Dang that siege tank fight the decision on who has to walk to who made all the difference. Having to close that distance with the tanks in siege gave them all the advantage in the world.
@@davidelfving5138 Well yes but if the tanks had to unsiege move forward then resiege, thats a TON of time lost on attack for the vanguard to close the gap as we saw at the start of the fight. They managed to get into range for their own attacks by the time the tanks got to fire a single round. By being able to start firing at the max range of the siege tanks they got an easy couple rounds off before they could even try to shoot back which crippled the vanguard. Had they STARTED siege mode and stayed that way it would have been a total massacre.
@@chrishubbard64 nah, if only one siege tank unsieged and moved forward the vanguards would either have to keep retreating or they'd have to attack into the tanks.
@@davidelfving5138 If we're letting them be that tactical, the Vanguards could counter by having individual Vanguards move forward to kill the single unsieged tanks in order to split the fire from the sieged ones and reduce splash damage, constantly rotating which ones attack to maximize shield regen. A single Vanguard volley will kill a tank while it takes multiple tank shots to break through their shields, so they would win the battle of attrition.
Primal igniters suck lol, just an overpriced hellbat with armored tag. Maybe 5 hellbats don't win this fight but same mineral value of swann hellbats, 9 I think, crushes those lings
And reavers are twice as op in SC2, they move way faster, have twice the hp and auto build ammo for free. Basically no ground unit counters them effectively.
that is because they were 100% positional. Had the angles been slightly different, the results could have gone completely differently. Same with the zergling vs. incinerator, RNG was a huge factor in many of these matchups.
A lot of it just comes down to siege tanks in siege mode before the vanguards ever reach them. Position would be correct, but it's always an instance that favors the siege tank as long as they're set up before the fight even happens. Ghosts vs mothership, the result was expected, given the EMP grenades. They're spread out enough too that the mothership can't lance more than 1-2 per attack.
@@Medinaxz What? The vanguards even attacked first because the siege tanks were slow with entereing siege mode. It wouldn't be even close with how hard the siege tanks should win this otherwise.
Alright, at this point i think, that the time has come... We demand Dehaka vs Apocalisk :D 4/5 by the way. Always bet on taldarim motherships, but this time... Nah) Also zerglings vs igniters was waaaaay too closer, than I was expecting, including the fact that i known nothing about those igniters :D at least until now)
What fight? Reavers win 100% of the time. They kill the disruptors in 2 shots before they detonate and don't have a 21 seconds cooldown. Also disruptors do friendly fire which hurts them a lot.
Here's an idea: Terran army with 1 Ghost that calls down a nuke. The battle is both a race to see if the Ghost gets killed or the nuke comes down, plus a fight between the survivors (if any) afterwards.
@@StarfoxHUN that mod is way too microintensive to be fun lmao, having to burrow and unburrow very specific groups of units in order to survive with your tiny force just to kill 1 16k health void ray out of three, no ty
@@heyitsmushu7393 Umm you aware that the OG post asked about a way to see 'lore accurate' battles, right? For that, real scale mod videos is the best way to go, even if you liked to play it or not.
Hey, can u make who winner between Centurion (narazim) vs zealot spear (aiur) Centurion (narazim) vs sentinel (purifier) Zealot spear (aiur) vs sentinel (purifier)
1:52 - Do the Primal Igniters really have this second armor upgrade? The third icon from the left? This upgrade icon looks more like Abathur's coop upgrade for Roaches, not Dehaka's coop upgrade for Primal Igniters.
In fairness, Siege Tanks are usually at a massive disadvantage in these fights because they don't enter siege mode till they come to within normal firing range of the enemy. That's a HUGE handicap because as this match vs the Vanguards showed, if the Siege Tanks start off in siege mode they can pummel the incoming enemy before most of them can even get close enough to fire off a shot.
This just proves how powerful the primal Zerg is, dehaka hasn’t lost once and 4 igniters managed to kill 12500 minerals worth of zerglings with only 750 mineral and 250 gas payment
those fights were actually closer than I thought but Reavers and siege Tanks yes were routing for them and was so scared but yes ❣️❣️❣️. Also not sure what the conversation would sound like but they're fights 😆😅😆🤣🤣😆😁 are spitting matches in my opinion 😅😅😆😁
4/5 I don't know if anybody was actually expecting the zerglings to pull through as they've kind of gone with a never bet for zerglings... But for once we were wrong lads
I'd like to once again suggest protoss campaign units vs zerg campaign units. for example raptor and swarm zerglings vs whirlwind zealots, centurions, and sentinels
1. Fenix is no slouch in 1v1, but I don't think he has the raw punch to take on the Apocalisk. Result: That thing is a world-beater for sure. 2. Reavers. Colossi don't have enough single-target damage. Result: Popped, 2:1 3. Unstoppable force versus immovable object. My terran heart says tanks. Result: I thought I was totally wrong when they started just rolling right through the tank line. Lucky for me they split. 4. ... I don't know what these guys do. Uhhh lings for the win? Result: So *that's* what those guys do! I think I got lucky... 5. Mothership about to make roast ghost for dinner Result: For some reason I thought the AOE would be sideways like colossi. EMPs were brutal. 4/5, a B's good enough for me!
Collis aren't even meant for mechanical units and yet scarabs barely beat them. I always though scarabs were just too slow. If you put scarabs against anything else I'm certain they will lose. Their DPS is really disappointing. But when you get the artanis mastery where they can shoot super fast that's when all is well in the world.
Primal Igniters are one of Dehaka's army units in co-op. In co-op, all of Dehaka's basic army units have an "archon form" where you merge two identical basic units to form an advanced unit. Primal Zerglings have the Ravasaur as its archon form, Primal Roaches have two archon forms (Primal Igniters and Primal Guardians), Primal Hydralisks have two archon forms (Primal Impalers and Primal Mutalisks), Primal Hosts have the Creeper Host as its archon form, and Primal Ultralisks have the Tyrannozor as its archon form. Primal Igniters are one of the least used units in Dehaka's arsenal overall, since utility against large numbers of small units isn't that important overall.
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That down to the wire fight with the Zergling being the victor was great!
It's a trap! There's two of them!
@@rohdri this is getting out of hand
The definition of "we've won but at what cost".
wrr
Ever wondered what a conversation sounds like between reavers and colossi?
Far and away🙃.
BEEP, BOOP, MAGGOT
Reaver: - u r gae
Collosus: - who ses am gae
@Mr. Hole
Colossus: Ha ha, you can't climb the terrain.
Reaver: Maybe I can't, but he can. *scarabs flying up*
Beep boop boom
Dang that siege tank fight the decision on who has to walk to who made all the difference. Having to close that distance with the tanks in siege gave them all the advantage in the world.
Yeah, but they’d have to do that regardless since the tanks have longer range.
@@davidelfving5138 Well yes but if the tanks had to unsiege move forward then resiege, thats a TON of time lost on attack for the vanguard to close the gap as we saw at the start of the fight. They managed to get into range for their own attacks by the time the tanks got to fire a single round. By being able to start firing at the max range of the siege tanks they got an easy couple rounds off before they could even try to shoot back which crippled the vanguard. Had they STARTED siege mode and stayed that way it would have been a total massacre.
@@chrishubbard64 nah, if only one siege tank unsieged and moved forward the vanguards would either have to keep retreating or they'd have to attack into the tanks.
wrrr
@@davidelfving5138 If we're letting them be that tactical, the Vanguards could counter by having individual Vanguards move forward to kill the single unsieged tanks in order to split the fire from the sieged ones and reduce splash damage, constantly rotating which ones attack to maximize shield regen. A single Vanguard volley will kill a tank while it takes multiple tank shots to break through their shields, so they would win the battle of attrition.
Primal Igniter - what a Hellbat wishes they could be.
But 5 hellbats win that fight, I think.
@@BaufenBeast th-cam.com/video/nG7uNO-H1zw/w-d-xo.html 1000 lings (no upgrades) won15 hellbats (full upgrades)
@@BaufenBeast Against 500 zerglings? No way, not unless they're in a choke.
wrrrrrr
Primal igniters suck lol, just an overpriced hellbat with armored tag. Maybe 5 hellbats don't win this fight but same mineral value of swann hellbats, 9 I think, crushes those lings
*Didn’t know Colossi could fly*
they have learned it from scarabs :d
@@adfghsfol :D
Ground units can't fly only as long as they aren't facing reavers.
I have to say, I always love seeing the zerg specialty units. Reavers are also the most amazing unit! never bet against them
I still remember my first encounter with Reavers in SC1. I had a nice army going, "Oh what's that big catterpillar?" aaaaaaand my army was gone.
@@Skylair95 I loved using reavers in SC1.
Still can't believe the colossi lost that with _twice_ the numbers.
And reavers are twice as op in SC2, they move way faster, have twice the hp and auto build ammo for free. Basically no ground unit counters them effectively.
@@Leonhart_93 Also, scarabs don't bob back and forth behind buildings four times before going around.
Dude the chadest of em all, that zergling with 2 kills and living with his buddy
i love how the apocalisk took 3 tries before pushing fenix he wasnt expecting him to be that heavy
Result for Vanguard vs Siege Tank and Tal'darim mothership vs Ghosts are quite unexpected!
that is because they were 100% positional. Had the angles been slightly different, the results could have gone completely differently. Same with the zergling vs. incinerator, RNG was a huge factor in many of these matchups.
A lot of it just comes down to siege tanks in siege mode before the vanguards ever reach them. Position would be correct, but it's always an instance that favors the siege tank as long as they're set up before the fight even happens.
Ghosts vs mothership, the result was expected, given the EMP grenades. They're spread out enough too that the mothership can't lance more than 1-2 per attack.
really ? I always bet on siege tanks and the tal darim mothership was going to loose all of its splash given that the ghosts spread out
@@Medinaxz What? The vanguards even attacked first because the siege tanks were slow with entereing siege mode. It wouldn't be even close with how hard the siege tanks should win this otherwise.
this is definitely one of my favorite uploads you've done.
That was exciting! That vanguard siege tank combo coulda gone either way with different pathing. And always loving the Reavers 😊
Alright, at this point i think, that the time has come...
We demand Dehaka vs Apocalisk :D
4/5 by the way. Always bet on taldarim motherships, but this time... Nah)
Also zerglings vs igniters was waaaaay too closer, than I was expecting, including the fact that i known nothing about those igniters :D at least until now)
Apocalisks*
Watch any 1vsDehaka match and you will realize how this match will play out
@@JustAnOrdinaryDemon 100 dehaka vs 200apokalisks
@@Макс-мааакс that'd be sooooo extra LMAO
@@JH-bb8in 10 Derek vs 9999apokaliskd
I like these types of videos when Tya uses Co-op or Campaign units ❤
THAT ZERGLING WITH 2 KILLS
0:30 "Fenix, nooo!" -J. Raynor.
Imagine being a commander of the dominion before they've seen the readers, and then telling mengsk that you got killed by scarabs.
"It was like a slug... but it was shooting bettles... I don't know sir, it just kicked our ass"
Well tbf reavers was already in Brood War when Mengsk was teaming up with Protoss and Zerg to fight the UED. So Mengsk knew exactly what reavers were
Apocalisk Vs Dakrun (Primal Leader) 😃
it would be nice to see a battle between disruptors vs reavers
Banking on reavers
What fight? Reavers win 100% of the time. They kill the disruptors in 2 shots before they detonate and don't have a 21 seconds cooldown. Also disruptors do friendly fire which hurts them a lot.
40 "light, stealth assassin units" shot down two city sized hyper advanced alien Motherships. Ghosts seriously need nerfs 😆
No it's a numbers game
Hydralisks would've done the same thing if they didn't have shields possibly even if they did
Tal'darim Motherships: "My will is iron"
Ghosts: "And your Shields are 0"
-2000/-2000💀💀
The ghost losses were like - 5000/-5000 though.
Didn't expect the Vanguards and Primal Igniters to loose
IS there already a match between an apocalisk and dehaka? dehaka seems totally op so far
I think you would need to two Apocalisk since Dehaka could yoshi one of them.
@@theshlauf Technically, Dehaka could yoshi again after CD is off.
Dehaka's mlem ability outclasses every single unit in the game. It's too broken.
"mlem ability"
"he could Yoshi one"
Guys 😂😂😂
@@Cyberium CD will be long after yeeting a unit with that much hp
I never thought that I would enjoy waching laser-giraphes fly by roleypoleys like marines would do, yett here I am.
That 1 zergling who killed 50% of the enemy force must be that hero zergling from the Kerrigan cinematics.
Or that 1 HP Zergling from Diamond League Disasters (Bronze League Heroes)
That primal igniter zergling fight was crazy. So was the vangaurd vs siege tank
Also the Apocolisk really is OP af.
I could see that zergling doing tea bag so happy, whole raid party got wipe out and yet he manage to take down two primals!
4/5, two zerglings away from a perfect score🤣
That one Chad zergling who killed two primal igniters.
Here's an idea:
Terran army with 1 Ghost that calls down a nuke. The battle is both a race to see if the Ghost gets killed or the nuke comes down, plus a fight between the survivors (if any) afterwards.
I would love to see a video where the units are lore-accurate.
I.e. a single gigantic leviathan against a fleet of massive battlecruisers.
Search 'Starcraft II real scale mod'
@@StarfoxHUN that mod is way too microintensive to be fun lmao, having to burrow and unburrow very specific groups of units in order to survive with your tiny force just to kill 1 16k health void ray out of three, no ty
@@heyitsmushu7393 Umm you aware that the OG post asked about a way to see 'lore accurate' battles, right? For that, real scale mod videos is the best way to go, even if you liked to play it or not.
Now is the time for DEHAKA vs APOCALISK
dat zergling though
Hey, can u make who winner between
Centurion (narazim) vs zealot spear (aiur)
Centurion (narazim) vs sentinel (purifier)
Zealot spear (aiur) vs sentinel (purifier)
1:52 - Do the Primal Igniters really have this second armor upgrade? The third icon from the left? This upgrade icon looks more like Abathur's coop upgrade for Roaches, not Dehaka's coop upgrade for Primal Igniters.
It's a gene mutation, the +50% life one. Honestly not sure how to handle gene mutations in these vids, so I just gave them all the same one.
@@Tya. oh, I see.
Except for the first and the last battle, the others genuinely surprised me lol
Fenix is the bite victim of 1987 confirmed
Vanguards got robbed by that awful split.
Nicest surprise Igot today, the moment I opened youtube.
Also vanguards had super bad luck today😆.
In fairness, Siege Tanks are usually at a massive disadvantage in these fights because they don't enter siege mode till they come to within normal firing range of the enemy. That's a HUGE handicap because as this match vs the Vanguards showed, if the Siege Tanks start off in siege mode they can pummel the incoming enemy before most of them can even get close enough to fire off a shot.
solid picks, my favorite was the vanguard losing to siege tanks because of the range
collossi: Zerg's natural enemy
Reavers: worm siege tanks but they also need a lot of zaelots & phoebes at the front and dragoons at the rear
Vanguard lost from shitty deployment
If It was from two sides it would be an easy fight
4/5 ... Thank you zergling for makeing me humble XD
Can anyone explain why in Tya's brawls taldarim motherships shot 1.5 lances per second but only 1 per 5 seconds in actual game?
This just proves how powerful the primal Zerg is, dehaka hasn’t lost once and 4 igniters managed to kill 12500 minerals worth of zerglings with only 750 mineral and 250 gas payment
would love to see these battles with seige tanks pre-seiged!
those fights were actually closer than I thought but Reavers and siege Tanks yes were routing for them and was so scared but yes ❣️❣️❣️.
Also not sure what the conversation would sound like but they're fights 😆😅😆🤣🤣😆😁 are spitting matches in my opinion 😅😅😆😁
I think those tanks would’ve stomped those Annihilator more if they sieged earlier
2/2/1
Those zerglings suprised me, as did the siege tanks, but I know better than to bet against colossus OR reavers
Apocalisk: *exists*
Dehaka: Finally, a worthy opponent! Our battle shall be legendary!!
I hope they didn't fight yet, lol :Da
What do the numbers at the bottom below Fenix' and the apocalisk's portraits mean?
Gotta admit halfway through I thought the siege tanks were gonna lose, god damn I did not see the lings winning that
Those two surviving zerglings xD
an exhilirating half a minute of two units auto attacking each other
OMG that MVP Zergling kill 2 Primal Igniter!
4/5 I thought Fenix can win also DAT HEROIC Zerglin take down 2 Primal Igniter is amazing
4/5 I don't know if anybody was actually expecting the zerglings to pull through as they've kind of gone with a never bet for zerglings... But for once we were wrong lads
I'd like to once again suggest protoss campaign units vs zerg campaign units. for example raptor and swarm zerglings vs whirlwind zealots, centurions, and sentinels
Now I want to play the campaign
Fenix need his Arbiter Armor and cloak ability.
That zergling fight made me want BBQ
What does the number next to the red/blue icon below the unit cost mean?
Construction time probably?
Direct Strike rating, this is a custom map.
That chad zergling who has 2 kills is my hero
Now I have to look up what an Igniter is 😂
love Zergling fight!
4/5. Zerglings vs Igniters was a close fight. Siege tanks once again proved their dominance in StarCraft
1:37 - I notice the tanks didn’t unsiege.
barbecued zergling in the morning
LITERALLY thought Zling would get obilterated.....
Are there some fights with nukes?
Anyone notice 14 of the tanks disappear somehow?
Collossus: we are the best on splash dmg
Reavers: b**tch please! Really?
How do I keep managing to underestimate ghosts *every single time*
Another day, another total defeat for Protoss
5/5 baby! compensates for my previous 0/5.
Honestly reavers and siege tanks surprised me.
1. Fenix is no slouch in 1v1, but I don't think he has the raw punch to take on the Apocalisk.
Result: That thing is a world-beater for sure.
2. Reavers. Colossi don't have enough single-target damage.
Result: Popped, 2:1
3. Unstoppable force versus immovable object. My terran heart says tanks.
Result: I thought I was totally wrong when they started just rolling right through the tank line. Lucky for me they split.
4. ... I don't know what these guys do. Uhhh lings for the win?
Result: So *that's* what those guys do! I think I got lucky...
5. Mothership about to make roast ghost for dinner
Result: For some reason I thought the AOE would be sideways like colossi. EMPs were brutal.
4/5, a B's good enough for me!
Dang Reavers win way more than they should.
Can two Apocalisks defeat a Dehaka?
Wow, how bad are the colossi...oO
is this mod public in arcade or somewhere else someone pls tell me i wanna try it if it is
Fenix wins
Reavers wins
Vanguards wins
Igniters wins
Motherships wins
Nice
@@lecake9217 thats what i thought too except first one
1/5
Shoutouts to Colossus ragdolls
Ok. I think Fenix and Apoco was an obvious win for Apoco.
I wish the siege tanks wouldnt always siege im pretty sure they do better single target damage unsieged
4/5. Better than usual for me.
Siege tanks really get rekt if they don't get to fire first.
Reapers are so broken since SC1 I’m sure they would even win vs BCs 😁
Poor boy Fenix
0:39 colssi space program
Collis aren't even meant for mechanical units and yet scarabs barely beat them. I always though scarabs were just too slow. If you put scarabs against anything else I'm certain they will lose. Their DPS is really disappointing. But when you get the artanis mastery where they can shoot super fast that's when all is well in the world.
Nooo! Everyone knows that Fenix can throw down with the best of them
Wtf is a primal igniter and where do I get some?!
Primal Igniters are one of Dehaka's army units in co-op. In co-op, all of Dehaka's basic army units have an "archon form" where you merge two identical basic units to form an advanced unit. Primal Zerglings have the Ravasaur as its archon form, Primal Roaches have two archon forms (Primal Igniters and Primal Guardians), Primal Hydralisks have two archon forms (Primal Impalers and Primal Mutalisks), Primal Hosts have the Creeper Host as its archon form, and Primal Ultralisks have the Tyrannozor as its archon form.
Primal Igniters are one of the least used units in Dehaka's arsenal overall, since utility against large numbers of small units isn't that important overall.
Reaver are the coolest units for siege
Quick awnser: no
Long awnser: no fenix cant take on an apokalisk
He is not Fenix, he is Talendar
The thumbnail jojo meme
tbh, SC1 Ghosts would have it way easier against those motherships lol
why dont the ghosts just snipe the pilot of the mothership?
Yeah, snipe the whole crew through 10m of solid ship plating...
Dehaka vs apocalisk
Ghosts not using abilities as usual