Troubled Teen's Murder Rampage | Law and Order SVU

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  • A disturbed young teen kills two classmates but as the investigation progresses, it becomes evident that there have been multiple failures in his care.
    Season 5, Episode 2 'Manic': A teenage boy on a manic rampage kills two star basketball players then tries to kill himself, and his defense is a failed course of psychiatric treatment and drugs.
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  • @ryder389
    @ryder389 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1495

    As soon as I saw his face, I KNEW this kid had to be a Culkin! Apparently it’s Rory Culkin. The whole family are great actors!

    • @Loveless0012
      @Loveless0012 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Fun! I could see it after I read your comment :D

    • @dreadcthulhu5
      @dreadcthulhu5 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Yeah, I watched to see if it was his brother. They actually look a lot alike .

    • @LUCKO2022
      @LUCKO2022 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No one fucking cares.

    • @noahsmith4877
      @noahsmith4877 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@LUCKO2022be nice man

    • @hitthegoat
      @hitthegoat 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      @@LUCKO2022you strike me as a real loser

  • @bigfrankfraser1391
    @bigfrankfraser1391 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +433

    knew a kid who used to live next door me, she was the nicest kid around, always used to say to me whenever i was in the garden because i was her history teacher at her school back then, one day she stabbed her mother in the stomach, knocked on my door and said her mom had been stabbed, i call the ambulance and police, and end up with a scissors in my kidney, kid had developed paranoid hallucinations and thought everyone wanted her dead so she snapped. 20 years later that same girl now work at my school as a teaching assistant, she had spent 11 years in a mental hospital before getting certified sane, and then got cleared of all charges, great kid, great teaching assistant, im paying her tuition to become a full fledged teacher because she genuinely loves teaching history, she said that i was her favourite teacher as a kid so she wanted to be a teacher because of me

    • @DukeTheRebel
      @DukeTheRebel 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      Good on you for forgiving her. I’m sure she appreciates it.

    • @Ofa337
      @Ofa337 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Are you serious?? What makes you think that as an adult she won't flip out again, at school and God forbid hurt a child? UNBELEIVABLE. CLEAARLY neither one of you should be working at a school.

    • @skyofthelivingdead
      @skyofthelivingdead 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Sounds like a worst case scenario first psychotic break, is she schizophrenic? It’s very rare that they hurt others but it does happen. Something similar happened about a decade ago down in Florida, except it was a young man.

    • @bigfrankfraser1391
      @bigfrankfraser1391 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      ​@@skyofthelivingdead she had stress induced psychosis and paranoia, along with severe abandonment issues, thankfully thats all a thing of the past, only issues to worry about with her now is her remembering to take her insulin for her type1 diabetes she developed in her late teens

    • @bigfrankfraser1391
      @bigfrankfraser1391 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@Ofa337 well firstly, her mental health conditions were easily treatable and were developed from intense stress due to family circumstance at the time, and the headmistress of the school i work at is ex-army, she never hires anyone unless she is 100% sure they are safe, and the girl in question is 100% safe, she actually loves working in the classroom and is really good at her job, she has helped many students with there work and is a pillar of the school

  • @WarGrowlmon18
    @WarGrowlmon18 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +897

    I remember this case. They ended up making a deal where the kid would get the psychiatric help that he needed which the kid took because he genuinely wanted to get better. They then went after drug company that was pushing that stuff on people despite knowing that it was dangerous.

    • @lindseymcdougall9774
      @lindseymcdougall9774 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      Thanks for the info on the story. Always frustrates me that it doesnt give you the ending and then I can’t find the full episode.
      Can you remember if they looked at the timing of mum being sent the meds and from a doc she hasn’t seen in 3 years? Was there something fishy there?

    • @WarGrowlmon18
      @WarGrowlmon18 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      @@lindseymcdougall9774I think it was something about the drug company sending them "free samples" repeatedly or something like that??? I can't remember all of the details. SVU is on streaming though.

    • @Barrythebarnabas
      @Barrythebarnabas 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @lindseymcdougall9774 omg 🤦‍♂️ people seriously can’t think for themselves at all these days. How could you possibly have had difficulty finding the episodes that these clips are from when *the season and episode name and number are in the description below every video* 🤦‍♂️

    • @lindseymcdougall9774
      @lindseymcdougall9774 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@Barrythebarnabas did you find the clip that shows that part? Did you find a full plot summary that tells you how the mum was sent the drugs?
      I did look. I searched for the specific series and episode and using the episodes name. I looked for full summaries of the episode online. I even looked to see if I could stream the episode so I could watch the last 10 mins or so to find out, but wasn’t willing to pay for it.
      So back off. If you find the clip that explains it. Let me know

  • @justinchristoph3725
    @justinchristoph3725 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +773

    11:36 "Because I didn't want him to get labeled". I think murdering two other students will get him a worse label.

    • @yucol5661
      @yucol5661 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      Not a reasonable outcome to expect from giving meds without prescription. She is totally on the hook and fucked up, but it’s not realistic to say she knowingly choose between those two

    • @propogandalf
      @propogandalf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@yucol5661I guess you don't know about black box warnings

    • @wonkersmonkers
      @wonkersmonkers 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@propogandalf its a fake drug, there was no black box warning. even if there was, that doesn't go to say there's a reasonable chance of it actually happening

    • @gagejernigan5277
      @gagejernigan5277 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well fucking obviously no one would expect him to do that

    • @gagejernigan5277
      @gagejernigan5277 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@propogandalfdoesn’t matter literally no one is sitting around thinking “if I give my child drugs he’ll murder 2 kids”

  • @leeammorris1268
    @leeammorris1268 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +928

    It's hard enough for adults who struggle with mental health issues, but kids and teens..... Depending on the illness, that can be like taking the muzzle off a rabid dog.

    • @tacticallemon7518
      @tacticallemon7518 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      especially with the stigma around mental health that causes people to try and hide illness

    • @IWantToPetYourDog
      @IWantToPetYourDog 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@tacticallemon7518 When people don't know how to act around someone with mental illness, they tend to make it feel worse.

    • @RealityIsHarsh
      @RealityIsHarsh 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@tacticallemon7518so true, i had issues with my mental health for years in high school, was hurting myself bc i couldn’t handle the pain. Never told anyone because I didn’t wanna be labeled as crazy with the way stigma was around mental health. Wasn’t put on meds and in therapy till I was 17.

    • @AskMeWhyYoureStupid
      @AskMeWhyYoureStupid 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Huh? And what exactly in this scenario would be "taking the muzzle of a rabid dog"? .....what you said made no sense.

    • @southbug27
      @southbug27 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Not to mention that puberty makes people feel like they’re going crazy to begin with. I saw part of a documentary about the brain on PBS, & they talked about how the puberty hormones change the brain, making kids feel like everyone is watching them all the time & making them feel embarrassed. The scientist said there’s such fast, extreme brain changes that it overloads the brain & causes kids to lash out with tantrum-like behaviors. He says it’s basically the same thing as toddlers having meltdowns due to their brain development being too much for them to handle at times & leading to toddler tantrums. When I heard that, I thought it would change the world if all teens knew that was going on with hormones & their brains. It would’ve made a world of difference for me just knowing that everyone else felt exactly the same way.

  • @JaneSt.Valentine
    @JaneSt.Valentine 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +780

    The doctor that diagnosed me with Asperger's Syndrome once prescribed a medication for me to take. My mother, who doesn't agree with doping up kids so they'd behave, asked a pharmacist for a print-out of the drug (ingredients and whatnot), since she couldn't find _any information on it._ The pharmacist comes back, goes "well, it's your choice weather you want to give it to your daughter..." and handed her the print-out...several pages of a print-out. On the very last page, in big, bold letters, it read; "This medication is not to be prescribed to people under the age of 18, as the side effects are totally unknown".
    I was 11. Needless to say, I was not given the medication.

    • @sharonroller8849
      @sharonroller8849 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      Smart Mom!

    • @angelachouinard4581
      @angelachouinard4581 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

      Your mother was smart. My kid brother got a PhD in pharmaceutical chemistry and spent his entire career in the pharmaceutical industry. He told the family always to talk to the pharmacist, they know way more about the drugs than the doctors, that's their whole focus. That pharmacist sounded like he read at least some of that report.

    • @lucymcdonald2874
      @lucymcdonald2874 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Medication for autism?! Huh? That doctor is CRAZY!

    • @bluemeetsgreen
      @bluemeetsgreen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      @@lucymcdonald2874 As an autistic person there aren't medications for Autisms per se but there are antidepressants and ADHD medications that can help with some of the worst symptoms of the disorder. ADHD is usually comorbid with Autism so it's likely an autistic person would take stimulants to help with ADHD symptoms. As well as antidepressants to help with depression, because let me tell you, this disorder sucks sometimes. Especially because this world was not made for Autistic people and trying to survive in this world even with help is depressing.

    • @tourettehero
      @tourettehero 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      ​@@bluemeetsgreenexactly. Meds to assist with symptoms... Not autism itself.

  • @Athlynne
    @Athlynne 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +272

    This episode made me angry, I remember. The pharma rep is blamed for everything, meanwhile the mother who gave her kid medication not prescribed to him gets in no trouble at all.

    • @TimberlakeTigerGirl
      @TimberlakeTigerGirl 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Except in real life, the pharma industry does have a habit of pushing unsafe drugs even if the FDA itself haven't approved of them for public use.

    • @UncannyLiving
      @UncannyLiving 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@TimberlakeTigerGirlNo. there is a process. Multiple rounds of testing and pending public use approval. A company can’t give out a drug not approved by the FDA

    • @KaitoKiara
      @KaitoKiara 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      The insurance company wouldn't pay for therapy and the school wanted the kid on drugs, which the pharmacist happily provided.
      I don't blame the mother for being left with only one terrible choice.
      The healthcare system in the US is terrible and being an employer means almost to zero rights. Combine this with being a single mother with a very sick child and you have no chance to thrive.

    • @moneylover318
      @moneylover318 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@KaitoKiaraWhat made me mad is when she said I didn't want Him to get labelled. More than half the kids in america at that time were on prescription

    • @KaitoKiara
      @KaitoKiara 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@moneylover318
      That's another thing, therapy is bad, because the person gets a stigma, but drugs are fine.
      That's so weird. America creates their own gods and worships them: Drugs and guns are on top right now and people in America keep wondering why their churches on earth (The pharma industry and the gun lobby) have so much power in politics and society...

  • @jessewaters7803
    @jessewaters7803 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +504

    Is anybody going to talk about how nice of a drawing the kid did

    • @nickerskine6326
      @nickerskine6326 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      it is pretty good even if it's a little creepy.

    • @samg873
      @samg873 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@nickerskine6326 from what I learned mentally ill kids draw really well

    • @_Carmen_28
      @_Carmen_28 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      ​@@samg873 that's not necessarily true

    • @ALUCARD-us3il
      @ALUCARD-us3il 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@samg873not entirely true, yes some kids with mental health issues can draw incredibly well, but that isn’t the case for all of them.

    • @nickerskine6326
      @nickerskine6326 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@samg873 that actually explains a lot.

  • @actorpmw
    @actorpmw 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +154

    Who the hell finds a random package of pills in their doorstep and thinks “I’ll give it to my kid”?

    • @JohnM-sw4sc
      @JohnM-sw4sc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Optimists ?

    • @dsadik666
      @dsadik666 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Women ☕

  • @miranda13c
    @miranda13c 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +256

    That is Rory Culkin! I remember this episode.

    • @DravenGal
      @DravenGal 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      Ah, yes, I knew it was a Culkin but wasn't sure of his name! Thanks!

    • @stephenking5852
      @stephenking5852 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      I had no idea there was more than one Culkin kid.

    • @Agent-cz9rj
      @Agent-cz9rj 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      I thought I recognised him as one of the Culkin brothers.
      Yep definitely Rory Culkin.

    • @Alsomnia
      @Alsomnia 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      ​@@stephenking5852 there's like 6 of them

    • @stephenking5852
      @stephenking5852 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Alsomnia 😮

  • @joewhitehead3
    @joewhitehead3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    “I didn’t want him to get labeled.” Oh that ship had longed sailed

  • @unclejoker9975
    @unclejoker9975 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +190

    I love the psychotherapist's stance. Medication isn't always necessary.

    • @pokemagetech
      @pokemagetech 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Sure. But it’s helpful.
      Severe depression? Okay, here’s antidepressants so you can get out of bed, now come talk about it and see if we can address it this way.

    • @unclejoker9975
      @unclejoker9975 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pokemagetech it's helpful if you're willing to take on the side effects.

    • @WouldntULikeToKnow.
      @WouldntULikeToKnow. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​​@@unclejoker9975 I'm more willing to have any side effects so I can actually live a normal life and not have to suffer. Must be nice not to have to make that decision and be mentally healthy. The side effects are nothing compared to my own mental illness.

    • @unclejoker9975
      @unclejoker9975 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @WouldntULikeToKnow. you assume more than you should. I minored in psychology and used to think, "Just don't be depressed" when it came to depression. Since those days, I've had my my share of bouts with depression and now describe it as a hole that when tried to be climbed out of results in pulling more dirt in on top of you. I admit that we are all different. I can't recall how I escaped it many of those times. I'd just wonder what freed me and allowed me to jump or be pulled out of my pit. I know that people who aren't in the "hole" with you talking about diet, exercise, etc. don't help and can make it worse. Sitting in groups with other sufferers telling our therapist(s) that their "helping" wasn't much help was temporary relief that only lasted while banding together and laughing about how crazy the whole thing was, only to dissipate as we dispersed to our vehicles. I accidentally discovered a cure that applied to myself when I was taking 3 hour improv classes on Fridays one autumn. There were three separate weeks where there was no class due to Veterans Day, state holiday, and Thanksgiving. I noticed that my depression loomed on the weeks that we didn't gather. I hope that anyone reading this finds their "improv" outlet, and they have the strength to get up and go take that medicine. On my journey, I've learned that it isn't my job to carry the weight to judge or be judged when it comes to myself. I work for God, and he doesn't promise an easy life, but he does give unconditional love. Our bodies were designed to heal themselves and produce the chemicals that medication is designed to activate. If I can avoid crutches and heal faster, I will. That's just my preference, though. Even on tough days, if I can look in the mirror and say, "I went down swinging," then it was a pretty good day. I pray for strength in all of your struggles. God bless.

    • @bearhugzfam649
      @bearhugzfam649 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@unclejoker9975 Funny how you claim others are assuming more than they should while you seem to be making your own assumptions that their comment was about your mental status. They hypothesized that it must be nice to be healthy, not that you must be healthy to make your assumption. But go off

  • @feraltaco4783
    @feraltaco4783 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +950

    Poor kid. I have mental health issues and it's hard enough for me as an adult. Can't imagine what he's going through.
    Edit: Good Lord I understand this is an actor.

    • @justinmoody9164
      @justinmoody9164 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      He’s not real

    • @LoveSamandColbyXPLR
      @LoveSamandColbyXPLR 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      @@justinmoody9164I’m pretty sure they know that he’s not real and that this is just a show they’re saying that they feel bad for him and that it must’ve been hard for him and they couldn’t imagine what he’s going through they mean in the show

    • @antmagor
      @antmagor 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@justinmoody9164 they know he’s not real, however, the time that they were writing the show the writers had a rule. The cases we saw had to be based on crimes, and or situations that had actually happened in the system. They also tried to focus on cases that weren’t on the beaten track. Sometimes it worked better than others but anyway. The point is that this was a debate that was happening at the time because we had a lot of kids being put on meds with no research as to whether or not the condition, warranted it, or what the side effects would be.

    • @Snekelord12
      @Snekelord12 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Are you okay?

    • @feraltaco4783
      @feraltaco4783 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      @@justinmoody9164 the character is fake. The children who go through this every day are not.

  • @ytafan4068
    @ytafan4068 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +287

    The mother was in a desperate situation. She heard everyone saying her son needed to be on that med. She had depression before. She took the med, and it helped her, so she thought it would work for her son as well. We saw how that turned out. I can understand her reasoning, and I can sympathize with her somewhat.
    I loved how Cabot talked to them and the defense lawyer, and got the defense lawyer to look past the case for a moment. She got them to admit that the kid had problems and needed help. She also got them to realize that even if the defense won the case, the kid and his mother would end out right back where they were. How long would it be before they're back in court again? I think that was enough to make the defense lawyer switch his strategy and focus on actually helping the kid.
    I especially liked how the kid accepted the plea right away. I get the feeling he no longer cared about being labeled. This may be somewhat cruel, but I don't think he cared about the kids he killed at that moment. He said it himself - he wanted to get better. That was more important to him at that moment than anything else. I also think he no longer trusted his mother to do what was right for him. She gave him the pills in secret so he wouldn't get labeled, and that blew up spectacularly. When offered the plea, she didn't want to make the decision now. She wanted to think it over. Once again, it seemed she was more concerned about the labeling than helping her son. Her son has had enough of being sick and of her apparent unwillingness to accept the truth about the problem and deal with it in the open rather than behind closed doors. He made the decision for her.

    • @moneylover318
      @moneylover318 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don't know where she got the idea that being on medication follows you forever. Especially at that time More than maybe half the kids in America were on prescriptions at the time.

    • @ytafan4068
      @ytafan4068 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@moneylover318 I don't think it's being on meds that she was concerned about. It was having on his records that he's a mental patient. It would hurt his chances of getting ahead in life. But like I said, her kid had enough. Enough of being sick and enough of her. He made the decision for himself.

    • @moneylover318
      @moneylover318 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ytafan4068 i dont mean to argue to be clear im just confused. I meant when stabler asked why she didn't just get a prescription and she say i didn't want him to get labeled. I thought she meant that being on medication will follow you forever

  • @jennifergomez6405
    @jennifergomez6405 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    I was diagnosed with ADD as a child & hated taking the medication. My son has ADHD with behavioral issues (that he finally outgrew) but I remember the battle with my own mom and being told by everybody at school insisting that he needed to be medicated. If he misbehaved they’d ask “did you take your medicine?!!” The pressure was so infuriating , and he hated the medication as well.

    • @afoy550
      @afoy550 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I'm not a big fan of medication either. I had a d d and took medication. I never felt like myself . I eventually outgrow it. My cousin had ADHD and some behavior issues. She was hell to be around. She had to take that medicine to calm down even a little bit. None of the other kids really enjoyed being around her, because it would always go off the rails eventually. I'm not a fan of medication, but I'm also not a fan of your behavior affecting everyone around you. I hope your son is doing much better now. Medication for children can sometimes be a double-edged sword.

    • @oneplate6489
      @oneplate6489 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I'm on medication for debilitating anxiety, which has genuinely helped me a lot. However! I have very quickly become sick of that question. Being asked "did you take your medicine today?" Whenever I express basically ANY emotion: too excited? Angry? Sad? Jittery with anticipation? Or even! Nothing at all! is frankly infuriating. Sympathies for your son, it sucks.

    • @amandasnider2644
      @amandasnider2644 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I just want to say that medication is worth at least trying for a trial period so long as you are 100% certain of the diagnosis. I'm 28 but I was diagnosed at age 7 and I believe I was put on medication from at least the age of 8. I have a severe case of it and I cannot function without it and even with a large doseage as an adult I still struggle a lot. I'm a huge advocate for medication because I know how much of a difference it makes for me.
      But I said you have to be 100% sure because my younger sister was misdiagnosed with having ADHD and put on medication but she was re-evaluated and turns out she just has a learning disability of which there's no medication for treatment. Luckily for her she was not on a large dosage and was only negatively effected by minimized appetite.
      But trying a low doseage for a trial period might be a major blessing for your child if it works really well for them.

    • @joewhitehead3
      @joewhitehead3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What’s something other than medication that can help?

    • @pokemagetech
      @pokemagetech 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@afoy550
      You either still have ADHD or you never had it, because it’s part of how your brain is wired. Maybe you were just an energetic kid. Maybe you’ve just learned how to manage very well.
      I’m ADHD, hyperactive presentation. I can focus fine, and my executive functioning is actually fairly good, but I will talk your fucking ear off.

  • @jamesdc9595
    @jamesdc9595 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +249

    “You gave it to your son so you could get to work on time?”
    Holy strawman, Batman!

    • @doctorposting
      @doctorposting 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Yea Stabler isn’t too bright to begin with lol

    • @ChrisCosat
      @ChrisCosat 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@doctorpostingtbh, which LEO is?

    • @felisd
      @felisd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Seriously... Without that job, she can't keep a roof over his head, let alone therapy or meds or anything else. Gotta love judgment of the privileged ...

    • @pokemagetech
      @pokemagetech 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@ChrisCosat
      Mr. Monk.

    • @dimensionzone8048
      @dimensionzone8048 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Stabler is anything but privalaged though lol ​@@felisd

  • @cww2490
    @cww2490 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +176

    Why would she think if you use it it'll label the kid? If you don't tell people you are on a medication no one will know except doctors.

    • @catdogmousecheese
      @catdogmousecheese 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      You're right, she should have consulted a doctor before giving her son medication, but I have sympathy for this mother. Her son's mental illness was about to get him expelled from school and she couldn't afford a real therapist, she was desperate.

    • @lenitaa7938
      @lenitaa7938 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Not quite! The Courts, lawyers and Govt’s can subpoena the medical records!

    • @yucol5661
      @yucol5661 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Not how that works. He would be “labeled” if he ever wanted to change schools or go into the army or some academic jobs. It is a consideration when diagnosing or prescribing children with stuff, it’s just that the negative effects of people finding out you have “a record” normally doesn’t heavily counter the positive effects of the treatment. But it’s not 100% private or 100% not punished. And at the end of the day, wouldn’t you want your doctor or your kid’s classmates to NOT be a person who took pills as a kid? Maybe you are accepting and open minded of mental health and medication, most people are not as forgiving.

    • @gilliantohver3225
      @gilliantohver3225 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      This was recorded a long time ago. If probably would have labeled him. Kids in school are really cruel.

    • @idontno0
      @idontno0 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@gilliantohver3225it will still label him...? See above comment. Military, schools, government jobs.

  • @JulesBhm
    @JulesBhm 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +124

    I knew he was a Culkin as soon as I heard the voice, sounds just like his brother Macaulay!

    • @kathryncotter4933
      @kathryncotter4933 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Looks just like him too

    • @idfwy_ylsabiafwy182_GiGi
      @idfwy_ylsabiafwy182_GiGi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yes those eyes!!

    • @drewhaynes1874
      @drewhaynes1874 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      he had another role here...the other role he played he was a a lapsing victim or ped -phile angry at his parent because they accepted hush money

  • @cobbinator111
    @cobbinator111 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Everything aside who would give their child a PILL from the mail that they didn’t even order

    • @joewhitehead3
      @joewhitehead3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      A desperate one who just wanted to see her child get better. Plus everyone was telling her he should be on it

    • @cobbinator111
      @cobbinator111 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@joewhitehead3 but giving your child a random pill that could be labeled anything from the mail is wrong. She didn’t order it, she didn’t know what it was, she’s not an expert. It could’ve been anything. You don’t do that.

    • @joewhitehead3
      @joewhitehead3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@cobbinator111 She knew what it was. She herself had taken it before. She just didn’t know how it would effect him

  • @ajvanmarle
    @ajvanmarle 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    I remember. This is where they blamed the pharmaceutical company because the mother disregarded the instructions and gave her son a medicine that had been prescribed to her without ever telling her doctor. How that was anyone's fault but her own was never made clear. It was one of the reasons I stopped watching this show.

    • @lyhuy7413
      @lyhuy7413 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      All excuses are all stupid bad excuses anyway ironically in this imperfect world

    • @dreadcthulhu5
      @dreadcthulhu5 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Because they sent it through the mail without a consultation, prescription or really any oversight in the matter at all.

  • @foolslayer9416
    @foolslayer9416 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +84

    As horrible as it is that the kid was mistreated due to his mental illness, he still murdered two kids. He needs to be held accountable for what he did, as well as the parents who put him there in the first place.

    • @WarGrowlmon18
      @WarGrowlmon18 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      He was held accountable for that, he took a deal where he would get institutionalized so that he could be punished and get the help that he needed at the same time.

    • @joewhitehead3
      @joewhitehead3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      & the CEO of the company who provided the meds was arrested

    • @WouldntULikeToKnow.
      @WouldntULikeToKnow. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@joewhitehead3 those medications, when used properly, help many people live normal lives.

    • @joewhitehead3
      @joewhitehead3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@WouldntULikeToKnow. But the way he just handed them out to people who needed them was reckless & dangerous. Hence why one of his charges was reckless endangerment

    • @dreadcthulhu5
      @dreadcthulhu5 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@WouldntULikeToKnow. When used properly are the operative words there. Sending them to people through the mail and hoping for the best might not be a great idea.

  • @bennywark3103
    @bennywark3103 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    That kid has an amazing art skill

  • @jeannehall6546
    @jeannehall6546 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Initial symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia.

  • @beautifuldreamer7204
    @beautifuldreamer7204 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    Everyone should know that if you have ANY medication that's not the over the counter stuff, it should be prescribed by the patient's doctor and the patient's doctor alone, not just a strong opinion

    • @pokemagetech
      @pokemagetech 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And you should read the label before mixing OTCs with one another or alcohol, and talk to a pharmacist before mixing OTCs or alcohol with your prescriptions.
      Also, if you have known drug allergies, it’s worthwhile to ask “hey, I’m allergic to X, does that make it likely I’m allergic to New Prescription?”

  • @caitlinspence4749
    @caitlinspence4749 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    RORY CULKIN MY MAN SLAYING AS ALWAYS 😊😊

    • @FireHeart2829
      @FireHeart2829 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So he IS a Culkin!!

    • @idfwy_ylsabiafwy182_GiGi
      @idfwy_ylsabiafwy182_GiGi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I thought that was him with those Culkin eyes 😂❤

    • @sonyasmith5805
      @sonyasmith5805 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I know right this is the boy from the movie ring,, yes im asking because it's those eyes that caught my attention too

  • @jayleighbear
    @jayleighbear 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    as someone who was diagnosed with adhd at the age of 3 back in the early 2000’s meds are a very VERY tricky subject. my parents couldn’t deal with me and my behavior but they never increased my dose past what was actually necessary. a lot of times especially with adhd parents think that a medicated kid who is full and quiet is the correct solution but it’s not. kids are not meant to be zombies.there is going to be impulsive and immature behavior for kids with adhd until they grow up no matter what meds you give them. sometimes you just gotta safely wait it out
    edit: to clarify, i was diagnosed at a psychologists office multiple times. i wasn’t just answering simple yes or no questions i underwent several hours of neuropsychological testing (which can be very expensive so a lot of ppl are unable to get it done but it would help with the over diagnosis of adhd) so my situation is very different from a lot of people’s.

    • @hydrangeas_lover
      @hydrangeas_lover 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agree. More isn't necessarily better. Every child is different. One of the major side effects of ADD or ADHD medications is the zombie like effect, and that is extremely concerning. Therapy, I think, should be the first line of defense if it is accessible and/or if the insurance will cover it. The therapist can make an assessment to see if medication along with psychotherapy would be a helpful tool. Everyone's financial situation is different. All these different factors are what make these situations so difficult and complex.

    • @jayleighbear
      @jayleighbear 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hydrangeas_lover exactly! medication is a perfectly viable solution for kids as long as they aren’t being OVER medicated. my adhd meds growing up helped me to focus but if i started to feel zombie like and dead my parents would drop the dose even if it was more convenient for them to have me wandering around like a robot. i never hated taking my meds bc they never put me on a dose high enough to affect my mental health state severely. i teach swim lessons to a kiddo with severe adhd and his parents don’t give it to him consistently and it’s also very obvious the dose is too high bc he’s told me on multiple occasions he hates taking it bc he feels robotic when he does. there’s a healthy balance to adhd meds for kids and finding a dose that allows a child to focus better while still being a child is so important. the impulse control and hyperactivity will get better over time but the meds are meant to treat the ability for a child to pay attention and retain important information, not turn them into little androids who go through the day in what is essentially a daze.

    • @dsadik666
      @dsadik666 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would question a doctor's medical license that diagnosed a 3 year old with ADHD.

    • @jayleighbear
      @jayleighbear 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dsadik666 i was not medicated until the age of 5 but even to this day it’s very apparent i have adhd so the psychologists were indeed correct. i’m also a girl and it’s well known that girls with adhd tend to present differently and are underdiagnosed, mine was just so obvious and so severe that it was clear i had something wrong with me.

    • @dsadik666
      @dsadik666 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jayleighbear that's not helping the case much it would have to be ridiculously severe.
      There's been many scandals with the American Health care.
      The doctors they were getting Kickbacks and essentially bribes for prescribing those medicines this is how the opioid epidemic became a thing.

  • @darlenetoste5035
    @darlenetoste5035 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    There needs to be more programs for kids who have mental health issues and to help them deal the issues and to get their parents more involved in those therapy sessions!

  • @AchaLoL17
    @AchaLoL17 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I get she's desperate, but did it not occur to her that the random package full of medicine could also be... i dont know... POISONOUS?!

    • @artisticangel5795
      @artisticangel5795 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That’s a good point actually, how does she know that it wasn’t the kind of pills that’ll- well you know having him pushing up daisies…
      Plus how does the mother know that it was the supposed pills she was supposed to give to her son?
      Not unless there’s a note attached to it.

  • @JF-um3wz
    @JF-um3wz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    The lawyer interrogating him on the stand would probably be in a lot more trouble, given it had gotten to the point of outright badgering.

  • @kittynorville9125
    @kittynorville9125 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Loving these new uploads

  • @HexVisualNovelPlaythroughs
    @HexVisualNovelPlaythroughs 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    as bad as it is what the mom did that is how the system is they will throw you to the wolfs to keep there shyt from not stinking

    • @doctorposting
      @doctorposting 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      what “system” lmao she got drugs illegally

  • @greyshxt69
    @greyshxt69 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Doctor explaining why he tries not to prescribe is golden

  • @lucindamobley5492
    @lucindamobley5492 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I must have been extremely sheltered when I was growing up because I don't ever remember seeing any of my classmates acting like this or like the guys picking on him when I was in school. I got bullied on occasion but not to the point that these kids went to. It hurts my heart to think about this kind of stuff happening.

  • @sonyasmith5805
    @sonyasmith5805 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    So basically she was worried about HER reputation for her child.. basically these shows are making me look a little bit more better then what I thought as a mother because I am definitely not a good parent / perfect

  • @bernayhansondescendantofth9969
    @bernayhansondescendantofth9969 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Maybe this boy should be placed in a mental hospital for this. Or maybe he can be in juvenile jail. He has to tell the truth, because lies won't help. That medication should've been banned from being given out.

    • @WarGrowlmon18
      @WarGrowlmon18 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He did go to a mental health facility in the end.

  • @user-ye2ge4zo5lhennypenny
    @user-ye2ge4zo5lhennypenny 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    7 Jan 2024 I remember watching this wonderful show on TV Spellbinding! ❤❤

  • @TheWakeyup
    @TheWakeyup 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    😢This episode really mad me cry it's something about the way he asked for his pen 🖋 I felt that 😢

  • @jamiefleming8795
    @jamiefleming8795 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Even if he does have a mental disorder, she should have took him to a doctor instead of trying to give him her own medications because it was doing more harm than good.

  • @nnekam6153
    @nnekam6153 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    So between her son being labeled and committing murder which is better ? !

  • @spaceace1006
    @spaceace1006 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I never watched this show, but I'm now checking out all these clips! Looks like I've been missing some good stuff!
    The Kid Actors do a great job! Of course, the Adult Actors are 1st Class!!!

  • @ExplorerDS6789
    @ExplorerDS6789 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Rory Culkin in The Good Son 2!

  • @jadedbrad
    @jadedbrad 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Mom gave such a wrought performance. She is the best of us!

  • @sarahhejab6596
    @sarahhejab6596 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    That actress the mother is from Grey's Anatomy. I love actresses and other famous people were on SVU. Love ❤❤

    • @redlupo6193
      @redlupo6193 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Mare Winningham. *Wonderful* actress!

    • @SY-ok2dq
      @SY-ok2dq 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@redlupo6193 Winningham was one of those actresses where you wondered, why weren't they in more stuff, bigger, more high profile roles and so on. Especially after her Academy Award nomination for "Georgia" (never knew she had such a great singing voice until then).
      But then I found out how many children she'd had. So she's had a very good, consistent career considering all the times she's had to take long breaks in her career to give birth and take care of all those children. More than other careers, taking time off to raise kids can really disrupt and even kill your career.

    • @Loveless0012
      @Loveless0012 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I noticed too. As soon as I saw her in court in my head I said "It's Susan!" XD

  • @bildo1977
    @bildo1977 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This hits close to home.

  • @zengaming1020
    @zengaming1020 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Charlie Walker from Scream 4 in his younger days

  • @thelittlefashionphoenix
    @thelittlefashionphoenix 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Me, looking at the thumbnail: “ooh, that's a. Culkin”

  • @lorenbaker479
    @lorenbaker479 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Funny thing is he became Ghostface in Scream 4

  • @andreapatane4204
    @andreapatane4204 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It isn't easy to deal with troubled teenagers whenever they experience a lot of murder rampages in New York as seen on the episode, "Manic" from Law & Order SVU these days of play acting. OMG, actress Mare Winningham guest stars as Joe's mom in case you didn't know that.

  • @tonyajones1463
    @tonyajones1463 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I'm sick of people blaming these hard working single parents who are desperate for their children to get well. Elliot is a good man but he doesn't understand struggle of a sick child. Oh wait yes he does and he never even tried to help her.

    • @brilissa1
      @brilissa1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      On what episode? I would love to watch it. ( not being sarcastic)

    • @doctordavidchan1044
      @doctordavidchan1044 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@brilissa1 the episode where we find out one of his daughters has a mental illness is called Swing.

  • @Thorax7x686
    @Thorax7x686 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Such trauma 😢

  • @medeucaa
    @medeucaa 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Oop we got a culkin. That face is entirely too recognizable lol

  • @Aussieloz1
    @Aussieloz1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If only the counselling had been an option from the start, it could have saved so much grief.

  • @seanalexander5978
    @seanalexander5978 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Joe got the mental help he needed. He then moved to Woodsboro, changed his name to Charlie, grew up into a well mannered teenager, put on a ghostface mask and proceeded to go on a murder spree with his partner Jill Roberts as seen in Scream 4

  • @buckwheatusfeatus4825
    @buckwheatusfeatus4825 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Guess no one wanted to mention that this was Rory Culkin who later starred in Swarm?

  • @Minycart
    @Minycart 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Did the mom play in American horror story: Coven. As Kyle’s mom?

  • @ivytruly1943
    @ivytruly1943 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Every psych I've talked to says "meds don't fix the problems on its own." Ya gotta have some form of therapy as well. I'd say this is an extreme example of the consequences that could happen

  • @Jadaistyping
    @Jadaistyping 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    That’s Charlie from Scream 4. I never knew his real name or who he was related to.

    • @ragingrich95
      @ragingrich95 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s where he’s from I couldn’t make it out lol

  • @peter_pansexual6243
    @peter_pansexual6243 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    Is that a Culkin?

    • @richardkipphorn3309
      @richardkipphorn3309 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Rory!

    • @doodleking400
      @doodleking400 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Imagine if famous actor’s names were DnD races. Culkins would be gremlins.

    • @peter_pansexual6243
      @peter_pansexual6243 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@richardkipphorn3309
      How many are there?

    • @miranda13c
      @miranda13c 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, it is Rory 😊

    • @richardkipphorn3309
      @richardkipphorn3309 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      7, or 8 if you count their half sister.

  • @thebeautifulrose294
    @thebeautifulrose294 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this show

  • @Cupcakeruple
    @Cupcakeruple หลายเดือนก่อน

    For anyone wondering HNT stands for Hostage Negotiation Team

  • @enjoyingmyvodka1013
    @enjoyingmyvodka1013 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mental health is not a joke

  • @user-rv1wf6sd4p
    @user-rv1wf6sd4p 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think in cases like this..finding those kids in thst warehouse,a female cop should approach those frightened kids
    Great show guys!❤

  • @nicholasclark2425
    @nicholasclark2425 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That poor boy he's very sick and he needs help

  • @vault7137
    @vault7137 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's things like this that make me hate our medical insurance companies. Heaven forbid they pay for a safer alternative for a child.

  • @SavannahSteel
    @SavannahSteel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What an awesome child actor.

  • @heysoulsister6247
    @heysoulsister6247 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fun fact, the boy in this episode is Rory Culkin, Macaulay Culkin’s little brother. When I first saw him I knew his face and voice seemed familiar lmao 😂

  • @MStafford-lr9le
    @MStafford-lr9le 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lmao tv shows…she finds the gun 15 seconds into looking 😂

  • @tjbyars2433
    @tjbyars2433 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Yeah it the one who played in scream five who was in love with Kirby reed

    • @hohnjogan
      @hohnjogan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Scream 4 and he also died

  • @AnnaDeArtist420
    @AnnaDeArtist420 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I cannot get over the fact that Joe's violent alter ego shares the same name as the fortune telling machine from Big, the Tom Hanks movie.

  • @KarenLee-bs5ms
    @KarenLee-bs5ms 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That's Macaulay Culkin's brother.. it's amazing of how much they look alike.. unfortunately mental illness is a very real thing..

  • @elsieleblanca5836
    @elsieleblanca5836 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is giving demon possession

  • @Mariamunro95
    @Mariamunro95 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Does nobody really question where this little boy got the gun?

  • @rachelgarber1423
    @rachelgarber1423 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    How did it end

  • @joewhitehead3
    @joewhitehead3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Some hella good acting from Rory Culkin. I think at 5:51 was when the medication wore off

  • @user-sd8ev1zr2w
    @user-sd8ev1zr2w 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    OH my God poor kid

  • @MrGabeanator
    @MrGabeanator 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i liked this episode

  • @thomasplouffe1363
    @thomasplouffe1363 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    this kids no older then 12, maybe 11 at max, poor kid

  • @nightwingman666
    @nightwingman666 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No wonder he grew up and became the Ghostface of Scream 4.

  • @freethoughts2898
    @freethoughts2898 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Roman!!!!!!!! Wow, I feel old lol

    • @dezchocofondue
      @dezchocofondue 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s another one of the Culkins!

  • @laurabrown8161
    @laurabrown8161 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    not a bulletproof vest in sight 🙃🙃🙃

    • @aliquot8404
      @aliquot8404 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or gloves when touching ANYTHING at a crime scene.

  • @Silvers_916
    @Silvers_916 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro looks and sounds like home alone guy.

  • @patrickcomerford4101
    @patrickcomerford4101 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Did you cgi a tear when he was already crying or am I crazy

  • @Alexander-wq7qo
    @Alexander-wq7qo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LMAOOO I thought that was maculay in the thumbnail but I was close, its his brother

  • @caitlinf3353
    @caitlinf3353 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never get random packages

  • @AlbeezKneez
    @AlbeezKneez หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kid was great in signs

  • @TrueDaemonLord
    @TrueDaemonLord หลายเดือนก่อน

    And this kid would grow up to be a ghostface!

  • @JoJoGranum
    @JoJoGranum 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Zoltar is the name of a villain in an Americanized Japanese anime, American version was “Battle of the Planets” .

  • @TheTishy44
    @TheTishy44 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Where’s his parents, during the interviews?

    • @ahmarree4883
      @ahmarree4883 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He had a lawyer present

  • @asmokeus
    @asmokeus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    oooooooooohhhhhhhh that cross-examination makes me _upset._

  • @tylociraptor8131
    @tylociraptor8131 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She gave drugs that just appeared in the mail to her minor son!? omfg...

  • @GlennAustin829
    @GlennAustin829 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That kid looks like Alexander Skarsgard

  • @GabrielaCoutinho12
    @GabrielaCoutinho12 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ridiculous

  • @user-rv1wf6sd4p
    @user-rv1wf6sd4p 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This kid is now a famous actor,he must be elderly now
    But he stayed in acting,ive sern him in a few films

  • @thebyrd433
    @thebyrd433 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ... An adult-portioned dose of a med not prescribed to the child. What could possibly go wrong with that?

  • @trevorjoneill707
    @trevorjoneill707 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what a fool, is she made

  • @radutron
    @radutron 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's a Todd McFarlane drawing, me thinks.

  • @Higinjhhg1123
    @Higinjhhg1123 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Plot twist. Zoltar was real and all the detectives are eliminated

  • @ambermarielewis9353
    @ambermarielewis9353 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Soon as I saw him I new he was a Culkin

  • @xeromoth9771
    @xeromoth9771 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi, Zoltar here
    Ignore this boy I’m definitely not going to kill you
    I promise 😈

  • @beverlysmith2640
    @beverlysmith2640 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Head is all healed?