Building a 10 foot wide Wooden Gate that WILL NOT SAG
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ม.ค. 2025
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Hardware used on this build:
(2) 856 Gate Caster (Stock # N192-217)
(2) 809 Lockable Cane Bolt (Stock # N109-002)
(4) 293BC Bolt Hook 3/4" x 10", Zinc Plated (Stock # N130-641)
(4) 294BC Hinge Straps 14", Zinc Plated (Stock # N130-799)
(1) 1138 Heavy Duty Automatic Gate Latch (Stock # N342-667)
(2) 852 Anti-Sag Gate Kits (Stock #N192-211)
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Nothing wrong with what you did. Love that you did half lap joints with glue. I don't think you needed to use 4x4s. Same thing could have been done with 2x4s. If built right, you also don't need the wheels. Hinge hardware is great, but maybe too much for five foot gates. (Not ten foot...) I tend to overbuild things, but this is overbuild even for me. Thanks for the good video.
Yes quite the Build, he even used Thors Hammer to knock in the Bolts. Lol.
lol nothing wrong with what he did , then gave him a long list of things you would do different.
That will surly hold up, great build.
this is exactly what i needed at the right time! thank you for sharing!
Great video!!! Thanks for sharing
Just one word. Simpson strong ties. Like the hinge hanger system and how it can be adjusted for plumb. Nice job. Thanks for the video!
That's 3 words. 😂
National Hardware, looks well made.
This video helped a tremendous amount! Thank you
Damn good video. A lot of help. Especially centering the hardware and joining the 4x4 frames
Nice job brother.
will these gates swing both ways using the hardware you used?
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How did you address covering up the hinges? I've got these hinges ready for a dual 5ft gate that needs to open out like yours does and I'm just racking my brain trying to figure out how to hang the pickets and everything look seamless 🤔🤔. Thanks in advance
Did you come up with a remedy for this problem? One of my concerns with this is having too big of a gap between the gate and the set fence.
Watching this. Id route them a slot in the frame.
great video and thanks for adding links, that hardware looks beefy enough but how come you decided to invert the top bolts, seems like they would help bear the weight but being inverted they don’t do much aside from letting it swing. I don’t mean to bash since it’s operational just curious. Thanks
Inverting the the top hinge prevents thieves from being able to remove the gate off the hinges to steal big items.
They aren't needed to bear the weight. Just prevent the gate from tilting. The outward tilting force at the top hinge is much larger than the weight of the gate.
what could you do to keep the the gates lined up in the middle, i noticed yours is about an inch or so out of line on the top and bottom?
After two years, how is it holding up against the wind and gravity?
Why Tightbond and not a construction adhesive ie pl300 or liquid nails?
Looks good. 4x4’s. That’s a lot of weight. How’s it hanging? And why is the top hinge post inverted?
I’ve seen other gate Hardware installed to where the the top is inverted. I’d assume that way it doesn’t ever slip off.
so an intruder cant just lift it off
it is inverted so some one ie thief can’t just lift the gate off and walk in the yard.
You should ad some flat “L” brackets in the corners. And some flat “T” brackets in the intersections. I did that on a outside door I built ten years ago and it’s still really solid
Where can I get that hardware?
I am looking for hinges with ball bearings, do they make them?
Most gates really don't need bearings they just unnecessarily complicate things. But if you want you can drop a set of thrust bearings on the pintle using the same set of hardware he used here. However I would recommend using an oilless thrust bushing, flowed by a smooth washer on top. Buy it the same size as your gate pentle. Like 5/8 in this example. It will cost $10 or less and you still get to use these awsome hinges
Not a 10’ gate. It’s two 5’ gates.
Nice job
You can use 2x4's to build a gate that won't sag.
Love the video I’m gonna do the same thing however I can’t seem to find the hardware , can you tell me what the website is, or can you go on Amazon couldn’t figure it out on national hardware? Ty
Definitely solid hardware! That gate isn’t going anywhere
dig this build, with there was a way to hide the ends, the less they see into my back yard the better.
Nonsuch thing as a wood frame and post gate that won't sag. Wood moves and decays. It gives to its own weight over time.
i just saw the support of the post wasnt good enough, maybe consiered rge same size of 4xx4. maybe use a bolt too. so everything is heavy duty...
While the 4x4 is heavy and overkill, that hardware is awesome. If the gate does sag, the bottom hinge can be easily adjusted. That is main take away from this video.
Hey bro I'm not trying to be picky I'm just trying to give you information that's actually called a carriage bolt not a lag bolt that you're using on the hinges. But good video keep up the good work.
thanks for recommending this hardware since I first saw your videos months ago I have since bought 6 of the 24” straps to build a 16’ gate and wanted to ask if the lag bolts/ carriage bolts you used for the straps, how long are those 3/6 bolts. Did you use 8” or 6inch”
Did you cement your posts and how deep were they?
That’s not 10’ wide?
4.05 can see the frame sagging already. Should have pulled the top and bottom horizontal frames half lap joints into the vertical frame, so each hoeizontal frame is gripped top and bottom. Much tighter, stronger join with minor sagging over a long lifespan.
Hi Dave. It sounds like you've seen something important here, but I just can't quite get it. Could you try to explain it a little differently? Thanks!
4x4s are overkill for a gate that size. If it won't sag, why would need the wheel?
If it “won’t sag” what are the casters for? How will you deal with the gaps and depth issues?
Gate casters? OMG. 4x width framing is the way for sure.
Good build nothing wrong apart from using making massively heavy 4x4's .Two factors that contributes to sagging 1weight 2 poor bracing but you got supporting wheels on it I should be OK. Well done still
The original gate was not built right from the beginning
It don’t make a lot of sense to use a heavy 4x4 frame if you’re going to put casters on it. You could have just put the casters on the existing 2x4 frame!
a thousand pound gate for no reason at all, like lowering a 4x4 drive 🤷
Well if you got free hardware to use as a demonstration why not use the extra support.
Right what’s the point of showing how much weight the hardware can hold if your putting casters on it. If the hardware is that strong which it sure looks like it is, why use Casters?
That 4x4 is over kill.. plus the problem wasn't that u used 2x4 for the first build the problem was that u didn't lock the end properly.. using L brackets on a gate in hopes of bracing it is a guaranty fail
The first gate could have been fixed up by running a steel wire between the two L brackets. Tighten the wire with a turnbuckle or by twisting until the gate is level.
I see no inks to the hardware.
Carriage bolts , not lags
Good vid, but the audio sucks.
That is a carriage bolt not a lag bolt. Get it right....🥴
You could have accomplished the same thing with the existing 2x4” frame lumber and it would have solved your problem for good.
Just because you used heavier lumber doesnt mean it wont sag. In fact the heavier lumber may end up making it sag, even with the cross brace.
I hope it works out for you but with todays price of lumber you could have done the same thing with the existing framing and added a cross brace and viola.
You’re probably right, but the reason I opted to go with 4x4s is because the previous frame had started to twist from the wind loads hitting it. One side leaned forward, the other backward because of the winds that push on it. So I wanted to try and prevent that from happening as well
Relax your a Star
Sadly you missed a trick for getting it all square, measure the diagonals, when both are the same it's square! But then some of us are time served carpenters as opposed to TH-cam jockeys....
Of course it won’t sag, there’s wheels on it
Well, you know what they say. The wheels on the bus go round and round
As soon as i saw the 4 by 4 i knew he was using wheels but I would have used wheels anyway since there is concrete
Woodglut plans are amazing!
Cant hear you talk but at least the saw blows out my speakers
Woodbex plans has a very large project base.
I prefer to build with Woodglut plans.
Nice job