The History Behind Vinland Saga - Character Comparisons - The Real Story
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- This is an insight into the real history and people in which the story of the Vinland Saga anime and manga is based upon.
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A thing I would like to add is the author gave a tribute to the sculptor of thorfinn's statue by naming his best friend after him.
E T That’s awesome!
@Blades O Grass in the manga later on, Einar is a character that becomes thorfinn's best friend and I just noticed that Einar jonassen is the name of the sculptor.
Blades O Grass LMAO youre a funny guy
@Blades O Grass omg that's what I actually thought when I first read the comment
Einar is like a brother to Thorfinn
Fascinating that Askeladd could draw inspiration from a Norwegian myth about stoking the fire, when he spends his entire time in the story stoking the fires of war
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Thorfinn will be known more than Lief Erickson overtime just because of the anime lol
*Leif Erikson
Leif is already immortalized in the best anime, Spongebob
@@kaste94 we’re forgetting already
There's no thorfinn day but there is a Leif Erikson day
The vikings valhalla Netflix show based on leif ericsson is probably more popular than vinland saga
If I remember from history class:
Leif Erickson actually did land in the province Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. He made friends with the local first nation people there and probably smoked. There are still traces of viking settlements there. Also, I'm not sure but he probably killed a bunch of those guys with new diseases.
Panda Bear that’s right! If you want to know more about Leif’s (supposed) colony look up L'aux meadows
Wasn't that settlement abandoned after 3 years though?
They've found a bunch of Viking stuff in Newfoundland. They even found a HOUSE!!
Given that the Vikings didn't understand disease they can hardly be blamed, the English later did understand and intentionally gave disease laced blankets to the natives.
Same result but the motives should not be overlooked one was a mistake, the other intentional.
@@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32 This practice continued well after the founding of the United States
I'm Really impressed by this video. It's really interesting and extremely well edited. I love Vinland Saga but I was never aware of how accurate it was to actual history.
Der Xardas Thank you! I was impressed by the first season of the show. I just had to share how historical it was
Vinland Saga is infinitely better than any Live action Viking show ever
The Last Kingdom clears
@@ShortSideSniper17nah. Vinland is better. Last kingdom movie sucks
Yes
Vikings Is lit
I must admit, I was a little surprised when I found out ''Askeladden'' was depicted as a villian in an anime, I grew up with stop motion films based around the original tales! The only evil thing I can remember that he ever did was when he tricked a troll to stab himself! x)
Tbf he did some pretty fucked up things in the other, original fairytales. And Henrik Ibsen's "Peer Gynt" was literary a parody on Askeladden, showing the worst sides about norwegians and awarding them for it. Peer Gynt literary ran away from his fiance on the night before their wedding night, then she waited 40 years for Peer Gynt to just out of nowhere return (after making alot of money in the opium trade and "civilizing" in China and literary slave trade in Africa). Idk if he did marry her in their like 70s to live happily ever after, after all the evil crap Peer Gynt did, or he told his wife she was a stupid ass bitch for wasting her life on someone who didn't even love her, but yeah. I love Peer Gynt and I love the original norwegian folk tales and their just, mythology and remnants from the viking age.
I loved Askeladden as a villain, he felt like i dark twin of the original myths, his backstory and desire to rise above his brothers and the way he gather people with specific skills around him. It all had the common traits of a Askeladd story, but with a darker twist to it.
Vinland Saga takes a lot of historical liberties but then it makes sense for it to do so because the Saga of the Greenlanders and
Erik The Red's Saga are both legendary accounts of real historical events. Vinland Saga is literally what it says on the tin.
Its a tale of a tale of a tale...
I’m starting to realize I’m just like my grandpa watching history channel 24/7… when I look at my favorite manga it’s all historical based Manga
lol I can very much relate
I wonder how the manga will end... I really don’t want it to end tragically for Thorfinn like in real life 😭
Thanks for history spoiler dude😭
@@user-il5io5xi8k fr bruh
@@shigeokageyama4458 as soon as I remembered that Vikings left bummed me out
@@user-il5io5xi8k I mean......what do you expect someone like him in history to live happily ever after? Only some do.
Iirc his son becomes an important person for Christianizing the nords. In fact there’s more info on his son Snorri than Thorfinn, basically a much more culturally and religiously important character than his father.
We know Vinland will fail, but Thorfinn’s story might have a happy ending in the long run.
Something they skipped in Vinland Saga was the role of poetery to the old Norse. Poetry was GIGANORMOUS in the viking world. It was an oral culture where the skald and poetry was tv, the movies, high culture and low culture, history department, legal department, everything. They could create poetry on the fly and they would memorize stories of enormous length and complexity.
It might have been the right choice to skip poetry, from a story telling perspective. Just thought I should mention it.
Not only that but the entire pagan cults are missing. Tho maybe preferable.
well, Season 2 opening did recite old norse poem
@@kotarojujo2737 Ah, have not watched Season 2, thank you for tip. I do not mind that the Japanese are telling Japanese stories in the skin of another culture. And non Christian cultures have some things in common.
Season 2 used a Norse poem so well. It added a dramatic effect by the end
I actually like that they skip that because the last thing I want to see is them butchering that part of Norse Culture.
I’m so impressed with the anime I actually had to look up some history to see how accurate the anime is
When you learn Bluetooth is named after a king and realize the logo is obviously a rune
Great video, Yuki did a lot of research visiting and touring places like Iceland before starting Vinland Saga to make his manga realistic and historically accurate in many ways.
Yeah, this anime is amazingly historically accurate, but one point: the Wales. It is not credible that Welsh warriors of the eleventh century would have used Roman armors and ships. What was Roman Britannia did not survived the retirement of the Roman legions and the invasion of the Anglo-Saxons, more than 500 years before the story told in the Vinland saga. Therefore, that part is totally anachronistic.
Michelangelo Cordenonsi You are 100% correct. I can’t believe I didn’t mention this.
Never heard "anachronistic" before...
Its kinda not tho. Things do retain. They didnt use the Roman armors but something that was remembered by it. Its perfectly plausible that they could wear and remember the Romans. Maybe not in reality but feasible nonetheless
@@zephyrr108 Come on. At that time, not even the remnant of the Roman Empire used the antiquate armors, garments and ships showed in Vinland saga. Those were used during the first two centuries of the Roman Empire, but later gradually dismissed. At the time the legions left Britannia, they were not in use anymore, if not for ceremonies by the elites in Rome and Costantinople.
Besides this, the Wales were part of the Roman province of Britannia where people were less accustomed with Roman civilization. That part of Britain was the first in which the signs of Roman civilization disappeared after the legions left, 500 years before the time of the settings of Vinland saga.
You make a good point but there were a few places sprinkled throughout Britain where the local lords made a big deal about continuing the legacy of Rome and having Roman ancestors. It didn't amount to much other than maintaining examples of art and architecture because they were never super high ranking and were probably making the ancestors up for legitimacy but still
Actually, Cnut's mother is known. She is Sigrid the Haughty, also known as Gunhild, who assasinated king Swayn.
Yes and she's a daughter of polish prince Mieszko I, first historic ruler of Poland. So technically Mieszko is grandfather of Cnut the Great.
4:52 My hatred for ANTIFA just increased even more...😪
"This video is spoiler-free"
Also: "Thorfinn marries Gudrid" god dammit dude ! xD
But awesome video, thanks.
Sorry! It is a part of history but I could have been a bit more careful with my wording.
Didn't know history class can be this epic!
I used to Hate history lol
Brilliant work, please do more!! I really loved it.. Season 2 can't come soon enough !!!
Great video. The effort you put into research is phenomenal.
Knutt's growth was amazing in the first season
Peter Cho It was! I seriously hated him at first but now he’s one of my favorite characters.
@@BradleyGearhart ok but who asked
Knut is actually wroten with 1 T
@@xxxchild_predatorxxx107 me
It is written Canute everywhere you look
if only history was taught in the form of anime, I would go to class on time every day and pay attention.
great video man, i’ve found out about this manga/anime and read it in a couple of days it was awesome. You did a great job in making a comparison between the history and anime really enjoyed this!
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Prediction for the ending of Vinland Saga:
Snorri who is older and now a missionary, is telling stories about Vinland that were told to him by his father Thorfinn to a group of small children
in Normandy. One of those small kids is absolutely fascinated by the story but the other kids make fun of him and call him a bastard.
Snorri asks the kid what his real name is and the kids tells him "William".
Yeah I know it's not the most historically accurate thing but again neither is the manga and it would be a pretty epic way to end the series.
who tf is William
@@Saint0999 William the conqueror is the first king of england from normandy after taking the lands from the first kings of england, kings of wessex.
Ooh this is cool
I hope there is also a saga of Varangians that served under east roman or byzantine empire
@@rouymalic4463 Yeah, Harald Hadrada was one I can think of who had been in the guard.
This was cool, thanks for this 👍🏾
Just a sidenote at 12:25. Scania (skåne) was part of Denmark at that time. Similarly, it would be like describing Jutland as a different region to Denmark when in fact it's all Denmark. When talking about Sweden, as in Cnut the Great also ruled parts of Sweden, it's pretty much the area of todays Sweden besides Skåne. The map however makes Scania bigger than it actually was, is.
Great video, btw.
Not really. Canutes title was "king of Denmark, Norway, England and some of the Swedes." Historians believe that those "some Swedes" were eastern Geats who had voluntarily pledged allegiance to him.
THEY KILLED THORFINN'S STATUE!!!
Thank you for this upload.
I can't wait in next season!
Merci pour la vidéo. C'était très intéressant 👌
If you do another video like this for the events shown in the show you gotta add the opening attack from episode 2.
This attack was carried out on a saturday when the vikings in the Danelaw were bathing (vikings were know to be quite clean bathing once a week, many suggest on saturdays)
King Sweyn later says this attack is the excuse for his invasion, which would make these attacks what is known as the The St Brice’s Day Massacre
The St Brice’s Day Massacre took place on 13th November 1002, A SATURDAY.
i swear this series is so intricate.
very useful video, thanks!
PineapplexTouch I’m glad and you’re very welcome!
My guess of how it will play out:
The Norse settlers get into a conflict with the natives. Thorfinn realizes the fallen nature of man, as long as there are humans, there will always be war. He leaves Vinland and is reintroduced to the Gospel, so he decides that the land of peace he seeks can only be attainable in Heaven, then converts to Christianity. He goes back home, meets up with Canute, builds a church, and years later his grandsons are ordained as bishops. Also, Canute gets into a fallout with Wulf.
Sounds plausible considering who the real Thorfinn’s descendants were, plus all the clues appearing in the Farmland arc (the lamb, conversation on being born again, Thorfinn listening into a Bible reading).
I really hope Thorfinn converts. Another thing that supports this theory is Hild, whose father’s last words to her were: “Later on, when you feel like the hatred and anger threaten to crush your soul, remember the teachings of Christ. Forgive your fellow man, for forgiveness is your only salvation.” I believe that if she forgives Thorfinn (perhaps for the colony’s failure), Thorfinn may end up converting due to her forgiveness for his numerous transgressions
That’s what I’m thinking. I’m about to start book 10 but the only way the journey to Vinland can end is in failure. Historically, thorfinns child is born in Vinland but they end up leaving.
I think he realizes at the end the only heaven one can build in within themselves. It would be a nice message. It’s not about religion but about finding that peace within yourself and with the people around you. A great end to his arc.
Vinland saga is brilliant.
You lost me at the conversion to Christianity 😂😂 I hate how we abandoned our Gods
Basically, it is difficult to directly refer to the actual fanatic cult religion Westerners are too obsessed with religion, so someone starts to get angry
No more fanatic religion fight
@@calcaleb7041 but he was Christian, most of the Nordic people where Christan at that time
Great vid
great video dude, keep it up
sticcy fingers Thank you greatly! I’ll do my best.
i actually thought it was entirely historical ficiton, the fact that such a captivating show can be so surprisingly accurate is amazing
great video
This video is fantastic. This greatly deepens my appreciation for both Vinland saga and our actual human history
Very interesting video. Also, while I personally enjoy your calm pacing, I have an editing suggestion! You could easily have started talking during the slow channel intro text. A slow intro might turn some people off on this platform. You have a very pleasant voice, and together with music, it could actually work as a better intro too. You could even say something like welcome!
Sorry! As a creator myself I just have a habit of picking things like this up. I also always wanna support small channels
Wow thank you!
I never knew Canute was so cool
I was hoping they would go the Byzantium and show the verengian guard. The series has so manny elisions to Ancient Rome and stoic philosophy it would make sense for them to go the the seat of Roman power.
Thank you
My man really just spoiled who Thorfinn marries. 😓
good video!
Thanks!
I never thought it was based on real historic people. I'm only on episode 2 and now I love this Viking anime so much more now. Thanks for teaching this to us sir 🤩🤩
They need too make it a movie
Hey everybody it's Leif erickson day a hinga dinga drugen.
Great video!
Thank you!
Wowwww Bjorn and Rangar’s bloodline
i knew it was somewhat accurate but holly it does a great job of mixing fiction and non fiction holly idk the name of the author but this is just such amazing writing foes anyone know if the author has any other work then just vinland saga
so, i've read up on Thorkell the tall, and what i've read is basically that Thorkell was known as "a man bigger than the biggest man", hinting that he was 7'7 feet tall. for reference, Richard Kiel, the actor most famous for playing Jaws in the James Bond movies was 7'2. historically, the tallest living man was a man named Robert Wadlow at the height of 8'11. for reference, Goro from Mortal Kombat is 8'2. everything else about Thorkell the tall checks out, asides from what you've mentioned in this video. the only thing we have in written record of Thorkell the tall is a runestone describing his life.
Sad Fact: if the manga is really historically accutate, then thorfinn will die from the indian arrows. But there is still hope for a happy ending. We just never knew
That is not true: Thorfinn Karlsefni returned to Greenland, and he even brought two indigenous children with him, which he baptized
It's still fiction manga lol
Doesn't have to be historically accurate. If you want to see the accurate story, go to history class. This is entertainment only and should be fun more than real history
That's not sad fact lol
absolutely need to know what the name of the intro song is
Дуже дякую за ваші субтитри українською, це дуже не звично бачити англомовні канали, що намагаються робити контент зрозумілий для багатьох країн світу, моя щира повага.
Thank you very much for your subtitles in Ukrainian, it is very unusual to see English-language channels trying to make content understandable for many countries of the world, my sincere respect.
What confusing me right now is, is the iceland that they are talking in anime is ICE-LAND? Or GREEN-LAND?
9:33 editing mistake
Merci de la trad fr super vidéo 👍
Merci Beaucoup! Avez-vous regardé avec des légendes en français? Si oui, avez-vous pu comprendre la traduction? Je ne m'attendais pas à ce que ce soit très compréhensible.
@@BradleyGearhart ça aller très bien après j'ai pas vraiment était attentif à l'orthographe
interesting
5 second in:
“Ok so Thorkell can definitely throw a spear like a Ballista. Check!”
intro ost is so good, what is callled pls?
What is the song in the beginning?
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@@BradleyGearhart Thank You!
GroovyGoomba221 You’re welcome! Sorry it took so long to get to you
Спасибо за русские субтитры чувак!
Не знаю чому відео зарекомендувало тільки зараз, але все рівно дякую за цікавий контент і українські субтитри)
Askeladd fathers name is Olaf btw
This is somewhat a spoiler but where Vinland Saga is at now in the manga, Gudrid had announced her pregnancy and if the baby is not named Snorri like in the history then I don’t want it.
I’m glad I watched that live action Viking show
How are u gonna say no spoilers but have spoilers😔
Good video tho, thank you for posting
Makoto You Chimera is crazy.
Great video, but just to clarify it is speculated that thorkell after 1023 made his to poland as he had some kind of realation with polish kings and yes someone already said this but canute mother is also well known to be Świętosława the daughter of first historically known polish ruler Mieszko I, also how did youtube recommend me this video is still a mistery to me.
I also would encourage people to read about the town of jomsborg as interesting side note in polish history
Thors the best warrior! He beat thorkel with just one punch and that dude is 9'6 😂
Heres another fact tho the name Thor and kell is actually the english trasnlation for Tor and kjell so originaly the characters names is actually
Torfinn
Tor
Torkjell
And for cnut his name is actually spelled with an K not an C in norse so cnuts name is Knut in norse
Just some small facts there for ya as i am norse my self i am from norway so i easly know what the characters actual names are😉
Sweyn is read as Sven
my family descended from Vikings so its so weird to hear how they lived back in those days compared to how we live now i honestly think theyd either fall in love with or shitt themselves if they ever saw a gun xD
Many unrelated people claim to be descendants because it's sounds cool
@@novrinkov0053 yea but those people arnt me we actually did. do research on the sturgill name.
"my family descended from Vikings."
Nuh uh dmbss. Look at the person with Minecraft profile picture, do you know how many vikings are there? There are many, basically people who lives on the same country as you, is the descendants of viking.
This is literally the same as saying, "I am a descendants of Adam." Literally everyone is Adam descendants.
Typical eight grade IQ:
@@hanksturgill7366"my family descended from Vikings."
Nuh uh dmb s. Look at the person with Minecraft profile picture, do you know how many vikings are there? There are many, basically people who lives on the same country as you, is the descendants of viking.
This is literally the same as saying, "I am a descendants of Adam." Literally everyone is Adam descendants.
Typical eight grade IQ:
Hello! I would like to ask where did you learn about Thord's connection to Bjorn Ironside (4:17) As i was very intrigued by that.
So no one's gonna talk about Harald Bluetooth
Vinland saga pronounces it Thor- kell and it sounds so much better than Thorkel like your only saying it with one L, like the word snorkel. Not sure which is historically accurate but one definitely sounds better.
The two LL’s make a “tl” sound in modern Icelandic
Isn't thorfinn the descendant of ragnar????
The sculptor name was einar🤣🤣🤣
you're bullshitting 🤣🤣
Does Askelads real name Lucius Artorius Castus match up with anyone historically?
you were way ahead. you literally did a season 1 aqnd two recap 3 years earlier than season2
👍
Harald *Bluetooth* 😂
Probably where the name came from
It absolutely is!
Why widows in particular?
Ofcourse Thors and Thorfinn are op they are ancestors of Ragnar and Bjorn Ironside.
Ragnar and Bjorn Ironside lived before the events of Vinland Saga
Boi
cool
The best anime ever bro ❤
واحد من افضل الاعمال
DENMARK REPRESSENT!! yeahh!!
Damn it why they take down thorfinn's statue.
From what I can find online the statue was a meeting stop for a white supremacist group in Philadelphia. So it likely wasn’t toppled because it was of Thorfinn, but because of the people that used it for a meeting place.
You don't need to have the title changed into different languages, at least in Swedish, as the Swedish audience that would watch this probably already know good English. It comes across as a bit weird. Also, the video is still in English so you would still need to understand that.
Am I the only one that wishes Thorfinn coulda just reappeared out of his dragged down statue and took out the entire mob of Antifa?
i would've enjoyed that
I'm also a huge fan of viking series Ragnar, I wish thorfin meet Ragnar in this series
They didn’t live during the same time
@@herkales it can be happen because Vinland saga is a fiction series anime,
Wouldn't make sense since Ragnar died in 865 meanwhile this show takes place after the year 1000
@@Borbor33e but even in most fiction time is realistic(and also the fact Ragnar would be like his great great grandfather)
Why would the damned meat heads throw a century old thorfinn action figure into the ocean
Summertime saga x vinland saga
Dont tell me that herald Bluetooth own bluetooth in his generation
Haha bluetooth and the rune icon of its logo, are indeed directly based on Herald Bluetooth
harald bluetooht.....;
Why tell there wont be spoilers and then drop spoilers on canute like
Where is The vinland in the manga exist now?
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Please a video with spoilers!!!