Being an avid detailer and a Plastic injection moulding engineer, I wish to give you my opinion on Chinese made tooling. I have worked in the business for over 32 years and with Chinese toolmakers for 20 years and after several visits to there facilities I can categorically tell you now that they will engineer anything to whatever level you specify. They are head and shoulders above anyone else in the world. So just because you see it's made in China, do not assume it's substandard because they work to whatever quality of work you tell them to.
Spot on. You can make an item to a price or build it to a quality standard, the choice is with the company that wants them manufactured it has nothing to do with it being Chinese per se
the winning lance is chinese and seems pretty good quality to me, but what you say makes sense. but I do also think theres a reputation with chinese and cheap and substandard quality and also copying thats perhaps earnt to some extent.
@@mctend9108 . That would be down to misled politics and sour grapes rather than the quality of British goods. We have the toughest guidelines in the world when it comes to manufacturing so British made goods are one of the best in the world.
@@jasonphillips3865 yeah we are not very popular with Europe are we, I wonder why! A tiny little island, the most successful nation in the history of mankind, almost the entire planet speaks our language and those that don't wish they could, let's not even get into a discussion about it, it's futile.
Thanks for including us in the review Jon. We appreciate your feedback! As always, we watch these videos for opinions and to help us improve in the future. We add Loctite on the top fitting to stop the bottle from unscrewing, for those who have our lance.
I went for MJJC as an upgrade to my old Ali type cannon that came second. Got to say it was a close call between the MJJC and your own offering. The reason I went for the MJJC was the price including next day delivery on Amazon. I think I'll defo add yours to the collection next, if you can get the fan stream issue corrected. It's a lovely looking unit and seems to perform well.
Thanks for featuring the 'Mini-Lance' Jon! I think it's a good starter lance as it's simple for newbies to use, or a backup like you say. Another main thing we get, is people using it to apply coatings, as it seems to be quick and simple for that scenario. Plus wallet friendly. If anyone is wondering, you can change/clean the mesh on them, but the orifice or the quick connect aren't removeable. If anyone's interested we also do cannons similar to the Autoglym/Angelwax one, as well as spare bottles.
If it's the same as the one on ali for 4quid, then the orifice is a 1.1 and causes pulsating on some machines. I had to drill mine out to 1.25mm to stop it being a problem. The top is also very loose as it's a kind of bayonet fitting over a typical screw. I use mine with Garage Therapy one wheel shampoo now as it's not good enough to produce a decent foam for prewash.
@@DetailingandtheBeast it's possible they're from the same supplier but I can't say 100% as there's often minor differences between them. Not had any reports of pulsating so far, nor issues with the bayonet top, and we've sold 100+ so that's a good sign. They definitely have their uses, I'm just always surprised when people think they'll get the same performance from an £8 cannon as a £30 one.
Always love the detail and scientific fact based approach you take. Incredible detail and information for anyone from the novice to the expert to make a purchase have decision.
Thank you for this. I’ve been running a standard Karcher Lance for over a year now and since upgrading to a K4 Power Control I’ve been wanting to up my foam game. Just purchased the MJJC Pro upon watching this. Can’t wait to use it 😆
This was a great review Jon. Thanks for taking the time to obtain and review all these. It might be the most thorough review and testing of various snow foam lances ever done on TH-cam. I do love the LOOK of that Carbon Collective one. As far as looks, it wins hands down. And I also really like the looks of the Angelwax one in the gold color. That one just looks really good. I'd really like to get a hold of one of those Dr. Dirt bottle but those are hard to find and almost impossible to get here in the USA. I just bought the Griot's Garage BOSS Foam Cannon Kit. That thing is incredible. The best feature is the fact I can hook up Griots three different foaming chemical bottles directly to the lance. It has this unique double thread system which has both a wide mouth bottle AND a smaller thread inside that allows you to hook the product bottles right to the lance. Then they have the metering tips so you don't even have to mix up your product which I love. It distributes the proper amount automatically without mixing. It's got that same pick up tube that the MJJC Pro Cannon has but you put these small tips into the small metal ball and that's how the product get's metered. And they give you three different tips so you can go light, regular, or heavy dilution ratios. Griot's did all the work figuring out the mixing ratios for you with the metering tips. It is a brilliant design and produces really good foam. I also have the little Karcher foam lance made by Karcher and for what it is, it is decent. It's definitely not on the level of the higher end ones you reviewed here, but it does get the job done. That bit at 18:40 was hilarious. Dr. Jon........The PHD of detailing!
that griot one looks great actually. just cant get it in the UK right now. the problem will be the price tag. in the USA lances are a bit more expensive, so if this does hit the UK Im wondering if its gonna be like 80-90 quid. And no one will buy it at that price. hope they can get it over here and get the price down.
@@ForensicDetailing Yeah, that is the downside to the Griots BOSS Foam Cannon. It's very PRICEY. Even here in the USA I think it is the most expensive one. Fortunately I got it as a birthday gift from my wife! LOL. It's fairly popular over here, but, really, only enthusiast's or people with more money than brains buy it! Your everyday weekend warrior probably isn't going to buy it. The MTM Foam cannon is very popular here and has a loyal "cult following" The MJJC Pro is taking off and is a very popular one now. That does look like a great foam lance for the price. The only reason I got the Griot's was for the self metering tips and use of their 3 foaming soaps/sealants that are specific to it. A friend of mine turned me onto it so I caved and asked my wife for one for my birthday. The deal actually wasn't too bad. It was $165 US for the "KIT" but included the Foam Cannon, an extra replacement filter, metering tips, all three chemicals for it, and their large PFM drying towel. The internals are all stainless steel so that's a plus to help on longevity. Overall it's up there with the MTM or MJJC I would say. Thanks again for the review and test.
i like the idea of the Blitz because i have the tendancy to fill the entire thing up with water and it reduces the concentration it spits out...this is a good way to regulate it.
Greetings ftom the States. I’m enjoying all of your videos. I have the MTM cannon, and it is quite tippy. I didn’t realize there was an alternate flask until watching this video. Ordering it today. Thank you for all your work, Jim
Thanks for another great review. I bought the MJJC Pro last year during lockdown after watching a foam canon review by Pan the organiser. I’ve been really pleased with it but was looking forward to getting the Autoglym Lance. I bought one recently when they were on offer. Much to my surprise the MJJC out performs it in my opinion. Looks like you agree.
I love the honesty and unbiased opinion, greatly appreciated, especially these days. Thanks Jon cant wait for the next video, no matter what its about ;)
As always, THANK YOU! I think you presented this really well and I love that P2 went to something properly budget, because it still means a newbie or someone cash strapped can get the benefit of snowfoaming.
Great in-depth content again John much appreciated. I have the autoglym Lance already it’s a solid product …. I’d like a second Lance so always good to see what’s available.
I pulled the trigger on the MJJC from in2detailing today. Been using the AD Snow foam cannon which has been served me well along with a 25l container of Magifoam.
Well, if you mix the soap so that the total output is the same between the MTM and MJJC, the MTM will produce equally as good foam, if not better. The fact that the MJJC sucks the product up faster does not make it better, just different. To get the same output you need to adjust your mix accordingly. Would have been interesting to see how the foam test here would have been, had they all used the same PIR.
@@AB-80X cant agree with the summation that the comparison is done badly or misrepresents any brand disproportionately more or less than the others. its a test based on the findings on that day with a particular brand of SF. i have one brand of foam which doesn't respond well when used with it, whilst others are fine. the market moves on and new foams are formulated and new foam cannons arrive, doesn't mean the MJJC would win now if this was repeated nor if a different foam was used either. in the final analysis, you watch these tests, lots of them and form an opinion based on your budget, your needs, the products you use and the pressure washer you use too.
The Bigboi lance supplied with the bigboi jetwash is also identical to the autoglym and angelwax lances! Just for anyone wondering. Bigboi bottle does have a scale on it though.
I definitely need a new one to go with the Karcher I'm about to order (K4 atm I think) so I can't wait to see Jon's view on these! We all know It'll be interesting and fun at the same time don't we guys! 👍
By coincidence I ordered a MJJC yesterday (plus some Gyeon Ceremic detailer) - was impressed by by the build quality that I'd seen on videos - glad you proved it! I'd actually used the Alibaba/Amazon effort but added the Dr Dirt flask - as you say, at the price point can't really argue. If ever you're short for ideas, an video on tuning the lance (filters etc) would be appreciated (if it's not already been done)!
Brilliant comparison as always! I will be adding the MJJC to my collection. I have found so many variables with foam cannons. Using my industrial pressure washer at 140bar/10Lmin my PF22 makes super thick foam with AS ultra mousse where the polar blaster is very thin. Swap it over to the likes of Gyeon foam the PF22 is thin and the polar blaster is thick every time. Same dilutions same pressure I can’t get my head around it!
Thank you for another brilliant, in-depth, review Jon, really appreciate it. I actually use your 2nd place choice. I find that it is plenty good enough, while maybe not being the very best, but for the £11 I paid, it has lasted me a couple of years already. I am not that bothered about super-thick foam (each to their own), as I find when it is slightly runnier, the dirt actually slides off better (using Bilt Hamber auto foam), and actually cleans more efficiently. With really thick foam, I tend to sometimes see a slight layer of grime, still left on the surface, after I have power rinsed it off. I think for people who don't let their cars get too dirty anyway, and constantly keep on top of the cleaning, those cheapo lances are brilliant for the money. Might upgrade to the MJJC when (if) my cheapo one finally dies.
I know this is a very late reply.. But bilt hamber is also made runnier.. Some foams are just better thick.. I have tried alot of different ones and some works with they are quite runni ( bilt hamber) Some needs to be quite thick like magifoam
Fantastic review as normal. I've actually got the MJJC lance, not used it yet, but does look to cover all the bases. Thanks again for your expert review. 👍
Absolutely fantastic review fam 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 mjjc will be on my wishlist 🔥😎💪🏾 Big up for the time and effort to make this its bee a long time coming for this glad you finally made it 👊🏾👊🏾
I use the Blitz Detailing for the summer as I don't need a thick foam but a PA lance for heavier winter dirt and road film. Thanks for this video, very informative.
I bought the MJJC lance a couple of weeks ago, I concur with what you say about it Jon, it's really well made, performs brilliantly with Bilt Hamber Touch-less, and it didn't use too much product to get great results. One thing you did enlighten me on was where the filters go, it doesn't say in the instructions. That would be my only criticism really, the "standard" instructions that have been Google translated several times that don't make a lot of sense. Excellent video as usual.
MJJC is traditionally an "aliexpress" brand. When I did a "Best of aliexpress lances" video, I compared a good number of the aliexpress lance offerings. It featured the MJJC pro v2 and that mini lance (which was bottom of the pile) amongst others. The MJJC finished top by a good number of points. It even beat the autobrite PA lance (used as a benchmark product), and that wasnt a popular opinion at the time. I guess now you've said it, it will hold more weight. 😉🙄
@Encantada-vacation I think the price increases are due to them becoming a respectable brand. They can now more then justify their premium especially when compared to the market. Also Aliexpress now charge UK VAT so its not as cheap as it once and not much difference to buying form UK products Also apparently international shipping costs have supposedly increased.
As a fellow pro detailer, I can't help but being a bit disappointed about this test. It would have been much more interesting to see what kind of foam result each lance produced given the same PIR. The MJJC is not better for pulling the product up faster, just different. Would have loved to see what that little funny lance would have produced had it had the same PIR as the MJJC. I own a few MTM's, an MJJC, and some other lances, so it's not a brand thing. I just think it would have given the general viewer a more realistic picture of what the lances can do given the same product to water output ratio.
Great video. I will probably buy the MJJC when my cheapo lance dies. I bought your 2nd place lance and put in a 1.1 orifice to get really good foam out of it. It does topple easily and is harder to fill, but was so much cheaper that I couldn’t pass it up.
And the one thing that all of these don't have that I have always wanted them to have, is colored scale markings for measurement. The last one that I bought was so hard to read, that I had to paint the impressions with a magic marker to read them. I know it's silly but it is something that I would value... Thanks for the video!
@@as680783 How precise do you actually need to be? I know our pumps are quite precise in pumping out 30 ml per pump. If you want to be precise with water, forget the markers and just weigh the damn thing. If you think about it, there are so many ways to measure things prior to actually mixing it in the bottle. If you are a pro detailer like me, here's an idea that can make things really fast. I store my various premixes in 25 litre jugs with a tap on them. I have four jugs with premixed Auto Foam for example. three is for 3% and the other for 5% PIR. Anything I need in between I mix on the fly. That's why there's an adjustment screw. You are wasting a ton of time if you mix every little container of prewash or foam you use. Much better to just mix a big batch once per week, month or what ever. Even if you are just detailing at home, do it this way. Buy the amount of 1 litre bottles of what ever foam or prewash product that you use, and mix it in a larger 5 l jug with a tap cap on it. A 5 l mix will last most hobbyists a long time if they don't waste the product. If you get the hang on things, you can foam down a car with 150-200 ml of mix, sometimes less. That's 25 car washes for a 5 l mix. Just something to think about Keep it simple.
Hah, I bought the Alibaba one from autobrite over 15 years ago. Was £40 back then. Hell of a mark-up. It did make shaving foam thickness but the filter has had it even though I take it apart and soak it in limescale remover. Hate the bottle as you said, topples over easily.
Hi John lv your informative videos, very helpfull to me. just purchased the mjjc snow foamer from in2detailing & more than happy with the results, i am just starting to try out the bilt hamber products so keep the great vids coming you have a very appreciative following 😀👍
I like the one which finished on 2 place, the most generic "Alibaba" lance. Although, while it's affordable and does the job quiet well, I don't like that its falling easily, the narrow neck when filling up with the solution and it doesn't give you sufficient thickness with the standard 1.25mm orifice alongside with a lower pressure washer. However, when you update the orifice to 1.1mm that good be sorted, but because of the other 2 dislikes I mentioned, I have the MJJC Foam cannon sitting on my table and I cannot wait to use that. I am happy that you also found that one of the best from the list in this video.
It does give you the same foam thickness as long as your PIR is the same. Once lance pull up 300 ml of mix in 32 seconds, the other did it in 45. If you adjust the mix so that the output ratio is the same, then you're good to go. Can I also point out that the neck of the MTM allows you to fit the spray head to just about every 250ml to 1l bottle out that can come in very handy for a lot of reasons. If you're out on a job and something happens to your MJJC bottle for example, you're pretty much screwed. If you have an MTM, just grab one of your old empty soap bottles and use that. Heck, you can use a soda bottle if needed be. MTM did not make the neck narrow because they did not think to make it easy to fill, they made it narrow so that it fits with the standard neck which most bottles use. Besides, most detailers either use pumps or jugs with tabs on them, so the size of the neck is really a non-issue. It was made with the pro detailer in mind, not the hobbyist.
@AB-80X Fair enough. I do use an MTM Pf22 nowadays and it's decent stuff. And I completely agree with the advantage of MTM's standard neck, I still do prefer the MJJC for more variety (scale) of the density that offers with the same chemical. Both MTM and MJJC are excellent lances, and both have their own pros and cons, then it will be us, users, who decide which fits better to the person uses it. For me, MJJC wins over MTM. Simple reasons: bigger scale to adjust density, LEAKPROOF! Yes, if the bottle fails, you sucked, but for me personally, I always carry more than one lances with me and I am happy that my hands stays dry when turn the bottle upside down for any reasons. MTM seems to be the more quality stuff, yet, I like it, I prefer MJJC over it for certain reasons I mentioned above.
Excellent video, Jon as usual. I have an old Kärcher that'll get up to medium pressure and plan to go with an MJJC. There's always the flexibility of the second orifice in case the larger one is too much for my pressure washer. Wishing you all the best from Switzerland, Rob
in the UK the new Pf22.2 is 85-90 pounds. build quality is great on the MTM. 1.1 will whip up better foam on low pressure yer. Its a cool lance. I think theres a new version PF23 coming soon hopefully MTM wont do any poor business deals so they are actually allowed to sell their own product.
*I haven't used it yet, however, this pressure washer replacement gun offers greater spray flexibility over the standard sprayer gun that came with my pressure washer originally.*
I've been using the MTM (Mosmatic lance) since 2018 and my favourite feature compared to the PA I had before is it's reliability. With the PA I'd find myself stripping it down and rebuilding it every 6 months. With the MTM the only thing I do is run a bottle of clean water through the system once the chemicals have been used. I agree the bottle's lack of balance is very bad. I'm going to pick up the new one, now I know it exists. 😀
Really great review Jon, Just got myself the MJJC lance, and the quality of build and product delivery is noticeable to what I had been using. Which by the way has now been relegated to dispensing a prewash solution when the car is really bad.
Glad you picked up on the fact the scale is unusable on the CC lance John! I own one and was so disappointed. A) makes it a bugger for measuring out product. B) means to figure out how much product you have left is by 'feel'. So if I don't use the full bottle of foam then I have no idea how much I have left and therefore if I need to get the jugs out. Also don't seem to be able to get a replacement bottle for it
Thank you Jon, a great unbiased review as usual. One thing I would have liked to have seen was application of sealants eg Autoglym polar seal. I have the MTM with a 1.1 orifice and it is great for foam. It is no use at all when you turn down the mixture knob as half of the liquid coming out of nozzle just dribbles down onto the floor.
Using you recommendations in the past of BH snow foams (got both now) I went for the cheapo aliexpress one just to try it out. As the BH autofoams are pretty runny anyway and it's the lack of additional stuff in it I like. I also have a small fairly low pressure washer anyway - its a perfect combo for performance, value, and i never use anywhere near what it can hold so I just leave liquid in it between washes to stop it falling over. Great vid as always.
I have the same foam cannon and use the same BH snowfoams, one tip I've found is to NOT top up the bottle with water or if you do only add maybe 100-200 ml, the foam is much thicker. You would think it would run out too soon but surprisingly I've found it doesn't! I use 300ml plus 100 or 200 of water (just enough to be able to do one car) and easily do a whole car before it runs out, and I actually get BH Auto Foam to foam better than normal even with my poxy Lidl/Parkside pressure washer! Tbh I don't get why people top up the bottle with water, you are in effect pre-diluting it prior to the jet washer diluting it further, it's no wonder people can't get it to foam well. I'd like to see someone else try it and see if they get the same better foam that I get or if my cheapo AliExpress cannon is somehow just a one-off (clue- it's not!)
@@steverabbits I tend to premix as I turn the flow of water off from the hose so just use the pressure. (for anyone I've got he bosch aquatek 110. Great tip though, I'll give that a whirl then i have the option of adding whatever dilution I want as I go. Nice one!
@@djmandrick ok, I've never heard of anyone turning the hose off before! I guess it must work or you wouldn't do it. Are you in a water restricted area?
@@steverabbits i mean i turn the top valve on the cannon to the off/min possible setting. I have the supply of water and the pressure washer all on as normal.
@@djmandrick ah I see. I have the top valve set to maximum on mine, I find it works well for me but I will experiment next time now you have told me that
I knew the MJJC was gonna win, I have been hanging off buying one until this review came out, but only just got round to upgrading my orifice to 1.1 for my Autoglym lance so I will see how that goes first, I also have the PA lance but not changed anything on that apart from the bottle to the Dr one, that being said, a great review Jon and I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of people been waiting on this for a while 😎👍🏻🏴
you really dont need to by the MJJC if you have the autoglym or PA you have good solid lances there, its mainly if you are looking to buy for the first time. My PA lance from autobrite has not won this test but its been a solid tool for 5-6 years.
@@ForensicDetailing yeah I get what u mean, but u know what it's like, we all just look for an excuse to buy something new 😂 the MJJC defo offers the best bang for ur buck, a great all-rounder 😎👍🏻🏴
@@SomeMadRandomPerson Just remember that if you adjust the total output ratio so that it is the same as the MJJC, you get a result that is much closer to the MJJC than you think. As was said, both your lances are good kit.
Nice video Jon, suprised by your carbon collective snow lance as i have bouhgt it and tested it a few times this week i didnt notice thicker/thinner distrubution of the foam. Anyway its much better than the last few i had,
nothing too bad, the foam is decent and thick, feels solid. love the look of the lance especially the flask. yes its abit pricey. they have an eye for design and branding at carbon collective and they put that bit more effort in to produce something different and I love that.
Just ordered an Mjjc, after Watching this review and some others. Can’t wait to try it, I like thick foam but my current genetic gun just doesn’t cut it. Edit. Have tried the Mjjc gun on my own car and my works car. Absolutely over the moon with the thickness of the foam. I mixed my snow foam in my old gun to make make sure I was. Using the exact same mixture rate, Night & Day, is all I can say. I would need to use another 200ml foam for my old gun to match the Mjjc, for thickness. Icing on the cake, you get x2 mesh filters and another filter that I don’t know what’s it’s for yet and x2 vent bungs for the bottle.
Remember that the foam produced is very much related to the amount of product the system puts out overall. If the MJJC had a 7:3 ratio here which is how I understand it, then just put 4.2:5.8 ratio in the MTM and the PIR will be the same. No matter what you use, calculate the flow to see if you are in the low or high suction end.
MTM PF22.2 doesn’t have all the negatives you mention about the first version, I upgraded my bottle and it’s now perfect for me especially as my pressure washer is a kranzle
MTM have made some poor business decisiosn with the new PF22.2 product. its a great product but they gave away the sole rights to their US partners. So MTM are not allowed to sell their own product. thats created a ridiculous situation for anyone in europe wanting the latest product.
@@ForensicDetailing I totally agree that’s so true I did have to go through a US distributor to get mine which of course added duty as well, as I’m based in the UK myself
You know you are my go to channel when I need to know what to use,right? :P A re run of the heavy cut compounds 2021 edition would be appreciated, with like sonax cutmax, Scholl S2 black HD , ADA 500 etc... all the top dogs.
Been looking forward to this one and it definitely didn’t disappoint. Also would like to say thank you as your videos have helped me with my decision to just purchase a m240i 😊
I find TT " made in Italy" foam lance give me good result with high dwell time. This has been abused in my detailing shop for the past 3 years and runs without any issues. Pressure washer is Hawk 130 bar electric at 11 LPM.
Nice flow and good choice of gear. People are way too caught up in the pressure and think you can't get foam or wash a car unless you blast everything with 200 bar.
My #1 Cannon that I use is the MJJC Pro just like that won for you. My 2nd place is Adam’s Premium Foam Cannon My 3rd is MTM PF22.2 (new bottle). I still think they need to adjust the black twist nozzle and it’s too loose and flops around when you don’t want it to while foaming a vehicle.
I know I’m late to this video. I have that red Italian PA lance, that came with some Autobrite foam. And guess why I’m here looking at snow foam lances. Yep, I’m bloody fed up of that damn thing being so top heavy 🤣 although I’ve not damaged anything with it. Thought if I’m going to replace the bottle might replace the whole thing. Not so sure now. Cheers, Gary B
@@ForensicDetailing Hi forensic. I watch your detailing videos from France 😅 I love your musical tastes, humor and various product tests of course 😉 You speak French ? En France je regarde John car tester. Il devient de plus en plus populaire et multiplie les essais produits avec un certain style 😁 J'essaie de lui recommander les produits bilt hamber découverts avec vous 😉 J'ai découvert le detailling avec la vedette international Pan the organizer 👍 Have a good time 😉 See you
I have an MJJC lance (the tall bottle version) and a cheap one the same as your Ali Express one and agree with your findings that the MJJC one uses a hell of a lot of product. I remember making up a litre of snowfoam, set the dial to maximum foam thickness and must've used 700ml on one car. 😳 It's good but I still prefer the generic cheapo one myself. 👍
Another banger video Jon. Thoroughly enjoyed the content and intricate detail you discuss in the product reviews. Not sure if you have done a comparison video on nano polishers or 1” polishers but would be interested in something like that please.
Foam is all about gallons per minute check out Matt at Obsessed garage for his spreadsheet on pressure washers and their GPM ratings at that 1000 to 1100 PSI .
I got the MJJC a few weeks back to replace my Karcher Foam Lance Advanced 042, which I was very disappointed with for over £129. Got the MJJC direct from the manufacture as they were the only one that had the adaptor for the Karcher HDS 7/10. Best purchase ever, it is fantastic! The foam it generates is incredible and means I actually use less than I did before.
The mtm in my opinion should be second place. I have the mjjc, and the pf22. I converted the bottle on my pf22 to the wide opening and wide bottom. It is a top class lance. At the end of the day you want a product to perform and last and for that reason even though it is the most expensive it gets my vote. You get what you pay for
The topple thing was unforgivable bad design. I spoke about this on the unplugged.. they have now given the UK access to latest version pf22.2. this might have made the podium except they increased lance price by 20 pounds just to fix the bottle. But it's mega high quality...
@@ForensicDetailing The bottle tipping over used to really annoy me as well. I found a video on TH-cam of a guy in USA who had converted his to a larger opening and base. It was a great idea so I also done mine. It’s perfect now, but agree they are still behind as the new bottle may have larger base but they kept the bottle neck opening. Poor design and not really moving forward with technology.
@@rufus7343 Me and many other pro detailers are glad that the did not change the neck. Like how the nozzle works, it was done that way for a reason. That size was chosen so that it fits onto just about every 1l bottle in the world if needed be. Multi purpose use is important and the wide opening does not allow that.
I've got an early autobrite PA and it shows no signs of dying soon.. wish it didn't topple so much though. Will be getting the mjjc if the need arises though.
I have the Autoglym snow foam Lance, it's easy to fill and generally quite stable. The biggest issue for me is when the contents gets low in the bottle you have to be careful how you tilt it otherwise it stops producing the foam. I like the MJJC product as they have thought about that problem.
adams premuin foam cannon is very good! can fit 16 oz bottles but the bundle on amazon with the sgs28 stubby is an amazing deal! both for $99 i belive youre getting a 70$ stubby for 30$
I have one of the aliexpress jobbys, I have used it with a nilfisk and now a karcher (changed adapter) I can get foam as thick as shaving foam if I want either from Autoglym Polar Blast, auto finese snow foam or meguiars snow foam, can even get a thick foam out of shampoos - it's a great little thing, but yeah, falls over a lot :-D
Heres the more raw informal breakdown of these products on the Unplugged channel. th-cam.com/video/5kYhThuqB9E/w-d-xo.html
Being an avid detailer and a Plastic injection moulding engineer, I wish to give you my opinion on Chinese made tooling. I have worked in the business for over 32 years and with Chinese toolmakers for 20 years and after several visits to there facilities I can categorically tell you now that they will engineer anything to whatever level you specify. They are head and shoulders above anyone else in the world. So just because you see it's made in China, do not assume it's substandard because they work to whatever quality of work you tell them to.
Spot on. You can make an item to a price or build it to a quality standard, the choice is with the company that wants them manufactured it has nothing to do with it being Chinese per se
the winning lance is chinese and seems pretty good quality to me, but what you say makes sense. but I do also think theres a reputation with chinese and cheap and substandard quality and also copying thats perhaps earnt to some extent.
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@@mctend9108 . That would be down to misled politics and sour grapes rather than the quality of British goods. We have the toughest guidelines in the world when it comes to manufacturing so British made goods are one of the best in the world.
@@jasonphillips3865 yeah we are not very popular with Europe are we, I wonder why! A tiny little island, the most successful nation in the history of mankind, almost the entire planet speaks our language and those that don't wish they could, let's not even get into a discussion about it, it's futile.
Got the MJJC awhile ago when Detailing and the Beast reviewed it, excellent lance!
If only I didn't hate snowfoaming the car LOL
@@dimmacommunication LOL
Thanks for including us in the review Jon. We appreciate your feedback!
As always, we watch these videos for opinions and to help us improve in the future. We add Loctite on the top fitting to stop the bottle from unscrewing, for those who have our lance.
I can touch the quality in your products and results , you are seeking quality and now you are in NEXT LEVEL!
I went for MJJC as an upgrade to my old Ali type cannon that came second. Got to say it was a close call between the MJJC and your own offering. The reason I went for the MJJC was the price including next day delivery on Amazon. I think I'll defo add yours to the collection next, if you can get the fan stream issue corrected. It's a lovely looking unit and seems to perform well.
Thanks for featuring the 'Mini-Lance' Jon! I think it's a good starter lance as it's simple for newbies to use, or a backup like you say. Another main thing we get, is people using it to apply coatings, as it seems to be quick and simple for that scenario. Plus wallet friendly. If anyone is wondering, you can change/clean the mesh on them, but the orifice or the quick connect aren't removeable. If anyone's interested we also do cannons similar to the Autoglym/Angelwax one, as well as spare bottles.
If it's the same as the one on ali for 4quid, then the orifice is a 1.1 and causes pulsating on some machines. I had to drill mine out to 1.25mm to stop it being a problem. The top is also very loose as it's a kind of bayonet fitting over a typical screw.
I use mine with Garage Therapy one wheel shampoo now as it's not good enough to produce a decent foam for prewash.
@@DetailingandtheBeast it's possible they're from the same supplier but I can't say 100% as there's often minor differences between them. Not had any reports of pulsating so far, nor issues with the bayonet top, and we've sold 100+ so that's a good sign. They definitely have their uses, I'm just always surprised when people think they'll get the same performance from an £8 cannon as a £30 one.
Always love the detail and scientific fact based approach you take. Incredible detail and information for anyone from the novice to the expert to make a purchase have decision.
This video couldn't have come at a more perfect time. My cannon has just started messing up so thanks for this
Thank you for this. I’ve been running a standard Karcher Lance for over a year now and since upgrading to a K4 Power Control I’ve been wanting to up my foam game. Just purchased the MJJC Pro upon watching this. Can’t wait to use it 😆
Great video as always, one of the best detailing Chanel on you tube thank you for your honest opinions and great videos 👍👍
This was a great review Jon. Thanks for taking the time to obtain and review all these. It might be the most thorough review and testing of various snow foam lances ever done on TH-cam. I do love the LOOK of that Carbon Collective one. As far as looks, it wins hands down. And I also really like the looks of the Angelwax one in the gold color. That one just looks really good. I'd really like to get a hold of one of those Dr. Dirt bottle but those are hard to find and almost impossible to get here in the USA. I just bought the Griot's Garage BOSS Foam Cannon Kit. That thing is incredible. The best feature is the fact I can hook up Griots three different foaming chemical bottles directly to the lance. It has this unique double thread system which has both a wide mouth bottle AND a smaller thread inside that allows you to hook the product bottles right to the lance. Then they have the metering tips so you don't even have to mix up your product which I love. It distributes the proper amount automatically without mixing. It's got that same pick up tube that the MJJC Pro Cannon has but you put these small tips into the small metal ball and that's how the product get's metered. And they give you three different tips so you can go light, regular, or heavy dilution ratios. Griot's did all the work figuring out the mixing ratios for you with the metering tips. It is a brilliant design and produces really good foam. I also have the little Karcher foam lance made by Karcher and for what it is, it is decent. It's definitely not on the level of the higher end ones you reviewed here, but it does get the job done. That bit at 18:40 was hilarious. Dr. Jon........The PHD of detailing!
that griot one looks great actually. just cant get it in the UK right now. the problem will be the price tag. in the USA lances are a bit more expensive, so if this does hit the UK Im wondering if its gonna be like 80-90 quid. And no one will buy it at that price. hope they can get it over here and get the price down.
@@ForensicDetailing Yeah, that is the downside to the Griots BOSS Foam Cannon. It's very PRICEY. Even here in the USA I think it is the most expensive one. Fortunately I got it as a birthday gift from my wife! LOL. It's fairly popular over here, but, really, only enthusiast's or people with more money than brains buy it! Your everyday weekend warrior probably isn't going to buy it. The MTM Foam cannon is very popular here and has a loyal "cult following" The MJJC Pro is taking off and is a very popular one now. That does look like a great foam lance for the price. The only reason I got the Griot's was for the self metering tips and use of their 3 foaming soaps/sealants that are specific to it. A friend of mine turned me onto it so I caved and asked my wife for one for my birthday. The deal actually wasn't too bad. It was $165 US for the "KIT" but included the Foam Cannon, an extra replacement filter, metering tips, all three chemicals for it, and their large PFM drying towel. The internals are all stainless steel so that's a plus to help on longevity. Overall it's up there with the MTM or MJJC I would say. Thanks again for the review and test.
i like the idea of the Blitz because i have the tendancy to fill the entire thing up with water and it reduces the concentration it spits out...this is a good way to regulate it.
Greetings ftom the States. I’m enjoying all of your videos. I have the MTM cannon, and it is quite tippy. I didn’t realize there was an alternate flask until watching this video. Ordering it today.
Thank you for all your work,
Jim
Thanks for another great review. I bought the MJJC Pro last year during lockdown after watching a foam canon review by Pan the organiser. I’ve been really pleased with it but was looking forward to getting the Autoglym Lance. I bought one recently when they were on offer. Much to my surprise the MJJC out performs it in my opinion. Looks like you agree.
I love the honesty and unbiased opinion, greatly appreciated, especially these days. Thanks Jon cant wait for the next video, no matter what its about ;)
As always, THANK YOU! I think you presented this really well and I love that P2 went to something properly budget, because it still means a newbie or someone cash strapped can get the benefit of snowfoaming.
I agree with you in the foam rankings, i have both the MJJC Pro and the Autoglym, I like both but my favourite is the MJJC PRO
Great in-depth content again John much appreciated. I have the autoglym Lance already it’s a solid product …. I’d like a second Lance so always good to see what’s available.
I pulled the trigger on the MJJC from in2detailing today. Been using the AD Snow foam cannon which has been served me well along with a 25l container of Magifoam.
Without even watching this video...
MJJC for the win.....and its ease of assembly and stonking performance ...Great foam and good adjustment
Well, if you mix the soap so that the total output is the same between the MTM and MJJC, the MTM will produce equally as good foam, if not better. The fact that the MJJC sucks the product up faster does not make it better, just different. To get the same output you need to adjust your mix accordingly. Would have been interesting to see how the foam test here would have been, had they all used the same PIR.
@@AB-80X not sure why this is a reply, would have been better in the main thread
It was as much a reply to your comment of MJJC for the Win. It's not a win if the comparison is done badly.
@@AB-80X cant agree with the summation that the comparison is done badly or misrepresents any brand disproportionately more or less than the others.
its a test based on the findings on that day with a particular brand of SF.
i have one brand of foam which doesn't respond well when used with it, whilst others are fine. the market moves on and new foams are formulated and new foam cannons arrive, doesn't mean the MJJC would win now if this was repeated nor if a different foam was used either.
in the final analysis, you watch these tests, lots of them and form an opinion based on your budget, your needs, the products you use and the pressure washer you use too.
The Bigboi lance supplied with the bigboi jetwash is also identical to the autoglym and angelwax lances! Just for anyone wondering.
Bigboi bottle does have a scale on it though.
I definitely need a new one to go with the Karcher I'm about to order (K4 atm I think) so I can't wait to see Jon's view on these! We all know It'll be interesting and fun at the same time don't we guys! 👍
I would highly recommend a nilfisk washer extremely good machines all of them have a metal pump
@@kylerowan1052 appreciate the tip off Kyle 👍
@@steverabbits if your in the uk and ireland argos sells them definitely look at the nilfisk dynamic 140 it does 550 litres per hour
By coincidence I ordered a MJJC yesterday (plus some Gyeon Ceremic detailer) - was impressed by by the build quality that I'd seen on videos - glad you proved it! I'd actually used the Alibaba/Amazon effort but added the Dr Dirt flask - as you say, at the price point can't really argue. If ever you're short for ideas, an video on tuning the lance (filters etc) would be appreciated (if it's not already been done)!
Ah of course - already done ... "The Secret to making thick Snow Foam" video ;)
Brilliant comparison as always! I will be adding the MJJC to my collection. I have found so many variables with foam cannons. Using my industrial pressure washer at 140bar/10Lmin my PF22 makes super thick foam with AS ultra mousse where the polar blaster is very thin. Swap it over to the likes of Gyeon foam the PF22 is thin and the polar blaster is thick every time. Same dilutions same pressure I can’t get my head around it!
Was thinking yesterday I need a new Lance for work, and remember you were doing a test. Cheers for the reviews they do come in really handy
'Happiness is a Cigar called Hamlet' @18:06s
FPMSL 🤣🤣🤣
Thank you for another brilliant, in-depth, review Jon, really appreciate it.
I actually use your 2nd place choice. I find that it is plenty good enough, while maybe not being the very best, but for the £11 I paid, it has lasted me a couple of years already. I am not that bothered about super-thick foam (each to their own), as I find when it is slightly runnier, the dirt actually slides off better (using Bilt Hamber auto foam), and actually cleans more efficiently.
With really thick foam, I tend to sometimes see a slight layer of grime, still left on the surface, after I have power rinsed it off.
I think for people who don't let their cars get too dirty anyway, and constantly keep on top of the cleaning, those cheapo lances are brilliant for the money.
Might upgrade to the MJJC when (if) my cheapo one finally dies.
I know this is a very late reply.. But bilt hamber is also made runnier.. Some foams are just better thick.. I have tried alot of different ones and some works with they are quite runni ( bilt hamber)
Some needs to be quite thick like magifoam
I've got a simple Nilfisk 110 and a Ali Baba foamer. With a cheap snowfoam like Kenotek I get foam as thick as whipped cream.
Absolutely priceless information John. I'm going to order the MJJC. But its now more like 50 quid. I blame you for that for such a positive review😂😉
Fantastic review as normal. I've actually got the MJJC lance, not used it yet, but does look to cover all the bases. Thanks again for your expert review. 👍
It’s good to see you at someone making a video of which product is better
the neighbors must have been saying, oh he is doing another snow foam shootout. lol
😂 must be saying “surely that car is clean by now…” as the seventh wave of snow foam comes
I wonder if the whole street suffers pressure drops whilst John hogs all the water.
Absolutely fantastic review fam 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 mjjc will be on my wishlist 🔥😎💪🏾 Big up for the time and effort to make this its bee a long time coming for this glad you finally made it 👊🏾👊🏾
I use the Blitz Detailing for the summer as I don't need a thick foam but a PA lance for heavier winter dirt and road film. Thanks for this video, very informative.
I bought the MJJC lance a couple of weeks ago, I concur with what you say about it Jon, it's really well made, performs brilliantly with Bilt Hamber Touch-less, and it didn't use too much product to get great results.
One thing you did enlighten me on was where the filters go, it doesn't say in the instructions. That would be my only criticism really, the "standard" instructions that have been Google translated several times that don't make a lot of sense.
Excellent video as usual.
MJJC is traditionally an "aliexpress" brand. When I did a "Best of aliexpress lances" video, I compared a good number of the aliexpress lance offerings. It featured the MJJC pro v2 and that mini lance (which was bottom of the pile) amongst others.
The MJJC finished top by a good number of points. It even beat the autobrite PA lance (used as a benchmark product), and that wasnt a popular opinion at the time.
I guess now you've said it, it will hold more weight. 😉🙄
And your video made me buy it
I can order the MJJC one from Ali for 25€ while retailers charge you 100€ 😳
@Encantada-vacation I think the price increases are due to them becoming a respectable brand. They can now more then justify their premium especially when compared to the market.
Also Aliexpress now charge UK VAT so its not as cheap as it once and not much difference to buying form UK products
Also apparently international shipping costs have supposedly increased.
@@MegaFregel do you have a link? I've looked and can't seem to see them at all on aliexpess
As a fellow pro detailer, I can't help but being a bit disappointed about this test. It would have been much more interesting to see what kind of foam result each lance produced given the same PIR. The MJJC is not better for pulling the product up faster, just different.
Would have loved to see what that little funny lance would have produced had it had the same PIR as the MJJC. I own a few MTM's, an MJJC, and some other lances, so it's not a brand thing. I just think it would have given the general viewer a more realistic picture of what the lances can do given the same product to water output ratio.
Nice job Jon great info i myself use the Autoglym one and found it to be brilliant.
That MJJC is £50+ now 😲
Value should be reconsidered now.
Stil 38 quid
Another informative video John. Thanks and keep up the good work. A worthy winner 👍
Nice unbiased recommendation as always John.
I just purchase the mjjc and it’s improve! I don’t have to use 2 hand to adjust the spread width anymore! It’s light and smoother.
I love my Autobrite foam lance, it uses the PA nozzle head and they provide a bottle of Magifoam also
18:33 best laugh I've had in weeks Jon! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sh1t I didn't realise it hit your car mate, I'm not laughing anymore ok 😭
I have indeed seen your mug a few times, and I quite like the content.
Subscribed👍🏼 keep it up, and thank you!
Great video. I will probably buy the MJJC when my cheapo lance dies. I bought your 2nd place lance and put in a 1.1 orifice to get really good foam out of it. It does topple easily and is harder to fill, but was so much cheaper that I couldn’t pass it up.
And the one thing that all of these don't have that I have always wanted them to have, is colored scale markings for measurement. The last one that I bought was so hard to read, that I had to paint the impressions with a magic marker to read them. I know it's silly but it is something that I would value... Thanks for the video!
Great suggestion Jeff. You'd think it was obvious really, but nobody seems to bother with nuances like this.
@@as680783
How precise do you actually need to be? I know our pumps are quite precise in pumping out 30 ml per pump. If you want to be precise with water, forget the markers and just weigh the damn thing. If you think about it, there are so many ways to measure things prior to actually mixing it in the bottle.
If you are a pro detailer like me, here's an idea that can make things really fast.
I store my various premixes in 25 litre jugs with a tap on them. I have four jugs with premixed Auto Foam for example. three is for 3% and the other for 5% PIR. Anything I need in between I mix on the fly. That's why there's an adjustment screw. You are wasting a ton of time if you mix every little container of prewash or foam you use. Much better to just mix a big batch once per week, month or what ever.
Even if you are just detailing at home, do it this way. Buy the amount of 1 litre bottles of what ever foam or prewash product that you use, and mix it in a larger 5 l jug with a tap cap on it. A 5 l mix will last most hobbyists a long time if they don't waste the product. If you get the hang on things, you can foam down a car with 150-200 ml of mix, sometimes less. That's 25 car washes for a 5 l mix.
Just something to think about Keep it simple.
Hah, I bought the Alibaba one from autobrite over 15 years ago. Was £40 back then. Hell of a mark-up.
It did make shaving foam thickness but the filter has had it even though I take it apart and soak it in limescale remover. Hate the bottle as you said, topples over easily.
Fantastic video, I really appreciate the detail of your comparison videos. The information is so valued thank you!
You can get liquid ptfe these days, works a lot better than the tape type
Hi John
lv your informative videos, very helpfull to me.
just purchased the mjjc snow foamer from in2detailing & more than happy with the results, i am just starting to try out the bilt hamber products so keep the great vids coming you have a very appreciative following 😀👍
Decent neck diameter for filling is really useful in my limited experience.
Maybe use a funnel? but yes I get your point.
@@TommyApel That is always an option but much easier to simply pour directly.
I like the one which finished on 2 place, the most generic "Alibaba" lance. Although, while it's affordable and does the job quiet well, I don't like that its falling easily, the narrow neck when filling up with the solution and it doesn't give you sufficient thickness with the standard 1.25mm orifice alongside with a lower pressure washer. However, when you update the orifice to 1.1mm that good be sorted, but because of the other 2 dislikes I mentioned, I have the MJJC Foam cannon sitting on my table and I cannot wait to use that. I am happy that you also found that one of the best from the list in this video.
It does give you the same foam thickness as long as your PIR is the same.
Once lance pull up 300 ml of mix in 32 seconds, the other did it in 45. If you adjust the mix so that the output ratio is the same, then you're good to go.
Can I also point out that the neck of the MTM allows you to fit the spray head to just about every 250ml to 1l bottle out that can come in very handy for a lot of reasons. If you're out on a job and something happens to your MJJC bottle for example, you're pretty much screwed. If you have an MTM, just grab one of your old empty soap bottles and use that. Heck, you can use a soda bottle if needed be. MTM did not make the neck narrow because they did not think to make it easy to fill, they made it narrow so that it fits with the standard neck which most bottles use. Besides, most detailers either use pumps or jugs with tabs on them, so the size of the neck is really a non-issue. It was made with the pro detailer in mind, not the hobbyist.
@AB-80X Fair enough. I do use an MTM Pf22 nowadays and it's decent stuff. And I completely agree with the advantage of MTM's standard neck, I still do prefer the MJJC for more variety (scale) of the density that offers with the same chemical. Both MTM and MJJC are excellent lances, and both have their own pros and cons, then it will be us, users, who decide which fits better to the person uses it. For me, MJJC wins over MTM. Simple reasons: bigger scale to adjust density, LEAKPROOF! Yes, if the bottle fails, you sucked, but for me personally, I always carry more than one lances with me and I am happy that my hands stays dry when turn the bottle upside down for any reasons. MTM seems to be the more quality stuff, yet, I like it, I prefer MJJC over it for certain reasons I mentioned above.
Excellent video, Jon as usual. I have an old Kärcher that'll get up to medium pressure and plan to go with an MJJC. There's always the flexibility of the second orifice in case the larger one is too much for my pressure washer. Wishing you all the best from Switzerland, Rob
If you have a low flow (
in the UK the new Pf22.2 is 85-90 pounds. build quality is great on the MTM. 1.1 will whip up better foam on low pressure yer. Its a cool lance. I think theres a new version PF23 coming soon hopefully MTM wont do any poor business deals so they are actually allowed to sell their own product.
*I haven't used it yet, however, this pressure washer replacement gun offers greater spray flexibility over the standard sprayer gun that came with my pressure washer originally.*
FDC always does the best comparisons👍👍👍
I've been using the MTM (Mosmatic lance) since 2018 and my favourite feature compared to the PA I had before is it's reliability. With the PA I'd find myself stripping it down and rebuilding it every 6 months. With the MTM the only thing I do is run a bottle of clean water through the system once the chemicals have been used. I agree the bottle's lack of balance is very bad. I'm going to pick up the new one, now I know it exists. 😀
Really great review Jon, Just got myself the MJJC lance, and the quality of build and product delivery is noticeable to what I had been using. Which by the way has now been relegated to dispensing a prewash solution when the car is really bad.
Great video Jon. I do like these in depth comparisons. Really informative. Keep up the splendid work. 👍
MJJC I agree is the best and I own 5 lances.
Glad you picked up on the fact the scale is unusable on the CC lance John! I own one and was so disappointed. A) makes it a bugger for measuring out product. B) means to figure out how much product you have left is by 'feel'. So if I don't use the full bottle of foam then I have no idea how much I have left and therefore if I need to get the jugs out.
Also don't seem to be able to get a replacement bottle for it
Thanks buddy. Been waiting a while for you to post a gun battle vid👍
The best foam cannon that I think is out there right now and that I own, is the Brilliant finish foam cannon from Griots Garage.
Thank you Jon, a great unbiased review as usual. One thing I would have liked to have seen was application of sealants eg Autoglym polar seal. I have the MTM with a 1.1 orifice and it is great for foam. It is no use at all when you turn down the mixture knob as half of the liquid coming out of nozzle just dribbles down onto the floor.
autoglym polar blaster is highly desirable to me. Looks sharp and high quality.
Using you recommendations in the past of BH snow foams (got both now) I went for the cheapo aliexpress one just to try it out. As the BH autofoams are pretty runny anyway and it's the lack of additional stuff in it I like. I also have a small fairly low pressure washer anyway - its a perfect combo for performance, value, and i never use anywhere near what it can hold so I just leave liquid in it between washes to stop it falling over. Great vid as always.
I have the same foam cannon and use the same BH snowfoams, one tip I've found is to NOT top up the bottle with water or if you do only add maybe 100-200 ml, the foam is much thicker. You would think it would run out too soon but surprisingly I've found it doesn't! I use 300ml plus 100 or 200 of water (just enough to be able to do one car) and easily do a whole car before it runs out, and I actually get BH Auto Foam to foam better than normal even with my poxy Lidl/Parkside pressure washer! Tbh I don't get why people top up the bottle with water, you are in effect pre-diluting it prior to the jet washer diluting it further, it's no wonder people can't get it to foam well. I'd like to see someone else try it and see if they get the same better foam that I get or if my cheapo AliExpress cannon is somehow just a one-off (clue- it's not!)
@@steverabbits I tend to premix as I turn the flow of water off from the hose so just use the pressure. (for anyone I've got he bosch aquatek 110. Great tip though, I'll give that a whirl then i have the option of adding whatever dilution I want as I go. Nice one!
@@djmandrick ok, I've never heard of anyone turning the hose off before! I guess it must work or you wouldn't do it. Are you in a water restricted area?
@@steverabbits i mean i turn the top valve on the cannon to the off/min possible setting. I have the supply of water and the pressure washer all on as normal.
@@djmandrick ah I see. I have the top valve set to maximum on mine, I find it works well for me but I will experiment next time now you have told me that
I knew the MJJC was gonna win, I have been hanging off buying one until this review came out, but only just got round to upgrading my orifice to 1.1 for my Autoglym lance so I will see how that goes first, I also have the PA lance but not changed anything on that apart from the bottle to the Dr one, that being said, a great review Jon and I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of people been waiting on this for a while 😎👍🏻🏴
you really dont need to by the MJJC if you have the autoglym or PA you have good solid lances there, its mainly if you are looking to buy for the first time. My PA lance from autobrite has not won this test but its been a solid tool for 5-6 years.
@@ForensicDetailing yeah I get what u mean, but u know what it's like, we all just look for an excuse to buy something new 😂 the MJJC defo offers the best bang for ur buck, a great all-rounder 😎👍🏻🏴
@@SomeMadRandomPerson Just remember that if you adjust the total output ratio so that it is the same as the MJJC, you get a result that is much closer to the MJJC than you think. As was said, both your lances are good kit.
Great review, just when I needed a new snow foam lance. New MJJC order via your link 👍
Nice video Jon, suprised by your carbon collective snow lance as i have bouhgt it and tested it a few times this week i didnt notice thicker/thinner distrubution of the foam. Anyway its much better than the last few i had,
nothing too bad, the foam is decent and thick, feels solid. love the look of the lance especially the flask. yes its abit pricey. they have an eye for design and branding at carbon collective and they put that bit more effort in to produce something different and I love that.
Just ordered an Mjjc, after Watching this review and some others. Can’t wait to try it, I like thick foam but my current genetic gun just doesn’t cut it. Edit. Have tried the Mjjc gun on my own car and my works car. Absolutely over the moon with the thickness of the foam. I mixed my snow foam in my old gun to make make sure I was. Using the exact same mixture rate, Night & Day, is all I can say. I would need to use another 200ml foam for my old gun to match the Mjjc, for thickness. Icing on the cake, you get x2 mesh filters and another filter that I don’t know what’s it’s for yet and x2 vent bungs for the bottle.
Remember that the foam produced is very much related to the amount of product the system puts out overall. If the MJJC had a 7:3 ratio here which is how I understand it, then just put 4.2:5.8 ratio in the MTM and the PIR will be the same. No matter what you use, calculate the flow to see if you are in the low or high suction end.
Great review.more detailed than some.it made my mind up which one to buy,,good job.
Great review 👍 and now purchased the MJJC. Subbed.
MTM PF22.2 doesn’t have all the negatives you mention about the first version, I upgraded my bottle and it’s now perfect for me especially as my pressure washer is a kranzle
MTM have made some poor business decisiosn with the new PF22.2 product. its a great product but they gave away the sole rights to their US partners. So MTM are not allowed to sell their own product. thats created a ridiculous situation for anyone in europe wanting the latest product.
@@ForensicDetailing I totally agree that’s so true I did have to go through a US distributor to get mine which of course added duty as well, as I’m based in the UK myself
Brilliant video again Jon. Fantastic job. Can't wait for the next one 🤙
to stop lances falling over only have to glue a coaster or cut a round bit of plastic
or buy a better one thats considered that in the design so you dont have to go all "blue peter".. and also might be cheaper...
You know you are my go to channel when I need to know what to use,right? :P
A re run of the heavy cut compounds 2021 edition would be appreciated, with like sonax cutmax, Scholl S2 black HD , ADA 500 etc... all the top dogs.
Been looking forward to this one and it definitely didn’t disappoint. Also would like to say thank you as your videos have helped me with my decision to just purchase a m240i 😊
I find TT " made in Italy" foam lance give me good result with high dwell time. This has been abused in my detailing shop for the past 3 years and runs without any issues. Pressure washer is Hawk 130 bar electric at 11 LPM.
Nice flow and good choice of gear. People are way too caught up in the pressure and think you can't get foam or wash a car unless you blast everything with 200 bar.
My #1 Cannon that I use is the MJJC Pro just like that won for you.
My 2nd place is Adam’s Premium Foam Cannon
My 3rd is MTM PF22.2 (new bottle). I still think they need to adjust the black twist nozzle and it’s too loose and flops around when you don’t want it to while foaming a vehicle.
Best one I found is the PA Ls-12,great video
I know I’m late to this video. I have that red Italian PA lance, that came with some Autobrite foam.
And guess why I’m here looking at snow foam lances. Yep, I’m bloody fed up of that damn thing being so top heavy 🤣 although I’ve not damaged anything with it.
Thought if I’m going to replace the bottle might replace the whole thing. Not so sure now.
Cheers,
Gary B
J'ai le mjjc et j'en suis également très satisfait ! Belle fabrication
Bonjour Thomas ;)
@@ForensicDetailing Hi forensic. I watch your detailing videos from France 😅 I love your musical tastes, humor and various product tests of course 😉
You speak French ?
En France je regarde John car tester. Il devient de plus en plus populaire et multiplie les essais produits avec un certain style 😁 J'essaie de lui recommander les produits bilt hamber découverts avec vous 😉
J'ai découvert le detailling avec la vedette international Pan the organizer 👍
Have a good time 😉 See you
I have an MJJC lance (the tall bottle version) and a cheap one the same as your Ali Express one and agree with your findings that the MJJC one uses a hell of a lot of product. I remember making up a litre of snowfoam, set the dial to maximum foam thickness and must've used 700ml on one car. 😳 It's good but I still prefer the generic cheapo one myself. 👍
Been waiting for this!
I recently got the mjjc I think it's hard to beat for the price and the kit you get with it
Thank's for the video :) now it's time to review pressure sprayers, I always put pre wash trough pump spray.
Another banger video Jon. Thoroughly enjoyed the content and intricate detail you discuss in the product reviews. Not sure if you have done a comparison video on nano polishers or 1” polishers but would be interested in something like that please.
Foam is all about gallons per minute check out Matt at Obsessed garage for his spreadsheet on pressure washers and their GPM ratings at that 1000 to 1100 PSI .
I got the MJJC a few weeks back to replace my Karcher Foam Lance Advanced 042, which I was very disappointed with for over £129.
Got the MJJC direct from the manufacture as they were the only one that had the adaptor for the Karcher HDS 7/10.
Best purchase ever, it is fantastic! The foam it generates is incredible and means I actually use less than I did before.
The mtm in my opinion should be second place. I have the mjjc, and the pf22. I converted the bottle on my pf22 to the wide opening and wide bottom. It is a top class lance. At the end of the day you want a product to perform and last and for that reason even though it is the most expensive it gets my vote. You get what you pay for
The topple thing was unforgivable bad design. I spoke about this on the unplugged.. they have now given the UK access to latest version pf22.2. this might have made the podium except they increased lance price by 20 pounds just to fix the bottle. But it's mega high quality...
@@ForensicDetailing The bottle tipping over used to really annoy me as well. I found a video on TH-cam of a guy in USA who had converted his to a larger opening and base. It was a great idea so I also done mine. It’s perfect now, but agree they are still behind as the new bottle may have larger base but they kept the bottle neck opening. Poor design and not really moving forward with technology.
@@rufus7343 Me and many other pro detailers are glad that the did not change the neck. Like how the nozzle works, it was done that way for a reason. That size was chosen so that it fits onto just about every 1l bottle in the world if needed be. Multi purpose use is important and the wide opening does not allow that.
I've got an early autobrite PA and it shows no signs of dying soon.. wish it didn't topple so much though. Will be getting the mjjc if the need arises though.
the Dr dirt flask in the description will sort the topple.
yes yes yes going to upgrade my bosch aqt 125 with an m22 adapter, long hose and a stubby gun so I will need a snow foam cannon thanks
the MTM is made well...ive beat the crap out of mine and it really is built well.
Ali baba pre wash autoglym for snow foam
£50 quid all done , good content
Cheers
I have the Autoglym snow foam Lance, it's easy to fill and generally quite stable. The biggest issue for me is when the contents gets low in the bottle you have to be careful how you tilt it otherwise it stops producing the foam. I like the MJJC product as they have thought about that problem.
Great video as always. Shame you didn’t include Wax planets, hornet snow foam Lance.
adams premuin foam cannon is very good! can fit 16 oz bottles but the bundle on amazon with the sgs28 stubby is an amazing deal! both for $99 i belive youre getting a 70$ stubby for 30$
18:33 Sh1t I didn't realise it hit your car mate, I'm not laughing anymore ok 😭
All these fancy foam lances and there is me with my karcher nozzle. Lol
Thanks for the amazing in depth video
I have one of the aliexpress jobbys, I have used it with a nilfisk and now a karcher (changed adapter) I can get foam as thick as shaving foam if I want either from Autoglym Polar Blast, auto finese snow foam or meguiars snow foam, can even get a thick foam out of shampoos - it's a great little thing, but yeah, falls over a lot :-D