Bit of an impromptu video, wasn't planning on doing one but was curious in a water test after running the gloss measuring. Again, those interested in my gloss crusade can follow along at Autopia in my comprehensive gloss thread: www.autopia.org/forums/paint-correction-and-gloss-enhancement/191435-comprehensive-gloss-measurement-thread-waxmode-testing.html More testing coming up!
Waxmode, could you do a comparison of correcting a panel without stripping it first VS. stripping and then correcting. I have a feeling that stripping before correcting is completely useless......Let’s see if my hypothesis is correct.....
@@TheTrueAdonis1 you are destroying yours pads with gunk, old waxes/sealants and accumulated dirt on them, make them harder to clean at the end and prolly permanent gunked
Definitely, I can try this with Fusso Coat. I think some LSP's can run interference with the polish more than others, and some don't need to be knocked down at all, just depends on what you're working with. If it happens, the polish is usually going to be uncharacteristically difficult to wipeoff and the finish left behind is not as clean looking. It might not mean much at all for the LSP that comes afterwards, as products don't necessarily require absolute cleanliness for performance. Usually I will run Prep-All as my pre-polish wipe, or McKee's 37 Coating Prep Polish as a nonabrasive cleaner prior to polishing with abrasives on the test panel.
I've got ~50 waxes collected - some well known for top end results. Atlantique is just best in terms of looks. It hands on on the same panel / panel to panel, outcompeted everything. Period. And it lasts well, keeps looks with washes. Amazing stuff.
The rare Meguiars #16 which I use on my VW GTI beads like a scared cat. One measly coat lasts over two months in the scorching hot Texas sun. Meguiars needs to bring that wax back. None of their newer waxes perform as long as #16.
The hydrophobic properties are unreal! Very cool to see this video and the info that you gave about coatings taking over the market like they have and basically phasing out product like this. Great video buddy!
Thanks MeanBee! So fun to get the hose out and see this type of behavior in action, mesmerizing! I was happy to see the market shift, coatings brought such a vastly greater durable performance and they overshadowed the mystique and draw of these top dollar waxes in my eyes. The market still found a way to build an exclusive style system with the influx of all of these professional-only or certified-only coatings, that I wish I could get my hands on to test! But at least from a price to performance aspect, the clients are ending up with much better protection as opposed to just the hype of the insanely expensive waxes. I still want to get my hands on more Vintage, and find a sample of Royale to play around with!
Thanks a bunch Maximilan! Always great to see you posting in here. So fun to work with these waxes, wish I had the full size jars, these 2oz samplers are terrible to dab the foam applicator in to load them up. You have any bad sweating issues with the waxes in your area? Ital sweats bad for me in particular.
I didn’t notice any sweeting issues in our hot climate but zymol HD cleanse can leave some residue and I must check and leave streaking which I need mist of water to remove it , Zymol Ital didn’t attract me I don’t think I will buy it again I did test before 3 months on black lexus I applied Zymol Creame, glasur , Destiny, Vintage and Atlantique and I love the look of Atlantique and Destiny I can tell the zymol Waxes Contains white carnuba 100% without the yellow it gives more clarity and reflection also I like the destiny and Royal reflect like p21s Concours but Atlantique still my #1 , if you like check my channel there is two old video before 9 years I did test for Concours and Glasur .
Really appreciate the feedback! Your 2 months test of Concours is sheeting water like absolute magic still, that's awesome performance. Glasur I did get upwards of 2.5 months with one coat with decent remaining performance, not aggressive hydrophobics at that point but decent sheeting. Your Glasur video shows such amazing water performance I love seeing that in action! Concours I want to pull out next and play around with it more. You'll have to get some more videos up of your Zymol collection!
Way to expensive but cool to see! Hydrophobic’s are amazing though. Could you wax an entire car or more with the 2 ounces? I need to get that water nozzle I really like the flood setting.
You can spread Zymol pretty far, should be able to get a few cars out of the 2oz sampler but you'd drive yourself nuts in the process. Loading the applicator through this small of a jar is absolutely terrible, triggers me beyond belief, which is probably why some guys are crazy enough to dish out the full amount for the 8oz jars!
Thanks onkar, I really enjoy pulling out Glasur, I use it the most out of the rest of my Zymol waxes and was one of the first ones that I picked up in the lineup. What year M5 are you working on?
This is my favorite wax, and I used in my 2 cars every month, but I recommend to you put HD cleanse from zymol first ,for complete bonding then the result is awesome
Zymol will always have a place on my detailing heart, I bought a bunch of their products when I first got into detailing and I still have my container of Carbon and Creame. They certainly smell the best and are wonderful in the short term but a few days cooking in the hot sun will cook most if not all of the protection off.
Definitely, Zymol can take a sizable hit in performance in the sun, one of the reasons why short term consecutive wash testing and strip wash testing are not accurate determinants of long term durability.
@waxmode so i find that having a car cover for when your car is out of the garage or at work really does help the longevity of the waxes... in the California sun.... Really depends 3 months maybe without a car cover... Maybe 6 months to a year if it's garaged and covered outside during working hours... Depending how much it's driven.... I've seen zymol titanium last longer than 2 years on cars that haven't been driven and been garaged and been covered for long lengths of time.... It all depends... Nothing really beats the look of a their waxes... I love that you don't discount waxes.... Compared to coatings... Both have their places... I've also used somax cc36 ceramic coating love that too... It's infact amazing.... But I still go back to zymol
Once again, you never disappoint on the appropriateness of your video. This particular video was great in the fact you showcased that the normal weekend (aka "driveway") enthusiast such as myself does not need to spend a fortune on a wax to put onto a vehicle, even if that vehicle is a show car or Ferrari F40, in the rare event that someone like myself could even afford anything even remotely close to a level of vehicle like that...which ain't happenin'! Anyway, back to the point, yes, those initial hydrophobic's are some of the most impressive you've showcased on your channel. BUT, after a strip wash, BAM, yep, it's pretty much gone, showing that those expensive waxes aren't much better than Turtle Wax from a practical standpoint. Yes, they may look absolutely drop dead gorgeous on a car going to Pebble Beach for judging and appropriately so. That's a scenario where I would say, yes, 100% it would be worth using it. And you really wouldn't care about the price because I'm sure those jokers are paying 20 times that much or more to get their vehicles detailed for "the lawn at Pebble". But the most important thing I got from this video is I can buy a can of Fusso Coat for about $40 and get close to the level, or comparable level of hydrophobic's and my $40 worth of hydrophobic's will hold up for about a year with good maintenance washes and occasional top ups. OK, i'll pay the $40 and spend my other approximately $1575 on insurance, gas, and all my detailing products for a year on my Nissan 370Z that I got used, with super low miles, for a fantastic price, in almost new condition, and I only drive occasionally as my extra car. Great video bud. Keep up the impressive testing you do, it helps a bunch of us out here in the real world. Joe
Cheers Joe! Love those 370Z's, check out Car Cleaning Guru wash his Nismo on here if you haven't seen it yet, just a really cool looking car: th-cam.com/video/f-lu-Y4P8L0/w-d-xo.html You're exactly right, the idea that you will get the kind of performance as a protectant like Fusso Coat, while spending $1,600 dollars on the wax is just not going to happen. For that kind of money I would expect the wax to add about a 1-2mil thick layer of impenetrable hydrophobic wizardry! Or perhaps guarantee the best of show award at Pebble Beach! Zymol is a good wax, possibly a great wax, but it will never match the hydrophobic staying power of Fusso. This insane water behavior is quite short lived in the real world, although I am able to get upwards of 2-3 months of durability from Zymol, it does slow down significantly after a few weeks where Fusso is still quite the monster. Again, always appreciate your comments and thoughts!
@@WaxMode I have seen Car Cleaning Guru's Nismo! I follow his channel also and he has some really great content as well. I actually looked at several Nismo 370z's but I couldn't pass on this one as it was 6 years old, in mint condition, with only 11,000 miles and almost HALF the price of the Nismo. I went with the 370Z Touring which is close to the Nismo in performance but doesn't have all the Nismo bits. The body style hasn't changed in FOREVER, but for the money, reliability of a Nissan, the horsepower in a fairly small car, and fun factor, it's really one of the best sports car deals on the market right now. And there is a ton of used ones out there so the deals are incredible.
One thing to note... is at least for waxes like zymol titanium you can re apply it to an already protected car assuming your paint doesn't need claying reapplying as maintenance is definitely easier than going through the whole process with hd-cleanse again. Titanium easily would last me at least 3-6 months in California even when I would leave the car outdoors during the mornings and nights and wiped down then under a car cover when at work still in the sun. Just make sure the detail spray you are using doesn't take away from the wax. Without the car cover though... I would say it cuts the durability to about 3ish months.... Which isn't bad at all for a wax that looks so good. I have also used Sonax CC36 and Sonax BSD and Sonax PNS.... Some times i would use sonax pns and then top it with zymol. Beading insantity....BEADSANITY... haha. I am really curious about the new HD-cleanse with Si02 in it... That being said... CC36 is fantastic... but nothing quite beats the Zymol Look. I've also seen cars that were covered in a garage that were Zymol'd before storage and amazingly the zymol will last years on cars in storage. 3 or 4 years later the car was still glowing and still beading...
IMO, the zymol's high-end wax is seek to extremely clarity in order to reveal the high-end car‘s perfect paint work rather than cloak it. Some lower-level wax is designated to cloak flaw on paint, which changed the sense of vision also.
It's tricky for sure. Wax clarity is one thing that the glossmeter will pick up on, any wax that provides a superior clarity will be able to maintain better gloss units on paint that has been polished to the highest level that abrasives can achieve without wetsanding. Atlantique will still reduce the measurable gloss rating on this panel compared to the post-abrasive step, and it's similar to other waxes in how much it will reduce the numbers. That's because the oils in the wax are at play which diffuse the light and this accounts for the lower measurable gloss. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing at all! The oils in the wax that aren't fully absorbed by the microfiber are possibly the main attribute in increasing paint depth, wetness, and richness.
I was reading up on the new ISM Coat 3.0, Kamikaze is definitely something I want to try out in the future, always heard great feedback from the guys on how good Zipang looks. Just need to break out the piggy bank!
Fantastic video man! The hydrophobics look almost fake... out of all the videos of yours I have watched this Zymol just looks unreal! I bought there car wash a looong time ago not knowing about the brand at all... absolutely LOVED it. Smells so good. Left the paint looking so great. Hey, I tried to order more Poorboys stripdown and couldn't find it on detailed image 🤔 that's where I got my last few bottles. Anywho, great video brother!✊✊ Update haha. Found stripdown at autogeek! Lol
Thanks Smurf! So addicting to see this type of beading and runoff! I haven't tried Zymol's car soap yet, I believe Turtle Wax was previously supplying their over-the-counter product line in the past. I want to pick up their Field Glaze in the future for sure. I'm not sure why Poorboy's haven't put Strip Down up on Amazon yet, but I believe I grabbed a gallon on Autogeek during their last 30% off sale, couldn't resist. But I'm burning through this stuff real quick with how much I'm dumping on the paint during these strip tests!
@@WaxMode ahhh ok I gotcha! I'm literally on Autogeeks site with a gallon in my cart but might wait for that discount.. I've got enough for one or maybe 2 more stripdowns left. You got me hooked... I can imagine the amount you go through with all your tests!!
I've tried so many different products over the years. Vehicles always look nice cleaned with them but only zymol has made my paint(and others) have a certain shine and insane beading. Would definitely use them more if my pockets were bigger
Interesting bro, so just buy zymol carbon?! I have glasur and love it. Im a old school waxer.. Not a huge fan of coatings and sealants.. Not therapeutic enough 😉
Got the Ceramic Refresh in! Currently working on a video for the latest batch of Ceramic Wax Pro, so I should have some footage of Ceramic Refresh afterwards.
Any difference with the latest batch of ceramic pro? I know a bad batch floated around a little while ago. How would you know if I have a bottle from the bad batch, durability I guess? Luckily I have a bit of a garage Queen so not too concerned about longevity. It gives a ridiculous shine and gloss though. Ethos is underrated.👍
I never snagged up any of the Swissvax waxes, but I've come close a few times. That was the big battle back in the day between Vintage, Royale, and Swissvax Divine. Would like to get my hands on at least one Swissvax wax in the future.
Hey, you ever heard of Zymol Field Glaze? I just came across it by chance on Detailing.com website and was wondering if you had any experience with it? It is a spray wax. Looks to be a topper or "in between" waxing type product. I just wondered if it was any good or how easy it was to use, apply and remove. The description I found says: -Naturally Derived Product---21% mixture of Florida Carnauba Sap and Purified Spring Water---Pure Coconut and Avocado Oils---Enjoy the spray wax that Aston Martin uses at their factory.
Hey Joe! No I actually never picked up Field Glaze, but I have heard some good reviews for it. Nothing super special, there’s a lot of products now in this spray on category that can compete with one another. I still really like Polish Angel Rapidwaxx as a regular protectant and spray wax to work with if I want to use something special. If not then Ultimate Quik Wax or Hybrid Ceramic Detailer would get the most use from me after washings.
I have been using Zymol Concours for over thirty years and the products are amazing. The water beading only lasts three to four weeks but I have seen the product stay on the paint for almost six months. I wonder how Zymol performs as a topper for a ceramic?
Concours definitely feels a bit unique to me compared to the rest of the Zymol lineup, bit different texture to it, much different scent as well. Great wax. As far as topping a full ceramic coating like CQUK 3.0, I wouldn't recommend it. The wax can clog the coating up and since it's a heavier product, once the wax degrades you're going to lose that awesome hydrophobic property that the coating provides by itself. On a coating much more weathered I most likely wouldn't mind topping that with a wax, but that wouldn't be my preference on a fresh or a healthier paint coating.
I have the exact collection of zymol waxes, haven’t try Atlantic yet. How is the hd cleanser ? Did you had problems in application? I use a damp applicator makes the wipe off much easier
Very cool to hear, I'm getting ready to pull my sample of Concours out to play around with soon. HD Cleanser is definitely on the heavier side, like you said I also like to use that damp towel for the wipeoff, otherwise I'll be buffing for quite some time to get it to level down to where I want it with just a dry microfiber. Smells great though, surface feels smooth afterwards. What's your favorite wax out of the lineup that you've tried so far?
How do these luxury waxes stack up in this day and age of ceramic coating? And why on earth does everyone tell you to never apply a Carnuba wax onto of a ceramic coating? What's the crime in doing so?
Cool video. Never heard of this brand before. But it was nice to see the flood of water fly off in a satisfying manner. So it appears they have less expensive waxes and then the super high end you were speaking of?
Hey Jason! Yes Zymol's Carbon and Creame are their entry waxes between $40-60, and pretty similar in terms of performance to their higher priced options to be honest.
@@jaykid007 I usually apply with a foam applicator by hand, I'll put on about enough to cover half of this hood and then begin buffing off, I wouldn't wait more than a few minutes of allowing this to dry before buffing off. These 8oz jar tops can also be annoying to get the threads to screw back onto the jar as well, bit of a nuisance until you figure it out. Love to hear what you think!
LOL I’m retired I can’t afford that stuff .... I have a question tho ... Fusso soft 99 ... from all video’s I’ve seen it’s pretty good stuff ... if I were to use it ... must think it’s a sealant ..either way could or can I put a topper on it and if so what would you use?
I have 3 cans of the Fusso soft 99. Enough for the rest of my life. Prep the car wash clay correct. Wipe down 50/50 alcohol & water. Put Fusso on as thin as possible. Work small sections don’t let it sit to long it’s a pain if it completely dries to buff off. Wait 24 hrs when done and you can top it off with anything. The turtle wax seal & shine works great & you can stack coats on top. Fusso with 2 coats by itself easily last 8 months. With occasional toppers it will for sure last a year. Hands down the longest sealant I have ever used. It’s not a gloss enhancer so the topper you use will bring out that gloss. The topper also protects the Fusso. One thing about the Fusso keep it off your plastics. If you get it on the plastic just remove it right away. Also not recommended for your plastic headlights. Seal & Shine works well for that. No need to pay 2 grand for a wax. That’s just insane !
I still think S100 paste wax is a great value and looks great on the paint, just smells musty. Pinnacle Souveran might not have the fresh hydrophobics of Zymol, but I think it can easily compete on how it makes the paint look, and I've never had sweating issues with it and is a bit easier to apply and remove.
Too hard to pick a best wax, some are better at protecting and some are easier and more fun to work with and deliver a showcar glow. If protection is your focus, look into Griot’s latest Ceramic 3-In-1 Wax which is a spray formula, I’ve gotten excellent durability out of it. If you’re looking for a great showcar wax, Pinnacle Souveran is hard to beat, but not very durable. Zymol Glasur is another great paste wax, better durability than Souveran, not quite as easy to use but great shine and depth.
I applied Soft 99 light new formula yesterday, yes it looks identical zymol win in Application and removal but as you said Fusso looks will last longer and slightly looks faster or what I can say ? It looks stronger !
Thanks Mark! I would agree, I don't think I can get very much insight into the long term durability of the products without putting them through a durability test on one of the daily drivers. Wolfgang Spray Coating I applied an additional coat to the right half of the front bumper so I'm checking to see if this strengthens the long term hydrophobic durability compared to the single coat application.
Hank's Detailing I remember when I was using my Mac with the standard jack plug EarPods for voiceover, the mic wasn’t nearly as good as the mic on the EarPods with the lightning port on the phone. Wasn’t sure if this was iOS iMovie related or if they really boosted the mic on the lightning EarPods, but this was one of the prime reasons I switched to editing voiceover with my phone.
Right, sweating/ghosting/hazing, Ital does this significantly in this heat which is a shame because it goes on so well and looks fantastic on the paint beforehand.
I always had durable results out of the Ice Paste Wax on the blue Honda, great hydrophobics. Ice Spray Wax was another fantastic topper and maintenance product. Loved their Endura-Shine products before they were discontinued, their Express Shine Carnauba Cleaner Spray Wax I've also seen perform some magic on lightly oxidized paint. Turtle Wax had some great products before the Seal N Shine frenzy in my opinion, which is funny because I'm not crazy about SNS. NuFinish though I could never get along with it. I've see it be very durable in Scott H's testing, but on the Honda daily driver that paint hated NuFinish and the hydrophobics didn't last beyond a few weeks. Shows that beyond prepwork, the paint type can have a major impact in long term durability.
The Atlantique, Vintage, and Royale sample kit is $665, I picked up the Concours, Destiny, and Atlantique kit for $221 and I snagged a 1oz sample of Vintage along the way from another detailer.
That's a ton of Seal N Shine! The case for Vintage years ago was under $2,000 and I was close to picking that up. With as much as I've spent over the years just to try different products out I could have probably picked up a lifetime supply of Royale!
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Some waxes are going to be more sensitive to heat. But I've had Glasur easily last 2.5 months on the daily driver in the Florida summer before removing it to test other products, surface temperatures in the 170°+F range.
I love switching to the flood setting on the nozzle and just letting the water flood and collect all of the beading right off the paint. Looks so smooth on a crazy hydrophobic surface.
I've used a Zymol $2500 wax on a client's Range Rover. It didn't last 2 months on his Rover. There is no money to be made by using waxes anymore other doing a full correction/polishing and laying this wax on a classic garage kept Ferrari but a waste of time on a daily driver.
Correct, a waste of time. No one, not Zymol or the Channel mentioned anything about this being recommended or suggested for use on a daily driver. This is a prestigious, 35-40 year old, concours level show car glaze that places traditional warmth, glow, clarity and depth over durability.
I wouldn’t go crazy expensive on the paste waxes, with Zymol here these bead water like crazy at the beginning but they will drop off quickly if you’re driving often. Better to start out with something like Zymol Carbon if it’s your first Zymol wax you’re thinking about getting. Otherwise there are a lot of other paste waxes that I like, Both Griots Best of Show and Premium Carnauba Paste Wax are great. I like Chemical Guys Pete’s 53, Meguiar’s Ultimate is also fantastic, Collinite 476S and 915 are durable options. Fusso Coat and Hi-Temp Paste Wax are durable options but I’m really looking forward to getting my hands on the newest Gyeon Wax, that one looks extremely promising.
Yeah there's no reason to spend such a high amount on a wax while expecting it to perform at an astronomically higher level. I'm a coating convert in terms of performance and durability, but not many things are more satisfying in detailing than pulling out a really nice paste wax and working everything by hand for me. Then taking a step back in the sun and seeing the depth of the gloss, magical and relaxing.
@@WaxMode the only benifit that a wax can provide is the masking effect on a lightly swirled car. And only draw back of a coated car is that coating wont accept any wax or glaze. No fillers or oiliness would be able to mask those fine swirls. It would buff right off. It is sort of a draw back specially for dark colored cars, with people who dont have time for full polishing and use a good old detailing spray/spray wax once a while. Otherwise there is no advantage of the glaze/wax/sealant stuff any more. Yes some prefer the "depth" of color as opposed to the gloss of the coating. But thats a personal taste. No amount of wax may it be whatever, deserves that price tag. Its just an oily/greasey substance sticking over your car vs a chemically bonded layer. Its like charging a premium price for a fancy mineral engine oil when synthetics exist that out perform in every way! They didnt even made any effort for the pot! Looks just like any other wax pot. Disappointing for the amount!
Bit of an impromptu video, wasn't planning on doing one but was curious in a water test after running the gloss measuring. Again, those interested in my gloss crusade can follow along at Autopia in my comprehensive gloss thread: www.autopia.org/forums/paint-correction-and-gloss-enhancement/191435-comprehensive-gloss-measurement-thread-waxmode-testing.html
More testing coming up!
Waxmode, could you do a comparison of correcting a panel without stripping it first VS. stripping and then correcting. I have a feeling that stripping before correcting is completely useless......Let’s see if my hypothesis is correct.....
I believe compound and a microfiber pad renders the whole stripping process pointless
@@TheTrueAdonis1 you are destroying yours pads with gunk, old waxes/sealants and accumulated dirt on them, make them harder to clean at the end and prolly permanent gunked
Definitely, I can try this with Fusso Coat. I think some LSP's can run interference with the polish more than others, and some don't need to be knocked down at all, just depends on what you're working with. If it happens, the polish is usually going to be uncharacteristically difficult to wipeoff and the finish left behind is not as clean looking. It might not mean much at all for the LSP that comes afterwards, as products don't necessarily require absolute cleanliness for performance.
Usually I will run Prep-All as my pre-polish wipe, or McKee's 37 Coating Prep Polish as a nonabrasive cleaner prior to polishing with abrasives on the test panel.
@@NikosPer I have never had an issue....
Great video and appreciate all the work going into the Autopia thread.
Thanks so much Adam!
The hydrophobics are super impressive.....unlike the price.
Great review! Zymol products were some of my favorite back in my good ole mobile detail days. 👍
I've got ~50 waxes collected - some well known for top end results.
Atlantique is just best in terms of looks. It hands on on the same panel / panel to panel, outcompeted everything. Period.
And it lasts well, keeps looks with washes.
Amazing stuff.
I've never seen any other products have those big beads like what i see from Zymol.
Soft99 fusso coat do better
The rare Meguiars #16 which I use on my VW GTI beads like a scared cat. One measly coat lasts over two months in the scorching hot Texas sun. Meguiars needs to bring that wax back. None of their newer waxes perform as long as #16.
@@largol33t1 wish i could find the no 16
The hydrophobic properties are unreal! Very cool to see this video and the info that you gave about coatings taking over the market like they have and basically phasing out product like this. Great video buddy!
Thanks MeanBee! So fun to get the hose out and see this type of behavior in action, mesmerizing! I was happy to see the market shift, coatings brought such a vastly greater durable performance and they overshadowed the mystique and draw of these top dollar waxes in my eyes. The market still found a way to build an exclusive style system with the influx of all of these professional-only or certified-only coatings, that I wish I could get my hands on to test!
But at least from a price to performance aspect, the clients are ending up with much better protection as opposed to just the hype of the insanely expensive waxes. I still want to get my hands on more Vintage, and find a sample of Royale to play around with!
Soft99 fusso coat is the best i seen ever
great review Loach , love all Zymol waxes especially Atlantique .
Thanks a bunch Maximilan! Always great to see you posting in here. So fun to work with these waxes, wish I had the full size jars, these 2oz samplers are terrible to dab the foam applicator in to load them up. You have any bad sweating issues with the waxes in your area? Ital sweats bad for me in particular.
I didn’t notice any sweeting issues in our hot climate but zymol HD cleanse can leave some residue and I must check and leave streaking which I need mist of water to remove it , Zymol Ital didn’t attract me I don’t think I will buy it again I did test before 3 months on black lexus I applied Zymol Creame, glasur , Destiny, Vintage and Atlantique and I love the look of Atlantique and Destiny I can tell the zymol Waxes Contains white carnuba 100% without the yellow it gives more clarity and reflection also I like the destiny and Royal reflect like p21s Concours but Atlantique still my #1 , if you like check my channel there is two old video before 9 years I did test for Concours and Glasur .
Btw about durability I can tell you 2 coats of Glasur last longer than Z Vintage .
Really appreciate the feedback! Your 2 months test of Concours is sheeting water like absolute magic still, that's awesome performance. Glasur I did get upwards of 2.5 months with one coat with decent remaining performance, not aggressive hydrophobics at that point but decent sheeting. Your Glasur video shows such amazing water performance I love seeing that in action! Concours I want to pull out next and play around with it more. You'll have to get some more videos up of your Zymol collection!
Very very fair and objective review, respect for that one!
Way to expensive but cool to see! Hydrophobic’s are amazing though. Could you wax an entire car or more with the 2 ounces? I need to get that water nozzle I really like the flood setting.
You can spread Zymol pretty far, should be able to get a few cars out of the 2oz sampler but you'd drive yourself nuts in the process. Loading the applicator through this small of a jar is absolutely terrible, triggers me beyond belief, which is probably why some guys are crazy enough to dish out the full amount for the 8oz jars!
Love it. I bought the same sample kit as well.
What a video and rundown. Appreciate this!
Hi after watching this video I just waxed my m5 with zymol glasur really like watching your channel
Thanks onkar, I really enjoy pulling out Glasur, I use it the most out of the rest of my Zymol waxes and was one of the first ones that I picked up in the lineup. What year M5 are you working on?
E39 m5
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This is my favorite wax, and I used in my 2 cars every month, but I recommend to you put HD cleanse from zymol first ,for complete bonding then the result is awesome
Zymol will always have a place on my detailing heart, I bought a bunch of their products when I first got into detailing and I still have my container of Carbon and Creame. They certainly smell the best and are wonderful in the short term but a few days cooking in the hot sun will cook most if not all of the protection off.
Definitely, Zymol can take a sizable hit in performance in the sun, one of the reasons why short term consecutive wash testing and strip wash testing are not accurate determinants of long term durability.
Soft99 fusso coat is the best on the market
@waxmode so i find that having a car cover for when your car is out of the garage or at work really does help the longevity of the waxes... in the California sun.... Really depends 3 months maybe without a car cover... Maybe 6 months to a year if it's garaged and covered outside during working hours... Depending how much it's driven.... I've seen zymol titanium last longer than 2 years on cars that haven't been driven and been garaged and been covered for long lengths of time.... It all depends... Nothing really beats the look of a their waxes... I love that you don't discount waxes.... Compared to coatings... Both have their places... I've also used somax cc36 ceramic coating love that too... It's infact amazing.... But I still go back to zymol
Once again, you never disappoint on the appropriateness of your video. This particular video was great in the fact you showcased that the normal weekend (aka "driveway") enthusiast such as myself does not need to spend a fortune on a wax to put onto a vehicle, even if that vehicle is a show car or Ferrari F40, in the rare event that someone like myself could even afford anything even remotely close to a level of vehicle like that...which ain't happenin'! Anyway, back to the point, yes, those initial hydrophobic's are some of the most impressive you've showcased on your channel. BUT, after a strip wash, BAM, yep, it's pretty much gone, showing that those expensive waxes aren't much better than Turtle Wax from a practical standpoint. Yes, they may look absolutely drop dead gorgeous on a car going to Pebble Beach for judging and appropriately so. That's a scenario where I would say, yes, 100% it would be worth using it. And you really wouldn't care about the price because I'm sure those jokers are paying 20 times that much or more to get their vehicles detailed for "the lawn at Pebble". But the most important thing I got from this video is I can buy a can of Fusso Coat for about $40 and get close to the level, or comparable level of hydrophobic's and my $40 worth of hydrophobic's will hold up for about a year with good maintenance washes and occasional top ups. OK, i'll pay the $40 and spend my other approximately $1575 on insurance, gas, and all my detailing products for a year on my Nissan 370Z that I got used, with super low miles, for a fantastic price, in almost new condition, and I only drive occasionally as my extra car. Great video bud. Keep up the impressive testing you do, it helps a bunch of us out here in the real world. Joe
Cheers Joe! Love those 370Z's, check out Car Cleaning Guru wash his Nismo on here if you haven't seen it yet, just a really cool looking car: th-cam.com/video/f-lu-Y4P8L0/w-d-xo.html
You're exactly right, the idea that you will get the kind of performance as a protectant like Fusso Coat, while spending $1,600 dollars on the wax is just not going to happen. For that kind of money I would expect the wax to add about a 1-2mil thick layer of impenetrable hydrophobic wizardry! Or perhaps guarantee the best of show award at Pebble Beach!
Zymol is a good wax, possibly a great wax, but it will never match the hydrophobic staying power of Fusso. This insane water behavior is quite short lived in the real world, although I am able to get upwards of 2-3 months of durability from Zymol, it does slow down significantly after a few weeks where Fusso is still quite the monster.
Again, always appreciate your comments and thoughts!
@@WaxMode I have seen Car Cleaning Guru's Nismo! I follow his channel also and he has some really great content as well. I actually looked at several Nismo 370z's but I couldn't pass on this one as it was 6 years old, in mint condition, with only 11,000 miles and almost HALF the price of the Nismo. I went with the 370Z Touring which is close to the Nismo in performance but doesn't have all the Nismo bits. The body style hasn't changed in FOREVER, but for the money, reliability of a Nissan, the horsepower in a fairly small car, and fun factor, it's really one of the best sports car deals on the market right now. And there is a ton of used ones out there so the deals are incredible.
One thing to note... is at least for waxes like zymol titanium you can re apply it to an already protected car assuming your paint doesn't need claying reapplying as maintenance is definitely easier than going through the whole process with hd-cleanse again. Titanium easily would last me at least 3-6 months in California even when I would leave the car outdoors during the mornings and nights and wiped down then under a car cover when at work still in the sun. Just make sure the detail spray you are using doesn't take away from the wax. Without the car cover though... I would say it cuts the durability to about 3ish months.... Which isn't bad at all for a wax that looks so good. I have also used Sonax CC36 and Sonax BSD and Sonax PNS.... Some times i would use sonax pns and then top it with zymol. Beading insantity....BEADSANITY... haha. I am really curious about the new HD-cleanse with Si02 in it... That being said... CC36 is fantastic... but nothing quite beats the Zymol Look. I've also seen cars that were covered in a garage that were Zymol'd before storage and amazingly the zymol will last years on cars in storage. 3 or 4 years later the car was still glowing and still beading...
IMO, the zymol's high-end wax is seek to extremely clarity in order to reveal the high-end car‘s perfect paint work rather than cloak it. Some lower-level wax is designated to cloak flaw on paint, which changed the sense of vision also.
It's tricky for sure. Wax clarity is one thing that the glossmeter will pick up on, any wax that provides a superior clarity will be able to maintain better gloss units on paint that has been polished to the highest level that abrasives can achieve without wetsanding. Atlantique will still reduce the measurable gloss rating on this panel compared to the post-abrasive step, and it's similar to other waxes in how much it will reduce the numbers. That's because the oils in the wax are at play which diffuse the light and this accounts for the lower measurable gloss. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing at all! The oils in the wax that aren't fully absorbed by the microfiber are possibly the main attribute in increasing paint depth, wetness, and richness.
Thing is, I don't miss Zymol Royale at all as Kamikaze Zipang can give the exact same finish.
I was reading up on the new ISM Coat 3.0, Kamikaze is definitely something I want to try out in the future, always heard great feedback from the guys on how good Zipang looks. Just need to break out the piggy bank!
Fantastic video man! The hydrophobics look almost fake... out of all the videos of yours I have watched this Zymol just looks unreal! I bought there car wash a looong time ago not knowing about the brand at all... absolutely LOVED it. Smells so good. Left the paint looking so great. Hey, I tried to order more Poorboys stripdown and couldn't find it on detailed image 🤔 that's where I got my last few bottles. Anywho, great video brother!✊✊
Update haha. Found stripdown at autogeek! Lol
Thanks Smurf! So addicting to see this type of beading and runoff! I haven't tried Zymol's car soap yet, I believe Turtle Wax was previously supplying their over-the-counter product line in the past. I want to pick up their Field Glaze in the future for sure. I'm not sure why Poorboy's haven't put Strip Down up on Amazon yet, but I believe I grabbed a gallon on Autogeek during their last 30% off sale, couldn't resist. But I'm burning through this stuff real quick with how much I'm dumping on the paint during these strip tests!
@@WaxMode ahhh ok I gotcha! I'm literally on Autogeeks site with a gallon in my cart but might wait for that discount.. I've got enough for one or maybe 2 more stripdowns left. You got me hooked... I can imagine the amount you go through with all your tests!!
@@WaxMode zymol was using the turtle wax distribution chain... And plant but it was still a zymol formula... From my understanding
I've tried so many different products over the years. Vehicles always look nice cleaned with them but only zymol has made my paint(and others) have a certain shine and insane beading. Would definitely use them more if my pockets were bigger
Interesting bro, so just buy zymol carbon?! I have glasur and love it. Im a old school waxer.. Not a huge fan of coatings and sealants.. Not therapeutic enough 😉
I'd go with Carbon over Glasur for the price, but I like Glasur better which I can't really quantify why that is!
@@WaxMode i know what you mean 😁 you can have all the stats and data in the world but some products, you just like
Which would add richness on black paint? Been looking at concours, or is that just expensive version of carbon?
A review of Ethos ceramic refresh please.😁
Got the Ceramic Refresh in! Currently working on a video for the latest batch of Ceramic Wax Pro, so I should have some footage of Ceramic Refresh afterwards.
Any difference with the latest batch of ceramic pro? I know a bad batch floated around a little while ago. How would you know if I have a bottle from the bad batch, durability I guess? Luckily I have a bit of a garage Queen so not too concerned about longevity. It gives a ridiculous shine and gloss though. Ethos is underrated.👍
All fresh wax coats are hard to knock down. The meter is 1 or 2 months later.
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I have tried Sonax BSD over Zymol Creame after curing time it makes Zymol become super hydrophobic.
I can imagine that would be like hydrophobic Inception, beads within a bead within a bead haha!
Wow, really good water behaviour out of that wax. 👍
Have you ever tried any of the waxes on offer from swissvax?
I never snagged up any of the Swissvax waxes, but I've come close a few times. That was the big battle back in the day between Vintage, Royale, and Swissvax Divine. Would like to get my hands on at least one Swissvax wax in the future.
@@WaxMode that'd be good! Ive only tried two of their waxes, samurai and concorso. Decent waxes, easy wipe off and fair durability for a carnauba.
@@James-pk4jf worth the $$$?
@@mikeprice8307 hmmm.... Id say not, but theyre nice to use, more of a novelty really
Hey, you ever heard of Zymol Field Glaze? I just came across it by chance on Detailing.com website and was wondering if you had any experience with it? It is a spray wax. Looks to be a topper or "in between" waxing type product. I just wondered if it was any good or how easy it was to use, apply and remove. The description I found says: -Naturally Derived Product---21% mixture of Florida Carnauba Sap and Purified Spring Water---Pure Coconut and Avocado Oils---Enjoy the spray wax that Aston Martin uses at their factory.
Hey Joe! No I actually never picked up Field Glaze, but I have heard some good reviews for it. Nothing super special, there’s a lot of products now in this spray on category that can compete with one another.
I still really like Polish Angel Rapidwaxx as a regular protectant and spray wax to work with if I want to use something special. If not then Ultimate Quik Wax or Hybrid Ceramic Detailer would get the most use from me after washings.
the agitation test was interesting to me. you typically dont see much of that in the TH-cam test market
Apex details channel shows it regularly
I have been using Zymol Concours for over thirty years and the products are amazing. The water beading only lasts three to four weeks but I have seen the product stay on the paint for almost six months. I wonder how Zymol performs as a topper for a ceramic?
Concours definitely feels a bit unique to me compared to the rest of the Zymol lineup, bit different texture to it, much different scent as well. Great wax. As far as topping a full ceramic coating like CQUK 3.0, I wouldn't recommend it. The wax can clog the coating up and since it's a heavier product, once the wax degrades you're going to lose that awesome hydrophobic property that the coating provides by itself. On a coating much more weathered I most likely wouldn't mind topping that with a wax, but that wouldn't be my preference on a fresh or a healthier paint coating.
WaxMode thank you so much for your advice. I’m curious to see Zymol’s big announcement July 3rd since they keep showing graphic on their web page.
I have the exact collection of zymol waxes, haven’t try Atlantic yet. How is the hd cleanser ? Did you had problems in application? I use a damp applicator makes the wipe off much easier
Very cool to hear, I'm getting ready to pull my sample of Concours out to play around with soon. HD Cleanser is definitely on the heavier side, like you said I also like to use that damp towel for the wipeoff, otherwise I'll be buffing for quite some time to get it to level down to where I want it with just a dry microfiber. Smells great though, surface feels smooth afterwards. What's your favorite wax out of the lineup that you've tried so far?
WaxMode Glasur is the best overall
If the price isn’t a factor I would say destiny
The only one that I didn’t like is itali
How do these luxury waxes stack up in this day and age of ceramic coating? And why on earth does everyone tell you to never apply a Carnuba wax onto of a ceramic coating? What's the crime in doing so?
The hydrophobic is crazy 😦
Cool video. Never heard of this brand before. But it was nice to see the flood of water fly off in a satisfying manner. So it appears they have less expensive waxes and then the super high end you were speaking of?
Hey Jason! Yes Zymol's Carbon and Creame are their entry waxes between $40-60, and pretty similar in terms of performance to their higher priced options to be honest.
WaxMode awesome thanks man. I’m going to give it a try and I’ll let you know. Are these just spread with a pad vs machine?
@@jaykid007 I usually apply with a foam applicator by hand, I'll put on about enough to cover half of this hood and then begin buffing off, I wouldn't wait more than a few minutes of allowing this to dry before buffing off. These 8oz jar tops can also be annoying to get the threads to screw back onto the jar as well, bit of a nuisance until you figure it out. Love to hear what you think!
Price is way to high to use for a professional setting. Other then that its cool
LOL I’m retired I can’t afford that stuff .... I have a question tho ... Fusso soft 99 ... from all video’s I’ve seen it’s pretty good stuff ... if I were to use it ... must think it’s a sealant ..either way could or can I put a topper on it and if so what would you use?
I have 3 cans of the Fusso soft 99. Enough for the rest of my life. Prep the car wash clay correct. Wipe down 50/50 alcohol & water. Put Fusso on as thin as possible. Work small sections don’t let it sit to long it’s a pain if it completely dries to buff off. Wait 24 hrs when done and you can top it off with anything. The turtle wax seal & shine works great & you can stack coats on top. Fusso with 2 coats by itself easily last 8 months. With occasional toppers it will for sure last a year. Hands down the longest sealant I have ever used. It’s not a gloss enhancer so the topper you use will bring out that gloss. The topper also protects the Fusso. One thing about the Fusso keep it off your plastics. If you get it on the plastic just remove it right away. Also not recommended for your plastic headlights. Seal & Shine works well for that. No need to pay 2 grand for a wax. That’s just insane !
What's your go-to "affordable" show car wax? $100 or less
I still think S100 paste wax is a great value and looks great on the paint, just smells musty. Pinnacle Souveran might not have the fresh hydrophobics of Zymol, but I think it can easily compete on how it makes the paint look, and I've never had sweating issues with it and is a bit easier to apply and remove.
Now what wax would you say is the best I have a black Lexus
Too hard to pick a best wax, some are better at protecting and some are easier and more fun to work with and deliver a showcar glow. If protection is your focus, look into Griot’s latest Ceramic 3-In-1 Wax which is a spray formula, I’ve gotten excellent durability out of it.
If you’re looking for a great showcar wax, Pinnacle Souveran is hard to beat, but not very durable. Zymol Glasur is another great paste wax, better durability than Souveran, not quite as easy to use but great shine and depth.
How long did you wait between coats?
About 15-20 minutes between coats.
Who will sheets faster Zymol wax or Soft99 fusso coat ?
Really close to identical hydrophobics in the very short term, but Zymol after a few weeks really dies out, whereas Fusso will keep up much better.
I applied Soft 99 light new formula yesterday, yes it looks identical zymol win in Application and removal but as you said Fusso looks will last longer and slightly looks faster or what I can say ? It looks stronger !
Nice review. I've come to realize chemical resistance has nothing to do with real world durability. Wolfgang Spray Coating is a prime example.
Thanks Mark! I would agree, I don't think I can get very much insight into the long term durability of the products without putting them through a durability test on one of the daily drivers. Wolfgang Spray Coating I applied an additional coat to the right half of the front bumper so I'm checking to see if this strengthens the long term hydrophobic durability compared to the single coat application.
WaxMode your real world tests are golden.
Where did you buy those little ones at ?
You can snag them up directly from Zymol, they've got three options: www.zymol.com/samplerkit.aspx
@@WaxMode thanks
Are you voice Overing this video? It sounds really nice! What mic are you using?!?
Hey Hank! Yes I voiceover using the mic on the Apple corded EarPods that come standard with the phones. I edit on the phone with iMovie.
WaxMode wow!!! I have both those. I use my Mac and never get this nice Audio thanks.
Hank's Detailing I remember when I was using my Mac with the standard jack plug EarPods for voiceover, the mic wasn’t nearly as good as the mic on the EarPods with the lightning port on the phone. Wasn’t sure if this was iOS iMovie related or if they really boosted the mic on the lightning EarPods, but this was one of the prime reasons I switched to editing voiceover with my phone.
WaxMode good to know!! I may plug in my lightning earphones. Record on the audio recording app and import that into iMovie
I guess that's the best Wax you Can by
I used to spend ALOT of money on glaze & wax. Not anymore, old technology.
Would be a great wax if they dropped a 0 at the end of the price.
They need to drop two zeros off the price, then I’ll be happy!
Hazing? I called it Ghosting. Happens when I wax over a glaze.
Right, sweating/ghosting/hazing, Ital does this significantly in this heat which is a shame because it goes on so well and looks fantastic on the paint beforehand.
People used to laugh at Turtlewax and NuFinish until they saw testing.
I always had durable results out of the Ice Paste Wax on the blue Honda, great hydrophobics. Ice Spray Wax was another fantastic topper and maintenance product. Loved their Endura-Shine products before they were discontinued, their Express Shine Carnauba Cleaner Spray Wax I've also seen perform some magic on lightly oxidized paint. Turtle Wax had some great products before the Seal N Shine frenzy in my opinion, which is funny because I'm not crazy about SNS.
NuFinish though I could never get along with it. I've see it be very durable in Scott H's testing, but on the Honda daily driver that paint hated NuFinish and the hydrophobics didn't last beyond a few weeks. Shows that beyond prepwork, the paint type can have a major impact in long term durability.
K Dog, that sample kit is up to $665 now. Yikes
The Atlantique, Vintage, and Royale sample kit is $665, I picked up the Concours, Destiny, and Atlantique kit for $221 and I snagged a 1oz sample of Vintage along the way from another detailer.
@@WaxMode Yep, my bad. No price increase.
Those hydrophobics are probably the best I've ever seen out of any product. But it isn't worth that price lol.
Soft99 is better fusso coat
Soft99 is wayyy better never will pay 1600 for it great video buddy tfs
Thanks for watching ONR, always good to see you in the comments!
Gimmick waxes, Graphene is the future, for now of course.
What are you flushing it with? That can't be water. My piss isn't even that yellow.
Surely no wax is good enough to run that cost..
I'LL stick to turtle wax , save my money and buy a corvette !
Gimme 160 bottles of Seal N Shine instead lol
wait, what, $1600? 🤣🤣 After consideration of about 1 second I'm gonna go with "no."
@@catguy64 You and me both! lol
That's a ton of Seal N Shine! The case for Vintage years ago was under $2,000 and I was close to picking that up. With as much as I've spent over the years just to try different products out I could have probably picked up a lifetime supply of Royale!
Do you have Instagram account?
I'm rarely on Instagram, I only have a few pictures posted which I really need to ramp up and start posting some more on that platform. waxmode_detailing is my username on Instagram, you can check out my Flickr photostream over here: www.flickr.com/photos/133492933@N03/
What Zymol phone number
Ridiculous. Waxes begin to degrade/vaporize at about 105 degrees surface temperature which is about 85 degrees air temperature.
Some waxes are going to be more sensitive to heat. But I've had Glasur easily last 2.5 months on the daily driver in the Florida summer before removing it to test other products, surface temperatures in the 170°+F range.
That is ridiculously overpriced but MAN, will ya look at those beads?
Soft99 is great to fusso coat
Smurf first!!!!
Taco FTW!
@@WaxMode 🌮✊
Taco first!!
Looks like CGI, its crazy
I love switching to the flood setting on the nozzle and just letting the water flood and collect all of the beading right off the paint. Looks so smooth on a crazy hydrophobic surface.
Anybody paying $1600 for a bottle of wax needs to seek psychiatric help.
Haha! I need more psychiatric help for amassing this amount of waxes in my collection, trust me. One too many sniffs of the Collinite.
I've used a Zymol $2500 wax on a client's Range Rover. It didn't last 2 months on his Rover. There is no money to be made by using waxes anymore other doing a full correction/polishing and laying this wax on a classic garage kept Ferrari but a waste of time on a daily driver.
Correct, a waste of time. No one, not Zymol or the Channel mentioned anything about this being recommended or suggested for use on a daily driver. This is a prestigious, 35-40 year old, concours level show car glaze that places traditional warmth, glow, clarity and depth over durability.
any better wax then that
I wouldn’t go crazy expensive on the paste waxes, with Zymol here these bead water like crazy at the beginning but they will drop off quickly if you’re driving often. Better to start out with something like Zymol Carbon if it’s your first Zymol wax you’re thinking about getting.
Otherwise there are a lot of other paste waxes that I like, Both Griots Best of Show and Premium Carnauba Paste Wax are great. I like Chemical Guys Pete’s 53, Meguiar’s Ultimate is also fantastic, Collinite 476S and 915 are durable options. Fusso Coat and Hi-Temp Paste Wax are durable options but I’m really looking forward to getting my hands on the newest Gyeon Wax, that one looks extremely promising.
Gimmie a break with this wax. Impressive of course but the price is just stupid. Fusso is just as good.
lol $1600 wax? Sorry, but that's just silly
Total waste of money!
After paint coatings, waxes amd sealants are obsolete.
Yeah there's no reason to spend such a high amount on a wax while expecting it to perform at an astronomically higher level. I'm a coating convert in terms of performance and durability, but not many things are more satisfying in detailing than pulling out a really nice paste wax and working everything by hand for me. Then taking a step back in the sun and seeing the depth of the gloss, magical and relaxing.
@@WaxMode the only benifit that a wax can provide is the masking effect on a lightly swirled car.
And only draw back of a coated car is that coating wont accept any wax or glaze. No fillers or oiliness would be able to mask those fine swirls. It would buff right off. It is sort of a draw back specially for dark colored cars, with people who dont have time for full polishing and use a good old detailing spray/spray wax once a while. Otherwise there is no advantage of the glaze/wax/sealant stuff any more.
Yes some prefer the "depth" of color as opposed to the gloss of the coating. But thats a personal taste.
No amount of wax may it be whatever, deserves that price tag. Its just an oily/greasey substance sticking over your car vs a chemically bonded layer.
Its like charging a premium price for a fancy mineral engine oil when synthetics exist that out perform in every way!
They didnt even made any effort for the pot! Looks just like any other wax pot. Disappointing for the amount!
@@umarc9767 try soft99 Fusso coat best ever