Yamaha Bolt vs Harley Sportster 883 Drag Race
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- Kyle Bradshaw of www.cruisercust... and Chucky of www.lachoppers.... put the new Yamaha Bolt 950 up against and American legend, the 883 Harley Davidson Sportster. Check out some our awesome bolt accessories at
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These comments are pathetic. Theyre bikes people. This isnt politics! Buy and ride what you like.
Only sensible comments I've seen in this entire section.
Yep, well said.
It's funny reading these comments about speed when neither of these bikes were built for speed. Heck, take a Harley or Yamaha 1200 cc cruiser and put it up against a 600 cc sport bike and the 600 wins every time. A bike is only as good as its intended purpose. Stop making either of these out as "fast" bikes - especially that little 883.
Well at least when the harley's not in the shop. Lol
I just test rode the Bolt today and loved it! Lightweight, low seat height and well balanced. I took it right up to the Interstate and even without a windshield, it was a dream at 70 mph. Shifts smoothly with plenty of power and very little vibration. Sweet!
do you touch left cylinder with your leg/knee like this guy at the beginning of this video?? seems like you can burn your leg .....
@@Voltomess Yeah you have to watch out for that, you'll start to feel the heat and notice you're burning yourself if you don't spread your legs
The Bolt is no doubt faster but the Harley rider looked better getting there Thanks for the Video
+Richard Luebbe that 883 is a girls bike!!!! ha ha
I ride an Ultra Classic myself and I do agree that the883 is a girls bike a sportster 1200 is much faster but no bigger in size
Richard Luebbe i think the frame on the 883 and 1200 are the same size..
+Richard Luebbe Anyone who says Sportster are girls bikes dont ride or just ride on perfect days or just dont know squat about bikes and their history. Way to show your ignorance. BTW, my Sporty would make your old lady like to like it has training wheels. Then you could tell all your RUB friends how you got beat by a girl.
I did not say sporty are girls bikes I said 883's are and I meant or should have said they do not have the power and vibrate more than a big twin. They are in my opinion not meant for the long ride but they make great 7-11 hoppers for anyone.
I like the harleys subtler design, and with the harley you always have the option of a 1200 conversion. I know harleys are outdated in their design but that's part of the reason why I think their cool. Not the chromed out ones with the restrictive fish tail exhaust tips but the more classic looking ones.
I like the looks of the bike but I'd prefer it with less chrome and more black for the forks and cylinder jugs like the original. I also prefer the 53 style headlight.
Harleys aren't outdated, in their design. They stick, to their style, but have had some obvious changes. Also, fishtail pipes are classic pipes. All the stock pipes are restrictive. They're both good bikes and the Sportster does have the 1200 conversion advantage, which I plan, to get done, to mine. The bolt is something I'd consider, for a bike, to buy, but it does seem like the designers were trying to hard, to make it simplified.
wolfattack402000 $20K bike vs a $8k one. yea, smart. lol
AmericanBiker5150 It's a bobber, so yes, simplified. The Sportster is Harley's stylized version of a bobber. And their 45-degree single-crank pin engine is outdated.
The Bolt has virtually ZERO resale value; just like the Kawasaki Vulcan and the Suzuki C 50.
Why would you compare a 13 year old carbureted Sportster against a brand new Bolt? If you cant get your hands on an Iron at least find an 883 that is fuel injected. The Bolt will still probably win but at least it would be a legitimate comparison.
+Richard Turner , That Sportster 883 is like my bike. Its a wonder if the carb is fouled from just sitting, 1,000 isn't even broken in yet.
Harley Davidson is the Apple inc. of motorcycles. Enjoy your brand name.
+papersplease Do you even ride?
steher i ride man, an he is right just suck it
You ride a gay ass Honda Nighthawk. What did you pay for that, $500 for that turd?
And Yamaha is Samsung 🤣. Samsung is #1 in rank world
@@markrxz samsung is only #1 due to the best phones being banned in the west
Love the 'RESLUT' every run!
So the Harley wanna be with EFI was slightly faster then the 13 year old legend. ... Check back with me in 2 years when both are for sale. The Yamaha won't be worth dick while the Harley will still hold value and will sell much faster simply because people want to own a Harley.
Yeah, .. OKay. You should buy one then. .. and when you decide to sell it or trade it in, let me know how that goes. .. Good luck. ..
Where I am from (Northern Europe) a 2000 year model 1200 sportster is woth less than my bike, which is 1997 and 800 cc, and guess what I chose... My point is that Harley is just a brand that sells and an archaic design that sucks. There is the rest of the world, it's not just your cosy murrica with repair shops on every corner. But sure, you can ride what you want. I'm just saying that you ride on an archaic motorcycle while you could buy better. Also being butthurt because of that is funny from you.
Also funny how across Europe and Russia you can buy a brand new Harley from a Harley Dealership that is not latest year model. Those bikes stack up, I've seen 2002 year models even, people actually know what they want in here, I'm happy to see that not everyone here is consumed by the bad boy image. Which is obviously fake.
My friend, I completely agree about Harley being old technology. For the most part, they have been using the same old technology for 60 years! I also agree there are other manufacturers that offer more up to date engne technology (Victory for example) that make more power. I choose to ride a Harley because of the sound, the way it feels and for the history that goes along with it. I think most HD riders feel that way. As far as the technology, "If it aint broke, don't fix it". With HD you know exactly what you are getting. Like it or not, it's always going to be the same. ... I don't have a "Harley or nothing" attitude but I don't think there is anything else out there like a Harley. .. I'm looking to buy another bike this spring and I am strongly considering buying a Triumph. One of the reasons is because of the history that comes along with the badge on the tank just like it does with Harley. ... It's all good.
I really enjoy eating Pork with my Rice...BTW...I didn't buy my bike to sell it....while your over-polished bike sits in your garage to preserve your low mileage for resale, I am out there piling up all those miles with a big smile on my face...
What made Harley an icon was that it was cheap and easy to chop / modify when guys were coming back from Nam and getting together to ride stateside. Half (or more) of the bike manufacturers today didn't even exist then, or their products were not available in the US at least. People think Harley is "the shit" just because they don't understand what MADE Harleys what they were, which they no longer ARE. Learn some history of bikes in the late 60's early 70's. Most guys I know who've owned a Harley have cussed them more than they've ridden them because they cost so much and yet spend so much time in the shop. If you wanna ride a Harley, fine, go for it... Just get off your high horses about those of us who ride something else. there is SUPPOSED to be a brotherhood among riders, not just among Harley owners. A nice ride is a nice ride, and the brand name only means something to trendies who wanna show off the size of their wallets.
D. Allen Martin Well said. HD has prestige because they're still in business and Indian, Crocker, Henderson etc. are not. They have always had a slick marketing machine and sold Americans on an image.
Not nam..it was world war 2
D. Allen Martin Honda and Yamaha have both been in the US since the late 50's.
James N And you think anyone in the US who rode with club wanted one at that point in time, given the pro-"Made in America" mindset, not to mention foreign relations with Japan? Again, look at the bike designs they were putting out, costs, accessibility of parts, the fact that Metric was EXTREMELY unpopular in those days, and the ease of modification (ability to turn them into decent looking choppers) compared to Harleys in the 60's. Metric bikes today are a lot easier to customize, cheaper, often more reliable, and just as good as a Harley in every way to anyone who doesn't worship the name Harley.
D. Allen Martin I was pointing out a fact they've been in the United States that long, not who rode what and not their popularity or design.
Those are nice bikes. Oddly enough I can't find any videos on TH-cam of Victory racing Yamaha. Either way, be it American made or the foreign market Harley is being left behind performance wise. It may be time they stop relying on name brand recognition and start putting some money into their Research and Development department.
Well that was a terrible comparison. The difference between a 2001 and a 2004-up 883 is worlds apart (very different bikes). I've got an idea, lets race an 82 Mustang (with only 5k on it) against a 2015 Camaro. Sounds fair right?Wonder why they didn't use a comparable bike?
+oldcratch because when you want to copy and cut into a market held by Harley davidson, you will do anything to try and sway buyers. Even unfair comparisons such as this one, the japanese know no shame. The problem with the japanese is they dont recognize a styling that is endless, they constantly change.
Desmo Valve lol. Oh I know, I just felt like pointing out the complete and utter fallacy of this comparison. They try and try, but just don't (and may never) get it.
That Yamaha gets on it but I still love my 883
no, just bigger cylinders and pistons, the biggest to be safe without machining the cases. The nrhsperformance is making the kit.With heads, cams and bigger carb you can past 120rwhp mark.
Its clear which one looks better, The original of course.
Both the Yamaha Bolt and Harley Davidson 883 cost about the same when purchased new. However, I will go with the Harley Sportster for two main reasons. Better resale value and tons more after-market goodies!
Also, in 10 years the parts will still be available at the local dealer, and they will still repair them. Our local Japanese shops won't touch a bike over 10 years old but local Harley shops will repair 30+ year old bikes.
I love my 2005 1200 Sportster. Even though its in my garage in pieces. With less than 7 thousand miles on it the engine sprocket nut came loose and ruined the splines on the crank shaft assembly. It will be a very very expensive repair. So much for Harley factory workmanship and factory quality control. You take a chance when you buy a Harley. I'm keeping my Harley but am buying a new Yamaha Bolt in the spring so I have a bike to ride that I can count on. Some day I'll fix my Harley. Maybe.
7K miles... how sad is that?
I have the eagle 1200 kit, N-4 cams, 883 gears, dyno tuned CV 40mm, and a Thunderheader.
Lot of butt hurt HD owners trying to defend their archaic tractors. So what if someone's made a bike that looks like a sportster, not everyone wants to ride a chrome covered rattling bucket of bolts. May be HD should take the hint and start producing more efficient, more reliable bikes.
Ben 1022 the new fuel injected air cooled 883 and 1200 are extremely reliable. They don’t leak oil, they don’t need valve adjustments. The EFI 883 makes 1 more hp then the bolt and like 20 more hp then this old 01 883, although the bolt makes like 10 more ft lbs of torque then the newer EFI 883’s. Acceleration is identical.
I look at this by Yamaha and it looks like a Harley. As it is said, imitation is the best form of flattery. I think with the Motor Company's 110 year history and the Sportster line of 55+ years, I don't think a drag race in a parking lot proves anything. The Yammy Hoppy has a new engine and the 883 has been around for awhile. My dollar would be spent at a HD dealer before I would spend it on a bike that might not be around in 3 yrs
@Vanrocco thanks for your comment. You are one of those that makes sense. But you have to agree, well you don't have to but most HD people are like cult members. I was watching a movie called children of sorrow. Watch that movie and dig where I am coming from. Some people can be talked into anything and if you speak in the right manner you got them hooked.
I just don't understand what the problem is with being "hooked" on a particular brand of anything? Most of us have our favorite sports teams and if we are true fans we don't change our allegiance do we? To me, it's just jealousy plain and simple. For some reason some people just like to rebel against certain brands or the people who support them. I have to say though, it's usually Europeans that like to find fault with American classics. Not sure why, so once again I'll just assume it's jealousy. Here in America most of us have our favorite brand of automobiles, motorcycles, sports teams, beer, tools, ..etc. I guess people in Europe don't understand that way of thinking so they express their displeasure with this in the form of jealousy. ...
Vanrocco66 No jealousy man, it just that the real classics like Indian are forgotten, classics that actually made history, like the story of Burt Munro, or v-twins that this company invented, and they were first in America who made motorcycles. And what does harley have? No one ever could explain me why harley is soooo legendary, but everyone believes in it. It's like Iphone, every one wants it, but it is overpriced, it's performance is not that fantastic, and others may want something else. But it is this guy who bought an Iphone who keeps on telling everyone how he is so special now, that he has got his own Iphone, he clearly got a better deal and the rest have only cheap knock-offs. It makes me hate the guy, who is an arrogant dumb fuck, and the company that made the product, that washed the brains of this guy, now he actually believes in a fairy tale. It's the average user that pisses off. How could I be jealous of harley if I could have bought my own one and be the part of your, akhem, club? Please tell me where the jealousy should be applied, and for what reason.
Vanrocco66 I don't know about jealousy. What is there to be jealous of. Harley's are old technology. Your average HD has less than 65hp, can't stay out of the shop from leaking either oil or transmission fluid, believe me I know this from experience. They pale in comparison performance wise to a lot of other manufacturers. Do they look good? Yes. Perform good? No. Can anyone walk in a buy a Harley? Absolutely. So why would a Raider rider such as myself be jealous? I have ridden softails, road kings, street glides, and the only one I was impressed with performance wise was my bother's softail, and that's only because it's not stock. His softail can keep up with my Raider and that's saying a lot considering my Raider is a 1900cc. Street Glide impressed me with handling and comfort but that's all. I get both of those and more on my Raider. Btw look at my channel to see my Raider and my bother's Softail.
(only rode the bonnie as of now, quite a nice ride). Another thing I've been reading is that HD has had no problem killing performance for aesthetics, so it seems an early 00 or 90's sporty would be best, so I'm def. considering putting the sporty on the back burner until I'm more financially stable. I think right now I just want a bike that's not dogging at low load and leaking oil out of everywhere like my current DD ('85 nighthawk) is. Carb parts are ridiculously hard to find for it :(.
Agreed HD for aestethic value.
you change cylinders and pistons for set with bigger bore size. Stroke is same as stock. I said without machining cases (crank cases) not cylinders. You cannot machine the stock cylinders to such a high bore, you have to replace them. Well if you do the work alone then you have to add about 800 USD to 883 iron, which makes the bolt looking very weak. With Bolt you have only one option if you run out of steam, sell it...
Other than fluids and tires my 99' 1200s sportster has 68k miles on it. never been worked on or broken down. You got me! i had to put a headlight bulb in it last year.
What's the big deal? I bought my 883 because I liked the style more than any other bike. That's my opinion. The bolt looks like an 883 knock off to me. While it's definitely faster, I didn't buy a 600 pound motorcycle to race nor did 99% of riders. And if you did buy a motorcycle for racing, it wouldn't be either of these bikes.
I'm not even a biker (Yet) but I've been sizing these two for the future. It's not just for speed sake. They're both aimed at beginner riders or bikers new to cruisers so the Bolt comes up on top for other reasons. It's lighter with higher ground clearance so will be easier to corner with. The seat is also a little lower which will shift the centre of gravity lower making balancing easier. The belt drive also is a big factor as it requires less maintenance. It's over all much more user friendly than the Harley. The Harley does have the looks and sound though, but functionally the Bolt has it beaten.
MoosicDude I can't argue with any of those facts because I belive you are right as far as specs go. My point was it just comes down to personal preference. While the bolt wasn't out yet when I bought my iron, I still would have made the same choice based on my reasons for buying a motorcycle. And everyone should be able to buy the bike they want without worrying what other people think about it.
moosiedude.
the iron is also belt driven...at least my 2016 iron.
I have a Softail Breakout, you will love it. It's definitely different than the rest.
both are good bikes doesn't matter which one you have i have rode both bikes and owned both i kept the sportster because the bolt had plastic parts all over it but to me they are both equally good choices for riders who prefer smaller cruisers
I remember when they raced the 750 virago against the 883 and the 750 won in every challenge back in the 90s. It was close though. The displacement difference was a lot bigger in favour of the 883 sportster.
Gotcha. I'll have to try that then. Thanks for the tips! Though while most of it would be DD'ing it, I'm also kind of hoping that if I take a 2 hour trip, I won't want to cut pieces of my body off from vibrations, though, haha. I realize a bike can't be jack of all trades, but basically looking for a good standard with pretty decent cruiser abilities. Something my past sprts bikes lacked, but my old ass Honda is actually pretty good at (think that's the only thing it's good at, lmao).
That's a fair point. The EFI may make a significant difference. Hopefully someone makes a video comparing the more modern 883 so we can see a fair comparison. Having some professional riders on a track would also be nice.
I wonder how it would hold up against the 1200 sporty
Not well. A 900, 1000, or1200 would all smoke him.
@@1BillyBlade if you say so
It’s actually not too bad my brother has an ‘18 Iron 1200 and I have a ‘15 Bolt R-Spec. The only place the difference really shows is on the highway, he has a lot more top end (Obviously) but as for city riding they are pretty evenly matched. We both live in New Orleans and tend to ride through the French Quarter quite a bit and you don’t notice the CC difference all that much until like I said you hit The highways.
Of course it would, but, you know, apples and oranges. The bolt goes for about 8 grand new and so does an 883 sportster which is why the two were compared. The 1200 sportster is a good 2 or 3 grand more than a bolt or 883.
My upgraded Sporty is still under the cost of a 1200 and would leave the Bolt standing still. I dont race at all but its nice to have the nuts to go 2 up with all my camping gear in the mountains.
In 2007 they updated cam's , went to fule injection
I work at a dealership, it's not like this is the only comparison. Stock EFI 883 dyno compared to the bolt is a good way to see that all around the bolt has the edge. (The 883 has .1 more horse power at a higher rpm the bolt has 4 more foot pounds of torque at a lower rpm) So say what you want but the yamaha bolt truly is more reliable, faster, costs about the same (unless you go for the R-spec, which rides a lot smoother) we also sell harleys. It's just personal preference for some. Others just have to get Harley because of the name. Some can only get financed by Harley (because they take anyone) so again performance, comfort, and reliability goes to yamaha. That's just a fact. No need for argument.
Eh, I don't know, I mean I'm in the market for a standard for DD'ing and the sportster comes up quite often in that category where-as the bolt does not. Currently looking at the bonnie, sporty, and the CB1100. So in that standard area, for the time being it'll be stock. Performance to some degree is nice, but yeah, I don't want to sacrifice all the ergo for the performance like with a gixxer. So whatever I go with will likely be stock for a good bit (financially decently tight currently).
Tex,...all I'm saying is the Sportster has pedigree and lineage. I tried to be sarcastic about it. I'm 60 yrs.old. I have been in love with H-D since I was 5. I have never ridden any other Make. I am going to look at the new Indian's,...and I do like the Victory's also. Take notice, you never see the Motor Co. knock any other Manufacturer in their ads or vids. That speaks volumes to me. Ride Safe Bro !
You will ALWAYS be able to get parts for a Sportster. But when the Yamahopper gets so many yrs they will discontinue parts. Plus its not hard to make it a 1200 after you get a few miles on it. Ill take the HD. More options.
The Bolt is a nice bike, but the Sportster is a legend. It's been around since 1957. Even Elvis had Sportsters. So in cool and legendary factors alone, the Sportster chews up the Bolt and spits it out!
Yeah, that's something I'd have to figure out..I mean obviously I want a bike that's fun, but this is a commuter, so what I've been thinking is that it may be best to put the sporty on hold for that very reason, and for the time being get a bike that's uneventful.
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Also heard that the suspension bottoms out easy on the sporty (and I'm quite heavy) so I'd have to upgrade the shocks, but that seems cheap (at least for rear)
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Hopefully I can test drive the others soon!
Harley changed thier game in the mid 90`s. 100K miles on a HD is common now. Oil changes and tires. I can`t say that for anything metric.
when stroking a motor your changing rod and crankshaft length and geometry. a 883 sportster motor is the same rod and crank as the 1200. just swapping in the pistons and jugs from a 1200 give u a factory stock 1200 cc displacement.
This is an interesting comparison, but nothing more. Cruiser buyers typically aren't interested in performance numbers like 0-60, 1/4 miles times, or top speed. If they were, they'd be shopping another category altogether. I'll keep my Sportster.
Yes High School and College students will be thrilled about the new Bolt
+Old Soldier yes, but they are thrilled with little honda's with body kits, and little muffllers that souund like a continuous fart, Faaaarrrrttttt, upshift Faaaarrrtttt, upshift Faaarrrrttttt. LoL
You would definitely beat a bolt with your fxdb, but the fxdb is about 5 grand more than a bolt. That's not really fair, is it? The 883 and bolt cost about the same new; I think this is the main reason why the two were chosen. Of course you can find a lot of HD models that are more powerful than the bolt, but they will all also be much more expensive.
The Bolt is a cool looking bike and I think would be a good option for someone wanting to get into motorcycling. Sure, many comparable bikes are faster. However, none have the fit and finish of a Harley. As others have posted on this video: Let's fast forward two years when both bikes are for sale. The Harley will maintain a great resale value while the Bolt won't be worth even half of it's new sale price.
The Yamaha' s the Winner!. No sweat.
It's got a slightly bigger engine, so no surprises here.
I have an 883 Iron, which I can upgrade to a 1200 (for some extra cash, of course).
How easily can I "pump up the jam" on the bolt?
Oh, nevermind, I just googled the company and I see what you mean, I see how it's built on them, Gotcha.
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As for accel though, you really need to compare it against something in the price range, the bolt can be used, it is here. The bonneville can also be used. If you're interested in the aftermarket, then yeah, probably best to go HD, though when comparing stock-stock, it's hard to justify it.
Both of these bikes are intended as entry/intermediate level cruisers. What is your criteria for a "real" bike? Mine certainly doesn't include the cost.
I have try Yamaha bikes for years. They do run faster then a Harley. But every other month the bike was down because a need for parts on back order. My one bike was in the shop 30 + times for starter parts. After three years the dealer stop selling those parts. Had to have them rebuild outside the dealers.
I own a 2010 XL and have of 30k on it and have had no problems. I ride all year. Rain and shine, hot and cold. It always starts and runs all day in traffic or on the highway. I change oil (it doesn't leak or burn it), brake pads, and tires and do my routine adjustments (clutch etc.). Nothing else. I wanna ride not repair and my XL rides (even when I flog it).
i have a new 883 two weeks old first bike in 25 years so i'm not quite used to it yet .
i ran across a c spec bolt this morning . our race went much differently .
Kind of like comparing a 2013 Mustang to a 2001 Camaro with only 1000 miles. The condition and low mileage of the 2001 doesn't change the fact that it is a twelve, almost thirteen year old car.
I was hoping to see an 883 Iron vs. the Bolt. The price point is almost identical and both bikes are injected. No prediction on a winner; both bikes are cool and anyone who's ridden (or driven) knows that 0-60 performance is only a small part of why people choose one vehicle over another.
I'm impressed, it took a brand new EFI, OHC 4 valve per cylinder, 950cc 540 lb Yamaha to outrun a 13 year old, Carbed, 2 valve per cylinder in case cams, 883cc, 590lb Sportster..... did the Harley even get to do a burnout?
A better comparison would be to use the 2013 harley iron. Although the stock iron is pretty slow still I stuck 1200 kit on mine now it flys :)
you're right. they should have raced two 2001 harley sportsters against each other. then it would be fair.
I feel it was a good comparison. I prefer carb over efi. I've owned sporties and now have an 08 Dyna I bought new. Have to say rather have the Bolt than any of the new overpriced
motor company lineup. And thats coming from a Harley owner.
Always liked my Yamaha's and I've had a few but I'll be keeping my Super Glide I reckon. It's a steam engine and I love it :-)
Harley Davidson vs Yamaha is like Elvis vs karate kid
If you're gonna make a comparison like that one, take the EFI Sportster to make it even. If you put the bolt side to side with an Iron or a Nightster 1200... well, different story man.
what kind of windshield is on that bolt?
You may not have known this, other than a smaller displacement engine, there really isn't that much of a difference between an 883 a and a 1200 Sportster. In fact, the Sportster is known to many as the original Harley Davidson. I'm not biased. I like all bikes. In addition to a 2013 H-D Breakout, I also ride a 2012 ZX-14R. I've been riding Ninja since 1994. Harley riders don't particularly care about speed.
2001 sporty and a 2013 bolt, ten years is a big difference in tech.
I would have been interested in a proper VS. Apples to apples. This comparison might actually mean something if you guys had at least used an EFI sportster. That old 883 is 100cc down on the Bolt already what did you expect would happen? Not sure what you think you proved here.
well the difference between Bolt and Iron is not night and day difference, both bikes performance is very similar. Bolt has only a slight edge in performance and maybe brakes. But with few dollars spent Iron becomes a different animal where the Bolt looses its breath, so the Iron is a clear winner here. If someone is into performance bike the there are much better options then the Bolt (GSXR?), cruiser never stays stock, that is its purpose.
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If you're upping displacement by changing the pistons you're stroking it, if you're opening up the cylinders more you're machining/boring it (but you said without machining it). Though at the time you're doing all of that that's a pretty built motor. I think it's probably more fair to compare stock to stock -_-.
I don't think people get a Sportster to race with.
I think people get a Sportster so they don't have to say "hey check out my new Yamaha". That and it's hard to play that 'harley serenade" on the back roads with a Yamaha.
If I were going to get a bike to race with it would probably be a.......Harley.
They seem to be doing pretty well in the NHRA.
Jefferson Smith yep.. Vance and Hines been killing it for decades on Harleys
@@lionking5687 yeah people bag harleys, but they had the longest held land speed record ever. They make loud armchairs for sure, but they are the nicest loud armchairs ever built.
Also this guy couldn't launch a Harley to save his life, you gotta redline it on launch or you just bog it, strokes too long.
Just proves how slow Harleys are. The brakes and handling are crap too. If it wasn't for the badge on the tank, no one would buy them. They are ad mans dream though. (And before you ask, I've owned two Harleys, both were crap).
Ok take into account thats an 01 harley the newer fuel injected ones perform way way way better its all in choice you like imports ride an inport doesnt mean one garbage and the other isnt
Pretty much im waiting on my tax return then im picking up a 883iron having a screaming eagle big bore kit that will make it a 1200 and replace the cam aswell as change the tuning of the bike after market pipes few other doodads and its all under warranty and it will eat any import cruiser and pry any stock harley alive you cant build what is basically a weekenders drag bike finance it and have a warranty from any other brand ive checked thats why harley is getting my business
Who the fuck cares ???
Other people are happy with them so stop fucking hating
I'm British and I ride a superior bike to any Harley - It's called a Triumph.
PS Have you thought about an anger management course?.
I don't hate Harleys. I just think they are over-rated, over-hyped, not very good motorcycles. And by the way, I'll watch what I like on video,
ASSHOLE!
Although very nice looking, lets see if the Bolt will be around for as long as the Sportster has been. By todays standard, I think the Sportster would make a great beginner bike for some people. The Sportster is made to be affordable. With that said, I think the Sportster makes it possible for many people who otherwise wouldn't buy a Harley because of price to now actually be able to afford one. My wife has one. It was what she wanted to spend to get herself on a Harley.
You guys have to admit this is not a fair race. Even if you don't like Harley, that sportster is not only an 883, (should have been a 1200) but it's over 10 years old. I don't care that it's only got 1000 miles on it. The '14 technology alone is far better then '01. And it still barely beat that bike. I think the race would have been different if you put a '14 1200cc sportster against that brand new bolt. You can't deny that no matter how much you dislike harley
Shit, even the 2014 iron 883.
Price and displacement means it oughta be the bolt vs a new 883. 1200? Sure, if the bolt came with yamaha's 1300. Either way it'll be a slow race and this video shouldn't have been posted lol.
This vid made me smile, the comments make me laugh.
Enjoy your Harleys gentlemen, I'm saving up for my Yamaha.
To each their own.
The bike I want is ugly as hell, but it looks good to me because it is honest and does what I want it to. Not interested in peg scrapers anymore.
It's Black. I was the first person to buy a Breakout at my local H-D dealership.
sporty is a well daily commuter. In fact sportster is best engine and most reliable that Harley ever designed.Check out the XL-883R it has higher suspension and is about same price as Iron. Plus it has dual front brakes.
Today we have 2 bikes 13 years apart but still matched haha there's so many things to factor in over the 13 year period between bike building why not get 2 bikes of the same year?
Considering it races against other XR's most of the time, it should be.
I think the Harley street 750 would be a better comparison for the bolt. Makes almost(just short by a few hp and tq) the same power numbers with almost 200cc's LESS displacement.
Of course the Yamaha will win. Its against an 883. I don't know why HD makes it. Put it up with an older 1000 sportster, or even an older 900. I had a 72 1000 sporty that would rip asphalt, and concrete up from the road. The 2004, and up 1200 sportsters will take it too.
The older ironhead 1100 and 1000 sportsters - would have a hard time trying to keep up with one of the 96-up 883's. Just a completely different motor. The issue here is that the test was a NEW bike against a 10+ year older bike. Huge difference in technology and power.
I have to agree with everyone, saying the harley is king.
Just like a lot of others
Carb vs EFI
883cc vs 942cc or close to it
old clutch vs brand new
I have a 2013 Harley-Davidson IRON, and the only performance upgrade I have is screaming eagle slip-ons. I'm either beating or hanging with Ninjas, jixers, and even my brother's Night-Rod.
They might leave me at 90-100mph, but off-the-line I'm there
Good to see you guys switch rides. That's the only way to compare machines, by eliminating the rider factor.
Got some links to that info? The shop I work at has more metric bikes in for repair than harley - two to one. Most of the harley's are in for modifications and more chrome dress up not fixes.harley's don't even need valve adjustments. what maintenance are you talking about?
I own two harleys and a triumph. I am really curious about the bolt. Wanna check one out
With that being said I still think the bolt would win over a brand new 883. I just think you should have done same year because Harley 883 didn't come out with EFI until 2006 I believe. So you pitted EFI against a carbed 2001.
love too see someone run across me on my harley 48 that bolt looks quick
Not a comparison. A computer controlled ignition with efi vs a carb and a coil on a heavier bike. Might as well compare a Corvette to an F100 cause they both have a V8. I love my Honda, but more often than not, I ride my Harley.
Some of the comments here are just delusionary. My two favorites?
"Put that Yamaha up against a Buell XB9."
Put that Buell up against a Hayabusa, what's your point?
"The Sportster was never meant for speed.:"
So when the Sporty debuted in the 50s it was never meant to compete against the faster Brit bikes?
@ ritchiegunn What I was trying to get across is that the Bolt has a Displacement:of 942 cc compared to the Harley's 883cc.The Buell xb9sx 984cc would have been a closer comparison
more cubic centimeters does not automatically mean more power. Technology plays a huge part in horse power as well as torque. Saying that more cc's= more power is like saying my 103 cubic inch street glide will dust your 600 cubic centimeter gsxr.
There's no comparsion, Harley Davidson needs to step up the game. I had the 883 sport and the bolt. The bolt is overall a better bike and it rides soo smooth on the highway even at 80mph. I can hang with sport bikes on the highway, so you can imagine how that would go.
The 883 is laying down. something is not right with it. Probably the crazy lean factory set up.
In the real world that would be much closer. The Bolt does have quite a few more CC's on it. Displacement and gearing has a lot to do with it too.
hmmmm a 2001 harley 883 is brand new.. interesting.. how about a NEW fuel injected 883 bored out to a 950. this race showes an apple vs an orange. these bikes are not similar at all lol
I completely agree
Ed boisvert Im with ya
ive got to agree. stock off the line vs stock off the line
Ed boisvert Harley engines are old technology (45 degree, single crank pin) and will never surpass modern designs. Harleys are designed for "cool", not for performance.
John Cox People think Harleys are slow because they see the hp, but engines of bigger displacement don't need a lot of horses to move. my dyna came stock with 69hp and still walked all over victories and other cruisers. But that was years ago. She's pushing 97hp at the moment.
now, if that was a newer bike, im sure it would've at least kept up with it.
Wow, didn't see that one coming, is there ANYTHING a Harley can do better then any other bike? asides from make copious amounts of noise and shake itself apart while burning oil since new? I think not
best part about owning an 883 is knowing their is a 1250 big bore kit out their for it.
I don't see the Bolt with it's own class in the AMA, but the sportster sure has one.
Bonneville only produces 60HP at 7100RPM versus the Bolt's 47HP at 5300RPM. brand new 883 produces 45HP at 5900RPM
I'd be much more interested to see a new model sportster with FI run against the bolt. The fact that the sportster has 1000 miles means nothing to me, it's 12 years older than the bolt and running a carburetor as opposed to the bolts fuel injection. I have a feeling the race would be much closer if it were within a year difference between the two models... just saying.
I'll ride my 2001 screamin eagle sportster over that other thing any day. ;)
I got a yamaha bolt and I eat these sportsters all day long, from a dead stop, or cruising on the freeway. These sportsters are over rated, yamaha has done a way better job on this bike.
Wait till you get a sportser 1200
Yes in all fairness the Sportster should be one of the newer ones as altho they are heavier they are now fuel injected, cammed differently, and geared lower than the 2001 model.
Gee,a HARLEY Losing to a motorcycle that actually knows what it's DOING in terms of reliability,design,price,etc.??? Whatta Shocker!!!! Oh,and BTW...........water is WET too!!! LOL.
A real test is both doing 75mph oh the highway for 30 minutes and then getting off to compare the results.
The Sportster has what..67 fewer cc than the Bolt? I'm not entirely sure if this matters in a Cruiser race, but anyway.