Is Bacon actually bad for you?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ย. 2019
- A look at the claims that processed meat causes cancer.
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Link to Dr. Mark Miller's article on nitrites/nitrosamines - bit.ly/34vKge6
While I recommend you read the whole thing, Mark Miller (PhD in Pharmacology, previously fellow of American college of nutrition, 20 yrs exp as a medical professor) boils his article down like this:
"In short, dietary nitrate and nitrite do not provoke cancer via nitrosamines because they are:
• too stable
• the wrong charge
• must be converted to other reactive nitrogen species
• the rates that nitrate and nitrite are converted to nitric oxide can support cardiovascular functional optimization but are inadequate for nitrosamine formation, for the same reasons that endogenous production from either nNOS or eNOS do not support nitrosamine formation, and neither does saliva."
There is a rebuttal video titled 'What I've Learned' is Wrong about Bacon and Cancer.
Flaws with that video at a glance:
-While I did not mean to suggest “sodium nitrite added to bacon makes it good for the arteries” in my video, Mic does not present sufficient evidence to claim nitrate/nitrite from the plants is good whereas nitrite from bacon is bad. (Fun fact: 93% of the total ingestion of nitrite is derived from saliva)
-Skips over some very complicated science with ad hominem logic.
-Misinterprets me as saying ‘nitrosamines cannot be formed in the body,’ I didn’t say this.
-Confuses red meat with processed meat.
-Uses studies that are looking at “apparent total nitrosamines” rather than specific nitrosamines in meat. This is important because there are several types of nitrosamines with different severity of effects on the body.
-His data for endogenous formation of NDMA is based on in vitro studies looking not at red meat, but fish, and in specific, a type of fish that has the specific precursor to NDMA (DMA) in its muscle. Meat does not typically have this precursor. The study even found no NDMA formation from grilled meat.
-Mic confuses total endogenously formed NDMA with NDMA formed endogenously as the result of eating red meat/processed meat. (The study he references makes no mention of endogenous NDMA formation via meat consumption.)
Here is the full response: / 32265637
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Many of you asked about another video criticizing this one.
◼︎(Full response here: www.patreon.com/posts/32265637 ) Flaws with that video at a glance:
-Skips over some very complicated science presented by a Pharmacology & Physiology PhD with ad hominem logic.
-Misinterprets me as saying ‘nitrosamines cannot be formed in the body,’ I didn’t say this.
-Confuses red meat with processed meat.
-Uses studies that are looking at “apparent total nitrosamines” rather than specific nitrosamines in meat. This is important because there are several types of nitrosamines with different severity of effects on the body.
-His data for endogenous formation of NDMA is based on in vitro studies looking not at red meat, but fish, and in specific, a type of fish that has the specific precursor to NDMA (DMA) in its muscle. Meat does not typically have this precursor. The study even found no NDMA formation from grilled meat.
-He confuses "total endogenously formed NDMA" with "NDMA formed endogenously as the result of eating red meat/processed meat." (The study he references makes no mention of endogenous NDMA formation via meat consumption.)
-While I did not mean to suggest “sodium nitrite added to bacon makes it good for the arteries” in my video, he does not present sufficient evidence to claim nitrate/nitrite from the plants is good whereas nitrite from bacon is bad. (Fun fact: 93% of the total ingestion of nitrite is derived from saliva)
Please make a video debunking game changers
Sorry if I am rude but I was wondering what job do you have as a person in real life that drives you to be so passionate about so many subjects? Is it about the job or the amount of free time?
@@denismarmureanu3620 Actually feeling what it is like to be really healthy makes you feel passionate about everything related to it.
"Confuses red meat with processed meat" That's OK so did the WHO... smh
Helpful video and response. I've tried to give it up altogether, which is harder than I thought.
I've heard that people can actually die of depression and sadness, so I better not take bacon out of my diet.
Lol. Or Ice Cream
"Recent evidence suggests that vegetarian and vegan diets may increase the risk and symptoms of depression..."
I cure everything with Oreos!!@@chuckleezodiac24
LOL LOL LOL!👍
@@chuckleezodiac24 And it's due to the micronutrient deficiencies.
They should’ve known something’s up when someone cooks blackberries
I love me some blackberries. Did not know of this other due for them.
Blackberry jam?
@@candyflossy7549 what psychopath calls blackberry jam C O O K E D *B L A C K B E R R I E S* ?
@@candyflossy7549 you dont cook them for jam, you boil them. Its two different things...
@@teaja211 to boil something is to cook something, you're still treating the product with heat.
Gotta say, that husband is pretty cocky to try to poison his wife in a hospital.
Maybe she asked for it when she was slowly dying and changed her mind afterwards.
@@umairahmad2612 stop watching the conspiracy videos
@@umairahmad2612 you dont sound like a typical misogynist or anything lol
Oof these replies are radiating over-sensitive vibes.
she wasn't "his" to poison, but if you admire this maniac so much, feel free to go and suck him off in a prison.
All I've learned from all my dives in nutritional science and the history of its policies is that it's loaded with bullshit. I'mma just cook foods that've worked throughout history to get us here.
Yeah same
Amen
Yeah that's what I've done and I've never felt better.
Honestly bro just be balanced
Welcome to Africa.
This is only anecdotal, but every centenarian I've ever met (about 15) told me they ate bacon and eggs everyday for breakfast. Portion control matters, overall diet matters, vices matter, exercise, stress, all matter.
I eat pounds of red meat a day. I also try to limit my carb intake. I eat zero vegetables and zero fruits.
In fact, earlier today I had 7 pieces of chicken, 8 scrambled eggs, and about a pound of bacon.
Am I overweight? Would you even believe me if I said no? I have an athletic build.
Survivor bias. Educate yourself.
@@JosephQPublichow do you cook your lb of bacon? How much fat are you getting from that lb?
@@GonzoTehGreatYou can’t prove someone died from their diet unless they ate copious amounts of bacon ( which most people can’t do).
@@Baldbutstillhuman Survivor bias. Educate yourself.
I like how people are angry that he's defending processed meat despite the fact that he blatantly said it's not a good idea to eat processed meat repeatedly.
@@UntakenNick dislikes show otherwise
Vegans are mad at everything
Most bacon is not processed it is just cured pork
@@isopropyltoxicity The Amish and Mennenites use mostly natural, organic products if I'm not mistaken. They had some of the best butchers where I grew up.
Cris Bowman my neighbours are all Amish and Mennonite. You should visit a dollar store in Carroll, Tuscarawas, Stark or Holmes Counties, Ohio, sometime; Amish and Mennonites today live primarily on cheap processed sugars.
Whoa, I didn't knew the study on "red meat increases risk of cancer" was _that_ badly flawed. Makes me think whoever conducted it already had a result in mind before even starting.
Chrysippus I think there’s actually a few news articles mentioning some scientists ties to the food industry during some of these studies.
People are pushing for vegetarian diets and claim meat is not sustainable. More propaganda to push this agenda.
@@Youtibeviewer are the soy boys
The Compiler you shouldn’t be worried about exponential population growth but rather the opposite.
Rapid population decline. Think about it logically.
@Tuho French also eat all lot of steak.
I hope to see a video about saunas from you one day
Mate, what do you know about saunas, I use them , should I ????
@@osscar29 Sauna is great to use. It makes our body work hard to cool down but yet is not physically exhausting like running would be. Usually we have to physically work hard to sweat that much but not in the case of using a sauna
@Zoroaster do first sauna and after cold shower
@Zoroaster Ideally do both
*with you
:3
What I've learned from watching What I've Learned is that, sadly, most people actually don't learn anything.
They just comment what they already do and already believe.
@@cinnamongirl3070 If you really want to be really meta, what both of us did by commenting here is a true description for your claim as well.
It’s AMAZING video that initiated critical thinking in my head! It doesn’t suggest one way over another one, it’s wandering about statements in studies, compare, asking question, etc! All people criticizing this video don’t provide any sufficient evidence and data that support their claims! Guy is not probably a doctor, pharmacist or even biologist, actually it helps him to think out of box! He’s obviously very intelligent to be suspicious over all of these studies and way they are conducted! I watched most of his videos and he become my signature subscription!
That's what the main stream NEVER shows: how much you NEED to consume to have it affect you.
I work in a pharmacy and recently had to remove all medicine with ranitidine in it because they found out it contained the compound NDMA!
So gues who is really poisening you?!
@J G it s an H2 antagonist wich we use for people with stomach pain.
It makes me wonder how long that stuff has been in those pills because my clients are very worried that they have been taking it for years without knowing it!
Big pharma & Hospitals
bill gates
My Dad is 96 years old and ate bacon for breakfast about 4-5 times per week for most of his life. Still going strong!
Abd thousands of Americans die every year because of eating pigs. Your point ?
Also my grand grandparent has been an alcoholic, smoker and has eaten an only junk-food diet for about 70 years, he's now 105. Still going strong!
my dad did mushrooms once. he's 124 now and still going strong
my great great great grandad has been on a bacon and cigarette diet since he was 5, he’s 136 still going strong 🙌
Exactly!!
so... eat healthy foods, and if you like a hot dog now and then, go for it.
i like you
Making a video on a complex subject is one, Engaging the audience with beautiful "mystery" themed music and lovely visuals is another. You are standing tall my friend! keep up the good work!- Cheers from NZ.
Your videos are bloody amazing! I've done a number of CAT (Critically Appraised Topic) reviews during my undergraduate studies in healthcare. I understand how some studies are simply poorly made but I didn't know that the evidence around bacon was this shakey...
What you do is a service to humanity! Cheers mate!
I like the use of text passing through images. Nice work bud.
OTOH I found that part quite annoying.
Breaking News:
100% of people that have consumed food at some point in their lives, have died.
More at 11.
People that have NOT consumed food died too
The world currently holds 7 million living people, most of whom have consumed food and not died.
But I know what you were trying to say.
I have consumed food at some point in my life and I am alive as of this moment.
@@linuxgirl_ Actually, the current world population is about 7+ *billion,* not _million._
And the estimates for all humans born to this point is 108 billion.
Easily more than 90% of all humans ever born are now dead, and I'm quite certain that almost all of them ate something.
Did you know that Air is an extremely addictive substance? It it said that all people that even had one breath of air in their lives eventually died!
Greatest video! Thanks for going over all these papers and sharing in a really fun way!
Thank you so much for your research and sharing your knowledge! These videos are so important!
Thanks for another great video. I cant get enough of your stuff. Very glad you share your knowledge.
Depends on how much money the lobbyist payed the CDC
Excellent content and graphics, as usual. Always look forward to these WIL videos.
You're one of the best channels on TH-cam. The level of research required and the detail you incorporate is truly rare man. (Please) keep it up.
The production value of your videos is exceptional. Hats off to you sir
As always you are the best! thank you!
I have watched a number of videos on this subject and this is by far the most thorough explanation of risk associated with nitrosamines. Thank you for making it. BTW - all your videos are top notch.
mindblown by your video every time. Thank you for all the hard work man
Cool! I always appreciate your research and giving the newsreaders a reality check with some real honest perspective on what it all means.
My friends are always trying to give me NDMA
"It's just a prank bro"
Version 1 your friends are trying to kill you version 2 your friend offer you food version 3 you made an MDMA joke either way take my upvote
u mean MDMA lol
@J G I believe they call this type of scenario r/woosh on reddit P:
Never marry someone right after doing mdma with them.
Your videos are getting better each upload. Thank you for the awesome information.
Love your video editing :)
Thank you so much for all of your wonderful content man. I personally attribute your channel with saving my life man. You opened my eyes to the severe dangers of refined sugar, effects of calorie restriction diets vs. Complete diets, and amazing content regarding nutrition. Thanks to you, I found out about Dr. Jason Fung and expanded my nutritional education enough to have gone through extended water fasting, to intermittent fasting, to High Fat Low Carb, and finally when I made the transition to Keto. Making the changes in my life, I've lost around 135lbs, better understand my Celiac disease and severe food allergies, and am in the best health of my life. Dude, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO!!!
Google fiber menace that may help you with celiacs ( monatyrskis work)
As usual, a great informative video.
i sometimes watched the same video of yours more than one. esp. about IF and nutrition. very excited every time there's a new video up! :)
I love your videos man. Keep up the good work.
I have eaten bacon daily for years. This video is vindicating, thank you. I can send it to the bacon haters in my life so they can not watch it and not care.
A video on sedentarism would be very interesting
Vinícius Alexandre
There’s been studies after studies attempted but they could never get off of the ground (or the couch) with it all in order to get results.
Thank you for your work, sincerely, your video quality and scripts had been polished to superb quality. You really are the best for the best.
Excellent video, as always!
Dude, share the frank Tufano interview. We’re in it for health not peoples feelings
Which interview.
val a TH-camr that advocates an animal based diet
Frank is a hack who ignores evidence of the benefits of plants. Stopped watching him a year ago because he's a biased liar.
Solaris 32 yeah, i used to watch frank, too. he became sensational.
Blue North there are still people who dont, lol idiots
Dude, I owe you so much!
I learned more about healthy food & science from your channel, than from my medical university degree.
Thank you for the great video as always!
TOP video as always. Thanks for your videos and hard work you doing!!!
Thank you for putting in Homer's "More". Made my day.
I keep hearing MDMA lol
I'm ecstatic for this video.
Your brain keeps coming back to what you are most certain. It's a "security" bias
In Greece there's a saying: "The hungry man dreams of bread loaves" :P
same lol
Excellent video, thanks for posting it.
I love your content man! Always top notch quality and great topic choices! I'd love to hear what you can dig up on cold showers and saunas someday!
Still easily one of the best channels on TH-cam.
World Health Organization says that bacon is a Class 2 carcinogen yeah what the fuk do they know🙄
Best content there is on TH-cam. Thanks so much for your work man
Great job with this one :) Looking forward to the next video
I've had 3 packs of bacon this week... I'm dead 🤣 ☠️
😆 😆 😆
Can I haz your stuff?
I hope you do a video about non alcoholic fatty liver and Gout.
He already did.. Fatty liver caused by fructose
Yup... plants kill...
@@FirstLast-pp6xz ... plants w/o it's fiber, my friend. Cheers, from Argentina
@@yaPidaraz if you have high levels of choline you wont get fatty liver
@@prepty2569 yup, meat is what we need..fat..no plants..
Damn the quality of your video is amazing. Keep on posting !
Videos like these are really helpful. I've accidentally formed a vegetarian diet over the years causing low iron levels and after watching your video where it talked about iron and heme iron, i was debating on possibly eating some bacon some mornings again because i can't stand iron supplements and their side effects. Very informative!
Watching this while eating bacon.
thanks dude, there's so many lies out there on food subject and some with shady motivations. you make the world better.
I hope you realize one day that this channel is actually one of those with shady motivations and spreading lies.
Another superb documentary. Thank you.
so excited when i seen a notification from you
Just for some perspective, smoking increases your risk for lung cancer by 1000%.
But what percent of smokers get liking cancer?
hmmm ... i've eaten 2/3 slices of bacon almost every morning for breakfast since 1978.
never felt better.
Once again a great video, keep up the great work!
Really great video, I really enjoy your videos related to nutrition.
In Croatia we have homemade bacon, smoke dried and preserved with salt only.
Great video as usual!
Croatia must be heaven, nude dog friendly beaches, cannabis in the farmer's markets, and wonderful foods. I hope someday I can visit!
@@voluntaryismistheanswer
I'm not familiar with cannabis on farmers market but you should definitely visit Croatia!
Sounds divine!
So you raised the pig and slaughtered it yourself right?
@@SnarkyCommentary No
excellent content as always. Thank you very much compadre.
Another great informative video, thank you
Make a video on science of hair loss and hair regrowth.
04:02 what is those lettuces being dipped into / what is that called? :O
Probably some kind of batter to make tempura. I believe this guy lives (lived?) in Japan, hence the frequent snippets of Japanese convenience store products and other cultural references.
Thank you. This video was well thought out and presented in an unbiased fashion ... refreshing to listen to.
This channel is so great. So informative.
Kind of funny that it helps your health when your food is, ya know, food.
Welcome back!
Great information! Thank you.
awesome work mate, thanks ❤❤❤❤❤
Can you make a video on cigarettes? I feel like that would a very interesting one coming from you!!!
Um...they will kill you. Plus they make a person smell disgusting . What else does one need to know???
@@cinnamongirl3070 I think it would be Interesting to know the history and data behind it. A video from him about it might motivate people to quit even more. He's creative with his videos so cigarettes would be a cool video
I have lived on bacon being on the keto diet, the only side effect I've had was weight loss and an increase of energy, but I was eating organic bacon to ovoid glyphosate which is the real killer.
What brand do you eat
I'm sorry for your losses and side effects.
Thanks for all the good info.
This is one balanced, level-headed and realistic presentation. Thank you so much for the time and effort put in 👍🏼
That thing about a glass wine in a week being good for you got debunked a long while ago.
The key to life is everything in moderation and don't piss off your spouse! :)
Or don't have a spouse 😎
not by choice.
An excellent video. Well done as usual.
Thank you as always for being a voice of reason.
9:16 dude, I have seen a lot of Carnivore followers eating more than 1.1kg of meat everyday, and they are not 70kg, they're about 50 to 60kg only.
1.1kg of processed meat?
@@A.Martin
Bacon and eggs sausage for breakfast everyday. a cheeseburger patty for lunch and a roaster steak for dinner.
@@dankuchar6821 Notice something. He's eating the lesser processed meats
This is a great video and exactly what I've been telling people.
Love your vids. You always do such great job on them. That and I like that your from my state of TX.
A lot of information and above all, common sense in your videos...thank you!
Egg, avocado, bacon, that's a keto breakfast, after doing keto for months i can say ive never been healthier in my life. The culprit of all bad things are dairy and processed carbs and sugars such as breads, cake, candy, boxed cereals, desserts, etc.
As usual the studies tell us to believe what they want us to believe. It's so important not to take things at face value nowadays, there is usually some kind of corporate agenda behind them
Yeah, that's shockingly true.
@Zoroaster That's why he said usually :)
@@harrynac6017 Exactly what i was going to say👌
If it's a well known publication and the sources are legit, you can usually trust a study.
@@gabitzakissy Lol What a sheep.. Those studies are the most biased because there is big corporate money pushing them..... The more "no name" a study is, counter intuitively, the more legit it is...
Great video! Love the content!!!
Great video content. Thank you
meat is the most healthy food there is.
*BACON GOOD*
Raw Bacon eat it raw👍
Can't wait for your next video!
Just wanted to sat that your videos are highly educational and supeer interesting , just awesoome stuff man !
Dr. Ken Berry has a great video about nitrates. Pretty much the same conclusion.
"Bacon may kill you"
Guess I'll die~
Videos awesome as always 👍🏿
I’ve wanted this exact video from you, thanks so much! I’ve cut down to just eating bacon as my processed meat recently, it makes me feel better about my nitrate intake even if it’s not as risky as I first thought. I didn’t need to eat all those slim jim’s and beef jerky anyway. I want all my food to need to be cooked, require refrigeration, or stay stable for a few days without processing. No boxed/bagged foods that last months at room temperature.
Bacon is hardly proccessed meat.. It's killed... And dumped into salt to cure... Hardly proccessed and one of the least proccessed foods around