V8 Supercar/NASCAR swap at the Circuit Of The Americas

James Courtney has taken the wheel of a NASCAR while 2004 Sprint Cup Champion Kurt Busch has tried his had at a V8 Supercar. The swap took place at the Circuirt Of The Americas ahead of the V8 Supercars debut on 17-19 May 2013.

[@johncase8534]

l wish the V8 supercars would come back to the US certainly a treat to watch them on their home turf in Australia

[@tr1338]

Bathurst is definitely on my bucket list. I've had the privilege of seeing Nascar, Indycar and F1 in person.
When I saw Darrell Waltrip take a lap at Bathurst in a V8 Supercar, I knew I've got to get there someday.

[@aussiebattler96]

News i've been hearing is they want to go back to US Soil to race and one of the drivers want to tackle one of the NASCAR thunderdomes

[@aussiebattler96]

@@tr1338 Its a tough bit of road ill tell ya, good thing is you can drive it every day as its a local road

[@doctor_disco5623]

Awesome comparison of two racing leagues that probably started out very similar and then slowly diverged from each other like alligators and crocodiles. Love how they used the two cars that are the most related too

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

For what it's worth the Australian series originally wasn't dominated by big V8 cars, MOPAR and Holden had 6-cylinder cars in the 70s and all through the Group A era the V8 cars were at a disadvantage to the turbo Ford Sierras and Nissan Skylines. Supercars is a silhouette touring car series, more like DTM.
The fact NASCAR and other stock car racing in the US always focused on ovals meant the cars evolved in a different direction from early on compared to international touring car racing. NASCAR roll cages were way more serious much earlier than what was normal in any sort of international touring car series and the cars were silhouette cars from '65 onwards.
A good example of how touring car racing and stock car racing rules started diverging very early would be to look at how Trans-Am shifted their rules just before the 'Golden Era' began to make the cars more like NASCAR Grand American cars even if it meant they were no longer aligned with FIA Group 2 regulations. Roll cages started to become primary structural elements instead of being additions to the factory unibody, for example. Eventually they ended up as all silhouette cars, meanwhile most of the rest of the world focused on production touring car and GT racing.
Nowadays silhouette cars dominate in Japan, Australia and Germany too, almost like the Yanks were on to something in the 80s.

[@jaxonjaxoff3291]

That is one of the best comparisons I’ve heard. Like they’re very similar. In terms of great racing, engine, hp, and driver talent.

[@comengsh]

how come i didnt see this sooner? my two favourite motorsports finally meet!

[@KUSHDFIFA]

The nascar chevy ss has no relation to a road version, but the chevy ss is a rebadged commodore in itself

[@iViking90]

The Chevy SS is just a rebadged Holden VF Commodore

[@johncarl5505]

iViking i don't get it

[@GS-cy8iy]

iViking Thats true in name when talking about v8 supercar and a nascar . Nascar has not race anything that looks like a car from the factory in years . V8 supercar is closer to a stock looking vehicle than nascar will ever be . I'm not saying it is exactly like a ss or commodore but its closer than what nascar has . Remember the saying win on Sunday sell on Monday . That is what they use to say in early days of nascar , but not anymore .

[@bradlinsley8028]

G S Yes all that you said is true.. The only major differences between the road going and race going Holden is that, The Race Car has a more powerful engine and is actually shorter than a road car by about 100mm

[@TheMW2informer]

It’s also a gen 2 Pontiac G8 if it would have survived

[@nathancraus7043]

XD just cringed when they said that

[@Nobody-eg8ti]

The nascar is quicker in a straight line and probably better under acceleration but doesn’t have enough aero or a good enough suspension set up to keep up in the corners

[@QuickGaAaamezorSTUdioQG54B1TCH]

~__^ yEs!! Full [onboard] footage of this NEEDS to air on SPEED-tv

[@HylianRacer]

I would love to go to a v8 supercars race

[@aussiefirie]

If you ever do get to go to 1, the Bathurst 1000 is the race to see live

[@discoball3709]

DaveVisPassion4Racing I haven’t been to a supercar race in my life. I’ve only been to a monster jam (pretty cool) and a Sydney drag race.

[@aussiebattler96]

@@discoball3709 Trust me its bloody amazing to see in person, loud as fuck and fast as all hell.

[@mysticS197]

if nascar raced at cota that would be cool

[@Thomas-ib9iu]

they are trying but they have a contract with Texas Motor Speedway that says that they can't race anywhere else in the state of Texas.

[@mysticS197]

Thomas Brigman wow

[@davyt0247]

Thomas dang it!

[@troyandrade435]

They are now! Just announced it for the 2021 season!!!

[@perhapscoleiro3164]

Yeah but not in the rain apparently

[@andysparks1973]

They never lighned them up 1 2 1 .

[@koro287]

talk talk talk

[@CyPhaSaRin]

All that momentum to end up with all the greats gone, Holden dead, Volvo gone, Nissan gone. Abu Dhabi gone, CotA gone.. it's a joke.

[@1teamski]

Super cars trump NASCAR.

[@griffinfaulkner3514]

You'd be surprised. While they don't have the same aero grip, a Sprint Cup car has incredible amounts of mechanical grip and more than enough power to make up the difference everywhere else.

[@comengsh]

@@griffinfaulkner3514 do you mean just a cup car? sprint stopped sponsoring the cup series a long time ago.

[@griffinfaulkner3514]

@@comengsh Yeah, just remembering the glory days, back when the engines weren't choked down for the sake of "competition."

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

@@griffinfaulkner3514
Reliability and cost too. Detuned engines don't blow up as much and cost controls encourage competition. There's a reason why that's the norm in literally every single category of motorsports these days.

[@griffinfaulkner3514]

@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 Lopping 400 odd horsepower off of an engine's output without actually changing the basic engine architecture doesn't do much in the way of reducing costs. Modern cup car engines are still perfectly capable of pushing over 900 horsepower without issue, still rev over 9k rpm (insert overused meme here), and still cost roughly the same to produce. Am I asking for them to use all 900 all the time? No. Am I asking for them to at least match the power they were making in the 80's, and give the cars enough power to actually pass each other? Yes. The 550 horsepower package was an abomination that both drivers and spectators hated, because the drivers couldn't really DO anything with the cars due to lack of passing power, and the on-track action suffered massively as a result. Even INDYCAR had more power on the ovals, where they've traditionally been down 200-300 horsepower, depending on the track. If they wanted to increase reliability and reduce costs, they ironically could switch to smaller modern DOHC engines that can much more easily be built to make that level of power, at the same RPM, with less insane levels of build precision being required. The Nissan VK56 engine, for example, can handle incredibly high RPMs with just upgraded rods, pistons, and basic valvetrain upgrades. The Coyote likewise can rev past 8k on a completely stock valvetrain without noticeable effort. Both of these engines, in race trim, are capable of punching out over 700 horsepower NA with ease.