META QUEST 3: The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ต.ค. 2023
- Hello.
I finally got my hands on the Meta Quest 3; Since the Quest 2's launch 3 years ago, the headset has become not only the most recognizable and popular headset of all time, but it's become practically THE standard for VR.
It's done an incredible job. Does its successor live up to the legacy left by the Quest 2? Well... maybe. If you have deeper pockets.
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The Quest 3 is a beast. There are a few things that hold it back from being perfect though. Meta surprisingly actually sent a headset but I already bought one (actually two...) for the review, so I'll be giving it away on my discord this month. Join up: discord.gg/thrill
Nice, if im right, the shipping of the byfrost vr gloves are being shipped. Cant wait until i see a review from that!!!!
Btw love your vids!!!!! :D
I got my quest 3 today
One of the things that I wish wasn’t true but is, is that the developers of Blade and Sorcery Nomad said their not gonna release a updated quest 3 version which is super upsetting to me. I love Blade and Sorcery and wish for just better graphics. Really upsetting point for me
Thank you
VR is dead. No good games
This will be my first VR headset. Supposed to arrive in 5-6 days. I am excited like a 10 year old on christmas.
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Guys trust me get a proper headstrap. Bobo ones are really good and affordable.
Yes and make sure you get extra extra batteries for that head strap.... like 3 of them or four if you can afford it, I gotta put in order to today for two more extra batteries
Your first headset? Well dang, welcome to vr!
A lot of people have lists of games, whether you're into physical exercise, puzzles, shooters, a few platformers, that new co-op dungeon crawler looked pretty awesome!
I'll always recommend Blade&Sorcery, the pcvr version if you can.
Just to give you a heads up, if you get motion sick, don’t give up on vr, you’ll get used to it.
I’m getting the impression that the more comfortable a headset is, the more a user is going to be using it and enjoying it. Comfort should be a primary goal for all headsets. That’s why the beyond must be so amazing to use
Factor in the idea that the company is selling £100 upgrade headstraps and you have your answer
True, I only own 1 headset (og htc vive) and too lazy to use it more than 5 times a year cause how heavy it is
Comfort is way harder to show as marketing number specs than resolution or camera count.. 👀💰
@@jsivonenVR so true. It’s all gotta come from reviewers. But we can all agree that the beyond looks absolutely comfy compared to the toasters we use
It's weird that Thrill had such a bad fit. I've got WAY more Neanderthal Brow than he does (c.f. PFP) and I find the Quest 3 to be the most comfortable between the Index, Q2, XR Elite, Quest Pro, and Q3... I was super concerned about the fabric strap (I ditched the Q2 strap for an order with KiwiDesigns on Day 2), but I don't have the slightest inclination to change it. It's WAAAY better than the one on the Q2.
Oh, and I have the eye relief all the way *in* - with my eyes as close to the lenses as I can get them...
Different people definitely have different heads - even when they'd describe their heads the same way!
When the first thing you test about a new VR headset is if it survives being in the dryer, you know you're reached peak VR
just in case you leave your headset in your pocket by accident
@@laurenpinschannels Fair
@@laurenpinschannels Best comment
@@laurenpinschannels you can, i just tried it with mine and like 90% of it fits in my pocket.
No peak vr will be full blown fov.
I have the Quest 2. I was thinking about buying the quest 3. You have talked me out of it. The mixed reality/AR was the main reason I wanted to get it; they advertised it to be so incredible. Cooking dinner while watching a movie on a huge floating screen in the kitchen, and it is clearly leaps and bounds behind still compared to what they showed it to be. Thank you for saving me the money and my time.
I'm curious how good the Apple headset's mixed reality will be.
From what I've heard, it's very high quality and probably more of what you expected.
The lenses are really the biggest upgrade, you have to try to understand
@@ggadams639 Agreed. I'd recommend trying it out at a Best Buy or a similar store that would have a demo on display.
have to agree. I like my Q2
@@ggadams639 Lenses are pretty good on 3. they should have done that with 2 as well
As a certified Beat Saber Bro, I can say the Quest 3 will be a contender for the best controllers in competitive beat saber.
Competitive beat saber players would generally shake their head at inside out tracking. Just not accurate enough. And ideally not wireless play. Wired to pc (not video stream like quest)
@@walker2006au a large percentage of the competitive community is on Quest 2 over link.
@@LoganTheobald fair enough. Id say that's alot to do with the cost/accessibility. Even if it's a small advantage, proper tracking would help. I'd be interested to see setups of say the top 100
@@LoganTheobaldand now with growing popularity of Beat Leader you can play competitive standalone, which is overall the best experience on Quest, tracking is perfect.
@@Fiztex553 good not perfect especially if hands go behind back
I completely agree with you regarding the lack of comfort on the quest 3. I couldn't even play an hour of Alyx before a massive pressure induced headache forced me to stop. The elite strap should just be included from the get-go.
Or, I know it`s a brand new and not very common concept, but hear me out, allow backwards-compatibility with Quest 2 Straps, since they are almost identical.
@@shippy1001or make a adapter for it I’ve seen people make their own through a 3d printer on Reddit wish someone sold them I’d buy em lol 😅
@@jamesmoore4856Bobovr have a retrofit kit to make their M2 halo strap fit the Q3, which is a welcome addition
@@shippy1001 They're not though, the headset and strap areas are shaped differently, and the Quest 3 strap area has holes for the charging passthrough.
Not saying they aren't similar-- But am saying so are most our phones, and not like every phone case fits each other-- they have slightly different designs.
That's kind of just the issue though-- Some people find it comfortable, some people don't-- I've already watched a couple reviews that said it's far more comfortable than Quest 2's default strap setup and they enjoy it, while other said it was far WORSE and gave them headaches.
The elite strap would help-- But overall, all headsets fit different individuals differently, and It's not an easy problem to solve, what's pleasant and comfortable for one person, could be Agonizing and Distracting for another.
A lot of the MR stuff is more software related than hardware related, so you can (hopefully) expect more updates to perfect it as time goes on.
And quest 2 mixed reality has improved recently
It's incredible to see the evolution of VR technology over the years, and the Quest 3 seems like it's pushing boundaries.
It's really weird seeing this perspective from everyone. My brother got me the MQ3 out of the blue, raving about how cool it is. I keep putting it on and finding that it's so boring, I don't enjoy the controls or interface of everything, really turned off how even with wide fov, everything still seems way too shoved in your face or way too far out of view to the left and right. not enjoying having to snap my head left and right for everything or crank my head way up or down. Controls are generally horribly clunky and annoying for almost everything. Literally no games that I found are worth the chore of dealing with the whole VR experience for the entirety of a whole game. I feel very bad, this is just a subpar, sloppy, boring and annoying way to game, I'm giving it back to my brother so he can get his money back. I don't want it, I don't enjoy it or care about it in the least. I turn it on, mess around with it for 10 minutes and I'm like oh right, now I remember why this is a crap experience. It's like taking gaming and going well out of your way to make everything annoyingly cumbersome and clunky and not only that, literally everything in the app store is generic crap wanting desperately to be as appreciated as actual good games and apps that don't need VR to be enjoyable. Just not for me. What a truly unfun experience in literally every aspect possible.
I’m relieved that the Quest 3 survived the dryer test! Most accurate test to date 😂😂
Regarding power, in Medal of Honor they let you adjust resolution and other visual settings. On Quest 2 bumping those values all the way up made for a laggy, unplayable game, but the Quest 3 handles it no sweat. Kind of wish other game publishers let you make those kinds of changes, especially for games that aren't actively being improved anymore. I'm with you on comfort, my eyebrow bones hurt.
Those settings sound useful in retrospect but I can see many people refunding the game or leaving bad reviews after messing with the settings and thinking the game is just unplayable (forgetting to undo them). Would require a proper "Experimental Warning: May cause the game to not function optimally" prompt as well as a Reset settings to default button.
Quest 3 just came in few days ago, and I’ve been enjoying it.
The pancakes lenses paired with the display makes it look beautiful imo.
Solid review! I am a VR developer, and this was exactly what I was looking for. Thanks and keep up the great work.
One thing ive actually found good from the mixed reality was in thrill of the fight. It feels so surreal having a boxing bag in your living room, and being able to move around while punching it. To me, its like next level shadow boxing. Obviously you can also fight opponents, but its a lot less immersive to me than just going ham on a boxing bag inside your litteral living room.
I haven't use it in a while now, but I bet Eleven Table Tennis would be great like that too.
Out of all reviews I watched, yours is the one I enjoyed the most and found most useful and interesting.
Thank you a lot for all your hard work you put in creating content for this channel of yours!
Amazing review, unlike other reviewers you showed the problems that the headset has rather than just showing the good. Keep it up!
Hey, fantastic work as usual. This is amazing content for my commute to work so i can keep up with the community i host events for!~
I do want to say that a de-esser might be good for audio! My ears might just be sensitive making music but those sharp "s"es kept hurting my ears.
Keep it up thrill ❤❤
Finally, an honest review that doesn't make this headset sound like it's the best ever made.
Yeah! So many youtuber have sold out for event invites and free stuff. Walking and talking paid for ads.
I got one and have been playing it for the past two days, it's my first VR headset and literally my second time ever using vr but I've had so much fun with it and genuinely adore how I finally have it in my hands after waiting so long.
Yea! This is my first headset too. I definitely have not played as much because the disorientation is pretty bad and it lasts for hours, but that’s just because I’m new to VR. Is it the same way for you?
@@fishseas as someone who's been playing vr for 3 years and had 5 headsets (4 different ones), it's a person to person thing. I never got motion sick in vr but some of my friends immediately did and never got over it, and some of my friends immediately did and then got over it after days or weeks
@@MidnightNachos yes, I rarely ever get motion sick but I have a really hard time with the disorientation of everything not feeling real after I take the headset off. it’s some thing that experienced VR users kind of forget about because after a week or two it goes away. It’s unfortunate that some people aren’t able to enjoy vr due to motion sickness but I’m sure there are ways to mitigate it.
@@fishseassome people use a small mat or something to stand on so they can know or keep track of where they are in their room still. Idk if that would help with disorientation though
@@fishseas I haven't felt that disorientation in a long time, I legitimately forgot it even existed since the last time I felt it would've been 2-3 years ago, likely closer to 3
Im currently a quest 1 user, and its really great to hear that they brought back that style of ipd adjustment.
Im saving up for a quest 3.
As a quest 1 user it pisses me off people are complaining about the price when we paid $500 for this quest 1 dog shit
Never used quest 1, so i don't know the battery usage. But having the meta quest 3 myself, the battery usage is quite intense.
Can't play more than 3 hours even plugged in pc or wall.
So just keep in mind that if you buy one, you might have to buy accessories to play longer...once third parties release em
@vestio I still use quest 1. It has OLED. All the new versions used grayed out led.
bro I remember upgrading from the q1 to quest2, shit was totally worth it, can only imagine q1 to q3.
@@benedictcumberbatch4275 tf are you playing bro the quest 1 is literally bricked rn bc it's outdated
I'm excited, the Quest 3 is a genuinely a nice headset upgrade. The best of all, the accessories are really well put together from day 1. Considering the cost of a VR capable PC, this is arguably the better set-up. Especially love how the Quest 3 Charging Dock does actually charge all the controllers, headset, and deluxe strap with battery in one convenient set-up. That's a game changer right there, especially with upgrades now streamlined, so it's easier to pick-up and go. But I also went all-in and got the active straps and carry case, these all just fit in the case together. So overall, insanely good engineering. It's easy to pack it up to a friend's place and just be good to go for a few hours.
So, well done Meta Quest hardware (and software) engineering team! You've got a winner on your hands. Now, they can focus on streamlining the VR entry experience. I think there's a lot of opportunity to further reduce friction. Maybe even a "Hey Quest, start Pistol Whip" and have it ready to go by the time you put it on.
I'm hoping that there will be company's that make facial interfaces that allow the headset to chill closer to your face. id be so damn happy if vr cover did that
bobovr's m3 pro strap for the quest 3 will have a mode where you can use it without the facial interface, what I really want to see is a custom fitted facial interface with iphone 3d scanning to get it customized to your face like the bigscreen beyond has. i'm probably gonna go the frankenquest3 route with a htc vive deluxe audio strap mod (i have this on the quest 2 and it is incredible) or the bobovr m3pro which i've heard great things about.
And hopefully one that cuts out the sides for those of us Pro users who liked MR with the light blockers taken off
you mean companies
I would love a custom 3d printed facial interface ala bigscreen beyond.
I'm very hopeful that the Beyond's custom facial interface has set a new bar in terms of comfort that many 3rd party manufacturers are going to be reaching for. For some people like my SO who have yet to find a headset that isn't painful to wear for less than an hour, face comfort is an absolute deal breaker.
I'm amazed by how good the tracking is on Quest 3, I played Expert+ in Beat Saber using claw grip (my hands were essentially covering the entire face of the controller where the tracking dots are) and it still tracked just as good.
It uses a combo of hand tracking, ir dots, and possibly also some of the arm tracking as well
How can you play beat saber with a claw grip? I play expert plus ghost and Camilla and I can only play expert with claw grip
How?! The claw grip covers the sensors for me and the controllers lose tracking lol
Is claw grip any more difficult without the rings?
@@budbutterson9577 for me it just didn’t work lol
I also bought the Quest Pro when it came out so I'm not exactly eager to dump some more cash for an experience that is not significantly better than the Pro. I just got the chance to try a friend's Quest 3 today and while certain things are better, they're mostly small things. Especially considering this friend had a dead pixel in their brand new Quest 3 out of the box, so he had to order another one. 🤷🏻♀ For someone who mostly uses my Quest Pro for XR design, I'm not convinced I need to upgrade. It was refreshing hearing your take on the gaming side of things, especially your comment that it's not necessarily a needed upgrade right now since the MR content is lacking at the moment. We need more influencers giving realistic takes like that! ✨
2 months later, still no quest 3 giveaway lol
Right! Straight cap, just to get more traffic to his discord.
Anyone asking about the giveaway got banned, so nobody would ask about it anymore, i think they are just hoping people give up / forget about it tbh.
Coming up on 3 months actually. Was kinda wondering about that. I've been looking forward to the giveaway, but now I'm not sure it's still going to happen. And I came here so I don't get banned for asking about it "again" though technically I never personally bugged anyone. A mod jokingly replied he ate it, and that's the closest thing to an update I've heard.
I saw that same thing. I never said a word in order to avoid getting banned for even mentioning the giveaway. I straight up believe it was all a lie and just banned anyone who made noise about it 3 months onto 4 and still not a peep. Just bs xbox game p😊ass giveaways, lol
Man, I thought people had forgotten about this. I'm glad to see some comments about this! I wonder if he will ever address this.
Very excited to see the future of mixed reality with the quest 3 having color passthrough and a depth sensor. Sure it isn’t quite there yet, but we’re stepping into the right direction! Might get a quest 4 if they really expand on it, but for now I’m content with my PSVR 2 (even if it can’t do mixed reality)
Anyways, back to watching the video! Never here this early…
One minute ago, wow
I really wanted a psvr2 but it's launch games didn't thrill me and I was hoping for future sales. It's nice to see people still enjoying it
I only want the Quest 3 as a pc headset that can be used portable. PSVR2 is still worth it for the games it has.
I’ve been using Oculus products since the CV1 just for context and have bought all of my headsets off of Oculus/Meta.
This is by far the best headset they’ve ever made.. but.
The first day I got my quest 3 I had nothing but issues. It turns out that’s because the headset did not update yet. Once the headset fully updated, it was a much better experience, and the following day was even better. If you are coming from quest two don’t expect a huge leap yet but as time goes on and it will get better as it always does with newer updates.
I highly recommend it, especially for brand new VR users. They will be blown away by this HMD.
I’m 13 and half way there on saving for it my bdays in December and then there’s Christmas so all the money I get from that and my allowance till then might get me to the amount of buying it
Keep in mind that his experience is unique to him because the quest 3 is the most comfortable one I’ve had so far and the only one I felt like was made with glasses compatibility in mind
I like how honest your videos are. I was seeing so many videos about how good the passthrough is and to see you show it realistically instead of just the recorded videos has definitely tempered my expectations. I still want one, but I'm not thinking it's going to be the most insane thing ever. I still think the AR stuff we are seeing now is the future glimpsing through right now.
Agreed. Glad that ThrillSeeker has maintained high expectations for quality when talking about this feature.
Honest? Wtf are u talking about? Meta sent him heaset for review, guess what they forced him to say. Q3 is fairly good set tbh, but it still has major downsides we already seen in Q2. (not being able to maintain charge on wired link, uncomfortable strap, short overall battery life, overcomplicated internal battery replacement, etc)
@@Unknown-gj1vr you going to cry about it?
Glad to hear someone really give a good solid critique of the headset's shortcomings, a great middle of the road for first impressions! Been a while since a Meta headset review from Thrill, always a treat! Keep up the good work man!
The Good : New VR Headset, Yippee!
The Bad : It's Still Meta
The Ugly : It's Still . . . Meta . . .
Why I’m holding out for the deckard!
The Ugly : It's still LCD.
I'm ugly and I'm proud.
🤔
I’ve had a Rift S since march 2020, and about six months ago the cable died, couldn’t find a new cable for cheap, so I decided to get the Quest 3 and a few days ago I got it.
I used to play a lot of Beat Saber (not the best, I believe at my peak I was somewhere in the top 9,000 players on ScoreSaber), and I gotta say - tracking is amazing. I had no problem passing light it up on expert plus, and even with airline that doesn’t work 90% of the time I’ve had zero visible delay and the mods work and it’s all perfect. There is a little compression but again, wireless and barely noticeable. Definitely great for pro beat saber players.
I just want the 120hz on link. That’s everything missing for me as a beat saber player.
Great video as always!
Just use virtual desktop
@@Planet-Anime nope. Got a cable and I’m not going back to wireless PCVR
Getting this for Christmas and so excited! Been using ancient artifact for vr gaming, oculus rift, and I cannot wait to experience this.
I was in the exact same situation! Been using an original Oculus Rift since 2018, and for a Quest 3 for Christmas/birthday. It requires a couple more steps to play Steam games, and I'm bummed that the link cable doesn't provide as much power as the headset uses, but I'm absolutely loving it! Passthrough is amazing, and being able to read small text that was just a blur on the Rift is fantastic. I'm very, very happy with it, and hope you are as well.
I went from a phone VR setup using drivers for PC to this. It arrives tomorrow and I can't wait.
Getting the quest 2 to easily fit right without pain, sliding and impairment to clarity was such a hassle with it being used by multiple members of my family. Finding the sweet spot again felt impossible. The lens improvement makes me so excited
Being as down to earth as possible I still watch vr content and channels because of you thrill, I've been watching you since the quest 2 launch anticipation so during quarantine and I just want to say thank you. For being you and constantly posting vr content for me and many others to enjoy. ❤
From PSVR to Oculas Go and now to Quest 3. Surprisingly the tech is getting good. I think the immediate thing that blew me away was the AR passthrough features, which can be used for endless endless things. I was not disappointed with the Quest 3 even at price range. The only thing I'd like to see them fix is the fuzzy image of AR and a slight blurryness in regular VR, which to no avail is yet to be corrected. Nothing seems to fix it....All in all, it's still awesome...
Well, either the man is working on a huge project outside of youtube, or the quest 3 completely captured the thrill, and it's up to us to locate him in the depths of VRCHAT. It's almost strange he's been absent for the metric ton of VR news that's been coming up lately. Hope all is well.
yeah im concerned too, but hopefully nothing bad happened
I am impressed with the in-built audio solution. It has not been mentioned in most reviews however, coming from someone who used the Vive pro mod with the Q2 for the last two years it is remarkably good.
You know the sad part is they could’ve very easily just put a micro SD slot into it for upgradable purposes but that wouldn’t make them nearly as much money would it.
Right. A 1tb micro SD card is $100 only.
@@stormvr1070 more like $10 from China
@@Mermete8and 10gbs of trojan viruses are included for free🤯
SD card storage is notoriously easy to be corrupted
@@gara737Okay sure, but most android phones (which the Quest family runs on) have them, so why can’t they just throw it in there anyway?
The method you found at 13:21 to fix the pain is best summarized as “the 90’s time traveling gamer fit” method. Because it combines a form of VR/AR tech that every leading technology company wanted to be the first to develop and likely subsequently monopolize, with the backwards Ash Ketchum baseball cap.
Thank you so much for the baseball cap suggestion. I will be able to use my Q3 till my retrofit comes for my BOBOVR. Thing was pulling my hair and gouging my scalp! Thanks again, this worked!
I feel like with the release of the Quest 3, AR/MR will finally take off. Its like the first iteration of a foldable phone or something similar, crude but its just enough to get the idea off the ground. Can't wait for it to be tuned and improved upon!
Yea but foldable phones are still about flash factor than actual use or convenience. I feel like MR is always going to be less impressive than VR, because you're back to using a very limited world size.
Yeah I 100% agree after trying some AR/MR experiences on Q3. I eagerly await the day we get a Pokemon AR game :)
it wont lol keep dreaming
@@fen4554 I only made the comparison because that was the most relevant thing that came to mind. What I meant was that first gen tech will always be jank, but future iterations are where things get polished and refined. MR is uncharted waters, we just need a few "breakout" apps to really get some traction going for MR.
@@realnerdethan that'll be fucking SICK dude.
Fuck it, why not just port Pokemon GO to the Quest? With the full color passthrough cams and hand tracking, I wouldn't rule it out.
Played about 2 hours in the Q3 for the first time last night and was very impressed how big a leap it is from its predecessor. I bought the elite strap with it and it's leaps and bounds better than the cloth strap. Did not feel any fatigue in my face or ears (biggest issue with the cloth strap). Can't wait to jump back in tonight!
My first and only Quest is starting to give out after 3 or 4 years of love, so I'm wondering how much better the 3 (and more expensive) would be to upgrade to. Glad we got a good, reliable review to enjoy.
this is one of the best reviews I’ve ever watched . Good job bro
I think the mixed reality is just a really lovely quality of life feature that doesn't need a killer app. It's more like a "force multiplier" that just smoothes out all the edges of the thing, and makes it way more usable on a day to day basis
I'm certainly enjoying mine! I think it was definitly worth the price for an upgrade, in spite of the few drawbacks.
would you recommend for me, and others, to upgrade from quest 2 to 3?
Yes, but only if you have the disposable income and you're willing to purchase a different head strap. If you're on the edge at all, then I would say just stick with the Quest 2 for now. The price of the Quest 3 will likely fall after a while, and by then some of the software issues will probably have been addressed.@@TomSagi-sf4uf
Tks for this impressions video, I have family members that will have a use for this headset. I will be forwarding this video to them and putting it in my discord. Keep up the good work.
On the other hand I will be waiting for something to replace my original Vive using the wireless adapter.
The quest three looks great. It looks like a good upgrade from my quest to which broke on me last weekend, which is really sad but overall I’m glad I have a chance that I could upgrade soon not a big fan that the old straps are not compatible with the new ones but it’s OK
Dude, thrill, I love your artistic decisions. I notice the projector beaming some cool graphics, that's so sick.
I got mine (128Gb version) three days ago and I'm loving it. Definite improvements over the Quest 2 (not saying there's anything wrong with the Q2 - still a great headset especially at the price) in frame rates, controller tracking, resolution, sound. I was able to re-use my VR Power II battery with a little fiddling with the straps to get it to fit, and also the silicon face shield thing that Meta sent me for the Q2 (you know, the thing that fixed the sweat-smelly facial interface problem?) fits on the Q3 - not perfectly but close enough. On the other hand the silicon rubber grips I bought for the Q2 controllers kill the tracking on the new controllers (much as I expected but I thought I'd try it to be sure) so I can't use them; bit of a shame but I'm sure someone will make something that works soon enough. I wear specs and the built-in adjustment works just fine for me - the kit is comfortable even after playing Warplanes: WWI Fighters for like ninety minutes straight.
Great review, guy. Subscribing.
Still running my CV1 Rift from 2015 and it still rocks.
11:40 your cat is adorable Thrill!!
Great first impressions as usual, shame about the gray screen problem because LCD things, the bad mic (you could really hear the popping) and the headset strap. Thank you for the detailed view of the device, lole what each sense was. I appreciate hearing about these VR devices from you, as you always seem to nail it, I'll wait for the price to come down before picking one up 👍🏻
Am glad you spoke at length about comfort as well as referencing the opinion of other content creators. I didn't expect to have the money to buy it and while I can buy it now, I'll choose to wait for the Quest 3 lite and other options to appear as this one doesn't offer enough for my limited income. Would rather wait the year or two for more headsets to release or for an undeniably good deal to come about.
You are amazing Thrill ❤ Thank you for your honesty.
I just got it. And I agree with you on every point. The mixed reality is good, but not mindblowing. I hope they improve that a lot. I expected the fov the be amazing, but it's not, its better but not that good. Still looking through scuba gear. The tracking was really good though and noticed a big difference in beatsaber. The new chip is not noticable yet, less hicups tho. I've not tested the mic yet, but i believe it will get better with software. The clarity and resolution is good, can still see pixels tho. And the comfort.. it's manageable. But that just means it's not horrible and also not comfortable. it's probably keeping me from playing with it more often. So prob going to get a bobovr strap. Also the battery, feels even worse than the quest 2 . So that battery pack will help, a lot..
I see the quest 3 as an investment. It's probably going to get a lot better overtime, but it's just not there yet.
Someone should compare launch quest 2 vs quest 3. That would probably make things better.
Btw also not so funny thing. The game you get with the quest 3. Is around 130 gB and the base model quest has 128 gigs. Not so funny. But the quest 3 128 gig is already 550 euros for me and the 512 gig is a whopping 700 euros. The euro is even worth more than the dollar so getting extra screwed in europe...
The size of Asgard 2 game is about 30gb not 130gb. I was worried getting 128 gigs after your comment but I feel like its manageable as the biggest games are around 30gb
yeah, i just saw someone say that but it seemed pretty unlikely, he was prob talking about Agard 1 (the pc version)
@@StasVarych
I mean let’s be real it’s mind blowing to people who had like the first oculus with the one controller to people who never had a vr set before
For me the headset was too painful to use because of the knobs behind the headset so I taped two socks on them and it fixed everything. Didn't realize I could've put on a cap instead lol :D If paying a lot for the elite strap feels too much just tape/tie some socks or some other clothing onto the strap and you should be good!
this..this is what DIY is all about. there aint nothing some socks and tape cant fix...cough
With my almost 73mm IPD this is a godsend... I could not really use Quest2 but I can use this. I am really thankful for combination of extended IPD range and huge sweet spot of the lenses. To me it is almost the greatest improvement and feature in quest 3.
my wife is on the other end, having 55mm, sometimes 54, depending on who and how its meassured. but the sentiment is: youre the 2%. we already have 90% of people covered.. sucks to be you to much effort for little gain.
i have around 73-75mm and the quest 2 was generally ok, it was only an issue when i was trying to focus really hard on something.
His low light tracking test had what look like steam vr lighthouses present. The quest 2 can operate in a room illuminated only by two gen 1 lighthouses. The quest 3 probably shares this property. Though the lighthouses are dimmer than the projector (the quest 2 can see infrared). I should note the tracking is bad but possible in those circumstances. It would be neat to see the performance of the quest 3 with only the infrared light of the light houses
I have a bit of a stomach and I found with my Oculus Rift S it would constantly lose track when my arms down by my waist to rest them and the hand that dropped out would go crazy and do stuff in games. With the Quest 3 even when I have the controller almost out of sight under my stomach it almost never loses tracking. It's REALLY great! :)
You are literally the only person that's been honest about passthrough and MR! When I got it and saw how grainy it was, I thought I had a faulty headset since every other creator has said how good it is and no one thought to mention that's its this grainy
The age old marketing scheme of "we want to sell this thing to the masses"
They said you "can read your phone with it", however they never once said "how well you can read it"
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 very true, you can just about make out what text says if you hold it close enough and by that point it starts warping
@DripChip_ I can't speak for every phone, but I've found a that my phone (galaxy s20+) has a brightness sweet spot. Too dim it's blurry, too bright and you can't read it. Also to help with warp, try to hold the phone as steady as possible
I recommended to a friend of mine to get a 256GB quest 2 when the deals were going on, and he's happy with it - he also believes waiting at least a year to see where quest 3 goes, quest 2 is a great option, especially if you're not into truly intensive apps.
I was thinking of getting one for a year now and after tons of research I thought about this one until I saw the amount of reviews, it does have ups and downs like with every system but depends on what we put into it and how far we take them.
I went for the Quest 2 mainly cause I got mine for $180 cause of promo codes and so far I’ve been sick to my stomach but I’m working on it.
Personal note: People seem to focus on the battery life but I personally see a few hours as a good thing, I think if you need to spend 3+ hours in vr then you must be trying to escape reality far more than someone who stares at a screen for 9 hours, don’t get me wrong, it’s fun but you don’t wanna fall down the rabbit hole.
the arms on the headset move so you can even out the pressure on your face. when you first put it on the pressure will be on your forehead then you need to adjust the arms to even it out. if you angle them far enough you can have it resting on your cheek bones not even touching your forehead. 13:24 also everyone shown here doesn't have it on correctly. i used the quest 2 since launch and bought 4 headsets for friends and this is very common for new users with the default strap. people tend to pull the strap down too far over their ears but once you learn how to use the arms you can lessen the slack on the top strap and get a good fit
Upgraded from Q2 and it's a massive improvement in image quality. I knew exactly why I wanted to upgrade, pancake lens. Finding the sweet spot for me in the q2 was always a pain due to eye condition (degeneration of cornea).
Long ago I had also modded my vive to use pancake lens and it was day and night
Replace the eyes.
@@arandomcommenter412 easier to replace the quest 😅
Something almost nobody mentions is that the edges around the lenses on Quest 3 are really thick compared to Quest Pro. I have to keep it set pretty far out to keep it from touching my nose.
great review - thanks for the overview
The bad was eye strain I got after 1,5 hours of gameplay while experienced the htc vive, oculus quest, pico 4 . Could be the screens/lenses that are used. ipd and depth was set correctly btw. Maybe one of a few i guess
I'm still using my Quest 1, and with the OLED screens I'm feeling very hesitant to switch to anything that doesn't have it. It's getting more and more tempting though
I was using a Quest 1 too. I can confirm that the lost of the OLED screen is really frustrating for me. For example, in Prime Video on Quest 1 you really have the feeling to be in a Cinema in the dark. In the Quest 3 you can’t have this feeling. I can confirm that the confort on the Quest 1 is better than the Quest 3 too, I will have to buy another strap. Despite that, the Quest 3 has other great features and you will not regret if you decide to buy it 🙂
Same! Good to see someone else who's hung onto the quest 1 for so long! Upgrading to quest 3 is looking very tempting, but at the same time, we've waited this long, how much longer would it be to wait for something even better come out?
@@pieguy5692 3-5 years probably.
yeah, I am still using my Quest 1 and I hate the greyish LCD panels. So i skipped the Q2 and hoped for an OLED/microLED Q3, even for a much higher price. Now I am disappointed. The only positive thing is the disappearance of screen door effect, the resolution has doubled compared with Quest 1. I think it is worth to try it out. Otherwise I will return it to Amazon and keep my beloved Q1 for the next years, until there is one with suitable screen panels on the market.
@@pieguy5692
Meta announced that it's higher end luxory Pro headset will launch in 2025 to compete against apple vision Pro, using dual micro-oled displays, higher resolution etc.
After owning 12-13 VR headsets, this is by far best value headset I have ever used! Well done Meta even though I'm not a fan of Meta but this blows everything out in terms of value for money
Any advice for newbies? I'm looking to buy one myself and don't know where to start. Is it worth buying the 512 GB option?
@@Lukiepookie69420 if you talk about value, soeciall for new joiners into VR, I will say nothing else will come close to Quest 3..... Depends on your usage you can decide on storage, I myself play mostly on PCVR so I got 128GB but if you like Quest games or the upcoming ones it's good idea to take 512GB since it's not expandable storage later
Some will say wait for Pico but the software side won't be as good as Quest due to regional issues and after introduction of MR into these, software is very important
@@Lukiepookie69420no, grab the cheaper one. 128 GB is enough for 20-40 games depending on the size of them. The money you are saving you can use to get an elite strap w/ battery or just get more games in general. I've had the Quest 1, Quest 2 and Quest 3 and I can confidently say that I've never had problems with storage, and I've got the 64 GB variant of the quest 2. 128 GB is very good.
Most excited to see how Valve hopefully responds with an index 2.
I don't think they can
There’s been so many people talking about this VR headset, but we finally get Thrill talking about it. Worth the wait.
Really appreciate your reviews, always balanced while maintaining optimism. I think the bad mic and strap are two things that are easily replacable by consumers. With many people already having their own audio set ups they want to use. It looks like Meta chose to skimp on areas that are easily upgradable, which I think is a reasonable choice - brings cost down.
Actually i did some testing with the mic and got much better recording quality then he has in this video. Don‘t know why.
Practically no screen door effect, maybe, but it's still there. You can especially notice it when you look at solid colors, such as a cloudless light blue sky.
sure, Q3 has a resolution of 25 PPD (pixel per degree), To eliminate the sceen door effect, you need 60 PPD and more. The is a long way to go, but it is a nice start, compared with Quest 1 and 2.
@@han_zei_bu_liang_li Yeah, it's an improvement, at least in terms of the PPD. Meanwhile, I'm still happy with the blacks of my original Quest over both its successors. Still can't believe Meta hasn't improved on that unless you have a Quest Pro.
@@echelon2k8 Meta cuts the costs for maximizing the profit.
I'm most likely to do with this one when I did with the quest to wait two or three months for a few accessories and some updates to come out and then jump in once the ecosystem is a little more matured
From me whos had several VR headsets since the pre-order Vive. I can say this headset is definitely worth the $$$. The lenses themselves are the selling point for me, they're so clear! But my ONE gripe about it is this. I just bought my Quest 3 yesterday and I was honestly really impressed....until I noticed a dead pixel in my left eye down and to the right of the center of my vision. Only headset that's ever had a dead pixel for me. Once I noticed it I can't unnoticed it. Going to be exchanging it for another but for those that are on the fence about buying one just be aware. Apparently tons of people on reddit and meta forums have had this issue.
I want to point out something on the passthrough, for many it will be mind blowing, You have to remember you have a perspective many dont, you've used a varjo XR3, the best of the best mixed reality, of course the quest 3 wont impress you
but from people like me who the best mixed reality I have used is the quest 2, it has blown my mind, its like the meme of "showing a renaissance kid a phone" what is to use just an every day object is witchcraft to them, the same is here, what is to you decent mixed reality will be the best ever seen for the vast majority of us
I’ve also had a terrible experience with the comfort. It somehow feels worse than the quest 2. Almost everything else though for me is great and I don’t regret buying it at all. I’m just waiting to get stick drift in 2 months
Did you get an elite strap? That’s what I did. But the one day gap between having it and not having it was awful
@@EnderMon is the elite strap really that much better? How can it make the comfort better? I am considering buying it
@@Banneri it’s a loooot of money so if you can wait for a third party to make one I would. But yes, maybe I’m a wimp but I could NOT play with the default strap. Once I got the elite strap (I personally went all out and got the battery one lol) it was much more comfortable and I played for several hours
@@Banneriwait for kiwi to make their own head strap. YES it makes all the difference in the world. I prefer the elite style strap. It basically smushes your face into the the headset providing the highest FOV possible. Having said that there is also the halo strap style which was on the PSVR 1+2 that puts most of the pressure on your forehead instead of your cheeks and eyebrows. It’s a preference, personally I think with a pleather with cushioning on the facial interface it would make the stock strap more usable. No a big fan of the material used on it currently.
Same, i love it but comfort sucks. Going to order the BoboVR headstrap soon.
Love your content keep up the amazing reviews and news there’s so much going on in the vr market that no one would never know about if it wasn’t for you
Bought q3, turning up on the 20th, have a rift and q2, will definitely be changing out the straps to a Bobo, changed the q2 straps to Bobo, very comfortable.
Hopefully Meta don’t just drop kick the quest 2 like they did to the quest 1 😅. Great Video/review, really gotta think about getting, thanks for the insight though 👍
I doubt they will since they continue to sell quest 2s despite the release of the quest 3
it's Meta
Quest 1 was bad hardware. It gave a bad experience
Meta did support the quest 1 for a decent while. Given it's first generation gardware. Quest 2 will probably last even longer because of the larger playerbase using iy
Quest 1 is a 2019 product and still get security update until 2024. The same year galaxy s10 and pixel 4 released, wondering if those phone still get update
I'd love to hear what the performance is like for games like Blade and Sorcery. I always felt like I was pushing the quest 2 to the brink with that game.
just in case anyone is curious, mixed reality on the quest 3 looks almost exactly like what you see when you are starting to get the effects of magic mushrooms. it's that "oh damn i think i am starting to feel it" moment, but without the euphoria.
I don't know if this is true for anyone else though, so please comment if it is lol
I don’t do shrooms but it feels so trippy I just took of my headset and everything looks kinda curved looking at my phone screen rn is a trip lol
I could see that.
How does it do with glasses do you think? My quest two actually has scuff marks from me having to wear glasses that actually rubbed lens to lens and I had to use old damaged glasses with them adjusted super close to my eyes just so they didn't rub on the lenses. Also does the quest two style aftermarket head strap work just as fine on the quest 3?
Still rocking the original quest, plan to use it till it dies, kinda hard to believe that its already been 4 years since it released.
Good idea, in just 4 years they released 2 new versions, no need to get rid of what works just fine
I think wat my plan would be if quest 3 wouldn't be my second headset is to get a quest 3 and then only use it with my PC
The Quest 1 has better comfort and oled, after so many years it still got strong points.
@@euden_yt Better comfort? Q1 is about 100 grams heavier than the Q3 and there''s just no way the Q3 isn't more comfortable.Q3 is more shallow, doesnt stick out your face and is much, much smaller. I've only had experience with the Q1, but I can't believe it will be as bad as that headset. Absolute brick that was. Couldn't stand it for more than 30 mins and others I asked couldn't too.
I was torn between hopping up the ladder with an aero, but I couldn't stomach buying all the other required stuff with it. For $500 i'm already super happy with my quest 3. Shooting down my own apartment walls to reveal an alien planet is pretty cool
what did you think of the passthrough?
@@AfkBxnditI don’t have Quest 3, but imo passtheough on Quest 2 seems to be better within the past month. I used it for a mixed reality game and I saw almost everything irl just fine (except my phone). I can only imagine Quest 3 will be better
@@mcgritty8842 Quest 3 is MUCH better than Quest 2 on the passthrough front. It doesn't even begin to compare with the magic leap in terms of room clarity [ML is like looking through clear lenses not a camera) but FOV and graphics are better and the headset also does VR.
@@AfkBxndit I was super impressed honestly. Mine didn’t have nearly as much warping as Thrill’s
@@RefrigeratedTP would you say it’s worth it to upgrade?
Thrill of The Fight VR is the killer mixed-reality app right now, if you're into that. It's pretty faithful to the experience of actually boxing, complete with the intense but enjoyable cardio workout and yet free from the busted noses. Being able to trade blows at full-force without the risk of accidently uppercutting my toddler has been a God-send for my fitness. I have literally felt my conditioning begin to return and my energy increase in the week since my Quest 3 arrived.
If I'm completely honest I have some mixed things to say about this headset, being primarily a PCVR user and having upgraded from the Rift S, but some of the standalone apps might be what saves me from buyer's remorse long enough to hold out for PCVR fixes.
Im really excited to get this! My Twitch community bought me this with the upgraded strap, so im glad I'll have comfort at least lol
Agree on all accounts. I think the quest 3 is a huge upgrade in almost every way. Wish the comfort was better and that they had eye tracking but oh well. Great as is for the price.
Don't forget LCD local dimming for deep inky blacks. Such a shame Meta used just a regular LCD display.
Comfort has been great for me after fiddling. I had the same forehead issues at first but fiddling with the strap (loosening it just a bit, experiment with the arms and topstrap) has made the comfort great for me.
Hell of a first impression video 😂 (felt quite in depth like a full review) thanks as always.
But when he threw the quest 3 in the dryer and the music became upbeat made me laugh so hard
Couldn’t agree more, most uncomfortable stock headset that’s I’ve tried too!
Thanks for all you do!
Still faithful to the index. It's the best headset for what I play most, which is VRChat. I'm really excited to see what all the players bring to the table for the next generation of VR headsets.
Already have mine and am super excited to see what it’s capable of
Got mines day of one.... smooth gameplay, it's worth every penny
Will say, this headset made me realize just how much light matters for MR and tracking. I thought my room was lit pretty well, but apparently not well enough and the passthrough is grainier than I’ve seen in reviews and sometimes tells me it’s too dark for hand tracking. Guess I gotta brighten the environment up
Each eye gets 4 mega pixels. Put into perspective, each eye gets an early 00s video camera lol. Yellow lights also really help how it see, whites and bluer lights will make it more grainy.
I saw piano quest on TH-cam and I ordered one. I do have a quest 2 and I haven't really used it recently so hopefully this gets more use, the AR was what interested me.
My current headset is an Oculus Rift I got in 2017/18 or whenever lol so it's a vast improvement in every area and I'm loving it so far
Personally I am very happy with my Quest 3. The problems you had with comfort I luckily didn't have for the most part. It does start to hurt a little bit after wearing it for long periods at a time. But for someone like me, who most days doesn't have hours upon hours to play, that's not the biggest problem. And besides, I'm hoping that there will be some 40€ straps coming out from third parties, that are just as good as the official upgraded strap vom Meta. I really couldn't be much happier with the headset. Yes, the battery life is a bit of a bummer, but that's also nothing a powerbank in your pocket can't fix.
The thing that made me go and spend my money on the Quest 2 was Echo VR. So I only see myself buying a Quest 3 is if the price drops and some cool software comes along. I could really see myself work in a VR environment, but both the hardware and the software is not there yet.
The hardware isn't there? Maybe on the quest 2 it's not. The virtual displays on quest 3 are razor sharp thanks to the pancake optics. I'd say with a light over a keyboard that fixes the passthrough grain substantially.
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 well I can only talk about Quest 2. I don't have access to a Quest 3 to see for myself and don't feel like buying it to realize it's still not there for me. And even if the hardware was fine I have a problem with software. If I can't do basic work on it standalone like answering email (Gmail worked and then stopped working) and get this there is no Polish keyboard support. I can't write in my language. And the voice typing is off in my region. So kinda bummer.
RIP echo
Uhm... yes it is?
You can import your real furniture and keyboard into the environment or talk to text, and you can link to a pc or laptop, and you can collaborate with coworkers in project management style rooms....
I couldn't work on virtual monitors on the Quest 2, but I definitely can on the Quest 3. A huge leap. The hardware is here.
I actually find the quest fits me pretty well. I do have neanderthal eye pits but I also have really high cheekbones so the pressure is evenly distributed across my face bones.
Got this issue with the eyebrows pain too, glad to hear that its a strap thing.. in my case setting the interface to 1 and pointing it down a little helped (also closes the nose gap). About Bluetooth i managed to use some headphones.. if you go to its setting and turn off the hd-audio the delay gets shorter.. played some compound and skyrim with it for a couple of hours and it worked well enough.. trying to make it work with beatsaber using the latence setting in game