Part of the reason Greg Murphy's lap was called lap of the gods and has been so revered is because at the time there was very little between competitors in quite an even competition, yet he took over a second (1.09 seconds to be exact) off the previous record. The lap of the gods record stood for 7 years, a testament to just how good it really was.
Supercars engines are being limited rather than getting faster tho, next gen supercars wont have the hp/torque current ones do although obviously handling only improves over time..
As much as I hate Greg Murphy, his lap was absolute perfection and probably will never be matched. The reaction from John Bowe and fact the whole pit lane (Ford and Holden) gave him a standing ovation says it all
Ian, you have to find a way to watch Bathurst live this year. It would be at some ridiculous time for you. Here it starts 10am and finishes late in the afternoon.
No I think it'll start around 6pm for him (US Central time?) so it wouldn't be at a ridiculous time. Just need to find what channel. Not sure if they show the Supercars in America anymore. Unless he can get Canadian channels.
@@michael49777 I just did some quick google searches, Sean Seamer has confirmed that the race will start at 12pm this year. Channel 10 has agreed to hold back the news until the race finishes
The thing that made Greg Murphy's lap in 2003 special was the dominance he had over the field. In the shootout, positions 2 to 10 were spread by about 1 second, which just shows how close the cars were. Murphy's lap was another 1 second faster than 2nd place. That's why all of the other teams in pit lane came out to applaud him, he had just done what was considered impossible. Not trying to take anything away from the laps of McLaughlin or waters, they were also great laps, just explaining what made Murhpy's lap unforgettable.
One the most memorable moments for me, apart from famous victories, is Jamie Whincup running out of fuel on the last lap, his team failed big time, he was the fastest driver all day but he and the team messed it up, pretty sure it was 2015
What everyone seems to overlook about that is that the reason Whincup was so low on fuel was because Paul Dumbrell beached the car at the chase, and they had worked their way back up to 3rd or 4th or something, from around 23rd. I think the plan was to short shift till the end to try and pick up a podium place, but a few cars got taken out in front of him and suddenly he was in the box seat for a win. The team never failed him at all, he still finished 5th. Had they pitted him earlier he wouldn't have been in the top 10
@@arkhsm and Morris putting it in the tire wall haha, I met chaz on the Friday night in pits after he was DQ and I said tough luck mate he said “anything can happen on the mountain” what a bloke what a race
Obviously there was the Formula 1 record by Jenson Button, but for V8 Supercars standards, I believe it was set by Scotty McLaughlin, 2019. It was definitely close for Cam, but Scotty’s lap will always stand for me
@@nickycrea6075 I never understood the whole situation fully. I knew there was speculation about them cheating with engine power I believe, but wasn’t entirely sure about the shootout time, if it was kept or not.
@@GoSoFly basically there was a minuscule amount of valve lift in the engine, with no overall power gain. Supercars disqualified them from the shootout because of the valve lift. But when the Supercars did a dyno test for the engine it showed it was not over the horsepower limit. Only 3 of 8 valves.
@@ZachRattray Ahh I see, so the shootout time wasn’t kept, and I believe the victory wasn’t kept for them either? I only saw bits of the controversy so I’m not 100% sure, but I’d like to think the race result wasn’t kept
This might interest you, shows what happens when it all turns to crap at Bathurst - Bathurst 1000 Crashes: Biggest Crash Of Each Year: th-cam.com/video/1IJGwadOwPg/w-d-xo.html
Personally i hate the new racing. I know im only young but i really prefer the older ones like in the 70’s when the teams were dealerships & the cars actually looked like the ones you could buy. Win on Sunday sell on Monday. Also just letting you know, that whine you hear is from the supercharger in the engine shoving air in the engine.
This lap was even quicker than Scotty McLaughlin's this is a fantastic lap. But my favourite is still Greg Murphy's lap of the gods then Scotty McLaughlin's and you could put this right at the top too.
@@Dylang01 Except it no longer is the single best V8 lap around Bathurst. It's disappointing that Murphy's lap gets some sort of legendary status but those who have bettered it don't.
@@dnag247 that's beautiful. I've always said Oz is like our big brother. You're kind of better than us at everything, but we got rugby. It the one thing we do well consistently. And, the occasional time we beat you in cricket, is awesome, but, I, we, love the rivalry.
in 2019 scott mclaughlin went faster then cam, it was the fastest lap ever being a 2:03.3sec, but deleted to some kind of problem which supercars stripped him of, def worth a watch
Lets just say that things appear so much steeper when you're driving from the top of the mountain down to the top of Conrod Straight - I did it 35 years ago in a road car at low speed, and I was still crapping myself!
One of the best laps I think I vote for caz m driving a BMW In the 12 hour shouldn't haven't been in the top ten and put on pole against top sport cars
Lap of the gods driven buy Greg Murphy will forever be the best lap in my eyes due to the fact it was a car you had to drive ie Manuel h pattern gear box less computer controls lest computer tech all together
@@IWrocker you can sign up for Superview on the Supercars TH-cam channel. I’m pretty sure it costs money but I think that’s the best way to watch it live
To me I don't think it looks as fast as Scotty McLaughlin's or Greg Murphy's the camera shots are a little different and Scotty's Car sounded so much better.
I believe Scotty's lap from last year is the actual fastest lap, but it got stripped from him due to a problem found with engine. Which they believed gave him an advantage, but was proven by multiple mechanics and engineers that it would gave him a disadvantage, but yeah
Christopher Mies holds the official lap record in an Audi R8 Ultra GT3 with a time of 1:59.2910 Jensen Button holds the unofficial lap record in a Maclaren-Mercedes MP4-23 with a time of 1:48.8
McLaughlin still technically has the 2019 pole. Though most people will say they cheated with the engine, but it was found that it had no overall advantage. 2019 lap time was a 2:03.37. And that’s still technically the fastest lap in a Supercar.
@@nickycrea6075 the disqualification was pretty much bullshit… a few millimetres of valve lift proven to have no advantage shouldn’t merit a DQ. Just the way I see it. And the fact that there was no gain with the engine shows that the lap Scotty did was just perfect. Although that lap may never be counted in the record books, to me and to many people that lap is the fastest in a Supercar.
@@ZachRattray the way you see it and the supercars engineer see it is completely different. I'll take the word of someone who is qualified and works with these engines daily over a whinging fan
@@nickycrea6075 I understand what you’re saying. And get that you think I’m whinging, but I’m not. All I’ve heard is that there was no gain or advantage from that engine. And the dyno the Supercars did proved the engine did not breach the permitted horsepower
Even thou Greg Murphy’s lap was such a great lap no one comes close to Alan Moffat’s 1971 qualifying lap who lowered the lap record by from 2min 48.9.to 2min 38.9 and was 3 seconds quicker than the next car
Too many variables in the 70s times. The cars, even within teams, were often a fair amount different. It was an awesome lap time for sure, but even right through to the early 90s guys are now open to admitting how they cheated.
A few years ago at the Bathurst 12hr, back when it was a production and invitational race, there were some Fiat 500 Abarths that were lapping Bathurst quicker than Moffatt’s Falcon.
@@pokinacha Yes - amazing how tire, brake and suspension technology has progressed since Alan Moffat's days. But comparing 'apples to oranges' between the modern technology Arbarths and Alan Moffat's somewhat of a 'dinosaur' race vehicle can only ever be for a 'look how far things have progressed' type scenario.
Love your channel. For relatively few subscribers (no disrespect) you connect so well with your viewers because you are humble!.... I know your channel is gonna be huge soon :) PS hello from a Kiwi stranded in Oz right now!
I also BET that if you had a in Prime Peter Borck Champion in a Modern V8 youd have the Fastest Lap of All time Garuanteed! These young Drivers have it too easy in with Modern Equipment. If you Starpt one of these Drivers in a 20yr old Car theres No Way theyd even come close to the Legends of the Past. That And 2 door Coupes shouldnt be allowed as All Other V8 Supercars were all 4 doors Sedans
Having been in several 1000+HP street cars and a couple of V8 supercars over the years, I found the most impressive part is the braking and turn in. Its ridiculous how hard they pull up and the steering angle into tight corners is unbelievable. Had a few laps around Winton and it was great fun
Ian - tell Dani we are all waiting for the cook and share the 'Meat Pies' episode - else - even better making your own homemade meat pies from short pastry bottoms with chunky beef and mince gravy filling with flaky puff pastry lids. there heaps of how to's on YT Dani could start here th-cam.com/video/CmrN5XWt-Uo/w-d-xo.html. It may help to research how to eat a meat pie before you burn yourselves and the kids.
You need to visit Bathurst to truly see how steep the climb is up the mountain, the speed across the top, the twisty run down the other side. Even if you are not a racing fan it's a spectacular experience.
Any Car can go Fast on this Track, But the Ford Mustang isnt the Fastest Australian Car on Burthurst Lap. Aka There are alot of Cars that can go faster than this but ist not a True Aussie V8 Supercar.
Love watching your videos mate! The cars are setup differently for the shoot-out compared to the actual race. Basically to go faster in the shoot-out. I've had a drive on the track (as it's a public road) even at 60k's it is an incredibly tight track with a tonne of blind corners. It's a real credit to the blokes on the field 💪
Best weekend you could ever have, if you love the V8"s, a very sad ford fan, now it's the American James Hardi 1000. don't watch or support the sport anymore.
you should check out the 1985 Australian touring car championship, show some love for the Volvo 240 in the 80's, showed the v8's of the day, what was up. volvo also have a funny thing with the rules and homogenization cars to compete, and a very strange workaround.(dont know if that rule was for oz, elsewhere, or global) old aussie racing is cool in general, some of the old, old bathurst videos are mental(the black and white vids)
Not as good as the old days when cars resembled what you could buy from a dealer - standard blocks, gearbox, diff and brakes. Yes, blue printed and upgrade clutch and brake pads but the essence of the car was available to the general public. Seeing Brick, Moffat, Bond, Grice and Johnson punt them around Bathurst was far better. I believe at the end of Group C they were doing 2:12. So, in 49 years we’ve cut 9 seconds off using cars with race based motors, race brakes, big wings, special suspension, sequential gearboxes and special bodies.
Watching this live with no idea of the outcome was pure magic, I don't really watch the Supercars series anymore but I always make sure to watch Bathurst
V8 Supercars going to 'Gen 3' next year. Ford Mustang Vs Chevy Camero, lots of excitement about this!!! See overview video here: th-cam.com/video/5kwuGBPYr8U/w-d-xo.html
They have straight cut gears, that’s where the whine comes from, same as when they ran the gearbox at the front, I think it was a Holinger 6 speed back then.
Yeah, in fact not a diff. But as micnstacetube points out, its the straight cut gears that make most of the noise, which is why you don't get them in your road car, even though they're better.
1 thumb down from a Holden supporter! The overcast conditions would help the drivers. A cool and rubber rich track = speed. From 2011 (th-cam.com/video/C86s4LH1gU4/w-d-xo.html) he spun out at Skyline, recovered and didn't hit anything! 1:31 Funny seeing the splash for the Panther/ Rabbitohs match considering that the Panthers beat my South Sydney in the Grand Final!
Well done Cam. Congradulations Mate. Dont forget to check out Scott McLaughlin in America, IndyCar. Alongside Scott Dickson, and Will Power. They're 3 more races to go , to end the season. ( iz 3 or 2 ? )
Hi there from a Fellow Iain ( not sure if your spelt Ian or Iain ) from Brisbane Australia look up a video on youtube under Jordon Cox Bathurst and it will blow your mind.
Australian Supercars is the best Motorsports in the WORLD - Far more exciting than F1. As a race team owner with a husband who races at Bathurst I can tell you that, no matter how many times he goes to Bathurst, the aura and gravity of this super circuit always overwhelms him. Rock on Australian Supercars and Australian Motorsports 🏁🤘💀🤘🏁
like a snipper shooting dead centre at 1+ mile. I dare say, when your trying to shave time off to that degree the air temperature, windspeed and direction, humidity, barometric pressure, track temprature, tyre temperature...
1971 Hardie fedora 500 Bathurst , brought to you by Sydney wins , will give you a idea of what the Bathurst 1000 was like in early days , was called production car racing ( which is racing cars how you could buy them from the dealers )
Hey dude, cool vid - just stumbled across it. Someone may have already mentioned, but you have to see Waltrip’s ride-along lap in 2011 - bloody hilarious! th-cam.com/video/kLkLtBkUVuo/w-d-xo.html
Mate you can’t compare Greg Murphy to the “modern day” Greg Murphy done it with H pattern manual not sequential. And a completely different setup car wise! That’s why Murphy is the lap of the gods!
everybody always states how die Gruene Hoelle is the coolest/baddest track on the planet. I think Mt. Panorama's track is better. I mean, there's a car named after a section of it, and that car's nick-name is due to its dominance there. Then again, it may be cuz I've done the Ring, but have yet to try Oz.
I'm sure someone has already told you in the comments section. That whine you hear are the 'straight cuts gears' of the gearbox. Most road cars have 'helical cut gears' which makes them quieter, but no where near as strong as straight cut gears. The SC gears lose full contact when you back the throttle off.
If u can check out Craig Lownsde 10 best moments at Bathurst , Craig Lowndse is Peter Brocks Prodigy , if Peter Brock is the king of the moutain Craig Lowndes is the Prince of the mountain ,
A Seppo making a Channel about himself commenting on Aussie legends. Dude,kick the empty cans of Bud out of the way and step out into the fresh air and get a job.
Its the fastest V8SC lap, not the fastest overall. SVG was quicker in the Bathurst 12 hour in the Mclaren GT3 but the V8SC has to work harder to be as quick as the GT3 cars. Always wanted to see a V8SC engine in a LMP car. That would be pretty nice to see.
Man I live not far from this track / public road and I have driven around it. "Forest Elbow" at 60KMH / 37MPH is bat shit crazy in a standard road car. You need to get your backside trackside to appreciate just how fast them cars are going. TV replays do not give this track / public road justice. Oh the views are cool too.
This is a thing right. People rave on about Scotty Mac's fastest lap, which was fantastic - however 12 months later Cam beats it and it almost goes under the radar.
murphy did it in a dirty rotten raw VT commodore! no where near the same car as a 2020 mustang! murph was an insane driver! cam waters would not go close to murphs lap in the same exact VT!
That’d have to be the biggest amount of bullshit ive ever read here 😂 dont look up the comparison videos or else your idea of reality will be in tatters
Transmission, sequential transmission rear differential gearbox, not the tranditional sequential or gearbox that located at the mid piont of the car. Nascar is using the same transmission setup for 2022 for the new nascar as v8 supercars.
You seem to like waters. So maybe you should look up chaz and cam crashes from Bathurst to the bend, those 2 just couldn't help it even after chaz moved teams they still kept getting into each other it's like the car had magnets on them.
Part of the reason Greg Murphy's lap was called lap of the gods and has been so revered is because at the time there was very little between competitors in quite an even competition, yet he took over a second (1.09 seconds to be exact) off the previous record.
The lap of the gods record stood for 7 years, a testament to just how good it really was.
Supercars engines are being limited rather than getting faster tho, next gen supercars wont have the hp/torque current ones do although obviously handling only improves over time..
not to mention he did it in a stick shift
As much as I hate Greg Murphy, his lap was absolute perfection and probably will never be matched. The reaction from John Bowe and fact the whole pit lane (Ford and Holden) gave him a standing ovation says it all
That right there put it above everything.
That standing ovation from the pinnacle of Aussie racing drivers tells the story. @@user-pl5ds8iz6q
As someone who's done a few V8 Supercar hot laps, yes they grip, they go around the track like they are glued to it. The setup is awesome!
So do Porsche Mercedes Aston Martin Lamborghini Ferrari Audi Bmw ect
Ian, you have to find a way to watch Bathurst live this year. It would be at some ridiculous time for you. Here it starts 10am and finishes late in the afternoon.
It's starting early afternoon this year, not sure of the exact time
No I think it'll start around 6pm for him (US Central time?) so it wouldn't be at a ridiculous time. Just need to find what channel. Not sure if they show the Supercars in America anymore. Unless he can get Canadian channels.
@@Streetw1s3r im sure ian will see it supercars will have a discord viewing surrly
@@johnrobinson3642 11 am as always.
@@michael49777 I just did some quick google searches, Sean Seamer has confirmed that the race will start at 12pm this year. Channel 10 has agreed to hold back the news until the race finishes
For an alternate beautiful/stunning view, take a look at the Philip Island Race Track.
Very interested in learning about that track! Thanks
@@IWrocker Philip Island IMO is best for MotoGP
@@IWrocker Phillip Island is a great track for GT cars.
th-cam.com/video/53dGuWfo6bw/w-d-xo.html
Are you from Victoria Lyn
Cam has come a long way
Friggin Ford won the competition against Holden…. Cause they outlasted them…. The day they have no Holden’s in the great race will royally suck!😳
Not long unfortunately
the day Aussie fords were replaced with imported fords sucked too, having said that Holden did the same thing didn't they.
Gear whine, straight cut sequential gearbox, i beleive, is what they use.
The thing that made Greg Murphy's lap in 2003 special was the dominance he had over the field. In the shootout, positions 2 to 10 were spread by about 1 second, which just shows how close the cars were. Murphy's lap was another 1 second faster than 2nd place. That's why all of the other teams in pit lane came out to applaud him, he had just done what was considered impossible. Not trying to take anything away from the laps of McLaughlin or waters, they were also great laps, just explaining what made Murhpy's lap unforgettable.
You nailed it and that’s why I also rank Murphy’s lap at the top
Well, what about Moffat's lap....7 seconds ahead of the next guy on biscuit tyres !!
Also Greg's Lap remained unbroken for many years , with Gen 2 and Cotf the record was beaten nearly every year .
Is that the year he was doing faster and faster laps and he I was at the front from start to finish
He also used H pattern gearbox back then aswell
My favourite driver cam waters
Bondi Rescue!!! You will love it lol.
Scotty Mac actually did a 2.03.3 lap in the 2019 shoot out at Bathurst but he was disqualified for a supposed engine breach.
Supposed engine breach it was both proven and admitted to
One the most memorable moments for me, apart from famous victories, is Jamie Whincup running out of fuel on the last lap, his team failed big time, he was the fastest driver all day but he and the team messed it up, pretty sure it was 2015
2014 when chaz mostert won🤙
Whincup is the only driver that I know of to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory 3 times in a row.
What everyone seems to overlook about that is that the reason Whincup was so low on fuel was because Paul Dumbrell beached the car at the chase, and they had worked their way back up to 3rd or 4th or something, from around 23rd. I think the plan was to short shift till the end to try and pick up a podium place, but a few cars got taken out in front of him and suddenly he was in the box seat for a win. The team never failed him at all, he still finished 5th. Had they pitted him earlier he wouldn't have been in the top 10
@@ryanpipeline2559 From LAST place on the grid, no less !!
@@arkhsm and Morris putting it in the tire wall haha, I met chaz on the Friday night in pits after he was DQ and I said tough luck mate he said “anything can happen on the mountain” what a bloke what a race
I'll be surprised if we don't see a 2:02 this year . Although track temperature in December might be a little tricky .
Tyre melting temperature in December
aslong as they can keep the intake temps down i dont see why they couldnt, so much grip available when the roads melting lol
Obviously there was the Formula 1 record by Jenson Button, but for V8 Supercars standards, I believe it was set by Scotty McLaughlin, 2019. It was definitely close for Cam, but Scotty’s lap will always stand for me
Yeah Scotty’s lap that year was a 2:03.37 just perfection
too bad Scotty's time was disqualified. hell of a driver, shit cheating team.
@@nickycrea6075 I never understood the whole situation fully. I knew there was speculation about them cheating with engine power I believe, but wasn’t entirely sure about the shootout time, if it was kept or not.
@@GoSoFly basically there was a minuscule amount of valve lift in the engine, with no overall power gain. Supercars disqualified them from the shootout because of the valve lift. But when the Supercars did a dyno test for the engine it showed it was not over the horsepower limit. Only 3 of 8 valves.
@@ZachRattray Ahh I see, so the shootout time wasn’t kept, and I believe the victory wasn’t kept for them either? I only saw bits of the controversy so I’m not 100% sure, but I’d like to think the race result wasn’t kept
fun fact, Cam Waters won a reality show when the kelly brothers put up a spot for the winner to take a spot to drive the Bathutst 1000
Another fun fact is he also races sprintcars, and isn't a slouch in them, either
th-cam.com/video/Q4ZxJsEe-JM/w-d-xo.html
@@timjohnun4297 legend for plugging the video as well
I remember watching that show lol, it was sponsored by Shannons Insurance, good times
Shannon's Supercar Showdown
👁👁😊😊🐕🦺👍🍺🇦🇺 I probably shouldn’t admit to this but I’ve been down Conrod faster than that on a bike , opp,s 👹👺👍🇦🇺
Incorrect, the fastest lap around Bathurst was Scotty with a 203.3783s pole lap!! Please make a follow up corrected video please!
This might interest you, shows what happens when it all turns to crap at Bathurst - Bathurst 1000 Crashes: Biggest Crash Of Each Year: th-cam.com/video/1IJGwadOwPg/w-d-xo.html
Personally i hate the new racing. I know im only young but i really prefer the older ones like in the 70’s when the teams were dealerships & the cars actually looked like the ones you could buy. Win on Sunday sell on Monday.
Also just letting you know, that whine you hear is from the supercharger in the engine shoving air in the engine.
This lap was even quicker than Scotty McLaughlin's this is a fantastic lap. But my favourite is still Greg Murphy's lap of the gods then Scotty McLaughlin's and you could put this right at the top too.
The lap of the gods is the best single lap at Bathurst.
ABSOLUTELY AGREE - Murph may be a Kiwi, but he’s one of us 🇦🇺(as all Kiwis are - They’re like our little brothers/sisters).
🤘🏁🤘
@@Dylang01 how can it be a good lap when he stuffed gear changes.
Over hyped by miles
@@Dylang01 Except it no longer is the single best V8 lap around Bathurst.
It's disappointing that Murphy's lap gets some sort of legendary status but those who have bettered it don't.
@@dnag247 that's beautiful.
I've always said Oz is like our big brother.
You're kind of better than us at everything, but we got rugby. It the one thing we do well consistently.
And, the occasional time we beat you in cricket, is awesome, but, I, we, love the rivalry.
don't forget to look up the chaz mostert jamie whincup 2014 bathurst finish.
Mate, if you want to check out a gnarly Australian track, have a look at
Symmons Plains Raceway - Madness.
in 2019 scott mclaughlin went faster then cam, it was the fastest lap ever being a 2:03.3sec, but deleted to some kind of problem which supercars stripped him of, def worth a watch
Lets just say that things appear so much steeper when you're driving from the top of the mountain down to the top of Conrod Straight - I did it 35 years ago in a road car at low speed, and I was still crapping myself!
One of the best laps I think I vote for caz m driving a BMW In the 12 hour shouldn't haven't been in the top ten and put on pole against top sport cars
Lap of the gods driven buy Greg Murphy will forever be the best lap in my eyes due to the fact it was a car you had to drive ie Manuel h pattern gear box less computer controls lest computer tech all together
Have a look at Chaz Mostert's Bathurst 2015 crash.Amazingly scary. Watch the track marshall on the right escape death
You should react to a video about the biggest bathurst crash from every single bathurst 500/1000
Ian have you sorted a way to watch bathurst live this year? If you get stuck i will hook you up with a zoom call lol
Thanks I’ll keep ya in mind of shit hits the fan haha
@@IWrocker you can sign up for Superview on the Supercars TH-cam channel. I’m pretty sure it costs money but I think that’s the best way to watch it live
Watch the onboard of this lap
How sexy does the monster falcon and mustang look seriously 2 of the most sexy supercars
To me I don't think it looks as fast as Scotty McLaughlin's or Greg Murphy's the camera shots are a little different and Scotty's Car sounded so much better.
The whine sound that you commented on is both gear box and the dif it's a transaxle the engine is in the front and they run a transaxle in the rear.
Man that was smooooth!
Yager performance XY GT Ho no music,
Watch that.
I believe Scotty's lap from last year is the actual fastest lap, but it got stripped from him due to a problem found with engine. Which they believed gave him an advantage, but was proven by multiple mechanics and engineers that it would gave him a disadvantage, but yeah
How was it proven a disadvantage djr penske admitted it gave higher power and faster throttle response
Fun for the spectators? 2020 that didn't have many if any
Christopher Mies holds the official lap record in an Audi R8 Ultra GT3 with a time of 1:59.2910
Jensen Button holds the unofficial lap record in a Maclaren-Mercedes MP4-23 with a time of 1:48.8
True but what about the F-18A Hornet R.A.A.F. :D
McLaughlin still technically has the 2019 pole. Though most people will say they cheated with the engine, but it was found that it had no overall advantage. 2019 lap time was a 2:03.37. And that’s still technically the fastest lap in a Supercar.
he was disqualified. The time doesn't stand.
@@nickycrea6075 the disqualification was pretty much bullshit… a few millimetres of valve lift proven to have no advantage shouldn’t merit a DQ. Just the way I see it. And the fact that there was no gain with the engine shows that the lap Scotty did was just perfect. Although that lap may never be counted in the record books, to me and to many people that lap is the fastest in a Supercar.
@@ZachRattray the way you see it and the supercars engineer see it is completely different. I'll take the word of someone who is qualified and works with these engines daily over a whinging fan
@@nickycrea6075 I understand what you’re saying. And get that you think I’m whinging, but I’m not. All I’ve heard is that there was no gain or advantage from that engine. And the dyno the Supercars did proved the engine did not breach the permitted horsepower
I still remember the old days when there was no Chase, Conrod Straight went all the way to Murrays Corner.
Man, how old are we!
Before the Chase, how many cars ended up in the sand or had to use the run off road at the end of Conrod ("nah yeah nah - not going to make the turn")
@@jason19700 yeah the good old days. Still The Chase has a few cars not make it as well and it is safer (well somewhat safer)
Even thou Greg Murphy’s lap was such a great lap no one comes close to Alan Moffat’s 1971 qualifying lap who lowered the lap record by from 2min 48.9.to 2min 38.9 and was 3 seconds quicker than the next car
Too many variables in the 70s times.
The cars, even within teams, were often a fair amount different.
It was an awesome lap time for sure, but even right through to the early 90s guys are now open to admitting how they cheated.
A few years ago at the Bathurst 12hr, back when it was a production and invitational race, there were some Fiat 500 Abarths that were lapping Bathurst quicker than Moffatt’s Falcon.
@@pokinacha your point being...? Cars have progressed, duh...
@@ThoBar130 thought it was interesting is all. Little 1.4 hatch quicker than the might XY Falcon.
@@pokinacha Yes - amazing how tire, brake and suspension technology has progressed since Alan Moffat's days. But comparing 'apples to oranges' between the modern technology Arbarths and Alan Moffat's somewhat of a 'dinosaur' race vehicle can only ever be for a 'look how far things have progressed' type scenario.
Hi Ian still waiting for Larry Perkins last to first at the mountain.
The top drivers have always said, its near impossible to drive the perfect lap around Bathurst.
Wish Neil crompton would shut up and let us hear the car,
Love your channel. For relatively few subscribers (no disrespect) you connect so well with your viewers because you are humble!.... I know your channel is gonna be huge soon :) PS hello from a Kiwi stranded in Oz right now!
I also BET that if you had a in Prime Peter Borck Champion in a Modern V8 youd have the Fastest Lap of All time Garuanteed! These young Drivers have it too easy in with Modern Equipment. If you Starpt one of these Drivers in a 20yr old Car theres No Way theyd even come close to the Legends of the Past. That And 2 door Coupes shouldnt be allowed as All Other V8 Supercars were all 4 doors Sedans
Having been in several 1000+HP street cars and a couple of V8 supercars over the years, I found the most impressive part is the braking and turn in. Its ridiculous how hard they pull up and the steering angle into tight corners is unbelievable. Had a few laps around Winton and it was great fun
I fully agree with you but what is really amazing they do it for 1000kms and usually with only one change of brakes.
Love hearing your perspective on the circuit and cars.
Ian - tell Dani we are all waiting for the cook and share the 'Meat Pies' episode - else - even better making your own homemade meat pies from short pastry bottoms with chunky beef and mince gravy filling with flaky puff pastry lids. there heaps of how to's on YT Dani could start here th-cam.com/video/CmrN5XWt-Uo/w-d-xo.html. It may help to research how to eat a meat pie before you burn yourselves and the kids.
We filmed that and it’s going up today in a hour haha I laughed when I read this! Great timing
The perfect lap doesn’t exist
You need to visit Bathurst to truly see how steep the climb is up the mountain, the speed across the top, the twisty run down the other side.
Even if you are not a racing fan it's a spectacular experience.
Any Car can go Fast on this Track, But the Ford Mustang isnt the Fastest Australian Car on Burthurst Lap. Aka There are alot of Cars that can go faster than this but ist not a True Aussie V8 Supercar.
how good is the commentary!!
Camping at the top of the mountain is a must do :) So much fun and games, everyone has a great time.
Ya havent been aloud to for the last two years
@@barra190kw6 Sucks hey :(
The toilets though can yall not aim?
Also I wouldnt Rate a Shootout Lap as FST Lap. Real Race Lap is Mostly the Best. As Full Race Lap is a Real as it gets
i know you like the older style cars check out the king of the mountain Peter Brocks win in his XU1 Torana , carbies not injection
I love carbies 😆👍
@@IWrocker or check out George fury smash Brock in his little bluebird.
Straight cut gear whine
Love watching your videos mate!
The cars are setup differently for the shoot-out compared to the actual race. Basically to go faster in the shoot-out. I've had a drive on the track (as it's a public road) even at 60k's it is an incredibly tight track with a tonne of blind corners. It's a real credit to the blokes on the field 💪
Best weekend you could ever have, if you love the V8"s, a very sad ford fan, now it's the American James Hardi 1000. don't watch or support the sport anymore.
you should check out the 1985 Australian touring car championship, show some love for the Volvo 240 in the 80's, showed the v8's of the day, what was up.
volvo also have a funny thing with the rules and homogenization cars to compete, and a very strange workaround.(dont know if that rule was for oz, elsewhere, or global)
old aussie racing is cool in general, some of the old, old bathurst videos are mental(the black and white vids)
I feel so lucky because I've been around this track under normal road conditions...
Not as good as the old days when cars resembled what you could buy from a dealer - standard blocks, gearbox, diff and brakes. Yes, blue printed and upgrade clutch and brake pads but the essence of the car was available to the general public.
Seeing Brick, Moffat, Bond, Grice and Johnson punt them around Bathurst was far better. I believe at the end of Group C they were doing 2:12. So, in 49 years we’ve cut 9 seconds off using cars with race based motors, race brakes, big wings, special suspension, sequential gearboxes and special bodies.
There is no such thing as a perfect lap. There's always more in it somewhere.
Watching this live with no idea of the outcome was pure magic, I don't really watch the Supercars series anymore but I always make sure to watch Bathurst
I loved this lap last year and love the Monster Energy Mustang .
Be interesting to see VW's hyper electric all-wheel drive car do the course.
Smashed the record at Pines Peak.... why not Bathurst.
Are you referring to the famous PIKES Peak?
V8 Supercars going to 'Gen 3' next year.
Ford Mustang Vs Chevy Camero, lots of excitement about this!!! See overview video here: th-cam.com/video/5kwuGBPYr8U/w-d-xo.html
They have a unique gear sound due to the “transaxle” they run.
The gearbox is basically part of the diff instead of being on the engine
Just like corvettes
@@blaynearmstrong8772 where do you think GM got the tech from mate 😂 they sure as shit didn’t invent it
Beat me to it haha I was gonna say just like the corvette setup then
They have straight cut gears, that’s where the whine comes from, same as when they ran the gearbox at the front, I think it was a Holinger 6 speed back then.
Yeah, in fact not a diff. But as micnstacetube points out, its the straight cut gears that make most of the noise, which is why you don't get them in your road car, even though they're better.
Fastest V8 SUPERCAR lap.
The Bathurst web site and some other sources list the ACTUAL lap records. The unofficial record also gets a mention.
The sound of an Albins sequential transmission is what you can hear mate.
As I recall they have straight cut gears that transmit more power than the quieter angle cut gears.
Hay Ian when you get out here, I think Chanel 7 should have you on doing comment's on Bathurst ( big race) 👍🇦🇺👨🦼👩🦼🧑🦼👨🦽👩🦽🧑🦽🏁🏁🏁
Should watch the cam waters vs Chaz Mostert 2024 Townsville battle
1 thumb down from a Holden supporter!
The overcast conditions would help the drivers. A cool and rubber rich track = speed.
From 2011 (th-cam.com/video/C86s4LH1gU4/w-d-xo.html) he spun out at Skyline, recovered and didn't hit anything!
1:31 Funny seeing the splash for the Panther/ Rabbitohs match considering that the Panthers beat my South Sydney in the Grand Final!
Well done Cam. Congradulations Mate.
Dont forget to check out Scott McLaughlin in America, IndyCar. Alongside Scott Dickson, and Will Power. They're 3 more races to go , to end the season. ( iz 3 or 2 ? )
Hi there from a Fellow Iain ( not sure if your spelt Ian or Iain ) from Brisbane Australia look up a video on youtube under Jordon Cox Bathurst and it will blow your mind.
Australian Supercars is the best Motorsports in the WORLD -
Far more exciting than F1.
As a race team owner with a husband who races at Bathurst I can tell you that, no matter how many times he goes to Bathurst, the aura and gravity of this super circuit always overwhelms him.
Rock on Australian Supercars and Australian Motorsports 🏁🤘💀🤘🏁
like a snipper shooting dead centre at 1+ mile.
I dare say, when your trying to shave time off to that degree the air temperature, windspeed and direction, humidity, barometric pressure, track temprature, tyre temperature...
1971 Hardie fedora 500 Bathurst , brought to you by Sydney wins , will give you a idea of what the Bathurst 1000 was like in early days , was called production car racing ( which is racing cars how you could buy them from the dealers )
Hey dude, cool vid - just stumbled across it. Someone may have already mentioned, but you have to see Waltrip’s ride-along lap in 2011 - bloody hilarious!
th-cam.com/video/kLkLtBkUVuo/w-d-xo.html
Mate you can’t compare Greg Murphy to the “modern day” Greg Murphy done it with H pattern manual not sequential. And a completely different setup car wise! That’s why Murphy is the lap of the gods!
Ford power.
Bathurst trivia:
A Nissan Bluebird with a Z18et, 1.8 litre turbo driven by George Fury held the lap record from 1984 to 1990.
16yrs between this and Gregs lap of the gods - the car should be 3sec faster. Imagine if Greg Murphy was driving it......
I still remember Waters first Bathurst when he did a full 360 coming over Skyline & continued on his merry way.
Marcus Ambrose NASCAR wins , check out an Aussie teaching left turn wombats HOW TO DRIVE .
everybody always states how die Gruene Hoelle is the coolest/baddest track on the planet. I think Mt. Panorama's track is better. I mean, there's a car named after a section of it, and that car's nick-name is due to its dominance there. Then again, it may be cuz I've done the Ring, but have yet to try Oz.
I'm sure someone has already told you in the comments section. That whine you hear are the 'straight cuts gears' of the gearbox. Most road cars have 'helical cut gears' which makes them quieter, but no where near as strong as straight cut gears. The SC gears lose full contact when you back the throttle off.
Hi.if you listen to the commentator he says he was traveling at 300 kmph which is 186.411 mph.that is pretty quick.😁
King Edward Park Hill Climb...Bill's Build and Race...Newcastle Australia
If u can check out Craig Lownsde 10 best moments at Bathurst , Craig Lowndse is Peter Brocks Prodigy , if Peter Brock is the king of the moutain Craig Lowndes is the Prince of the mountain ,
A Seppo making a Channel about himself commenting on Aussie legends.
Dude,kick the empty cans of Bud out of the way and step out into the
fresh air and get a job.
Watch Jenson Button in an F1 car go around Bathurst.
Craig Lowndes also drove it.
Must watch.........
Its the fastest V8SC lap, not the fastest overall. SVG was quicker in the Bathurst 12 hour in the Mclaren GT3 but the V8SC has to work harder to be as quick as the GT3 cars. Always wanted to see a V8SC engine in a LMP car. That would be pretty nice to see.
Man I live not far from this track / public road and I have driven around it. "Forest Elbow" at 60KMH / 37MPH is bat shit crazy in a standard road car. You need to get your backside trackside to appreciate just how fast them cars are going. TV replays do not give this track / public road justice. Oh the views are cool too.
Found a 20 minute video on TH-cam w/V8 Utes at Bathurst in 2016 - Race 1. Thought you might want to check it out.
This is a thing right. People rave on about Scotty Mac's fastest lap, which was fantastic - however 12 months later Cam beats it and it almost goes under the radar.
murphy did it in a dirty rotten raw VT commodore! no where near the same car as a 2020 mustang! murph was an insane driver! cam waters would not go close to murphs lap in the same exact VT!
get over it, dude. he was also 6 or 8 seconds lower.
That’d have to be the biggest amount of bullshit ive ever read here 😂 dont look up the comparison videos or else your idea of reality will be in tatters
your right but murphy did it in a VY... well the chassis was originally a VT but it was dressed as a VY.
@@jeepnutscotty stick to ya shit box jeeps bud!
Actual fastest lap was an Audi R8 LMS which did a sub 2 minute lap. Makes the "supercars" look pale in comparison
Transmission, sequential transmission rear differential gearbox, not the tranditional sequential or gearbox that located at the mid piont of the car. Nascar is using the same transmission setup for 2022 for the new nascar as v8 supercars.
You seem to like waters. So maybe you should look up chaz and cam crashes from Bathurst to the bend, those 2 just couldn't help it even after chaz moved teams they still kept getting into each other it's like the car had magnets on them.