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- Thought I'd throw together this edit of the 60th Anniversary. I absolutely loved watching the toymaker remind The Doctor of all he's lost and showing Donna what happens when you travel with The Doctor for too long.. It was also a brilliant scene to recap the past for people who are new to the show.
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“But then, Rory was killed!”
“He died every week.”
“Well that’s alright then.”
🤣
Truer words have never been commented
The Kenny of Doctor Who
@@PepsiChips87unlike Kenny Rory wins.
"And zen Rory was erased from existence!"
"He got better!"
"Well that's alright then!"
Hearing Tennant mention companions like Amy, even in the slightest fashion, is surreal.
Well that alright then
This.
It’s interesting seeing David’s Doctor with the memories of 11, 12 and 13.
I know a lot of people (me included) see the different incarnations as different people or at least different stages of the doctors life with whole experiences and people that is limited to that incarnation
Especially when you consider that, when they shifted from the Davies era to the Moffat era, they tied a bow on every companion 9/10 had (except Moffat creations like River Song), and not only wrote them out of the show going forward, but barely mentioned them at all in the following seasons.
The Toymaker being genuinely disgusted at every defense of the Doctor's negligence is so interesting
It is interesting, and slightly puzzling, I'm not sure where this puppet show fits with the Toymakers MO
@veggiet2009 He's messing with the Doctor's head.
Negligence? Why do you think that?
@@22especi dont think we as fans see it like that but the Toymaker does 💯
@@sungpark3684 he's definitely accusing the doctor, perhaps it's just playing with the Doctor or Donna's head, or maybe he's trying to make the point that the doctor plays with people like they're toys and therefore is more like him
I love the detail of the Toymaker losing his German accent completely as he gets more and more upset with 14
He doesn't have a german accent. He uses a german accent when he wants to. He changes characters all the time because he treats it like a game
@@LoganDark4357I remember someone pointing out that the reason the Toymaker constantly changes his voice is to prevent the doctor from mimicking it, like the First Doctor did in their original confrontation. That attention to detail is something I really like, as it shows that the Toymaker is aware of what caused him to lose and is preventing that from ever happening again.
@@shivill2236 I think it's similar to how he constantly changes outfit and position as well, if you watched the BTS for The Giggle then they point it out there as well
I don't think he's upset with the Doctor. He doesn't care. His aim is to make the Doctor upset with himself. And it works
@@ugolomb Yes and no. It's been established that he has some twisted form of respect for humankind.
Neil’s face when he says “by a bird” is hilarious
I noticed that too! It’s like he’s saying “What the fu-even I think that’s weird!”
I think he was more trying to make fun of the doctor and how fragile humans are. I really loved that part!
when he does that face it reminds me of count Olaf in ASOUE
The Toymaker has to know the full circumstances of Clara’s death. But it is pretty funny to explain it without context
NPH is like... wait? what!?
I love how hes preying on the Doctors guilt over the death of his companions. Whether hes guilty of letting them down or not, the Doctor likely blames himself for it. And the brutual 'well thats alright then' line makes all his defensives sound so very hollow. This guy knows how to mess with someones head.
this exactly. the toymaker doesnt care if the doctor is in the wrong or not, in reality he's threatening him and donna, and preying on their fears. he wants to make the doctor to fear having companions again
That's kinda like the way they regenerated him into Ncuti. Ncuti was split off frol Tennant, almost like a child being born asexually, like a jellyfish. So Ncuti's Doctor seems to be free from the same guilt and qualms as his "dad"
@@bessieburnet9816 I think there was a throwaway line explaining that the 14th doctor would live on and settle down as a form of therapy, and when he eventually regenerates he will become 15 on the UNIT tower. This would certainly explain why Ncuti's doctor acts a bit wiser and healed.
Yeah. 15 called it "rehab in reverse". We don't fully know how it works, but 14 taking time to recover allowed 15 to start fresh. It was the only way to get back to having a fun Doctor without all the trauma the previous writers caused. And of all the Doctors that need to learn how to forgive himself, Tennant's is number 1 on the list.
@@WiGgYof094 and 5 actually did something similar. We don't quite know why or how, but in the episode 4 died, 5's... ghost? Spectre? Was already walking around and stalking the Doctor. And when 4 died from falling off a tower, 5 merged into him. "The moment has been prepared for."
Also 10 has cheated using regeneration energy before, with the Metacrisis Doctor Hand. Which is also what gave Donna's family Time Lord traits.
I know it’s dark but I just find it hilarious when he responds with “WELL THATS ALRIGHT THEN”
In a full American accent too
You guys said it perfectly! 😂
I was wondering about that. I'm from the American Midwest, and it sounds odd to me. I can't quite place it.
@@davidbethke5463 he's exaggerating the pronunciations, like a non-native speaker might do, like he does with all his other accents; playing into their lore that all his accents and trappings are just stolen from earth cultures all willy-nilly, just a celestial creature playing at being human
Makes me think of Jim Carrey to be honest
I find it interesting how disgusted the Toymaker looks at the Doctor when he tried to defend their death
I'm guessing he sees the Doctor protecting their companion(s) as a game, and since so many of them had died in circumstances where the doctor "lost"; when the doctor made excuses for why they lost or how they're not "really" dead, well the Toymaker hated that, like trying to cheat the rules
Honestly likes he's mocking the Doctor, who's trying to justify their deaths and say they're okay, rather than accepting the loss of his past companions
@@basedbattledroid3507 I didn't catch on to this. This makes a lot of sense.
This along with the fact that the Doctor even tried to justify the last two are really interesting to me tbh
Like with Clara, it was directly stated that since her death was a fixed point…she’s gotta go back *eventually* despite being able to go on a few adventures with Me beforehand
And with Bill, he basically said “well she’s in heaven now”
It’s almost like the Doctor is making excuses as a means to motivate himself and feel less guilty about bringing Donna into this situation….a sort of “even if something bad happens, I can fix things based on technicality, I’ve done it before, why wouldn’t I be able to now”
@Kurotama11 exactly this! This was a fantastic episode, highlighting the doctor's faults
Neil Patrick Harris absolutely nails this scene so much.
❤ Once again, they cast the perfect person for the part!
I had a few issues with the episode, (the doctors “prizes” being chief) but there is nothing wrong with this scene, this part is perfect.
I absolutely hope that RTD sat Neil down and showed him exactly what this video shows us, to help him nail the scenes...
Out of all the deaths, Amy's was the least awful. She actually got to live a full life after her "death".
Agreed. The tragedy of Amy and Rory was centered around the Doctor losing his friends, not their deaths. They had a happy life together in a quaint countryside village. If anything they won, considering all the infinitely horrifying ways to die in the Whoniverse.
WELL THAT’S ALRIGHT THEN
I mean Clara is now immortal so she also got a win
@@iphone777 WELL THATS ALRIGHT THEN!
She lost the ability to have children. Rivers birth screwed up her body so she could never have children
Bill's "promise you won't get me killed" still hurts
For real, Bill had it worse than any of the others in nuwho. And the fact the doctor says "I can't promise you that, you humans are so fragile" before it cuts to her with a hole in her chest...
I waited for you 💔
Which makes the new trailer all the more scary... "Promise you'll keep her safe?" "I promise"
I dread to think what could happen to Ruby.
@@Domihork If my theory about Ruby being a timelord is correct, I think she will end up dying and regenerating.
Is it wrong I want the Toymaker to do recaps for every episode?
I wonder if us fans can hire a nph impersonator/srs
Like Augustus Hill in "Oz"?
How I met your doctor
Well yes but actually no
Toymaker: Graham though you're such a trustworthy person and opened his heart to tell you that he is scared that his cancer might come back, but you didn't even try to confort or encourage him.
The Doctor: I told him I was still quite social akward.
- Well that's all right then.
I would love to see Toymaker calling out all Doctors mistakes he did with his companions. :D
“She was left . . . in ABERDEEN!”
“I mean, she was alive, and fine, she was just in Aberdee-“
“WELL THAT’S ALRIGHT THEN!!!”
(no shade to Aberdeen)
I mean, they only had an hour long show
I saw it as a plus that none of 13's companions died or suffered some weird fate where they basically died but not really(Like Clara)
The Doctor, especially since the reboot, tends to go Scorched Earth on certain villians. Particularly the ones who try to call him out on his stuff. As he himself has said, Good men don't need rules, today is not the day to find out why I have so many
I’m still waiting for someone to call him out for kidnapping Ian and Barbara, almost bashing a caveman’s head, sabotaging his tardis to explore the daleks city and then not giving a fuck about the thals but manipulating them to die for him and threatening to throw Ian and Barbara out of a moving tardis.
Toy maker: “And ze Donna Noble had her memory wiped to prevent her head exploding”
Donna: “I’m sitting right here, you Mellon!”
Toy maker: “WELL THAT’S ALRIGHT THEN!”
Literally had their voices reciting this in my head.
"And Herr Kaptain Jack Harkness..." The Toymaker paused. As much as he had tried, no matter how hard he looked, across every wandering thread of time that comprised the history of the Time Lord sat below him, the Captain was there. Gunned down by Daleks, he was still there, sucked into The Time Vortex, he was still there, electrocuted, evaporated, eviscerated by rotating metal balls, every single time he saw the captain again. The toymaker quickly scowled, before dropping the doll over the small stage.
"And ze Kaptain who so much vanted to die... You couldn't even give him vot he really vanted..."
He cut the head from the doll, and it rolled onto the floor, and out of sight.
"Jack learnt to live with his immortality. He has family, friends..." came The Doctor's reply, defensive, but defiant. But the Toymaker knew exactly what the Doctor was thinking, as it loomed deep in his subconscious. The curse, not a blessing, of immortality, as curse not dissimilar from The Doctor's very own. He theatrically threw on his mockingly unconvincing facial expression, and shouted.
"Well, that's alright then!"
"Iz zat vat he told you, Herr Doktor?" The Toymaker tilted his head with a mocking grin. "Or did you zimply assume as much, because it scares you, to zink of what happens, in the moments you're not there to play ze hero, and zomebody else has to pay ze price." He wonders which doll he ought to use for that example. The two scientists, who he could not save? The lover, who died in his arms? The dear, innocent grandson, sacrificed for the greater good, and the daughter, who will never forgive him for pushing the button? It almost disgusted him how little the Doctor knew of the lives of the companions, who left his side alive. So much suffering, and that simply what lay in the Captain's immediate past. If the Doctor truly knew what the people, who loved him, kept from him to spare his feelings, both of his hearts might just break.
Donna noble when was this?
I had a moment where I felt like I was reading a Target novelisation and there's a scene that doesn't take place in the broadcast episode, but it works so well it's instantly canon. You know, like with Warrior's Gate or Ghost Light. Thank you for that. Uncle Terrence would be proud.
And then the Harkness doll’s head mysteriously reappears back on its body, which continues to repair itself again & again to the Toymaker’s annoyance until suddenly it slides off its little puppet trousers and just gets cast away in disgust.
The worst part is... he _had_ them. But The Doctor refused to help when he created the problem in the first place, and destroyed it all. Children of Earth? That's Ten's fault. Ten _specifically_ and no other Doctor. Because of overthrowing Harriet and saving Caecilius. Caecilius's final descendant was Frobisher. Remember how things went with the Time Lord Victorious? That was the same thing going on with Frobisher. If The Doctor hadn't overthrown Harriet Jones and hadn't saved Caecilius, Ianto would be alive. No "golden age" would have considered giving into the 456, especially not Harriet. And Frobisher was the Torchwood govt liaison. If Ten hadn't done those things, Torchwood wouldn't have been betrayed, they'd have taken point with full backing, and things would have gone so much differently.
I adore this scene. Everyone defaults to "they didnt really die" when talking about these three, as if to make it ok. It doesn't change the fact that the Doctor had consecutive companions die on their adventures. No matter how the Doctor tries to justify or fix it, their time with the Doctor led them to their deaths.
Not even that, but their lives,if you can call them that, we're irrevocably changed in dramatic ways BECAUSE of the doctor. If he had never met them, some of them may have lived long, normal lives in safety.
You still cannot really count Amy and Rory. At the end of the day, it sucks what happened to them, but they basically still got their happily ever after. Bill an Clara was Moffett wanting to have his cake and eat it to regarding companions.
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And only a few companions earlier was Rose ending up trapped in another universe, away from her friends and family. Jack killed bya Dalek and forced to be immortal (something the Doctor knows first hand sucks). Even Donna lost a year of her life.
and that all of them are fates far worse than death
This scene, I'm telling you, was so well performed. The mood was uncomfortable, the reality was heavy, Genuinely I wasn't sure sometimes if it was a laughing moment or a sorrow moment. So good, NPH sold this.
Agreed. I really hope NPH can come back at some point. I absolutely loved his performance.
Honestly, I'd kill to see a super-extended cut of this covering *all* of the Doctor's companions, even the ridiculous obscure ones.
"And vvat about John and Gillian's, ze Doctor's other grandchildren?"
"Well, they were actually sentient mathematical constructs created by the TARDIS to help me deal with the loneliness-"
"WELL THAT'S ALRIGHT THEN!"
how about him taking away Jack's teleport and indirectly getting most of Torchwood killed
Don’t forget about Compassion!
@@jddi1527 What the fuck can you even say, about Compassion?
The War on Heaven was something *else*, man.
Katarina deserves special mention
@@SamuelBlack84 "Katarina suffocated in space"
"She sacrificed herself"
"WELL THAT'S ALRIGHT THEN"
"He also had Rose. She was trapped in another dimension. Forever."
"She lives happily ever after with a human clone of me."
"Well that's alright then."
The fact that Bill's consciousness survives and that Clara gets to live almost forever in her last second of life and at least Amy got to die of old age it's all fine as reasons to at least be okay with what happened for the doctor or a way to fix his mistake once it's happened but it never condones what happened, and the doctor should learn to realise that
but everyone does die at some point. and it's okay to accept that. I think the doctor has learned to not hold himself fully accountable for never letting anyone die, but he also still feels guilty about the HOW which is what the toymaker is pushing.
@@pinkbunnypeepsyall8251 And the Doctor was only very indirectly responsible for any of those deaths; I can imagine him being held liable in a wrongful-death suit, maybe, but even a negligent homicide or manslaughter charge would never stick. Clara, in particular, was more directly responsible for her own death, which came about because she tried to game a situation the way she saw the Doctor do without asking whether she knew enough about the situation to game it.
@@mr.flibble3190 Well thats all right then!
@@mr.flibble3190 without the doctor these people would have lived long and happy lives. The Doctor makes mistakes we all do, but his have consequences that can't be fixed even if they did die of old age or live forever in 1 second. It's the Doctor's fault and he needs to accept that, just because he made the death less worse doesn't mean he shouldn't feel bad
@@Deltabolsterand how do you know they’d have lived long happy lives? Life and death can happen at any moment. And now they also are living long happy lives, just different ones. And in turn they got to see the universe in new and incredible ways.
The fact the toymaker doesn't mention yaz shows he's trying to create the most untrustworthy portrait of the doctor in donnas mind.
I think its more these 3 companions all died.
@@VadersFist95exactly, he doesn’t want to mention that Yaz was safe. But he could have mentioned Graham’s wife.
Literally nothing interesting happened to her, she was one of the most boring and undeveloped characters ever
most people that returned to doctor who reconize these companions. Not Yaz.
@@VadersFist95 And by only mentioning dead companions, it paints the Doctor in the worst possible light. He jumped directly from Bill’s death to the flux, basically boiling down everything thing post Donna to “the Doctor tried to replace you, but all his companions died and he failed the save the universe.”
I really wish there was a half hour of these for every single companion to meet a bad end.
“Well first there was Susan, you itty bitty granddaughter. She wanted to keep going on adventures, but you said no. And left her in a apocalypse with her boyfriend. Never to return”
“She needed to live her own life”
WELL THATS ALRIGHT THEN
10 hours later
“Then there was Adric, that one was actually alright”
@oneplushydude can we have all of them please?
yea i would pay to see all of the doctor's companions to meet a bad end
and like some time in the 4th or 5th doctor donna asks on how many companions he had and the doctor says that their not even half way through yet
You can kinda see the toymaker's manipulative streak in this, because instead of talking about the companions after those 3, he goes straight to the flux, because all the companions after them have survived and gone home in the end, so he omitted them to almost make it feel like it's one screw up after another with the doctor
He also doesn't mention Martha, who bailed out of the TARDIS before suffering a similar fate (although, her life was a wreck too)
@@bdletoast09 you're right, but at the same time he was going over what happened after leaving Donna, Martha was before/during Donna's time in the tardis so it does make sense for her to not be included
I still would've liked if he mentioned the fact that the Thirteenth Doctor basically let a woman fell in love with her and then just dropped her back to earth just because. She certainly didn't get Yaz killed, but she striped away her heart.
@@AlexGonzalez-gf4oz It's not really fair to blame Thirteen for that, Yaz felt how she felt and Thirteen couldn't reciprocate, that happens. And having to deal with unrequited love isn't really comparable to getting killed honestly.
@@AlexGonzalez-gf4oz yeah that would've made sense to include, but I guess the focus was more on deaths specifically
I don't know how people feel about these specials, but you cannot deny that Neil's acting was amazing and the best part
Finally some good writing
He was promoted through all the specials, so I wish he was in all the specials.
@@briansilva3344 exactly. I didn’t expect him to be front and center w/ all of them but at least show up
Yeah, I wish the specials were 3 parts of the same story surrounding the toymaker, but I did enjoy what we got! Let's hope Neil comes back as the Toymaker or even someone else at some point!
I thought that it was amazing before. @@uioplkhj
Amy disappears...."UND SHE DIED" that has my rolling every time
mine too! imagine saying achieving a fairytale happy ending and living a long life with a spouse who worships you, happily ever after, is some sort of tragedy
The Toymaker calls out the doctor's double standard. He travels with people because it amuses him to have their company, and gets them killed as part of the game, and has the audacity to throw shade at the Toymaker's games.
Or at least that's how Toymaker sees it.
And how the Doctor tries to make excuses for their demises too. Hence "WELL THAT'S ALRIGHT THEN!"
I would not characterize it that way. It's not like the Doctor gets them killed on purpose. Also their deaths were never part of any game at their expense like it is with the Toymaker. And not all companions die. Some companions died but that is because of the inherent risk of traveling with the Doctor. When you are fighting enemies like the Daleks, Cybermen, weeping Angels etc... there will be huge danger. Lastly, the Toymaker is presenting a very biased and misleading view. Amy Pond chose to be taken by the Weeping Angels because Rory had already been taken and she could not bear to live without him. The Doctor actually begged her not to do it but she did it anyway, and he was heart broken when the Weeping Angel took her. Clara died because of her own hubris. She thought she could "play Doctor" and cheat the system and when faced with the inevitable, she chose to go out and accept her fate. The Doctor hated it but could not stop it. So he did the next best thing to take her out a second before she died and give her a "life" in that last second. Bill died by a Cybermen but it was not the Doctor's fault. He did not know the Cybermen were there and did not know about the time dilation. The Toymaker is conveniently leaving out some details.
@@TheDiplomat27 he willingly brings along companions.. ordinary people. He then puts them in very real danger in almost every episode. He knows how dangerous his adventures are and yet he brings along these people to die. It might not be a game but I imagine it’s like a hog hunting dog. Ya you love them but at the end of the day they are expendable life forms.
@@WilliamTheBot I strongly disagree. The companions come with the Doctor of their own free will. And he does not bring them along to die. He brings them along for companionship because he likes them. They actually become his closest friends in the whole universe. He actually goes out of his way to protect them and keep them safe. It's just sometimes it does not work out because the Doctor is fallible. So no, they are not expendable lifeforms. And there have been times when the Doctor deliberately travelled alone so as not to endanger his companions. But what is the Doctor supposed to do, never make any friends and always travel alone for the rest of eternity? That would not be fair. At the end of the day, companions are also responsible for their actions. Sometimes the companions take risks AGAINST the advice of the Doctor. The Doctor tries to protect them and they disobey. That is on them, not on the Doctor.
People are forgetting that most companions choose to travel with the doctor and tell him they know the risks but want to be heroes. Clara saw the doctors past and knew what was at risk. Her arrogance is what got her in the end. Amy always went back to the doctor even after he left in season 6 to spare her and Rory. Amy made the choice to be touched by the angel to be with Rory. And Bill, she bugged a professor at a school until she discovered the truth and went out of her way not to let her memory be wiped. Sure, she warned him about going on a mission with Missy, but it’s not as if the companions have no agency. The audience ought to know that even if the Toymaker ignores it.
While this is true, it doesn't mean the Doctor is free of blame. He knows what he's doing, taking these regular people across time and space, knowing they'll always want to come along. He shows them the stars, then expects them to go back to their lives on Earth.
At best, it's gross negligence to take untrained, regular people info great danger. At worst, he's actively using them, because the alternative is to develop a conscience of his own.
I guess 13 should just be glad that none of her companions got murdered by aliens, or kidnapped by evil statues. They were the lucky ones.
if a child signs up to go to war is that alright? they might say they understand the risks but do they really? Compared to the Doctor they're all toddlers with no real grasp of the dangers involved with travelling with him.
I agree with Amy and Clara being ‘ it his fault’. But Bill was 100% the doctors fault. She explicitly warned him she thought it was a bad idea to take missy out already, she said quite clearly she was worried for her safety and made the doctor promise to not let missy get her killed. He did. He failed.
Well, that's all right, then!
Like the Doctor said "They'd say it was their choice, but offer a child a suitcase full of sweets and they'll take it. Offer someone all of time and space, and they'll take that too. Which is why you shouldn't."
"Well, that's all right, then!" is my new go to phrase.
Massive Facebook meme right now.
Seen it everywhere, even non Who sites are doing it.
@@Skeloric I noticed that, too. Apparently I'm not the only one in love with that phrasing.
It's always been pretty funny to write off a dumbass justification for something that can't really be justified with an "oh well, that's alright then" I'm glad it's caught on, people just used to look at me weird
Well, that's alright, then!
This is when Dr.Who works. It's not the SFX or sets, it's the brilliant writing
Toymaker: "Und zen ze Doktor met Adric, but Adric vas killed by ze Cybermen!"
Doctor: "Adric was an asshole."
Toymaker: "OH, WELL THAT'S ALRI-- okay, fair point."
This man is an AMZING actor, I’m almost upset he’s the toy maker as I would have LOVED to see him as a doctor
I mean there's a sliver of hope, considering Peter Capaldi got to be the Doctor
Stranger things have happened....
@@CoolieBruv Peter Capaldi's still British. NPH is not; he's American. As such, he'll never be the Doctor.
@@parallax3deven Rosa Parks, one of the most iconic American figures of all time, was played by a British actor in doctor who. So does it really matter?
@@parallax3d That would only be strange if the UK and the US were on equal footing in this context, which they're not. Pop culture internationally is overwhelmingly dominated by America, so it makes sense for people to want to hold on to the few things that are still defiantly non-American.
"There was was a girl named Ursula she was eaten by the Absorbalov und she died"
"I brought her back as a paving slab"
"WELL THAT'S ALRIGHT THEN!"
14: "Hey, I could help but notice that you skipped over s-"
Toymaker: "NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT GRAHAM, YAZ, RYAN AND DAN!!!!!!"
14: "I was gonna bring up Nardole, but hey, they left on good terms too."
Toymaker: You zees! That’s alright then
For what it's worth, they actually address a bigger bit of carnage from the Jodie era (the Flux and half the universe being destroyed). This video just omits that segment.
@@jessebaker2769 That's true. I wanted to focus more on the companions for this one. Maybe the clip could be used in a Flux themed edit.
Nardole was left to face an invasion of Cybermen.
@@potsdam28 And he lived a long life and got hitched too.
Love how you can hear suttle version of all the companions themes when the Toynaker plays with them.
Like you can hear the fairytale chimes from Amys theme.
Or the melody from Claras theme. Awesome detail. Murrey Gold is a king.
Yeah, I think the musical ques in the show are going to be amazing from here on out now that we have Murray Gold back!
I can't find it anymore but I remember seeing this edit that went like
"Und zhen zhere was Harriet Jones! She was shot by a Dalek!"
"She escaped through a trap door in the ground and lived"
"FUCKING WHAT"
Bahaha that sounds amazing. If you find it again please share!
Neil was perfect as the Toymaker. I hope we get to see him again.
I do too. I feel like that role was written just for him. So good!
Agreed! I'm banking on either The Toymaker coming back or Neil being given a different role! He's an all round amazing actor.
14: And what about Rory?
Toymaker: Look, I don't have that many toys...
I feel like it was a hard miss to not mention Rivers Songs death. Cause it happened during a Donna Adventure and fits a theme of the other companions he showcased. And during the time Donna was gone he did have his last date with her as Capaldi.
Consciousness left in a bookshelf
-WELL THATS ALRIGHT THEN
It probably should've been mentioned, but I think the whole point was to mention companions that die AFTER he left Donna to emphasize how much he keeps losing friends again and again.
But the doctor get to spent 24 years with her before she died, so she sort of got the happy ending she deserves before the inevitable
WELL THAT"S ALRIGHT THEN!!!!@@onvasean2485
Since Donna saw River Song's death there was no point in telling her about it.
River's was skipped specifically because she died durring a Donna adventure. The whole point of the scene was to get Donna caught up on what she missed since the last time she saw the Doctor.
It is weird though that there's no mention of Rory's multiple deaths or 13's companions but I assume the fam was skipped because non of them died.
Doctor Who remebering Rory challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
“And then, Doctor, there were your other companions, and people who would have become your companions, but your very presence put them jeopardy.”
“I’ve never forced anyone to travel with me. I always make sure it’s what they want!”
“WELL THAT’S ALRIGHT THEN!”
Ian and Barbara anyone?
"Then he had three friends; Ryan, Graham and Yaz. Nothing bad happened to them as they were essentially just cardboard cut outs"
"I was in a brief romance arc with Yaz"
"WELL THAT'S ALRIGHT THEN!"
Great edit, however I’m glad they didn’t do this in the show. I can’t stand a clip show episode
Fair enough, Flashbacks can get old.
Toymaker: "Then they said the Doctor was killed over and over as a child by the Time Lords"
Disney & BBC: "It's okay, we brought back Russel & David"
Toymaker: "Oh Well That's Alright Then!"
Honestly, The Toymaker dragging the Doctor out is great.
"What about Rory?"
"Vhat?"
I call this the “Moffat Variety Hour”
Toymaker: And then there was the story of the Timeless Child.
Doctor: Okay, I don’t have much of a defense because I’m still trying to wrap my head around that one.
Toymaker: Well, that’s all right then!
Given The Toymaker being an oddly fair narcissist, he probably would have said "well that's actually fair enough then!"
We all are. 🙄
"Then Graham said he had cancer."
"I told him that I am socially awkward."
"Well that's alright then."
This just made me like the Toymaker even more, knew what buttons to press to anger the doctor like Davros or the master
You could give me 100 years and I don’t think I could come up with a better way to show how companions died to another companion and make the doctors seem cold towards them
Good edit, like the actual flash backs.
Thanks, glad you liked it!
This authentically bothered me about the Moffat era. He wrote six companions, killed 5 of them (counting the library episode he wrote where River dies) but always gave a cop-out where they don't *actually* die so they don't have to dwell on it. I respected the classic show for letting Sara Kingdom and Adric's deaths stick. This reeked of wanting to have cake and eat cake, maximum drama with none of the consequences
I feel that. I wish atleast 1 character didn't have some fairytale twist in their ending. - RTD usually let supporting characters die (e.g Waters of Mars) whereas true companions would have a tragic ending that didn't involve death. I think this was a better way to go.
Personally I think Bill should have just died. The living oil twist was really unnecessary, and it reduces the emotional impact of her conversion to a cyberman. Also, unlike for Clara, the Doctor probably wouldn't go to extreme lengths to save Bill.
I actually cried when Adric died.
Except Nardall. He just straight up died
@@PianoHypnoshroom Agreed. It felt like Bill was originally planned to die but maybe the BBC stepped in? I'm not sure but it certainly didn't feel planned. Moffat also would've gotten rid of a lot of the criticism by having Bill turned into a cyberman and then straight up killed.
I love how the Toymaker says “Aaa-mee PONT” every time.
13: "How about we go over how all MY companions survived?"
Toymaker: "Nah, that's all right, then."
Except Grace…
Toymaker: Yes, survived. Survived the dangers YOU and your games put them in. Unlike you, I don't pretend to guarantee safety.
@@EmptyMan000 Doctor: I don’t play games. I’m trying to keep the universe together and people like you make that harder!
WELL THAT'S ALRIGHT THEN!
I know people are seeing the more serious aspects of the scene, but what I mainly see is a funny ass jab at Moffat’s repetitive dead/alive companion trope
This just reminds me that all of the Moffat era companions died while with the Doctor
Except Nardole…
Adric died with the 5th Doctor
Was Tennant part of the Moffat era? That includes even River if it does.
@@Mojo1356 No Tennant is RTD era. Although River was created by Moffat and those 2 episodes that introduced her were written by him. So technically she falls that
@@Mojo1356 he appeared in Day of the Doctor.
The look on fourteens face when the Toymaker mentions bill... It's understandable as Bill was the most recent companion that died.
Yeah. Not to mention how brutal her ending was. I think being converted is so much worse than death could ever be.
I find it so funny that the doctor in his fifth regeneration swore to himself that he’d never let a companion die again after Adric like uhhhhh
That's the thing about promises like that, they end up so hard to keep. And how many innocent people would suffer if the Doctor prioritized his companions above all else? Live is about making hard choices, especially when one is cast in the role of a hero.
Or do borrow a line from a Terry Pratchett book about opera:
"Those that MAKE the happy endings seldom get happy endings themselves."
And then that depression of the broken promise for then he isolated himself in the Victorian era.
Oh, well THAT’S ALRIGHT THEN!
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It's always interesting to me to see doctors remember companions from their previous faces.
It links them together and reminds you they're all the same person.
Yeah, It's nice to see different incarnations react to being reminded of their previous companions
IKR. Their faces might be different along with some different quirks but they’re all the same person who remembers their previous companions, adventures and enemies. I like when they acknowledge or remember them like 4th think Sarah was Victoria in pyramids from Mars, 12th thinking of Amy and Rory or here
You can see the sadness on his face at 1:30 when he mentions bill.. 😢
Worse death to a companion in New Who ever. Bill did not deserve what happened to her.
Also, Clara the Dalek... Bill the Cyberman... what's the next companion gonna become? Sontaran? Weeping Angel? Maybe Ood? (Did the Doctor ever get around to figuring out how their society grew so quickly? Might be the lead up, I think?)
@@vedwalker3974 Didn't _the Doctor_ become a Weeping Angel that one time? Although apparently we can chalk that one up to "the Toymaker fucking with the Doctor's timeline" so it's as dubiously-canon as the Timeless Child fiasco (thank fuck we have an in-universe justification to ignore that now). Also that one guy became an Ood, and another guy was turned into a Zygon, but we've never seen anyone turned Sontaran, I don't think...
Bill went through Hell. She had a hole blown through her gut, then revived but basically becoming a prisoner in a medical complex waiting a decade for the Doctor to come and save her only to be transformed into a Cyberman moments before the Doctor got to her. Her only friend during this 10 year period turned out to be working against her to as well to get to the Doctor. As far as the Doctor knows, Bill is dead at this point and it's all his fault as he didn't believe the glass robot's story that she left with Heather. I would love to see her back for 1 episode at least.
Becoming a Cyberman would be one of my worst nightmares. And she retained her emotions and knowledge of what happened to her. I wonder if that was because she was a Mondasian cyber man. If only that dude hadn’t been so triggered happy. 😢
His American accent with “Well that’s alright then” is hilarious
justice for handles
"and zen zer was handles" 🤣
I love seeing Neil Patrick Harris in this show. He fits right in and absolutely nails the role
he Neils it
That is something that needs discussing: the Doctor is an terribly lonely person who takes companions in just to feel less lonely, and when they die, he makes up excuses to deal with his own guilt.
As he said: "Vell, zat's alright, zen!!"
Notice that the Toymaker doesn't mention the 3 companions after that - Ryan, Graham and Yaz because they are all still living
I'm easily moved. Seeing David Tennant's face get sad about Clara just broke my heart
I love seeing incarnations react to previous companions.
But how could the Doctor remember Clara ?
@@ivanyermolovich3155he got his memory back as 12 right before regeneration in Once Upon a Time
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The Doctor: "To be fair, they left out all the jokes!"
Fans: you missed out Rory
Toymaker: eh, he died every other week...
Fans: well that's alright then!
Also, technically it wasnt the Cybernen that killed Bill, the blue dude shot a hole right through her body, the cybernen actually kept her alive by converting her. Still a terrible fate though.
She was ultimately killed in the process of the full cyberconversion
That's true, I think I might make a separate edit for Bill due to her distinctly tragic ending.
I love when he says AAaammmmyy pondt
This somehow became my favorite Doctor Who moment and I now have to stop myself from saying well that's that's alright then. Is this happening to you also?
Indeed it is!
(Spoiler) Its interesting because either of the doctors could have chosen as their "Prize" for winning their game against the toymaker, that all companions who were left with fatal or horrible fates could be safely rescued and allowed to live their lives uninterrupted. With The Toymakers Reality warping he could have done that for even the classic who companions. But i guess an extra Tardis is great too to keep the 14th doc about. 😄 bring on the 65th and 70th anniversaries!
The Doctor would then realize he could change so much more, becoming just like the things he opposed. The Time Lord Victorious. Oh wait...
Killed by the Cybermen is kinda downplaying the level of fucked up that happened to Bill, really, considering everything else that she went through - like seriously, it was like the writers were like "Hey, how can we traumatize the audience today then?"
The way Bill was actually killed by the Blue Guy , the turned into a cybermen, the killed by the Doctor who exploded the ship level
Yeah, I didn't want to include all of the scenes here but you're right. I think bill deserves her own edit for the tragedy she went through.
Best part of the whole special. It was great.
And then there's Rory, who apparently wasn't important enough to be mentioned here.
I feel like the doctor's rebuttal to that would be "But Rory died every other week!"
@@StagTwo well, that's all right then!
The Toymaker: “And zen zere vas Rory!”
Fourteenth Doctor: “Who?”
The look on Neil Patrick Harris' face when he said "she was killed.... BY A BIRD!"
I've made a gif of "Well, that's alright then!" for use as a reply on social media.
"I'm not racist, some of my best friends are black!"
"WELL, THAT'S ALRIGHT THEN!"
"Yes, [political party currently in power] are bad, but it would be worse if [opposition party] got in"
"WELL, THAT'S ALRIGHT THEN!"
Is it wrong that I kind of wanted a calliope/carnival-ized version of the show's theme to be the intro to The Toymaker's puppet show? The music playing during the show was fine and fit with the themes at play; but it just feels like the kind of thing The Toymaker would do to get both the Doctor, and the audience's attention. For the Doctor, he could hear the "drumbeat of 4" reminding him of The Master, while the audience hears the theme song for the actual TV show itself.
Cool idea!
i cant stop giggling on how he says amy pond i had to watch that part over and over again
I was looking if someone mentioned that I love how he says that
the puppets are wearing the clothes they died in.
THE PUPPETS ARE WEARING THE CLOTHES THEY DIED IN.
Amy had one of the best deaths. And the angel was nice enough to send her to Rory.
But why not just move out of New York to hitch ride back their own time? This whole 'by observing the gravestones it becomes fixed' thinking is kind of lazy, we need that Timelord Victorious attitude back.
@@larsg.2492 Yeah, they should've had a better reason behind the fact that the doctor can't just go and get them - and even though he viewed the gravestone, surely that shouldn't stop him from visiting.. Strange plothole.
@@ashcorrell5504 Fair enough, however The Doctor was touched by them in "Blink", along with Martha. - That's why they were stuck back in time.
0:56 Peak German campness.
In my opinion this is THE most important scene in new who. It PERFECTLY summed up the concept that when tragedy strikes or when someone dies, the doctor never stops, never looks back, never mourns. He just moves on. And in a weird kind of twist, the toymaker was like the parent scolding their child because what they did was bad, with this the toymaker is scolding the doctor for simply giving up on all of them or failing to protect them or constantly putting them in harms way. That was the whole point of this 3 parter, to show the doctor that he NEEDS to stop, stop and enjoy life slow. Look back on life while remembering the good bits only. And finally getting the chance to mourn all of his losses
I completely agree. I hope we see Ncuti's doctor take a different approach to interacting with and saying goodbye to companions in the next series.
@@StagTwo I already love ncuti's doctor even though we only saw him for that short moment. Im VERY excited to see where they take his character. My only gripe on his era is how they designed his sonic screwdriver, or rather his sonic remote. I just don't get why they can't keep the same design they had legit JUST made, it was such a beautiful design.
@@Menagerie_OS I think they just made 14 a new sonic for merchandising reason unfortunately.. Also I'm not a fan of the new sonic not even resembling the shape of a screwdriver.. Hopefully we can get a nice design next time!
Well that's alright then........ gonna say that everytime the wife says take out the garbage.
"Well that's all right then!" This is a golden opportunity for Doctor Who's greatest meme template.
Looking at this, you realize Steven Moffat was so mean to the doctor's compagnons 😅
moffat speciality - companions death and then sugarcoated it with a hollow "happy" ending. Rory , River Song and danny pink can be added to the casualty list with the same disdain 'Well, That's Alright Then !" remark.
“Then, Nardole died with his hairless head”
“He had INVISIBLE HAIR!”
“Well… Don’t Think so!”
I'm only now realising the puppets are match the companion's outfits at the point of death (though the colour of Amy's coat is a little bit off).
WELL THAT'S ALL RIGHT THEN!!!1!!1
WELL THAT’S ALRIGHT THEN! ‼️‼️🗣️
Something about seeing Tennant's face sad about Bill really hits me more than the others. I guess it's because Ten met Clara in the 50th so I associate them and Amy as part of the same era in a way whereas Bill was a pure twelfth doctor companion.
Edit: also i love twelve and Bill and I wish they could have had more time in their respective roles ❤
Neil Patrick Harris should get an Emmy or BAFTA award for that performance. I could watch the puppet scene and the Spice Girls scene over and over again.
He really was great. I love all the silly accents he mimics throughout the episode.
@StagTwo the best part is that the silly accents make sense when you remember how the Celestial Toymaker lost the first time they encountered the Doctor.
not to be nitpicky but the toymaker didnt cut all of Claras strings. does that mean something or not?
Fans: YOU KILLED OUR BELOVED COMPANIONS!!
Moffat: no I didn’t I just had them exit dramatically.
Fans: WELL THATS ALRIGHT THEN!!! 😤
One thing I love about this is that the puppets are wearing the exact same clothes the companions died in.
'You left Dan homeles and unemployed after using him to stop an alien invasion'
'Who the fuck is Dan'
'Well he didnt fumble dee, so ig thats alright then'