Vergil had a really basic but strong moveset in DMC 3. Now he actually has to work a bit to wreck enemies, but once he gains concentration, demons just melt before him.
@ㅤㅤ Oh, Malphas and Artemis get launched for sure. Hell on Earth's enemy hit animation is basically the same as that of Nero using the Rocket Arm Super move to punch them up in the air, so all of the bosses Nero fights in the Story mode can be launched with it
The sound effects in DMC 3 were so crunchy and satisfying. I really missed that crunch when you wailed on the Sins, as opposed to hitting the wet sacks that were DMC 4's enemies
everyone here saying "I miss how DMC3 Vergil did this and that" meanwhile i'm here like "damn aint it cool when a character's attack animations reflect their character growth. damn aint it neat seeing the blue man having fun. damn Jackpot Cut"
At first i thought vergil had the same moveset on the 3 dmc games but now i realise that dmc4 brought almost every move to dmc 5 and they just made few additions that were not much but very good
Anytime you go on to a video like this there’s always someone bitching. It’s always “I like dmc v but I think the previous games are superior in every single way”. In dmc 4 everyone believes that additional screenshake equals more hard hitting moves when it’s just copy pasted along any move that looks like it hits hard. God this always gets on my nerves.
I think the wrong way is kind of his characteristic. His moves are designed for carrying the sword the wrong way and it makes him more badass. Actually the fact that DMC 5 makes him carry sword the traditional way is wierd and dissapointing to me.
I get that he holds it the wrong way in 3, but why is that the wrong way? Don't know anything about these kind of swords just curious. I mean if you were trying to draw your sword and immediately slice then surely you'd want the blade to already be in the correct orientation, or am I missing something here
@@absoluteshambles6905 not an expert, just a katana owner. when the sheath is attached to you, like a samurai traditionally does, then you do have the sword tip point the air. But when you’re holding it, like Vergil usually does, it is tip down. Idk know the real reason for this, but I do have experience based guesses. I have tried both ways, but my favorite is to hold the sheath. When the sheath is attached, you’re going to use two hands, and because of that, you draw it already facing the right way so you can quickly adjust your second hand after holding the sheath for a steady draw. When holding, you’re typically going to be using one hand, and your going to use the sheath as part of your attack too(like Vergil’s first two attacks with the Yamato) and having the tip face down (mostly) stops the sword from flying out the sheath. When you wish to draw the katana out you just adjust the sheath too help you pull out the katana and attack. The katana is a very fun weapon, and though not the best sword, it is a very balanced fast and easy blade. It is quick to draw and light(for a sword) and if sharpened and taken proper care of, it’s razor sharp and can make very thin deep cuts, which trust me, SUCK. If you read all my rambling thank you.
He went from using the blade of the yamato to deflect projectiles to slapping and back handing projectiles mid air using the handguard of the yamato from cool to cooler lol
It's a nice detail seeing Vergil finally correct the way he holds Yamato by the sheathe by 5 compared to how his younger self carries it around in 3 and 4. Sure, Yamato is in most cases nigh-unbreakable. Holding it with the blade curved downwards probably wouldn't have put its edge at risk of dulling, and Vergil probably would have dismissed the possibilies of that happening (because damaging the Yamato is "totally" impossible). But I like to think that after he reunited with Yamato after it got absolutely bodied by mundus decades prior, Vergil decided to give the sword a bit more respect than he did back then.
The Yamato did break in dmc4, so I think "impossible" is a bit of a stretch, but hey, that could be a factor in how Vergil treat his sword now, with more care and respect.
This makes me wonder. I think vergil ALWAYS had judgement cut end. In DMC3, during the final fight with him, he says "THIS IS THE END" right before he vanishes and unleashes a seemingly endless barrage of judgment cuts that spans across the map and then vergil reappears after the duration has ended. Maybe that was a foreshadow to the real judgement cut end in DMC4 and DMC5?
I do like the tiny detail how they corrected the grip Vergil had on his Yamato all these years to how a normal Katana scabbard is wielded in hand. Despite how it may look, it's a hell of a lot more convenient than the grip he had in dmc3-4 to go from holding a sheathed Yamato, to doing some wacky pizza man shit with his literal dimension cutting sword.
I have a head canon Veg practices Yagyu Shinkagen Ryu, a more Cautious and Adaptive form of Kenjutsu, his mechanics and character fits this style best with the Concentration meter which is very Yagyu though ironically this school was founded by a Buddist Samurai who lived frugally and not Socially Darwinistic. As for how quickly he can use Force Edge a Longsword esque weapon, HEMA (especially the German style/Liechtenauer and the most likely style Dante uses) and Kenjustu have actually more in common than differences just differing in specific techniques due to how the blades are shaped.
After watching my bro play number 3 and then unlocking Vergil I knew from that day on I wanted to only play as him. Even with his basic moveset in that game he would shred the enemies. I only have cursory experience playing as Dante and Nero so I could not pull off nearly the same shit as them as I can as Vergil. DMC 5 gave us the Vergil quality of life changes he needed to truly shine. Even number 4 had his flaws since he couldnt block and only had one instant armor breaking move.
Vergil in DMC 4 was younger than in DMC 3, so he too was a little bit of a wacky woohoo marshmallow man. That's why he unsheathes Yamato more. In DMC 3 Vergil is more groosome because he left his beloved. That's why he act more precise and deadly. In DMC 5 Vergil just returned to the roots. He experienced being a casual human while being V, he found out he has an adult son (who kicked his ass), he realised that his quest for power was for nothing because he already has all the power he needs. He looks more happy. When he says "Jackpot", he smiles, you can see it. He is happy now because he has his family again. It is a good reason to become a showoff again.
Not at all. Itsuno based most of Vergil's moveset after watching Dan using a japanese sword. He liked how Dan used the japanese sword with more fierty in opposition to the smooth japanese style, making his style a mix of japanese-american and extrapolated that to Vergil's, that's all.
Also Vergil in DMC4SE is updated version of Vergil that's why he has wider moveset, because DMC3SE Vergil was limited in moves since he was literally playable boss, not because of plot. And I don't think that DMC4SE Vergil's story is "228 years ago" type, so he could change his style.
Just to clarify it's not that Vergil completely changed his devil trigger in dmc 5 from 3, in 5 thats his Sin DT, he has his original just like Dante uses till he gets his Sin DT, but he can still go in the original Vergil just chooses not to
I never noticed how the Nelo Angelo DT had given Vergil Kick 13 and Beast Uppercut all those years back :O Also, Mirage Edge's combos are based on Dante's Rebellion combo since DMC4, and its ability to cancel Million Stab mid-combo is taken from Alastor.
I wonder why they did not ever return that distortion cone effect in front of Vergil before the Judgement Cut itself. That looked so cool af for me; like, Vergil's cutting the space itself or something like that.
Some nice things about DMC5 Vergil are the recovery animations for Yamato. But Lunar Phase will always sound the best in DMC3. Not only is it beautiful but I love the voice work that goes with it. DMC3 Judgement Cut will always be a classic. Rapid Slash is amazing in DMC3 as well. DMC3 Rising Sun? *chef's kiss* Not only does it have the white light slice effect to it, Vergil sounds amazing when he does it as well. Spinning Hook Kick is the Original Kick 13 that Dante has in DMC1. Dan in DMC3 just sounds amazing to me.
This thing of giving Vergil Dante’s older moves & vice versa is pretty lame. But newer Vergil is still the shit. BUT GODDAMNIT RISING SUN SHOULD BE ITS OWN FUCKING MOVE
@@doncinati7644 fix his rapid slash(the DMC3 rapid Slash was better), remove yamato combo C or make it max concentration special move with a lot of damage, replace aerial rave B with DMC3 aerial rave, change his force edge combo, make rising sun its own move , maybe have the real impact-like move he does against Beowulf in DMC3 replace hell on earth. Kind of his super finisher.. Also Vergil doing million stab is seems out of character... And there you have it , there is not much to change but still they put minimal effort.. And switch input for Yamato combo A and B. ∆,∆,∆ should be input for his three hit Yamato combo ∆,∆, pause,∆,∆ should be input his four hit combo input
@@YuvrajSingh-wx6rx I agree with everything on this list bruh What’s crazier is that I thought I was the only one who thought it was retarded how Yamato B is a delay combo.... dude like even 4SE-5SE’s Yamato A animation FEELS like a delay combo, despite mashing it like I don’t get it
I kind of liked the way he holds Yamato on DMC3 It's Upright position really adds small personality to how composed yet ready he is as not many holds a katana like that.
@@disquietellie not exactly. They have different Aerial Rave A. Boss Vergil has Yamato Stinger instead of Void Slash. And effects of attack are different.
It’s worth seeing, I wanna see if animations are tweaked at all or if the visual effects changed. Obviously Dante has all the same moves for his own boss fight but even his E&I is slower
Playable version has more light blue/cyan attack aura while boss version is darker blue. Judgement cut is darker while also has more pronounced sound with boss compared to playable as well.
This is such a good development of movesets and overall game mechanics for one character. I hope they add Trish and lady and give them the same overhaul
I still love how DMC3SE Vergil has a certain kind of grace and deadliness. He doesn't draw Yamato as often as in DMC5 in his movesets but when Yamato comes out in DMC3 it was always deadly and quick. They should have put the DMC3 aerial rave A as default Aerial Rave for vergil instead of making it an S rank taunt in 5. Vergil was never meant to do a ballet spin in mid-air, he'd cut you down quickly without all the dancing. Also it was cooler when Vergil did his rapid-slash without turning around. Cool guys don't look at explosions. RIP old upper slash string.
Sure, but DMC 3 Vergil's Yamato moveset was based on the boss moveset, which was very limited and had short animations which hurt like hell. 4 and 5 attempted to balance and add to his moveset so that he had more tools like the other characters.
@@ZoMbi5lAy3r Yea I get what you mean, I just wish they didn't rip most of Vergil's moveset from DmC . That version of Vergil just didn't feel like Vergil and maybe because it was developed by some other studio. I get that maybe Capcom was trying to save budget by pulling the animations and mocaps from DmC, but I felt like they could have made a better Vergil if they just added new original moves evolved from DMC3 Vergil into DMC4SE and then evolve that further in DMC5SE.
@@lawrenegummy4736 And vergil in dmc3se was almost same as boss version only with some moves. While in dmc4se they added much more unique moves for him.
@@lawrenegummy4736 DMC5 Vergil has chill out a bit. Just look at Deep Stinger, it looks like Vergil just recently think of a cool moves. Vergil lose some moveset, but gain a new one. Void slash in particular, is quite cool.
@D35 12IY4NT0 dm4 se is just the game with more characters and costumes, the other stuff are untouched so its not worse its just the exact same game with more characters
To be honest, Vergil in DMC3 seem more classy and elegant, like how he sheaths Yamato. I also like how DMC3 Vergil doesn't talk much, compare to DMC5 Vergil, he seem more talkative, he has lines in every move, even when he SDT.
I like that he talks more in DMC5 but I don't like the direction they went with the moveset. In DMC3 Yamato was deadly and elegant, Vergil shouldn't unsheathe yamato and whack around like Dante's rebellion. When Vergil drew Yamato in DMC3 the damage was high with a big-ass slash arc and then he sheathes the blade quickly. The whole Aerial Rave C spinning around like ballerina in mid-air just didn't feel like Vergil. Capcom had to cheap out and rip Vergil's moveset from the garbage that is Ninja Theory's DmC.
Tbh the way Vergil fights in DMC5 seems more practical as he keeps his knees bent for more balance instead of directly standing up like his younger self did as Vergil fighting style is supposed to be more focused on being quick and efficient rather than Dante's style of showing off in battle and as for the talkative part Vergil is starting to change due to his experience as V and has started to accept his human side and as for an irl explaination it's probably wanted the VA to talk more for the fans
@@lawrenegummy4736 you do know Vergil and Dante both practiced with wooden broadswords when they were kids, even though he does uses Yamato like an actual katana, his first style was broadsword so it makes sense why some moves have him using Yamato like that
the dmc4 and 5 Vergil's were clear upgrades. you can tell they rushed a playable Vergil in dmc3, cause they didn't seem to bother giving him any extra moves for the player to use. the Yamato attacks were limited, force edge attacks were so so, and the beowulf moves were decent.
No extra moves? Lunar Phase, Force Edge Combo and Yamato Aerial Rave say hi. But I see what you mean. It doesn't matter anyways since DMC3 Vergil is by far the most balanced.
His basic Force Edge combo was better in 3, as well as teleports, also not having separate button for Rising Sun anymore :(. But FINALLY having Helm Breaker-esque move on Yamato is a blessing.
Some of these are not 1:1 comparisons. Vergil lost his standard DT, unlike Dante, and only transforms with Sin DT. Trick from DMC3 doesn't even come close to the versatility of Air Trick. My point is, this was an opportunity to show that things that no longer align ARE different. DMC3 DT could have been contrasted with Doppelganger (which IS the regular DT now) and Air Trick could have illustrated that DMC5 Vergil can do more with his default trick than DMC3 Vergil.
notice how DMC5 vergil always keeps his stance while sheathing the Yamato in the first couple of combos? he also turns around for rapid slash this this time.
It wasnt that high when i relooked at it. The camera for the 3rd one aimed up higher and was more under vergil so it seemed like he was more up in the air.
I wish DMC 5 Vergil had a normal devil trigger. I'm not a fan of the whole doppelganger thing for his base DT activate tbh. Also a bummer none of the games have had the amount of costumes that DMC 3 gave you. That game had a shit ton including the Nelo Angelo transform 😔
Vergils 3 and 4 devil trigger and voice lines is better than 5 to be honest, imagine 3 and 4' devil trigger and different DT per weapon were in dmc5's graphics
the only noticeable difference between these vergils is the way we can get them: The vergir of DMC 3 is achieved by beating the game in the definitive difficulty and the one of DMC 5 by buying it in the online store how things changed 😥 But I still highly recommend this game.
Vergil had a really basic but strong moveset in DMC 3. Now he actually has to work a bit to wreck enemies, but once he gains concentration, demons just melt before him.
You could say the longer the fight goes.... the more M o t i v a t e d he gets.
@ㅤㅤ Spamming that move is basically cheating. I think King Cerberus and Gilgamesh are the only demons that won't get launched up in to the air with it
@ㅤㅤ Oh, Malphas and Artemis get launched for sure. Hell on Earth's enemy hit animation is basically the same as that of Nero using the Rocket Arm Super move to punch them up in the air, so all of the bosses Nero fights in the Story mode can be launched with it
@@ZoMbi5lAy3r TASTETHEGOODBYE
@@ZoMbi5lAy3r or whatever the fuck he said😂
Good to see Vergil hasn’t lost his motivation since the third game
Third game? More like the first
He improved his Motivation, look what he done with the hell on earth move.
DmC
@@sepakvolley07 first for the plot but its the third game
3 is chronologically the 1st game
I like at 4:26 in 3 Vergil’s stance changes like he’s concentrating and in 5 he doesn’t move at all like it’s blinking to him now
1:23 love it how he says "Jackpot." when Dante isn't around and says it very very quietly
I missed hearing the sound of summoned swords shattered
The sound effects in DMC 3 were so crunchy and satisfying. I really missed that crunch when you wailed on the Sins, as opposed to hitting the wet sacks that were DMC 4's enemies
I miss his scream when doing lunar phase lol
@@thebigzan loved the aggression
@@thebigzan YESS same here.
This is a good idea
0:45 love the additional spin DMC 3 has
Dmc5 has it to but not as noticeable
This shows how motivated young Vergil was and how full of experience Actual Vergil is.
Young Vergil have Aged more than 300 Years
@@Uniquename12345a how
This shows how DMC5 sucks even from DMC3.
@@seronimome9294 ??
@@seronimome9294 then why are you even here?
everyone here saying "I miss how DMC3 Vergil did this and that"
meanwhile i'm here like "damn aint it cool when a character's attack animations reflect their character growth. damn aint it neat seeing the blue man having fun. damn Jackpot Cut"
IKR, like vergil is having what you call "character growth".. he's bit of a tsundere and a weeb but deep down he's a wacky woohoo pizza man.
Jackpot Cut!!! Man, you made my day! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
At first i thought vergil had the same moveset on the 3 dmc games but now i realise that dmc4 brought almost every move to dmc 5 and they just made few additions that were not much but very good
@ㅤㅤ It also reflects his acceptance of his human side
Anytime you go on to a video like this there’s always someone bitching. It’s always “I like dmc v but I think the previous games are superior in every single way”. In dmc 4 everyone believes that additional screenshake equals more hard hitting moves when it’s just copy pasted along any move that looks like it hits hard. God this always gets on my nerves.
3:00 The interesting part is original hell on earth animation was Dmc1 Dante's weapon switch animation
Switch from Alastor to Ifrit, that is.
Oh shit it is .
Funny how far the little things in games go
Vergil really chilled out in DMC5 what's quite nice too see when you see how unhappy and angry DMC3 Vergil is
3:01 Wait, I never seen boss Vergil have this skill
That is not hell on earth, dmc3 boss vergil use that to switch from beowulf to yamato, a homage to dmc1 weapon switching movement
@@Suezcronos I see, thanks for explaining
You have that animation with dante in dmc1 when you changed weapons without the menu, then they put it int the vergil boss and now its a move.
@@reakefit7304 TIL you can change weapons outside of menus....
Rest in peace.
Judgement nut x3
the biggest point of growth is clearly how vergil carries his yamato. He carries it normally these days instead of the wrong way around
I think the wrong way is kind of his characteristic. His moves are designed for carrying the sword the wrong way and it makes him more badass. Actually the fact that DMC 5 makes him carry sword the traditional way is wierd and dissapointing to me.
I get that he holds it the wrong way in 3, but why is that the wrong way? Don't know anything about these kind of swords just curious.
I mean if you were trying to draw your sword and immediately slice then surely you'd want the blade to already be in the correct orientation, or am I missing something here
@@absoluteshambles6905 not an expert, just a katana owner. when the sheath is attached to you, like a samurai traditionally does, then you do have the sword tip point the air. But when you’re holding it, like Vergil usually does, it is tip down. Idk know the real reason for this, but I do have experience based guesses. I have tried both ways, but my favorite is to hold the sheath. When the sheath is attached, you’re going to use two hands, and because of that, you draw it already facing the right way so you can quickly adjust your second hand after holding the sheath for a steady draw. When holding, you’re typically going to be using one hand, and your going to use the sheath as part of your attack too(like Vergil’s first two attacks with the Yamato) and having the tip face down (mostly) stops the sword from flying out the sheath. When you wish to draw the katana out you just adjust the sheath too help you pull out the katana and attack. The katana is a very fun weapon, and though not the best sword, it is a very balanced fast and easy blade. It is quick to draw and light(for a sword) and if sharpened and taken proper care of, it’s razor sharp and can make very thin deep cuts, which trust me, SUCK. If you read all my rambling thank you.
@@driftteamleader3470Interesting, thank you for the info!
@@absoluteshambles6905 hey man, anytime! But don’t forget to do your own research, maybe you can find other reasons for it
Man virgil's hell on earth got a huge buff
Ngl when I saw him do that in 3 and say “rest in peace” I thought something similar to what we have now was going to happen
@@cjtheman2985 I dont think I ever saw it when I play 3 mainly because vergil is like one of the best bosses to use royal gaurd on
@@alexzab11 he use it in vergil 2 fight, basically just announcing he's gonna use both the yamato and Beowulf instead of just Beowulf only
That ground pound in 3 wasn’t really a hell on earth it was kind of just like a expression of frustration it doesn’t do any damage at all
@@ashtongrey6755 hence the "buff" OP is mentioning haha
3:03 the way he says "scum" is just orgasmic, best edgelord ever
SHCUM
you can still hear it in dmc5.... If you install a proper mod...
He went from spinning his sword to block projectiles into just waving his hand really fast with the sword still in its sheath.
He went from using the blade of the yamato to deflect projectiles to slapping and back handing projectiles mid air using the handguard of the yamato from cool to cooler lol
It's a nice detail seeing Vergil finally correct the way he holds Yamato by the sheathe by 5 compared to how his younger self carries it around in 3 and 4.
Sure, Yamato is in most cases nigh-unbreakable. Holding it with the blade curved downwards probably wouldn't have put its edge at risk of dulling, and Vergil probably would have dismissed the possibilies of that happening (because damaging the Yamato is "totally" impossible).
But I like to think that after he reunited with Yamato after it got absolutely bodied by mundus decades prior, Vergil decided to give the sword a bit more respect than he did back then.
The Yamato did break in dmc4, so I think "impossible" is a bit of a stretch, but hey, that could be a factor in how Vergil treat his sword now, with more care and respect.
@@qgvinh8614the break was because of mundus tho
3:30 “Cut of-BLAST!”
Lol Vergil literally cut himself off
This makes me wonder. I think vergil ALWAYS had judgement cut end. In DMC3, during the final fight with him, he says "THIS IS THE END" right before he vanishes and unleashes a seemingly endless barrage of judgment cuts that spans across the map and then vergil reappears after the duration has ended. Maybe that was a foreshadow to the real judgement cut end in DMC4 and DMC5?
Well Vergil mode in DMC4 was before DMC3
That one is also present in UMvC3, its JCE
@@Not_Alan_Wake no nigga vergil was not younger
Spot on that basically right
That's Dimension Slash
So glad they sped up the summoned swords.
The Summon Swords in 3 were more powerful tbf.
I do like the tiny detail how they corrected the grip Vergil had on his Yamato all these years to how a normal Katana scabbard is wielded in hand. Despite how it may look, it's a hell of a lot more convenient than the grip he had in dmc3-4 to go from holding a sheathed Yamato, to doing some wacky pizza man shit with his literal dimension cutting sword.
I have a head canon Veg practices Yagyu Shinkagen Ryu, a more Cautious and Adaptive form of Kenjutsu, his mechanics and character fits this style best with the Concentration meter which is very Yagyu though ironically this school was founded by a Buddist Samurai who lived frugally and not Socially Darwinistic.
As for how quickly he can use Force Edge a Longsword esque weapon, HEMA (especially the German style/Liechtenauer and the most likely style Dante uses) and Kenjustu have actually more in common than differences just differing in specific techniques due to how the blades are shaped.
バージルは3、4、5どれもそれぞれの個性があって良いですね。
人によって好みは分かれますけど、火力に関してはシリーズを重ねる毎に格段にパワーアップしていますね
I still miss his old upper slash string
Same, it looks cooler and more graceful.
Same
Didn't know why they take it out, but I guess the upper to downward slash combo isn't really great for chaining
Glad to see I'm not the only one. It was really a boss move that player vergil inherited, guess that's why they removed it.
I do too. That actually made every launcher unique because you had to change to Force edge in order to do the jumping launcher.
@@Stuntray you could just use trick after upper slash to do the follow up. That's what I used to do.
納刀する時いちいち回転させるのがカッコよくて好き。❤
After watching my bro play number 3 and then unlocking Vergil I knew from that day on I wanted to only play as him. Even with his basic moveset in that game he would shred the enemies. I only have cursory experience playing as Dante and Nero so I could not pull off nearly the same shit as them as I can as Vergil. DMC 5 gave us the Vergil quality of life changes he needed to truly shine. Even number 4 had his flaws since he couldnt block and only had one instant armor breaking move.
The Vergil dmc 3 pose and how the coat suits him can not be compared, perfection.
Not to mention how he is holding Yamato in DMC3 while standing. I prefer that version
Vergil in DMC 4 was younger than in DMC 3, so he too was a little bit of a wacky woohoo marshmallow man. That's why he unsheathes Yamato more. In DMC 3 Vergil is more groosome because he left his beloved. That's why he act more precise and deadly. In DMC 5 Vergil just returned to the roots. He experienced being a casual human while being V, he found out he has an adult son (who kicked his ass), he realised that his quest for power was for nothing because he already has all the power he needs. He looks more happy. When he says "Jackpot", he smiles, you can see it. He is happy now because he has his family again. It is a good reason to become a showoff again.
Not at all. Itsuno based most of Vergil's moveset after watching Dan using a japanese sword. He liked how Dan used the japanese sword with more fierty in opposition to the smooth japanese style, making his style a mix of japanese-american and extrapolated that to Vergil's, that's all.
Also Vergil in DMC4SE is updated version of Vergil that's why he has wider moveset, because DMC3SE Vergil was limited in moves since he was literally playable boss, not because of plot. And I don't think that DMC4SE Vergil's story is "228 years ago" type, so he could change his style.
@@virhilios3789 i thought DMC4SE Vergil moves were inspired by DmC Vergil
@@KoylTrane Just a few of them like his Aerial Rave. Even with that I'm talking about his style not his moves.
@@KoylTrane yes almost every yamato move. Rapid Slash , aerial rave, rapid Slash , aerial cleave, aerial rave b , yamato combo a, upper Slash, judgement cut. Force edge he uses Dante's combo.
Can't tell if it's just clever sync-up, but the fact that the timing of Vergil's animations are so similar is honestly an impressive detail.
Just to clarify it's not that Vergil completely changed his devil trigger in dmc 5 from 3, in 5 thats his Sin DT, he has his original just like Dante uses till he gets his Sin DT, but he can still go in the original Vergil just chooses not to
DMC3 Vergil's cockyness is fucking tangible in his moveset.
I really miss the additional downward slash from Upper Slash in dmc3
DmC fanboys have no issue with that.
Me too its just a good way to finish a combo
Vergil is the only ever playable boss that didn't get playable boss nerfs
I miss how impactful the summoned swords were in DMC4:SE Vergil used, they had that booming affect when launched in barrage and satellite.
I never noticed how the Nelo Angelo DT had given Vergil Kick 13 and Beast Uppercut all those years back :O
Also, Mirage Edge's combos are based on Dante's Rebellion combo since DMC4, and its ability to cancel Million Stab mid-combo is taken from Alastor.
I wonder why they did not ever return that distortion cone effect in front of Vergil before the Judgement Cut itself. That looked so cool af for me; like, Vergil's cutting the space itself or something like that.
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I love these moves
Some nice things about DMC5 Vergil are the recovery animations for Yamato. But Lunar Phase will always sound the best in DMC3. Not only is it beautiful but I love the voice work that goes with it. DMC3 Judgement Cut will always be a classic. Rapid Slash is amazing in DMC3 as well. DMC3 Rising Sun? *chef's kiss* Not only does it have the white light slice effect to it, Vergil sounds amazing when he does it as well.
Spinning Hook Kick is the Original Kick 13 that Dante has in DMC1. Dan in DMC3 just sounds amazing to me.
Now it's just DmC Vergil with some Dante's moves and some original moves from Beowulf. Remember that awesome Force Edge combo in DMC3?
This thing of giving Vergil Dante’s older moves & vice versa is pretty lame. But newer Vergil is still the shit.
BUT GODDAMNIT RISING SUN SHOULD BE ITS OWN FUCKING MOVE
@@doncinati7644 fix his rapid slash(the DMC3 rapid Slash was better), remove yamato combo C or make it max concentration special move with a lot of damage, replace aerial rave B with DMC3 aerial rave, change his force edge combo, make rising sun its own move , maybe have the real impact-like move he does against Beowulf in DMC3 replace hell on earth. Kind of his super finisher.. Also Vergil doing million stab is seems out of character...
And there you have it , there is not much to change but still they put minimal effort..
And switch input for Yamato combo A and B.
∆,∆,∆ should be input for his three hit Yamato combo
∆,∆, pause,∆,∆ should be input his four hit combo input
@@YuvrajSingh-wx6rx I agree with everything on this list bruh
What’s crazier is that I thought I was the only one who thought it was retarded how Yamato B is a delay combo.... dude like even 4SE-5SE’s Yamato A animation FEELS like a delay combo, despite mashing it
like I don’t get it
@@doncinati7644 yes bro it's pretty illogical..
I kind of liked the way he holds Yamato on DMC3
It's Upright position really adds small personality to how composed yet ready he is as not many holds a katana like that.
Yeah, cause it’s the wrong way.
The blue flare from his sin devil trigger resembles the way he used to hold it. I think that’s what that effect is there for
@@rappercentral703 pretty big brain
@@destroyercreater98 why is it the wrong way?
@@Slepepe it’s gonna fkn slip out man
Can youn do comparisom between boss vergil and playable vergil?
other than judgement cut, every yamato move vergil has is identical to boss vergil
@@disquietellie not exactly. They have different Aerial Rave A. Boss Vergil has Yamato Stinger instead of Void Slash. And effects of attack are different.
It’s worth seeing, I wanna see if animations are tweaked at all or if the visual effects changed. Obviously Dante has all the same moves for his own boss fight but even his E&I is slower
@@disquietellie don't forget back in DMC3 boss Vergil had a tracking round trip
Playable version has more light blue/cyan attack aura while boss version is darker blue. Judgement cut is darker while also has more pronounced sound with boss compared to playable as well.
I totally forget he could turn into Nelo Angelo with the corrupted skin
Which is an awesome comparison to Dante becoming Sparda with his LDK skin.
This is such a good development of movesets and overall game mechanics for one character. I hope they add Trish and lady and give them the same overhaul
I still love how DMC3SE Vergil has a certain kind of grace and deadliness. He doesn't draw Yamato as often as in DMC5 in his movesets but when Yamato comes out in DMC3 it was always deadly and quick. They should have put the DMC3 aerial rave A as default Aerial Rave for vergil instead of making it an S rank taunt in 5. Vergil was never meant to do a ballet spin in mid-air, he'd cut you down quickly without all the dancing.
Also it was cooler when Vergil did his rapid-slash without turning around. Cool guys don't look at explosions. RIP old upper slash string.
Sure, but DMC 3 Vergil's Yamato moveset was based on the boss moveset, which was very limited and had short animations which hurt like hell. 4 and 5 attempted to balance and add to his moveset so that he had more tools like the other characters.
@@ZoMbi5lAy3r Yea I get what you mean, I just wish they didn't rip most of Vergil's moveset from DmC . That version of Vergil just didn't feel like Vergil and maybe because it was developed by some other studio. I get that maybe Capcom was trying to save budget by pulling the animations and mocaps from DmC, but I felt like they could have made a better Vergil if they just added new original moves evolved from DMC3 Vergil into DMC4SE and then evolve that further in DMC5SE.
You say he doesn't draw yamato often as in dmc5? It is because he has only five moves for yamato and he draws for all of the five moves
@@lawrenegummy4736 And vergil in dmc3se was almost same as boss version only with some moves. While in dmc4se they added much more unique moves for him.
@@lawrenegummy4736 DMC5 Vergil has chill out a bit.
Just look at Deep Stinger, it looks like Vergil just recently think of a cool moves.
Vergil lose some moveset, but gain a new one.
Void slash in particular, is quite cool.
This makes me see just how far video game cameras have come
*still can't get him to say jackpot* ;;
Hold the button and timing when you get a JC Took me a few days but I got it
When Vergil does three perfect judgement cuts in DMC5, he says, "jackpot".
0:50 for a second I thought they removed the sword flip then I realized it’s still there but its so fasssttt holy shh
Everyone: ah yes smoother animation and stuff
Me: I need to write down every move so I can beat him in the next fight.
It's cool how in 3 he holds Yamato for some of the attacks but puts it on his waist in 5
5も好きなんだけど、ここだと散々な言われようで嫌な気分だな。3の方が好きな人間は険があるコメントしか出来ないのか？それとも懐古厨なのか？
As my grandpa says: enjoys while you're young, cause later your legs won't be able to hold you anymore.
4SEの時エフェクト等諸々にガッカリした俺的にも5SEのバージルはかなり満足だけど
やっぱり思い出補正もあって3見るといいなぁってなるよね
ﾊｯﾌﾝのﾌﾝが出来なくなったままなのと次元斬発動前の歪みエフェクトがないのと幻影剣の見た目とあとはME兜割りの迫力あたりは3に比べて残念だなと思う
逆に言えばそれ以外は5SE最高！って思ってるけど
あと敵の時はあった絶のﾄﾞｩｰﾝ音返して…
斬撃の残像、透明な歪みじゃなくて3みたいに明度上げる処理してくれたらよかったのにな
集中ある時に水色エフェクトつけるのとの兼ね合いなんだろうけどそもそもあの色エフェクト好きじゃないんだよなあ
まあ4の時のもっとベタ塗りな感じのに比べたらはるかにマシだけど
敵バージルのやつそのままにしてほしかったよな、次元斬絶のサークルも無かったし、でもpcだったらmodで全部解決できるよ
That hell on earth in DMC 3 wasn't the move. It's vergil changing back to yamato
Man ... The Trick/TP sound is still one of the single most satisfying SFX that Capcom has produced
良く3の金子デザイン（魔人化）をここまで格好良く進化させたもんだなぁと感心したよ
今見ても3のエフェクトって素晴らしいな
DMC5 Vergil took a lot of influence from all three other Vergil's. including reboot Vergil who had a Doppelganger as well as Just Judgement Cut.
no. he already has those moves before the reboot. the doppleganger move is just a borrowed style from dante in dmc3.
The Hell on Earth in DMC3 seems to be just him switching weapons. A nod to being able to do that in DMC1 without going into the menu
i cant even imagine playing as vergil without bury the light in the background anymore
The minimalistic look of dmc3 never gets old
未だに3連続次元斬出せた事が無い…
I need more Technique!!
Screw DMC 4 sonic boom effect, I want DMC 3 Ice/Glass shatteribg effect on mirage blade
@D35 12IY4NT0 Yes, yes, Special Edition, whatever
Its still DMC 4
@D35 12IY4NT0 Huh?
@D35 12IY4NT0 how is it worse?
Just gonna leave here for when he explains why the special edition is worse
@D35 12IY4NT0 dm4 se is just the game with more characters and costumes, the other stuff are untouched so its not worse its just the exact same game with more characters
1:46 I love DMC 5 to death but goddamnit... the gravity in this game man....
To be honest, Vergil in DMC3 seem more classy and elegant, like how he sheaths Yamato. I also like how DMC3 Vergil doesn't talk much, compare to DMC5 Vergil, he seem more talkative, he has lines in every move, even when he SDT.
I like that he talks more in DMC5 but I don't like the direction they went with the moveset.
In DMC3 Yamato was deadly and elegant, Vergil shouldn't unsheathe yamato and whack around like Dante's rebellion. When Vergil drew Yamato in DMC3 the damage was high with a big-ass slash arc and then he sheathes the blade quickly. The whole Aerial Rave C spinning around like ballerina in mid-air just didn't feel like Vergil. Capcom had to cheap out and rip Vergil's moveset from the garbage that is Ninja Theory's DmC.
Tbh the way Vergil fights in DMC5 seems more practical as he keeps his knees bent for more balance instead of directly standing up like his younger self did as Vergil fighting style is supposed to be more focused on being quick and efficient rather than Dante's style of showing off in battle and as for the talkative part Vergil is starting to change due to his experience as V and has started to accept his human side and as for an irl explaination it's probably wanted the VA to talk more for the fans
@@lawrenegummy4736 you do realize that virgils game play is based off how he plays in dmc4 right?
@@Scyclo DMC4 Vergil took many things from reboot. The only difference - he isn't shitty
@@lawrenegummy4736 you do know Vergil and Dante both practiced with wooden broadswords when they were kids, even though he does uses Yamato like an actual katana, his first style was broadsword so it makes sense why some moves have him using Yamato like that
this old man still motivated as well
5のリアル過ぎるグラもそんなに好きじゃないから欲張りすぎだけど3のデザイン、4のグラで4、5のアクションをやってみたい
自分の言いたいこと翻訳してくれてる人いた笑 僕も同感です！
バージルの顔がでかくなって肩幅狭くなってクソ親父設定付いちゃってて悲しいぜ
あ、でも魔人化は5が圧倒的に好きだなぁ
確かに魔人化は5が好き
たしかに3魔人化は歴代でもデザイン浮いてる気がする
I like to see that vergil with the time he upgraded his skills and maked it more efecctive
the dmc4 and 5 Vergil's were clear upgrades. you can tell they rushed a playable Vergil in dmc3, cause they didn't seem to bother giving him any extra moves for the player to use. the Yamato attacks were limited, force edge attacks were so so, and the beowulf moves were decent.
No extra moves? Lunar Phase, Force Edge Combo and Yamato Aerial Rave say hi. But I see what you mean. It doesn't matter anyways since DMC3 Vergil is by far the most balanced.
@@supersbbrawl4ever none of his weapons had more than one combo. Not Even by delaying the buttons.
Hot damn! The RE Engine is absolutely beautiful!
Virgil and Dante have matured through the five games so much and it shows
I like when Daniel Southworth lend his voice to Vergil.
I really miss the “Mhmhmh mhmhm”
Yeah that was badass. That was the sound of motivation .
Rising sun
His basic Force Edge combo was better in 3, as well as teleports, also not having separate button for Rising Sun anymore :(. But FINALLY having Helm Breaker-esque move on Yamato is a blessing.
Now I'm motivated...
Vergil weapons in dmc3: Yamato, Cerberus and Force Edge
Vergil weapons in dmc5: *chair*
I think you mean beowulf
Devil may Cry 3's sword sheathing effect is even more detailed than ps4's Dmc
Skill comparison
Dmc5 vergil holding the fuck back
Yea
Lunar Phase will always be my favorite kicking move in a game.
Yamato be like : *shring* *click*
Some of these are not 1:1 comparisons. Vergil lost his standard DT, unlike Dante, and only transforms with Sin DT. Trick from DMC3 doesn't even come close to the versatility of Air Trick.
My point is, this was an opportunity to show that things that no longer align ARE different. DMC3 DT could have been contrasted with Doppelganger (which IS the regular DT now) and Air Trick could have illustrated that DMC5 Vergil can do more with his default trick than DMC3 Vergil.
Old rapid slash and judgment cud look and sound way better 🔥🔥
maybe a dante and vergil comparison for dmc3?
I really miss the DMC3 Upper Slash animation (and the standing downward slash follow up).
The one from dmc3 is just iconic
I like the DMC V Vergil
0:02
it seems to me that vergil devil trigger really improved in DMC5 im impressed
1:29 HE SAID THAT!!!!!😍😍😍
5:22 👌
notice how DMC5 vergil always keeps his stance while sheathing the Yamato in the first couple of combos?
he also turns around for rapid slash this this time.
Even as powerful as Vergil will get old one day... His skills in 5 is not that aggressive as it was in 3...
Why is Vergil's air trick in 3 so high compare to 5?
Is old age kicking in?
Yep lol
It wasnt that high when i relooked at it. The camera for the 3rd one aimed up higher and was more under vergil so it seemed like he was more up in the air.
Thats why dmc3 vergil even falls to the ground before dmc5 vergil does.
You know how easy dmc 5 vergil would destroy his dmc 3 self?
DMC 3 has better cape physics then Assassin's Creed Valhalla
Omfg its like anything is better than that cashgrab piece of garbage
Vergil slick back hair is sharper in dMC5 for sure
HE SAID IT! HE SAID IT! VERGIL SAID "JACKPOT" *fangirl noises*
glad they still put the same sfx on yamato
I wish DMC 5 Vergil had a normal devil trigger. I'm not a fan of the whole doppelganger thing for his base DT activate tbh. Also a bummer none of the games have had the amount of costumes that DMC 3 gave you. That game had a shit ton including the Nelo Angelo transform 😔
I still prefer DMC 3 audio design, especially the one from my favorite move of the entire franchise, Judgement Cut.
Hell on Earth had a huge buff
I never thought Vergil would say “JACKPOT!” himself but I’m happy he did!😀
Dmc 3 Vergil's design is still the best
Vergils 3 and 4 devil trigger and voice lines is better than 5 to be honest, imagine 3 and 4' devil trigger and different DT per weapon were in dmc5's graphics
Just give the man his dmc3 force edge combo back. ..
the only noticeable difference between these vergils is the way we can get them:
The vergir of DMC 3 is achieved by beating the game in the definitive difficulty and the one of DMC 5 by buying it in the online store
how things changed 😥
But I still highly recommend this game.