What happens if you leave an OLED Nintendo Switch on for 2 years straight?

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  • @RobotacularRoBob
    @RobotacularRoBob 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5797

    For Bob’s next experiment, he should use a negative reverse of the same image to see if the issue fixes itself.

    • @frestylezz
      @frestylezz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1048

      It will, that's how "OLED restoration" software works.
      OLED degradation is basically the individual subpixels wearing out. If you do the reverse, you will wear out the other subpixels. if you do that to the same level, you will end up with a "fixed" screen, albeit dimmer than when new, but no more burn-in.

    • @AldoInza
      @AldoInza 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +265

      Ten years later:
      So now I am going to spend a year to burn in the reverse of that Mr. Roger meme after we discovered his dark secret. I can still play the third Zelda BOTW trilogy game, and I forget the lizards took over the planet while I play. This video is sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends.

    • @manolo1039
      @manolo1039 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

      that's actually a technique used by some phone brands, IIRC, some samsung phones have the option to literally burn the rest of the screen, so the spots of it are "gone"

    • @NataSenpai
      @NataSenpai 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Indeed, now the restoration experiment to see what steps to fix said intended issue to be resolved even the tiniest hint of burn in what could one do to restore the screen. ❤

    • @joejoe2658
      @joejoe2658 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      na, a Palestinian should do that test.

  • @Hundo_Mo
    @Hundo_Mo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +407

    I hope that Bob has this in his office 10 years from now, still plugged in and running. Even if we are deep in to another console generation

    • @Drelochz
      @Drelochz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      im pretty sure there was a 1-2 week period where he had to stop the experiment when he moved to this office initially

  • @triforce2022
    @triforce2022 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1112

    I have to say, over the last two years that this has been going on, I admit defeat. I honestly thought that this would be much worse. At 18,000 hours, even gaming at 5 hours every single day, your switch would last nearly 9 years, and at that point, there is probably more wrong with your switch other than just the display.

    • @crd7876
      @crd7876 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      Yah my LG CX 55 has been my monitor for 3 years, over 30,000 hours with no burn in, check RTings current test videos, LG panels just keep rolling while Sony and Samsung panels burn in or die. As well I should note that at my job we have around 50 burnt in LCDs, it can happen to any panel that gets hot, and the burn in on those is not only persistent but glaringly obvious in all scenarios

    • @ei..
      @ei.. 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

      Also remember that this was with a static image. You most likely wouldn't even notice any burnin after 18000 hours if you play different games with different huds

    • @0Synergy
      @0Synergy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@crd7876 I have the G9 OLED which is using a newer Samsung display, I am pretty curious to see how long it will last I am a pretty avid PC gamer to.

    • @Vriess123
      @Vriess123 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Yeah this is not going to happen to a normal switch OLED, this was purposely made to kill the display and still took 2 years constantly on

    • @Valoric
      @Valoric 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      9 years at max brightness, staring at the same screen every single day doing nothing. At dynamic brightness in a normal room it'll probably last as long as the LED start breaking down from oxygen before usage becomes the main factor. Colour me impressed. Never thought OLED would get this good.

  • @AlpineTheHusky
    @AlpineTheHusky 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +812

    A pretty unknown fact about nintendo is their battery care. They take VERY WELL care of the batteries in the sense of never charging it too far and turning it off before the battery goes too low. This is also why the charging takes so long. My DSI XL has had multiple thousands of hours on it off of the battery and I tested the battery with a charger tester and it is ABOVE THE RATED mAH RATING (most cells are rated in minimum and not nominal capacity). Nintendo makes robust devices

    • @genderender
      @genderender 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +104

      and their ratings for battery life are shockingly accurate. when BOTW came out, i had it on wii u and made a test to play with a fully charged wii u pro controller (80 hours rated). it straight up lasted about 75-78 hours before the low battery light turned on. same with 3ds and switch battery life, never went outside the rated ranges on those consoles

    • @TurboPikachu
      @TurboPikachu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

      I am blown away at how long my Switch from late 2017 is lasting between charges 6 years down the line. None of my other smart devices (like my iPhones, Apple Watches, AirPods, etc) have ever kept even 90% of their battery life after their first year

    • @cf3661
      @cf3661 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      @@TurboPikachuexactly, my iPhone is a little over year old and has 84% battery life 🤦‍♂️

    • @enzog1078
      @enzog1078 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cf3661mine is 2 years old and 86 percent.

    • @f3ryx
      @f3ryx 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nintendo publicly recognized the switch will brick itself if you don’t charge it regularly. Nintendo makes shit devices and you are just too ignorant to realize it.

  • @vinc4886
    @vinc4886 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +186

    I think for battery the battery life test, another thing to account for is that your personal switch plays games most of the time it's on, where the burn in switch is constantly on the photo album, not really doing any intense processing. Might affect how the battery works, but at this point you've also proven that none of this really makes a difference. Good job!

    • @antoinepersonnel6509
      @antoinepersonnel6509 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Doesn't make a difference that much, stressing a battery at 90+% is extremely damaging, same as under 10-20%, it's where the ios drag the most toward - or + and where chemicals damage, the task doesn't matter that much.
      But I suspect that it may be possible that because it's the photo app, the switch turn off charging at 100% and wait till it goes to 99 to put current again on the battery, but this 24/24 2 years straight would still have fried the battery.

    • @HydreigonLillipup
      @HydreigonLillipup 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@antoinepersonnel6509 Or, the most likely case, the switch doesn't use the battery at all when plugged in, bypassing it. It keeps the battery topped up, but that would only be from power decay over time, not use. And while 80% is the golden spot for lithium battery longevity, keeping it full is a lot better than it being drained, especially completely for extended periods of time (like he mentioned having the switch in his backpack).
      My assumption is this burn-in switch has actually been healthier for the battery than standard use. Obviously not by a lot, 20 min isn't a huge percentage difference, but does likely go to show docked play preserves the battery by not using it at all.
      Edit: also about the 90%+ thing, modern batteries don't allow the charge to their true maximum capacity to avoid this. We don't know where the switch puts its limit, maybe 95% maybe 90% maybe 85%, and then makes that the maximum, the switches 100%. Phones do this too, charging your phone to 100% isn't actually fully filling the battery. On the flipside, that below 20% mark is getting hit by the standard use switch, especially if he leaves it dead in his backpack for days.

    • @TheFeriner
      @TheFeriner 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The point about bypassing the battery when it’s full is probably correct enough, but I will add in that powering an OLED screen is a pretty significant battery drain. For smartphones it’s pretty common that just having the screen on is one of the most significant ways to drain battery. Of course playing a game is also a very demanding task but even when doing nothing, just keeping all those pixels lit up is no small task

  • @chud2070
    @chud2070 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1969

    Holy crap! I remember when you started this test and it does not feel like it has been 2 years. Time flies. This has been a fun and interesting experiment to watch.

    • @duh5359
      @duh5359 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      2 year.... It cant be that long already....

    • @Burning_Typhoon
      @Burning_Typhoon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      I gotta admit. I feel the same... I feel like the last video was about 4-5 months ago.

    • @anxivty
      @anxivty 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@Burning_Typhoon everything since then feels like a blur

    • @vuxl
      @vuxl 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      same I remember the first video and it’s already the second year??

    • @sandgaijin
      @sandgaijin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I wonder what that electric bill was like

  • @speedyink
    @speedyink 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +171

    When I got my OLED switch at launch I had the same thought. Was so careful about not leaving static things on the screen, or not to play the same game for too long. Needless to say...I no longer do any of this. This was an eye opener test for sure

    • @jadedfire4351
      @jadedfire4351 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hahahah fr so glad to have never had any burn in issues

    • @funnyduck4568
      @funnyduck4568 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would still make sure I doing just leave the screen on when not using but yeah it’s nice not having to worry

  • @joehoffart9539
    @joehoffart9539 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +218

    This has become my favorite mini series on YT. I hope it continues for years to come.

  • @nastynom3309
    @nastynom3309 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    The update we’ve actually been waiting for

  • @minecrafter3448
    @minecrafter3448 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Assuming you’ve spent that entire time on that one scene of breath of the wild, you have now officially kept Zelda waiting another hundred years

  • @Enum_Dev
    @Enum_Dev 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    Thanks for this video. I regularly let me switch stay on for 2 years straight and this has been a major issue. I hope Nintendo does something to fix this😢

  • @Coffee_dragon16
    @Coffee_dragon16 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +87

    Let's take a moment for the GOAT that is the Switch OLED that stayed on for 2 years straight and is still fighting

    • @blales
      @blales 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Poor link having to stand there for so long

    • @spookyweeb5563
      @spookyweeb5563 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nothing unique about this one, realistically you could assume that the majority can do this.

  • @Shendowx
    @Shendowx 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    This just reminds me of how a lot of people told me not to buy a OLED TV, had two 4k tv's, one I had during the Switch release and the other was during PS4 Pro release.
    Neither one of them got burned in, because what most people don't seem to realize the TVs and other devices usually have a way to stop burning not to mention you're not going to be constantly leave it on.

  • @kninezbanks
    @kninezbanks 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The burned in switch outlasted your personal switch due to battery wear. Your personal switch has been charged and discharged at least a hundred times, which degrades the battery over time. The burned in switch lasted 5 hours 14 minutes...which is 314 minutes, while your personal switch lasted 4 hours 54 minutes...which is 294 minutes. If you do the math 294/314 = 93.6% or your personal switch has 6.4% battery wear.....which sounds about right......assuming the burned in switch is at exactly 100% (Highly unlikely).........Overall, leaving your battery at 100% for two years isn't great for your battery, but still not as bad as discharging and charging it up again hundreds of times.
    Maybe Nintendo has an internal safety feature which drains the battery by a bit to 80 to 90%, while displaying 100% in the battery indicator without telling you after it detects it has been plugged in at 100% for a couple of weeks/months.....as a safeguard since it stays at 100% when docked for many gamers who play on TV mode only.
    I would love a test where you leave your switch docked for 3 months at 100%, unplug it and do a drain test........then charge it back up again and drain again....if the initial charge is lower then it might confirm my hunch.
    My gaming laptop has a feature that allows you to limit the battery to as low as 606%.....so my laptop has been plugged in for months stuck at 60%. Every device needs this feature.

  • @sinom
    @sinom 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    Most Android phones have had oled phones for many years before iPhones ever got them. These very early oled screens (or technically AMOLED) from 15+ years ago are also where a lot of the burn in panic came from

    • @D1cksontello
      @D1cksontello 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yeah the Vita was a great example. I still have mine somewhere and when the screen goes black there is some blobs stuck on screen from the original person who sold it to me.

    • @salaniorgaan2296
      @salaniorgaan2296 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@D1cksontelloI have that same problem too with mine.
      It's not noticeable tho during gameplay.

    • @SoukaDeezNutz
      @SoukaDeezNutz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I burned the TH-cam App on my PlayStation Vita. Yeah those old OLED screens suck.

    • @RedAugust08
      @RedAugust08 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was looking for this comment!
      Not to mention Android devices just kept pushing OLED displays all those years and that that's why the technology is so good now. Apple had to wait until Android device manufacturers made OLED good. That's why they are confident. They didn't do it themselves. 😂

    • @salaniorgaan2296
      @salaniorgaan2296 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RedAugust08 Wonder how many years it'll take before Apple adopts the foldable phone "gimmick".
      Probably not that long, because they were confident enough to get into VR with their Vision Pro.

  • @kendb3
    @kendb3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Thanks for keeping the experiment going this long!

  • @iThinkergoiMac
    @iThinkergoiMac 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    It’s worth noting that the iPhone clock turns off after a few seconds, it doesn’t stay on all night!
    Also, the sub-pixels in an OLED display don’t face individual lights, they ARE the individual lights. OLED screens don’t have a backlight, the pixels are the lights. It’s a small, but important distinction.

    • @firestar4430
      @firestar4430 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have an android, but I'm pretty sure the newer pro iPhones (the ones with LTPO displays) leave the clock on screen 24/7.

    • @iThinkergoiMac
      @iThinkergoiMac 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@firestar4430 It’s possible. I have the 13 Pro, and the always on display was introduced on the 14. The clock could be on all night, but if that’s the case I would be annoyed at the light.

    • @halami2149
      @halami2149 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      On the 14 pro and newer, the ones that have always on display, it will stay on, but not forever. It has an auto turn off that turns off the screen when it’s dark and the phone isn’t being used, aka when you’re asleep. It can tell when you’re not going to be looking at it. It will also detect for slight motion, which wakes up the screen

    • @christophervanzetta
      @christophervanzetta 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@firestar4430Android has had that feature for over 5 years and no one complained 🤷‍♂️
      I like apples approach. Let android users be the beta testers then implement the features if it goes well

    • @firestar4430
      @firestar4430 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@christophervanzetta this wasn't an apple vs android comment, just an observation. I follow both platforms to see what they're up to and pick whichever one I like more at the time. I have an iPad, a windows desktop, and a macbook. Just prefer android on the phone side at the moment. Always on display was a good addition, I'm glad they finally added it (even if my wife turned it off the second she got her phone lol).

  • @JaysonKing69
    @JaysonKing69 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thank you for conducting this experiment and making this video. Yes it may seem mundane and boring to most people but for those of us who have had legitimate concerns with OLED burn-in, potential battery life being negatively impacted by leaving the Switch on the charging dock 24/7 and putting my travel Switch OLED in a bag and forgetting about it for months at a time, thus killing the battery... It's comforting to know that the OLED Switch is remarkably robust and thanks to your effort and dedication to this experiment, we can rest easy knowing that we can use this monumental console without having to worry about such things. In life, we already have so much more to worry about so it's refreshing to know that after this much-needed experiment can put our minds at ease so we can play the Switch however and whenever we want... just how Nintendo intended. Love your channel! I recommend it to all of my nerd friends. Keep up the great work!

  • @DM-jk4cp
    @DM-jk4cp 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Most modern portable devices have a circuit that will draw power from the charger before drawing power from the battery. Since the Switch was left plugged in, it probably has very few charge cycles.

  • @TimmyJoePCTech
    @TimmyJoePCTech 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My wife has had several pixels, Pixel 3 XL, Pixel 6 Pro and now she's on to the Pixel 8 Pro. Both the 3 and the 6 had way more than acceptable burn in for the TikTok main screen buttons when you put up a white screen when she was done with them. I would imagine she's using Tiktok about as much as every other girl so I can't believe how bad it can get over 2 years of usage.

  • @esdigital5259
    @esdigital5259 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Video ended around the 6 min mark

  • @TheGamingDooDoo
    @TheGamingDooDoo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    Would like to think that the battery did not take that much of a beating due to the console only displaying a picture, and not drawing-recharging the battery in a fast rate (basically no workload besides the OLED screen). My hypothesis would be that the battery performance would be vastly different if you were running a game for the entire 18,000 hours.
    P.S. kindly correct me about this theory if I'm wrong.

    • @raizino740
      @raizino740 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Rudely corrects you

    • @TheGamingDooDoo
      @TheGamingDooDoo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@raizino740 *goes full-on Karen mode*

    • @PampersRockaer
      @PampersRockaer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I think running an actual game should not change the battery usage, since it does use the charger directly in the case and not drain the battery while being charged at the same time.
      If he would use a timed wall plug that connects/disconnected the switch every 4 hours or so, then the battery would be probably dead by now.

    • @MrLinkDay
      @MrLinkDay 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I guess the batery would use more power to run a game, but not strain it more, like the cpu or gpu maybe would.

    • @ryan20028
      @ryan20028 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When no screen updates are occuring the system isnt really using much for resources. Just storing an image in memory.

  • @eduardotepoxteca9171
    @eduardotepoxteca9171 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Hey guys , this also applies for TV's. I was hesitant to buy an OLED tv since burning but as some one who uses it for games and movies about 2 hrs a day you need nothing to worry about .
    Also OLED are the best and totally worth the inversion if you are a fan of multimedia content 😊

  • @toyotaae86trueno
    @toyotaae86trueno 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Me : hears "burn-in"
    My brain : CRT SCREEN

  • @finestcustard5647
    @finestcustard5647 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Your test on the heat is pretty awesome. If you can you should try putting the switch in a deep freeze or something and test how it operates and its battery life. Living in Canada I always worry about my switches battery life during the winter

    • @RAHelllord
      @RAHelllord 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Low temperatures are usually not a big problem for electronic devices as long as you don't turn it on before it reaches room temperature. If you leave it in the car overnight while it drops to -20c just put it into a dry and warm room and let it acclimate for about 6 hours to ensure it's warm enough and that any potential condensation has gone away.
      If your switch is at risk of being in such low temperatures it might also be prudent to ensure it's turned off fully instead of just being put to sleep.

    • @AkaSora96
      @AkaSora96 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      High temperatures are worse for battery's than low temperatures

  • @Arv.o
    @Arv.o 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "sleep deprived switch cant hurt you, its not real"
    sleep deprived nintendo switch:

  • @THEpicND
    @THEpicND 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

    this is the level of Nintendo quality control that we were used to, good to see that they are back to where they were after the joycon debacle

    • @GreekoCanuck
      @GreekoCanuck 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Im not convince that Joycons were an only NIntendo thing. Many controllers, including PS5s has had Joycon issues. Maybe what everyone uses for the joysticks are just problematic.?

    • @THEpicND
      @THEpicND 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      @@GreekoCanuck I’ll agree with you that most modern joysticks are bad, but joycons were the worst, I went through 3 pairs when I barely use them. I’ve had 1 modern xbox series controller that got drift and I use it much more frequently and aggressively

    • @genderender
      @genderender 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@THEpicND small device means less robust. Low floor on quality in the industry is gonna make it more apparent

    • @snowpeagaming9116
      @snowpeagaming9116 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@GreekoCanuckModern joysticks have been proven to just suck, mostly due to parts wearing down quickly. Nintendo got a lot of flac for it tho because the sticks used on the joycons were even worse than what you already find on most controllers, which i imagine is largely in part bc they’re much smaller and this more tightly packed & fragile

    • @CengoDevrosu
      @CengoDevrosu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@GreekoCanuckNever had problems with any other controllers. Always those cheap produced joy cons.

  • @MrKinein
    @MrKinein 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think battery longevity wasn't much weared out because it was plugged to a wall all the time. It allows power to bypass the battery all together and deliver electricity straight from a power plug. So the battery was unused whole time

    • @joemamr710
      @joemamr710 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No, lithium ion batteries degrade the fastest at 100% and less than 20%.
      Just existing, doing nothing, whether powered on or off, at 100% causes damage to lithium ion batteries.
      The reason the switch didn’t degrade that much is because it probably internally limits the battery to 90% or so.
      Most devices don’t do that because it would mean an hour or two less of battery life.
      The most optimum use case for a lithium ion battery is to keep it between 40% and 60% at all times, which is what hybrid cars do, for example. If you kept a lithium ion battery between 40 and 60 percent at all times it would last 10x as many years as if you run below and above that.
      Check out batteryuniversity if you want to learn real things about different kinds of batteries.

    • @MrKinein
      @MrKinein 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@joemamr710Thanks for the information. And what is more damaging for the battery - staying at 100% or recharge cycle?

    • @joemamr710
      @joemamr710 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MrKinein That is an excellent and complicated question! The answer is…. It depends. For the switch in particular cycles are more damaging because they artificially set “100%” at around 90%. But you remember the Samsung galaxy catching on fire issue? That’s because they set 100% at exactly 100%, so the batteries became heavily damaged through normal charging and could even catch fire from the chemical damage of remaining at 100%.

    • @MrKinein
      @MrKinein 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@joemamr710 thanks for the info!

  • @GeoffreySorensen
    @GeoffreySorensen 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    I feel kind of satisfied finally seeing the burn in. And it's also nice to know that it takes a long time of the exact same imagine staying on the screen for anything to happen. OLED seems to be fine!

  • @ImCooler10
    @ImCooler10 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can it survive being blown up with a nuclear bomb

  • @obsidiryn
    @obsidiryn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    can't believe its been two years since the oled came out 12:04 perspective makes me feel better about having to possibly buy the oled version if the switch 2 doesn't meet expectations or is just overall ridiculously bad lol thank you bob!

  • @FelixEA
    @FelixEA 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i like the idea of a dog being a phone. Not any of its implications, but just the cartoonish idea of it

  • @ferna182
    @ferna182 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    the battery thing actually makes sense. the burned switch was on power supply the whole time, the battery didn't go through any cycles. Your "daily" switch did so it is very much possible that the burned switch has battery in better state than the used one.

    • @Napfkuchen
      @Napfkuchen 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Exactly this. Its funny how many people are impressed but seem to have no idea how a battery works. ^^
      These 2 years of almost stable voltage and no recharge cycles were actually like a wellness healthcare for the battery.

    • @ferna182
      @ferna182 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Napfkuchen yeah I don't understand why people think that the battery is "constantly being charged" when it obviously isn't. it has built in circuitry specifically made to cut power to the battery once it's full.

  • @NightSprinter
    @NightSprinter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    THANK YOU, BOB!! Someone else also recognizes it as burn-OUT.

  • @TheLuckster
    @TheLuckster 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    this series has proved that time moves by too fast, I remember when Bob started this test

  • @sahildongre4242
    @sahildongre4242 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    4:07 Honkai Star Rail players know how legendary that date is

  • @YourWishes
    @YourWishes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    If you're feeling adventurous Bob, disassemble and see if the battery is bloating/pillowing at all, and see if there's any dust in the fan vents.

  • @Movie_Games
    @Movie_Games 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    People overreact about burn in. I've been using my LG CX as a computer monitor for a few years. There's burn in from overwatch, marvel snap, chrome, etc etc but I can only see it if I make the entire screen red and I look carefully.

  • @DaveSimonH
    @DaveSimonH 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I regularly get some temporary image retention on my laptop (with word docs or other white pages), which has a LCD screen. Same with one of my old tablets. But it always fades after a short while.
    The only OLED I've put a significant amount of hours into is the PS Vita, and it has no obvious signs of burn in (or temp image retention).

  • @lucasbotingnon8458
    @lucasbotingnon8458 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    omg its been 2 years already???

  • @HiCZoK
    @HiCZoK 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    7000 hours on my lg c1 tv. Still looks brand new

    • @hurgcat
      @hurgcat 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have a lg c2 and I fucking love it

  • @misspotato813
    @misspotato813 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The charging circuit for most devices nowadays will stop charging the battery once it reaches a threshold. Effectively solving the problem of overcharging the battery. When this happens the power being dumped into the switch from the charger is only as much is needed to do the tasks.

  • @IceBlueLugia
    @IceBlueLugia 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The original video was the first video of yours I ever watched; introduced me to the idea of watching countless videos of products I’ll probably never buy, even on other channels lol

  • @samanthagriffinv2.08
    @samanthagriffinv2.08 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Usually with electronics like that there’s smart circuitry to protect the lithium ion battery from over charge and over discharge in English once the battery is fully charged it’ll run from the wall power only until it’s unplugged

  • @ricardopinho630
    @ricardopinho630 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    When fully charged the power bypasses the battery. So the 2 year experiment switch hasn't used the battery almost at all

  • @BarrickMacready
    @BarrickMacready 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    12:59 best ad for nintendo switch 10/10
    Thank you for the 2 year update. i just got an OLED switch for my son and remembered your previous videos

  • @jesleehdz
    @jesleehdz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Most I’ve had with burn-in with on my iPhone is some light screen retention that you can only really see in dim settings. After iOS 17.1 even that went away. Great vid.

    • @ironshadowy
      @ironshadowy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      yeah that was a software bug. suprising that was

  • @matthewrease2376
    @matthewrease2376 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    10:50 if I were to wager a guess, your personal Switch goes through a lot when you play it (battery, CPU, and GPU intensive games), whereas the burn unit is almost never doing anything more advanced than displaying a static image.

  • @vhfgamer
    @vhfgamer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Without a shadow of a doubt. The two least used features on my switch are...
    The screen
    The battery
    I wanted a Nintendo home console, and I got it.

  • @AndersHass
    @AndersHass 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    11:30 The Switch is build for specific USB power delivery charging rate, so they would have to change it to make it work with higher charging speeds if they wanted it to have higher charging speeds. It might not be simple to change it since the charging is probably built into the SoC and not a dedicated chip that can be changed.

  • @yo.adrian
    @yo.adrian 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Wow, Nintendo released the OLED Switch two years ago?! Where did the time go?

  • @Apollo-iq1vx
    @Apollo-iq1vx 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have a 4-year old LG OLED phone that has mild burn-in. Took like 2 years to initally notice it.
    The rapid and severe burn-in is more of a problem with older OLEDs, like the PS Vita's OLED.
    In the future, MicroLED will have the benifits of OLED with the decades-long lifespan of LCDs. But until then OLED seems to be doing fine.

  • @DllGray
    @DllGray 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I've worked at a local tech store for a bit over a year and we worked with iphones a lot, also refurbished models. I gotta say that I've barely seen any burn in on any of the displays. I've seen it on 1 iphone Xs and one iphone X so I think it would be most likely to happen on the older models. Kinda insane to think how far oled has come

  • @TeamLinux01
    @TeamLinux01 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If I had to take a guess, Nintendo did the very smart thing with bypassing the battery when fully charged and docked and only charging when the battery falls under a certain threshold.
    If that is true, then even though it is on and "charging", it isn't actually draining or charging the battery, so the cycling of the battery isn't happening as much as your switch that you play with all the time.
    I leave my original switch turned on and in the dock all the time and I feel like the battery has only lost 5-10% after 5 years.

  • @justin07820
    @justin07820 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    If you can come up with some type of contraption to remove and reattach the joy cons I’d be very interested to see how many times before significant wear is formed. My switch is coming up on 7 years old and the right side just doesn’t want to stay connected while attached.

  • @thereal_doubleu
    @thereal_doubleu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My iphone 13 pro max actually does have burn in, only noticeable when im in a dark room and the screen is on showing something dark

  • @wolfiemuse
    @wolfiemuse 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I love that you’ve kept the “YA HUNGRY?!?” joke going, please never stop lol. If they offer you a personalized Wulff Den code, for the love of god don’t take it. 😂😂

  • @capy9846
    @capy9846 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1:50 I have youtube burned into my screen on my older apple device-

  • @takrak
    @takrak 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think I know why the battery was better on the burned in switch, it was constantly using power, so it wasn’t overcharging to the same degree, but still that’s pretty insane

  • @AnoshterHaar
    @AnoshterHaar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Everyone is going on about the battery not being used that much due to low performamce tasks. But to me it seems more likely that the battery just stayed in a healthy spot.
    Nintendo is very cautious with their battery management. Correct me if I'm wrong. But battery life these days relies on charge cycles. The battery is full and then runs empty, then cycles back up when charging. By keeping the battery plugged in you avoid the battery going trough entire charge cycles. Which in my eyes saves the battery state a lot.
    By keeping the battery in a safe, unstressed and happy place (thx to nintendo battery management), not overcharging or letting it run below 30% (which causes stress as well). You basically don't stress the battery at all.
    Again this is my theory. Love to be corrected or confirmed ;)

  • @therizinosaurus214
    @therizinosaurus214 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It is impressive that it has taken this amount of time to have such severe burn in

  • @user-of8zc1gj2s
    @user-of8zc1gj2s 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bob yelling YAHUNGRY is one of my favorite parts of these videos 😂 I love the work you do, keep taking care of yourself!

  • @wolfiemuse
    @wolfiemuse 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Bob, I know that basically all you did with this thing was do some slightly annoying setup to get this thing to stay on forever and then just sat it down for months at a time, but I still want to thank you. This is a good service that you’ve provided to the world by sacrificing your own property to prove a common myth wrong. Thank you.

  • @Kng__Wzrd
    @Kng__Wzrd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It’s been 17 min, could you make a video about the burn in switch. I have faith it been different now

  • @victoriascholl4607
    @victoriascholl4607 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This made me happy - I bought my first Switch, an Oled, this year in March. I have been wanting to play the two new Fire Emblem games. It's nice to know my new toy is a bit tougher than I thought. Thanks.

    • @21backwards78
      @21backwards78 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I bought mine in march too! I love it

  • @kylebrandon4556
    @kylebrandon4556 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I didn't think that would happen. Thought a whole lot worst was gonna happen

  • @jeffrobertson8977
    @jeffrobertson8977 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Awesome info. A quick battery tip. Lithium batteries don't handle being fully discharged for any length of time. Just about any other scenario is fine but leaving a battery dead for any length of time will kill it. I've lost every smart watch I've owned by leaving them with dead batteries for modest lengths of time.

  • @SkofE33
    @SkofE33 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Me: Oh, I like those game cube style joy-cons!
    Bob: I think they're pretty stupid.

  • @fluffybunnybadass
    @fluffybunnybadass 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Very happy to hear about this update. I wasn't ever concerned about burn-in for my oled, but I love to hear about it being a beast, considering I only upgraded because my previous one bricked after 3 years. :D
    I wonder how long it'll take before the screen is completely useless at this rate?

  • @phil7121
    @phil7121 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i can't believe the battery isn't bursting at the seams by now... that's pretty insane

    • @Napfkuchen
      @Napfkuchen 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its not insane, its how a lithium battery works. These 2 years it never went through a charge-cycle at all.

  • @heyspookyboogie644
    @heyspookyboogie644 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    The switch seems like the least susceptible sort of device to get burn in from normal use purely by the nature of what it is. It doesn’t have status symbols showing 24/7 like a phone. So it’s really good info for a switch, but not necessarily for OLED panels in general.

    • @amputatedhairstrands
      @amputatedhairstrands 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      not really. most games have static huds and if it is, for example, a multiplayer game that you can sink hundreds or thousands of hours in, it definitely could burn the UI in
      of course under normal conditions it's unlikely for noticeable burn in to happen, but i wouldn't say gaming devices are the least susceptible to burn in because games all have very persistent ui elements

    • @alexh7513
      @alexh7513 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It‘s a much cheaper oled screen than on most phones. So it shows that oled burn in isn‘t a problem anymore. The oled technology today is much better than 5 years ago.

    • @pres002
      @pres002 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's the same oled tech..... Bro doesn't know anything

    • @genderender
      @genderender 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      phones get around the issue by simply not giving a shit that pixels degrade. iphones will run pixels at a specific brightness regardless of how degraded they are, there's no other burn-in prevention methods built in
      as well, static images aren't directly what cause burn-in, burn-in is a bad term from the CRT days (when it was literal). The more a OLED pixel gets used the more it degrades, this means *any* content will degrade the image over 2 years not a static one. a proper comparison is this old switch to a new one

    • @RAHelllord
      @RAHelllord 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@genderenderOf course OLED burn in happens with any use but it happens faster the higher current, and thus brightness, of the individual sub pixel is. That's why the burn can be visible as shapes on the screen instead of the entire screen becoming uniformly dimmer over time. Our eyes also are more sensitive to luminosity changes in high contrast areas so shapes with sharp edges will stick out even more.
      To top it all off different colored subpixels require different power levels for the same perceived brightness. Iirc blue takes the lowest amount of power and red the most, meaning red pixels will always burn in the fastest and blue the slowest, making anything that's a bright red a perfect candidate for noticeable burn in.

  • @WeavePap
    @WeavePap 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hope that after like 10 years Bob puts a video up about this just for shits and giggles

  • @tavynmay
    @tavynmay 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This mini series has done a better job at convincing me to buy an oled switch than nintendo has

  • @bmflinux
    @bmflinux 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Hi Wulff Den. I was wondering how the AUDIO PORT is? If you could line the the out of the 18k oled switch into audacity and record it while on the menu so we can measure if there is any noise. For any other product, I would expect for the audio to maybe be funky. For the test I would simply get the best cables you can find ($20 at guitar center, if they are think probably clean signal enough) pop it into audacity, and simply record the machine idling as it was for the last 2 years. People will be able to take that and analyze it compared to "new" switches or what have you.
    So I'm wondering if the HEAT from being on all the time would maybe wear on the DATs and or interfere with the audio signal (plugged in via the head phone jacks! The speakers would probably be fine (considering they weren't used for most of its time probably "better" than a normal switch).

  • @Mrmanga22
    @Mrmanga22 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Insane how I have been following this for two years. It's blowing my mind. The results are insane as well

  • @MartiniBlankontherest
    @MartiniBlankontherest 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The dedication!!
    Gotta love it!

  • @marlo8850
    @marlo8850 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The reason why the battery lasted longer might be due to the pixel cleaning of the oled panel, meaning total luminance is lowered to adjust for the burn in, so total screen brightness even when set to max will be lower and thus draw less power.

    • @TerranigmaQuintet
      @TerranigmaQuintet 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Considering he kept it on the charger for the duration means it barely if ever used the battery, which explains why it lasted longer.

  • @jonwooooo
    @jonwooooo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The size of the switch with these gamecube styled joycons reminds me of the PSO keyboard from back in the day.

  • @CateChapelle
    @CateChapelle 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It’s pretty impressive how much the issue of burn in has been minimized for OLEDs. I have a 2018-2019 ish 55” sony oled that got some minor image retention after like an hour of discord

  • @aarondevola5433
    @aarondevola5433 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My iphone has my homescreen burned in

  • @skyman6936
    @skyman6936 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I've been on the fence about upgrading my OG switch for an OLED but I think I'll just get a steam deck. I have a backlog of games I bought on steam sales over the years any way. Cool to see that the new screens have far less issues.

  • @frumiousgaming
    @frumiousgaming 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Respect to Nintendo for this beast of a device

  • @spell105
    @spell105 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:50 You wouldn't notice a difference because, when a Switch is fully charged, the battery charging circuit shuts off so that the power adapter supplies power directly to the switch. This conserves battery health.

  • @Togorle
    @Togorle 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Bob I want a Baby from you

  • @nathanmead140
    @nathanmead140 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've had my V2 switch since early January 2020 (when we did our Christmas), it's sat dead for weeks or been docked for long periods of time and the battery life is still very good, haven't timed it but I take it with me on 2-3 hour road trips and it's usually still over half charged when I get home, I don't turn it off I leave it in sleep mode all the time even if I don't use it for a while and I have the brightness slider set to 50% with auto brightness turned on, the games I play on it the most are Minecraft The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild & Tears of the Kingdom and Dauntless, it's almost completely stock the only modification I did to it was replacing the thermal paste with arctic MX-4 and replacing the screws I stripped out when I opened it to change the paste.

  • @JaviCastillo_89
    @JaviCastillo_89 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That was great everyone. See you all in the next burn-innversary

  • @TickGO
    @TickGO 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    man, i honestly forgot about this channel and series, you know how life gets. i'm BACK though Bob, thanks for having us :)

  • @TsubakiOnYT
    @TsubakiOnYT 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My first reaction at this on my front page was laughter because like... "LOL did bro time travel?" I'm actually genuinely in shock that it's been 2 years..

  • @dazextralarge
    @dazextralarge 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rechargeable batteries doesn't like to be cycled. This mean, you shouldn't let it get to 0% to start charging, this counts as a cycle. And there is a limited cycle a battery can take before degrading. So the best solution is charging it when it get to 20%.

    • @danieldavis8607
      @danieldavis8607 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And not let it charge past 85%, in my experience.

  • @ImSchup
    @ImSchup 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nintendo should compensate you for maybe some of the best marketing the switch has seen

  • @BuckstarrZ
    @BuckstarrZ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Should mention that most modern electronics with a battery will not keep charging it while plugged in and full. So it makes sense the burned-in switch's battery is in better condition than your other one.

    • @danieldavis8607
      @danieldavis8607 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How many cycles would you guess it has vs the the everyday Switch? I thought leaving devices plugged in was extremely bad for the battery?

  • @ItalianRetroGuy
    @ItalianRetroGuy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    here's a test: now burn in the negative of the screenshot and see if it balances it out.

  • @DWN037
    @DWN037 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is probably stupid to say _after_ you already did the burn-in test, but it would probably be a lot easier to show the burn-in with a screenshot of the SMPTE color bars, or a rainbow. That way, when you change the screen to a solid color, you can see how the burn-in affects every color, instead of just the ones in the BotW screenshot you used.

  • @cashbag
    @cashbag 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Even if your oled burns beyond recognition, its still a Switch that you can dock to your TV

  • @GerhardWawrczeck
    @GerhardWawrczeck 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    OLED displays have gotten much better over the years, Samsung in particular has improved OLED technology, which is why Apple uses it in their devices.

  • @noahcuroe
    @noahcuroe 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "You dont usually hear about OLED computer monitors" what lol? OLED monitors have become very popular in the past several years

  • @Laz3rCat95
    @Laz3rCat95 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm impressed it lasted that long with nothing huge going wrong.

  • @CodeTheFox
    @CodeTheFox 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    New experiment:
    Can you microwave an OLED switch?

  • @amoru5898
    @amoru5898 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's funny, that my old redmi 6 also has burning screen with ips matrix. And burned pixels are not the same every day (except burned screen navigation buttons icons)

  • @crocs_n_socks
    @crocs_n_socks 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Damn dude, now I can't use the screen burn in excuse to justify my jealousy of owning an LCD model instead.