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- We have the longest range version of the ID.4 in for our standardized 70-mph highway loop-style #EV range test! It's a hot day, there's some wind, but overall this is a solid test of a very solid offering. #VW #ID4
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So far my ID.4 Pro S I've had now for 2 months continues to amaze me. Makes for easy passes on rural and interstate highways. Quiet as a church mouse on the road. The seats are so far the best I'd run across and most certainly superior to the Mach-E and Tesla's. Sat in both those and they don't compare. I've not had any glitches with the Infotainment as some reported early on. The OTA update will likely still be a good thing. On the interstate at 85mph it's like you're in a space ship. Smooth and quiet.
I've been telling ppl ..that interior is top class. Tesla can't match it at all and they have the same range
What is your 100% guesstinated range after using it for several months now? I have a Model S 75kwh switching to Pro S in october. I get appr 215 miles of guesstimated range after 4.5 yeara of use
Rwd or awd?
Thanks for championing the ID4, Kyle! We traded in out 2019 Tiguan 9 months early for the ID4 Pro. 3yr lease with 3yrs of free charging was a no brainer. Watched all your ID4 coverage before getting ours. Thanks again!
Thanks for putting this out. Can’t wait for you to do it with the AWD when you get your hands on it later this year.
It's about time to do a new range test with the 2024 Pro S AWD. Thanks for what you folks do!
Thank you for the compliment!
Great video! And that storm looked amazing!
Thanks for testing a basic model. I know between model tiers they usually have different EPA range. I took ownership of a ID.4 Pro 2 weeks ago. I’m always amazing when I get in and go.
Omg. This was perfect timing. I’m going to Vegas soooon from Orange County.
Another awesome video thanks!
230 miles not bad for 70 miles per hour. I just locked in my order for this exact car.
Interesting. I got the FE with bigger wheels to 234, but with more varied speed. Most of it >70mph. We need to do these tests in a Hyperloop. But without the vacumn.
Do 65, still a reasonable speed most places, can eek out more range
Really appreciate getting to see reviews of the base Pro version of the ID.4. I’ve reserved a Pro AWD model. Estimated delivery isn’t until April 2022 so I’m still evaluating the options.
Maybe delivered from Tennessee factory?
You mean April 2022.
@@UnCannyValley67 yes I did
Love ID.4💖
I don’t understand how they can engineer a car to drive off of an electric battery but can’t figure out that piano black is the worst thing to use for touch surfaces.
It showed 3.0 mi/kW when he pulled into the charging station. Driven 229 miles. Pretty good for an average speed of 65 mph.
It's crazy to think this is 15k less than the model Y...
11:35 if you just want to see the result: 229 miles.
I have an AWD Pro S on order… supposed to be delivered between September and October this year. I can’t wait 😸
@Andy Kainz I'm wondering is it going to look the same as the European coupe model Id.5 or like this version ID.4?🥴 I know it says on the website ID.4... I just like the European versions taillights the rest of the ID.4 can stay the same.🤔👍
@@MsKewi-NYC I think you’ll be a little disappointed then, due to FMVSS regulations, we can’t get the cool taillights, OR the fancy matrix headlights that only dip where oncoming traffic is… thanks to regulations created in (at best) the 60s I think? Plus, it’ll look like the ID4 from Europe.I don’t think we’re getting the ID5 yet, though the Audi Q4 e-tron comes in the “coupe”/fastback style.
This color is really growing on me. Love the base, just wish you could spec it with a glass roof. With market being as crazy as it is right, considering trading in my Model Y lease early and walking away with a $8-10K check. Then turning around an possible getting an ID.4 AWD.
Awesome range from the ID4. Realistically we only use 90% of battery before recharging. So, its 0.9*230=207mi which translates to 2hr45min of highway driving.
These videos do good public service to let us know the actual highway range - because the carmakers don’t tell us. This is going to be a problem with EV adoption among the “normals” and not us EV nerds who watch Kyle’s videos. Last weekend I was talking with new ID.4 owners who had taken theirs on a trip. I asked how they did with highway range and they just laughed and said “a lot less than 260.” Car buyers are used to getting BETTER range on the highway. No one tells them they’re going to lose 15% range even going under the speed limit. That’s not too bad when leaving with a 100% charge, but on the second or third leg of the trip after charging to 80%, your 260 mile car is now 180 miles (if you don’t mind running it under 10%). 180 miles is 3 hours of driving, but with most EVs not starting from a 260 mile point, it’ll be less. I know the EPA lists separate city and highway MPGe, but the highway range should also be prominently featured along with the advertised city range.
We have the same color (moonstone grey), but with 21" and a glass roof and a head pump.
This vacation we took it to Italy. No problem what so ever except that we got a flat rear tire, and as the tire is a run flat self sealing our ID4 did not have the "foam" and airpump to fix the tire.
The flat tire happened on a Friday night, and every pump station was closed and no air pumps.
The tire was also to much damaged to self seal, so we needed a new 21" tire. No way in hell to get this tire easily in Italy ended up buying a new (Pirelli) tire to get back home to the Netherlands (about 1500 km drive).
Anyway, The car performed great, and even better in the mountains !
I'm still waiting to test drive the Volkswagen ID.4
Thanks 🙏🏾
My DREAM CAR....🙏🙏🙏
I just bought the id.4 pro because i needed the most range. And will drive on b mode. The reason why is because i love Volkswagen i love gasoline vehicles BUTTT i think we need to be honest with everyone. Alot of lower class people or people who struggle drive cars that ruin air quality. I live in CA and i see it. So people who are struggling need to switch to the ev's. But middle class and up usually get smog checks. And our gas vehicles won't ruin the earth. However im still gettin this car. And hopefully hydrogen cars are next
What kind of winter range can be expected? How many kWh did it consume?
I wonder if the brake lights behave the same way while in B mode and cruise control is on. What I mean is with my foot off the accelerator aka "gas" pedal while in cruise control and the car is in constant speed in B mode, will the break lights be always off? Is it alright to be in B mode constantly while in cruise control?
how does the rwd do in snow? living in colorado its scary to think of rwd
It was 3.0 mi/kWh on the screen just before plug-in to recharge.
I ordered the exact car.
It can't be in the mid 3 range for mi/kWh. It's showing 3.0mi/kWh at th-cam.com/video/PkCKpwQdmdg/w-d-xo.html before the final charge
82 kwh battery should be 74 kwh usable. With 229 mile range, that is a little less than 3.1 mile per kWh, which fits with the readout of 3.0 miles per kWh.
I wonder how it would be with 4 people and luggage for a road trip with some hills to climb, A/C on high and 75 mph. That's real world in a trip to Las Vegas from Los Angeles in the summer time. Might be a little sketchy.
You forgot the Dog and the kitchen sink.
Lots of chargers on the way
Well I bought the car and drove it from Santa Clarita California to Las Vegas. Three adults, luggage and outside air temp of 95 degrees. Ran A/C set at 70 degrees. Had range anxiety the night before. Left with full charger got to Barstow with 39% left on the battery. Charged up to 80% which took 17 minutes. Drove to Baker and top off to 80% which took another 17 minutes and proceeded to Las Vegas. 100% easy. Really enjoyed the drive and very happy with my purchase. Had the cruise control set at 75 mph.
@@Matt-pj3ue Thanks for the real world update. Can't wait to see the AWD version ID.4 and how that performs. 🙂👍
Does the passenger seat go up and down? Do you feel like the lumbar support is missing?
I don't think the Pro version with the cloth seats has lumbar. I am pretty sure it goes up and and down. I can confirm that they are very comfortable and the owner I know doesn't miss lumbar.
I typically cross a 250 mile "dry" stretch with no charging in order to visit my daughter in Flagstaff. How is the range at 55 mph? i.e. what is the electric motor efficiency curve looking like?
my range estimate in recent weeks have reached 300+ miles, based on my driving style of feathery pedal effort and usually under 60 mph on interstate. naturally, the estimate after 100% charging does not account for ac usage. So getting 250 miles should not be a problem except going uphill on snowy days.
My next door neighbor bought one a month ago. Hit a deer 10 days after he bought it and the dealer didn't have any parts in stock since it so new. It's his first EV and is having a bit of range anxiety. He's an engineer so he's always in the "what if" mode. I.E. What if I have an emergency and just got home and don't have enough charge or some such thing. I figure he'll get over it after a while. That being said, this will probably be the EV I get (Pro S AWD) if the Ioniq5 is out of my price range.
Oh no! That anxiety makes sense. Did he ever get over it?
@@aangitano he did and I wound up with a Polestar 2
No one's gonna talk about you going 5 mile under speed limit? Ideally the test should be at 80mph.. atleast 5 over the speed limit.
Only some places would the speed limit be so high.. 70mph is a good compromise over various regions.
I wouldn't say it's Earth-shattering either. Our '22 Kona Electric got 4.6 mils / kWh on a recent road trip Jersey to Maryland (about 230 miles each way). I think it might go 280 miles on a charge, well over the 258 EPA estimate of 258. It's a range monster.
But it's a kona though. Small car
So in my country the highway speed limit is 140km/h witch is about 85-86 mp/h and I am very interested in the range with those kinds if speeds.
Cool - in Ireland the max is only 120km/h even though the motorways have design speeds of 160km/h.
Croatia here. Driving 130-140 is a must if tou dont want to be behind trucks all the time.
Did you just plug and start charging or did you have to go thru your app?
Would love to buy a pro but for some odd reason VW has decided not to make any. There hasn’t been any in stock within 200 miles of me in over a month.
Isn’t the Route One Mach-E about 50k, not 20,000 more than the 40k ID.4?
Has anyone done an ev range test simulating a family trip ? Multiple people and luggage weight? That's a pretty important test, not everyone road trips alone and that will definitely affect the range correct?
Take the total distance traveled and divide by usable battery amount. Simple mathematics.
At the 10:39 time mark it's showing 311 miles since Start and he drove 5:24 hours. Wouldn't that be the actual distance for the range test?
Since Start is intended for start of a trip, so it would include driving prior to stopping to charge. It resets automatically after not driving the vehicle for some time, though I'm not sure what that threshold is.
Official WLTP is 520km (323mi) for this model, realistic range should be around 410km (254mi). I guess that's only when you stay off the highway... Have to say that 368km (229mi) is still quite disappointing, especially since the fastest charge rate of this model is 135kW and you will never drive it from 100% to 0%, so realistic range will be more around 300km (186mi).
I'm reconsidering ordering this, but I guess there's really no alternatives in this price range if you want this kind of space and an electric vehicle.
The plug-in Hyundai Tucson suddenly became more interesting but unfortunately I can't even order one because they are no longer taking orders where I live (same for the Ioniq 5).
Great test. Going fwd, could you keep it in the default normal mode. Most owners will rarely ever switch to eco mode in real life.
Doubt it matters at all for steady state driving, but fair point.
I drive my i3 in Eco pro and Eco pro + all the time because if I drive it in comfort mode it's quite darty and I've accidently gotten a speeding ticket because I was driving in comfort mode.
Drive both our tesla in chill and wife's id4 in eco all the time. Plenty of power for the commute and slow 60mph freeway and 35-45 rural road speed limits
So if the car stops in the parking lot can you put it in neutral and push it over to the charger?
I doubt it. EVs are MUCH heavier than an ICE vehicle. This is a 4000+lb vehicle, I think.
Sure can. Just have Dewayne Johnson as your helper.
229 miles divided by 77 kWh (useable) = 2.97 miles/kWh. Not great but not too bad.
It would be nice to tell people that out of the 254 miles on a full charge you got 229 miles or a difference of 25 miles.
I don't know why it is that you can't simply say that.
Now according to the recent website now I think they say the car has 275 miles, But they have about a billion different versions and batteriesaybe so you really can't know specifically what the exact range is.
so much better value compared to the mach e, much faster charging speed, more efficient, more range compared to the base mach e, cheaper, and 3 free years of charging. The only problem is I like the styling and interior of Mach e a lot better and I own a Ford Fusion hybrid right now that I love so I'm really torn.
Believe Kyle misspoke. The MME Ca Rte 1 is 10k more not 20,0000.
@@jeffg9612 I'm not talking about the rte 1, the base battery is still a few thousand dollars more than the id4 pro and still charges slower
The Mach-e has a different driving experience, its a lot more sportier and handles better. Also, I think the overall build quality in the Mach-e is better.. The iD.4 has a lot of different variants besides the base model shown in this video. Test drive both cars and see which one suits you.
Isn't this BYD Tang?
I'm not a fast driver by any means. What would the ID.4 average at 55 to 60 mph? Thank you.
12:08 Why would the miles/KWh value change by being parked?
They are just talking without making amy sense.
I have own my ID4 since March of 2021 and I live in San Diego CA, the charge on my car can never go above 230 miles on the display at 100% charge... typically 220-227 depend on a hot day or not. I have taken this car into dealerships so many time it equates to about 25% of its life on various problems related to hardware faults and software faults. To stay on subject, we found out that the distance calculations software within the ID4 uses historical driving habits to determine estimated range the vehicle can reach and displays that number to the driver. However, if a new driver ever purchased this car from us in the future there is no way to determine if the battery has any reduced battery capacity. We asked our dealership if we can erase historical driving pattern data to determine if the battery has reduced it capacity and they informed me that there is no way to perform this action. This is a beautiful car but I would not recommend this car to anyone unless they have purchase warranties to cover the constant fault we have in our car. Like one guy once tried to convince me... why do you want to have a reliable car if you have 100% warranty to cover problems.
3 miles per kWh isn't bad for a heavy SUV. Good bang for your buck, for sure!
My next car once chip issues work out
What chip issues? There are hundreds of iD.4' at dealerships waiting for buyers..
@@mamadouaziza2536 at full MSRP? Nah I'm good 😂
@@marcusrose5943
$9500 tax credits.. No one is paying full price, this car is not a run away hit.
1:40 the charge pole has been blocked by non electric shopping carts. ;-)
Why wasn't B selected instead of D?
The theory is its more efficient to coast than use B mode. I haven't tried it myself.
@@Demobot1 That would be a good test to check the theory
@@1winlock Go ahead and suggest it.
Coasting is always more efficient than regen. There is always a loss with regen then reaccelerate. But when you have to brake sure regen is better than using the brakes.
Pro with 229mi range is crap isn't it? I thought the pro has a 77kwh usable battery???
Shouldn't you be calculating efficiency manually? It's just miles travelled divided by battery capacity (KWh used).
230 / 77 = 2.987 not bad for a constant 70 mph run. So, 3.4 for an overall efficiency is reasonable
@@tonys9413 So the car wasn't off it said 3.0kwh the whole time. Not bad.🙂👍
no...not hard to say...it was frickin showing 3.0miles/kwh for the entire frickin trip
FWY 80mile speed, Show 2.9 m/kwh, Pros only can drive 170 miles., who will drive 65 mile Hwy?
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Only getting 230 on a car that’s specs at 260 kinda sucks.
Maybe if he did a test with half the miles on the highway and half around town, he would have hit those numbers.
It is just like gas powered cars in that respect.
all i see is $46,000 NOTHING $39000
The ID4 "standard" model with a smaller battery and 50 miles less range is $39,000. He got the price of the "Pro" he is testing wrong.
ID4 PRO is $45,000. Base Standard model with 50 less miles of range is $39,000. They did not display miles since charge at 25% or 10% remaining, come on guys be consistant! You said you would update us every 25% of battery drain but..... thanks for the video anyway!
Hey bro I swear I love your video I wish one day I could see you and invite you for dinner with your girlfriend
Thats very kind of you. A greyhound and a squirrel would have nothing sincere in the elevated nectar obfuscation though.
The Mach E is a superior car to the ID 4 POS:)
I have 0 faith in anything Ford.....sorry
Got it. According to Matthew, the Mach E is a superior car. Glad you solved this for the rest of the internet.
What an ugly color!
Hello, I have a fire in my first Volkswagen ID.4 Cruze 2022, used for two weeks only, due to a manufacturing defect
The car was put on the charger for three hours, and then it started burning from the inside of the back of the car, this was the fifth charge
The manufacturing defect was proven by civil protection reports and technical and engineering reports.
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