I've been playing a lot of the dremacast version on emulator to unlock everybody and I've been playing Magneto Cable with Cap Commando Assist, or Magneto Cable Storm
I normally run team scrub (cable sent commando) but I've been really liking how VDO and Beats have been playing so I want to pick up Dhalsim and Rogue. Might go with commando as a sort of training wheel before I pick sent (converting to switch lite controls is going to be a nightmare)
Yipes is such a funny dude. He's like a walking encyclopedia of knowledge in this game who discovered what, where tech came from, etc. shows that he stills remembers each and everyone of these people. He's right though MVC2 is just unmatched there's nothing like it.
@@Holdbacktoblock I can agree I was only 3 playing at Walmart and the occasional laundry place, but my love for this game never died. It wasn't until 2011 I realized how big the scene was. I'm really hoping with this collection and when some of the issues gets fixed that it becomes the perfect version of MVC2 so maybe we can see it in EVO 2025.
I was watching Max's vid from today and wondered if there's anything out there describing how the meta evolved since the beginning of MvC2. This was exactly what I was looking for. Great video!
While Sentinel was the stronger character, in my experience Cable is the biggest scrub killer by FAR. While he's extremely powerful (Yipes forgot to mention that he also has the highest defense in the game, so he's literally the hardest to kill on top of everything else), Sentinel, if not backed up by Doom or Commando, is nowhere near as threatening to the average team as Cable. And even with one of those two, Cable with Doom is still more dangerous. Cable, more than any other character, forces you to play completely differently, and his screen coverage is such that if your team isn't built to handle it, you basically lost at the character select screen. Cable/Anti-air Assist is the biggest hurdle in this game for new players to overcome. One that 95% of players will never overcome. Cable is like MvC3 Phoenix - your team needs to either be able to deal with Cable, or have Cable on it
I'm an ok Cable player myself and can agree. I've been forcing new players on the MvC collection to run through the Cable/Psylocke gauntlet and it certainly is a struggle for them.
What sentinel has is options. Flight, chip, defense and unfly to name a few. But I can understand cable being a stronger scrub. Everything I mentioned has more application against higher level players. A scrub is going to get wiped by jump back gun throw grenade. So, fair.
@@keiharris332 Jump back HP, throw grenades, call AAA when opponent is close, build up gauge to 3+ levels, then look to fry anything that moves. His base game plan is far simpler and much _much_ easier for average players to understand and execute than the other top tiers, while it takes an order of magnitude more skill and knowledge to overcome. It is simultaneously the scrubbiest thing as well as the biggest scrub killer in MvC2. I guarantee you that the majority of new players will never get good enough to deal with it.
I mean... Not for nothing he's the key character in Team Scrub, so... (Team Scrub, for potential newcomers - Cable to build meter. Hit rainbow, catch em in one Hyper Viper Beam [air or otherwise], DHC into Sentinels drone super to loop his 'infinite'. Season with CapComm's anti-air assist to taste... Or to piss off your opponent to no end. If Cable dies, unfly with sent and be a god)
Woahhh, it's wild Yipes mentioned And1, specifically Hot Sauce, as he was my favorite hooper too. Now I wonder if Hot Sauce inspired me and my love for mixup characters lol Excellent video!
It had the biggest roster in a fighting game for a long time. It was also the first 2d fighting game to have 3d backgrounds. 3 on 3 tag team fighting was first implemented here. And there are so many assists. The music is also timeless. And the way everything comes together is just beautiful. Games today do try it but this game, man, it started a lot of things. That's why to me, it is still one of the greatest fighting games of all time.
really great topics from yipes like everything he said was pure knowledge. kinda nice to see after all the years of competition so many people are willing to share tech.
Yoooo I could listen to FGC legends like Yipes talk about the history of players, tech and matchups from OG games for hours on end. Good shit, please do more of this, hopefully for every game from 3S to ST to cvs2 etc etc
Excellent breakdown for those unfamiliar with the nuts & bolts of MVC2. Been fighting since '91, always loved Marvel and Capcom, but I just never had the means to consistently play the 'VS' series. I always encountered random cabs in the wild. Thank you!
Grew up in Oklahoma so no scenes were here, had to go to Texas most times but not often. It wasn’t til TH-cam I got more exposure but before that I’d be lucky to find a quick time video to download and watch of high level play and attempt to copy it. Lol
Yipes is my absolute favorite commentary person also a kick ass Player with flavor combos very spicy and it's hilarious that this old game is making a comeback after all these years of me playing it exactly at the times yipes was talking about like before TH-cam when finding strategies and stuff was extremely difficult you had to learn yourself and hopefully with friends but I don't see anything new being found because it's still a old unbalanced and not updated game so fun will still be had for kids and newcomers but all the veterans know these certain like 5 or 6 outta 57 are the real deal if you wanna win
You could be that guy! Alot of grinding has been done over the year or so and the meta is in for a surprise. Dhalsim becoming top tier, guile, charlie and adamantium Wolfie moving to solid mid tier and alot of random tech coming from the low tier bracket. There are some crazy stuff, for instance, that a certain japanese gief player is show casing and a combo technician from another game popping up and discovering infinites and one touch combos with a bunch of low tier. It's just time and execution now. Get your popcorn ready
As is with anything, if your odds are better simply by picking better, and you really want to win... you have to go with the better pick. You wouldn't draft a fantasy team with only newcomers.
🔥Awesome video! As someone who is new to playing Marvel vs Capcom 2 this was really interesting to watch. It's cool that Yipes was inspired by And 1 Streeball...I used to love those VHS tapes. It's crazy that MvC2 came out before fighting games were really popular on the competitive scene so its so unbalanced (Came out before balance patches and online).
Great damn channel as usual. Team games aren't my thing but u love watching them. I hope new blood wherever they are, can bring something new like you said into the mix.
The GameFAQs forum for MvC2 Dreamcast was a major contrast between people who were just enjoying beating up the computer (me) and people who were there to be competitive, and the latter were very no-fun-allowed types promoting the big four and every other character was trash. It put me off 2D fighters for a bit.
I had a whole section in here about the characters like Iron Man that are emerging in the meta but it wasn't meaty enough. Might do another video in the future focusing on those characters (there was some Dhalsim talk too)!
Ironman meta has never changed, he is a one touch character. Easy infinite, easy guard break, easy 100%, too easy he is boring to play with and against. Good thing his movement and speed isn't that great, nor is his DHC and assist options or the game will be full of IM players from scrub to pro levels. IM feels like a X-Men vs SF character than it is a MvC2 character.
@@Holdbacktoblockliteral god tier character now. There is alot to discover honestly. Watch what happens to shuma, wolverine, dhalsim, charlie, guile, silver Samurai and gief.
oh boy I am going to sound old. Back in the day in the arcades in Tampa Lanes Bowling alley (if you know you know) there was an unspoken rule to only play with ONE of the four gods. After YEARS of playing the game that way, i will always play Cable/Cyclops/Capt. Commando. playing this way also allowed for some real fun and cool teams like Sentinel/Strider/Doom and Storm/BB Hood/Juggernaut. it a fun fucking game and to think when it first came out, people did not like it.
I believe that MVC2 had one of the first sponsored players. Could be dead wrong. Most likely a FPS had it first. But man oh man. Yipes is like our Jon Madden.
they were only restrained to have so many popular game picks, they managed to keep sentinel but couldn't included jaugaurnut. tbf she wasn't known in terms of just marvel media at the time in fact Emma Frost had more stuff going on at the time and was nearly going to be in 3 herself before being switched out for Phoenix who was even more known because of the movies
@@1upLeviathan yes, they were always thought of adding in a telepath and marvel last min suggested phoenix and capcom got interested with the idea and they went with that instead
I would love a point based character tier selection mode for online. Each character is placed in a tier based on how strong they are. Each tier has a numerical based grading. When selecting a character, you have a limitation on points, so you can just pick MSS or something like that. There's not enough points. It makes for much more interesting match ups.
I'd much rather them eliminate the things that make the top tiers broken. No infinites or guard breaks, and hard limit on how long any character can fly.
I’m glad they fixed these bugs for the collection. However, I’ve still been stomped by Magneto, Storm and Sentinel. If anyone has some team advice, I’ll hear you out (my current team is Gambit, Cyclops and Cable)
I started with gambit too but he doesn't cut it against higher tier characters. Sent second and cyclops last is a great idea. Now you just need a point character. I would suggest cable to start since he is easy to learn and is so dang strong.
@@keiharris332aaaaand that's Team Scrubclops! (Swap out Scott for CapComm-AA and you get the og Team Scrub) But yeah, for any notoriously fast rush down (mss, msp), gambit won't be good point. Gambit REALLY shines with his super late hitting projectile assist. That beast catches people off guard really well. Great for starting a combo... But outside of assist, he's rush down fodder. Been working with him a bit, and... He's awkward
I stated in the last about probably dropping gambit from the mix.... This'll sound weird, but Anakaris, cyckes and cable could be a LOT of fun Anakaris is a floatly mfer but can pack a wallop. Having AA assist of Summers and Cable could really spice things up. And when the mummy's permanently burried, swap to zoning with cable on point or full rush down with cyclops, both having a dangerous AA defense to back em up
I remember the days when Cable, Hood, and Juggernaut ruled the South Florida arcade scene. MvC2 and DDR were literally the most hype and sweatiest arcade games of all time.
I haven't played in forever but I used to run Ruby/Jill/Cyclops. Though I'd likely play Ruby/Iron Man/Doom nowadays to lean more into Ruby's meter build and chip setups. I think you're going to be seeing a lot of lesser played characters early on but ultimately people are going to play what's good(by which I use the term loosely since there's like 30 characters in C and above which is over half of the 56 total)
I was introduced to the Magneto, Psylocke, Storm team by some pro when I first started playing Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 arcade in high school....I was the victim of a slaughter fest...oddly enough, not only that I was introduced to the pro level of MVC2 AS a beginner, but I kept playing these guys in hopes to beat them. But, as you can guess, I NEVER beat the pros that SLAUGHTERED me. I've learned a lot since and I'd like to perfect my skills in MVC2 asap! Otherwise I'll relive a trauma by another pro again.😅
My top tiers are MSP but i'm not that good with em, my main team is Jill/Storm/Cyclops, it's too fun man and dude at the end i was just listening to yipes you know and thought there was a lot more and then it cut, jesus man, this was such a great video
I can see it both ways. But first things first, never $hit on what someone decides to play. It's all legal. Further more, forcing players out of groups because people want to play low tier is lame AF. Learn both.
@@cooltron I dunno man. I'm a big fan of players like cl0ckwork and VDO. I believe. But I also understand the reality. As a side note, t hawk in super turbo was considered useless for over a decade till his tick throw was discovered. Now he's too tier. Let em dream. But don't let em dictate what is "fair" ;)
I personally think its certainly possible that we could see an upset in the character hierarchy considering that a lot of fresh eyes are gonna be on Marvel 2 with this collection. Even ones that maybe weren't alive when the game came out originally.
@@miquebtsthere is a ton of tech you can witness right now on player pages you haven't even heard of. From chaos dimension to double wolverine to gief being viable. Not everyone playing is new blood ;)
Yeah 99% of new players will get bodied out of ever entering the higher echelon of MVC2 competitive but the few that are willing to put in the time, blood, sweat, and tears to catch up will hopefully contribute to shake things up moving forward
I literally stood behind these guys for like 15 years but i still learned something new today I always thought the cable assist was good but holy shit man. he really does just erase assists.
I was lucky enough to snag a copy for the Dreamcast, gosh, almost 25 years ago by now. My buddies and I would play it to death. All-nighters with Mountain Dew stuff. When I was taking my Dreamcast to college, and they'd beg me to leave it behind for them to play with, just because of MvC2.
Playing online as a casual of MVC2, it’s like when I see someone picking MSP I just go “Well, I lost.” 🤣 but at least most people are fun to play against.
What team are you rocking in MvC2 and after this video, are you going to try to learn any of these characters?
Clockwork forever bay bee
I've been playing a lot of the dremacast version on emulator to unlock everybody and I've been playing Magneto Cable with Cap Commando Assist, or Magneto Cable Storm
I normally run team scrub (cable sent commando) but I've been really liking how VDO and Beats have been playing so I want to pick up Dhalsim and Rogue. Might go with commando as a sort of training wheel before I pick sent (converting to switch lite controls is going to be a nightmare)
Me too! Well, kind of- Strider/Doom/Cyclops
Team No Chance for me: Both Wolverines and Sabretooth😂😂😂
Yipes having flashbacks to Justin running away is cracking me up lol
I've played Justin once and I totally understand
Legend says Justin still running away lol
I have to wonder whether Justin ever seriously played Virtua Fighter: 30 seconds (or 45 seconds, depending on the era), high damage, and ring outs.
I literally ctfu when he said that 🤣🤣🤣
Insane mvc2 combos
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I could listen to Yipes talk for days. Absolute GOAT commentator and player
Yipes and Jwong reminiscing on Marvel 2 Golden Era will never get old.
8:34 Shout outs to preppy, Keeper of the MVC2 footage vault. The Historian. And he is always cool with you using his footage!
PReppy is a god. We need more folks like them in the scene
Yipes is such a funny dude.
He's like a walking encyclopedia of knowledge in this game who discovered what, where tech came from, etc. shows that he stills remembers each and everyone of these people.
He's right though MVC2 is just unmatched there's nothing like it.
MvC2 was so important to the FGC in the early days. It was THE game, so I'm happy folks like Yipes retained that knowledge to share with folks today.
@@Holdbacktoblock I can agree I was only 3 playing at Walmart and the occasional laundry place, but my love for this game never died. It wasn't until 2011 I realized how big the scene was.
I'm really hoping with this collection and when some of the issues gets fixed that it becomes the perfect version of MVC2 so maybe we can see it in EVO 2025.
"Well Yipes, thats my fucking job" I started howling in my house.
13:38
Great vid!!!
Thanks dude!
GuileWinQuote? Big fan here
When’s marvel !!!!!!!!
@@CaptianChito EVERYDAY BROTHERRR
I was watching Max's vid from today and wondered if there's anything out there describing how the meta evolved since the beginning of MvC2. This was exactly what I was looking for. Great video!
The simultaneous professionalism and laid back attitude of this video represents mvc2 so well. Great job!
Amazing video my son Yipes needs to do more of these joints for real. Well done guys I say bring in Chris Matrix next
I'd love to talk to Matrix if I ever dive deeper for sure
While Sentinel was the stronger character, in my experience Cable is the biggest scrub killer by FAR.
While he's extremely powerful (Yipes forgot to mention that he also has the highest defense in the game, so he's literally the hardest to kill on top of everything else), Sentinel, if not backed up by Doom or Commando, is nowhere near as threatening to the average team as Cable. And even with one of those two, Cable with Doom is still more dangerous. Cable, more than any other character, forces you to play completely differently, and his screen coverage is such that if your team isn't built to handle it, you basically lost at the character select screen.
Cable/Anti-air Assist is the biggest hurdle in this game for new players to overcome. One that 95% of players will never overcome. Cable is like MvC3 Phoenix - your team needs to either be able to deal with Cable, or have Cable on it
I'm an ok Cable player myself and can agree. I've been forcing new players on the MvC collection to run through the Cable/Psylocke gauntlet and it certainly is a struggle for them.
What sentinel has is options. Flight, chip, defense and unfly to name a few. But I can understand cable being a stronger scrub. Everything I mentioned has more application against higher level players. A scrub is going to get wiped by jump back gun throw grenade. So, fair.
@@keiharris332 Jump back HP, throw grenades, call AAA when opponent is close, build up gauge to 3+ levels, then look to fry anything that moves. His base game plan is far simpler and much _much_ easier for average players to understand and execute than the other top tiers, while it takes an order of magnitude more skill and knowledge to overcome.
It is simultaneously the scrubbiest thing as well as the biggest scrub killer in MvC2. I guarantee you that the majority of new players will never get good enough to deal with it.
I mean... Not for nothing he's the key character in Team Scrub, so...
(Team Scrub, for potential newcomers - Cable to build meter. Hit rainbow, catch em in one Hyper Viper Beam [air or otherwise], DHC into Sentinels drone super to loop his 'infinite'. Season with CapComm's anti-air assist to taste... Or to piss off your opponent to no end. If Cable dies, unfly with sent and be a god)
Mainly because of jump super and guard break. If guard break wasn't in the game, he'd actually be tolerable.
Yipes is one of the best commentary on MvC, the icing on the cake on this was vid was amazing
This coulda been a 2 hour uncut video of Yipes just reminiscing about MvC2 history and I'd still be glued to the screen. Great vid
Maybe we'll do that one day!
Woahhh, it's wild Yipes mentioned And1, specifically Hot Sauce, as he was my favorite hooper too. Now I wonder if Hot Sauce inspired me and my love for mixup characters lol Excellent video!
It had the biggest roster in a fighting game for a long time. It was also the first 2d fighting game to have 3d backgrounds. 3 on 3 tag team fighting was first implemented here. And there are so many assists. The music is also timeless. And the way everything comes together is just beautiful. Games today do try it but this game, man, it started a lot of things.
That's why to me, it is still one of the greatest fighting games of all time.
really great topics from yipes like everything he said was pure knowledge. kinda nice to see after all the years of competition so many people are willing to share tech.
A team I always used was Strider, Jin and Hayato which I viewed as a glass cannon, high risk, high reward team
Multiversal varients of Team Shoto 😂
Thank you for this wonderful trip down memory lane with Yipes!
I've always wanted to hear stories like this thank you
Phenomenal work! Marvel lives (despite the Storm j.HP PTSD), can't wait for the next game/scene you highlight here!
I honestly miss hearing that everytime I walk into a bowling Alley/Arcade
GREAT VID! Just watched this on the Twitch Rivals VOD.
Yoooo I could listen to FGC legends like Yipes talk about the history of players, tech and matchups from OG games for hours on end. Good shit, please do more of this, hopefully for every game from 3S to ST to cvs2 etc etc
I'm fairly good at fighting games, but you guys here take this fighting game genre that I love to a whole nothing level; this is awesome 😮
Excellent breakdown for those unfamiliar with the nuts & bolts of MVC2. Been fighting since '91, always loved Marvel and Capcom, but I just never had the means to consistently play the 'VS' series. I always encountered random cabs in the wild. Thank you!
Always hyped when Hold Back to Block posts a video. Thank you for the dope content.
Thanks for watching. More to come soon!
@@Holdbacktoblock I will be there. Your content is inspiring. Gives me new ideas for my own channel.
Grew up in Oklahoma so no scenes were here, had to go to Texas most times but not often. It wasn’t til TH-cam I got more exposure but before that I’d be lucky to find a quick time video to download and watch of high level play and attempt to copy it. Lol
Yipes is my absolute favorite commentary person also a kick ass Player with flavor combos very spicy and it's hilarious that this old game is making a comeback after all these years of me playing it exactly at the times yipes was talking about like before TH-cam when finding strategies and stuff was extremely difficult you had to learn yourself and hopefully with friends but I don't see anything new being found because it's still a old unbalanced and not updated game so fun will still be had for kids and newcomers but all the veterans know these certain like 5 or 6 outta 57 are the real deal if you wanna win
Great vid. All those characters but so few used at top level.
You could be that guy! Alot of grinding has been done over the year or so and the meta is in for a surprise. Dhalsim becoming top tier, guile, charlie and adamantium Wolfie moving to solid mid tier and alot of random tech coming from the low tier bracket. There are some crazy stuff, for instance, that a certain japanese gief player is show casing and a combo technician from another game popping up and discovering infinites and one touch combos with a bunch of low tier.
It's just time and execution now. Get your popcorn ready
As is with anything, if your odds are better simply by picking better, and you really want to win... you have to go with the better pick. You wouldn't draft a fantasy team with only newcomers.
This was awesome! I love hearing historical breakdowns and retrospectives of how a meta evolves during a game's lifespan!
🔥Awesome video! As someone who is new to playing Marvel vs Capcom 2 this was really interesting to watch. It's cool that Yipes was inspired by And 1 Streeball...I used to love those VHS tapes. It's crazy that MvC2 came out before fighting games were really popular on the competitive scene so its so unbalanced (Came out before balance patches and online).
Great damn channel as usual. Team games aren't my thing but u love watching them. I hope new blood wherever they are, can bring something new like you said into the mix.
This was a amazing interview and editing.
Love yipes to death and thank you guys for this video!
Teacher be like yall 3 separate right now!
Hahaha 😂😂😂
The GameFAQs forum for MvC2 Dreamcast was a major contrast between people who were just enjoying beating up the computer (me) and people who were there to be competitive, and the latter were very no-fun-allowed types promoting the big four and every other character was trash. It put me off 2D fighters for a bit.
Excellent video idea and great interview.
Great content man ❤
Thank you!
@@Holdbacktoblock hope to see more
We are all Yipes here, reminiscing those arcade days decades ago.
I'm here from the rerelease, never played the original
You forgot Iron Man! He's been doing really well these past years!
I had a whole section in here about the characters like Iron Man that are emerging in the meta but it wasn't meaty enough. Might do another video in the future focusing on those characters (there was some Dhalsim talk too)!
Ironman meta has never changed, he is a one touch character. Easy infinite, easy guard break, easy 100%, too easy he is boring to play with and against. Good thing his movement and speed isn't that great, nor is his DHC and assist options or the game will be full of IM players from scrub to pro levels. IM feels like a X-Men vs SF character than it is a MvC2 character.
@@Holdbacktoblockliteral god tier character now. There is alot to discover honestly. Watch what happens to shuma, wolverine, dhalsim, charlie, guile, silver Samurai and gief.
These videos always kick ass. Yipes with the nostalgia
awesome video. Great history lesson on MvC2
Amazing interview!
It’s so fun to watch non popular characters vs non popular characters
this was soooo goood
Thank you so much!
Insanely underrated video.
oh boy I am going to sound old. Back in the day in the arcades in Tampa Lanes Bowling alley (if you know you know) there was an unspoken rule to only play with ONE of the four gods. After YEARS of playing the game that way, i will always play Cable/Cyclops/Capt. Commando. playing this way also allowed for some real fun and cool teams like Sentinel/Strider/Doom and Storm/BB Hood/Juggernaut. it a fun fucking game and to think when it first came out, people did not like it.
Ya'll were rocking with ratio rules back then, nice :)
@@haydenfisher1387 we fucking with the big teams on the DreamCast but we HAD to respect the quarters. we were all broke but loves the arcade.
@@haydenfisher1387 funny you mention the "Ratio" system. Capcom vs SNK 1 was more popular than CVS 2 because of the ratio system.
@@Tseuq4gninaem? Cvs2 has ratio mode too
Great interview
I feel influenced by this man.
Don't make me tap the shirt
thanks for this video! documenting MVC2 History is the same as documenting FGC, and esports on the west, history
Hope to do more in the future. Love me some MvC2!
I believe that MVC2 had one of the first sponsored players. Could be dead wrong. Most likely a FPS had it first.
But man oh man. Yipes is like our Jon Madden.
fantastic video
Good stuff as always.
Thanks dude! Hope to see you around sometime soon!
Hell yeah Yipes with the Seattle og shoutouts!
Great video, loved it! please do more mvc2!
Awesome commentary! Great vid!
The Mvc3 development team actually said Psylocke wasn't popular to be added into the roster. 😠
Nonsense!
they were only restrained to have so many popular game picks, they managed to keep sentinel but couldn't included jaugaurnut. tbf she wasn't known in terms of just marvel media at the time in fact Emma Frost had more stuff going on at the time and was nearly going to be in 3 herself before being switched out for Phoenix who was even more known because of the movies
@@nightwish1453 Wait Emma almost got in Mvc3?
@@1upLeviathan yes, they were always thought of adding in a telepath and marvel last min suggested phoenix and capcom got interested with the idea and they went with that instead
Awesome video, subscribed
This'll definitely open a ton of new eyes to the Insanity known as Mahvel 2
I would love a point based character tier selection mode for online.
Each character is placed in a tier based on how strong they are. Each tier has a numerical based grading. When selecting a character, you have a limitation on points, so you can just pick MSS or something like that. There's not enough points.
It makes for much more interesting match ups.
I'd much rather them eliminate the things that make the top tiers broken. No infinites or guard breaks, and hard limit on how long any character can fly.
@@Arctanis-vt3hlThat makes for a boring, homogonous game.
awesome vid, man I love yipes.
Newer generations will not understand how insane the scene was back then
I’m glad they fixed these bugs for the collection. However, I’ve still been stomped by Magneto, Storm and Sentinel.
If anyone has some team advice, I’ll hear you out (my current team is Gambit, Cyclops and Cable)
I started with gambit too but he doesn't cut it against higher tier characters. Sent second and cyclops last is a great idea. Now you just need a point character. I would suggest cable to start since he is easy to learn and is so dang strong.
@@keiharris332aaaaand that's Team Scrubclops! (Swap out Scott for CapComm-AA and you get the og Team Scrub)
But yeah, for any notoriously fast rush down (mss, msp), gambit won't be good point. Gambit REALLY shines with his super late hitting projectile assist. That beast catches people off guard really well. Great for starting a combo... But outside of assist, he's rush down fodder. Been working with him a bit, and... He's awkward
I stated in the last about probably dropping gambit from the mix.... This'll sound weird, but Anakaris, cyckes and cable could be a LOT of fun
Anakaris is a floatly mfer but can pack a wallop. Having AA assist of Summers and Cable could really spice things up. And when the mummy's permanently burried, swap to zoning with cable on point or full rush down with cyclops, both having a dangerous AA defense to back em up
I remember the days when Cable, Hood, and Juggernaut ruled the South Florida arcade scene. MvC2 and DDR were literally the most hype and sweatiest arcade games of all time.
Good video with the great Yipes
Awesome vid😊
Great video! Cool to learn the history of these games.
I haven't played in forever but I used to run Ruby/Jill/Cyclops. Though I'd likely play Ruby/Iron Man/Doom nowadays to lean more into Ruby's meter build and chip setups. I think you're going to be seeing a lot of lesser played characters early on but ultimately people are going to play what's good(by which I use the term loosely since there's like 30 characters in C and above which is over half of the 56 total)
great stuff
Thanks this was sick🎉
I think that as people play with the unofficial 7 point tier ratio style, new tech will be found for characters outside of the top few.
I was introduced to the Magneto, Psylocke, Storm team by some pro when I first started playing Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 arcade in high school....I was the victim of a slaughter fest...oddly enough, not only that I was introduced to the pro level of MVC2 AS a beginner, but I kept playing these guys in hopes to beat them. But, as you can guess, I NEVER beat the pros that SLAUGHTERED me. I've learned a lot since and I'd like to perfect my skills in MVC2 asap! Otherwise I'll relive a trauma by another pro again.😅
My top tiers are MSP but i'm not that good with em, my main team is Jill/Storm/Cyclops, it's too fun man and dude at the end i was just listening to yipes you know and thought there was a lot more and then it cut, jesus man, this was such a great video
I need a marvel 2 docuseries like melee did with its pro players! Let’s goooooo!
Wait a minute, all the top tiers are Marvel characters
I love Ryu, but he ain't laying a finger on Magneto
Yeah, it's not really a balanced game.
We don't call it Capcom, we call it Marvel 🤣🤣🤣
Not just all Marvel characters, but they’re also all X-Men characters.
@@xXPKRJXxwhen’s Mahvel? Mahvel baby
So many great moves and combos! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
I don't think any other fighting game's played more then MvsC2 to this day!
Low to mid tier fights are so much more fun imo
You’re the minority just fyi
I can see it both ways. But first things first, never $hit on what someone decides to play. It's all legal. Further more, forcing players out of groups because people want to play low tier is lame AF. Learn both.
@@keiharris332 people can play whatever they want. They just won’t win a lot.
@@cooltron I dunno man. I'm a big fan of players like cl0ckwork and VDO. I believe. But I also understand the reality. As a side note, t hawk in super turbo was considered useless for over a decade till his tick throw was discovered. Now he's too tier. Let em dream. But don't let em dictate what is "fair" ;)
@@cooltron Not at all- I second that.
Shout outs to khaos for using his shuma team in a tournament 💪🏾💪🏾
Shuma dope af too
I personally think its certainly possible that we could see an upset in the character hierarchy considering that a lot of fresh eyes are gonna be on Marvel 2 with this collection. Even ones that maybe weren't alive when the game came out originally.
Modern players needs a button to do supers and combos! For sure they're gonna revolution the game! Suuuure buddy!
@@miquebtsthere is a ton of tech you can witness right now on player pages you haven't even heard of. From chaos dimension to double wolverine to gief being viable. Not everyone playing is new blood ;)
Yeah 99% of new players will get bodied out of ever entering the higher echelon of MVC2 competitive but the few that are willing to put in the time, blood, sweat, and tears to catch up will hopefully contribute to shake things up moving forward
"...but he runs, a lot.... A... LOT!...OD!!!" -yipes
This was a dope ass video :)
Crazy how complex this game is at the highest level.
I literally stood behind these guys for like 15 years but i still learned something new today I always thought the cable assist was good but holy shit man. he really does just erase assists.
Coming from you, that's an honor. Glad the video showed you something new!
@@Holdbacktoblock Man im surprised anyone even knows who i am. lol.
Yipes’ famous MARVEL BABY video is what made me aware of the FGC to begin with
Justin couldn't make it to be interview 'cause we've received word that he still runnin'
Gonna be fun seeing how nuts this game can get now!
I was lucky enough to snag a copy for the Dreamcast, gosh, almost 25 years ago by now. My buddies and I would play it to death. All-nighters with Mountain Dew stuff. When I was taking my Dreamcast to college, and they'd beg me to leave it behind for them to play with, just because of MvC2.
Yipes is the best commentator IN ANY GENRE.
They are called the gods for a reason. Fresh eyes can’t see the matrix code that this game really is.
Good shit.
After watching Marvel for over 20 years, seeing 4:12 actually made me bust out. Awesome vid.
Great vid.
Question: why were some main characters like 'Chun Li' for example, nerfed, and others buffed?
History lesson and into to the game. Hype
I’m seeing people trying to break Gambit. If I had to bet which character will rise tiers due to the collection, it would be on him.
It is the boy, IF Cypes! (if you know you know).
It’s Mahvel Baby! HEHHA
Jadakiss X Yipes
@@PaygunFGC @reclaimer8947 seems we got some winners lol.
Marvel vs. Capcom is back with a vengeance.
Playing online as a casual of MVC2, it’s like when I see someone picking MSP I just go “Well, I lost.” 🤣 but at least most people are fun to play against.
team cl0ckw0rk baby
Orbs all day
This vid is boss info!
Mag has that netcode on lock (because of his speed), he is not going anywhere
YIPES??!??!!?!? BOYYY ITS MAHVEL BABY in 2024 :)))
WE're so BACKKKK