There are a lot of smooth brained jaded children that just can't appreciate what they were able to accomplish with this game on Standalone. I've been gaming since Atari so I can appreciate the early days of tech and this game should be a showcase. It's a technical marvel to have such large open areas with long clear and crisp draw distances. This game is a treat for anyone that owns a Quest 3 and isn't a dumb kid that thinks everything needs to look like God of War graphically to be great. This game looks fantastic for what it is able to achieve and they were able to do this so quickly. Great game. If you have it. Play it.
I agree, but I also agree that this graphical update seems pretty weak. I mean, I thought the game looked great already, so I guess I'm just confused by the lack of noticeable improvements. Power to them for making slight tweaks here and there, but if they're barely noticeable, why waste the money and man-power?
@@ninjabiatch101 Because the game got review bombed at release. The Great Sand Sea rocks and terrain is the parts that there isn’t a noticeable difference but other realms/objects and areas/interior look better. The most stunning parts of this game are not the outdoor areas
@@ninjabiatch101 yeah dawg. People pressed the devs into the extra res + 90hz option so it came oit within 2 weeks of release, I think you can find it with this guy’s last vid on AW2
@@ninjabiatch101 this is more likely the case, PCVR and PSVR2 people upset it's not on their system. in fact it's happening now with Batman Arkham Shadow.
The difference is subtle but totally noticeable. As you say, its not night and day difference. But its definitely noticeable. It makes the game more immersive and I will keep using it as the difference is noticeable enough that I am fine sticking at 72 hz.
Yeah even if they didn't improve the graphics by a ton I would rather play on PCVR and get a true 120fps out of the game with virtual desktop over the stutter mess on the quest 3
@@ViperVenoM13You’re gatekeeping, I get it. Unfortunately most VR games will be developed for “mobile” players going forward. There are even titles now that aren’t released for PCVR at all.
Definitely noticing texture improvements in your side by sides, particularly with rock and sand textures. Resolution hard to know - I use quest 3 optimiser which improves resolution anyway so probably no difference in this patch
I couldn't see a difference inside the headset. However I realised how much better 90Hz is compared to 72Hz. I always thought I'm immune to low framerates. Turns out I'm not.
Lol yeah I gotta say, seeing those pictures, I'm like ".....Okay?" I never thought the game looked particularly bad, but an improvement of this kind seems almost like wasted effort. Into The Radius' graphic improvement was nearly night and day, and I barely noticed. So this seems bordering on pointless.
Do you know how to get the heroics moves to work? I haven't been able to get any of them to work for any of the characters. I have 3 full charges, but no luck.
I just checked it and it is nothing to write home about. What a complete scam buying a Quest 3 for this when it is fundamentally a Quest 2 game with some minor tweaks. @@Taha-Aamamou
All rocket science aside, this update just did what using the Quest Games Optimizer did. Improved resolution and aliasing which removes jaggies and adds sharpness and clarity.
While the overall visual upgrade impact, especially when watched in a TH-cam video might be a bit lackluster compared side-by-side, the difference in texture resolution in particular is legitimately SUBSTANTIAL in many places, and most especially the core environment! 🤷 And honestly that was by FAR Asgard Wrath II's biggest graphical issue in its original Quest 2 iteration! Coming from the original, CRIMINALLY underplayed PCVR game wasn't actually a massive shift in terms of the game's overall visual scope & scale (which was RIDICULOUSLY impressive considering the Quest 2's [aka the base HW'] performance limitations!), but the texture fidelity was very obviously right from the jump DRAMATICALLY WORSE!!! And of course it was! 🤷 Asgard's Wrath went from running on PC's w/ >=16GB of system RAM AND >≈4GB of dedicated GPU VRAM to fill with RIDICULOUSLY high-res textures (you need >=16GB VRAM MINIMUM to max out the "Textures" setting, when the RTX 2080 Ti only had 11GB when it came out in 2019!), to running on a mere ≈5.3GB of unified RAM shared by both CPU AND GPU for the Quest >=2 exclusive sequel! Thus this graphics update actually goes a significant ways towards making that shift/comparison between the two games far less jarring/obviously apparent & significant, even if does notably less when compared directly to its Quest 2 version prior self! 🤷
I had this game with the Quest 3 but I don't really play on the standalone unit because of the bad graphics. But is it any good with the graphical upgrades or is it like all the other games ? Textures, how sharp and detailed are they compared to PCVR ? 1-10 ? Like if you maximize blade and sorcery in VD in Godlike mode with everything on max, how great do you think it is ?
Get quest games optimizer you can customize all of your graphics bc the quest only uses a fraction of its actual power . This game and ac nexus on max settings with optimizer is pretty mind blowing for a standalone headset
For Quest 3 it's sort of a refinement to what's already there. In graphical upgrades, this is probably the best we have seen so far from major releases. Apart from Q1 games got a massive boost as well, and I never tried into the radius on Quest only on PCVR. The textures are improved, but if you get close they'll look like mobile assets. Graphics compared to PC are still at the lowest end but resemble it with the resolution/framerate.
They would have to redesign the game for PC. This is “mobile” not just in terms of graphics. Most locations are glorified rectangular boxes (Egyptian architecture with its sharp angles was probably chosen for a reason). The vast expanses between those locations are just big open empty boring spaces, which artificially inflate the size of the game. It has superb controls and battle mechanics, but a graphics bump alone (lights, textures) won’t be enough for a pc release. AW1 was a lot more compact world-size-wise and it wasn’t open world, but each part had a lot more elaborate design than this one. You can’t easily add that to a port
Too bad they didnt improve the water shaders. Watterfalls all look like from dreamcast days. Cant help but think of Uncharted Golden Abyss on PS Vita that had some of the most beautifully rendered waters in a portable system and that was in 2012.
Quest 3 is still so limited on what it can do 8 gb of ram is not enough you only get 4.5 gb of it to use quest 2 to 6gb and you get to use only 3gb of ram lol
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I don't really care about the graphic enhancements, the game looked good as it was. What I really care about is performance, has the performance been improved? I remember during fights the game would stutter a bit, especially when fighting multiple enemies.
Even PC level looks like the quest games 2d graphics for some reason looks better than how you see it on the Quest. I think PSVR has better Vr rendering than the Quest does.
I think it's a big mistake by meta to make this sequel a standalone exclusive. I understand why they did it, but I still think they should've made a pc version that looks better than the first game. The entire vr community is still using HL alyx as a golden standard benchmark. Meta is the only company around that has the budget and vr interest to change that. If this game got that sort of hype, it could only be good for meta, and they would still sell loads of standalone versions of the game since most people don't have a beefy pc. But, I believe the potential hype from the pc community would be worth the investment in a pc version of the game.
They keep making faction quests part of the main game now, and I don't know how else to say this. But I am not a 100% completionist type. And I've beaten the game. No I don't have every weapon or armor set. But like...the story is over... I won man. Their world isn't "alive" enough for me to want to wander the desert finding silver cactus or whatever.
I agree with the world not feeling alive enough. Enemies, mobs, portals, and wildlife still spawning right in front of your eyes is sometimes immersion-breaking. You still have to go out of your way to discover things instead of just coming across them curiously.
We never see Console/PC quality on a mobile platform without VR Cloudrendering!!! ...I have no idea why people still think we have only to wait a few generations???😅 Only VR Cloudrender Service on mobile devices can do the job. Gaming PCs have 20-40x more GPU Power!
That's not True. The Chip inside Quest 3 can already Rival a Minimum-Spec PCVR Setup. That 20-40x Number is just Ridiculous. Even this Generation we will be getting Games that come very Close to PC and Console Levels of Visuals. We are only 1 Generation away. You clearly a not very informed on this Topic or how Games work and are developed.
@@DevVRAR 🤣😂🤣😂🤣. The Quest 3 has only ~2.4TFops! My 4 year old 3090 has 39,8 TFlops and a two year old 4090 ~84 TFlops. Next year we will see already a 5090 with around 120TFlops Sorry, but that's Day and Night or a comparison between an electrical Bike and a Tesla S. No one has ever compared his gaming PC with his smartphone! - Why people do this with their Quests??? That's nothing else than a fast smartphone. Modern Quest Games (AW2 or AC:Nexus) look like ~15+ year old PC Games!!! I'm 100% sure that the visual quality and level size of Far Cry (2004 ...20 years!!!!) is not possible on the Quest 3!
@@patfish3291 The Chip has 3.5 TFlops although That isn’t a good way to measure Performance at all. Using a 4090 as Comparison is also just RIDICULOUS😂 I can run Half Life Alyx on an 8 Year old Laptop with a 1060 in it without and That’s without any real optimization. You’re last Claim is also Ridiculous. Quest 3‘s Chip has more Power than even a PS4. WAY more modern Games can run on it. Even many VR ports from PC Games from ~2006 and even the 2010s have been modded to it.
Yes it's not a 100% accurate way to measure it, but it is the best way to show the difference (Day and Night) and there is no better way to measure something like that. Again. The Quest 3 can't produce the visuals (at this scale) of a 20 year old PC Game (FarCry). What the hack can make you believe that we are only one generation away from modern PC Graphics??? Mobile VR will look for ever 15 years behind PC-Graphics without VR Cloudrendering Services! The next Generation of Quest (not the Pro! The Quest 4 in 2026) will have max. 6-7TF and PCs 120TF - so nothing has and will change. HL:Alyx is already 4,5 years old! ...and my 3090 could have run it already in 2020 2x at the same time because Valve fakes so many effects by backing most into the textures. HL: Alyx could have looked already in 2020 way better on modern PC - But the focused on performance (a good idea in VR! ). PS: The Quest 3 doesn't use the max. of it's Chip! (Heart/Energie)
@@DevVRAR Again, the PS4 is already nearly 10 years old and was at its reales already far behind modern PCs. The PS4 Pro is over 7 years old and with 4,8TFlops noticeable faster than the Quest 3. Sorry, but your arguments don't get better :-(. I have a Quest 3! - But Im a realist and know (see) that it's a toy against my 4 year old PC :D
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There are a lot of smooth brained jaded children that just can't appreciate what they were able to accomplish with this game on Standalone. I've been gaming since Atari so I can appreciate the early days of tech and this game should be a showcase. It's a technical marvel to have such large open areas with long clear and crisp draw distances.
This game is a treat for anyone that owns a Quest 3 and isn't a dumb kid that thinks everything needs to look like God of War graphically to be great. This game looks fantastic for what it is able to achieve and they were able to do this so quickly.
Great game. If you have it. Play it.
I agree, but I also agree that this graphical update seems pretty weak.
I mean, I thought the game looked great already, so I guess I'm just confused by the lack of noticeable improvements.
Power to them for making slight tweaks here and there, but if they're barely noticeable, why waste the money and man-power?
@@ninjabiatch101 Because the game got review bombed at release. The Great Sand Sea rocks and terrain is the parts that there isn’t a noticeable difference but other realms/objects and areas/interior look better. The most stunning parts of this game are not the outdoor areas
@@EpicKewlYT For the graphics? I don't remember that. I just remember PCVR elitists who were butthurt that poor people got to play. XD
@@ninjabiatch101 yeah dawg. People pressed the devs into the extra res + 90hz option so it came oit within 2 weeks of release, I think you can find it with this guy’s last vid on AW2
@@ninjabiatch101 this is more likely the case, PCVR and PSVR2 people upset it's not on their system. in fact it's happening now with Batman Arkham Shadow.
The difference is subtle but totally noticeable. As you say, its not night and day difference. But its definitely noticeable. It makes the game more immersive and I will keep using it as the difference is noticeable enough that I am fine sticking at 72 hz.
Can’t lie I am surprised how you decided to switch your opinion on the gameplay. Good vid
I play this game all the time.. I love it! Gonna try the new enhancements TONIGHT!
Could be nice if they made a PCVR edition like the first in the series 😎🙏
Ikr instead of improving mobile graphics people that didn't experience the original pc game can't understand
Yeah even if they didn't improve the graphics by a ton I would rather play on PCVR and get a true 120fps out of the game with virtual desktop over the stutter mess on the quest 3
@@ViperVenoM13💯
@@ViperVenoM13You’re gatekeeping, I get it. Unfortunately most VR games will be developed for “mobile” players going forward. There are even titles now that aren’t released for PCVR at all.
@@zerovisdiver i'm aware of that thank you. And that's the problem with VR now.
Looks amazing for standalone. I will pick up a quest 4 and play it at 120 fps.
Definitely noticing texture improvements in your side by sides, particularly with rock and sand textures. Resolution hard to know - I use quest 3 optimiser which improves resolution anyway so probably no difference in this patch
Quest Game Optimizer Should Probably Receive Best Utility App 2024 It Worked Magic For The Q2 &Q3
i updated the asgard wrath 2 on quest 3 13gb but i dont see change.
Apply the graphics in the settings
@@EpicKewlYT i checked user interface and enhance graphics on
TBH i dont see much difference
It’s a lot of the little things. I think it’s great close up
@@EpicKewlYT well better on quest 3 and glas they did something.
@@supremepc6298 Same dawg.
I couldn't see a difference inside the headset. However I realised how much better 90Hz is compared to 72Hz. I always thought I'm immune to low framerates. Turns out I'm not.
Lol yeah I gotta say, seeing those pictures, I'm like ".....Okay?"
I never thought the game looked particularly bad, but an improvement of this kind seems almost like wasted effort.
Into The Radius' graphic improvement was nearly night and day, and I barely noticed. So this seems bordering on pointless.
i wouldve much fathers a shader update, like bloom for example and higher defined shadows
Bloom would have been a great addition
Do you know how to get the heroics moves to work? I haven't been able to get any of them to work for any of the characters. I have 3 full charges, but no luck.
It's the same.
I know right!? I've tried comparing between on/off and can't see a single difference
What do you expect it's only a resolution increase
In the headset it looks different. Ground textures and the interior areas are some of the biggest differences
wear your glasses kid and look again 🤓
I just checked it and it is nothing to write home about. What a complete scam buying a Quest 3 for this when it is fundamentally a Quest 2 game with some minor tweaks. @@Taha-Aamamou
All rocket science aside, this update just did what using the Quest Games Optimizer did. Improved resolution and aliasing which removes jaggies and adds sharpness and clarity.
Really great video, subbed!
Are they using the upscaler included in the snapdragon soc? I feel that the answer is no
Nice! I've been holding off from playing this game since launch. I guess it's time to finally jump in now.
Too
I can't get over the stuttering in this game. It gets so bad at times I just gave up playing it all together.
Not for me
I've never noticed any stutter
@@DarkReturns1 some people don’t notice it as much as others. Just like on 2D games. I hate how I notice the very slight hiccup in frame time on games
While the overall visual upgrade impact, especially when watched in a TH-cam video might be a bit lackluster compared side-by-side, the difference in texture resolution in particular is legitimately SUBSTANTIAL in many places, and most especially the core environment! 🤷 And honestly that was by FAR Asgard Wrath II's biggest graphical issue in its original Quest 2 iteration!
Coming from the original, CRIMINALLY underplayed PCVR game wasn't actually a massive shift in terms of the game's overall visual scope & scale (which was RIDICULOUSLY impressive considering the Quest 2's [aka the base HW'] performance limitations!), but the texture fidelity was very obviously right from the jump DRAMATICALLY WORSE!!!
And of course it was! 🤷 Asgard's Wrath went from running on PC's w/ >=16GB of system RAM AND >≈4GB of dedicated GPU VRAM to fill with RIDICULOUSLY high-res textures (you need >=16GB VRAM MINIMUM to max out the "Textures" setting, when the RTX 2080 Ti only had 11GB when it came out in 2019!), to running on a mere ≈5.3GB of unified RAM shared by both CPU AND GPU for the Quest >=2 exclusive sequel!
Thus this graphics update actually goes a significant ways towards making that shift/comparison between the two games far less jarring/obviously apparent & significant, even if does notably less when compared directly to its Quest 2 version prior self! 🤷
I had this game with the Quest 3 but I don't really play on the standalone unit because of the bad graphics.
But is it any good with the graphical upgrades or is it like all the other games ?
Textures, how sharp and detailed are they compared to PCVR ? 1-10 ?
Like if you maximize blade and sorcery in VD in Godlike mode with everything on max, how great do you think it is ?
Get quest games optimizer you can customize all of your graphics bc the quest only uses a fraction of its actual power . This game and ac nexus on max settings with optimizer is pretty mind blowing for a standalone headset
For Quest 3 it's sort of a refinement to what's already there. In graphical upgrades, this is probably the best we have seen so far from major releases. Apart from Q1 games got a massive boost as well, and I never tried into the radius on Quest only on PCVR.
The textures are improved, but if you get close they'll look like mobile assets. Graphics compared to PC are still at the lowest end but resemble it with the resolution/framerate.
They would have to redesign the game for PC. This is “mobile” not just in terms of graphics. Most locations are glorified rectangular boxes (Egyptian architecture with its sharp angles was probably chosen for a reason). The vast expanses between those locations are just big open empty boring spaces, which artificially inflate the size of the game. It has superb controls and battle mechanics, but a graphics bump alone (lights, textures) won’t be enough for a pc release. AW1 was a lot more compact world-size-wise and it wasn’t open world, but each part had a lot more elaborate design than this one. You can’t easily add that to a port
Too bad they didnt improve the water shaders. Watterfalls all look like from dreamcast days. Cant help but think of Uncharted Golden Abyss on PS Vita that had some of the most beautifully rendered waters in a portable system and that was in 2012.
Didn’t know it got updated. I was thinking it looked better
Quest 3 is still so limited on what it can do 8 gb of ram is not enough you only get 4.5 gb of it to use quest 2 to 6gb and you get to use only 3gb of ram lol
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I don't really care about the graphic enhancements, the game looked good as it was. What I really care about is performance, has the performance been improved? I remember during fights the game would stutter a bit, especially when fighting multiple enemies.
The performance is more of the same. Engaging in situations where there is multiple enemies you can certainly feel the framerate chug along.
This game already looked fk great 👍 so wtf..Thanks for the hardwork team , but you already made one of the best quest 3 games period
Graphics are amazing
Absolutely, only other game surpasses it is Red Matter 2.
Even PC level looks like the quest games 2d graphics for some reason looks better than how you see it on the Quest. I think PSVR has better Vr rendering than the Quest does.
it is already released?
Yes
The floors look better way better
Definitely, the sand looks more...c r i s p
@@sixtacos its also an entirely different texture?
This game looks amazing on my quest 3, I highly recommend pushing through the boring puzzles, game gets amazing, one of my favorite of all time
i"m surprised that it doesn't use ASW? weird
Same, kind of expected this game to use AppSW since Assassins Creed Nexus opted to have it on by default
Fov reddering and ai upscaling will change the game for quest 4
I think it's a big mistake by meta to make this sequel a standalone exclusive. I understand why they did it, but I still think they should've made a pc version that looks better than the first game. The entire vr community is still using HL alyx as a golden standard benchmark. Meta is the only company around that has the budget and vr interest to change that. If this game got that sort of hype, it could only be good for meta, and they would still sell loads of standalone versions of the game since most people don't have a beefy pc. But, I believe the potential hype from the pc community would be worth the investment in a pc version of the game.
I think we should wait until Batman Arkham VR and Alien VR to see the limits of standalone VR.
The differences in the game it seems isn't night and day.
AW2 still the best VR game for me
They keep making faction quests part of the main game now, and I don't know how else to say this.
But I am not a 100% completionist type. And I've beaten the game.
No I don't have every weapon or armor set. But like...the story is over... I won man. Their world isn't "alive" enough for me to want to wander the desert finding silver cactus or whatever.
I agree with the world not feeling alive enough. Enemies, mobs, portals, and wildlife still spawning right in front of your eyes is sometimes immersion-breaking. You still have to go out of your way to discover things instead of just coming across them curiously.
Guess ill enjoy mu quest 2 and wait on the quest 4
Probably the worst Quest 3 update ever so far, very disappointed. Still a great game but this update should have been so much more
What about Arizona 2? Night and day difference huh? /s
We never see Console/PC quality on a mobile platform without VR Cloudrendering!!! ...I have no idea why people still think we have only to wait a few generations???😅 Only VR Cloudrender Service on mobile devices can do the job. Gaming PCs have 20-40x more GPU Power!
That's not True.
The Chip inside Quest 3 can already Rival a Minimum-Spec PCVR Setup.
That 20-40x Number is just Ridiculous. Even this Generation we will be getting Games that come very Close to PC and Console Levels of Visuals.
We are only 1 Generation away.
You clearly a not very informed on this Topic or how Games work and are developed.
@@DevVRAR 🤣😂🤣😂🤣.
The Quest 3 has only ~2.4TFops!
My 4 year old 3090 has 39,8 TFlops and a two year old 4090 ~84 TFlops. Next year we will see already a 5090 with around 120TFlops
Sorry, but that's Day and Night or a comparison between an electrical Bike and a Tesla S. No one has ever compared his gaming PC with his smartphone! - Why people do this with their Quests??? That's nothing else than a fast smartphone.
Modern Quest Games (AW2 or AC:Nexus) look like ~15+ year old PC Games!!!
I'm 100% sure that the visual quality and level size of Far Cry (2004 ...20 years!!!!) is not possible on the Quest 3!
@@patfish3291 The Chip has 3.5 TFlops although That isn’t a good way to measure Performance at all.
Using a 4090 as Comparison is also just RIDICULOUS😂
I can run Half Life Alyx on an 8 Year old Laptop with a 1060 in it without and That’s without any real optimization.
You’re last Claim is also Ridiculous. Quest 3‘s Chip has more Power than even a PS4. WAY more modern Games can run on it.
Even many VR ports from PC Games from ~2006 and even the 2010s have been modded to it.
Yes it's not a 100% accurate way to measure it, but it is the best way to show the difference (Day and Night) and there is no better way to measure something like that.
Again. The Quest 3 can't produce the visuals (at this scale) of a 20 year old PC Game (FarCry). What the hack can make you believe that we are only one generation away from modern PC Graphics??? Mobile VR will look for ever 15 years behind PC-Graphics without VR Cloudrendering Services!
The next Generation of Quest (not the Pro! The Quest 4 in 2026) will have max. 6-7TF and PCs 120TF - so nothing has and will change.
HL:Alyx is already 4,5 years old! ...and my 3090 could have run it already in 2020 2x at the same time because Valve fakes so many effects by backing most into the textures. HL: Alyx could have looked already in 2020 way better on modern PC - But the focused on performance (a good idea in VR! ).
PS: The Quest 3 doesn't use the max. of it's Chip! (Heart/Energie)
@@DevVRAR Again, the PS4 is already nearly 10 years old and was at its reales already far behind modern PCs. The PS4 Pro is over 7 years old and with 4,8TFlops noticeable faster than the Quest 3.
Sorry, but your arguments don't get better :-(.
I have a Quest 3! - But Im a realist and know (see) that it's a toy against my 4 year old PC :D
The update doesn’t really look much different than before & the frame rate is terrible. I got bored around hour 3.
The game is rather slow at the start, but once you enter other chapters within the game it gets fun.
No point on quest 3 to have any texture pass 256 maybe 512 memory pool will be eaten up alot of vr games stutter so bad
Standalone in VR is bla
bla...bland?