The $50 Vintage Snare Drum That ROCKS (And The Best Brand You've Never Heard)

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    Premier Drums is a brand from England that most folks in the United States haven't heard of. They might not have been as popular as Ludwig Drums, Slingerland Drums, or anything from Camco, Rogers, or the other manufacturers of the day. Still, they made instruments that were just as good (and sometimes even better) than their American counterparts.
    Today, I'm joined by drummer and music journalist extraordinaire Sahan Jayasuriya. Sahan challenges me to get this 50 dollar snare to sound good with just 15 minutes to switch out both heads and the wires. I think I did a good job. What about you?
    Later, we'll talk about a 100 dollar snare drum option that I found online too. It's a 60 dollar snare drum that I paid 40 bucks for shipping with from a used shop down south. And with a new batter head, I made this other Premier snare sound phenomenal.
    And if you stick around long enough, you're going to learn all about this brand, see and hear a bunch of their coolest (and wildest products), and hopefully you'll walk away wanting to find a deal on something as cool as this stuff too!
    Drum audio was captured with two Universal Audio Apollo x8p interfaces using 1073 preamp modeling.
    Mics include:
    - SE Electronics V-Kick (Kick In)
    - Dr. Alien Smith Alien8 (Kick Out)
    - Shure Unidyne III SM57 (Snare Top) - Rode NT55 w/ Cardioid Capsule (Snare Top)
    - Audio-Technica ATM650 (Snare Bottom)
    - Sennheiser MD-421 (Each Tom)
    - AKG C414 TLII Pair (Overheads)
    - Apex 210B Ribbon into Soyuz Launcher (Room)
    - Shure 588SB (Vocal)
    I use Logic Pro X, Waves Audio plugins, and I believe that all drums are good drums (even roto toms).
    Oh, and that cool mic cable? It comes from Sorry Cables in LA. - www.sorrycables.com/
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  • @meekoloco
    @meekoloco 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Don’t tell anyone, but I’m a huge fan of vintage Premier snares, particularly the Super Ace! Shhhhhhhh.

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      hahaha Yes! I love that 14x4 Ace snare they did for a while too. That company made some really cool stuff over the decades!!

    • @meekoloco
      @meekoloco 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@timbofromkeno Indeed they did! Fun video mate!

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@meekoloco Thanks dude!!

    • @papalegba6796
      @papalegba6796 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Hi Fi models are better than super ace, especially if you can find a mahogany shell in natural finish. Super ace strainer nothing but trouble imo. The 1035 & 1036 also good, but the best value now are the 1025 & 1026: basically a steel shell supraphonic but with better strainer, hardware, chrome, & only 8 lugs so a more open tone. You can find mint examples in the UK for under £100, bargain.

  • @keeanmansour2790
    @keeanmansour2790 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    That bit about fewer wires is a SPICY tip.

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Like a fine habanero pepper! hahaha

  • @StuartJrBarrett
    @StuartJrBarrett 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Doesn’t matter what snare you use, your sound KILLS!!!!!!!! Those room mics SING!!!!!!!

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Man, thank you. I really appreciate it! It's only taken me 20 years to figure out what I'm doin'. 🤣

  • @davidwinthrop7077
    @davidwinthrop7077 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Blondies Clem Burke played Premier drums for years and they looked and sounded fantastic. His red sparkle one up two down with the massive 14x10 flat angled rack tom from the late 70s was my dream kit as a teenager!

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I didn't realize he was a Premier guy! That's pretty wild. I can only imagine how epic that big kit was back in the day!

  • @user-cm2mp9nv8n
    @user-cm2mp9nv8n 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The premier set sounded the best out of all of the kits i would never use a small snare ,but that snare probably sounded the best out of all the snares , unbelievable 💛🧡❤️💜💛🧡❤️🌞🌜🌟🌎🙏🌼🌸🌳🌴☺️

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad you dig the video. 🙏🙏🙏

  • @tommyhiler8969
    @tommyhiler8969 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have a premier xpk fusion set from 99. Still love it, still sounds great. Premier as a company had issues with staying in business throughout it's history. That inconsistency is probably why, especially in America, we dont hear much about those drums.

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Possibly! Though, I’m glad brands like British Drum Co. are rising in popularity. I hear nothing but good things about that stuff!

  • @joshuavonkampen9493
    @joshuavonkampen9493 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have the same Olympic. Got to keep it and my Acrolite from my high school after spending the summer cleaning them up, only for the director to pull together some major equipment upgrades. Because she figured I'd take good care of them after that, they're my two never-sell drums. I've modified them both with new tension rods, new strainers, new dampeners... But at their core, they're two heavily neglected school drums I brought back to life and will always love. They play great, record well, and bring joy.

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Such a great story, Josh. That’s amazing. I think you’ve got a couple killer snares on your hands!

  • @Unicorns8myPoo
    @Unicorns8myPoo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Godspeed you little rascal. The best content in the drumming world ❤🔥

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      lol Thanks unicorn dude. I appreciate it!!

  • @adsph
    @adsph 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Really enjoying reviews and content like this. I always learn something. Crazy how you can take a $50 snare and make it awesome. Great work Tim !

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Once you get your drums back from Derek, I'll have to come over and get them tuned up for ya. I'll bet they'll sound like a million bucks too! Thanks for the kind words, Chris. And have a great weekend!!

    • @adsph
      @adsph 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@timbofromkeno I would be honored to have you come by the house. Contacting Derek next week so we can talk about the project further. Have a good weekend too.

  • @bobbyddrums1566
    @bobbyddrums1566 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the premiers a good drum its no issue making them sound killer, i have the snare to the blue bopper and own 7 different kits from the 50s to 2000s ,love em all , alot of drummers are ignorant to these kits

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s a serious collection! And I totally agree that folks just don’t think about this brand. It’s worth giving ‘em a smack! 😂❤️👊

  • @drumdiscussion7776
    @drumdiscussion7776 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You guys are so informative and entertaining. Keep going !

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks y'all. I really appreciate it!

  • @roadrocket7
    @roadrocket7 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Remember when Gretsch came out with the 42 strand snare wires, which Tony Willisms endorsed? He had them tightened pretty loosely to get his signature sound. He and everybody else found out that using more than 12 to 14 strands choked the drum. Hence, that loose "wet" snare sound he became noted for. Joe Morello and Buddy Rich had the best snare tone(s). Tight and crisp without sounding choked or muffled. Wide open. You never saw any tape or external muffling on any of the Jazz greats.

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love the tones from so many of those old jazz dudes - so good!

  • @cellularnelson
    @cellularnelson 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have the exact same Premier kit, with a matching blue sparkle Royal Ace snare. By far my fave brand!

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They make some really cool stuff for sure!

  • @roadrocket7
    @roadrocket7 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have that same Premier snare. Came with Puresound snare wires. I like it for the most part but the snare throw-off sucks. May switch it out with a Ludwig P90 snare throw off. Overall, you gotta tweak these snares to make everything right, which is the norm.

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, old drums are gonna be old drums. lol If I could recommend a throw off, check out the Inde Drum Co. stuff. It’s fantastic!

  • @knowntalmbout
    @knowntalmbout 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Agreed you def can’t get rid of the fizzy fizz of a 42 strand. They be making my toms buzz tooooooo much.

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      100%. If a snare drum isn't giving you all the buzz you need with 20 strand wires, it's either a tuning issue or the drum is just garbage. 🤣

  • @rborawski
    @rborawski 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Killer wrap on that kit, now I got imaginations going, thanks Timbo 😩

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LOL You've got enough drums!!

    • @rborawski
      @rborawski 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@timbofromkeno If I have enough then what is the amount you own? More than enought??

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rborawski Exactly!! 😂😂😂

  • @NJB183
    @NJB183 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The first kit I bought for myself (after learning for a while on a borrowed Pearl export poplar shell kit) was a Premier Artist birch, among the last of the Premier drums made in England. The whole kit is in piano black. 10x8, 12x9, 14x14 and 16x16, 22x18 kick, matching 14x5.5 snare; so brilliantly versatile sizes (except for the kick, that is what it is).
    It always sounded so much better than similarly priced kits. I still have it today, just not used as much as it deserves to be.

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's so funny because I used to have one of those kits too! Mine was in white marine pearl finish, and it was in HUGE sizes - 26x16, 13x9, 16x16, 18x16. And I picked it up for like 500 bucks or something. It was amazing for the money. Wish I'd kept that thing!

    • @NJB183
      @NJB183 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@timbofromkeno sometimes there’s such regret over the drums we part with. I sold my Recording Custom (the rare turquoise colour from the 90’s, also seen on the Maple Custom s w/gold square lugs, not the absolute lugs), that was near the end of 22, so it’s been long enough for me to really miss is and kinda regret the sale.
      It went to a mate who’s always dreamed of owning the legend that is the Recording Custom, so it’s in good hands. Ultimately I just couldn’t live with the sizes, needed a 14” floor or an 18” floor to complete it (to suit how I like my kits setup, either 12-14-16, or 13-16-18) and in 15 years never once saw another turquoise Recording custom kit in that colour, let alone an orphan floor Tom.
      I regret selling it, but its new owner will play it a hell of a lot more than I would have.
      I’ve been favouring my Starclassic birch/bubinga kit for a long time now, they really sound amazing. Birch attack/punch with a much warmer overall tone, somewhat deeper than expected because of those bubinga plies. I regret not buying a bubinga shell Starclassic while I still could, but they were fairly pricey and I love the attack the birch plies add to the drum. The woods really compliment each other.
      Marine Pearl is such a classic finish, and in those sizes, would have looked amazing, right out of the 70’s. Must have been fun to play. At the price you paid you really couldn’t go wrong.

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NJB183 Man, I can only imagine how cool that RC kit was. I have a hot red 22-12-13-16 in hot red, and I love that thing. Great sounding drums. But that newer Tama BB stuff sounds great too! And funny enough, I wish I'd bought a full bubinga kit too. Had the opportunity to get one with cordia finish, and I still kick myself for not buying that. LOL

  • @johnrobertcorney
    @johnrobertcorney 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kimbo from Teno Man about town. Great video, appreciate the hot take on the working person approach to snareism. Love the sound of that Premiere but hate the sound of slotted tuning lugs(?) Do you think it’s because they drive on the wrong side of the road? Thanks for the fun vid!

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Kimbo From Teno!! 🤣
      Thanks for the kind words. And I have no idea why they went with slotted rods over the already popular square head design. I'm sure some engineer somewhere thought it was a good idea for a good reason, but I'm glad that element didn't carry on much past that time (minus what Sonor was doing in Germany). lol

  • @johnbmailer
    @johnbmailer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My first drum was a Premier Olympic. My dad picked it up from a pawn shop back in the early 90s with the case and stand for $40. I still have it. I guess I need to dust it off!

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You totally should. I think you'd dig it. And if you have questions about tuning or head selection or anything else, don't hesitate to shoot me an email!

  • @BenjaminGib
    @BenjaminGib 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    SLOTTED FLAT HEAD TENSION RODS!! Dudes, this video ROCKS. I regret every day I sold my beginner band acrolite and bells set in the mid 90s, with cases!

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the kind words, Benjamin! I totally get it with the Acrolite. There are a hundred drums I wish I would've kept at this point. lol On the bright side, there are still affordable gems out there like these few Premiers!

  • @Garagedrummer
    @Garagedrummer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is the next video ready? I can’t get enough!!!!

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hahaha JD! Man, I was working on this literally until an hour before I normally publish today. Lots of work to do this stuff, but I'm glad folks like you enjoy it. More to come!

  • @Garagedrummer
    @Garagedrummer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oh yeah, don’t sleep on cheap steel drums. I’ve got a supralite that cost me $100 used that KILLS!

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      DUDE - Those are super underrated. I keep looking for the 14x4 model. Hard to find, and I understand why. They're THAT good!

  • @xgreco
    @xgreco 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have an old Premier birch pre67 Ringo drumset and the toms are in cm not inches. Remo makes special drumheads for those odd sized drums. Are those Premier toms pre-Intrernational sizes?

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Those pre-international metric toms are an interesting part of drum history, but they’re expensive to maintain heads-wise for sure.
      Thank goodness, the kit in this video takes standard heads!

    • @xgreco
      @xgreco 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True dat. I got some heads some years ago from the UK.

  • @chrisfreeman4957
    @chrisfreeman4957 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting....I have this same snare and have never set it up. Just might now.

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You should definitely try it out!!

  • @papalegba6796
    @papalegba6796 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Premier mahogany shells are awesome for jazz/acoustic. Most slept on drums around, you'd have to pay thousands for similar quality custom shells.

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I totally agree with you. I just gifted one of the old three-ply mahogany drums to a friend the other day, and it'll go up against any similar American three-ply drum any day (and the Premier is half the price or less).

    • @papalegba6796
      @papalegba6796 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@timbofromkeno premier used a very high grade of mahogany, as a lot of the best timber came from British empire colonies, plus their craftsmen were excellent. Their cast hoops are unique too, give a tight sound without choking. They used to be cheap as chips here in the UK but collectors are getting wise to them so the prices are going up, sadly.

    • @shagherwell
      @shagherwell 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@timbofromkenohi! A vintage Premier drums UBER passionate here 😊
      I was wondering: what batter/resonant heads are mounted on that 14x8 tom?
      It sounds truly amazing! Thanks a lot for this beautiful video

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@shagherwell Thanks dude! In think the bottom might’ve been the stock head, and the top was a Remo Ambassador, likely from the late 70s!

  • @ColinWilliamsDrums
    @ColinWilliamsDrums 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loved the Aquamarine Sparkle at the end!

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Isn’t that finish something else??

    • @ColinWilliamsDrums
      @ColinWilliamsDrums 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@timbofromkeno absolutely it is!

  • @dacolino84
    @dacolino84 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Premier drums are excellent and generally overlooked. I picked up a 2010's latest iteration of the genista line kit back in december 2021...I believe my kit is circa 2014ish..."rock" maple kit 1up 2dn leg mount floor toms. It's a laquer orange sparkle kit...It sounds amazing and the fit and finish is excellent, and the hardware is great. It got me into the brand and in doing a bit of research I found in some applications like the genista line the shells are undersized for better head contact/fitment. Also, they made their own heads and had their own metric head sizing. The unique lugs your kit had is surely pre mid 70's...The brand literally made all of their own stuff and adapted to standard drum lugs & head sizing later on (I think mid 70's ish but not totally sure). Great content, good deals are still to be found, just have to use alternate brands as the "cool" stuff gets more and more expensive.

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the comment! I really dig just about anything Premier I come across, with the exception of the metric drums of the early 60s. They're an interesting part of history, but at least in the United States, finding heads is a pretty difficult task. Remo will produce them, but even five years ago, they were $50+ a piece.
      And yeah, on that first snare in the video, the slotted tension rods definitely seem to put this far back into the 60s, which is pretty neat!
      Those Genistas you have are phenomenal drums. They're built rock solid. And I've seen kits similar to your's. I love that orange sparkle lacquer finish they did. It's super slick!

    • @cachebangwallop3482
      @cachebangwallop3482 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Slotted tension rods were used up until the very late 70s. Quite apart from being the worst lugs ever (!) the beautiful turned versions are a work of art and can be turned using a coin in an emergency! I love them. Your Olympic snare has lugs that date from the mid 70s, so that’s where I would date that drum.

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cachebangwallop3482 Super helpful information. Thanks so much!!

  • @af7119
    @af7119 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love Bonzoleum! Love to see you guys in a video with him!

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would LOVE that. I need to call that dude and catch up with him!

  • @shawnsdrumcave
    @shawnsdrumcave 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I had one of those Olympic snares. They are definitely a good quality drum! They literally don't make them like they use too. That green sparkle Ludwig though 😍 tell us more, tell us more! Lol
    I have a heavy rock 9 as well, strange but killer drum imo! Great video Tim!

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Man, you have so many toys! hahaha I love that Heavy Rock 9. I almost bought one about 12, 13 years ago. Super fun drums.
      And that green kit is a fun little project from this year! I've wanted a 20-12-14 3-ply clear maple interior Ludwig kit for ages, so I finally found the singles to do it. There was a floor tom at the drum show this year. And I found a 12 on eBay. And then a guy I know in California had a legit 20" kick that wasn't drilled for a center post, so I had to get that too.
      Derek at MKE Drum Co. refinished the shells in Jammin' Sam Green Sparkle (because it's just such a good finish). And he also cleaned up the edges, while maintaining their original profile, and he cleaned up all the hardware too. They're also super, super fun drums to play. Keep an eye out for the full story on that soon!

  • @timm1139
    @timm1139 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A Premier snare was my first snare way back when. I probably played hundreds of songs on it.

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In the Midwest (US), we think of Ludwigs and Slingerlands as the drums that so many kids grew up with. It’s been a pretty interesting surprise to hear just how many folks grew up with these Premier snares!!

  • @TheGingerDrummer06
    @TheGingerDrummer06 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My drum teachers dad used to be endorsed by Premier he had a custom snare made for him thats really cool :D

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’ll bet that was SUPER cool!

    • @TheGingerDrummer06
      @TheGingerDrummer06 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@timbofromkeno yeah dude i think it was birch and quite a thicc ply

    • @spacepodstudio
      @spacepodstudio 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheGingerDrummer06 Sounds like a Premier project one, a killer snare.. Timbo you should try get one to test.

  • @jonathanrichard6881
    @jonathanrichard6881 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man Totally Killer!!!! Love it !!! Sounds so Good in my Studio esp. with some Reverb on the Bus !! Bonham All Day Long !!! Can you do some Zepplin would be Great !!!

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gotta love a little room or some verb on these things for sure. And I might have access to a 28” kick soon, so we’re for sure gonna get into some Bonham tones!

  • @madt0wn1
    @madt0wn1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Stop spreading the word on these things, you’re going to raise the prices.
    I picked up and early 90’s Genista 6-piece kit a few years back for $400. Kind of rare with the shorter depths on the toms. I’d put it up against a Recording Custom any day and probably win. Absolutely stellar drums.

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Man, I have no idea how you scored that Genista for so cheap. That is a SCREAMING deal. Good on ya.
      And I hope the prices don't go up, but I'm sure this brand has GOT to catch on one day. And until then, I'm gonna be buying these things up like crazy. hahaha

  • @PrinceAsmodeus
    @PrinceAsmodeus 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Steel snares are underrated. I have the Olympic version. $40. Sounds great.

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Total sleepers!!

  • @DannyGadish
    @DannyGadish 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That heavy rock 14x9 is fucking gorgeous

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Isn't that thing a stunner??

  • @Johnnodonoughue
    @Johnnodonoughue 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We get loads of old prems for next to nothing. Wish we'd have the old Ludwigs. Check out Beverly drums. Check out the Cosmic 21 snare. Beverly was bought out by Premier. A little bird said that the first ally 400s were actually cosmic 21 shells sent over to the states. But now its all about the British Drum Company, we're making the best drums in the world again 👌🏻

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey John! Man, I love the old Beverley lugs. I would love to have one of those kits some day. I'm hoping to get over to the UK Drum Show in 2024. Maybe someone will have a Cosmic 21 snare I can take home with me!
      And man, I just saw the CEO of British Drum Co. posting about the eighth anniversary of the company. Him and his crew make some fantastic drums. I'd love to get my hands on a set of those one day too. So so good!

    • @Johnnodonoughue
      @Johnnodonoughue 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Also if you get a vintage 400 where the chrome hasn't come off as much as it would have normally ... you just found an ally shell that was chromed by Beverly and rolls Royce in yourkshire 🙌🏻 when Premier bought Beverly, the shells that didn't "disappear" to the states they made there own aluminium snare, they called that the Premier 35. That's the one I've got.

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Johnnodonoughue That is so interesting. I had no clue about that part of history. Can you imagine shipping drum shells back and forth across the sea just to get plating? No one would dare make that move with shipping prices the way they are today. 🤣

    • @Johnnodonoughue
      @Johnnodonoughue 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@timbofromkeno if its in Liverpool and want somewhere to stay ill put you up, proppa English bed and breakfast style. If you fly in at Manchester I'll even pick you up and drop you off. I'm Manchester 2 mins away from the Airport 👍🏻 (I'm also only 10 minutes away from BDC's factory in Stockport) Liverpool is 30 mins. I've no problem being your Alfred for your trip. Hope you like tea 🤣. Offers always open 🤘🏻

    • @Johnnodonoughue
      @Johnnodonoughue 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@timbofromkeno th-cam.com/video/k1QgiDYMye4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=22bJuhqSfK8tVqFC 👌🏻

  • @XGATEXKEEPERX
    @XGATEXKEEPERX 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My opinion is this dude knows how to hit a drum. If you rim shot with gorilla strength just about anything with great tuning it’s going to sound great. That Olympic snare is probably going to sound like ass on our kits 😂

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol I appreciate the kind words. But honestly, I think if you tune the way I tune, you could definitely get a good sound out of this thing regardless of how hard you hit. I crank up the bottom head, get the wires to a decent tension, and then tune the top head medium to medium-high. If you can get that kind of funky pop out of the tone, then it'll sing at just about any dynamic level!

  • @jdion79
    @jdion79 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tim grew a beard in a matter of seconds. Whoa!

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's those magic eastern European genes! LOL

  • @gregwonhoff7161
    @gregwonhoff7161 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I loved your video and found it very interesting and fun. Favorite chip Doritos Sriracha.

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey Greg! Thanks for the kind words. More of this stuff to come. I hope you stick around. And I haven't actually had the sriracha Doritos, but I think I'm gonna have to run the store and find a bag now!
      There used to be a brand out of Ohio called Mikesells, and they have this incredible hot chip called Mikesell's Good N' Hot. I think they're out of production right now because the company changed hands, but when they're back, you should try a bag. They're amazing!

    • @gregwonhoff7161
      @gregwonhoff7161 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@timbofromkeno Timbo, thank you for the wonderful conversation. Those Doritos are pretty spicy, and they have another on called Salsa Verde, but they are harder to find.
      Don’t worry about me sticking around. I am hooked on your offerings, and again I thank you.

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@gregwonhoff7161 I'll find those some time too. Always down for a good chat. Have a great weekend, dude!

  • @llRoBoBinHoll
    @llRoBoBinHoll 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Where I’m from there’s a shitload of used premier drums for sale. In my opinion most of em sound like muddy thuddy crap. Probably has to do with the bearing edges on them. But I suppose it’d counteract the brightness of a steel drum somewhat.

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m curious where you’re from and what drums you’re trying out. Some of the Premier stuff is great, but head selection is so important. The other thing is that power toms (which Premier made a lot of) will almost always be thuddy. 😂😂

    • @roadrocket7
      @roadrocket7 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Resonator series from Premier (late 70s?) are the most rare and collectible. I heard Jazz legend Louis Hayes play a Premier Resonator kit at a drum clinic/concert in Memphis, circa 1980, and they just sang! Some of the best drums I've ever heard. Of course, being played by a master drummer didn't hurt. What was also really cool is that Mr. Hayes played a Zildjian "Rock 21" ride cymbal with 3 rivets. Best sounding ride I've ever heard in a live setting.

  • @JackNiles
    @JackNiles 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Shootout with a Supraphonic...

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Definitely different, but your standard music listener would just say they both sound like a drum! 😂😂

  • @sleepwhenimdead9667
    @sleepwhenimdead9667 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wine red!! 😂 My first kit was a wine red Gretsch Blackhawk from the 90’s. I played it for 10 years and always wondered why it wouldn’t tune…Until I discovered later that it’s basically plywood 😎

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I blame it on that terrible hue of red! 😂

    • @sleepwhenimdead9667
      @sleepwhenimdead9667 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@timbofromkeno That and the Superkick 2! Nothing wrong with muffled heads but my world changed when I took that off

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sleepwhenimdead9667 Funny enough, when I was filming the update with Sahan, I had just installed and tuned up a coated Super Kick II on his 20" 70s Ludwig kick. And it sounded fantastic!

    • @sleepwhenimdead9667
      @sleepwhenimdead9667 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@timbofromkeno That’s awesome! I’m sure it did!

    • @deaterk
      @deaterk 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sleepydeadguy - Most wood drums (other than a few types, namely solid and stave) are absolutely constructed of plywood! 😂. Cheers! 🇬🇧✌🏼

  • @paulpuerling9504
    @paulpuerling9504 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Old Dutch Onion and Garlic

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Onion and garlic chips are CRIMINALLY underrated. So so so so so so good.

  • @davewills94
    @davewills94 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sour cream & onion chip

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s the kind of chip my girlfriend buys because she knows I won’t eat them. 😂😂😂

  • @user-cm2mp9nv8n
    @user-cm2mp9nv8n 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Quality Premier drums are just as good as any Ludwig drums especially the 70Premier drums guys no disrespect you can't tell the difference between brass or steel drums is all down to tuning good drummers can make a wood snare sound like a metal snare vice verca .💛🧡❤️💜💛🧡❤️🌞🌜🌟🌎🙏🌼🌸🌳🌴☺️

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I respect your opinion! And I definitely agree that those old Premier Drums are phenomenal. 😁👊

  • @Ted_Swayinghill
    @Ted_Swayinghill 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I got my acrolite for FREE.99
    Paid $75 for my premier olympic snare too lol

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You’re a lucky dude!!

    • @Ted_Swayinghill
      @Ted_Swayinghill 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@timbofromkeno Perks of living a mile away from a drum shop!

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Ted_Swayinghill YES! 😂😂

  • @haroldbrooks4235
    @haroldbrooks4235 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did I miss the Before Sound? 😢😂

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think I did a before sound on these. lol I just wanted to show that these little cheap drums rock. I do have a clip of that wine red drum with the stock head on it if you're curious, though! Feel free to DM me on IG if you wanna give it a listen.

  • @morganrose6749
    @morganrose6749 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Omg sahan is so 😍

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The best of the best!

  • @NintenDub
    @NintenDub 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A snare is a snare is a snare ey?

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If the foundation is good, then it’s probably a keeper!

  • @leafyconcern
    @leafyconcern 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yo sahan!

  • @WyattBrown377
    @WyattBrown377 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    mmm pizza

  • @quintessenceSL
    @quintessenceSL 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Next- budget cymbals.

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's a really tough one, but I've got some ideas!

    • @knowntalmbout
      @knowntalmbout 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wuhan. And dream.

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@knowntalmbout That's very true. The only thing I don't like about those cymbals is their quality control is pretty rough. For every phenomenal cymbal you find, you're likely to find a counterpart that is equally terrible in the same model, size, and production run.

    • @knowntalmbout
      @knowntalmbout 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@timbofromkeno this issue is more prevalent in older, cheaper Wuhan cymbals. I personally only play dream cymbals on my main kits and wuhans on my practice kit. They’ll pass on a gig if needed. But like you said it’s kinda a toss up.

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@knowntalmbout I think if I could hit 100 of them in a store, I could definitely find a half dozen that I like. I just don't have a Dream dealer around here, which is a shame.
      I've been playing a lot of this Turkish Cymbals stuff lately, and I've got to say, it sounds just as good as the pricey Istanbul Agop stuff people are buying - and this stuff is WAY more economical. I might have a make a video just talking about that!

  • @JackNiles
    @JackNiles 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Beach🏖 is better than Birch

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Add a margarita and you’re good to go! 😂👊

  • @user-cm2mp9nv8n
    @user-cm2mp9nv8n 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Can drummers start making there bass drums sound like bass drums instead of horrible Simmons bass drums whats the point in having 24 or 26 bass drum and it sounding like a Simmons bass drum horrible,thin,and clicky whats the piont ❤️🧡💛💜❤️🧡💛🌞🌜🌟🌎🙏🌼🌸🌳🌴☺️

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      lol Fair! 😂😂

  • @cobovideo
    @cobovideo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    timestamps....great video otherwise

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, I’m still figuring out this whole TH-cam thing. Gimme a few years and I’ll have my stuff together. 😂😂😂

  • @user-cm2mp9nv8n
    @user-cm2mp9nv8n 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In what Century could you get an acrolight for 50bucks second hand those guys are talking like they were drummers in the fifties or sixtys wow if you could get a good Ludwig snare for 50 bucks lucky Americans ❤️🧡💛💜❤️🧡💛🌞🌜🌟🌎🙏🌼🌸🌳🌴☺️

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is definitely an American experience. Many of the baby boomers had schools FULL of Acrolites and often with a pile of Supraphonics too. They were beyond plentiful and so so cheap for a long time!

    • @tommyhiler8969
      @tommyhiler8969 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Tons of acrolites on ebay for $60 around 2011. Ive always wanted a 6.5 blacrolite, but those were pricier at the time. So I slept on 'em. Wish I hadn't.

    • @user-cm2mp9nv8n
      @user-cm2mp9nv8n 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In Britain anything from Ludwig secondhand is like gold dust only ever had a Ludwig Gold sparkle 4piece tryde to keep it but had to give it back to the store as it was only on loan ,wish I had money to buy it back then 35 years ago Thanks God Bless all you drummers out there AMEN💛🧡❤️💜💛🧡❤️🌞🌜🌟🌎🙏🌼🌸🌳🌴☺️

  • @PlasmicSteve
    @PlasmicSteve 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clip the mics to your shirt collars. That's what they're made for.

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lol I tried that and they sounded like garbage. We’re running on a shoestring budget over here, so I’m making due with what I got. 😂😂

  • @jaymeramirez7435
    @jaymeramirez7435 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My ears are broken. Cause I think all the videos you make… the snares sound very very similar. Both on my iPhone, tv and Beats. 🤦🏾‍♂️ don’t crucify me

    • @timbofromkeno
      @timbofromkeno  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      lol It's all good. And honestly, it's a fair shot. I use the same few snare heads. I tune most drums the same way. I hit them the same way with the same sticks under the same mics and mix them all the same way too.
      And in many cases, I think the message of this channel is that "drums sound like drums." If you know what you're doing, you can make anything you have sound great!