What happens if you leave an OLED Nintendo Switch on for 2 years straight?

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  • @RobotacularRoBob
    @RobotacularRoBob ปีที่แล้ว +5803

    For Bob’s next experiment, he should use a negative reverse of the same image to see if the issue fixes itself.

    • @frestylezz
      @frestylezz ปีที่แล้ว +1051

      It will, that's how "OLED restoration" software works.
      OLED degradation is basically the individual subpixels wearing out. If you do the reverse, you will wear out the other subpixels. if you do that to the same level, you will end up with a "fixed" screen, albeit dimmer than when new, but no more burn-in.

    • @AldoInza
      @AldoInza ปีที่แล้ว +265

      Ten years later:
      So now I am going to spend a year to burn in the reverse of that Mr. Roger meme after we discovered his dark secret. I can still play the third Zelda BOTW trilogy game, and I forget the lizards took over the planet while I play. This video is sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends.

    • @manolo1039
      @manolo1039 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      that's actually a technique used by some phone brands, IIRC, some samsung phones have the option to literally burn the rest of the screen, so the spots of it are "gone"

    • @NataSenpai
      @NataSenpai ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Indeed, now the restoration experiment to see what steps to fix said intended issue to be resolved even the tiniest hint of burn in what could one do to restore the screen. ❤

    • @joejoe2658
      @joejoe2658 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      na, a Palestinian should do that test.

  • @Hundo_Mo
    @Hundo_Mo ปีที่แล้ว +408

    I hope that Bob has this in his office 10 years from now, still plugged in and running. Even if we are deep in to another console generation

    • @Drelochz
      @Drelochz ปีที่แล้ว

      im pretty sure there was a 1-2 week period where he had to stop the experiment when he moved to this office initially

  • @triforce2022
    @triforce2022 ปีที่แล้ว +1114

    I have to say, over the last two years that this has been going on, I admit defeat. I honestly thought that this would be much worse. At 18,000 hours, even gaming at 5 hours every single day, your switch would last nearly 9 years, and at that point, there is probably more wrong with your switch other than just the display.

    • @crd7876
      @crd7876 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Yah my LG CX 55 has been my monitor for 3 years, over 30,000 hours with no burn in, check RTings current test videos, LG panels just keep rolling while Sony and Samsung panels burn in or die. As well I should note that at my job we have around 50 burnt in LCDs, it can happen to any panel that gets hot, and the burn in on those is not only persistent but glaringly obvious in all scenarios

    • @ei..
      @ei.. ปีที่แล้ว +95

      Also remember that this was with a static image. You most likely wouldn't even notice any burnin after 18000 hours if you play different games with different huds

    • @0Synergy
      @0Synergy ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@crd7876 I have the G9 OLED which is using a newer Samsung display, I am pretty curious to see how long it will last I am a pretty avid PC gamer to.

    • @Vriess123
      @Vriess123 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Yeah this is not going to happen to a normal switch OLED, this was purposely made to kill the display and still took 2 years constantly on

    • @Valoric
      @Valoric ปีที่แล้ว +29

      9 years at max brightness, staring at the same screen every single day doing nothing. At dynamic brightness in a normal room it'll probably last as long as the LED start breaking down from oxygen before usage becomes the main factor. Colour me impressed. Never thought OLED would get this good.

  • @AlpineTheHusky
    @AlpineTheHusky ปีที่แล้ว +810

    A pretty unknown fact about nintendo is their battery care. They take VERY WELL care of the batteries in the sense of never charging it too far and turning it off before the battery goes too low. This is also why the charging takes so long. My DSI XL has had multiple thousands of hours on it off of the battery and I tested the battery with a charger tester and it is ABOVE THE RATED mAH RATING (most cells are rated in minimum and not nominal capacity). Nintendo makes robust devices

    • @genderender
      @genderender ปีที่แล้ว +104

      and their ratings for battery life are shockingly accurate. when BOTW came out, i had it on wii u and made a test to play with a fully charged wii u pro controller (80 hours rated). it straight up lasted about 75-78 hours before the low battery light turned on. same with 3ds and switch battery life, never went outside the rated ranges on those consoles

    • @TurboPikachu
      @TurboPikachu ปีที่แล้ว +66

      I am blown away at how long my Switch from late 2017 is lasting between charges 6 years down the line. None of my other smart devices (like my iPhones, Apple Watches, AirPods, etc) have ever kept even 90% of their battery life after their first year

    • @cf3661
      @cf3661 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@TurboPikachuexactly, my iPhone is a little over year old and has 84% battery life 🤦‍♂️

    • @enzog1078
      @enzog1078 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cf3661mine is 2 years old and 86 percent.

    • @f3ryx
      @f3ryx ปีที่แล้ว

      Nintendo publicly recognized the switch will brick itself if you don’t charge it regularly. Nintendo makes shit devices and you are just too ignorant to realize it.

  • @vinc4886
    @vinc4886 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    I think for battery the battery life test, another thing to account for is that your personal switch plays games most of the time it's on, where the burn in switch is constantly on the photo album, not really doing any intense processing. Might affect how the battery works, but at this point you've also proven that none of this really makes a difference. Good job!

    • @antoinepersonnel6509
      @antoinepersonnel6509 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Doesn't make a difference that much, stressing a battery at 90+% is extremely damaging, same as under 10-20%, it's where the ios drag the most toward - or + and where chemicals damage, the task doesn't matter that much.
      But I suspect that it may be possible that because it's the photo app, the switch turn off charging at 100% and wait till it goes to 99 to put current again on the battery, but this 24/24 2 years straight would still have fried the battery.

    • @HydreigonLillipup
      @HydreigonLillipup ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@antoinepersonnel6509 Or, the most likely case, the switch doesn't use the battery at all when plugged in, bypassing it. It keeps the battery topped up, but that would only be from power decay over time, not use. And while 80% is the golden spot for lithium battery longevity, keeping it full is a lot better than it being drained, especially completely for extended periods of time (like he mentioned having the switch in his backpack).
      My assumption is this burn-in switch has actually been healthier for the battery than standard use. Obviously not by a lot, 20 min isn't a huge percentage difference, but does likely go to show docked play preserves the battery by not using it at all.
      Edit: also about the 90%+ thing, modern batteries don't allow the charge to their true maximum capacity to avoid this. We don't know where the switch puts its limit, maybe 95% maybe 90% maybe 85%, and then makes that the maximum, the switches 100%. Phones do this too, charging your phone to 100% isn't actually fully filling the battery. On the flipside, that below 20% mark is getting hit by the standard use switch, especially if he leaves it dead in his backpack for days.

    • @TheFeriner
      @TheFeriner ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The point about bypassing the battery when it’s full is probably correct enough, but I will add in that powering an OLED screen is a pretty significant battery drain. For smartphones it’s pretty common that just having the screen on is one of the most significant ways to drain battery. Of course playing a game is also a very demanding task but even when doing nothing, just keeping all those pixels lit up is no small task

  • @joehoffart9539
    @joehoffart9539 ปีที่แล้ว +218

    This has become my favorite mini series on YT. I hope it continues for years to come.

  • @speedyink
    @speedyink ปีที่แล้ว +174

    When I got my OLED switch at launch I had the same thought. Was so careful about not leaving static things on the screen, or not to play the same game for too long. Needless to say...I no longer do any of this. This was an eye opener test for sure

    • @jadedfire4351
      @jadedfire4351 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hahahah fr so glad to have never had any burn in issues

    • @funnyduck4568
      @funnyduck4568 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would still make sure I doing just leave the screen on when not using but yeah it’s nice not having to worry

  • @kninezbanks
    @kninezbanks ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The burned in switch outlasted your personal switch due to battery wear. Your personal switch has been charged and discharged at least a hundred times, which degrades the battery over time. The burned in switch lasted 5 hours 14 minutes...which is 314 minutes, while your personal switch lasted 4 hours 54 minutes...which is 294 minutes. If you do the math 294/314 = 93.6% or your personal switch has 6.4% battery wear.....which sounds about right......assuming the burned in switch is at exactly 100% (Highly unlikely).........Overall, leaving your battery at 100% for two years isn't great for your battery, but still not as bad as discharging and charging it up again hundreds of times.
    Maybe Nintendo has an internal safety feature which drains the battery by a bit to 80 to 90%, while displaying 100% in the battery indicator without telling you after it detects it has been plugged in at 100% for a couple of weeks/months.....as a safeguard since it stays at 100% when docked for many gamers who play on TV mode only.
    I would love a test where you leave your switch docked for 3 months at 100%, unplug it and do a drain test........then charge it back up again and drain again....if the initial charge is lower then it might confirm my hunch.
    My gaming laptop has a feature that allows you to limit the battery to as low as 606%.....so my laptop has been plugged in for months stuck at 60%. Every device needs this feature.

  • @nastynom3309
    @nastynom3309 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    The update we’ve actually been waiting for

  • @Movie_Games
    @Movie_Games 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    People overreact about burn in. I've been using my LG CX as a computer monitor for a few years. There's burn in from overwatch, marvel snap, chrome, etc etc but I can only see it if I make the entire screen red and I look carefully.

  • @Enum_Dev
    @Enum_Dev ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Thanks for this video. I regularly let me switch stay on for 2 years straight and this has been a major issue. I hope Nintendo does something to fix this😢

  • @Shendowx
    @Shendowx ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This just reminds me of how a lot of people told me not to buy a OLED TV, had two 4k tv's, one I had during the Switch release and the other was during PS4 Pro release.
    Neither one of them got burned in, because what most people don't seem to realize the TVs and other devices usually have a way to stop burning not to mention you're not going to be constantly leave it on.

  • @minecrafter3448
    @minecrafter3448 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Assuming you’ve spent that entire time on that one scene of breath of the wild, you have now officially kept Zelda waiting another hundred years

  • @eduardotepoxteca9171
    @eduardotepoxteca9171 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hey guys , this also applies for TV's. I was hesitant to buy an OLED tv since burning but as some one who uses it for games and movies about 2 hrs a day you need nothing to worry about .
    Also OLED are the best and totally worth the inversion if you are a fan of multimedia content 😊

  • @sinom
    @sinom ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Most Android phones have had oled phones for many years before iPhones ever got them. These very early oled screens (or technically AMOLED) from 15+ years ago are also where a lot of the burn in panic came from

    • @D1cksontello
      @D1cksontello ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah the Vita was a great example. I still have mine somewhere and when the screen goes black there is some blobs stuck on screen from the original person who sold it to me.

    • @salaniorgaan2296
      @salaniorgaan2296 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@D1cksontelloI have that same problem too with mine.
      It's not noticeable tho during gameplay.

    • @SoukaDeezNutz
      @SoukaDeezNutz ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I burned the TH-cam App on my PlayStation Vita. Yeah those old OLED screens suck.

    • @RedAugust08
      @RedAugust08 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was looking for this comment!
      Not to mention Android devices just kept pushing OLED displays all those years and that that's why the technology is so good now. Apple had to wait until Android device manufacturers made OLED good. That's why they are confident. They didn't do it themselves. 😂

    • @salaniorgaan2296
      @salaniorgaan2296 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RedAugust08 Wonder how many years it'll take before Apple adopts the foldable phone "gimmick".
      Probably not that long, because they were confident enough to get into VR with their Vision Pro.

  • @Coffee_dragon16
    @Coffee_dragon16 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Let's take a moment for the GOAT that is the Switch OLED that stayed on for 2 years straight and is still fighting

    • @blales
      @blales ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Poor link having to stand there for so long

    • @spookyweeb5563
      @spookyweeb5563 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nothing unique about this one, realistically you could assume that the majority can do this.

  • @DM-jk4cp
    @DM-jk4cp ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Most modern portable devices have a circuit that will draw power from the charger before drawing power from the battery. Since the Switch was left plugged in, it probably has very few charge cycles.

  • @TimmyJoePCTech
    @TimmyJoePCTech ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My wife has had several pixels, Pixel 3 XL, Pixel 6 Pro and now she's on to the Pixel 8 Pro. Both the 3 and the 6 had way more than acceptable burn in for the TikTok main screen buttons when you put up a white screen when she was done with them. I would imagine she's using Tiktok about as much as every other girl so I can't believe how bad it can get over 2 years of usage.

  • @iThinkergoiMac
    @iThinkergoiMac ปีที่แล้ว +16

    It’s worth noting that the iPhone clock turns off after a few seconds, it doesn’t stay on all night!
    Also, the sub-pixels in an OLED display don’t face individual lights, they ARE the individual lights. OLED screens don’t have a backlight, the pixels are the lights. It’s a small, but important distinction.

    • @firestar4430
      @firestar4430 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have an android, but I'm pretty sure the newer pro iPhones (the ones with LTPO displays) leave the clock on screen 24/7.

    • @iThinkergoiMac
      @iThinkergoiMac ปีที่แล้ว

      @@firestar4430 It’s possible. I have the 13 Pro, and the always on display was introduced on the 14. The clock could be on all night, but if that’s the case I would be annoyed at the light.

    • @halami2149
      @halami2149 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      On the 14 pro and newer, the ones that have always on display, it will stay on, but not forever. It has an auto turn off that turns off the screen when it’s dark and the phone isn’t being used, aka when you’re asleep. It can tell when you’re not going to be looking at it. It will also detect for slight motion, which wakes up the screen

    • @christophervanzetta
      @christophervanzetta ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@firestar4430Android has had that feature for over 5 years and no one complained 🤷‍♂️
      I like apples approach. Let android users be the beta testers then implement the features if it goes well

    • @firestar4430
      @firestar4430 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christophervanzetta this wasn't an apple vs android comment, just an observation. I follow both platforms to see what they're up to and pick whichever one I like more at the time. I have an iPad, a windows desktop, and a macbook. Just prefer android on the phone side at the moment. Always on display was a good addition, I'm glad they finally added it (even if my wife turned it off the second she got her phone lol).

  • @capy9846
    @capy9846 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:50 I have youtube burned into my screen on my older apple device-

  • @TheGamingDooDoo
    @TheGamingDooDoo ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Would like to think that the battery did not take that much of a beating due to the console only displaying a picture, and not drawing-recharging the battery in a fast rate (basically no workload besides the OLED screen). My hypothesis would be that the battery performance would be vastly different if you were running a game for the entire 18,000 hours.
    P.S. kindly correct me about this theory if I'm wrong.

    • @raizino740
      @raizino740 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Rudely corrects you

    • @TheGamingDooDoo
      @TheGamingDooDoo ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@raizino740 *goes full-on Karen mode*

    • @PampersRockaer
      @PampersRockaer ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I think running an actual game should not change the battery usage, since it does use the charger directly in the case and not drain the battery while being charged at the same time.
      If he would use a timed wall plug that connects/disconnected the switch every 4 hours or so, then the battery would be probably dead by now.

    • @MrLinkDay
      @MrLinkDay ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I guess the batery would use more power to run a game, but not strain it more, like the cpu or gpu maybe would.

    • @ryan20028
      @ryan20028 ปีที่แล้ว

      When no screen updates are occuring the system isnt really using much for resources. Just storing an image in memory.

  • @kendb3
    @kendb3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Thanks for keeping the experiment going this long!

  • @JaysonKing69
    @JaysonKing69 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for conducting this experiment and making this video. Yes it may seem mundane and boring to most people but for those of us who have had legitimate concerns with OLED burn-in, potential battery life being negatively impacted by leaving the Switch on the charging dock 24/7 and putting my travel Switch OLED in a bag and forgetting about it for months at a time, thus killing the battery... It's comforting to know that the OLED Switch is remarkably robust and thanks to your effort and dedication to this experiment, we can rest easy knowing that we can use this monumental console without having to worry about such things. In life, we already have so much more to worry about so it's refreshing to know that after this much-needed experiment can put our minds at ease so we can play the Switch however and whenever we want... just how Nintendo intended. Love your channel! I recommend it to all of my nerd friends. Keep up the great work!

  • @TheLuckster
    @TheLuckster ปีที่แล้ว +35

    this series has proved that time moves by too fast, I remember when Bob started this test

  • @ferna182
    @ferna182 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the battery thing actually makes sense. the burned switch was on power supply the whole time, the battery didn't go through any cycles. Your "daily" switch did so it is very much possible that the burned switch has battery in better state than the used one.

    • @Napfkuchen
      @Napfkuchen ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly this. Its funny how many people are impressed but seem to have no idea how a battery works. ^^
      These 2 years of almost stable voltage and no recharge cycles were actually like a wellness healthcare for the battery.

    • @ferna182
      @ferna182 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Napfkuchen yeah I don't understand why people think that the battery is "constantly being charged" when it obviously isn't. it has built in circuitry specifically made to cut power to the battery once it's full.

  • @AnoshterHaar
    @AnoshterHaar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Everyone is going on about the battery not being used that much due to low performamce tasks. But to me it seems more likely that the battery just stayed in a healthy spot.
    Nintendo is very cautious with their battery management. Correct me if I'm wrong. But battery life these days relies on charge cycles. The battery is full and then runs empty, then cycles back up when charging. By keeping the battery plugged in you avoid the battery going trough entire charge cycles. Which in my eyes saves the battery state a lot.
    By keeping the battery in a safe, unstressed and happy place (thx to nintendo battery management), not overcharging or letting it run below 30% (which causes stress as well). You basically don't stress the battery at all.
    Again this is my theory. Love to be corrected or confirmed ;)

  • @DaveSimonH
    @DaveSimonH ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I regularly get some temporary image retention on my laptop (with word docs or other white pages), which has a LCD screen. Same with one of my old tablets. But it always fades after a short while.
    The only OLED I've put a significant amount of hours into is the PS Vita, and it has no obvious signs of burn in (or temp image retention).

  • @crocs_n_socks
    @crocs_n_socks ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn dude, now I can't use the screen burn in excuse to justify my jealousy of owning an LCD model instead.

  • @WArockets
    @WArockets ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is very impressive. It seems pedantic people either are too young or have forgotten that CRT TV tubes were rated to 10-30k hours. That's not degraded that's dead and people didn't complain you got the magic smoke went "damn!" went to the local appliance store and got a new tv generally 1-2 inches bigger than the last one from 10 years ago

  • @GeoffreySorensen
    @GeoffreySorensen ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I feel kind of satisfied finally seeing the burn in. And it's also nice to know that it takes a long time of the exact same imagine staying on the screen for anything to happen. OLED seems to be fine!

  • @YourWishes
    @YourWishes ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you're feeling adventurous Bob, disassemble and see if the battery is bloating/pillowing at all, and see if there's any dust in the fan vents.

  • @FelixEA
    @FelixEA 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i like the idea of a dog being a phone. Not any of its implications, but just the cartoonish idea of it

  • @yo.adrian
    @yo.adrian ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Wow, Nintendo released the OLED Switch two years ago?! Where did the time go?

  • @cashbag
    @cashbag ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Even if your oled burns beyond recognition, its still a Switch that you can dock to your TV

  • @THEpicND
    @THEpicND ปีที่แล้ว +90

    this is the level of Nintendo quality control that we were used to, good to see that they are back to where they were after the joycon debacle

    • @GreekoCanuck
      @GreekoCanuck ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Im not convince that Joycons were an only NIntendo thing. Many controllers, including PS5s has had Joycon issues. Maybe what everyone uses for the joysticks are just problematic.?

    • @THEpicND
      @THEpicND ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@GreekoCanuck I’ll agree with you that most modern joysticks are bad, but joycons were the worst, I went through 3 pairs when I barely use them. I’ve had 1 modern xbox series controller that got drift and I use it much more frequently and aggressively

    • @genderender
      @genderender ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@THEpicND small device means less robust. Low floor on quality in the industry is gonna make it more apparent

    • @snowpeagaming9116
      @snowpeagaming9116 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@GreekoCanuckModern joysticks have been proven to just suck, mostly due to parts wearing down quickly. Nintendo got a lot of flac for it tho because the sticks used on the joycons were even worse than what you already find on most controllers, which i imagine is largely in part bc they’re much smaller and this more tightly packed & fragile

    • @CengoDevrosu
      @CengoDevrosu ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@GreekoCanuckNever had problems with any other controllers. Always those cheap produced joy cons.

  • @MrKinein
    @MrKinein ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think battery longevity wasn't much weared out because it was plugged to a wall all the time. It allows power to bypass the battery all together and deliver electricity straight from a power plug. So the battery was unused whole time

    • @joemamr710
      @joemamr710 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No, lithium ion batteries degrade the fastest at 100% and less than 20%.
      Just existing, doing nothing, whether powered on or off, at 100% causes damage to lithium ion batteries.
      The reason the switch didn’t degrade that much is because it probably internally limits the battery to 90% or so.
      Most devices don’t do that because it would mean an hour or two less of battery life.
      The most optimum use case for a lithium ion battery is to keep it between 40% and 60% at all times, which is what hybrid cars do, for example. If you kept a lithium ion battery between 40 and 60 percent at all times it would last 10x as many years as if you run below and above that.
      Check out batteryuniversity if you want to learn real things about different kinds of batteries.

    • @MrKinein
      @MrKinein ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joemamr710Thanks for the information. And what is more damaging for the battery - staying at 100% or recharge cycle?

    • @joemamr710
      @joemamr710 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrKinein That is an excellent and complicated question! The answer is…. It depends. For the switch in particular cycles are more damaging because they artificially set “100%” at around 90%. But you remember the Samsung galaxy catching on fire issue? That’s because they set 100% at exactly 100%, so the batteries became heavily damaged through normal charging and could even catch fire from the chemical damage of remaining at 100%.

    • @MrKinein
      @MrKinein ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joemamr710 thanks for the info!

  • @obsidiryn
    @obsidiryn ปีที่แล้ว +12

    can't believe its been two years since the oled came out 12:04 perspective makes me feel better about having to possibly buy the oled version if the switch 2 doesn't meet expectations or is just overall ridiculously bad lol thank you bob!

  • @BuckstarrZ
    @BuckstarrZ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should mention that most modern electronics with a battery will not keep charging it while plugged in and full. So it makes sense the burned-in switch's battery is in better condition than your other one.

    • @danieldavis8607
      @danieldavis8607 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How many cycles would you guess it has vs the the everyday Switch? I thought leaving devices plugged in was extremely bad for the battery?

  • @lucasbotingnon8458
    @lucasbotingnon8458 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    omg its been 2 years already???

  • @ItalianRetroGuy
    @ItalianRetroGuy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    here's a test: now burn in the negative of the screenshot and see if it balances it out.

  • @ricardopinho630
    @ricardopinho630 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When fully charged the power bypasses the battery. So the 2 year experiment switch hasn't used the battery almost at all

  • @takrak
    @takrak ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think I know why the battery was better on the burned in switch, it was constantly using power, so it wasn’t overcharging to the same degree, but still that’s pretty insane

  • @DJJD669
    @DJJD669 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was just thinking about this little series, wondering if it was still going, and if so how the Switch was doing, and then this video popped up in my recommendations lol. The timing is great

  • @vhfgamer
    @vhfgamer ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Without a shadow of a doubt. The two least used features on my switch are...
    The screen
    The battery
    I wanted a Nintendo home console, and I got it.

  • @BarrickMacready
    @BarrickMacready ปีที่แล้ว +1

    12:59 best ad for nintendo switch 10/10
    Thank you for the 2 year update. i just got an OLED switch for my son and remembered your previous videos

  • @HiCZoK
    @HiCZoK ปีที่แล้ว +4

    7000 hours on my lg c1 tv. Still looks brand new

    • @hurgcat
      @hurgcat ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a lg c2 and I fucking love it

  • @AndersHass
    @AndersHass ปีที่แล้ว +2

    11:30 The Switch is build for specific USB power delivery charging rate, so they would have to change it to make it work with higher charging speeds if they wanted it to have higher charging speeds. It might not be simple to change it since the charging is probably built into the SoC and not a dedicated chip that can be changed.

  • @IceBlueLugia
    @IceBlueLugia ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The original video was the first video of yours I ever watched; introduced me to the idea of watching countless videos of products I’ll probably never buy, even on other channels lol

  • @dualmo7185
    @dualmo7185 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn I actually asked myself how this experiment is going a few days ago

  • @wolfiemuse
    @wolfiemuse ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Bob, I know that basically all you did with this thing was do some slightly annoying setup to get this thing to stay on forever and then just sat it down for months at a time, but I still want to thank you. This is a good service that you’ve provided to the world by sacrificing your own property to prove a common myth wrong. Thank you.

  • @INSTRUMENTALGUY45510
    @INSTRUMENTALGUY45510 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:07 Honkai Star Rail players know how legendary that date is

  • @finestcustard5647
    @finestcustard5647 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Your test on the heat is pretty awesome. If you can you should try putting the switch in a deep freeze or something and test how it operates and its battery life. Living in Canada I always worry about my switches battery life during the winter

    • @RAHelllord
      @RAHelllord ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Low temperatures are usually not a big problem for electronic devices as long as you don't turn it on before it reaches room temperature. If you leave it in the car overnight while it drops to -20c just put it into a dry and warm room and let it acclimate for about 6 hours to ensure it's warm enough and that any potential condensation has gone away.
      If your switch is at risk of being in such low temperatures it might also be prudent to ensure it's turned off fully instead of just being put to sleep.

    • @AkaSora96
      @AkaSora96 ปีที่แล้ว

      High temperatures are worse for battery's than low temperatures

  • @matthewrease2376
    @matthewrease2376 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    10:50 if I were to wager a guess, your personal Switch goes through a lot when you play it (battery, CPU, and GPU intensive games), whereas the burn unit is almost never doing anything more advanced than displaying a static image.

  • @therizinosaurus214
    @therizinosaurus214 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It is impressive that it has taken this amount of time to have such severe burn in

  • @misspotato813
    @misspotato813 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The charging circuit for most devices nowadays will stop charging the battery once it reaches a threshold. Effectively solving the problem of overcharging the battery. When this happens the power being dumped into the switch from the charger is only as much is needed to do the tasks.

  • @DllGray
    @DllGray ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've worked at a local tech store for a bit over a year and we worked with iphones a lot, also refurbished models. I gotta say that I've barely seen any burn in on any of the displays. I've seen it on 1 iphone Xs and one iphone X so I think it would be most likely to happen on the older models. Kinda insane to think how far oled has come

  • @samanthagriffinv2.08
    @samanthagriffinv2.08 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Usually with electronics like that there’s smart circuitry to protect the lithium ion battery from over charge and over discharge in English once the battery is fully charged it’ll run from the wall power only until it’s unplugged

  • @wolfiemuse
    @wolfiemuse ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love that you’ve kept the “YA HUNGRY?!?” joke going, please never stop lol. If they offer you a personalized Wulff Den code, for the love of god don’t take it. 😂😂

  • @NightSprinter
    @NightSprinter ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THANK YOU, BOB!! Someone else also recognizes it as burn-OUT.

  • @victoriascholl4607
    @victoriascholl4607 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This made me happy - I bought my first Switch, an Oled, this year in March. I have been wanting to play the two new Fire Emblem games. It's nice to know my new toy is a bit tougher than I thought. Thanks.

    • @21backwards78
      @21backwards78 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I bought mine in march too! I love it

  • @toyotaae86trueno
    @toyotaae86trueno ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Me : hears "burn-in"
    My brain : CRT SCREEN

  • @jesleehdz
    @jesleehdz ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Most I’ve had with burn-in with on my iPhone is some light screen retention that you can only really see in dim settings. After iOS 17.1 even that went away. Great vid.

    • @ironshadowy
      @ironshadowy ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yeah that was a software bug. suprising that was

  • @Ashgotyeeted
    @Ashgotyeeted 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I kinda forgot that the oled has been out for 2 entire years, i honestly though it was out in 2022

  • @justin07820
    @justin07820 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you can come up with some type of contraption to remove and reattach the joy cons I’d be very interested to see how many times before significant wear is formed. My switch is coming up on 7 years old and the right side just doesn’t want to stay connected while attached.

  • @Arv.o
    @Arv.o ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "sleep deprived switch cant hurt you, its not real"
    sleep deprived nintendo switch:

  • @jeffrobertson8977
    @jeffrobertson8977 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome info. A quick battery tip. Lithium batteries don't handle being fully discharged for any length of time. Just about any other scenario is fine but leaving a battery dead for any length of time will kill it. I've lost every smart watch I've owned by leaving them with dead batteries for modest lengths of time.

  • @Apollo-iq1vx
    @Apollo-iq1vx ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a 4-year old LG OLED phone that has mild burn-in. Took like 2 years to initally notice it.
    The rapid and severe burn-in is more of a problem with older OLEDs, like the PS Vita's OLED.
    In the future, MicroLED will have the benifits of OLED with the decades-long lifespan of LCDs. But until then OLED seems to be doing fine.

  • @heyspookyboogie644
    @heyspookyboogie644 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The switch seems like the least susceptible sort of device to get burn in from normal use purely by the nature of what it is. It doesn’t have status symbols showing 24/7 like a phone. So it’s really good info for a switch, but not necessarily for OLED panels in general.

    • @amputatedhairstrands
      @amputatedhairstrands ปีที่แล้ว +15

      not really. most games have static huds and if it is, for example, a multiplayer game that you can sink hundreds or thousands of hours in, it definitely could burn the UI in
      of course under normal conditions it's unlikely for noticeable burn in to happen, but i wouldn't say gaming devices are the least susceptible to burn in because games all have very persistent ui elements

    • @alexh7513
      @alexh7513 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It‘s a much cheaper oled screen than on most phones. So it shows that oled burn in isn‘t a problem anymore. The oled technology today is much better than 5 years ago.

    • @pres002
      @pres002 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's the same oled tech..... Bro doesn't know anything

    • @genderender
      @genderender ปีที่แล้ว +2

      phones get around the issue by simply not giving a shit that pixels degrade. iphones will run pixels at a specific brightness regardless of how degraded they are, there's no other burn-in prevention methods built in
      as well, static images aren't directly what cause burn-in, burn-in is a bad term from the CRT days (when it was literal). The more a OLED pixel gets used the more it degrades, this means *any* content will degrade the image over 2 years not a static one. a proper comparison is this old switch to a new one

    • @RAHelllord
      @RAHelllord ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@genderenderOf course OLED burn in happens with any use but it happens faster the higher current, and thus brightness, of the individual sub pixel is. That's why the burn can be visible as shapes on the screen instead of the entire screen becoming uniformly dimmer over time. Our eyes also are more sensitive to luminosity changes in high contrast areas so shapes with sharp edges will stick out even more.
      To top it all off different colored subpixels require different power levels for the same perceived brightness. Iirc blue takes the lowest amount of power and red the most, meaning red pixels will always burn in the fastest and blue the slowest, making anything that's a bright red a perfect candidate for noticeable burn in.

  • @Pheicou
    @Pheicou ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a launch Switch, I still don't know if leaving it in the Dock most of the time is gonna drain the lithium battery quickly over time, Nintendo says no but everyone always has contradicting opinions on lithium batteries and I don't know what to believe anymore.

  • @MartiniBlankontherest
    @MartiniBlankontherest ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The dedication!!
    Gotta love it!

  • @denisruskin348
    @denisruskin348 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We are approaching 23k hours. Maybe time for a new video at 25k?
    Though to be fair, we got the point already. And I don't play anything outside max brightness on my unit.

  • @CateChapelle
    @CateChapelle ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s pretty impressive how much the issue of burn in has been minimized for OLEDs. I have a 2018-2019 ish 55” sony oled that got some minor image retention after like an hour of discord

  • @TeamLinux01
    @TeamLinux01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I had to take a guess, Nintendo did the very smart thing with bypassing the battery when fully charged and docked and only charging when the battery falls under a certain threshold.
    If that is true, then even though it is on and "charging", it isn't actually draining or charging the battery, so the cycling of the battery isn't happening as much as your switch that you play with all the time.
    I leave my original switch turned on and in the dock all the time and I feel like the battery has only lost 5-10% after 5 years.

  • @fluffybunnybadass
    @fluffybunnybadass 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Very happy to hear about this update. I wasn't ever concerned about burn-in for my oled, but I love to hear about it being a beast, considering I only upgraded because my previous one bricked after 3 years. :D
    I wonder how long it'll take before the screen is completely useless at this rate?

  • @TickGO
    @TickGO ปีที่แล้ว +1

    man, i honestly forgot about this channel and series, you know how life gets. i'm BACK though Bob, thanks for having us :)

  • @bmflinux
    @bmflinux ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Hi Wulff Den. I was wondering how the AUDIO PORT is? If you could line the the out of the 18k oled switch into audacity and record it while on the menu so we can measure if there is any noise. For any other product, I would expect for the audio to maybe be funky. For the test I would simply get the best cables you can find ($20 at guitar center, if they are think probably clean signal enough) pop it into audacity, and simply record the machine idling as it was for the last 2 years. People will be able to take that and analyze it compared to "new" switches or what have you.
    So I'm wondering if the HEAT from being on all the time would maybe wear on the DATs and or interfere with the audio signal (plugged in via the head phone jacks! The speakers would probably be fine (considering they weren't used for most of its time probably "better" than a normal switch).

  • @user-of8zc1gj2s
    @user-of8zc1gj2s ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bob yelling YAHUNGRY is one of my favorite parts of these videos 😂 I love the work you do, keep taking care of yourself!

  • @allenellisdewitt
    @allenellisdewitt ปีที่แล้ว +32

    For Nintendo's faults, their hardware engineering never disappoints.

    • @finadoggie
      @finadoggie ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Except on joycons lol

    • @Zorgot.
      @Zorgot. ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@finadoggie true ig there's that lmao

    • @Howitchewstofeel5gum
      @Howitchewstofeel5gum ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Joy-Con drift, the flimsy kickstand of the regular Switch, needing to remove the back cover of the New 3DS to take out the SD card, the terrible screen of the Wii U Gamepad, the shitty D-Pad on the Switch Pro controller, no analog triggers... I mean, should I go on? Lol

    • @Zorgot.
      @Zorgot. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Howitchewstofeel5gum i guess, but the Wii U screen was bad? i never thought anything was wrong with it

    • @Howitchewstofeel5gum
      @Howitchewstofeel5gum ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Zorgot. Low res and the touch screen was pretty crappy even for 2013, being resistive instead of capacitive

  • @janirobe
    @janirobe 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    imagine the OLED switch came out 2 years ago and there still isn't even a switch 2 announced yet... that's a 2016 mobile processor...

    • @danieldavis8607
      @danieldavis8607 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Still playing the hell out of my 1st gen.

    • @janirobe
      @janirobe 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@danieldavis8607 damn dude, you've been playing on an iphone 7 level processor this entire time? Ninendo has you covered, they will support first gen another 10 years before releasing a sequel because no one seems to care

  • @skyman6936
    @skyman6936 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've been on the fence about upgrading my OG switch for an OLED but I think I'll just get a steam deck. I have a backlog of games I bought on steam sales over the years any way. Cool to see that the new screens have far less issues.

  • @jonwooooo
    @jonwooooo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The size of the switch with these gamecube styled joycons reminds me of the PSO keyboard from back in the day.

  • @frumiousgaming
    @frumiousgaming ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Respect to Nintendo for this beast of a device

  • @ImCooler10
    @ImCooler10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can it survive being blown up with a nuclear bomb

  • @Togorle
    @Togorle ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bob I want a Baby from you

  • @GROENAASMusic
    @GROENAASMusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's been 2 years already?? Gosh...

  • @RegalPixelKing
    @RegalPixelKing 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    By the sound of things the OLED Switch is impossible to have burn-in for any normal real world use. Even if you played the Switch 18-20 hours a day every day since launch as long as a game is played normally burn-in won't happen.

  • @noahcuroe
    @noahcuroe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "You dont usually hear about OLED computer monitors" what lol? OLED monitors have become very popular in the past several years

  • @Mrmanga22
    @Mrmanga22 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Insane how I have been following this for two years. It's blowing my mind. The results are insane as well

  • @ImSchup
    @ImSchup 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nintendo should compensate you for maybe some of the best marketing the switch has seen

  • @amoru5898
    @amoru5898 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's funny, that my old redmi 6 also has burning screen with ips matrix. And burned pixels are not the same every day (except burned screen navigation buttons icons)

  • @AdrielDoesGaming
    @AdrielDoesGaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dang, 2 years? I remember when you started this experiment and I wondered how badly the screen would burn

  • @jamielane6829
    @jamielane6829 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my switch broke and stopped charging after 18 months of pretty tame use. Nintendo sent out a brand new switch instead of fixing for free - but it did mean i lost all my saves.

  • @SkofE33
    @SkofE33 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me: Oh, I like those game cube style joy-cons!
    Bob: I think they're pretty stupid.

  • @cirmothe9
    @cirmothe9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People are starting to refer to your video for oled burn in but they're assuming it took the full 2 years for the burn in. Me thinks you should have mentioned when it started showing signs of burn in in the video. Like a timeline.

  • @marlo8850
    @marlo8850 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The reason why the battery lasted longer might be due to the pixel cleaning of the oled panel, meaning total luminance is lowered to adjust for the burn in, so total screen brightness even when set to max will be lower and thus draw less power.

    • @TerranigmaQuintet
      @TerranigmaQuintet 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Considering he kept it on the charger for the duration means it barely if ever used the battery, which explains why it lasted longer.

  • @gamma8gear
    @gamma8gear ปีที่แล้ว +1

    18000 hours would take someone who uses their switch 4 hours a day, every day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year... 4500 days or about 12,5 years. but even then it wouldnt not burn in because you would be doing something different every second of play time.

    • @danieldavis8607
      @danieldavis8607 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      12.5 years? Recharged every day? What state would that battery be in?

  • @Rob-hu3yj
    @Rob-hu3yj ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to only use Samsung androids up until the S4 and they all got burn in within a month so I switched to LG phones until they discontinued their phone production. I went back to Samsung S10 and I've had it for almost a year and no burn in. Technology went a long way in about 5 years

  • @kylebrandon4556
    @kylebrandon4556 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't think that would happen. Thought a whole lot worst was gonna happen

  • @phil7121
    @phil7121 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i can't believe the battery isn't bursting at the seams by now... that's pretty insane

    • @Napfkuchen
      @Napfkuchen ปีที่แล้ว

      Its not insane, its how a lithium battery works. These 2 years it never went through a charge-cycle at all.

  • @dictionarsis
    @dictionarsis ปีที่แล้ว

    I have Nokia old school as my collection.
    Nokia N86, also use AMOLED screen, but until now is working fine, no burn in, no shadow, no pink or green line.
    Everything is based on use.
    Even IPS can burn in if user don't manage it well.