Straight Flush vs Full House in 2005
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- Jennifer Harman and Cory Zeidman clashed on Day 1 of the 2005 WSOP Main Event in one of the craziest hands in poker history! Harman made a full house while Zeidman hit a straight flush on the river! Let us know in the comments how you feel about Zeidman's river slow-roll.
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The hand that inspired pokerstars' card distribution
*the hand inspired online pokers card distribution*
Fixed it for you 😆
What are you referring to if I may ask?
@@hosseinmehdipour2996 Online hands seem to put monster hands against each other. It would obviously increase bets. Pretty sad, because without true ramdom shuffling, it's fake and cheating the players...
Ain't that the truth..the ooh ahhh hands
Stars is nowhere near as bad as ACR. But yeah. Stay with brick n mortar.
I swear Jen seems to get a ton of these painful beats in big tourneys. She ALWAYS handles it so well. You can feel her pain, but she is so in control... classy.
She was furious here and unlucky, hehe
She need to go all in after the flop or turn. Only way, forces a fold.
@@michaelwilliams5234why are you trying to force a fold with the stone cold nuts on the turn? He had one out, it’s her job to extract as much value as possibly. She played this perfectly and got supremely unlucky.
I remember watching this the first time it aired on ESPN. I couldn’t get enough poker action back then.
How about now
@@toddsmith3663 I still love and play the game, just not as much. In my early 20’s poker was all I could think about.
@@docwillis1443 I c… same here when I was younger I played more often… now I just don’t have The patience for it
Same , this was when poker was at its height .. not the same anymore
Me too right 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Imagine being so bad that you just tell your opponent what you have before the river… and then slowroll when you have the super nuts!
this is what 10 IQ looks like
Lots of mediocre players made lots of money because players were so bad back then
@@ilya4759 you're absolutely right. Lot of "pros" back then couldn't beat 1/2 online today with solvers being used.
He didn't slowroll, he just thought he still had chips back hence him Hollywood'ing before "going all in". She bet an amount that covered him, not that Harmon jammed herself. So he figured there's chips back and I HAVE to raise with the nuts in a tournament as last to act.
What a donk mane
I love her face at the end. That, I just lost to a guy who doesn't know what he's doing. I see it all the time.
Maybe just because Im nostalgic but the earliest WSOP were the best tv format!
Player: I can do a lot of sight seeing if I lose this hand"
Also player: Holds the absolute nuts
🤷♂️
That slow roll was brutal
Brutal slow roll. Nothing else can describe that classless move.
It wasn't intentional, it was worse than intentional, it was just an idiot
that wasn't a slow roll.
@@krionic this is the definition of a slow-roll. Are you serious
@@LedGuitar1218 more hollywood-ing than a slow role
That guys giving so much information with still the river to come and then still not sure if he has the winner after hitting the nuts... “How are these players even still in this tournament”
Yup... He is so hesitated for the call..., plus he predicts that the opponent must has AK, which is just the 3rd best hand. The river actually save him
@@leomessi1972 not the 3rd best hand , 10 10, Q Q, J J, Q 10, J 10 , A K in order of hands strengths on the turn
It was day 1 hour 1
He knew he had the winner, but was about to push all in...wanted to make sure she'd call. He didn't slow play it
He knew he won with the nuts. Don't believe what your opponent is saying, it's called "Poker." He's just trying to get her to go ALL IN.
Can you imagine if that happened to Hellmuth? It would have been an epic performance.
What a brutal river card.
Well its gambling!
I remember Gabe Kaplan teasing Zeidman mercilessly in his commentary of High Stakes Poker, Season 2.
This is the guy Phil Helmuth got his coaching from… announcing every single thing you are thinking “I was afraid you had AK… how can I fold this… now I’m afraid you have something else”, which telegraphs EXACTLY what he’s holding.
Exactly. What a nube. Why don’t you just turn your hand over ??
Yeah, putting him in a Hellmuth class I don’t think so
Layne flack coached Phil.
@@picklesjackson9564
You completely miss the point.
This guy is analogous to how Phil essentially occasionally plays his hands face up by announcing things that narrow down his range to only a few hands and how strong/weak he is.
Unless it could be perceived as reverse-psychology by the opponent.
Those were the golden days where everyone is playing honest poker, and you can see the hand strength written on their agony face.
"Hey c'mon a little for that! Something yeah alright! Yeah! ... sorry Jen..."
Back when poker was extremely profitable this was more common than I think we realize.
Its still very profitable m8
@@Carriby how so
No I don't think so
@@donmasacre4919 Not profitable, in general? Not profitable for who?
@@Vudoo13 Everybody thinks that they could win back in the day because they have the knowledge of today. But that's not true. Back in those days the books are very basic and you need to figure it out of your own. Everybody have the same access to information independently of the of the era.
Sometimes it is a battle right to the end! POKER!
Gotta love a straight flush in the main!!! Really brutal. That's poker though. We chose this life.
"we chose this life" made me belly laugh.
No it's not-Oliver Hudson
Wasnt that the boat over boat with sammy F.? 1st haaannd..........
@@shivasirons6159 I was talking about the Jen Harmon hand.
Me if I was Harman - "So anyways I started shooting..." LOL
I absolutely loved norm in the wsop as the commentator he is definitely funny ever
I first saw it on You Tube about 15 years ago.
The biggest poker hand of the century.
Motoyuki Mabuchi would disagree with you
@@dkizxpt-su3ze Philips vs Mabuchi Royal Flush over Quad Aces had to be one of the sickest hands ever in live poker.
Pretty sure the Royal against Quad Aces beats it.
And then PokerGo bought the rights for all of it...
Got to be honest. He played really badly and ended up getting really lucky to win the pot. There was a few hands that were beating him and he still called knowing he was beat.
I think how he actually played each street was fine. It was his talking that was atrocious
@@M00NDANCEMIKE He hopefully knew that she had a boat (or at least top straight) after the turn. Jen is not the type of player to be making that bet without thinking she had the top hand (unless he had 10s). So at best he was a 5-1 underdog and at worst a 50-1. Calling a 3000 dollar bet on the turn with the amount of equity in the pot was definitely not the textbook play, but he got lucky. It's poker.
@@M00NDANCEMIKE ...but yes, the talking that accompanied his plays was the worst part of this hand for Cory.
she didnt take note of how he acted when the river came out
thank you
OUCH!! to have a Queens full of 10s and get poisoned on the river to a straight flush, that's brutal. i remember a hand where phillips beat out quad aces with a royal flush.
She should have seen it coming, she even says "I knew you has the 9-7 of diamonds". Terrible play by Harman
She was dead after the flop but because she was a pro people think pairing the board was skill
Were there five aces in the deck or am I missing something?
"I knew you had that hand"
Your bet on the river says otherwise.
Even if you “know” the person has this hand, you can literally never fold here. You’re either betting him all-in or calling an all-in.
Both players commited, which makes dudes call on turn atrocious, she is never bluffing or betting a worse than what he had
She "knew he had that hand"..........the moment he turned it over. 🤣🤣
She likely suspected it, but the way he reacted to her river bet, as if it was a tough decision, would throw most people off.
The thing that annoyed me the most is that afterwards he called for the crowd to cheer. When he didn't get it the cheers initially because he played badly, called when he thought he was losing against a pro, and sucked out with a 1 outer. Then slow rolled when she put him all in.
That wasn't a slow roll! It was an act to try and get her to call, but DEFINITELY not a slow roll. There was still live action
@@brianpotter2812 she put him all in already dumbass. That is the biggest slow roll I’ve ever seen. Do you know how to play poker?
That was definitely a SLOW ROLL!
@@brianpotter2812 She put him all in...how is it not a slow roll? Its a snap call he has the nuts.
How slow should it be for a slowroller?
Imagine if this was Hellmuth
It's very interesting watching this hand for the umpteenth time, but this being the first time I have since the news about Zeidman came out.
Seen this hand at least 50 times now, and with each watch I find Zeidman to have less and less class. There was no need for the showboating or ensuing trash talking. Dude got lucky, and this is the only thing he’ll ever be remembered for.
Dude won a WSOP bracelet in 2012. He’s not some hack.
Lol less class? He was Hollywooding trying to get a call thinking he was raising. Even bigger lol at showboating.
@@airzee33 How many people know he won a WSOP bracelet in 2012, and how many people know he was the guy who slow-rolled someone with a straight flush and then juiced them afterwards? Exactly.
@@AlphaLackey I knew. I have a life-sized poster of him with the bracelet in my living room. I ritualistically kiss my fingers and bring them up to his lips, then the bracelet, then the "2012" every morning before my ablutions.
@@airzee33 its called LUCK
One of the most infamous hands in televised poker history. Despicable slow roll.
This was the 2005 WSOP.
You can read
Originally it said 2004, so I was trying to bring attention to the mistake.
You know it really hurts like whom you trust will break it apart..
Remember when stack sizes and blinds didn’t matter?
😂👍
This was just brutal
is there any videos of jenifer harman wining a hand? never seen it...
I knew you had that hand, so I raised you!!
Well ...if you are talking about by the time it got to the river, she bet to put him all-in, so same effect. LOL - why did she bet then? If you are talking about the Turn....when she raised...did you see her equity...the dude was 2% to win!
She was just sayin! How unlucky! She even had the Q of diamonds, so it really is just about the only thing that could have beat her (besides Pocket 10s) when that dang old 7 of diamonds came on out!
His massive tell about his hand on the Turn, literally discussing how he could "not possibly fold". They are not showing the pot size but as the commentators say Harmon bet 3K on the river and it put that dude all in. It was possibly not a huge bet size on the river? Harmon raised to 200 pre-flop. 2 BB pre-flop, probably 10 BB flop bet, 30 BB Turn bet, and 30 Big blind bet size on the river...it was probably at least a 150 BB pot.
But hey, Zeidman made a stud final table the year before (commentator said). So that is something. Not right to say he is an amateur , for all the other commenters out there.
@@michaelnappa8244 bro you are so full of it . I can only wish to play in your table
Man with the rock hard stones and gives a monologue after the fact. Looks so disappointed when he says straight flush. What a class act… 🤦🏻♂️
One of the worst “acting jobs” in history.
He said ak the only hand gonna beat him when there is million full house beat his hand
he talks about the flop. he is an idiot but not because of this.
Guy nit-rolls mega-nut hand then wants applause for hitting ultra-sick one-outter, then rubs it in saying "It takes a lot to beat you" < class-less dork.
I thought it sounded like a compliment. How was it an insult?
Same here
@@rong9404 Ppl are idiots, dont ask them why...let them be!
Reminds me of the Quad Aces cracked by Straight Flush WSOP
Royal Flush at that
With the slowroll, the "sightseeing" quip, him clapping himself up in the end, combined with that silly notre Lame hat....is there a more punchable person?
Poker was way way different back then. This is 18 years ago.
@@HKim0072 18 years, that's depressing.
you
I remember that. On the telecast she kind of blasted the guy for not instacalling.
Hardman chews that gum like a cow
The self-aggrandizing and demanding the standing ovation should have elicited a drink in his face...
What a needle by Zidman and sllowroll. "I guess I can do a lot of sight seeing if I lose" when he had the stones.
What a donk mane. That’s how they sound when they suck out at the river.
It wasn’t a slow roll at all. There was still action after his bet. He was faking weakness to get her to call.
@@theye No. She raised him all in. He called.
@@theye it was a slow roll..
It definitely was a slow roll. They were both pot comitted. He knew she was calling any bet, therefore why would he act like he had anything less than the stone cold nuts?
Absolutely brutal
Not a slowroll, he thought he had more chips behind. That’s why he clearly said “All in”
Really? He had the nuts and acted liked he didn't! Jennifer had him covered, it was pretty freaking obvious!
@@jamesmorris9384 Acting like he didn't is what poker is all about though isn't it?
Definite slowroll. He leaned back in his chair and made a speech like he had a chance to lose the hand.
@@RM-ds2ex not after the money went in
@@RM-ds2ex No, it's not! You never slowroll when you have the nuts, that's just disrespectful! I get where he might put Harmon on tilt by doing it, I guess. Still total BS!
Невероятная раздача.
DOn't think Zeidman was slow-rolling at all. He was hollywooding since he's completely unaware she put him all in. Which is why he gave the quip and said 'all in' himself instead of saying call.
That's worse tho. He was considered a "pro" at the time
He still is
"I knew you had that hand". LOL.
Never saw this hand before!
What “sight-seeing” would he be doing when holding the absolute nuts?? Does he think he is beat by quads? A boat? 🤦🏽♂️
He's Hollywooding. Kind of a scumbag move tbh.
When you put up $10,000 of you own money,l wouldn’t feel sorry for any opponent.I’m trying to win.
@@rivahkillah i think he though he had chips behind. he wanted her to call his all in so he hollywooded for a second
She put him all in. There was no need for the speech or time banking
@@da3v1ls93 Exactly. Take your luck box one-outer double up and move on.
Typical I knew what you have, after seeing the opponent cards
exactly. if you knew why would you go all in lol
@@izzyduzzit00 well, she knew he had 98 since he said on turn he is afraid of AK but she couldnt know he had 98 in diamonds
Wow, 16 year old content that has been posted many times on YT. Way to go PokerGO!
You rarely see these moments in live but in WSOP online you see this happen all the time.
Pace of play is much faster online, therefore you see a lot more hands online and that’s why you remember seeing crazy suck outs. When you see 5-10X the amount of hands in the same time period, you’ll see more big hands and more bad hands but you remember the big ones.
Or you can say online is rigged and keep playing anyway for some reason. I never understand people that do that; it’s like going to a home game where you think the dealer is stacking the deck against you.
@@ianshirreffs5604 def about volume lol
@@Scott-wq5lk Yup the online poker is rigged... Im so tired of the bluff in online. The algorithm of the game repeat
@@ianshirreffs5604 you're saying it's not fact that you see more hands in an hour online than live? Interesting take lol
@@ianshirreffs5604 " it's not because of volume" would mean it's not because of seeing more hands
I remember this. They didn’t show it. After he said some stuff about the hand she says, angrily, “Nice speech.” I think it was her first hand as well. Got there late. Full house first hand. Out.
2005 was like about six years ago, right!
The hand recalled from The Card Counter movie
I watched that wsop in Australia here on espn on pay TV subscription service in Australia here and it's was awesome
Wonder if he would have called if he hit the flush instead of the straight flush on the river.
the beauty of poker
I've had worse happen to me. Flop quads and lose on river to straight flush.Couldn't even be mad. I once beat a guy with the low end straight flush with the higher straight flush. I imagine that would feel a little worse even. LOL what a game!
lying but ok
U were playing with pretzels
@@duncangravestock6101 Like I care if you believe it. LOL what a dork
I believe it because i was the guy who lost.
The commentators were doubting him.
Actually it's the 2005 wsop and not the 2004 as the heading states. I was sitting in the bleachers during this hand but lol was not paying attention until I saw Jen walk away in frustration after the hand.
Thanks for sharing old content
Ur welcome ole boy
Looks like the hand Edward G. Robinson got in the movie "Cincinatti Kid" playing 5 card stud poker.
What makes this so gut wrenching, only one card can beat Harman's full house and it shows up.
Everytime
Pocket 10s would have beat her also. But yeah that’s one hellova tough hand to lose.
@@Bigheadedwon ...that's not what I was talking about. I was talking about the river card. Only one card could beat Harman's full boat, the 7 diamonds. Queen of diamonds was in Harman's hand. So that is out. I agree....this is one tough loss to take.
Do you explain obvious situations and outcomes often?
Talk about a 1 outer.
It’s like getting an upper cut from Mike Tyson 😭🤜🏻🥵
She knew nothing. She never knew he had those cards. What a liar
"I knew it" is kind of a just an expression to say when you have an inkling you're beat, but Zeidman gave her reason to believe he had a straight flush. He worried that she had AK, indicating he likely was holding the low straight. The turn paired the board, and he was pained to think about folding at that point, so that ruled out having a full house or quads while also cluing in that he probably had a flush draw on top of the straight.
I'll always watch it again just for the speech
It got to be the best hands ever, ever…
Zeidman is just unlikeable all round.
Jen Harman is a great poker player and such a babe!
She,s a terrific player and very intriguing .
Biggest cooler since Robl hitting quads on the river 😂
i miss that intro jingle
The only out in the deck! Ouch!
As soon as she raised him to $3k on the turn and he tanked, she knew he didn't have Quad 10s. She didn't have to wait long before he literally told her that he was beat by AK. She put him on 9K or 89, possibly 89Diamonds. That 7 of Diamonds probably felt unreal when she saw it because it was the ONLY card she had to worry about after he spelled out that he was drawing.
That's brutal to lose to that guy AND get slow rolled on top of it.
And in 2012 Ziedman won a bracelet 🙂
Yes, we still hate u Corey after all these years for that speech.
Wasn't this from the 2005 WSOP?
Still extremely tough to take but she's one of the best and could handle it.
I knew you had that hand. Sure Jennifer.
"Guess I could do a lot of sightseeing if I lose this hand." - I've never understood what this meant.
3:31 Jennifer: “Oooh, mamma mia!” ❤️
I remember i had Quads 3s vs a Full house one day ... it was a crazy feeling
yeah and i lost quad 5's to quad 7's( disgusting(
@@dymonkhlopov86 dang losing with Quads sucks , was there a bad beat Jackpot if qualified?
Anyone believe in karma? The fish that won with a straight flush is formal poker pro Cory Zeidman, who was indicted last year on federal charges related to an alleged sports betting money laundering and "fraud scheme," made his initial appearance in court where he entered a not guilty plea. Life has a tendency to slow-roll you if you deserve it.
I never understood this slowroll....👀
nvm... now you got me pondering the same
@@christophermc2 That does make sense. Thanks!
And I thought the online games were always rigged.
If this happened to me during my online game, I would surely flip crazy and shut my account.
Poker is a crazy game not meant for the weak at heart.
Playing15/30 limit on Party Poker back when it was legal, I have QQ opponent has 99 we go 2 bets, flop come QXX 2 bets, turn is a 9 we go 4 bets, river is a 9, he bet I called. Yep, he hit running 9's to make quads.
I agree and ive had the exact thing happen to me , diamonds too.,
@@shivasirons6159 🤣🤣🤣 I’m sure it made your day, for the worse. Hope you’re still enjoying your online poker games.
crazy? no no no , both had playable hands, what is crazy is 99 losing to T4 offsuit when 5 on the river
Best hand I've ever had was the same thing: boat for my opponent on the turn, and the river gave me a straight flush
I will stick to sports wagering..i ACKNOWLEDGE the hustle and have the control forget everything else..the house always WINS..
Harman: I knew you had that hand.
Also Harman: ‘puts him all in anyway’ 🤔
I think she said that because of the slow roll.
regardless if she puts him all in or not. When he bets she's calling. There's not a player in the world that would have folded Harmen's hand.
The real luck here is that the 7 was the only card that would save him
Zeidman talking so basic.. he is amator..just lucky
Some old man said:what came in second sometime do not came in entire centery
Вот это заезд!!! Круче видел только каре королей, убившихся об рояль. Прям плакал.
I hate it when the square of kings gets killed on the piano.. 😂
Хуже есть только два исхода: когда тузы врезаются о роял флеш, и когда о роял флеш врезается стрит флеш
@@ircjesseleeI think you have a translation problem: he said that the best bad beat that he saw was when four kings gets destroyed by royal flush
She in fact "didn't" know he had that hand, because she wouldn't have called lol. She knew it was possible, which of course it was, especially with his "Ace King" comment.
One of the best hands ever
Прикольно смотреть как она переполнена чувством любви к аппоненту за то, что тот её переехал с фулхаусом.. Вот до чего доводит ранний чек..
Never wanna see that kind of river card in my opponent favour.
Todd Brunson called this a slow roll on poker after dark.. i see people in the comments calling it a slow roll. at best it is an "amateur roll" he didn't know she put him all in with the river bet. He wasn't trying to needle her with a slow roll. But if he did, it would have been evil, she so nice.
3:28 lol I knew you had that hand so I called like a donkey. She had no idea he had that hand. What a joke and she’s trying to save face
That 1000 bet on the turn was so bad from Zeidman