@@richardchen1267 you do realise how much fuel and oil it consumes? could never make it into street use because it couldnt meet emission requirements and the range would be awful, its nothing other then a nieche product, thats why he only sells a handfull of those.
Seeing and hearing riders such as Steve Spray, Robert Dunlop, Ron Haslam cane the Norton Rotarys around the TT course was imprinted on my mind for ever, 22 years of looking later I get my own Rotary! OK its no where near the highly refined machines from the genius Mr Crighton but for a fact it gave birth to the 588 Nortons. I got myself a Hercules W2000, paint and chrome was shot but it was all there and 1,400 genuine miles with a pristine rotor housing it was brought back to A1 condition without the need for rare engine parts. What does it go like? A Bantam on steroids! Pop bang wirrr bloody hilarious to ride, rubbish hunting on the overrun but I love it. DKW who sold under the Hercules name in USA committed to selling 2000 in 2 years, fell short of the target so sold the rights and production equipment to Norton. My single rotor 294 is half a Norton. Mr Crighton could you tweak my Herc please 27HP not enough!
I've always loved rotary engines, motorcycle rotary, automotive rotary, Suzuki RE-5 was one I'm familiar with we sold them at the Suzuki Shop I worked at in the 76,77,78,79. I turbocharged many Mazda RX-7'S, those engines rev higher and thrive on turbo's & nitrous oxide,light, compact,lots of power too. That bike of yours is really something
If I remember correctly, one of the issues with rotary engines - I'm thinking of the Mazdas, was the seals at the ends of the rotors would wear and fail which was a weakness that I don't has ever been resolved. I had an RX-2 and it was pretty powerful for a small lump, and when it got to a certain RPM it was like a VTEC engine, suddenly there'd be just gobs of power and it would take off like a scalded cat.
If maintained properly those seals will actually last a pretty decent amount of mileage, the key is keeping a good tune and maintaining good oil at all times.
Mazda managed to resolve the issues with the apex seals and so long as they were properly maintained, the seals would last more than 100k mls. What killed the rotary engine was not the seal issue although. many people thought it was an endemic problem, but the pollution as they couldn't get it clean enough for modern legislation. Another point was that they were thirst although Mazda eventually got acceptable fuel consumption out of them. The RX7 which was discontinued in 2002 is a modern classic and a big farorite with the retro horse power brigade. I hear that no normal garage will touch an RX7 because of the fears with the rotary engine so its left to the specialists
@@StanleyKubick1You expect too much from the average car owner. I wonder how many car owners actually know how a petrol engine works, let alone a Wankel rotary. Most owners are dumb as to the workings of their vehicle, which is the excuse why the manufacturers and legislators have ladled our car with gimmicks.
Reduicing weight in the process. But as far as I understand, the cooling problem is at the outer wall plate near the sparkplugs, the sandwich plates at that location, and the rotor tips. Is that not so?
@@howardosborne8647 How about about an aircooled rotor mazda 13B this can be done by cutting excess metal out and more air ports on billet Al side plates. its been done for some airplane applications.
Crighton sell the complete bike, but the engine itself is made by sister company Rotron. Unknown if the latter will sell you the engine by itself. rotronpower.com
I’ve had a Mazda rotary rx8 and it lacked hugely in torque, was a gas guzzler and even with top quality oil regular wore out fast. Think it’s great that people keep trying but the blue smoke when he revved it I wonder if it would ever comply to latest emissions.
@TonyK3130 most track bikes don't have emissions regulations to abide by, they arent registered for road use and often remove emissions equipment to cut weight and increase performance.
@@TheRaceBay Every revolution of the rotor the motor sucks in and burns 2.1L of air and fuel but produces no more power than an RSV of half that capacity...There are no race classes for that size of engine.
Brian mentioned about the links (or lack thereof) in the recording but it was cut for time. Maybe we'll do a short on the suspension? Update: we did! th-cam.com/users/shortsqrDu7Lqd6dw?feature=share
@@user-ii1iy8fz1d I would be disappointed if it was a wheelie machine and didn't have an aftermarket sophisticated electronics package to keep it in line
Because it uses a little oil in the combustion chamber like a 2 stroke does. It only produces visible smoke when the engine is cold...once up to working temp there is no visible exhaust smoke.
Possibly - this transmission was made by Nova who can be found at novaracing.co.uk If there's enough interest we may do some videos just focusing on gearboxes and other components of cars and bikes, as well as complete vehicles
@@99.9percent9 only that it needs oil injection (or an oil premix) other than that they are very different. I’ve had a few rotary engine cars. A lot of power from a very small engine.
Parajet, Rotron and Crighton are all part of the same group of companies. Have a watch of this: Crighton CR700W Backstory: Brian Crighton & Gilo Cardozo interviews th-cam.com/video/WsWG7KNET_Y/w-d-xo.html
Fascinated By rotarys. Understand that once running, they will continue to run, even after losing coolant & lubricant. Seems a natural for light single engine aircraft.
The twin rotor has the firing of a Six cylinder two stroke in a smaller package for the power output, incredible for Torque and power … I’d love one …. Gotta be smoother than my 1981 GSX1100 …
Hi mate. A 2 rotor is the same as a 4 cyclinder 4 stroke - 2 firing cycles per output shaft revolution. The thing is the eccentric shaft spins 3 times per rotor revolution so each rotor has one firing cycle per revolution of the eccentric shaft
If I've understood it correctly (and I'm nowhere near as clever as Scarbs and Brian) each of the 3 faces of the rotor is the equivalent of an individual piston in a reciprocating engine. A revolution is therefore a complete rotation of one of those faces, which in doing so passes through 4 quadrants of the rotor housing providing the 4 strokes. For a single face of the rotor then, it is not possible to fire more than once per revolution as there is nothing to ignite until the next one. If you take the rotor as a whole, it is always in 3 of the 4 Stokes at any one point during a revolution - much like a 3 cylinder inline engine would be, I suppose. I really hope someone more knowledgeable than me turns up here soon to make more sense of this!
If some body wants a track bike that is lightweight, plenty of horsepower and only for the track, then perhaps the Suter MMX 500 could be a better option. That will at least finish a few laps at any track before needing to stop for fuel. Having a rotary bike will mean you get 15 mins of track action before needing to come in to refuel. Great conceptually, but will be terrible to live with. I wished the host would ask questions that will add value rather than prompting the Crighton representative to say things on the pamphlet
How do you know that you can only get 15min of track time? The Rotary Norton NRV588 with a similar rotary engine won the British Superbike Championship, so it can’t be that bad.💁🏼♂️
@@kasperkjrsgaard1447 yes, you are correct! The rotary isn’t so good on the street, as fuel consumption at lower RPMs is poor, but at higher RPM, it’s actually quite efficient. One of the reasons the Mazda 787B won LeMans was that they need less fuel stops than the opposition.
What a great car that was. Would you be interested in an in-depth tech review of older cars and bikes too? We're only just getting started with this channel and suggestions are welcome
This overall design was brilliant when introduced by Mazda many years ago, and it’s still brilliant for several important reasons. But Mazda was never able to develop rotor seals, capable of holding up to the heat, friction and pressure loads they are subject to. Has this engineer worked that out? If so, I want one for my airplane.
Introduced by Mazda??? WtF! Sachs was the first NSU-Wankel licensee to Introduced the Wankel KKM57. Unfortunately the Wankel engine offers no advantages over reciprocating engine and has several major disadvantages. This 1990s vintage Norton engine was originally designed by Sachs as the KC-60 developed for aircraft applications but abandoned due to reliability issues. No aircraft manufacturers use Wankel engines No Wankel engines have ever managed to pass a FAA or EASA airworthiness certification test. Wankel engines are inherently unreliable and their MTBF is extremely low, unpredictable.
What most people fail to realize... 700cc rotary = 1400cc piston equivalent... not because rotaries are better.... just that they displace their volume every revolution, instead of every other revolution.
the exhaust sucking air through the engine to cool it is something you will eventually see used on other bikes, maybe not rotary but air-cooled 4T engines need all the help they can get, air-cooled 4T engines are simple and easily maintained but tend to run hot so extra cooling with no moving parts is an obvious progression, it could pull hot air from the barrels & head with a shroud or casing and reworking of the fins, I'm thinking Suzuki ram-air system used on the 1970s 2T GT's hooked up to an exhaust system like this bike has ! anyone up for the challenge, get in the shed,
I can't find it back but I saw a video about rotery whereby they turned the working" inside" out wich solved most problems a rotery is know for like the seals ect. When I saw it I was like amazed how simple the solution was just turn the workings around. Mazda chefs must have had a burn the day they see that video.
Because all the vast experiments that Chrighton and his team did from the early days showed the rising rate linkage system to be far worse for rear end control than a conventional twin or single shock directly attached to the swingarm. The championship winning Duckhams bikes all had twin shock suspension.
@@howardosborne8647 Sorry but that is bad research. The rising rate gives you more appropriate control throughout the shock's stroke. If you add a complex multi-stage spring and valving setup (which adds bulk and weight) then you don't need rising rate. Otherwise you do.
I guess most people don't care, but the cloud of smoke would annoy me. Does it go away? A shot of it running without the cloud would have been awesome.
I believe they were intially sold for around 95000 GBP. And that is not a ridiculous price for a motorcycle? From a manufacturer no one had ever heard from? Who is kidding who? This world has gone completely mad!
Crichton is an engineering legend...if I had a spare £95k,I would throw it on his table for one of those...only the clueless haven't heard of him...he deserves a MBE for services to engineering!
Interesting concept and execution… poor application considering the excessive oil consumption and the near complete lack of low/mid range torque that plague all Rotary engines ….that is unless you rev the snot out of it which you never see in any videos concerning this motorcycle…hmmmmm???
These rotary motors of the Crighton design have never suffered from poor low or mid range torque. It is a fallacy that these Rotron or the previous Chrighton Norton bikes were gutless or peaky. Also the 'excess oil consumption' you refer to is really quite minimal in reality.
Well you have obviously never ridden a rotary engine. The power is linear all the way through the rev range. I've only rode a Norton Rotary water cooled engine and that had no engine oil usage couldn't comment on the car engines. It does use 2-stroke engine oil in the fuel by design.
Many "keyboard" experts on here...........LOL What an amazing machine & one of passion..... Full credit to Brian for all the effort in making this a reality
This machine is a masterpiece. A Wankel freak myself. Same class as that 575 2T built in Switzerland. Just can't get on the guys name. Builds schassis for moto 2.
The world thinks were advanced and that consumers can buy the best cutting edge tech/machinery/vehicles. But we have what we have because of regulations, not because its the best. Rotarys and 2 strokes are 2 engine configurations that are far superior for performance applications but have been written off by major manufacturers.
Great but chain driven.......so I understand the Dunlop F1 was shaft driven but was subject to failure as the only weakness - surely worth a second look ??
Most of Respect. Every time i think, the Rotary or Wankel engines are History, there are some new ones. Also Mazda surprises some weeks ago with a new fascinating Wankel.
@@zacharyradford5552 it would slow the transition from side to side thats for sure maybe in road racing you want some weight up high. I always though the lower the center of gravity the better but I also dont race road bikes.
The world needs more of these bikes ❤
The world needs more Brummie metal bashers!
Just needs more custom bikes."what bike you got"....
Custom honda.
The specs are insane, just as the sound is! Love it! ❤
Such a wonderful sounding bike... Love them.
A rotary won the bsb championship in 1994 , they later banned it because it was faster than than the rest of the grid!
A bike that was engineered by Brian Crighton and the spiritual ancestor of this machine
Imagine if it wasn’t banned, the development of the rotary engine for motorbikes would increase and prices of the bikes would reduce
@@richardchen1267We probably could be owning rotary road bikes by now if it wasn’t banned 🥲
@@richardchen1267 you do realise how much fuel and oil it consumes? could never make it into street use because it couldnt meet emission requirements and the range would be awful, its nothing other then a nieche product, thats why he only sells a handfull of those.
@@iNFiN3 wasn’t really talking about only him developing it.
Seeing and hearing riders such as Steve Spray, Robert Dunlop, Ron Haslam cane the Norton Rotarys around the TT course was imprinted on my mind for ever, 22 years of looking later I get my own Rotary! OK its no where near the highly refined machines from the genius Mr Crighton but for a fact it gave birth to the 588 Nortons. I got myself a Hercules W2000, paint and chrome was shot but it was all there and 1,400 genuine miles with a pristine rotor housing it was brought back to A1 condition without the need for rare engine parts. What does it go like? A Bantam on steroids! Pop bang wirrr bloody hilarious to ride, rubbish hunting on the overrun but I love it. DKW who sold under the Hercules name in USA committed to selling 2000 in 2 years, fell short of the target so sold the rights and production equipment to Norton. My single rotor 294 is half a Norton. Mr Crighton could you tweak my Herc please 27HP not enough!
May you enjoy many more miles on your Hercules, however much power it makes!
Great video and commentary. Finally someone who actually showed what we wanted to see,,, the guts of the engine😊. 👍
Glad that you enjoyed it. We're hoping to do the same for other racing machines soon.
I've always loved rotary engines, motorcycle rotary, automotive rotary, Suzuki RE-5 was one I'm familiar with we sold them at the Suzuki Shop I worked at in the 76,77,78,79. I turbocharged many Mazda RX-7'S, those engines rev higher and thrive on turbo's & nitrous oxide,light, compact,lots of power too. That bike of yours is really something
If only it *was* ours!
Fantastic video. I can't believe I'm one of the first 500 subscribers to this channel.
Great to have you on board!
If I remember correctly, one of the issues with rotary engines - I'm thinking of the Mazdas, was the seals at the ends of the rotors would wear and fail which was a weakness that I don't has ever been resolved. I had an RX-2 and it was pretty powerful for a small lump, and when it got to a certain RPM it was like a VTEC engine, suddenly there'd be just gobs of power and it would take off like a scalded cat.
If maintained properly those seals will actually last a pretty decent amount of mileage, the key is keeping a good tune and maintaining good oil at all times.
Mazda managed to resolve the issues with the apex seals and so long as they were properly maintained, the seals would last more than 100k mls. What killed the rotary engine was not the seal issue although. many people thought it was an endemic problem, but the pollution as they couldn't get it clean enough for modern legislation. Another point was that they were thirst although Mazda eventually got acceptable fuel consumption out of them. The RX7 which was discontinued in 2002 is a modern classic and a big farorite with the retro horse power brigade. I hear that no normal garage will touch an RX7 because of the fears with the rotary engine so its left to the specialists
Yeah, seals and emissions issues.
But for a RACE BIKE...as we've seen, "they'll" rule it out because they can't beat it.
so you had a rotary powered car but you don't know what apex seals are? curious
@@StanleyKubick1You expect too much from the average car owner. I wonder how many car owners actually know how a petrol engine works, let alone a Wankel rotary. Most owners are dumb as to the workings of their vehicle, which is the excuse why the manufacturers and legislators have ladled our car with gimmicks.
crighton solved the inherant rotary heating problem by feeding coolant through the e-shaft, keeping the center of the engine cool.
Reduicing weight in the process.
But as far as I understand, the cooling problem is at the outer wall plate near the sparkplugs, the sandwich plates at that location, and the rotor tips. Is that not so?
@@blipman17 yes it can be, but its exascerbated by the rotors expanding outward "pinching" the apex seals tighter and tighter
The exhaust ejector cooling system,as it is known. Super simple but very effective innovation.
@@howardosborne8647 How about about an aircooled rotor mazda 13B this can be done by cutting excess metal out and more air ports on billet Al side plates. its been done for some airplane applications.
Fantastic insights! Brilliant video guys. Looking forward so seeing more. Subscribed!
More to come!
Wish thay would make a modern 750 2 stroke bike or bigger 😂 i love anything 2 stroke or rotery
100% with you on that comment.
Somewhere saw a video of 2 kx 500 cylinders on a motorcycle
Have there been any rotary two-stroke bikes?
@@bradwilliams5242 yep iv seen a twin cr500 motor
@@Fee.1 not sure the f1 was great tho
did crigthon sale the engine individually or full bike?
Crighton sell the complete bike, but the engine itself is made by sister company Rotron. Unknown if the latter will sell you the engine by itself. rotronpower.com
Now all we need is a singel rotary dirt bike. Now that would be something AMAZING.
I need this to get to work, early.
Wish them the best❤❤
I’ve had a Mazda rotary rx8 and it lacked hugely in torque, was a gas guzzler and even with top quality oil regular wore out fast. Think it’s great that people keep trying but the blue smoke when he revved it I wonder if it would ever comply to latest emissions.
it's a track only bike.
@@MrKdr500 The environment doesn't care where it runs. The exhaust doesn't stay within the fences.
And I don't care about the environment ❤
@@daveseemerollin6357 If that is not the most asinine comment ever made by anyone anywhere.
@TonyK3130 most track bikes don't have emissions regulations to abide by, they arent registered for road use and often remove emissions equipment to cut weight and increase performance.
I had a Norton interpol 2, seized the engine and spent £1200 having the engine rebuilt in Shenstone by Richard Negus. Worth every penny.
Could've bought a honda for that....
@@ianvcurtisfineartsculptor.3709 Maybe. They both have an interest in old relics.
Superb design ideas
It really is very clever. My favourite detail is the chassis doubling as the oil tank!
Okay...I'm sold! When will the road street legal version be available!!!!
What race class would you put a 2.1L bike in...??
How did you get to that figure?
Valid question, though. I wonder if there's a Formula Libre for bikes?
@@TheRaceBay Every revolution of the rotor the motor sucks in and burns 2.1L of air and fuel but produces no more power than an RSV of half that capacity...There are no race classes for that size of engine.
that is just fantastic
Interesting bike, and good video!
Glad you enjoyed it
I love this bike! Amazing craftmanship.
I like it, but no shock linkage...?
Possibly to keep the wheelbase short?
Brian mentioned about the links (or lack thereof) in the recording but it was cut for time. Maybe we'll do a short on the suspension?
Update: we did! th-cam.com/users/shortsqrDu7Lqd6dw?feature=share
Guy Martins test ride on one of these was awesome.
Cool toy but what is the point? Will we ever get to ride it? Will it ever be available?
For a 100,000 you can own one.
What is the torque of the engine and at what rpm is the peak power and torque?
Can you show a power graph
Max. Peak 220HP
Max. Peak RPM 10500RPM
Max. Torque 105 FT/LBS
Max. Torque RPM 9500RPM
Full engine information: rotronpower.com/rt690xe-rotary-engine/
I think the end sce e w the bike stumbling and amoking oretty well sums up rotarys.
same size motor as a rd350 - work of art! I want one
Stunning bike. Does it have electronics? How did it keep the front down at such a rediculous power to weight ratio?
Rider skill/respect.
@@user-ii1iy8fz1d I would be disappointed if it was a wheelie machine and didn't have an aftermarket sophisticated electronics package to keep it in line
I had trouble following Mr Crighton's fast speech, the auto subtitle helped a lot.
Very nicely made! But why does it smoke like a 2-stroke?
Because it uses a little oil in the combustion chamber like a 2 stroke does. It only produces visible smoke when the engine is cold...once up to working temp there is no visible exhaust smoke.
Does it mix the oil in with the fuel? (like a 2 stroke) Or does the oil leak into the combustion chamber?
Is there a aftermarket transmission of that type available for bikes?
Possibly - this transmission was made by Nova who can be found at novaracing.co.uk
If there's enough interest we may do some videos just focusing on gearboxes and other components of cars and bikes, as well as complete vehicles
What is the wear on the rotor lobes like .
APEXseal
Why does it smoke so much on start up?
ロータリーはオイルを燃焼して潤滑してるから
It’s similar to a two stroke engine as it has a small amount of oil injected into the rotor housing for lubrication.
@@streddaz Oh okay, so it's a two stroke rotary
@@99.9percent9 only that it needs oil injection (or an oil premix) other than that they are very different. I’ve had a few rotary engine cars. A lot of power from a very small engine.
@@99.9percent9
No, it’s a rotary.
Would love to learn more about this ..any work going ???
We have a few other videos and shorts on this channel about the bike. For everything else I suggest you try giloindustries.com
Smooth running as they come too.
Until it shits out an apex seal
Will go on sale?
No, Creighton is a notorious vaporware investment scam
That's shear genius! 💯
Fucking awesome. I want one.
brilliant engine!
I notice the Parajet posters on the wall. When is this man going to design a rotary Powered Paraglider engine?
Parajet, Rotron and Crighton are all part of the same group of companies. Have a watch of this: Crighton CR700W Backstory: Brian Crighton & Gilo Cardozo interviews
th-cam.com/video/WsWG7KNET_Y/w-d-xo.html
Fascinated By rotarys. Understand that once running, they will continue to run, even after losing coolant & lubricant. Seems a natural for light single engine aircraft.
I think it’s mega, I would love to ride one 👍
When will i be able to buy one
Never, Creighton is a notorious vaporware scam
Why so Negative, Wilhelm? 19 comments, none of them remotely complimentary about rotaries or those that develop them?
Do you have to mix oil with the gas? If so, forget it.
so why is it not in gp or sbk, i mean why havent manufacturers adopted it
The twin rotor has the firing of a Six cylinder two stroke in a smaller package for the power output, incredible for Torque and power … I’d love one …. Gotta be smoother than my 1981 GSX1100 …
Hi mate. A 2 rotor is the same as a 4 cyclinder 4 stroke - 2 firing cycles per output shaft revolution. The thing is the eccentric shaft spins 3 times per rotor revolution so each rotor has one firing cycle per revolution of the eccentric shaft
Why does the rotor only fire once per revolution? Wouldn't it be more efficient and more powerful to fire on every "stroke"?
If I've understood it correctly (and I'm nowhere near as clever as Scarbs and Brian) each of the 3 faces of the rotor is the equivalent of an individual piston in a reciprocating engine.
A revolution is therefore a complete rotation of one of those faces, which in doing so passes through 4 quadrants of the rotor housing providing the 4 strokes.
For a single face of the rotor then, it is not possible to fire more than once per revolution as there is nothing to ignite until the next one.
If you take the rotor as a whole, it is always in 3 of the 4 Stokes at any one point during a revolution - much like a 3 cylinder inline engine would be, I suppose.
I really hope someone more knowledgeable than me turns up here soon to make more sense of this!
interesting i think the big brands are watching because in 2027 in Motogp the engines will be with less CC
If some body wants a track bike that is lightweight, plenty of horsepower and only for the track, then perhaps the Suter MMX 500 could be a better option. That will at least finish a few laps at any track before needing to stop for fuel. Having a rotary bike will mean you get 15 mins of track action before needing to come in to refuel. Great conceptually, but will be terrible to live with.
I wished the host would ask questions that will add value rather than prompting the Crighton representative to say things on the pamphlet
How do you know that you can only get 15min of track time? The Rotary Norton NRV588 with a similar rotary engine won the British Superbike Championship, so it can’t be that bad.💁🏼♂️
@@streddaz
And the Isle of Man in 91 or 92.
@@kasperkjrsgaard1447 yes, you are correct!
The rotary isn’t so good on the street, as fuel consumption at lower RPMs is poor, but at higher RPM, it’s actually quite efficient. One of the reasons the Mazda 787B won LeMans was that they need less fuel stops than the opposition.
What a great car that was. Would you be interested in an in-depth tech review of older cars and bikes too? We're only just getting started with this channel and suggestions are welcome
@@streddazyes very true, a fantastic engine for racing thats where the rotary engine really shines
I'd love to see sponsership for one of the top 10 IOM TT 2023 competitors put this beautiful bike through it's paces at TT 2024 🙏😎🏍️❤️
Wouldn't that be something?!
i believe guy martin has tested someones rotary saw a video a few months ago@@TheRaceBay
That would be this one.
that bike is crazy.
... but in a good way?
This overall design was brilliant when introduced by Mazda many years ago, and it’s still brilliant for several important reasons. But Mazda was never able to develop rotor seals, capable of holding up to the heat, friction and pressure loads they are subject to. Has this engineer worked that out? If so, I want one for my airplane.
Introduced by Mazda??? WtF!
Sachs was the first NSU-Wankel licensee to Introduced the Wankel KKM57.
Unfortunately the Wankel engine offers no advantages over reciprocating engine and has several major disadvantages.
This 1990s vintage Norton engine was originally designed by Sachs as the KC-60 developed for aircraft applications but abandoned due to reliability issues.
No aircraft manufacturers use Wankel engines
No Wankel engines have ever managed to pass a FAA or EASA airworthiness certification test.
Wankel engines are inherently unreliable and their MTBF is extremely low, unpredictable.
What most people fail to realize... 700cc rotary = 1400cc piston equivalent... not because rotaries are better.... just that they displace their volume every revolution, instead of every other revolution.
the exhaust sucking air through the engine to cool it is something you will eventually see used on other bikes, maybe not rotary but air-cooled 4T engines need all the help they can get, air-cooled 4T engines are simple and easily maintained but tend to run hot so extra cooling with no moving parts is an obvious progression, it could pull hot air from the barrels & head with a shroud or casing and reworking of the fins, I'm thinking Suzuki ram-air system used on the 1970s 2T GT's hooked up to an exhaust system like this bike has !
anyone up for the challenge, get in the shed,
The air-cooling system is very clever!
It's a failed design that has never been successfully demonstrated
If the Cars have the Mazda 787B
Motorcycles have Crighton CR700W. What a monster
The 787B would make a great video. Does anyone know where they are? One is in the Mazda HQ in Japan but the other 2?
The greatest bike ever !
I wish they sold this engine by its self.
Stock standard PP !!!!
I can't find it back but I saw a video about rotery whereby they turned the working" inside" out wich solved most problems a rotery is know for like the seals ect. When I saw it I was like amazed how simple the solution was just turn the workings around. Mazda chefs must have had a burn the day they see that video.
So the rotor becomes a stator and the housing spins???
@@TheRaceBay no the rotor still spins haha. But the seals are in the housing not in the rotor, and the intake and exhaust ports are in the rotor.
Wankel engines are obsolete technology and no long r mass produced in any legitimate applications
Ok... you've got my attention. What's the cost???
Believe it's £95,000 but don't hold me to that. Only interested in the engineering
Totaries have slways shown promise.They had a problem with the rotor rings which wore away qiickly and the pettol consumption. Both curable.
Wankel engines are inherently inferior and a colossal failure, they reached the logical conclusion of their development potential decades ago.
Steve spray and Trevor nation brilliant watching them on the JPS nortons
What a belter of a bike 🏍️💨💯💯👌🏻
Why is that shock not tucked low and inside with a rising rate linkage on it? Bloody daft to use that configuration.
Because BC don't do linkages, and weight reduction.
Because all the vast experiments that Chrighton and his team did from the early days showed the rising rate linkage system to be far worse for rear end control than a conventional twin or single shock directly attached to the swingarm. The championship winning Duckhams bikes all had twin shock suspension.
@@howardosborne8647 Sorry but that is bad research. The rising rate gives you more appropriate control throughout the shock's stroke. If you add a complex multi-stage spring and valving setup (which adds bulk and weight) then you don't need rising rate. Otherwise you do.
No such thing as bad research just because it doesn’t line up with your theory.
More beautiful than anything from the big boys
Please put one of these engines in a super kart 🤠 Would be nuts having 20-30 karts racing on a full size circuit with 200hp at the wheels 🤙
Utter madness… can we watch?
Spondon Rotory, Yess please
I guess most people don't care, but the cloud of smoke would annoy me. Does it go away? A shot of it running without the cloud would have been awesome.
Apparently It does dissipate once the engine has warmed up, but we didn't have time to do that.
they only smoke a little when cold just after initial start up.
Cant wait for a triple rotor turbo 🤘
I believe they were intially sold for around 95000 GBP. And that is not a ridiculous price for a motorcycle? From a manufacturer no one had ever heard from? Who is kidding who? This world has gone completely mad!
@carsyoungtimerfreak1149 you try and buy any new race bike and see how much it costs.
People said that about Lamborghini at one point. He’s probably still losing money.
Crichton is an engineering legend...if I had a spare £95k,I would throw it on his table for one of those...only the clueless haven't heard of him...he deserves a MBE for services to engineering!
Interesting concept and execution… poor application considering the excessive oil consumption and the near complete lack of low/mid range torque that plague all Rotary engines ….that is unless you rev the snot out of it which you never see in any videos concerning this motorcycle…hmmmmm???
Well you can put turbo on rotor engine to get some torque but this will be much more complicated application.
These rotary motors of the Crighton design have never suffered from poor low or mid range torque. It is a fallacy that these Rotron or the previous Chrighton Norton bikes were gutless or peaky.
Also the 'excess oil consumption' you refer to is really quite minimal in reality.
I once rode one of the original Norton rotary bikes. The torque delivery was amazing, just like a huge electric motor.
@philhawley1219 Was that a Norton F1?
Well you have obviously never ridden a rotary engine. The power is linear all the way through the rev range. I've only rode a Norton Rotary water cooled engine and that had no engine oil usage couldn't comment on the car engines. It does use 2-stroke engine oil in the fuel by design.
will this bike start a revolution?
10500 of them, every minute!
Many "keyboard" experts on here...........LOL
What an amazing machine & one of passion..... Full credit to Brian for all the effort in making this a reality
Goes with the territory unfortunately. Glad you appreciate the efforts
I would most likely buy one if it cost like a BMW S1krr or a Ducati V4 around 20k Euros! But not 120k Euros.....
Apples to oranges
Its a bargain compared to MV Agustas and top of the range GP bikes.
I so wish I could afford that bike..
Why so much smoke though?
It burns fuel/oil mixture
Wouldnt that be a nice ad: CR700W, ‘its f-ing fast!’ 😂😂😂
This machine is a masterpiece. A Wankel freak myself. Same class as that 575 2T built in Switzerland. Just can't get on the guys name. Builds schassis for moto 2.
@4:12: More vacuum, more power, more cooling, and then the sound of more methane.
What makes it special is Guy Martin rode it and loves it!
Only 96 subscribers??? ..... having watched THIS, I'm really not surprised! You neglected to ask him why the wheels are round?
I want 1 ,I reckon it's got potential too kik arse.
Here I've been throwing about the idea of making a single rotor version of this with half a Renesis or 13B,..
Let us know how you get on
I want one of those motors for my shifter kart….
If you do that, let us know because that would be something to see!
If we did some videos on karts would you be interested?
Why did it generate so much white smoke? Must be suffering from oil burn 🔥, like all rotary motors.
Because that’s what rotary’s do. If own doesn’t do it it’s fucked.
The world thinks were advanced and that consumers can buy the best cutting edge tech/machinery/vehicles. But we have what we have because of regulations, not because its the best.
Rotarys and 2 strokes are 2 engine configurations that are far superior for performance applications but have been written off by major manufacturers.
Great but chain driven.......so I understand the Dunlop F1 was shaft driven but was subject to failure as the only weakness - surely worth a second look ??
As far as I can find, all the Norton rotary race bikes, and the F1 road bike, were chain drive, or are you thinking about something else?
@@TheRaceBay They were indeed all chain driven.
Don't know of any 5 cylinder production bikes ??
Fantastic design, but I don't believe reliability and emissions wise they'll be able to make it work?
Obsolete technology, Brian is attempting to get rich selling off his supplies of old stock Norton parts...
And your point is?
When I win the lottery I'm buying 9 of these...
Cant wait for the 600 bhp turbo version.
The question.. How many gallons per mile uhh.. Sorry miles per gallon does it make?😊
💯 % 🇬🇧 👌👍
Make a 3 rotor version...
Torque curve on the wankel is wild.
Where can i see it
Most of Respect. Every time i think, the Rotary or Wankel engines are History, there are some new ones. Also Mazda surprises some weeks ago with a new fascinating Wankel.
Ah yes, the range extender system?
Yes. An intellegent system. Very interesting to me . . . . . !
Mazda canceled the range extender
The 35 kW/h battery with the range extender and I go to the dealer and buy one.
@@schraddel6571 The MX-30 was a huge flop... Mazda has announced that it will discontinue the model
If you save a whole lot of space why would you need to keep all that fuel at the top of bike?
Might help with the balance?
@@zacharyradford5552 it would slow the transition from side to side thats for sure maybe in road racing you want some weight up high. I always though the lower the center of gravity the better but I also dont race road bikes.
MotoGP only for Italian. They won't let this beast enter their playground. CHICKEN
220 HP ?!!!!!
I’ll take two please !
One for each foot?
@@TheRaceBayno dude, one for each humongous BALL! Obviously... 😂