There was a recent Pokemon fighting game called Pokken. I don't know what you would call it, an arena fighter? I played it for a week. The netcode was pretty bad so I dropped it.
@@qianFGC Pokken ain't recent anymore. It's been almost 10 years since the first one was made. Unless Nintendo plans to throw their hat again in the ring to make a sequel, I doubt it.
Wait really?! I'm also a Canadian that loves fighting game but I was never aware of us keeping BBTAG alive! (Probably because I am more interested towards tournament from USA like combo breaker or Texas showdown)
@@jeremiegaming3034 Late reply but hey thx and yea bigger bbtag events are in usa of course but we do our best here. We have many vods on Montreal Airdashers channel of weeklies/monthlies/regionals
As long as matchmaking works properly, the depth of tag/assist fighters shouldn't be a problem. Specially with how fun 2v2 already was in the first Alpha.
I think Tag Fighters produce a better viewer experience than traditional fighters because tagging inherently introduces a ton of mix-up and outplay potential. Tag fighters being so unbalanced and fast paced means they're great for getting clips to build social media hype.
They're actually worse for viewer experience when it turns into a jumble of incomprehensible explosions and motion blur. If people can't follow what's happening, they won't be interested. It's why other modern fighters like Strive and SF6 have slowed down and added more hit stun to make it easier for viewers (and players) to follow.
Mostly disagree with that A casual viewer sees a random tag and suddenly 4 characters r all on the screen at once doing different attacks, u don't even know who's who or what team they're in. Its better if u know the game sure but visual clarity always takes a nose dive. Couple that with tag fighters being faster on average than 1v1s it can be difficult to watch
I do understand why they opted for a tag fighter, but I think it would have worked better as a 3v3 one. Just like in LoL, it would have been like having a tank, a support and a damage dealer.
I am pretty confident that 2XKO will be a hit within the FGC community but I still have my reservations about its reach extending to players already put off by fighting games. The simple controls was a great start but i worry it’ll be completely overshadowed by being a tag fighter.
Actually, Fighter's History Mizoguchi Kiki Ippatsu!!, released on the Super Famicom in 1995 was the first time a fighting game got a tag mode with actual tag mechanics, even before Kizuna Encounter and X-Men vs Street Fighter
Project L doesn't need to limit itself to being a tag fighter for one thing. It has the budget and reach to have both a tag and 1v1 mode. I think it's being safe right now, however
I am pretty confident that it will be a hit within the FGC community but I still have my reservations about its reach extending to players already put off by fighting games. The simple controls was a great start but i worry it’ll be completely overshadowed by being a tag fighter.
No mention of SNK Heroines Tag Team Frenzy? 😞 One day it will get the love it deserves Once you get used to the fact that you can only knock out the opponent with a Super and take the time to learn the mechanics, you will discover how well thought out the game is I have seeing japanese pro players doing amazing stuff with the tag system and the items SNK Heroines is like a fusion of Smash Bros and Marvel vs Capcom
2xko will probably attract new players, but will fall off due to saltiness of losing over and over. Like alot of other fighting game does, but probably will be a little more toxic due to the game able to queue with a partner instead of playing alone, and goes with the blame game, like any other cooperative PVP games out there.
As someone who still remembers how I felt when I started to play LOL on my own in 2017, that's wild. The new player experience got better with time as they updated the shop and the runes, but it's still a mind-boggling undertaking to learn about matchups, items and the strategy around those.
Still wondering why they didn't just call it "Doublekill" instead of making it sound like some lame 2011 extreme sports game that tries too hard to be "kOoL"
The thing I don't like about some of these fighting games is that the combo counter doesn't stop at 100. I wished all future fighting games made it so the combo counter always stops at 100 (or 99).
@@k-thesupreme3511 I remember playing Capcom vs. SNK 2, and I was using Training mode to use infinite groove gauges and have it so opponent doesn't die with no health left. I tried the Haohmaru infinite while abusing HP in custom combo mode (A-Groove) and all of a sudden my hit streak just keeps going, until number 100 is displayed and the game locks the combo count at 100 until my combo ends. Same deal with Capcom Fighting Evolution, but I abused Sakura's Shououken in custom combo mode instead. Also, it would be unrealistic for players to get a 100 hit combo, so locking the combo count at 100 (or 99) would be better.
IMO tag fighters with bbtag mechanics of being able to swap characters any time they're on the screen are way too cool. I just don't have th IQ to play them
Not throwing shade but you definitely get the vibe this video took a while to produce because 2XKO's Alpha was over a month ago and the actual current talk of the town is....the new Marvel vs Capcom collection, which wasn't mentioned at all in this video 😅
Man, I hated that 2xko turned out to be a tag fighter. 😢 I was so hyped when i got to know we were getting a fighting game in league's universe. Just to be crushed when they disclosed it was going to be a tag fighter. I do wish they eventually release a single character mode later on.
DBFZ is one of the most popular fighters of the past decade. Everyone (should) loves mvc. League IP is super popular. The game is probably gonna be massive.
@@TurnOntheBrightLights. I think it's just having to learn two characters combos, and understanding two of my opponents matchups at the same time, there is also a lack of neutral, and the combos last too long for my taste. So yeah I don't think tag fighters are my thing.
@@christran9160 Yeah i know... that i don't think it would ever beat someone who is just good at tag fighters and controls both. And it also requires one player to not do anything. I feel like they should have come up with an entirely new format if they wanted a true 2v2 experience. Trust me I wanted to like this, but i just don't.
Fighting games are not begginer friendly anyway, might as well go with their vision, im pretty sure they are not expecting valorant numbers outta this game
Untrue. You can always call an assist to cover you while you do whatever you want, unlike 1v1 games. Makes it much easier to understand and execute most strategies at low level play.
Do you think 2XKO will be the next big genre defining fighting game?
No
depends on how they handle it
I hope it's not a wild rift situation
Nah. But it'll probably be good
Nah
Nah... If its going to win a game award... That is robbery
lol I love how Akshon went from an Overwatch channel to a Fighting Game channel! :D
They make a lot of different videos.
More like gaming documentary channel
We like to do a little bit of everything, but fighting games in particular have been something our team universally loves to play
It's really still called Project L in my head
Or we can call it Tuxco if you prefer
Runeterra rumble
Project L is infinitely better than 2xko, honestly
2XKO is an incredibly dumb name but by GOD if it isn't growing on me ngl.
They couldve named it Double Knockout and then used 2xKO just as the logo
Goku + Goku = Cooler Goku caught me off guard lol
I've always wanted to see a Pokemon Tag Fighter. It seems to just fit in lore with 3 vs 3 battles already being a thing in pokemon.
There was a recent Pokemon fighting game called Pokken. I don't know what you would call it, an arena fighter? I played it for a week. The netcode was pretty bad so I dropped it.
@@qianFGC Pokken ain't recent anymore. It's been almost 10 years since the first one was made.
Unless Nintendo plans to throw their hat again in the ring to make a sequel, I doubt it.
@@qianFGC it was literally a tekken clone
@elduritoval5843 Yeah, but there were phases. For example, if the characters were far away from each other, it played more like an arena fighter.
Don't look up Pikachu Mishima!
1:57 Lytheros biggest nightmare. GOKUS.
Love BBTAG a lot, in Montreal we keep this game alive even after all this time. we have the biggest tournaments for it in Canada nowadays
Wait really?! I'm also a Canadian that loves fighting game but I was never aware of us keeping BBTAG alive! (Probably because I am more interested towards tournament from USA like combo breaker or Texas showdown)
@@jeremiegaming3034 Late reply but hey thx and yea bigger bbtag events are in usa of course but we do our best here. We have many vods on Montreal Airdashers channel of weeklies/monthlies/regionals
As long as matchmaking works properly, the depth of tag/assist fighters shouldn't be a problem. Specially with how fun 2v2 already was in the first Alpha.
Hisoutensoku has a tag fighting mod it's really cool
shit I gotta find that now
Ahh yes Fighterz. My favorite party game.
I think Tag Fighters produce a better viewer experience than traditional fighters because tagging inherently introduces a ton of mix-up and outplay potential. Tag fighters being so unbalanced and fast paced means they're great for getting clips to build social media hype.
They're actually worse for viewer experience when it turns into a jumble of incomprehensible explosions and motion blur. If people can't follow what's happening, they won't be interested. It's why other modern fighters like Strive and SF6 have slowed down and added more hit stun to make it easier for viewers (and players) to follow.
Mostly disagree with that
A casual viewer sees a random tag and suddenly 4 characters r all on the screen at once doing different attacks, u don't even know who's who or what team they're in. Its better if u know the game sure but visual clarity always takes a nose dive. Couple that with tag fighters being faster on average than 1v1s it can be difficult to watch
Nice use of Spider Man MVC theme in the background music
Glad you like it
I do understand why they opted for a tag fighter, but I think it would have worked better as a 3v3 one. Just like in LoL, it would have been like having a tank, a support and a damage dealer.
lmao that narrator tag in
I am pretty confident that 2XKO will be a hit within the FGC community but I still have my reservations about its reach extending to players already put off by fighting games. The simple controls was a great start but i worry it’ll be completely overshadowed by being a tag fighter.
What?
@@MegafanX123 what what? Please elaborate on where u are confused.
@@Mr_ViPR What game youre talking about
@@MegafanX123oooooooh 2XKO, my bad.
oh hell yeah Im so excited for nen impact too! A rebirth for tag fighters is upon us!
Actually, Fighter's History Mizoguchi Kiki Ippatsu!!, released on the Super Famicom in 1995 was the first time a fighting game got a tag mode with actual tag mechanics, even before Kizuna Encounter and X-Men vs Street Fighter
I hope the next Pokken is a tag fighter (or at least is more focused on the team aspect)
Here's me still hoping that the unused Tag mode hidden in Mortal Kombat 1 would actually be made playable. I loved the Tag mode in MK9.
Project L doesn't need to limit itself to being a tag fighter for one thing. It has the budget and reach to have both a tag and 1v1 mode. I think it's being safe right now, however
Agreed, anything is possible this early in development.
I am pretty confident that it will be a hit within the FGC community but I still have my reservations about its reach extending to players already put off by fighting games. The simple controls was a great start but i worry it’ll be completely overshadowed by being a tag fighter.
Theres ONE tag fighter mvc2 and theres the rest. Honestly doubt anything will ever approach its level again
i might be wrong but it feels like theres a new editor
No mention of SNK Heroines Tag Team Frenzy? 😞
One day it will get the love it deserves
Once you get used to the fact that you can only knock out the opponent with a Super and take the time to learn the mechanics, you will discover how well thought out the game is
I have seeing japanese pro players doing amazing stuff with the tag system and the items
SNK Heroines is like a fusion of Smash Bros and Marvel vs Capcom
1:41 seeing power rangers being mentioned in 2024 makes me unreasonably happy
(and marvel too ofc)
2xko will probably attract new players, but will fall off due to saltiness of losing over and over.
Like alot of other fighting game does, but probably will be a little more toxic due to the game able to queue with a partner instead of playing alone, and goes with the blame game, like any other cooperative PVP games out there.
None of my friends that's been playing LOL since 2015 wanted to try 2xko because it was too intimidating
As someone who still remembers how I felt when I started to play LOL on my own in 2017, that's wild.
The new player experience got better with time as they updated the shop and the runes, but it's still a mind-boggling undertaking to learn about matchups, items and the strategy around those.
Man i really wish they made fighter z just a normal fighter, it doesn't feel like what you would feel like in a real dragon ball battle.
Thank you for always Shouting Out Skullgirls whenever you can
Goku + Goku = Cooler Goku caught me off guard lol
I'm gonna take you for a ride 🎵
cant be a video about tag fighter mentionning MVC without the ironman infinite tutorial making an appearence
Question for the hive mind: We played Dead or Alive 5 for hours locally - 2v2. If I want to rekindle this set up, what games are good for this?
Still wondering why they didn't just call it "Doublekill" instead of making it sound like some lame 2011 extreme sports game that tries too hard to be "kOoL"
2XKO I thought they could have called it Double Knockout
@@thadex454 that's also fine but Doublekill is a direct reference to League
Ahh yes Fighterz. My favorite party game.
Project L unironically sounds like less of a development code name name than 2XKO to me
Ahri assist was bugged. pretty important to remember that
I’m just sad we’ll never get to see Project Pool Party, Riot’s platform fighter, that was cancelled 💔
I need a new obscure competitive scene pookie
Back in my day we called these hyper fighters
The thing I don't like about some of these fighting games is that the combo counter doesn't stop at 100. I wished all future fighting games made it so the combo counter always stops at 100 (or 99).
Why?
@@k-thesupreme3511 I remember playing Capcom vs. SNK 2, and I was using Training mode to use infinite groove gauges and have it so opponent doesn't die with no health left. I tried the Haohmaru infinite while abusing HP in custom combo mode (A-Groove) and all of a sudden my hit streak just keeps going, until number 100 is displayed and the game locks the combo count at 100 until my combo ends. Same deal with Capcom Fighting Evolution, but I abused Sakura's Shououken in custom combo mode instead.
Also, it would be unrealistic for players to get a 100 hit combo, so locking the combo count at 100 (or 99) would be better.
@@NewGabeOrder unrealistic how?
@@k-thesupreme3511 The timing and execution for those big combos can be very difficult and time consuming.
@@NewGabeOrder specials hit multiple times, it's not like every move ever is just one or two hits
IMO tag fighters with bbtag mechanics of being able to swap characters any time they're on the screen are way too cool. I just don't have th IQ to play them
hoping they handle this one well
Street fighter x tekken: Am I a joke to you?
Core a gamings music bring it back (your core a gameing right ?)
I hope it lets me only choose one character Ala Skullgirls.
Am I the only person on earth who thinks 2xko is a cool name for a 2v2 fighting game?
Not throwing shade but you definitely get the vibe this video took a while to produce because 2XKO's Alpha was over a month ago and the actual current talk of the town is....the new Marvel vs Capcom collection, which wasn't mentioned at all in this video 😅
Power Rangers Battle for the grid yuhhhh!
Would've loved for 2XKO to be a platform-fighter instead. We have too few good of those.
I want a Hunter X Hunter tag fighter 😕
Tekken Tag 2 was the best Tekken game, yet failed so we wont get another...
3:30 Wazzler sighting
I do not think akshon esports should be talking about fighting games unless it’s smash ☠️☠️☠️
Riot should do something about their toxic playerbase before screwing up other genres. I pray everyday for their downfall.
Man, I hated that 2xko turned out to be a tag fighter. 😢 I was so hyped when i got to know we were getting a fighting game in league's universe. Just to be crushed when they disclosed it was going to be a tag fighter. I do wish they eventually release a single character mode later on.
I think 2xko will not bi as big because of the decision to make it a tag fighter
It’s going to be free so it doesn’t matter
Bring free doesn't make it successful. Look at Legends of runeterra for example
DBFZ is one of the most popular fighters of the past decade. Everyone (should) loves mvc. League IP is super popular.
The game is probably gonna be massive.
2xko is still the worst possible name they could have come up with, about on par for riot
Riot?? Making a degenerate game???? Never!!!!!!!
2XKO is going to suck lmao
Honestly in terms of concept it’s very similar to multiversus and i pray they dont follow in their footsteps
Really wish they didn't decide to do a tag fighter. I just can't bring myself to enjoy it.
How come? Not your cup of tea?
@@TurnOntheBrightLights. I think it's just having to learn two characters combos, and understanding two of my opponents matchups at the same time, there is also a lack of neutral, and the combos last too long for my taste. So yeah I don't think tag fighters are my thing.
In 2xko you can have a team with 2 players each controlling a character so in that case you would only need to learn one.
@@christran9160 Yeah i know... that i don't think it would ever beat someone who is just good at tag fighters and controls both. And it also requires one player to not do anything. I feel like they should have come up with an entirely new format if they wanted a true 2v2 experience. Trust me I wanted to like this, but i just don't.
Kusoge is the more chaotic genre…
Kusoge is not a genre that's like saying unfinished games are a genre
When the educational youtuber decides they want to be funny, so they litter the video with annoying and distracting memes
Bring overwatch videos bro😢
is this video really just a 2xko shill? whatever
Lol, do people not know what a "tag fighter" I mean it's in the title
The name "Tag Fighter" doesnt do the justice of covering the assist aspect, and assisting is usually much more important than the tagging part.
Tag fighters are inheritly not beginner friendly, riot was really dumb to make this a tag fighter. Just make a traditional one.
I think they'll have another Legends of runeterra situation with this game
You can LEARN. CRAZY RIGHT
@@Half_Bl00d_H3R0people won't bother to learn when there are so many f2p games where you aren't stuck taking a 20s combo
Fighting games are not begginer friendly anyway, might as well go with their vision, im pretty sure they are not expecting valorant numbers outta this game
Untrue. You can always call an assist to cover you while you do whatever you want, unlike 1v1 games. Makes it much easier to understand and execute most strategies at low level play.
7:30 sauce?
You don't wish to know 😐😐😐😐
not gonna lie, Rui kind of sucks at this
Here's me still hoping that the unused Tag mode hidden in Mortal Kombat 1 would actually be made playable. I loved the Tag mode in MK9.
Man i really wish they made fighter z just a normal fighter, it doesn't feel like what you would feel like in a real dragon ball battle.
Goku + Goku = Cooler Goku caught me off guard lol