Choosing an Amok Hammock - Draumr 5.0, UL Collection, Segl, Skjold 10, Fjol
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- Choosing an Amok Hammock - The new Draumr 5.0, Ultralight Collection, and Skjold 10 tarp, and with the Fjol pad, and traditional gathered end Segl hammock
Full disclosure: Erin and I are partnered with Amok, but they didn't ask me to make this video or even suggest it, I'm not paid to do it, and everything said here is my own opinion.
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I am in the process of ordering mine now! Thank you for this review. Your canoe trip vids are the reason I became interested in these and then speaking with a couple people I know who absolutely swear by the comfort of a hammock compared to a tent sleep has made my decision to switch a very easy one. I also want to note how happily surprised I was that Amok's website has prices that include all duties and taxes for international orders! And the shipping is remarkably cheap! I am beyond excited for my first night of transforming into what I am sure will be the most comfy and cozy bear burrito in all of Northern Saskatchewan! :)
Right on! I'm sure you're going to love it :)
I've had Draumrs for about 3 years now. Just got a 5.0 this year. Fantastic for side sleepers and I wake up refreshed rather than sore and achy like I did in a tent. I'm a canoe camper so I never considered an ultralight, but I just found out from your Temagami video that you can see RIGHT THROUGH THE SIDES. That is seriously cool! I don't know why they don't promote that more. On their website, the ultralight is against a white backdrop, so I had no idea that the material was semi-transparent. Less claustrophobic and easier to see the lions, tigers and bears if you need to!
I ordered mine the day the shop opened! I'm super excited to try it out!
Great review, you know what you’re talking about
Great hAMOK review! 😃 Love the blue coloured hammock!
Still wanting to ask them if that's why they chose that name lol. Love the old green but the blue should pop!
Have been thinking about previous model, look forward to buy this one for this season, thank you for review.
Thanks Jon I just ordered a blue one I can't wait to use it it looks comfy
Still fascinated that a pretty small Norwegian company picked you guys to show off their wares - excellent choice on their part! Also, I so badly want a couple😂
Hahah I actually reached out to them....I knew I needed those hammocks. Thanks OJS!
@@LostLakes That's a score!
Small company? Aren’t they the leading hammock company in Europe? Lol
The Draumr 5.0 looks really good. The drip diverters are a genius add. I see a retro-fit in my future...
Thanks for the preview. Been contemplating getting a hammock, specifically lay-flat designs, but haven't pulled the trigger on that particular purchase yet. Cheers!
Thanks for the info. Always great videos. Cheers
Love the thumbnail for this video, “These are not the droids you’re looking for.”.
Hahah unintended but love it
These look so comfortable... I need one!
Amok sure makes a fine hammock! Thanks for sharing. :):)
Love all the info! Thank you 🙏
Those Amok's look great! I got out in my Dream Hammock last month and got a 0° F night, ready for the summer now!
Really nice presentation of the news on the Draumr hammocks. I'm really impressed by the Draumr UL, what I also like with is that it has less pack volume. Cheers and happy trails!
Thanks Mattias! Yeah I definitely should've mentioned that part...not just the weight, but the size 😁
Always a pleasure to see a new upload from lost lakes, I'm walleye fishing right now and am taking a break to watch way more important!!! Thanks for the great entertainment bro!!!
Hahah thanks Josh!!
Thankyou . You explained everything so well.
Great review Jon😉👍
Very nice and quick presentation ! I don't need an amok but now i feel like i do !
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Finally got myself an Amok! This thing is awesome! Thanks for the great videos. I got the Draumr xl.
This nice thing will be my birthday present of myself to myself next week. Ordered today. Looking forward for getting out and testing it! 🙂
Thanks Jon. That was really helpful.
They look awesome and comfy!
Yes, I have to admit the Amok hammocks are really impressive, I have never used one, but my curiosity has been made aware, of course, you are credible, cheers!
Good basic right down to it review
Great review, nice summary of each of them, I really like you can use a pad in it AND there’s an ultra light version, I do bike packing adventures and that’s a big help, cheers mate love the channel
I'm not into hammock camping as I have to go pee a hundred time each night 😂 but I find their products pretty interesting and well made . And you are a good ambassador too , if I needed one , I would surely be infuenced by your review because I think you are a honest person . Thanks Jon
Hahah is it that much better with a tent? Or does the tent just accommodate a pee bottle better? (🤮). Thanks Sylvain! 😃
I bring a pee bottle with me and the Amock in "chair mode" allows for me to use it without incedent.
That is what the mesh Nalgene holder is for, so you don’t need to dismount. (Well it could be) I just get in and out a lot so have getting in nailed now. I kneel on one knee between the 2 low mesh pockets for center then lift my leg in. Stunning sleep, anywhere.
Bon, can i sugest that you take magnesium chloride? You can get it in any drug store. Boil one liter of water, let it set until cold, pour in a glass container, pour one table spoon of chloride. Drink half of cup at night time, or in the morning and in less than two weeks you'll be new. I advise you its very bitter, it tastes awful, but you'll get used to it. And may Yahuah Eloheinu be with you.
@@walterarredondo3516 is that a prostate treatment? Thanks
Honestly I think the best thing Amok did for themselves in advertising was getting Lost lakes in the team. I mean look at the quality of this video!
Sick rigs, I hope I can get my hands on some before the sell out!
Great review
Bought their tarp because of this video! Thanks! Great purchase!
Right on :) It's brilliantly designed...so easy to use, perfect details
My draumr ul xl came in the mail today. So looking forward to tripping this season.
I went camping a couple of months ago on Whiskey Lake (on one of your videos) and discovered that a hammock is the way to go there....not a flat spot for miles! I enjoy your videos and hope to do a couple of lost lakes trips this summer
Great product review
Thanks Jon - on my spring shopping list. Finally time to join the hammock club, when my dog doesn’t join me 😊
Man's best friend, bane of the hammocker. You're gonna love it!
beauty!
Nice review Jon. I always consider your opinions on products. Could you possibly do a review on what sleeping pads would be best fit and comfort for the hammocks? Hope you and Erin have a great and safe year in your adventures.
Thanks a lot William :) All I can really say is that in the regular Draumr, you can use other pads that are 197x65x9cm (this is an industry standard known as LW/long wide) but I believe the baffles need to run lengthwise along the pad, not across. In the Draumr XL, you have to get the Fjol XL pad for its specific dimensions (I tried my old neoair and it did not work at all)
That is slick. I like it.
Long time hammock camper, and I hear the sweet sirens' song: Buuuuuuyyyyyy meeeeeeeeeee....buuuuuyyyyyy meeeeeeeeee. Their song mesmerizes me, compelling me to "add to cart".
Thank you
Great video thankyou
Brilliant
Well done 👍🏻
Thanks Michael!
Pretty nice. 👍🙂
Hammocks open up so many possibilites for less travelled boreal forest camping. And the Amoks looks amazing. I just wish the ultralight package wasn't so expensive!
So key for our area. Aside from beaches, finding a good tent pad is tough, and if you have two tents to get down, god help you... It ain't cheap but you get what you pay for with their stuff. The quality is excellent
I'm hooked on my Chameleon, though that does look cozy.
Thanks for the good video! I still have 3.0 and I'm still in love with it :). You said the UL you showed is regular version - how tall are you ?? I am 180 cm and I was wondering if this size is right for me ... You look like it is a bit too small for you ... Regards! Paul
really nice detailed review I really wish I can get one of these I would love to review it and try it myself it's a little out of my price range though I believe
Hey Jon. Was that gathered hammock a double? My my tripping hammock has those seams. They get a bit uncomfortable in the night. They have no give like just one piece of fabric. Thanks.
Very good quick summary, only major point I think you missed is the ultralight set also packs down a lot smaller then the normal Draumr, tarp and pad. Really jealous you got the new set, for me the 2 big downsides of the Draumr were the weight and the bugnet zipper over the ridgeline, looks pretty perfect now but since I mostly just do canoe trips I cant justify buying a whole new set to save a couple pounds but I love Amok and am glad they're still working on their design!
Thanks J! That's very true, I've never been a gram-counter but it's definitely both the weight and size that offer an advantage
nice. I like dark green. will a lot of air come through the light ones? 6/13/2022.
Looks like a great way to sleep on a camping trip
As someone who sleeps in a recliner mostly, this looks so comfortable. I have a sleep number bed, but i cant' sleep all night in it. I need this in my bedroom!
Hahah I've often wished I had somewhere to hang it inside
Sweet hammock Jon. Time to go go canoeing, fishing, camping buddy
Almost!!
Great video, but when putting up stats. on weights, etc. could you please include the figures in ounces as well for those of us in the States?
Appreciate the feedback Joe. I thought you guys used both...aren't grams all over your food packages there?
dont you have calculators in the US ??
I have the last one foton nu garden. It is zo light and soft..the first one i can sleep outside!!!!
Thanks Jon. Will there be a Canadian distributer of these? Really interested in one as I am a side sleeper.
As far as I know, they don't use any distributors here and the only way to buy them Canada is direct through their website. They're awesome for side sleeping
Looking for a sil tarp recommendation. Big enough for my one man big Agnes tent. Plenty of tie off loops. Good price.
Nice video, they really do look awesome. I just priced one out with the tarp hammock and pad it was like 869.00 USD which is like 4000 Canadian haha I kid but it’s a lot. Kind of on the expensive side but none the less if I was to get into a hammock style camping this would be the one I would go to
Hahah it's not a cheap hammock but you get what you pay for with it too...their quality definitely matches the price :) And another way to look at it is if you were buying a high quality *tent,* pad and tarp, you'd be paying at least that amount
You can find it on alibaba for 18usd...
The sleep flat is the selling feature, quite unique.
They look like fantastic hammocks. Would love one, if they weren't so cost prohibitive.
It's not a cheap hammock but you get what you pay for with it too...their quality definitely matches the price :)
Great video! Curious about the seal where the top line goes through the bug net. I've seen mosquitos squeeze through very small holes in screen. As a NWO and Manitoba canoe trip enthusiast I worry about this being a week point in bug protection. Thoughts?
Thanks HAP! I'm wondering the same actually. We'll see in a couple of months! If they can, I guess I'll get by by throwing spare clothing over the holes. But I suspect Amok will have thought of this. Maybe it closes the gap when under tension...I meant to check
I’m going to have to try one sometime but I’ve been holding off because of the “bear burrito “ fears 😂.
Hahah the funny thing is the strange sense of security we feel behind 1mm of nylon in a tent... But I've been there, I get it!
Regarding the Ultra Light Sleeping pad and its Winter Light relative....would the Winter Light be too warm for summer? I like the idea of the warmer pad for winter but don't want to over heat in the summer. Hoping you can clarify for me. Thanks.
For sure, the Fjol Winterlight has an R value of 5 which rates it to -18C and the UL is R 3.5, rated to -7C. However, like most temp ratings, they tend to be a bit on the generous side...just the standard for the industry. I've used the Winterlight up to -20C but I add a standard closed cell foam pad to boost the insulation. Any colder than that and I'm not going out without the hot tent lol
for summer canoe tripping, do you typically use the Fjol or the UL? thanks!
The regular fjol is technically a little cooler (R 3 vs 3.5 for UL) but it's marginal so I would buy based on weight more than R-value. The weight difference is quite a bit more substantial
Jon do you use and under quilt in cold or just the air pad and what r value is the air pad .
Hey John, you'd need a very customized DIY under quilt to work with the Draumr's design, and there's currently not one made commercially that I'm aware of. So it's all about the pad. Their Fjol Winterlight has an R value of 5, rated to -18C/0F. I've used it at that temp in the hammock and on the ground and added a cheap closed cell foam pad...had no issues. I made some winter camping tutorials for Amok (recently posted on their channel) if it helps.
Basics: th-cam.com/video/Ja618OVWEMU/w-d-xo.html
Staying warm: th-cam.com/video/Q9u9FQzUKJw/w-d-xo.html
Hi, I am 175 cm. Should I go for a regular size? Some highly recommend going for an XL regardless of your height because it has more room. From a keeping balance and user-friendly point of view, which size would be better for me?
If your girlfriend has a chance, would she still stay on the regular or switch to the XL? Thanks
Hi John...any concerns with the durability of the UL? That is my only worry as I am fairly close to the stated weight limit.
It's very strong but it is inherently less durable than the regular (with a lower weight limit as you know) so I would say if you're close to that limit go with the regular. I know it's a little heavier but not bad and you can still save grams with the UL pad and tarp. You don't want to worry about hearing a rip when you gingerly hop in. And if a seam did tear, the hammock would be pretty useless which could be a problem if you're on a long trip
How is the 5.0 in colder weather. Since it’s not completely covered like a tent,do you find it gets quite a lot colder when trying to sleep?
Hey Kirk, I don't find it makes a big diff. The main thing is the pad you put into the hammock. Their Fjol Winterlight pad has an R value of 5 and if it's really cold (coldest I used it in was about -20C) I'll put a CCF pad on top. Did two vids for Amok on winter hammocking on their channel this past winter if needed
I’ve been on a waiting list to preorder one for awhile! They must be pretty popular lol. Great informative video!
Thanks Hayden! Seems like they have no trouble selling out
Any tips or tricks on getting into a mummy style sleeping bag? I usually wrestle around a fair bit only to end up with ok results.
Hahah afraid not, I'm in the wiggling around camp too
Pole set should come with 2021 hammocks at the price and a option if you lose them or have a 2020 model.
It's not a cheap hammock but you get what you pay for with it too...it's a quality product :)
Hey Jon, I have gone back and forth with the idea of putting my small tent in storage and buying an Amok Draumr XL to do some cold weather camping. And thought since I trust you and your opinion I would ask you what you thought. I am 67 years old and weigh a little more then I should. I am not concerned about getting into the hammock BUT am concerned about getting into a sleeping bag in the hammock. At 67 I don't bend quite as well as I used to and I worry I might not be able to navigate in a Draumr. What are your thoughts?
Hey Jay, as much as I hate to say it, I would caution you somewhat. Getting into the sleeping bag in a hammock is a bit of a wriggling act. But I truly adore sleeping in it...I guess you could re-sell it if it didn't work out, but I will admit there's some risk of that given the need for flexibility in there
I already own a 10x12 foot sil-ny tarp from Cooke Custom Sewing. Would that pair well with the Draumr or would I need to purchase the Skjold tarp?
Hmmm I'm pretty sure it would cover you as the Skjold 10 is 3m x 3.8m (10' x 12.5'). And I imagine yours is square on the corners so slightly more coverage there
Looking for sil nylon tarp recommendation. Big enough to cover solo tent. Light weight for bike touring. Plenty of tie off spots. Good price. Thx
I haven't used any in recent years aside from this Amok Skjold 10 UL (which I love but it many not have the tie off loops you want) but have also heard good things about these ones from CCS
www.canadianoutdoorequipment.com/tarps.html
How tall are you? I am 6-4 and have an original XL Draumr. I like the UL version but if I can fit in the regular size I'd take that. The XL is plenty big but almost too big...
Same height as you. My girlfriend has the regular and I've tried it... Definitely stick with the XL!
Question: How tall are you? I'm looking to buy one, but difficult to decide regular or XL, as I'm right on the 185cm limit they suggest as max for the regular. Seeing you in the regular UL in the video, it would be good to know your height
I'm 191cm. At 185 I would still highly recommend going with the XL
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What type of sleeping bag do you reccomend with these?
No style in particular, any bag will work. I use down mummy bags, the higher the fill power the better of course depending on budget
John, how tippy is the XL? Which pad would you recommend and hoe important are the Amok tarps to get compared to an alternate brand to use with the Amok? Lastly, how are these for side sleeping?
Not that tippy to me...I also put my pack under the footbox so that it can't go to the ground. I would really try to stick with the Amok pads, and if you want the XL I believe you MUST use their pads. And whatever pad you use must have vertical baffles. I tried my NeoAir in it, with horizontal baffles and it can't hold it's structure. I've used my Eureka VCS 13 tarp with it and it works well, but their Skjold 10 is an exceptional tarp so easy to secure. Excellent for side sleeping!
@@LostLakes I JUST got a Draumer 5.0 XL largely because of your endorsement and your use of them in videos. I ordered about 4 days ago and it is here in S. Ontario from Europe already! Very fast service and the product looks great. I look forward to setting it up and using it and I thank you for reinvigorating my desire to camp! Stay safe and keep at it, it would be great to meet someday, we share many of the same outlooks on life.
Fantastic! Their service is top notch. Enjoy it Tom :)
Hey Jon, is the Amok 100 times better than the Hennessy? I'm still on the fence on if I want to switch or not. Sleeping relatively straight with the Amok seems to be less of a challenge. I sometimes struggle fitting a sleeping pad in the Hennessy and has resulted in a few sleepless nights lol. I got an underquilt for it though, I'm hoping that makes a difference.
We definitely prefer the Draumr. We loved our old hammocks so I'm not saying you're at a big disadvantage, but now knowing what the Draumr is like, we wouldn't go back. It's more comfortable, roomy, and more of a home where you have room to set up a bit.
@@LostLakes thanks I'll keep that in mind 👍 I was also looking at 1P tents and found some that pack down nice and small. Decisions decisions
This looks nice but I’ve been through monsoons in my Hennessy without a drop of water getting in. It looks like the wind would blow the rain up under the tarp. Have you experienced this?
If you’re still reviewing comments, I just bought the UL for its lighter weight. Do you have suggestions for winterizing it? Preventing the wind from getting through, for example. I don’t really want to have to shell out for a whole new hammock (Draumr 5.0) just for the winter. Plus, it’s quite a bit heavier.
If there's a windchill, close the bug mesh. That'll cut the wind substantially, however it may trap frost from your breath. And avoid setting up in open areas like the edge of a lake where you'll get more wind of course. The pad is very important, and you'll want one with an R-value of 5 or higher (like their Winterlight pad). You can also throw a regular old closed cell foam pad on top before you get in to add a bit of warmth. I've done that down to -17C (with a -20C sleeping bag) and got by. But generally I only use the hammock down to -5C to -10C
@@LostLakes thanks for your really informative videos and thanks so much for the response. What about wind coming through the fabric of the hammock though? I’m wondering about fashioning some “wings” from an old sleeping pad to stash behind the triangular grab handles on each side. (??)
No prob :) The bug mesh will really cut the overall flow through the shelter but yeah some will still cut through the hammock and mesh. You could try to figure out some sort of wrap but I think you'd be much better off (in terms of weight, bulk, performance) by just adding an overbag to your existing sleeping bag to help cut wind. And yeah, if you can, set it up in a naturally sheltered spot where the wind won't be such a big factor
How well do these work for side sleepers?
Very well. They're flat sleeping hammocks. I'm primarily a side sleeper
hi, question. when you are sleeping, does you body tends to slide forward ? i am asking because most video on youtube shows ppl sitting in it, instead of laying flat.
Naw, it's because the Draumr has a "chair mode" that allows you to sit up like that. You pull two straps on the head end and two straps on the foot end, and it gives it a shape like a chair. Very comfy
btw, did you seam seal your amok tarp ?
Yeah I did just for maximum security out there. Such an easy job, might as well
When's the Amok giveaway contest? 😉
5:30 lol!!
We'll have to see when they wanna do it, but I'll keep y'all posted 😉
Great stuff! I would like to try out one of those, but they are slightly out of my budget. I'll have to stick with my gathered end hammock for now.
So for someone over 200 lbs & 6'3" I'm guessing the XL model? Nice mod on the bug net: a must have in many parts of Canada (as you know only too well).
Definitely go XL :) I barely fit in Erin's regular size Draumr
@@LostLakes Guess I'll sit in the queue for the contest with the rest of the herd :D
@@brucewayne2091 😜
Looks like a very well developed hammock! Norwegian company, I see.
Another quality Nordic product!
Thank you for the overview Jon! Do you have access to a coupon code by any chance :D?
Thanks Delmar! Afraid I don't have one for ya....just the odd clearance sale on their site is all I've seen
@@LostLakes No trouble :) ! I am about to take the hammock dive so I am looking around for options. On an unrelated note, I have to say I like going back to your older vids and seeing how your channel has grown - along with your shelter selection hahaha. You have a keen eye for nice scenery and your editing is on point, no nonsense! Keep up the great content, I know I'm always in a for a treat when I see a new upload.
@@delmar1705 really appreciate that Delmar! Hope hammocking treats you well 🙂
Did Amok get their Canadian supplier issues fixed?
Yeah they're shipping to Canada again :)
Would you use this hammock on tropical weather_
I would. I've used it in two enormous rain storms this summer...two of the biggest I've experienced. If the rain comes with heavy wind, it's important to pitch the tarp low and close to the hammock to avoid mist or driving rain getting blown under. And ideally to situate the hammock in reasonably dense woods to help as well
@@LostLakes thanks for your answer!
I liked the first one I have to admit, but, and you wouldn't believe it to look at me. My ancestors got out of the trees 4 million years ago and I owe it to them not to get back in....I'll always be a ground dweller (or knuckle dragger as the ex wife would have it) :)
Si, they had to get out of the trees. There aren't many on Dartmoor. 😉🙂👍
@@BrianthatiscalledBrian You make a valid point there sir, I'd need a very long line to attach between two trees. Maybe they could invent a one tree hammock...
♥ Awe, hahaha!
The word "segl" would be pronounced like "sail" in Norwegian, unless there is some marketing word salad going on 😁
Most comfortable Hammock ever.
Hell yea!
We would love a promo code for a discount Amok !
Wish I could help but I don't think I've seen them use promo codes (I could be wrong)
Come on! Get them to sell on Amazon Canada or something !!
I have never used a hammock. More of a tent guy.
Yikes! Just came across the 5.0 on finn.no here in Norway(kind of like craigslist, I guess), and the seller wants 1030 CAD for it. 🤯🤬
Hahah wow....
@@LostLakes Not a fan of scalpers...🤬