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- Here's an F1 2020 onboard lap around the old Spa-Francorchamps layout with Max Verstappen in his Red Bull RB16 challenger.
The old Spa layout was used between 1939-1978, and was 14.1km long. Going around this track with a modern F1 car means that it's mostly flat out throughout the majority of the circuit, with very very few turns and corners through the whole circuit. It was interesting to see the differences compared to the modern layout, one of them being the Eau Rouge and Raidillon corners which required me brake more compared to the modern layout.
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#F12020 #F1 #BelgianGP
Monza: I am the temple of speed.
Old spa: allow me to introduce myself
_Old monza has entered the chat_
@@Balaerus Old Hocheimring: Wait what???
Interlagos 70s: Can I join
Everyone: NOOOP
AVUS circuit: amateur...
Other circuits: What?
AVUS circuit: A M A T E U R S!
Indianapolis: say my name, say my name...
The narrow hallways in hotels you ran down as a kid on holiday:
“Keep talking bitches”
"ah yeah and now there should be a right and a left tu... wtf this guy is driving through whole belgium on a straight"
🤣
😂😂😂
He tried to invade Belarus
no.. only 14 km(8miles)
@@Motoripsthats the whole of belgium
Old spa woud definitely make the engine overheating.
Bahrain 2020 would like to speak to you outside.
No, the engine gets enough air to cool down at a constant 300+, and they can use a mexico like chassis for better cooling if need be
WEC would Love old spa
@@jorritvanderkooi939 but Mercedes will definitely have a problem if they are behind any car or two, they either get a slip stream and suffer overheating or escape the slip stream and be slow.
I think the tires would suffer too, for being at such high speeds for long periods of time, probably there would be tons of blistering and more frequent stops
Amazing how pretty much everything is flatout...
And it still took me almost 3 minutes to do a lap, crazy
edward furrow about 200 mph
Only 4 times the car braked:
-Eau Rouge (unlike today's flatout Eau Rouge).
-Les Combes (yep, that left-hander _was_ Les Combes).
-Approaching La Source (after 2 minutes of flaoutness and a couple of non-throttling kinks).
-La Source itself (only proper heavy-brake).
This circuit's run through the towns was crazily fast and long!!!
@@5furrow More or less in the third braking zone (approaching La Source). Consider also that La Source was further from when it sits today
@LeGM yep, but the topspeed gained (334kmh), if my maths sucks thats over 210-220 mph
Professor: alright class, now you can start the exam. 60 questions, 10 minutes. go.
My brain:
?
Maybe you're forget to disable a neuron limiter
My brain cells which are off:
Your brain be like: L AM FAST BOI L AM FAST AS F*** BOI
@@cristianoronaldosuiicr7 now im on my class... braincells: disabled
F1s of the '60s were basically tinfoil-made bathtubs suspended on four motorbike wheels with a 500 HPs. engine running on high octane, hyperflammable petrol strapped in their back, bottlecaps for brakes and no wings (and no downforce), let alone robotised gearbox or electronic driving aids, to help you. And they raced on this kind of track, such as this old SPA which makes the Nordschleife looking like a marble track in comparison.
Driving in Formula 1 in those years basically required complete indifference to end your career whether dead or alive... Surviving was a success in itself.
What a comment
Good old Green Hell, famously easy to drive
@@REGSTER1000 Not easy at all, but old SPA was probably even more of a deathtrap; the 1960 Belgian Grand Prix even has been the only occasion in which two drivers have been killed during the same race day (not counting the 1994 San Marino GP, with Ratzenberger losing his Life during practice, and Senna during the race).
@@TenorCantusFirmus I agree, but I would rather choose Paul Ricard for the marbles comparison then something so brutal and beautifull to watch like the Nordschleife :D
@@REGSTER1000 It just was an hyperbole, I wanted to emphasize how fearsome looked, and actually was old SPA.
“How much of this track is flat out?”
Spa - “yes”
So.. Why does NASCAR doesn't lear- ... Yeah, "learning" is a difficukt word, there.
I see why Ferrari removed their brakes
facts
Is this a joke or one of enzo's crazy ideas
@@ethanporciello8807 i recommend you watch Monza 2020
@@ethanporciello8807 joke, it's a reference
Only track with 9 DRS zones.
Ferrari would be 3 laps down by the end of the 1st lap this year . . .
And Williams at least 10 laps on last year car
Haas would actually spend some time on track.
Then they'd crash.
Mercedes would loose 2 laps each straight, due to "dirty air".
Race car drivers of the 60s were fearless holy crap
To get the full 60s experience you'd have to play this video at .5 playing speed
They dont even have fancy helmet and tires too
@@insertname8889 0,75 I'd say. Late 60s F1 cars weren't slow 😯
[[Insert Name]] because of the less drag, f1 cars would have been hitting almost the same vmax. A porsche 917 topped out at 220mph in the late 60s. Modern F1 cars aren't designed for top speed in the same way that race cars used to be.
@@insertname8889 this is a simulation of how it was before. Far scarier and surely not 50% of todays' speed (take into account the intro and outro timings)
th-cam.com/video/LGRQZwC7cv4/w-d-xo.html
so basically he's driving on a highway
Sort of
It's flat out for a modern formula 1 car, in the 60s they would definitely had to lift and brake in most of these corners. Remember, no downforce back then
Hala Madrid
welcome to the early days of Grand Prix racing...
The breaking for that final corner would be horrendous having gone basically a minute without touching the breaks!
Somehow, drivers where capable of breaking in the last corner back in the day. Even AMG Rot Sau, a big robust heavy ass car was capable to complete the 1971 24hrs of Spa. Well, those guys knew how to do it.
@@danilaodatunagem7193 It's not about the drivers, it's about the cars. Modern F1 brakes don't really bite until they reach 350°C.
@@aumpauskar4653 just have to start braking early to get it to temp
@@istoleurfaceha3527 Just feather the brake for about 10 second before the hairpin and they'll be up to temp.
An F1 race on this track will be impossible without refueling.
1966 F1 drivers: hold my seatbelt
Why? The distance would still be about 300km per race which would mean less laps than usual but not refuelling, they also don‘t have to refuel in Monza which is essesiantially full throttle too.
@@davidpape5548 True, I didn't remember the rules, about time and distance. Thank you.
@@kpruneri Back in 1966, many cars still didn't have seatbelt. And they drove on this kind of tracks!
Wrong
at one point watching this, I thought we were never gonna make it back to the starting line.
Freaking highway hypnosis on an F1 track
Hamilton tyres won't even last for 1 lap....
only on radio tho
Bonooooooo
”Bono my tires a dead” 10 minutes later, Lewis Hamilton won the Belgian Grand-Prix
_After Raidillon_
Bono, these tyres are dead
@Chad Eren you are 9 months late. But not too late.
Before 1971 spa was in fact the fastest track on the f1 calendar which is not surprising considering the amount of long straights and fast turns this track had
The great Jim Clark hated spa yet he still dominated at this daunting iconic race track by winning 4 years in a row from 1962-1965
60's drivers: those are super technical córners.
2020: Easy flat
Love the technology of our cars
ERS recharge - "Am I a joke to you?"
Bono, my engine is gone.
Hamilton still wins the race
Sbinalla
Get in there Lewis
Old Monza: "Speed. I. Am. Speed!"
Old Spa: "Hello there!"
I read this in Obi Wan's voice
@@fuzli You're one of culture, I see
AVUS : Guys, guys there's no need for a fight...
engeneer: "so how you want your brakes to be set up"
driver: "no"
No brakes on
With the actual cars speed it would be a 400 km/h track
One mistake or tire/brake malfunction and you could end up in someone’s house at 300+ km/h
This track was terrifying in Grand Prix Legends with the period correct cars.
Rip engine
R.I.P to the battery 😂
Wonderful. Can you do a lap of old Avus?
1:15 the dangerous Masta curve
I love how this ist pretty much eau rouge, raidillion and one straight... and then all of a sudden HAIRPIN xD
That hairpin is la source it still exists today
Damn. Respect to Dan Gurney, Jim Clark, Jackie Stewart, Graham Hill, Jacky Ickx, and the rest of them. True courage was required back in the day.
After out lap,
Lewis Hamilton: Bono, tyres are gone
Charles: THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE ENGINE!
Lando: ANTI-STALL!!!
Mattia: S🅱INNALA
I don’t blame you for closing DRS through Masta.
Wow they nailed the engine sound
2:35 This part sounded so weird cuz all we’ve been hearing is a flat out car for 2 and a half minutes lol
14.1 km in 2:52. Average speed: 295.8km/h. That's hard to wrap my head around.
Pescarolo has the record on a Matra 670 > 260 km/h
Pireli tyres: AM I JOKE TO YOU
60's drivers had some iron balls to run on this circuit. Respect for them.
ridiculous with a modern F1 car
What I'd really like to see is Max running a sim of Jim Clark's '65 car. Running today's cars is interesting but it doesn't reflect how difficult and scary the track really was.
Here's a period correct run:
th-cam.com/video/G5eVPUaPK-A/w-d-xo.html
Lewis: Bono, My Tires Are DEAD
Bono: Lewis, This Is The Formation Lap.
The old Stavelot is such a stunning corner! Really curious what it might look like if this was still part of the modern track🙃
It is my favourite place on the track. But we have to say that the Masta kink was the most dangerous part of any track in the world. This senction was extreme
deadly. Imagine that with wet condition.
@@ΣωκρατηςΦωτσηςone thing remember is there is a picture of Stirling Moss driving through Masta Kink with a broken suspension in wet condition. Those men in the 60s must be daredevils
Adding to everything that was already commented, it is worth noting how Raidillon has been smoothed over the years; I think that bringing back this older version of the corner would also bring back some sort of challenge to the drivers navigating the curve, and it would also help slowing down the speeds carried trough that zone (although, it would be at the expense of runoff area right after Eau Rouge).
Hi Mitsos, can you do a lap around Jarama, Pescara, Misano or Silverstone (the old layout) please. Thank you.
Yes, will do! Thank you for the suggestions
I'd add Montjuich Park to that list too.
50 seconds (23%) faster than John Surtees managed for pole position in 1966. With modern eyes it's hard to imagine how a track like this was ok to race on, even 23% slower. 7 out of 15 starters crashed out early in the 1966 race too.
That super long straight and then slamming the (cold) brake for the hairpin. Rip
“How many DRS zones does this circuit have?”
Old spa: yes
long live belgian hell
Hi! What about Mosport Park, Vallelunga and La Sarthe? Congratulations, great video!
Thank you! I've been waiting for someone to ask to do Mosport Park haha, I'll try and get all your suggestions done soon :)
What a freaking scarry circuit! No wonder it killed drivers by numbers in every race, not to mention the near death accidents. The new one is much better. But on a contrary note... I wonder if MV has ever done the original Interlagos circuit (favorite of drivers like Peterson and Villeneuve), and, ironically just about the same length as the current Spa layout.
Hamilton in the middle of the race : Bono,my tyres are dead:^
Old Spa would destroy modern F1 engines. The engines powering the f1 cars that raced at Old Spa were the Chads. Modern F1 engines are the Cheems.
Did this circuit cross into Germany and France too?
Which one was the most dangerous, Spa or Nürburgring?
Pretty sure Nurburgring was way more dangerous
2020 Ferrari, 5 Laps After Start (+5.min): What do u think about Plan C???
Holy Shit this Track is beautiful.
Holy Shit this Track must be boring to drive.
hamilton gets fastest lap in f1 history at monza 2020
old spa: back in my day
So...
"Flat around here"
"Flat around here"
"Bit of curb"
"And again... Flat around here"
Doesn't look like an F1 circuit. It feels like it's built for endurance racing.
こんなバリアも何もないコースでよく民家にフォーミュラーカーが突っ込まなかったな
Here comes the big braking zone after the kemmel straight..... Where the fuck is this going ?
It's basically eau rouge, flat out for 4 min, hairpin, repeat.
What’s the name of this game that I would like to dowload it?
Game name is Assetto Corsa, you can grab it on Steam for PC or on PS4/XBOX.
crazy to think about that Juan Manuel Fangio raced on this Circuit and won so many Title's back then.
I found this track very slow
I’ll admit it, at first I thought this was real and the comments about “great engine sounds” were supposed to be sarcastic. I play Assetto and I’m an F1 fan so I’m pretty buggered.
Thanks for that track video, but this track is quite booooooooring... Especially which this modern formula 1 cars. I guess, that races in the 66's have been very excited because of low downforce cars. But today the races will be very boring
Bit more careful at Eu rouge with the walls there
This track makes me feel like I’d lose my way around it
You're literally going through a town haha, would need directions just to get around the track
Mitsos1311 hahaha the drivers would need to change their MFD on the steering wheel to a GPS instead of the lap times
There was no need to change anything with this. Perfectly safe.
The curves are just slightly arced straight for any F1 from the late 1970's up to now. ONLY one actual braking zone and two ease off of the throttle curves. That was crazy.
Best Overtaking Spot: *_whole track_*
What did people smoke back in the day, I want some of that
Many brands of cigarettes
Why can't he go beyond 338kph even with DRS. Though the average speed would be crazy at around 300-320 kph
0:05 Safety First! (Hi, Marshalls! 😂)
Excelente circuito... Como seria con el DRS a fondo, seria todo un espectaculo.
1- There was no DRS.
2- DRS is "on" or "off".. No such thing as "Full-DRS" ("DRS a fondo").
3- It was already a show without the stupid DRS.
Seeing how easily the RB handled Masta, the most dangerous corner in all of Formula One at the time, was frightening. I just got off playing GPL before watching this, and getting your braking just right for Masta is terrifyingly difficult, especially where doing it even _slightly_ wrong would cost you _seconds_ per lap.
It looks that you're in a normal street with a formula 1 car
Old Spa will work for endurance racing
The track seems like an engine builder's nightmare
Makes LeMans look like Daytona.
For LeMans for WEC on Mulsanne you are flat out down that straightaway.
Daytona I’m talking Road Course.
Let me clear it. Is this a game? If yes, then WHAT'S ITS NAME!!?????
Game is Assetto Corsa
Fastest lap : 1 day 6 hour
House beside the circuit : i'm in danger
Wow this is much better then todays
Brakes?
Were we are going we don't need brakes
lol this is surely not Verstappen driving, or this was his 1st lap... also the setup is wrong, way too much DF and low max speed.
Haha do you imagine a warm up lap on this circuit? Would take forever and tyres would be cold by the end again lol
But yes you are right, I didn't use a very good setup in this video, trying to get better at it!
@@Mitsos1311 hey didnt want to grill, just the title a bit misleading i thought its actually verstappen as he games a lot
I always wondered why there were just no corners in those old circuits
Racing was a lot more about speed in those days, and not corners.
Eau Rouge is the most dangerous corner in 50's 60's 70's and 80's
2:35 this shit is so tasty
Man. I guess that an indycar with speedway specs would be faster, due its top speed and long straights.
DRS zone : the whole track
Its like stage one of a WRC rally, how bloody fast 😊
Two laps behind the safety car would probably take 90 minutes.
Do you actually need brakes?
This explains why so many people died on the old track. It looks like a complete deathtrap.
Hitting only between 330 and 340 km/h on such elongated full throttle passages is pretty lame, isn't it? I mean in 2004 F1 reached 370 in Monza! So I would expect some 380 to 390 on such long full-throttle passages.
old spa aka german autobahn
1:15 masta chicane :)
The Renaults would just blow up at the sight of the straight
If this would be where they woudl race now Mercedes would DOMINATE
What is the program you are running that on. I love messing around on the old circuit’s
Playing this on Assetto Corsa, this game allows so many mods that it's crazy. Playing on PC, you can find the mods of the cars and tracks in my descriptions!
Mitsos1311 It’s now available for the Xbox, I’ll have to check that out. Love racing the old tracks. If they are available on the xbox as well, that would be great.
Imagine running on a drs on the long long straight.