Fitting the Intercooler & Turbo Cold Side Pipes
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Now that the engine and transmission have been mounted in the car, it's time to start fitting things together. I decided to start with the cold side of the turbo.
In this video I'll show you how I fitted the intercooler and cold side pipes to the turbo system in my fox body. They don't give you mounting brackets so you have to make your own. I show how I made mine in this video.
I also go over some of the changes I'm making to the turbo system so that it works with my carbureted application. There will be another video about some of the changes I had to make to the system to get that to work. For the most part this video covers the mounting of the intercooler.
Don't worry, I'm going back later to paint the brackets I made. All I was concerned about in this video was getting them made so that they worked.
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Eric, once again and I don't have to worry about my kids walking in and hearing bad language. You are the man. Education is a wonderful thing.
Eric, no one realizes all of the issues you run into modifying a vehicle until you actually do it. Thanks for sharing you headaches and successes. I hope it goes smoothly from here on out.
Indeed, and in my effort to illustrate that, I've got a crowd of second guessers, who have never built a car like this, thinking they could do better. Car people are the best. Thanks for your comment.
I'm watching this video in the garage while I'm reworking my lower intercooler piping for my new turbo :D Days like these are the days I enjoy the most. No pressure, light fabrication, having fun while dreaming of boost :D 29:05 Those are just speed holes. They help the car go faster.
Yes! I literally cannot wait to see this thing tearing it up!
There is something very satisfying about using heat to bend metal.
This is exactly the type of noodling about I love to see! Makes me feel like, "I got this". Don't have air tools but I do have a corded and cordless drill, no acetylene torch but I got a can of MAP gas and big Bertha the 3 pound sledge 😂.
so exited to see more of this awesome build
It'd be great to see your car on Jay lenos garage
this. yes. this.
We have to make that happen! And on The Smoking Tire too.
Jay Leno has a big chin and sucks.
That is a great idea. Jay could do well to bring at least a few of these types of builds through Jay Leno's Garage. While I am not following any other builds of this type on TH-cam, there is likely a few more out there. It would be good for both Jay's and the builder's channels. ...This is going to be a really cool "sleeper" when it is all done.
Nah. This is a dream project for working class person. That Californian schmuck wouldn't even appreciate something like this. That's why there are Ferraris and expensive shit. A true man that worked hard for what he has would build this.
Always learn so much watching your videos. Thanks a ton for what you do.
this isn't Eric the car guy it's Eric the blacksmith
Just call me smithy.
I'm sure you've answered this before but I can't find it. Where can I order a center punch like you use and how much are they?
Maybe I can help !. My uncle said if you have to ask how much it costs you really can't afford it. Now, NAPA stores, snap on truck, craftsman-Sears, or if you have an old screw driver, ground down the tip to a point. Hope this helps you...
vetterfellow I have punches but not like that one. there has been times where being able to mark and/or center punch something one handed would have been very helpful.
Wicked Proxy I have a similar one from harbor freight that was less than 10$ if I recall correctly
love this build eric, cant wait to see it run
Good video man, I like how you don't edit out problems, and pitfalls you come across on a build like this. that's what makes your videos stand apart from the rest. Keep up the good work.
a little tip for you to help you get your bends exactly where you want them just heat the point that it is touching the vice or whatever you're trying to bend over/around then it always starts to bend in that spot which makes getting the bend bang on.
Love the Fairmont videos.
Can't wait to see this thing on the road
Eric nice job can't wait to see you test drive it
Me either.
Looking good Eric! 👍
Wow that is some good work Eric!
Going to look sick from the front with the cooler hanging low and sexy from the back with that differential cover. It is so satisfiing to watch the Fairmont getting together. Bwaaaaaaaa pshhhh wroomm
Eric I have a 94 mustang that i am putting a supercharger in with a inter cooler and this video is very helpful. My mustang is a lot like your car too! Thanks you
I love your Fairmont Videos!
@23:30 I was cringing seeing all those sparks fly with minimal protection. Moment later I was glad to see that you grabbed a face shield! Be safe, have fun, stay dirty!
Sweet vice I probably would have cut that bar in to three pieces the right length and wielded it together but that because I don't have a oxy torch that would be a great addition to my little garage the car is looking great I can't wait to see it go
I am taking automotive classes at my school because of you eric. I have been around since the old shop.
That's awesome. Good luck in school and thanks for your comment!
Nice Work!
This was a really good vid , looks like alot of patience was needed, awsome vid Eric!
This is a prime example why I keep all cardboard boxes. It's a ton easier to make a template from cardboard; trim here, holes there. Then transfer the template to metal. I fab all kinds of stuff that way.
Missing the days when this was an actual repair channel.
Oh, boo hoo... There's PLENTY of repair content in his archives.
Tony Aww. another keyboard warrior. What, you get bored doing your chores for your mommy and daddy?
nice vl spec intercooler Eric
Ben Figdor insert bogan burnout here*
burnout followed by dose all the way up the street
Ben Figdor also followed by the boys in blue with their pretty yellow stickers lol
and then the boys in blue are followed by all his lebbo mates who tell the cops to fight real crime
Pip vl's were early turbo cars in Australia and have no blow off valve and the noise created when the throttle butterfuly was closed and the car was on boost commonly known as turbo flutter is called dose to them and they drive their cars mashing the throttle and then letting go just to hear the sound
"Important to make engine noises while you put this together"
ABSOLUTELY! I don't know how many times I tried to imagine what my little Fox EFI motor would sound like though sidepipes. TaDADATaDADATaDADATaDADA. Pretty much right on the money... :) Tsshhh *wastegate*
This guy is a wizard!!!
ohhh another video , so excited
Damn fresh engine man that's what I want
Eric the turbo guy . Love the fairmount videos .
Nice home Blacksmithing!
Quick tip, when drilling, especially steel, anything bigger than about 1/4 hole size, start with a pilot hole of 3/16 then drill 3/8. It will be much quicker in the end
Eric is creating a monster!
If you ever get tired of fixing cars, you can always start a new channel called EricTheBlackSmith.
Eric why dont u use rubber bushings in between the brackets and the intercooler. it will maybe help a bit to prevent it from breaking. Greetings from The Netherlands!
I don't think it will be an issue. If it is, I'll address it. Thanks for your input.
yea radiators usually have rubber mounts.
Yes, helps with vibration and also with galvanic corrosion which is not normally a problem for a few decades, but hey, why not isolate with rubber and put a little silicon on the bolts?
this car is going to be a hoot to drive; very much looking forward to those videos.
SWISS CHEESE THE BUMPER; moar airflow!!!
This week on Eric the Blacksmith guy...
Hey Eric, awesome work on all you videos and projects
I like how you let people know even you still learn something new every day, as you teach us . I think the top tubing that goes into the carb adapter might fit if you put the welded 90 angle into the fenderwell hole and swoop up and swoop around the turbo if you rotate the tubing 180 degrees. I have helped a friend of mine that was working on his tubing and he was getting ready to cut up the tubing, but, I brought it to the car "the wrong way" and it fit. He was happy for it to fit, pissed that he didn't see it for an hour wrestling with it. # FAIRMONTS RULE
paint the pipes and intercooler black to help hide it
I might.
Not only will it help hide it, but the guys over at MCM also found cooling performance was improved when they were spray painted black! Not kidding!
Colin Stuart It improved radiation not convection. Radiation helps when the car is stationary but what you really want is convection as the air passes through it when you're on boost, which it did worse after it was painted (you can check out engineering explained video on it). I don't think the loss in performance is nearly as much as how much the intercooler is covered by the bumper. I'd recommend painting the bumper black and maybe cut some speed holes in a nice patter of course to help with air flow, but it won't look as stock though. Personally I like blacked trim because of the Buick GNX, one of the few cars that look good murdered out.
MightyCarMods also tested that black IC is better than the shiny one.
If he paints it black he might as well remove it because he would block airflow and give the intercooler an insulation layer which would greatly reduce the cooling efficiency. Either cut holes in the bumper or add a meth injection system to help keep things cool.
very good video as allways 😀
when there is a new upload i ready my popcorn :)
As Jeremy would say " V8 Motor ".....looking nice Eric, going to be a beast :)
really nice video! i am getting more impatient every time i watch another fairmont video for this car to be working properly.
It'll be some time, especially now that I'm adding repair videos to my Friday postings. When I'm done however, it will be the most complete documentation of a performance build on TH-cam.
you are damn right about that!
and best of luck on your work.
When I need to make bends like that I like to cut 50% though the bar with the band saw, as a brake point. Then make the bend, and fill the void with the mig welder. It bends exactly where you want it.
Eric, for sleeper stealthyness paint the intercooler black, it will also dissipate heat a little better too (super scientific test by mighty car mods) so it's a win win situation !
Eric the fabricator. Nice work brother.
Nice to see you finally using a face shield when using a death wheel. I call cutoff wheels death wheels to remind me they can kill me if they fly apart. Ive had one go into my leg before, and it is not fun pulling it out. Those things can really mess you up.
You are crazy man!
That flat bar looked so ideal for the brackets, great job eric :-D.
While you were hammering, i thought "Hammer time" but no baggy pants and dancing :).
All that chrome does stick out, a splat of matt black perhaps.
I was thinking that. Plenty of time to sort that out. Right now I just want to get the car done.
im hyped up as fuck to see this car actually drive
also, it technically wouldnt be a bad idea to wrap the intake pipes in heatshielding
I'm actually doing that to the exhaust. Thanks for your comments.
EricTheCarGuy oh yeah, ive seen.
extra heatshielding doesnt hurt. but, wont make or break anything. thanks for answering me lad
get a plastic lower valence like you'd find on a 90's chevy pickup, drill 2 oval speed holes (4"x2-2.5") directly in front of the intercooler, fill the space with a fine steel mesh painted black to avoid total see though-ness, then install an intercooler sprayer. or you can make one, get a set of cheap windshield sprayer nozzles and a windshield fluid reservoir with a built in pump, then wire it to a toggle switch. or a momentary switch behind the gas pedal, similar to a nitrous set up, so at a certain throttle input it starts spraying. or go with meth injection. all of these options should provide plenty of cooling.
wholy crap nearly 1 million congrats, I predict within the next 6 months you'll be at 1 million 👍
Eric, maybe find a splitter with an opening for your ic. it would help hide the cold side plumbing.
Nut certs for the core support
I had to sub so I could keep an eye on this project
looks like a fun project man. would love to give you a hand if i knew you.
Hey Eric, could you talk about the pros and cons of using electric tools vs air tools. Loving the videos man. Thanks.
By day, Eric is a mere wrench turning car guy, but by night he becomes Eric the Blacksmith mwahahaha!
The secret for heat dissipation? Black painted intercooler!
Ps. On second thought you could hook up a water sprayer that works on a switch,works awesome!
Good problem solving video. I was hoping to see you mount it in the trunk, with an air foil off the rear window, maybe next time. Keep going
Hello Eric. I'm glad that wasn't a magnesium vice! Loving the build. Will I hear more from the engine? I heard it from my house when you were on UNOH campus!
When Eric isn't busy with everything else he must really get a kick off reading the comment sections hahaha
Leno's garage and sequestered cupcakes.Heavy go fast parts are cool.
I miss my 1979 Fairmont 2 door it was fast for an inline 6 automatic
Really? th-cam.com/video/hkOdD0P38ps/w-d-xo.html
You can eliminate the OEM starter solenoid as most modern 5.0 engine starters have them on the starter.
Measure twice, drill holes into brackets once, Eric. You're forgiven though. Awesome video.
A length of choice rubber hose, slit lengthwise- makes a nice grommet for that fender well, protecting the pipe and hiding the cut. Very nice fabrication. A set of breaks for your press would come in handy one day. I wonder how much airflow is blocked by that bumper?
aluminum intercoolers do not like vibration. i would suggest rubber mounts.
Or rubber washers at the very least.
a good solution is a water to air intercooler. it will simplify your piping but require a reservoir and a small heat exchanger in front of the rad, like if you had ac. and a water pump and lines.
id flip the intercooler upside down and see if i could route the piping behind the bumper above the bumper mounts and below the lights . the would hide the pipes . pass side piping probably would be easy to route drivers a little more tricky but worth it in the end
are you putting a rubber or plastic washer between dissimilar metals and use stainless bolts? you will have oxidation between the aluminum rad and the steel bracket
doing an air duct under the bumper with a fan could get your intercooler colder behind the bumper
Have you thought about some kind of intake system for the intercooler? You could fashion it into the bumper, (specifically, two small vertical slits where the black bits stick out the front) or maybe just a small lip underneath that angles up, kinda like a mini wing. The second option would also give a smidge more downforce... Oh and if you really want to go stealthy, paint the intercooler and piping black 😎
Dude. 98k away from 1,000,000 subs then you get your TH-cam play sign. Nice work
Yea it's pretty cool. Thank you for your support!
EricTheCarGuy thank you too! great content on both your channels
Eric - you need a new Sharpie!
The build is coming along noice!
could you cut a small hole in the bumper that help with air flow and then use wire mesh to cover it and blend it back in?
eric the smith guy! that was actually very impressive.. not that i know anything about metalsmithing. you should make a sword next, and make sure you dunk the hot metal into a barrel of water for awesome steam footage.
I love what you have built. Shame no cars like this made it to the UK. Just thinking those ic pipe are awfully long. How about a charge cooler installing to reduce the inlet tract distance? Keep up the outstandingly good videos.
Cut a 4"x10" hole in the middle of the bumper and cover it with a chrome mesh. Weld some steel up on the back to get some strength back. Get some air flow in that intercooler.
As far I know/heard the aitflow won't do a notisable diffrence if it hangs out more or less. In other words it will be just fine, and just leave it where it hangs, hidden behind the bumper :)
Sugestion is to paint the intrecooler black and hide it behind a black net ;)
Extra holes in the brackets are fine. It's just weight reduction
it's gonna rattle like a cement mixer when started
My mum's 90.... you and eric must like sticking new things in old relics lol
wheeler dealer you have won the Internet today!
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You pretty much got destroyed.
wheeler dealer Older the better. I didn't get Destroyed.
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Lame reply.. you've lost your momentum.
I'd would spray the intercooler & intercooler pipes with wrinkle black spray paint for a stealth factory look.
Chrome mesh in a cut out on that bumper to help cooling, perhaps a future option?
Nice build so far! How do you plan to tackle the issue of the turbine housing touching that steel piping on the left hand side of the engine bay? Pretty sure that will contribute to heat soak, affecting the density of the air inside that pipe.
Eric The Smith Guy.
another idea for the intercooler mounts . i thinking maybe you could use radiator mounts and weld em to the frame.
hey there Eric, maybe a air dam on the front might channel air to the inner-cooler and maybe break out your mig welder and fill the wrong hole location in the bottom bracket it might get weak and break
I seriously doubt it will break. There are 3 more attachment points after all. I also don't think airflow will be a problem. Keep in mind since I'm running a carburetor that it cools the incoming air charge even more when it mixes with the fuel before going into the cylinder. Sometimes up to 100º. In fact, on many turbo carb applications they don't even run an intercooler.
But colder air is denser, so more air into the cylinders. There's a lot going on under the bonnet and any improvement to cooling regardless will improve the efficiency.
hey eric, ever though about a V mount for the intercooler? with some ducting you can compensate for the reduced cooling surface. piping would be shorter too. problem might be having to replace the front crossmember with tubes. the advantage? you'd make an use of the hood scoop this thing will need. and it would be the world's first V-mounted ford fairmont.
For airflow, I say oval holes in the bumper with black grating
you can make a die out of angle iron for your shop press that makes bending 90 degree brackets alot easier, might even be able to make a video about fabbing up some home made die's for your press :]
Just an idea
I was just hoping he'd play the intercooler like a harp.
MCM fan I see :D
Like trying to cram 15 pounds of potatoes into a ten pound sack. But you made it work...
Make a split bumper Fairmont!!!!!
Hey Eric, great video question for you are you going to run a/c as well? Just was curious if there is enough room for all the a/c parts in there
Curious, won't the Steele hitting the aluminum make a hole when it vibrates? It seems the bends being farther away and not hitting the inter cooler would be a better option.