Top 10 Lost F1 Circuits - Abandoned Formula One Tracks - Improved Edition

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  • Top 10 Lost F1 Circuits - Abandoned Formula One Tracks - Edition 3
    This is an improved version of my Top 10 of Lost F1 Circuits. In this edition you got much more information and entertainment than in the older versions. This video contains a voiceover, maps with indicators and much more!
    All race tracks in this video are visited by me, Herman Liesemeijer. At this way I wish to thank all circuits that collaborated to this video and let me on the track.
    Special thanks to Simon Smith for the voiceover, and Yuri Bruschi for the guidance on the old Monza Circuit. You see him also in the Monza crash on the banking.
    Warning: If you continue you get information about my Top 10 of Lost F1 Tracks!
    10. Nivelles-Baulers 0:08
    9. AVUS Berlin 1:48
    8. Reims-Gueux 3:51
    7. Rouen-les-Essarts 5:52
    6. Montjuich Park 7:34
    5. Old Monza 8:49
    4. Old Spa-Francorchamps 11:10
    3. Österreichring 13:15
    2. Old Charade Clermont-Ferrand 14:39
    1. Old Hockenheimring 16:02
    Thanks for watching this video.
    Don't miss our new videos and subscribe to my channel. th-cam.com/users/Circuitso... Thanks for the subscribe :)
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  • @tdyerwestfield
    @tdyerwestfield 4 ปีที่แล้ว +765

    They created a simulation of the old Spa circuit and found that a 2018 F1 car would be at full throttle for 94% of the lap.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      Yeah for todays F1 it would be too fast. Even the current circuit is a lot full throttle. I rember in the 90's they brake for Pouhon, now they only lift a little for the first one.

    • @skandre7776
      @skandre7776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@Circuitsofthepast Pouhon became full throttle/small lift in qualy only after 2017 rules, they used to brake and downshift in V10 V8 era

    • @rockypupoxo
      @rockypupoxo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      But isnt that F1 is supposed to be ? Flat balls out racing ! Not like it is now with fuel saving on some tracks . The hybrid era maybe faster but its all about managing different modes on the car , Senna would have hated it .

    • @skandre7776
      @skandre7776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@rockypupoxo 94% on throttle is more like drag racing

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I agree with both skandre7 7 7 and rockypup1968. Todays F1 is more about fuel and tyres saving, while it should be about pushing to the limit. On the other way, a track which is 94% full throttle is not interesting. There should be a good mix of different corners. Not like the old AVUS (for example), but for sure also not like the modern Tilke track with the only fast corners after a very slow corner, so you tan take it easy flat out.

  • @waspassiertwenn8806
    @waspassiertwenn8806 4 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    We miss the old Hockenheimring!

  • @rockypupoxo
    @rockypupoxo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +425

    They ruined Hockenheim when they changed it , some brilliant races in both F1 cars and on bikes .

    • @SCYN0
      @SCYN0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Dont say they ruined it. It's still an insanely good track when u see the last 2 years were upon the best for centuries

    • @daijirokatoh3769
      @daijirokatoh3769 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Agree! It lost what made it Hockenheim

    • @carlcushmanhybels8159
      @carlcushmanhybels8159 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@daijirokatoh3769 And they completely removed much of the old track, e.g, the 'Jim Clark' big sweeping turn.! I read there were German tax incentives to destroy it and plant trees and hay-grass.

    • @skandre7776
      @skandre7776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@SCYN0 because it was raining, old Hocke had its character and was unique in terms of car setup only second to Monza. Currently in F1 most tracks demand similar medium or high downforce what makes things easier

    • @rockypupoxo
      @rockypupoxo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@SCYN0 its more like a mickey mouse kart track now compared to how it use to be , just my opinion , but its no where as good as it was .

  • @IIGrayfoxII
    @IIGrayfoxII 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I remember the old Hockenheim Ring from Formula 1 on the PS1

    • @magnussencube
      @magnussencube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      IIGrayfoxII you could cut the chicanes and drive sectors 1 and 2 flatout

    • @napoleonbonaparte7172
      @napoleonbonaparte7172 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I play F1WGP on N64 i miss that track playing as Häkkinen and win races

    • @MrDavidbiohazard
      @MrDavidbiohazard 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Its also on f1 2019

  • @arthurguitar
    @arthurguitar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    Hockenheimring was absolutely ruined. The length of the track meant you could have rain on one side and dry on the other. Wings basically at horizontal angles for straight line speed. They should never have changed it!

    • @betaorionis2164
      @betaorionis2164 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It was a great circuit: the nearly horizontal wings meant that the cars had very little downforce at the twisty Motodrom section, so it was tricky and mistakes were common.

    • @lenstrul5067
      @lenstrul5067 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel like they could convert that into a endurance track

    • @charlesklass4209
      @charlesklass4209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tilke only did what he did because the rest of the land was already sold to the local government, that's all he had to work with, and they wanted chicanes and massive runoffs too...crying shame but he did what he had to do

    • @dylanzrim3635
      @dylanzrim3635 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charlesklass4209 he was going to leave it original to the first chicane, then have a hairpin and a long straight to the senna chicane then as it is today... the local govt couldn’t even make that concession.

    • @WoddCar
      @WoddCar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the newer circuit is better, but I think they should have kept the old layout for other divisions of racing

  • @veronviper06
    @veronviper06 4 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    At least we can relive Rouen-les-Essarts, old spa, old Monza, old silverstone and old hokenheim in project cars 2

    • @poplaurentiu4148
      @poplaurentiu4148 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really wish the French 'Ring to be modernized and re-open, gosh by the few looks it was epic ! ;0)

    • @lordofkiwi5144
      @lordofkiwi5144 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@poplaurentiu4148 It will not happen... our governement hate everything related to speed and noise. They want us all in 50hp electric car.

    • @Brandon-oi4fq
      @Brandon-oi4fq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes

    • @casscroute8706
      @casscroute8706 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lordofkiwi5144 c'est assez dommage quand on se dit que c est les français qui ont inventé le sport auto

    • @saltbjorn
      @saltbjorn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wait Rouen is in pc2?

  • @paullindenfelser2323
    @paullindenfelser2323 4 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    The Hockenheim with the blast through the woods was one of my favorite tracks. I still have VHS footage of Nigel Mansell bounding over the kerbs at the chicanes on his way to a fantastic qualifying lap. The new layout is completely uninspired.

    • @davidellis5135
      @davidellis5135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      On F1 2001 on the PS2 if you jumped start, drove your car into the tree section and stoped in the middle of the road about 50 yards before the first chicane, the Ai cars would plow into you and cause spectacular multiple pile ups with cars flipping everywhere . I did load's. sometimes reversing a little helped, I still have that game .

    • @obez42
      @obez42 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My favourite of all time

    • @n4s117
      @n4s117 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      World Superbike was the series to see at Hockenheim bfore F1 destroyed it.

    • @MisterMister5893
      @MisterMister5893 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still take the new layout over some of the newer tracks which have no memory/heritage. You could argue new tracks need time to develop heritage and a fanbase but some just flat out don't have the requisites to do so. Russia? Korea? I'll temper my criticism a bit as Korea did have some good corners but economics wasn't in their favour. I especially like Velancia which in a way had charm and died off far too soon. The bridge, the tight corners, it was different.

    • @dmitriyfadeev646
      @dmitriyfadeev646 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The old Hockenheim was a great track, but races were not very interesting there. The fast cars ran away and there was not too much challenge. Monza has the same feature.

  • @leroyrs
    @leroyrs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I appreciate your passion for abandoned race tracks. You look at them and they still have the magic...What people did to the Hockenheimring is a shame. In 1992 I was there to see the F1 GP. (Senna, Berger, Mansell, Patrese, a young Schumacher) Never forget... in 1977 my parents took me to the old Nürburgring. I still regret for not having taken fotos with a cam. Even that this day was no race some training sessions of several touring cars were very amazing. I also remembered looking to the Südlurve and wondered what part of the Nordschleife that was and why no cars were driving there. I didn't know that this were the old Südschleife. Unfortunately I was too young to explore and my parents weren't intetested in more Nürburgring. Thx for your efforts to show us the abandoned tracks...Grüße aus Deutschland...

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Danke für das Teilen der Erinnerungen! Grüße aus den Niederlanden.

  • @DanySahne85
    @DanySahne85 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I'm from Germany and at first I say sorry for my bad English.
    I knew the old Hockenheimring very well, I was born not far from there. I must say that it don't like the new Hockenheimring because of the changing of the atmosphere. In the past there was a atmosphere like a stadium. Sure, the fans don't saw their hero's very often because one lap was very long. But the speed on the track was very high and the races where so spectacular because of the high-speed. The new layout (i think Hermann Tilke is one reason for that) is nearly boring. A typical Tilke-Track... I don't like it.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes Tilke designed the new section of Hockenheim, but he's not resonsible for the destruction of the old track. However, I don't like his designs neiter. They all have the same components, he copy pasted the corners from track 1 to track 2, 3 and so on. And most fast corners are after a very slow corner, so they are easy full throttle.

    • @remiicario
      @remiicario 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Circuits of the past he only did some little tweaks to his track designs (placement, elevation changes, etc.) but still made it boring lol

    • @DJLauth
      @DJLauth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They should save up money, find a sponser like RedBull, and invest in making the old section drivable again.
      But it will surely cost loads of money.

    • @remiicario
      @remiicario 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DJLauth they actually remade the track due to their own initiative. They know that track will be forgotten due to how simple the track is and feared that the track would be considered dull. But WHY they chose Tilke to design it?

    • @DJLauth
      @DJLauth 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@remiicario I know. Something about not selling tickets in the forrest section, was the official statement to remake the track, if i remember right.

  • @alancommaille7789
    @alancommaille7789 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Really enjoy this format with commentary and a track map. Great!

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you. A new video in this style is in production.

    • @carlcushmanhybels8159
      @carlcushmanhybels8159 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. I do wish the narrator/ producer would spend a bit of time (could be done on the phone) to learn and adopt correct French pronunciations. Rather than offhand mangled English ones.

  • @christophermathern6796
    @christophermathern6796 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great video. It makes me sad to see this being forgotten but I thank you for keeping the past alive

  • @TheSurlySoutherner
    @TheSurlySoutherner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    F1 should go back to Charade, looks a wonderful track and very picturesque, anything is better than the eye sore and bore fest that is Paul Ricard circuit!
    Very interesting video.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you. Charade would be a more technical track than Paul Ricard. On the other side, it would be more difficult to overtake there, and the safety could also be an issue. So maybe they would require adjustments that would ruin Charade.

    • @thethirdman225
      @thethirdman225 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Circuitsofthepast TV coverage would be all but impossible too.

  • @clonmeliw
    @clonmeliw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thank you for the time and effort you put into this video. I've made many of those pilgrimages myself - my wife thought I was the only one crazy enough to do so - because I love the feeling of the historic fabric and hearing the voices of ghosts. It's a moving experience to be transported backward in time but bittersweet to see the utter disregard for what for many of us is hallowed ground. Nothing says we cherish and venerate the memories you gave us like the sound of a bulldozer!

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. Now you can show you're wife you're not the only one :D Yes it's a bittersweet feeling exploring those abandoned circuits. On one side it's such a cool experience. On the other side it's motorsport history in decline.

  • @theoanderson3575
    @theoanderson3575 4 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    Rest in Peace Anthoine Hubert 💔🙏🏼

  • @stevesolo16
    @stevesolo16 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wonderful historic information. This insight goes to prove, to build truly great tracks, the whole town has to be behind it. In the U.S. it's all private money, and that doesn't leave us with enough large, new road courses. Here, we run inside an oval and up onto the banking. These are fun, but are a lot of the samething. These Euro tracks have a beauty unto each of them.

  • @dowhillsta
    @dowhillsta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I remember playing f1 challenge 99-02 , and then in the 99 season racing at the old hockenheim , I was impress on how long the track was .

  • @fw0756
    @fw0756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very enjoyable to see the old spa track ,dangerous and spectacular at the same time,no words can properly express the skill and daring the drivers of that era showed.🇦🇺👍

  • @gosportjamie
    @gosportjamie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It was Kieth Odor, also known as Kieth O'dor who died at Avus. He was the son of Jan Odor who started Janspeed. He was a very talented touring car driver who drove the rapid, but under-funded and under-developed Janspeed Nissans in the BTCC to some surprising results, considering the manufacturer power and spending they were up against, and were probably responsible for Nissan running a full, manufacturer funded team in the BTCC later in the '90s...

  • @zanclod
    @zanclod 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Excellent video and commentaries. It's very interesting to rediscover these old circuits

  • @DFN86
    @DFN86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for the video, my dad was a big F1 nut and many summer holidays were spent visiting these tracks (with my dad pushing his Renault 19 past the legal limit on the left over tracks/public sections). Have fond memories of exploring the grandstand at Reims-Gueux and have spent ages trying to find out where it was!

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing this story. Good to hear there are more people like me :D

  • @wschell4023
    @wschell4023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for a great TH-cam video. We took in some racing at Monza September 2018. Luckily found the tunnel to the infield for a great experience. While your video extends to present day I couldn’t determine how the old track relates to current track.

  • @MultiCOOLFRESH
    @MultiCOOLFRESH 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Amazing work and really good investiagations on these tracks. Keep it up :)
    MCF

  • @SCYN0
    @SCYN0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just wow. The effort and the story behind each track is really really interesting. Great TH-camr. Found a new Sub :)

  • @luclaan8165
    @luclaan8165 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love these videos. There is a chill vibe around them.

  • @philiptownsend4026
    @philiptownsend4026 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was an excellent and very interesting production. Nostalgic emotions in play now. Thank you so much.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome and thank you for your reaction.

  • @Wingyy1995
    @Wingyy1995 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    surprised Südschleife wasn't on the list
    but guess F1 didn't really race that part of the track

  • @Peasmouldia
    @Peasmouldia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Loss of the old Hock was a particular shame for me and other F1 fans here in Wiltshire as some teams would test their aero and gearing for the Hock here at Kevill Airfield.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes it was a good aternation of the calendar, even if it was not a technical circuit. Interesting information about Kevill Airfield. Thanks!

    • @GUNNERSIGHTZEROED
      @GUNNERSIGHTZEROED 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is that an incorrect spelling of Keevil?

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@GUNNERSIGHTZEROED I think so. I never heard about it untill Ian told me about it here. But after paste it into Google I learned it should be Keevil.

    • @Peasmouldia
      @Peasmouldia 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GUNNERSIGHTZEROED You are quite correct, I could probably misspell my own name. As to the testing, many F1 fans would show up for the tests as the engine noise could be heard for miles. A Renault V10 F1 engine is pretty distinctive!

    • @Peasmouldia
      @Peasmouldia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Circuitsofthepast Your right, I've lived here 50yrs+, so no excuse other than idiocy! Just an extra piece of information, at one of the Williams tests (1998 I think) the driver was some kid called Juan Pablo Montoya. Wonder what became of him?

  • @pilotthomas144
    @pilotthomas144 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super vidéo! Really love it! Thanks !

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WONDERFUL video.
    I really appreciate the effort you have put into it.
    Thank you.

  • @glauberbelo9602
    @glauberbelo9602 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You did a great job doing this video man 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @rickyprice7586
    @rickyprice7586 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very good and interesting video. I have visited the old banking at monza myself a few years ago. The history is amazing

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!

    • @rickyprice7586
      @rickyprice7586 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Two years ago I also visited imola to see ayrton sennas memorial. What a place

  • @DYNANiK.official
    @DYNANiK.official 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    05:34 cool to see the beauty is coming back to some old circuits

  • @W00000000000000
    @W00000000000000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was an incredibly informative video,
    Enjoyed massively

  • @Lebenslicht_eu
    @Lebenslicht_eu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really nice presentation! Thank you.

  • @beetesjuice
    @beetesjuice 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the update!

  • @thehooks3065
    @thehooks3065 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating video. Well done!

  • @Rackhage
    @Rackhage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice video! Thanks!

  • @AlconburyBlues
    @AlconburyBlues ปีที่แล้ว

    I love those shots of the classic Monza banking. One of my favorite GP tracks.

  • @mustang10141980
    @mustang10141980 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just discovered this video. Great work sir! Instantly subscribed!

  • @vheggem
    @vheggem 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great job as usual.

  • @antoinegruner2327
    @antoinegruner2327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video - keep going. it's history there. twice more interesting than BBC pre race track info... you learn more here than anywhere else.

  • @iainmcintosh9068
    @iainmcintosh9068 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tremendous upload , the good old days before health and safety took hold , was surprised how steep the bankig was at the old Monza is & Avus was even steeper, Epic .

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sitges-Terramar had the steepest banking, 66 degrees! Here a video with 5 steep bankings: th-cam.com/video/fDrAoLEmo5M/w-d-xo.html
      This video also need a remake with the AVUS included.

    • @firenerf2197
      @firenerf2197 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Circuitsofthepast THE STEEPEST BANKING IS AT SITGGS-TRREAMAR?! Man! I did NOT notice that!

  • @FlyBoyGrounded
    @FlyBoyGrounded 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this kind of thing. Thanks for posting!

  • @dutchsailor6620
    @dutchsailor6620 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember racing the Nivelles circuit very well. It was in the beginning of the eighties and we were competing some races in the Dutch national competition series after a previous year with to many lethal accidents on Dutch road circuits (think Man style including curbs trees and houses to spice things up a little). Even then the buildings surrounding the track were almost falling apart and trees were growing in the grandstands. Track surface was horrible with the bike (Z900 based) bouncing around and understeering in the great loop. Those were the days my friends......

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bedankt voor het delen van dit verhaal. Ik heb ook gehoord dat ze in die tijd voor de afwisseling het circuit tegengesteld reden. Ik heb er zelfs een foto van. Die kun je hier zien: www.circuitsofthepast.nl/nl-NL/nivelles

    • @dutchsailor6620
      @dutchsailor6620 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Circuitsofthepast : That's right, the circuit itself wasn't very challenging except for the big loop (it just kept going on and on and on...), but because of the wide runoff areas and the possibility to ride the circuit in two directions combined with adding or leaving out chicanes you could drive a different kind of track every weekend. I only remember driving the track clockwise direction. Another tricky thing of the circuit was that you mostly heated up your slicks on the right side (driving clockwise) but leaving the big loop you needed all the grip you could get on the left side of the tires to accelerate out of the 130 degrees lefthander that followed. Some exciting memories there.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I drove it only by car, but I remember the exit of the Big Loop. The short straight was just long enough to switch from the left to the right side and brake for the left-hander.

  • @ktmpasser
    @ktmpasser 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. Thank you.

  • @alexxconroy
    @alexxconroy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So cool. Thanks for this

  • @lepicvert1087
    @lepicvert1087 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I come from Clermont-Ferrand, so I know well the Charade's circuit. The deleted part is my sandbox when I ride my motobike. It is a big pleasure to discover other old F1 circuits. Thanks a lot !

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome! Yes it was big fun to drve the old part of the Clermont-Ferrand circuit. Especially the fast banked corner (15:11) before the long climb, where I overtake that slow driving car :)

  • @Katejsej
    @Katejsej 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It is crazy how you visited all these countries.

  • @JanBinnendijk
    @JanBinnendijk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great Video!.. I really like the old circuits.. I've been on the Nordschleife, Francorchamps and one day i sneaked through a fence to ride on the old part of Zandvoort..from the top of Hunzerug all the way to Tunnel Oost..
    also.. i've ridden Santamonica in Italy when it was still counterclockwise..
    The Local roads around Francorchamps still make you feel like you're on a racetrack..
    Also, i've driven some of these tracks in the "Grand Prix Legends" Game.. and Nivelles is quite a challenge..

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bedankt. Ik ben in 1989 vlak na de opening van het interim-circuit van Zandvoort ook eens vanaf het parkeerterrein het oude gedeelte opgereden. Eerst tegengesteld naar de hekken op de Hunserug (niet Hunzerug) en toen terug naar het Bos Uit. Aanvankelijk had ik nog aardig de gang er in, maar bij het Scheivlak liep een vrouw met haar hondje te wandelen. Toen besloot ik toch maar wat langzamer te rijden.
      Later toen het bungalowpark er stond kon je nog via een woonwijk de baan op, vlak voor waar ooit de Panoramabocht was. Maar al gauw hadden ze Tunnel Oost eruit gehaald en gebruikten ze een deel van het oude circuit als woonwagenkamp.

  • @nathaliestarlight6372
    @nathaliestarlight6372 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The voiceover kept me watching this ❤

  • @lowproscrumbum
    @lowproscrumbum 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Love the old Scirocco!

  • @EstebanGarciaPress
    @EstebanGarciaPress 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very good video! So sad what happened with original Hockenheim layout, it was one of my favourite circuits

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. Actually the version we now call old Hockenheim was the third version. The original version was the triangular street circuit. However, I agree they shouldn't butcher the old section through the woods. That was the only remain of the original layout and gave the track it's unique character.

    • @davefloyd9443
      @davefloyd9443 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jim Clark chicane, approached at full speed was what prompted Schwantz's infamous. 'Wait until you see God, then brake', technique description.

  • @CFS08
    @CFS08 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video, sad to see Hockenheim on first place but I totally agree.
    I remember watching Rubens Barrichello’s first win there in 2000 in a crazy rainy race. It broke my heart to see what they did to the circuit in 2002, an amazing and unique track was transformed into a regular and boring one.
    Glad they still make the classic circuit in games (not only Hockenheim) so we can have a shot of those good times.

    • @yoshikempenaers8621
      @yoshikempenaers8621 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nostalgia is a strange thing... The races on the old track were actually very boring

    • @CFS08
      @CFS08 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joske78 I agree somehow but I believe they were relatively boring because of the huge mechanical and technological gaps between the teams.

    • @yoshikempenaers8621
      @yoshikempenaers8621 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CFS08 Maybe you're right. All I can say is I personally find it a little tedious running long races on sims because of the (maybe to) long straights.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have also mixed feelings about the old track. It was absolutely not a great track as many fans claim. However, it was good for the alternation on the calendar. And what they did to the track is a shame and it was unneccesary. The old track may have been unpopular by most drivers and a little boring. On the other side it was an unique track with it's contrast between the woods and the stadium. Now they replaced the historic part of the track by an average modern section.

    • @CFS08
      @CFS08 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Circuits of the past Yes that’s exactly what I mean. It didn’t produce super exciting races but the track was unique. My nostalgia is much more about the circuit rather than the races.

  • @michelp976
    @michelp976 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for your videos!

  • @user-vq8pj7rw5k
    @user-vq8pj7rw5k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much for your content. good luck with your channel

  • @DjNikGnashers
    @DjNikGnashers 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating video, thank you.

  • @knowlesy3915
    @knowlesy3915 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you that Mayor of Rheims & the trust, it looks great & I wish more places honoured their former tracks better. (when possible)

  • @contracultura4111
    @contracultura4111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Real cool video. Thanks.

  • @ernestogasulla7763
    @ernestogasulla7763 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video, thanks. One comment; Montjuich does not qualify as "abandoned". It was a street track, and all the streets that formed it are still there in pretty good condition. Of course, it's crazy dangerous for today's standards, and having the dedicated Catalunya race track nearby there's zero chances it could ever be raced again. But it would be doable.

  • @Kiba520
    @Kiba520 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice Video. Thx!!

  • @billfunk3168
    @billfunk3168 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed your video !

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! Good to read that you enjoyed the video :)

  • @kevinnash851
    @kevinnash851 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really a good video.... I appreciate your efforts for the videos

  • @georgemaycock3201
    @georgemaycock3201 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @Pluvillion
    @Pluvillion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    *_"The gate of Nivelles inspired him in 2003 to start a website about lost circuits._*
    *_The name?_*
    *_“Circuits of the Past!”"_*
    And with that, I immediately tapped on the subscribe button with no hesitation. That actually made me smile, not gonna lie.

  • @sbatty65227
    @sbatty65227 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Used to love F1 at the old Hockenheim circuit. The blast through the woods was ace to watch.

  • @SnowdriftBoy
    @SnowdriftBoy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a beautiful channel!👏😊

  • @eddherring4972
    @eddherring4972 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    The word for Hockenheim is emasculated

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Or travesty. That's what I also heard many times about Hockenheim.

    • @ilikestuffandstuff4127
      @ilikestuffandstuff4127 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      De-balled.

    • @incorectulpolitic
      @incorectulpolitic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      just like married men and men in relationshits...

    • @willb3486
      @willb3486 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@incorectulpolitic sounds like you can't find yourself a woman

  • @chrisbaker2903
    @chrisbaker2903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember attending races at Riverside Raceway in Southern California. IMHO it was a great track as good as any in Europe. It was a fully complete track and had been raced on for years and years. It's now a housing tract. That sucks.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree, Riverside was a great track. In 2012 I visited the location. Unfortunately nothing reminds to the motorsport past of the site. See also this video: th-cam.com/video/RGNToJaUhXU/w-d-xo.html

    • @bloqk16
      @bloqk16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The aspect I loved about Riverside was the ability of the drivers to go 'wheel to wheel' with competitors; unlike Laguna Seca, that while it is in a picturesque setting, sees race lead changes happen due to pit stops.

  • @vefos09h85
    @vefos09h85 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool and interesting video. Keep going👍

  • @wernerschneider4460
    @wernerschneider4460 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting for a motorsports-buff like me. Great work.

  • @f1matt
    @f1matt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really interesting video!

  • @RC-tn7qs
    @RC-tn7qs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very great video ; so thank's ! And for the tracks abandoned by the Fomula 1 ; there is (about my house, but who receive now the France Lorry Race : Charade - Clermont-Ferrand) ; & Jackie Stewart say : "It's the world's best circuit". Friendly Circuits of the past

  • @Benjamin_Jehne
    @Benjamin_Jehne 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can‘t forget those screaming engines at Hockenheim in the 90s. I loved that track. I don’t watch races on the new version of the track. It’s a horrible, dead race track like most of the Tielke-tracks. His only good race track is Sepang.

  • @carsyoungtimerfreak1149
    @carsyoungtimerfreak1149 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top video! Dank je wel!

  • @wobbler6372
    @wobbler6372 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video . Watched the whole thing . Hockenheim change was the biggest shame in f1 track history . Just think how much money they would be making now if they have kept it for historic races

  • @GrrMeister
    @GrrMeister 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    11:10 *Belgian GP Circuit 1961 - I remember this well, after watching the Grand Prix Race sitting within inches of the track at Malmedy, after the road reopened did a circuit in my then Car the Fabulous Citroën DS19 and was absolutely amazed how quick they got around the track, I had to change down gears at many of the steep uphill sections. There looked to be a Thunderstorm Brewing so decided to leave and drove all night with my mates quietly sleeping away to Salzburg (no 3) where I had no idea of a Race Track being there, but bought an amusing metal plaque "Actung Sheifer Hund" I still have it today as have two Chihuahuas !*

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for sharing your story. In the 90's I visited the Belgian GP too. After the race the track went also open for traffic those day's. So in the evening I went back and drove some laps on the old track. And sometimes also on the new section, but this was actually illegal. In 2017 I visited the Salzburgring and made this slow onboard: th-cam.com/video/fXVlx4WDPRI/w-d-xo.html

  • @markoarkaina8656
    @markoarkaina8656 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really interesting, you've just earned a sub.

  • @YuriBruschi
    @YuriBruschi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    With Simon's comment on the images, the video is truly cultural!

    • @HigherPlainGames
      @HigherPlainGames 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Let's hope I said all the names correctly haha :)

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Actually no hahaha ;) But the audience understands what you mean.

  • @collectionmicsej3374
    @collectionmicsej3374 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good job , thanks from France !

  • @TracksideViews
    @TracksideViews 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I drove around the original (pre permanent track) course through Watkins Glen last year and it was amazing to think racing took place on those roads. I can only imagine that’s how some of these feel when driving on them.

  • @FlavioSpirit
    @FlavioSpirit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Que dor no meu coração ver esses templos da velocidade, abandonados dessa maneira......
    Muito triste......
    Mas muito obrigado pelo vídeo e parabéns pelo canal......
    Abraço do Brasil......

  • @Aesh-om2sz
    @Aesh-om2sz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I clicked on the vid because of the Scirocco but stayed for the beautifully well done video.
    Keep up the good work

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! Yes that was my silver VW Scirocco, when I visited Nivelles for the first and second time. Later I had another Scirocco and a Corrado.

    • @Aesh-om2sz
      @Aesh-om2sz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Circuitsofthepast Very lovely cars.
      My current Scirocco looks exactly like your old one :)

  • @lauscho
    @lauscho 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Frankly, having those old layouts of Hockenheimring, Spa-Francorchamps and Monza (as well as a couple other classic track layouts like the 60s version of Silverstone) is one of my favourite things about Project Cars 2!

  • @lexuslfaguy3758
    @lexuslfaguy3758 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love your channel about historical race track for f1 & other motorsports

  • @Zamppa86
    @Zamppa86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The current Tilke-Hockenheim is not Hockenheim. It's so far from the original and the most well known version with the long straigths through the woods with chicanes. Oh how I miss the 90s when Formula 1 cars sounded like race cars and screamed through the woods. The current Hockenheim and the current cars that sound more like vacuum cleaners are so boring compared to that.
    Thanks for the awesome video by the way! I did not know France had so many fancy looking tracks. It actually makes me wonder even more why the current French GP is on Paul Rickard which is also a very boring track. I would love to see Magny-Cours return...

  • @dewetloots1709
    @dewetloots1709 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanx for the adds
    Can't wait to watch all the other adds

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you sponsor me I can do it without ads ;)

  • @jefdamen2977
    @jefdamen2977 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much.

  • @thetruth7633
    @thetruth7633 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks, on Google Earth you can see the old lay-outs more clear in the past (using time stamps). Hockenheim old layout is still there in 10/2000.

  • @dylanzrim3635
    @dylanzrim3635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hockenheim was the beginning of the FIA changing tracks. Though the track management were the ones who commissioned the work, it was that work which started the trend of altering tracks, and the FIA just happened to choose the same guy

  • @jamesbehra2690
    @jamesbehra2690 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting content.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! By the way, your name seems familiar ;)

    • @jamesbehra2690
      @jamesbehra2690 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Circuitsofthepast Indeed... just a tribute to a forgeted man. Cheers!

  • @nickandrew1089
    @nickandrew1089 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would've liked to have seen the old Crystal Palace & Aintree circuits mentioned & shown on this post.
    Maybe you could do another video to include those historical circuits.
    Very interesting video though, thanks for posting.

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I visited both in 2018. Here the video's: th-cam.com/video/s-GshhwG2Ec/w-d-xo.html
      This top 10 is more from the urbex perspective. Maybe I make another top 10 where these circuits are shown/

  • @corat248
    @corat248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well done

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks. I used all feedback I got from my audience, so I think this is one of my best videos so far. From now, this is the quality that I strive for.

    • @corat248
      @corat248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Circuitsofthepast Ye you've done great with the past few videos. Kudos to you my guy.

  • @ccrider3435
    @ccrider3435 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:38 VW Rabbits?
    Great Vid Thx!

    • @Circuitsofthepast
      @Circuitsofthepast  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're welcome. There are always many rabits at Nivelles. Check also the latest video from Nivelles: th-cam.com/video/ymh1iQlJjfk/w-d-xo.html

  • @shayneramsay1388
    @shayneramsay1388 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The old Hockenheim was a brilliant track and my favorite on my F1 gaming calendar even being Australian I preferred it over the Adelaide and the newer Albert Park in Melbourne

    • @shayneramsay1388
      @shayneramsay1388 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Cini minis I remember hearing about Port Wakefield but never really saw anything of the track or what it was even shaped like

  • @pgale
    @pgale 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thx very interesting

  • @lukass.6609
    @lukass.6609 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Österreich Ring reminds of the the Salzburgring layout , with that first chicane and the fast banked corners.

  • @ricardolossoricardolosso8903
    @ricardolossoricardolosso8903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice job mate, pretty fun and nostalgic to watch

  • @lionelrosiere2062
    @lionelrosiere2062 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Reims in France or Charade in my region with a ancient wall near the golf of Manson.

  • @andipajeroking
    @andipajeroking 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice MX-3 :D

  • @searchforthelight.3287
    @searchforthelight.3287 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these small, abandoned sections, that they not even used for public roads. Thickly surrounded by all these bushes and trees!
    So old...so peaceful and quiet...