Sonic Overture - The Saturn Sonic We Never Got

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ความคิดเห็น • 302

  • @koemon_exe
    @koemon_exe 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Even though I knew the original title and thumbnail wasn't done in ill intention, it was admirable that you considered how it can be interpreted as hurtful, so you did the right call and rebranded it. Instead of arguing with the person who accused you, you guys took the respectful and responsible approach and corrected your mistake. I really appreciate all the hard work you guys do for this channel and I love how everything you guys do is for the betterment of all the fans. Ive been a fan since day one and Im always looking forward to seeing more!

    • @Wiziliz
      @Wiziliz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What happened?

  • @TommyDeonauthsArchives
    @TommyDeonauthsArchives 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    This video's title really sounds like something Jon would write.

  • @junbird
    @junbird 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

    I honestly think that the "I hope that Sega makes this fangame official" mentality should be dropped once and for all. To begin with, that kind of thing happened precisely once, 15 years ago or something like that, with the Sonic CD remake. It happened because that was truly an exceptional reverse-engineering work which SEGA would have hardly been willing (or even capable) of doing by itself. Following that, the same people behind that remake (which had earned some serious credibility from SEGA) kept pitching projects, up until Sonic Mania, which was developed from the very beginning under Sonic Team's supervision (for better or worse). Other than that, I truly do not think that SEGA is interested, or has ever been interested, in investing money in random fan projects, as good as they may be: if they want to sell a new Sonic game, they just make a new Sonic game (as they just did with superstars). I might add that making a fangame official would not make it better automatically.

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Well said. And I think it’s just another example of toxic fandom as it seems to be more of them giving the middle finger to official games more than it’s praising some well down work.

    • @karnovrpg
      @karnovrpg 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      No, I disagree. The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog was yet another 'fangame' turned official and it turned out great because talented people put their heart into it.

    • @junbird
      @junbird 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@karnovrpg I honestly was not aware of that, however SEGA publishing that game looks more like of a publicity stunt than anything else (it very much reminds me of that time Capcom sponsored the Megaman Vs. Street Fighter fangame). Notice that I'm not trying to belittle this game, which looks kind of neat.

    • @karnovrpg
      @karnovrpg 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@junbird Well, by calling it a publicity stunt that is kind of belittling it. But I'm just gonna say, it doesn't seem like you played it so you should try it (its free after all, which is more than I could say about Superstars)

    • @dimitridsmoreira
      @dimitridsmoreira 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@junbird I mean, AT FIRST it looks like a publicity stunt, but in reality the publicity stunt was actually a joke in itself! The actual game, as simple as it is for a visual novel, was actually really charming and sincere. You can tell it was made by people who genuinely loves the franchise and its characthers. The behind the scenes on why it was made is also really cool.

  • @putridscene
    @putridscene 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Sonic Triple Trouble 16-Bit is on par with mainline entries, at least in my opinion.

    • @Lightspeeds
      @Lightspeeds 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I agree with your opinion.

  • @markcampbell8590
    @markcampbell8590 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Sonic and the Fallen Star is also amazing! There’s also a demo for Sonic Galactic and they’re all solid. It’s really cool getting into more sonic fan games

    • @GVG
      @GVG  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      As I was editing I stumbled onto Galactic and now I need to check it out!

    • @Laekith
      @Laekith 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah these two and Triple Trouble 16-Bit are definitely my favorite.

  • @liamsgreatbitgaming
    @liamsgreatbitgaming 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Bad title, guys. This mentality hurts both fan games and official releases alike

    • @gmoneythestickman
      @gmoneythestickman 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This game would get the mega man x4 treatment if it was on the Saturn

    • @Jonqen
      @Jonqen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What was the title?

    • @liamsgreatbitgaming
      @liamsgreatbitgaming 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Jonqen something along the lines of “the fans made a better game than sonic superstars”

    • @Jonqen
      @Jonqen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@liamsgreatbitgaming Ahh okay. I love sonic superstars and I agree its a bit harsh

  • @andreou3335
    @andreou3335 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    This fan game should be praised, not used to put down official work, that's not its purpose.
    I'm not really a fan of Superstars but I don't find it necessary to compare it to fanworks like this :/ Or at least, that's what the title implies.

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I AM a fan of Superstars.

    • @WaddleDee105
      @WaddleDee105 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@benmalsky9834 Feel sorry for ya, bud...

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WaddleDee105 WHY?!

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WaddleDee105 PLEASE, don’t feel sorry for me. It really is a great game.

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WaddleDee105 Don’t insult me!!

  • @Wimpyfox
    @Wimpyfox 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I think the idea of this game being picked up officially is wishful thinkint AT BEST. lol. There are tons of fan games similiar quality to this game honestly, (Sonic Definitive Edition, Galactic, Robo Blast 1 Remake, Hoshi, Legends, Triple Trouble 16Bit, Hellfire, Megamix Mania, Sonic CDX etc.) but most, like Overture, are one or two zone demos that are usually Sonic 1 Zone clones and never get completed.

    • @NintenSegaPlay
      @NintenSegaPlay 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This channel feels often a bit weird regarding Sonic videos. It feels like they know a bit about this franchise but you can very often get clues that they don't know THAT much, like acting like Sonic Overture is the first time we saw a fangame with this kind of pixel art (and this title...)

    • @Wimpyfox
      @Wimpyfox 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@NintenSegaPlay Sonic fan discovers an amazing 1-2 zone demo with a green hill clone for the first time and actually expects it to be completed. (How do we tell them)

  • @JCSA79V
    @JCSA79V 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    We're still using fanworks to put down official ones?

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I hate that people are still resorting to that.

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Very low hanging fruit if you ask me.

  • @Laekith
    @Laekith 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It's hard to get excited about Sonic fangames after Sonic and the Fallen Star, that game set the bar so high.
    Edit: Nevermind I played the demo, it's amazing.

    • @davidclaxton3674
      @davidclaxton3674 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm looking forward to Moon Facility (same developers).

  • @bananabike279
    @bananabike279 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This looks great! It definitely is going for the same "mystical" vibe that a lot of Saturn game were going for like Astal and NiGHTS.

  • @svenwesker8364
    @svenwesker8364 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Really good job on the video, Steve. I really do enjoy the passion youre showing for this fangame. But I think for the sake of the devs of Overture, knowing that Sonic fangame devs dont like their creations being compared to a full official game, please change the title and caption of the video to something like Sonic's Really Promising fangame. I will say the title is giving off negative vibes given that it really isnt fair to compare a 2 stage demo to a fully finished official product. Plus doing what you did with the title kinda goes against the "Good Vibes" in the channel name.

  • @SpiderKnife1
    @SpiderKnife1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    After watching the video, on its content I enjoyed it and was really nice hearing Steve's clear passion and enjoyment for the demo!
    But for the title for the video (not the thumbnail title), I'm not sure how I feel that it draws negative attention & clickbaity attraction on Superstars when Superstars didn't even get named dropped until Steve mentions the Rabbit - which the character wasn't birthed from that game but simply was used as a reference point as it's something that has been brought to attention in recent times & is just a history tidbit to Sonic's history. Nothing inherently to do with Superstars whatsoever.
    I'm just not sure if I'm fond of the idea that the game has a comparison-inspired title when Steve doesn't bring up an opinion comparison to the game. It just draws the idea, at least for me, that it's only present for TH-cam engagement, and a false one at that. The title could of been held as how fond this demo was felt on its own than sadly percieve to seek engagement by bringing up another game that didn't even get discussed in the video.
    (P.S. Apologies for how rambley this comment was constructed & I repeated myself a few times - wrote it in abit of a rush. I hope it was enough however that my personal thoughts were clear)

    • @btd0ja
      @btd0ja 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think it’s pretty bullshit that people (including this channel) spent months hyping up how exciting Sonic Superstars seemed, and now within the last couple weeks we’ve gotten two separate videos about Sonic games “better than Superstars.” Really feels like biting the hand that feeds

    • @grdfhrghrggrtwqqu
      @grdfhrghrggrtwqqu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      if r34 fetishists have any hold on the game, it oughta be cancelled into the ground. The community needs to take a stance.

    • @AvoJoJoNotes
      @AvoJoJoNotes 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree. For a channel name like Good Vibes Gaming, it’s definitely off brand. I’m glad they’ve since changed the title.

    • @SpiderKnife1
      @SpiderKnife1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@btd0ja I can't argue how the other video you speak of was handled, but I'd argue for anyone let alone any channel that we are all entitled to be hyped and express any form of excitement we have for anything, let alone Sonic.
      Heck, even when the game/product is out, if our feelings ends up being disappointment, that's perfectly normal and shouldn't be used against them that what someone's first appeal for something upcoming was sadly didn't satisfy them when they got to experience the product.
      My quarm and why I expressed in the way I did here is that regards how you feel about Superstars or anything, to use something else in your title that has nothing to do with the content the video is providing, is leaning towards the use of engagement for the wrong reasons and having the potential to create a response of which the content of the video had zero reason to be about.
      If Steve said for at least a couple sentences and had constructive reasoning in this video that how he thinks this is better than Superstars, then it all becomes a different story cos at least he says it and the title isn't misleading. But in this instance, he didn't bring it up at all, and yet the title gave me the impression that the video will delve into that "this side is better than the other side" angle. There's nothing inherently wrong making a video doing that, that's not my argument here. Everyone is entitled to feel how they feel, it's what makes us human and is encouraged so long as it's not done aggressively and belitting those who may like what you dislike, but to use it falsely when based on this video it's actually a wholesome listen on what Steve finds in the demo of this fangame and what it means to him, that's when I think the title decision is used falsely.
      Side note: I feel like now with how much I've written I've made this bigger than what I intented to apply and share, but I just wanna cover the best I can how I felt about, & that in my opinion is a misuse of marketing this video, aside from a 2nd opinion that in this instance, is trying to use a negative opinion of another game, and give it a comparison argument for what this fangame's quality is, when, apologies for my repetitiveness, this video spoke about the other game none at all other than a character reference.

    • @SpiderKnife1
      @SpiderKnife1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AvoJoJoNotes Definitely & I concur with your brand comment - that didn't cross my mind and yet is very true. Kudos to them amending this!
      I just stress that I hope this doesn't become a practice going forward (even though I'm basing this on this one video and there's no hint to my knowledge of this occuring previously) that for the initial day upload it's one title to try and encourage an engagement subject matter that the content doesn't provide, and then is edited later when the viewer awareness naturally dies down.
      But to end on a positive cause I'm not intending to drag this through the mud and suggest a bigger issue is present - nice one guys for tweaking your title to be more accurate 👏

  • @celesticnova
    @celesticnova 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Please change the title and thumbnail. Pitting games, official or fan made, against one another doesn't help anyone.
    I want to watch this video but it'd feel wrong to in its current state.

  • @dimitridsmoreira
    @dimitridsmoreira 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    As much as i love how Steve wants to show to more people a great Sonic fangame like Overture, there is something about this video that felt....off to me? I don't know, i feel like Steve was trying too hard to say how "this thing is better then this thing" in a weird tone. Also i found it strange how he compares Mania as if it was a Genesis style game and Overture as a Saturn one, since the Sonic Mania devs literally confirmed that Mania was made as if it was a classic Sonic game released on the Saturn. And "waiting for the next big thing since Sonic mania"...I mean for the 2D games i guess, but in terms of the whole franchise we got a lot of big things since Frontiers. So Steve i'm sorry if you are seeing this, but this video just gave me a weird vibe....

  • @thesquadron7571
    @thesquadron7571 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Stopped partway through the vid to go play it, and MAN it's good! Definitely needs a good bit of polishing, of course, but there's so many good ideas in it! Love the ball rolling sections, and the boss fight of the second zone just felt so right and was a pleasant surprise. Hope to see more of the game in the new year!

  • @M64bros
    @M64bros 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I still like Sonic superstars just the way it is. And as for this fan game it's still very cool, Don't give me wrong but I like it for free on the internet just the way it is.
    Sure, Sega allows fan games, but I honestly don't want them to hire those fans to make the games for them. Because my concern is they can hire the wrong fans that can easily affect the sonic brand and IP easily just like how Sonic omens did.
    By the end of the day I like both games just the way they are

  • @seanmcbay
    @seanmcbay 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That LA PC port didn’t disappear from the internet. You can find it extremely easily.

  • @joyconboyz1409
    @joyconboyz1409 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I played this yesterday. Great sprite art; but the level design leaves a lot to be desired.I hope the levels can get a overhaul because the idea of this game is so so cool.

    • @ducus
      @ducus 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah that's what I noticed from the B-roll. It just does not look nearly as well designed as S3K/Mania.

  • @antony3213
    @antony3213 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "MEJOR QUE SUPERSTARS"
    Es un fangame con los visuales genéricos de todos los fangames 2d de Sonic

  • @kiToro945
    @kiToro945 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In Sonic 1s Manual they state that Eggman uses animals as fuel for the badniks for the very first time which is why they chose to use fireworks

  • @melon3109
    @melon3109 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Doesnt have Trip so its physically impossible to be better than superstars. I dont make the rules.

    • @scrunkore
      @scrunkore 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      real

  • @ugandaknucklesthe24th
    @ugandaknucklesthe24th 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love how many Easter eggs they put in this game like at 1:37 there's a reference to sonic cd from the opening

  • @twocandan1979
    @twocandan1979 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I mean, it looks fine, I guess? I'm honestly not seeing what makes this on par with Mania or better than Superstars. Looks like a fairly standard fan game imo?

  • @Boo-gt8gg
    @Boo-gt8gg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    please focus on spreading more positivity with future branding. this is GOOD VIBES gaming, theres just enough cynicism out there. we can be honest but also fair

    • @sirmel11
      @sirmel11 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't know why people expect them to be positive on everything. The channel name means nothing. They can be critical of things. There definitely haven't been "good vibes" the whole time.

  • @NintenSegaPlay
    @NintenSegaPlay 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Bad title that make it sound like the fangame is trying to compete with the official one, hopefully you guys will change it

  • @josephoconnor9279
    @josephoconnor9279 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It would be nice if this got a physical release.

  • @andrestapia1493
    @andrestapia1493 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +87

    Wow, a Sonic fan game that's better than an official Sonic game. Haven't seen that before.... 😅

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I hate it when people say that.

    • @Oshamoff
      @Oshamoff 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@benmalsky9834 Unfortunately it's easy engagement bait.

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Oshamoff But why though?

    • @stug5041
      @stug5041 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It’s further evidence of the love and passion for this character - Sega should be taking pitches from these folks - plenty of fodder for $20 digital releases that, while not going to be selling millions and millions, could easily turn a nice profit

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@stug5041 Not every fan game has to be like that. We can like BOTH fan games ANd official games at the same time.

  • @Akiga_games
    @Akiga_games 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video! This game looks fun!

  • @bleujae68000
    @bleujae68000 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    While apart of me wishes it would have stayed canceled, I think it's really commendable that folks are trying to give it second life. Let's just hope things turn out better this time around.

  • @kenrulei09
    @kenrulei09 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    i highly disagree with this title, the level design is not good and that makes or brakes platforming games...

  • @delportaustin
    @delportaustin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Here before they change the title bc it sucks LOL

  • @staticshock4239
    @staticshock4239 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What about Sonic Triple Trouble 16 bit remake? That game was really good.

  • @mljh11
    @mljh11 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This really does resemble a professional-quality release. Only thing i don't like about it is the strange decision to place floor snap points on top of pillar or totem-like objects. It doesn't add much flavor and breaks the flow of the gameplay.

    • @Tangarisu
      @Tangarisu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The idea comes from the sonic CD intro and the way sonic moves in the OVS Movie.

  • @dittom3426
    @dittom3426 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    What’s with the all lowercase title?
    Also I don’t think it’s really good vibes to put down another game to prop up another. Maybe something like “One of the new best 2D Sonic games!”

    • @TheDarkYoshi64
      @TheDarkYoshi64 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Nah the title speaks the truth lol

    • @andreou3335
      @andreou3335 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree

    • @Klaxynd
      @Klaxynd 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Say what you will, but I wouldn’t have clicked on it if it wasn’t compared favorably against another recent Sonic game.

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheDarkYoshi64Opinion, not truth

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheDarkYoshi64Please don’t see that as “truth”, people DO love Superstars.

  • @GhibliNova
    @GhibliNova 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Mania ethos was what if Sonic on Saturn

    • @mrterrychaos
      @mrterrychaos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If Mania, a 2D Sonic game with reused level themes, had released on Saturn while N64 was getting Super Mario 64, a game that set the standard for 3D platforming, Sonic fans of the time would have been livid. Gaming media would have torn it to shreds.

    • @GhibliNova
      @GhibliNova 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@mrterrychaos Okay? What does that have to do with what I said? Christian Whitehead said he wanted to make a Sonic game as it would have appeared on the Saturn and that was Mania, where does audience reactions/ media of 1990's apply to that statement?

  • @LopezXiann14
    @LopezXiann14 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the thumbnail and title fit a lot better! It definitely doesn’t put this game too much on a high pedestal while still saying it’s amazing nonetheless.

  • @Artista_Frustrado
    @Artista_Frustrado 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that being said, yeah this game is full of charm, however i kinda wish they could have used a low poly 3D Sonic model similar to how Rush does it
    also the level design could flow a tad better

  • @elumbreonespacial4361
    @elumbreonespacial4361 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fun fact: I think the fireworks are because Christmas Island is abundant in a component necessary to make them.
    (I hope that in the full game they add the Nightmare Monster as the final boss)

  • @chaossabermoo9697
    @chaossabermoo9697 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am really glad you changed the title of the video!

  • @MasonOfLife
    @MasonOfLife 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    2014 is basically a decade ago….I’m not okay

  • @toothfairy7765
    @toothfairy7765 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    You call yourselves “Good Vibes Gaming”, yet the vibe in the title of your video alone is unsavory and uncalled for.

    • @ncapone87
      @ncapone87 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are you an 86 year old grandma?

  • @DrybowoSuperstar
    @DrybowoSuperstar 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Edit: He did change the title to sumn that is actually kinda cool and not clickbaity, but gonna leave my comment just because I can, also lazy to change it to just take into account the new title
    I think this video is kinda eh considering the title is sumn that could anger sega or the devs of the fangame, or Superstars, but you are asking them to make it an official game, and being clickbait because you talk about the aesthetic and the story of the game being so cool, and how it has easter eggs and uses scrapped things of Sonic 1 development, but in no point of the video you talk about how the level design is aside of saying is kinda like mania, that I kinda disagree, as it has more platforming in mind compared to mania, and before saying sumn is better than this thing you need to take into count gameplay, and well, there was some odd things I found in the game design ngl, or the kinda bad volume balancing that makes the spindash an horror to use if you want to hear the music too
    Also the game just has 2 zones, and for example the first zones of Superstars from what I know are pretty cool, so, for now Overture just wins at like, bosses and aesthetic that is fine, but I dont think that makes it worth it to just call it better than superstars, and yeah saying this just because of the title, because in the video you don't do it at all
    I just don't understand why that clickbaity title ngl
    And yeah I know this is gonna help your engangement but idc I just want to say my opinion

  • @GamebustersUK
    @GamebustersUK 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's clear this is their attempt at reviving Sonic 1 Beta assets, hence why they set it before Sonic 1.

  • @terra636
    @terra636 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    imagine being a grown man working on a "Good Vibes" channel and uploading a video with all lowercase clickbait title pitting fangame and official devs against each other.
    also mouse is on screen

  • @super8bitable
    @super8bitable 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I’m so tired of this “hire this man” mentality fans like to push

    • @WaddleDee105
      @WaddleDee105 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe if Sega/Sonic Team actually put out great games instead of mediocre trite (and sell it for $60, no less!) than fans would stop doing this.

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WaddleDee105 They DO put out great game!

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WaddleDee105 Stop being so negative.

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m also extremely tired of it.

  • @YuseiTheSynchroHero
    @YuseiTheSynchroHero 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Looks REALLY promising!

  • @Rich12345620
    @Rich12345620 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sonic Mania could easily have run on the Saturn with the level of detail it has there is no way it could run on the megadrive. Game looks good not a fan of the shield sprite overtaking Sonics sprite though. FYI please put the fan games name in the vid title if you really want people to notice it for what it is.

  • @7animeaddict
    @7animeaddict 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tears in my eyes, you changed the title and thumbnail instead of standing on business 😂😂😂😂

  • @sergiomonty
    @sergiomonty 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    You know, praising a fangame by directly shitting on an official product that the devs weren't trying to compete with is not exactly the 'Good Vibes' I thought this channel was aiming for.I thought we learned from this. Enough with the piece of shit Kotaku behavior. You're putting the devs in a bad spot because fans can be incredibly toxic and violent when you start drawing dumb comparations for clicks. Do better Good Vibes.

  • @-king-1230
    @-king-1230 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Change the thumbnail and title for the love of god

  • @AlgaeEater09
    @AlgaeEater09 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This looks more like Sonic 2 level design. Mania was more sonic 3 level design.

  • @extraful1
    @extraful1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really hope this fangame gets completed. I think it truly nails what it's going for and I would love to see it as a full game.
    Sega won't hire them or become a producer, of this I'm sure, but this game certainly feels better than Superstars.

  • @blakey7892
    @blakey7892 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    nah, bro changed the title AND the thumbnail. The original title was ''this is better than sonic superstars'' and he probably changed it because of controversial reasons, but the thumbnail is better than the original, I guess. Also, why do you think that SEGA would pick up this game? Bro, I want it to stay fan made and u getting your hopes up to high lol.

  • @dane1647
    @dane1647 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The design looks a little rough. The lava squares are ugly. I am impressed with the tech and what they have so far tho. The animations are slick I really like the Bunny and the Enemies.

  • @magicalcapi9148
    @magicalcapi9148 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks incredible as usual from the community. As for the "I hope Sega officializes it", I'm not so sure. Sega is sure blessed with fan games, but considering what they did with Sonic Mania team, I do think that fans need to stay fans, unfortunately.

  • @JeskidoYT
    @JeskidoYT 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    We are thankful that Dream Team came out to overtake Sonic Superstars in ratings

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In my opinion, Superstars should have been rated higher because it is a great game.

    • @Artista_Frustrado
      @Artista_Frustrado 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      no we aren't, SuperStars is good & also deserves good ratings
      also the whole idea of "we can only have one well rated Sonic game" is pretty non-sensical

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jaretco6423 I think that it IS as good as those games and that it IS polished.

    • @Artista_Frustrado
      @Artista_Frustrado 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jaretco6423 yeah that's unrelated to the original point

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jaretco6423 I don’t see any big flaws with Superstars, to me it’s on par with Mania.

  • @TainoMoya
    @TainoMoya 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i am dizzy just lookin at that

  • @MikooOnYoutube
    @MikooOnYoutube 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There is no way you made a video about "the best Sonic fangame" and it isn't about Sonic Robo Blast 2

  • @HotdogDivebomb
    @HotdogDivebomb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sonic Overture looks neat, but I think your comments on Mania do it a disservice. The Mania team is on record as saying that Mania was designed as if it were the next step for Sonic when it reached the Saturn, which is the exact opposite of what you are saying in this video about it. Sonic Overture might be a different look at what Sega could have done with a 2D Sonic on the Saturn, but that doesn't make Mania any less of one.

  • @andrewoliver1330
    @andrewoliver1330 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wasnt digging the visuals but with context
    Thats neat, seems a bit off but neat

  • @Bowblax2
    @Bowblax2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There's so many Sonic fan games that SEGA should just give a budget and let release officially. My dream would be to see SEGA official release project 06

  • @samuraibeastwarrior2886
    @samuraibeastwarrior2886 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this game could had been Sonic The Hedgehog 4 on Sega Saturn

  • @HenshinFanatic
    @HenshinFanatic 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Graphically, it reminds me a bit of Astal.

  • @siljeff2708
    @siljeff2708 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Mouse on screen

  • @Artista_Frustrado
    @Artista_Frustrado 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is a great showcase of a fantastic Fan-Project buy BOT HOWDY!! Steve could not do it a bigger disservice by trying to Wish it into being a SEGA Product, straight up insulting to the idea of a Passion Project by stating that Fan Games could only be good if they are officially published, also it really sours the enjoyment to put both to the same kind of criticism (which spoiler alert for most Sonic fangames is not favorable)
    Not to mention is an objectively wrong leap of logic especially considering how un-polished official Sonic games are due to not having unlimited time to be worked on.
    also dude, under what rock have you been that you think Mean Bean Puyo is a "deep cut reference"? they have been referencing that since Sonic Forces, Sonic is straight-up playable in Puyo Tetris 2

  • @N7Link
    @N7Link 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks great now would like to play on my MacBook 😅

    • @Jonqen
      @Jonqen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Being a gamer on a macbook must be hell 😅. Im sorry

  • @mio3199
    @mio3199 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i rather be a cornball than making me to play this game with that title
    edit : cool they changed the title because someone in twitter told em so. Don't do that again ya bum.

  • @blurrydawgo5403
    @blurrydawgo5403 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mean, Overture looks good and hope the best for it, but… nah, it doesn't need to be officially funded by SEGA. That's not how Mania's development process worked, and it's not a healthy mindset to have in general. th-cam.com/video/FSirdtK9UiI/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared

  • @Howardpower679
    @Howardpower679 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is better than superstars 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓 All you guys do is talk shit about sonic jesus Crist

  • @PhilBo-fp9mz
    @PhilBo-fp9mz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why is it so similar to Sonic Legends

    • @picsandpixels6445
      @picsandpixels6445 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi, Im the artist and animator, and one of the story writers and concept people behind Sonic Overture~
      I see this question/sentiment alot, and I wanted to clear it up:
      Sonic Legends is a love letter to all Sonic Fan games!
      It is meant to act as the "Sonic Mania" of Fan games, and the team behind it chose to make Sunrise Gate the first representative zone of the game, representing Sonic Overture.
      It overhauls the art, music, and level design just like Mania did with Green Hill Zone.
      They also reached out to me before they did it to discuss all the details they needed to know to make sure it was accurately represented~

    • @PhilBo-fp9mz
      @PhilBo-fp9mz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@picsandpixels6445 OHHHH, I see that now. Im not sure how I saw Legends before Overture tbh 😭 I’m glad Legends got your act in! The liveliness u put into green hill is pure eye candy

    • @picsandpixels6445
      @picsandpixels6445 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PhilBo-fp9mz Well, Overture kinda slowed to a crawl not long after we released the first demo ^^;
      And then eventually production stopped altogether. Legends came out when Overture had halted entirely , years after the 2014 demo, and for many people, it was actually their introduction to Overture's elements :3
      Also its called SUNRISE GATE NOT GREEN HILL AAAAAAAAAAA 😂😂

    • @PhilBo-fp9mz
      @PhilBo-fp9mz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@picsandpixels6445 HEHEH, my bad 😅 Sunrise Gate has loads more personality

    • @picsandpixels6445
      @picsandpixels6445 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PhilBo-fp9mz WEVE BEEN OVER THIS. SUNRIIIIISSEEEEE😂😂
      Edit: There ya go! and thank you! X3

  • @MikeTheGamerGuy
    @MikeTheGamerGuy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Impressive but looks like a fan game.

  • @TaliesinMyrddin
    @TaliesinMyrddin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Link's Awakening game got nuked? Aw. Predictable but disappointing.

  • @jaretco6423
    @jaretco6423 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After how disappointing I was with Superstar, I wanted to have an good old classic style Sonic game that plays and felt as well as the other classic titles like 3&K and Mania. Fans seems to know that. There was an fan made game of an 16-bit version of Triple Trouble; which is an remake of the original TT and it's one of the best classic style Sonic game I've played since Mania and one of the best fan games I've seen. There's plenty more of good Sonic fan made games and at this point, I decided to sell Superstar for an better deal.

  • @GamerFunOriginallyAarush
    @GamerFunOriginallyAarush 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    OMG!

  • @afhamdanish1957
    @afhamdanish1957 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You know went sonic fans make fan games it's going to be good this community has a lot of talent went making a fan game and not going to do like cringe sonic oc

  • @sirensongss
    @sirensongss 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    being a fan game isn’t anything bad, i think the idea that any good fan game should be bought by sega is really reductive if the hard work done by fan devs. its not lesser than simply because its a fan work

  • @napoleonfeanor
    @napoleonfeanor 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nothing disappears from the internet easily. And Nintendo didn't even do something wrong in that particular case.

  • @benmalsky9834
    @benmalsky9834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Superstars also deserves appreciation for what it did.

    • @That_Lady_Charlie
      @That_Lady_Charlie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Superstars isn't bad. It just doesn't feel like a full-fat $60(USD) game.

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@That_Lady_Charlie But the game is still a blast to play.

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@That_Lady_Charlie I think it is if you really enjoy the battle mode.

    • @jaretco6423
      @jaretco6423 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@That_Lady_Charlie Superstar isn't an bad game. But it really misses the mark on how to make an quality classic Sonic game when compared to the Genesis Trilogy and especially Mania. Heck. Other 2D Sonic games like Advance & Rush Trilogy does it better than Superstar.

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jaretco6423 I completely disagree. It IS as good as Mania.

  • @mober7430
    @mober7430 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think Superstars is better than this but ok. Also, Sonic Triple Trouble 16 bit, P-06, Robo Blast 2 solo this game. But then again it isn’t finished.

  • @ZaneStarmann
    @ZaneStarmann 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damm whats with all the negativity in the comments?

  • @RYH141
    @RYH141 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should have keep the og title better then super stars because super stars and sonic is low mid

  • @02boots65
    @02boots65 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    "This is better than Sonic Superstars"
    Well imagine my shock! It's no suprise that anything from the fans has been infinity better than anything Sega themselves has done with the franchise since Generations (Mania doesn't count btw)

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, Superstars IS great!

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is not true, Sega HAS made some great stuff.

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I hate this argument.

    • @dimitridsmoreira
      @dimitridsmoreira 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      "Mania doesn't count". Oh yeah? So does Frontiers, and The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog....and Sonic Dream Team. You act like Generations was the last great thing but we had a lot of recent good stuff too....

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dimitridsmoreira Talk about out of touch or living under a rock.

  • @Yoshizuyuner
    @Yoshizuyuner 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sega should just make sonic maker

  • @selder_7
    @selder_7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That title just screams amateur and immature, do better

  • @sebastianbenavidesmorales2274
    @sebastianbenavidesmorales2274 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    SEGA should launch a program that allows new indie developers to subit their fan games projects in order to get them funded and officially released with their support, there's so many great ideas in the fan community that never leave the early demo phase

  • @paperdawn
    @paperdawn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bar's pretty low in regards to that title... jus sayin lol

  • @acwbit2368
    @acwbit2368 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This game was made in spite btw

  • @hyperdz8507
    @hyperdz8507 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The title is now insulting sonic mania 🤦.
    I prefer the previous one because f*** superstars 💁

  • @removehandlesplease
    @removehandlesplease 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Change the title NOW

  • @lpnp9477
    @lpnp9477 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If Sega can't even be bothered to give mania a sequel, I feel like their days of promoting fans to employees may be over

    • @Retrblu
      @Retrblu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Wasn't their fault that the team at evening star wanted to make their own original game (penny's big breakaway) and Christian Whitehead and Iizuka have mentioned that they're still on good terms so evening star could very easily come back

    • @jaretco6423
      @jaretco6423 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@RetrbluIf that's the case, than why didn't Sega hired them back to work on Superstar?

    • @Retrblu
      @Retrblu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jaretco6423 because they wanted to do their own thing, which was Penny's big breakaway

    • @jaretco6423
      @jaretco6423 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Retrblu It would've made Superstar an heck of alot better than what we got.

  • @VelvetAura
    @VelvetAura 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Keep the title of this video, don't change it! 😂

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, this title needs to be changed.

    • @VelvetAura
      @VelvetAura 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@benmalsky9834 they clearly agreed with you. what a shame that they have to hide the actual real opinion had in order not to "hurt people's feelings" jesus get over it it's a video game

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@VelvetAura Dude, I didn’t know they were actually going to change the title later.

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@VelvetAura They probably got some pushback from lots of other people who weren’t me.

    • @VelvetAura
      @VelvetAura 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@benmalsky9834 I'm not saying that you are the one to blame or something lol I'm just frustrated people got their undies in a knot over a title like that

  • @Trololo231
    @Trololo231 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm not a fan of 2d plataformers, even if they are great (like Mario Wonder), so i'll still be waiting for a 3d platformer with Sanic.

  • @Steven_Turquoise
    @Steven_Turquoise 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First comment

  • @SquishMTR
    @SquishMTR 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Sonic fans don't use work in progress fan games to put down official products and other fan games challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

  • @bregowine
    @bregowine 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sonic Team has been dropping the ball for a while. Meanwhile a few talented fans like Christian Whitehead seem to have a better understanding of what works for this franchise. Here is another example…

  • @benironside1264
    @benironside1264 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most games are better than sonic superstars .. was a MASSIVE let down

  • @SovereignVis
    @SovereignVis 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah but, if this takes place before Sonic 1, how does he know how to spin dash? He didn't have that skill until Sonic 2. 😅