I loved you’re Qutoe “The war on drugs and terror didn’t work the war on Guns won’t work Too” not to mention Prohibition was a war on Alcohol and boom the Italian Mafia was selling it illegally
Yea so did my high school … in the 1950s … we don’t live in that world anymore. We don’t even live in the world of 20 years ago. We live here now and what used to work no longer works. You don’t go out and buy a new computer and install windows 95 on it do you ? The world is not the same place get a grip
HowItUsedToBe you are correct. The world is not the same anymore. In facts it's much much more dangerous and it has never been more important to carry a weapon than now.
For anybody who is curious, whenever you see a video of someone being tazed and they have no reaction to it, it's not because they "just ate it", it's because both of the prongs did not hit the target. Tazers require both of the prongs that are fired to hit the target for the tazer to actually take effect. It is actually quite common that both prongs don't connect on the first shot because of clothing on the target and other factors, so tazers are generally armed with two rounds because of this.
I was gonna say, from my limited experience with electronics as a mechanic, one of the only reasons a circuit would be finicky like that is a loose connection to the main source. So if the prongs don't punch correctly, it won't be as effective.
Its also why, in the event there is only one police officer on scene, a taser isn’t used. You should have lethal cover when using non lethals (simply because lethal has a better chance of keeping the officer’s safe).
Nah. He’s pro gun. NRA member. Just perpetuate the gun violence in our country and the mental patients that are able to easily access assault rifles to commit mass murders.
@@tonytrident8874 he did? Honestly I don’t really feel like watching all this business again, if anyone can elaborate and go into detail, I’d probably be willing to read.
@@tonytrident8874 Not to be a prick, but Colion is one of the most knowledgeable lawyers and 2A advocates on constitutional gun rights that uses his huge platform to spread awareness, education and facts. Just because he says he doesn't have DATA to back this up (poverty and gun violence) doesn't mean he's "making it up". He's merely pointing out that gun violence in the inner city ensures that local LA politicians and directors may need the problem to persist in order to justify their $260,000 salaries. It more than likely means that the data needs to be collated from an authoritative source like the FBI, ATF, CDC, etc. Which will never happen because there is a one party majority. It's like, why would you investigate the root cause if it meant fixing it was your a$$ and livelihood. Make sense?
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anyone who believes in what your logic is they're thinking for themselves and are hero's anyone else..... obviously they're not thinking for themselves and are wrong. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡.
when you go buy a product from the store you look for that one doctor's recommendation who wasn't the 9 out of 10 doctor's that didn't recommend... "'bEcAUsE hEe ThIKns fOR hIMmSeLf " lmao
*In terms of gun related suicides....* As a Marine buddy of my told me, "If you're ever thinking about eating a Round, eat a mushroom instead; it's a heck of a lot healthier for the brain and the head." Shrooms legit save lives after the military.
We need young knowledgeable people who actually know their stuff running this country. Not old farts from a like a century ago who are so out of touch with everyday people. This guy is awesome
*Some* old farts. Most who I know are treasure troves of common sense, wisdom and knowledge and would be perfect for this country. We just happen to be currently stuck with a senile puppet.
One good thing about old people though, is that they've seen it all experienced it all. So they have an intuition if something is a waste of time or could work. Loads of wisdom. But that being said a bit younger I believe is helpful. like 40's & 50's
@@fleatactical7390 Unfortunately every older person I know are weird, their bodies are falling apart, and they are just really weird man. Even the ones I respect I can’t stand to be around for to long because of how odd they act.
Yet we elected a president who referred to black children as cockroaches and used the term Negro to describe black people. Look it up on here if you don't believe me.
@@CoolSmoovie if you didn’t know, as humans age their bodies breakdown from the wear and tear of life. Good healthy bodies don’t last a lifetime. It’s not the elderly who are weird and odd. It’s you. I’m sure you have beliefs that are completely unjustified and poorly thought out and do things without good reason or understanding. You are weird and odd because of them and people who believe and act with well reasoned perspectives seem weird and odd to you.
As an electrician I can attest, getting hit by 277V is like someone hitting you with a baseball bat. It's much more dangerous than a taser. It will either knock you on your ass, or wake you up better than any coffee or energy drink ever will
@@Biggiiful always shut off the breaker to whatever you’re working on. I’m not a certified electrician but I’ve changed attic fans, outlets, light fixtures and I always shut off the breakers when I do anything involving electricity. People who do any electrical work with just turning off a switch are insane lol
@@rippindrummer666 and then check with a multimeter to make sure what you're about to work on is actually off, after you switch the breaker, just to be safe.
@@Biggiiful Shut everything off like rippindrummer said whenever I do electrical work with my pops in our properties we turn the whole house off via the breaker.
@@Biggiiful It's actually not that likely if you're safe and take all the proper safety protocols. I've been an electrician for 15 years now, and I've only been hit once. I was working on landscape lighting @ the Mandalay Bay in Vegas. I went to change out a bulb and got lit up because the fixture wire was exposed on the inside of the housing, and became energized. Went through my hand and grounded me through my knee. Hit me pretty good. It happens so fast you don't even realize what's happening til it's over. Grabs hold of you and contracts your muscles. We follow very strict OSHA safety precautions. We're actually never supposed to work on circuits that are energized, unless it's medical life support systems @ hospitals. And if we do those, we get suited up in arc blast suits. It's a good career man. Definitely don't be scared by electricity, once you learn how it works, you learn to respect it, and not fear it. We make good wages, good health benefits, and I have 2 pension plans through the IBEW Local 357(union).
I don’t know about you but when I got my concealed carry permit I had to go to a shooting range and was tested for shot accuracy I had to take a three hour course of gun safety and basic understanding/ knowledge
I also had a 6 hr course and shooting test but only because I had to to legally ccw in my state. I was apposed to the process but after illegal ccw for 10 years I figured I had to much to loose. Im apposed because as Colin mentioned, its a constitutional right.. The second amendment does say you have the right to bear arms and does not say only if your local jurisdiction thinks you should. The biggest issue with ccw is putting ourselves on a list of people to confiscate firearms from when the ATF keeps redefining laws to include everyone. Registration *will* result in confiscate eventually. If not in my lifetime then my kid's lifetime. With how public schools and the main stream media has been brainwashing the mass population into gun hysteria there will be no 2nd amendment in a few more generations.
In Georgia we have “permitless carry”. It’s a new law but I’m pretty sure it applies to concealed carry. No class, no background check, and no license.
Can you imagine being forced to pass a class in order to speak to the public and you don't having your right to free speech taken from you and being thrown in jail because having a pod cast about guns is considered to dangerous?
@@beausannieoakleyposse7249 can you imagine being forced to take a written and skills based test to drive a car. Pretty soon they’ll take all our cars!
@@mattgrooms1853 you only have to take a written/driving test to drive on government roads. You can own and drive any car on your own property. You also do not have a "right" to a car like you do a firearm.
I remember seeing a map somewhere regarding U.S. gun violence, and it blew my mind that like six urban-suburban counties, and I want to say you could even break it down to cross streets of certain cities to look at shooting numbers, were where most gun homicides occurred. Wild stuff. But Noir is right.....if you're a politician, why do the work and improve your constituents lives when you can politicize and blamethrow? That goes for Dems and GOP on their respective lists of political footballs.
What's even crazier is that they all reside in the areas with the most strict gun control legislation in the country, too. There is a website dedicated to just tracking the gun violence in Chicago.
What specific steps does Noir think politicians should take to improve mental health and wealth inequality? Most of the same people who oppose gun control also oppose government spending on mental health and social services.
@@technewb8241 gun control doesn't work if you don't do it everywhere. It's like trying to pour water out of a boat filled with holes. That's why every country that has gun control does it nationally/federally.
@@BobRoss-wm3lc Yep that is an undeniable truth. Insane that there are so many Americans that ignore this fact. It seems as if they simply have no empathy for others and all that matters is their own enjoyment.
This is just a circle jerk...Two people of the same opinion rehashing why it's a good opinion. This is not the type of conversation about firearms America needs.
Sadly the only conversation we will hear from main stream media "no guns will fix thing" or "more guns will fix things". The fact that these people don't care about suicides proves that Media and Politicians are only interested in personal gain not the betterment of society.
Education on guns seems like such an instrumental thing to do, regardless of where you're at on the matter of having/not having guns. Why is that not the first thing to consider?
Most of the states that even require CCW classes make you take them with awful instructors. Not to say you need to have been shot at, but if your instructor is NRA certified, weighs 340lbs, and has a SERPA holster, you're about to receive some horrible gear/legal/survival advice outside generic rules of gun safety.
@Ok Alright A lot of assumptions and baseless generalizations there. I don't even know what you're trying to say with the blue line/tread on me, 50/50 thing. Seems like your perception of "gun owners" comes entirely from reddit or something. I agree it would be nice if we could all hold hands and talk about this stuff rationally and without emotion clouding our judgement, could stick to just practicality and factual info... but that shit went out the window years ago. Idk what world you're living in to believe millions of people can be rational and respectful of other opinions/situations. The root problem is not guns, the root problem is the fact that our society pumps out people who would sh*ot up an elementary school. No rational, mentally stable, moral person would do that, no matter how many scary guns they own.
1000% agree with Noir on the issue of poverty and mental health. Where I grew up in West Baltimore people who lived in old family houses often passed down from their grandparents were more likely to escape poverty and not be involved in violent crimes. That's not to say most didn't do crime, it was just that it was not necessary for people (myself included) to commit crime since we had access to basic things. However! the people who grew up in rowhomes and apartments were worse off! They were always committing crime and causing problems. Hell, one of my friends before he passed at 17 (SEVENTEEN!!) years old had the nickname "Felony" because the dude committed so many crimes that eventually the courts charged him as an adult. Ironically, he did not die by gang violence, he had MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES and shot himself. So I agree that there are so many problems with poverty and when you have mental health and/or mental illnesses or severe mental illness running in your family on top of that, it makes the situation worse. People in leadership always say "we need to talk about it" but then never take action needed to change these situations.
It doesn't seem fair to raise a child in hell and not expect mental health issues. Like the chicken and the egg, which came first? What causes poverty? The fastest track to the poor house is a single parent house. I suspect if we had healthier whole families, we'd have less poverty and less mental illness. Decades of numbers says that's true.
Yeah these days many kids start to sell drugs because it isn't worth for them to work a normal job since they don't make enough money compared to drug trafficking. It's interesting how instead of figuring ways to try to reduce prices and tax to make it easier for people to live, instead politicians just talk about it, just take more taxes, become rich, and do nothing about it. We don't only have gun crime go up, but every crime go up.
may have some truth but listen that is the new tag line. R's being screaming they coming for your guns boogie man shit my whole life. All while cutting access to basic services. Cutting benefits to Mental Health, medicaid, voting against min wage increases. I like guns own guns. I give 2 shits If I can buy an AR or if my 18 yo can buy one. Who givesa a shit. We all know what we were doing at 18. Hell you cant rent a car unless you 25 handgun 21. So the rest of this shit is all cap.
I think If they started charging drug dealers with the crime that drug dealing allways results in , "Murder" , that it would be a huge deterrent to involving yourself in those activities.
Great conversation ! If only we could get people to open up at least enough and listen to conversations like this. Unfortunately people have been so programmed into tribalistic ideas that they stay willfully ignorant on subjects such as this.
Its an amendment,which obviously been changed from the original draft so it can be changed. Its not normal in the 21st century to keep harping on about a piece of paper written so long ago..No other country on the planet has the violent crime/murder like yours and its high time you grew up and realised it.
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I have always been a gun control advocate. I’m a 71 year old white woman that have never held a gun. But I wanted to understand the other side. Thanks to you and Colton Noir and watching this podcast 2 times, I now understand! Thank you so much! I will never own a gun, and will just have to die if necessary (probably strong Mennonite/pacifist DNA in there) but I understand and truly support the gun advocates!
Thank you for getting out of your political comfort zone just to understand a topic better. We need more people like you in my generation. As a 21 year old I have no idea why people my age are so emotional and don’t think rationally or logically. Thanks Cheri!
The part about the taser brought back a fond memory. I was working at a prison and was learning about the stun gun. The instructor told me to grab his arm. He pressed it against my fore arm. I fought it for about 7 seconds. It felt like my muscles were doing waves. It was painful but I fought it. It sucked hard. The point is: Theres no end all. Drugs can make people super human. Some people can just fight through the pain. Its a false sense of security. Just like carrying a gun. The only sure fire method of ending a confrontation is a rocket launcher. Lol.
I think one of the things missed is the "prolonged exposure to poverty" may actually be the most influential: those in poverty, especially cities (so this can sort of explain why West Virginia isn't as violent), is lead exposure. We know biologically that lead exposure decreases not only IQ, but also decision making skills. Removal of lead from gasoline has been shown to reduce crime ~20 years later everywhere it has happened by a significant amount (this is why crime in the US dropped substantially in the 1990s, for instance). I'm generally anti-government intervention, but if government can actually improve lives somewhere, it would be cleaning up lead in inner cities.
watch a special on leaded gasoline they said the guy who put lead in gasoline killed more people than anyone ever in history stuff was deadly some amazing stats and facts in that show
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Government intervention on stuff that enhances capitalism is never a bad thing. Crime only further suppresses capitalism. This is why regulation that doesnt deal with environmental protection or property rights is wrong.
@@dr._breens_beard so you think that extremely rich corporations buying up a shit ton of houses and then jacking up all the rents is a good thing? That's capitalism as we know it in the USA. I'm not saying it's bad. But let's face facts. At the end of the day corporate Giants have now interest in keeping more and more of their profits rather than sharing it with their employees who work to get them that wealth. Common sense that eventually that's going to cause the economy to become as it is now. And steadily get worse and be as fragile as it is. Things like the recession don't affect the Uber rich, only the poorer, working class. Share the wealth more and you'd see a much much happier society. I promise you that. Ppl are just absolute miserable anymore and it's because most ppl are struggling paycheck to paycheck and assholes just say shit like you should try harder or get a better job. It's not always that simple.
In answer to the taser question, modern tasers work on the theory of Neuromuscular Incapacitation, the greater the spread on the probes, the more muscle mass that's affected. This combined with the pain, is better capable of incapacitating a subject that older generations or stun guns...which merely operate on pain compliance. If a person appears to be unaffected, it's typically because the 2nd probe hasn't made contact, or potentially illicit substances are a factor.
I've always wondered why suicides are listed in the gun stats under gun violence... suicides aren't" violence ". a suicide is, a violent thing, but the definition they are using when collecting gun violence statistics isn't the same definition. to be violent is a description, whereas violence is an action, a verb. I feel like there's no other reason to include suicides with the rest of the data , than just to pump up the numbers on paper. perhaps it affects government funding on some level or something? honestly, just no idea.
@@alexsawicki1721 - Right, exactly. Bladed murders are a nightmare for law enforcement, considering blades don't leave behind residue, or leave bullet casings or impact trajectories, etc. You also can't trace a knife back to it's owner either. It's for no other reason than because politicians simply fear them. The government would be thrilled if guns were taken away, because an unarmed populace is an obedient populace. Just look at how the UK and Australia treat it's citizenry for example. COVID was a godsend in a way, because it provided a relatively harmless virus that ultimately showed the government's true colors. It allowed the Mask to be removed momentarily, and the stark difference between how those other governments handled and treated their populations vs how the US approached theirs, speaks VOLUMES. And the single, solitary difference between these populations comes down to: GUNS. The US population is heavily armed, the others are not. Which is exactly why the US government never really went any further than declaring "guidelines" and "suggestions" and "policies". Those other countries just straight up MANDATED and ORDERED their populations, going so far as to build encampment zones and even jailing certain people. It's spooky how fast the illusion of "democracy" crumbles when the government has no reason to keep up appearances.
@@ReanuKeevesAus Probably a "don't confuse me with facts" anti gun derp who didn't even watch it. He supported everything he said with easy to verify stats.
I've seen the videos Colion is talking about. When he was first asked how many rounds he fired. Colion swore up and down he fired 3, in reality he fired 8. But telling the cop that one little incorrect detail can ruin anything else you say. Always plead the 5th and get a lawyer.
Thats sad. C.N. is an enemy of freedom and the rights of the people. And supoorts the very things that he claims to be against due to his own ignorance. Key indicators is "muh 2nd amendment rights", when the 2nd amendment doesn't grant rights. Its a restriction on government. Our rights are natural. "Law abiding citizen", yea if the founders were law abiding citizens there would be british flags in our front yards right now. C.N. openly supports cops. Cite where exactly in our constitution that "we the people" (which includes me) gave government the authority to police society. You can't because it doesn't exist. It doesn't exist because standing armies are the most dangerous cause to the rights of the people and freedom. Yet c.N. openly supports them. So is it that he knows something and is an enemy. He is ignorant and an enemy. Reguardless he is ignorant making the ignorant even more ignorant. While having them (you) support your own oppression
I've been around guns my whole life did lots of hunting and was on a trap team in highschool the number one rule I was always taught is to NEVER point a gun at something you don't intend to shoot it's common sense honestly lack of gun education is crippling this country I know some families and individuals hate them but we should all learn to operate a firearm safely regardless because they are here and I garuntee no government will EVER take them from American citizens
We need gun safety back in schools like we had up until recently. It could be put into a health class or PE requirement and wouldnt even take that long. I remember having to do track, tennis, flag football, golf, frisbee golf, volley ball, and more, so why not add a gun safety requirement. The extent that I had gun safety in school as a 22 year old was like 10 mins of a DARE program which was when police came in during elementary school to teach about how drugs and alcohol was bad. What they did was just say guns are dangerous dont touch them and get an adult if you see one and tell.
Hell yeah us gun owners need to stop trusting these shit eating republicans too and remember that Reagan passed the most restrictive gun laws of any US president but gun loving conservatives still look up to him! Both sides are the same amount of lies and bullshit.
They are slowly eroding the 2A. Read the dissenting opinions on some of the recent 2A Supreme Court rulings. All they need are the numbers and it’ll be revoked. Never rest on your laurels and think it would never happen.
When it comes to self-perpetuating government, it's not just gun violence - it's the entire Prohibition machine. There are VAST amounts of money flowing to maintain the current status quo in the War on Drugs. There are entire government agencies whose existence depends on the War on Drugs continuing, not to mention all the NGOs and other organizations that depend on Federal anti-drug money.
Truth. Just like rogan bringing up the cottage industry surrounding "fighting homelessness" guarantees homelessness will never be dealt with, because there is too much money to be made pretending to fight it, the "War on drugs" won't ever be won, because there is too much incentive for the gvmt to keep it up. They will loose trillions in their dept budgets if they ever actually stopped drugs from being sold and used in the US. It's kinda funny, that we all know how much money the Columbian and Mexican cartels make selling drugs, something to the tune of 100 billion a year, but that pales in comparison to how much money the FBI and DEA and DHS and state and local gvmts have spent on fighting those drugs. Drug dealers and smugglers and criminal gangs made literal fortunes with drugs, but the US gvmt has taken tens of trillions from taxpayers to pretend they're fighting it. Someone is making money using prohibition as their excuse for sure, but it's not who you'd expect it to be.
The crazy thing about all that is movies are being (and have been) made about how government organizations use drug money to fund their wars. It's common knowledge at this point. Yet these organizations still exist and are allowed to continue doing what they've been doing. Americans don't care enough to do anything about it, or hold our politicians accountable.
Yep…. The cocaine trade over the US-MEX boarder is worth a estimated 60-100 billion a year…. The corruption goes deep… you would be kidding yourself if the so called elite are not involved… all that tax free coin… the richest people in the world control the drug trade.. the cartels are the bogeyman.. bait and switch…
Colion Noir is an amazing 2A advocate. I found him about two years ago and I got my husband to watch him. He's intelligent and is doing great things for gun owners all around the United States.
@@replexity really? what has he done for 2a other than give speeches for money while the common man has to fight thru Hella restrictions for a simple handgun. I'll wait
Everyone in America needs to listen to two idiots? This clown said Canada was "a part of England". Firstly, England isn't a sovereign nation. Its part of the UK and Canada is a separate country to the UK and a sovereign nation. He also claimed the Queen makes all of Canada's policies. Canada has its own parliament, Prime Minister and executive. So, no. No one with an IQ above 60 should listen to these fools.
The taser electrodes need to go in specific spots to incapacitate the person. If youre wearing thick clothes or the electrodes dont make contact in the right place it becomes a pain compliance tool rather than involuntarily incapacitating the person like it does under ideal conditions and elecrode placement. No-one can override a taser under ideal conditions. Its high failure rate is caused by incorrect placement or lack of penetration of the electrodes due to thick clothes.
I remember that guy at the 7 eleven which was shot on film of a guy assaulting him and then going after him more while the guy was on the ground and the prosecuted tried arguing the attacker was retreating. Sometimes you can do everything right and still get charged. Ridiculous.
A woman in Massachusetts was criminally charged and ended up doing time for shooting a burglar. The reason? She could have retreated and escaped through her back door which was locked, dead bolted and braced from the inside. Imagine in a high stress situation how long it would have taken her to dismantle the brace assembly, release the deadbolt, unlock the door and run away. That's how ridiculous laws are in New England in general. In Massachusetts one has to apply for a permit to carry mace which is awarded on a 'may issue' and not a 'shall issue' basis.
He can retreat all he wants but if he is still armed he is an active threat...and let's not forget that he is posessed of free will and could change his mind , turn and come back to continue the job.coming at you or going away, if armed that person represents an active threat and that threat must be neutralized.period.
If this is the incident where the older gentleman had a dispute with a younger guy because he parked in a handicapped spot, the older gentleman was in the wrong. His judgment may have been clouded because he was probably afraid and his adrenaline was high in the moment, but as soon as he pulled his gun out, the guy that was attacking him started walking away... and he shot him anyway. As Colion said in the video, there is a very thin line between justified and unjustified, and looking at the video, it was not a justifiable shooting. Had he still been attacking him when he shot him, it would be a different story, but since the guy started walking away when the gun was pulled out, it's no longer a defensible argument to say he shot him in self-defense, because the attack was over and the offender was retreating. The point in using a gun (whether just brandishing or firing to stop someone) is to end the threat. The threat was over when the guy started walking away; you can't just shoot him because you're upset he attacked you. Like I said, maybe he was caught up in the moment, but in the video, there is a very distinct pause between when he was being attacked, when he pulled out the gun, when the attacker walked away, and when he fired, and that's why he was charged.
Great clip of an amazing conversation. No quick sound bite, 30 second or 2 minute News interview. This is the way to talk about these things. Noir is a great advocate for the movement.
Crazy that Colion said he only shot 3 rounds after the event, when it was 8. Now he's saying 4-5 rounds. THIS is why you get a lawyer to speak with the cops for you, any little mishap in that interview room and you can go from defending yourself legally to homicide if you say the wrong thing/ make a memory mistake...
The bit about the homeless and inner city violence reminds me of a passage from one of Thomas Sowell's books. He describes how government subsidies corrupt altruistic community projects. Imagine a small neighborhood organizes the cleanup of a filthy lot in their area. The government steps in and provides funding for the cleanup effort, including a small salary for the organizers for the duration of the cleanup. What they've just done is financially incentivized the organizers to draw out the duration of the cleanup effort so they can pull from the government subsidy longer. One can easily imagine such a person, community-oriented and diligent, who nonetheless does some quick math and realizes if they milk the cleanup effort for just one or two extra weeks, the extra salary will help put their kids through college down the line.
If someone gets hit with a taser and they just stand there, it’s a bad connection between the probes. As a former cop, I have never seen anyone withstand a good connection from a taser. No matter how tough, high, drunk, etc… it has to do with a good connection. Which is hard to get.
Best serious video clip I’ve seen in years. “How to lie with statistics” is a real thing. Thank you both for having this conversation! It’s important that everyone knows accurate statistics and not intentionally misleading ones. Joe Rogan will never personally read this, but thank you for having real conversations that people care about, you are a gentleman and a scholar… I have more to say, but I’ll leave it there.
lyin with stats is only possible with ppl who cant think independently or critically. if u show me stats i usually always look at the stats seperate of what u say. if u say some shit like "We interviewed 1k people that played russian roulette. 100% survived." bro ill double take and call u out
There isn't anything remotely "serious" about having a literal paid shill for the NRA on to deep dive into the statistics and social analysis that he isn't at all qualified to authoritatively opine upon regarding gun violence in the US that the CDC literally described as a public health crisis. Rogan could have opted to actually have professional statitisticans and social scientists who specialize in this subject on...but that would be too much like "being the opposite of a raging idiot" for him and his producers.
@@Jsztke Not exactly true. Sound methodology, competency, and integrity of the research makes all the difference...and even then the work and its results must be subjected to rigorous peer review. This is why The Right created "Think Tanks" to circumvent the process because they know it was the only way to at least appear that their bullshit had a veneer of academic rigor
I live in Illinois and we have to take a 16 hour course to get a concealed carry license. Even though I served in the army and the reason is that the weapon I shot was a rifle. When I took the course I was 77 and I passed the course but that was because I went to the shooting range a number of times before I got my concealed carry license. I hope that other people of my age take some kind of classes before you try to get a license.
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16 hours is very long. Most places are 8hrs as all the necessary information can be conveyed thoroughly in that time with plenty of time for personal instruction and live fire testing. Many people these days work 6 or 7 days a week, so any not than 1 day cash be near impossible for many citizens to complete
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If you want to see the desired trajectory of the gun control advocates, just take a look at Canada. There are just more obstacles for them to get through here in the United States.
Yet Canada doesn't have teenage psycos shooting up schools. Neither does the UK, France, Netherlands, Australia or pretty much any other western country EVER. Because when it happened we DID SOMETHING!
@@super00su NO, every small town in Canada everyone owns guns, mostly long rifles. To the point that these new rules effect VERY few actual gun owners in Canada.
The problem with Tasers is unless you get a good spread with the darts you might not be able to immobilize the target fully. Especially if the darts are not fully penetrated into the skin of the subject. This is why the taser while being a good non-lethal weapon is useful, it really depends if you got a good shot on the subject.
Tasers do not have the deterrent effect of a firearm. If you are being home invaded your taser will be useless. Also, predators who are on a mission to commit a crime already have the advantage of mentally and physically preparing for action. Most intended victims have no clue what is about to go down while the criminals body is pumped full of adrenaline possibly mitigating some of the effects of a Taser.
The placement of the probes depends on how well the tasers work. The closer together the probes are, the less effective it is. The wider spread will take people down.
@@Makabert.Abylon your rhetorical question does nothing to push your argument. School shootings aren’t even a major portion of gun homicides, let alone gun deaths: inner city gang violence amongst very specific communities (with strict gun control laws) and suicide are the contributors to gun deaths, and people like leftist politicians and advocacy groups extrapolate such data to scare the public into making guns the problem when they’re not. But please, enlighten me because I “really don’t see it.”
How the f*ck do you lay a murder charge on someone who retaliates with force to an AK-47 pointed at him while simultaneously trying to ban "assualt rifles" because they're such a threat to human life? ?
For the record an AK-47 and AR-15 aren't assault rifles. They aren't even rifles. They're carbines. You can literally look up rifles vs carbines on TH-cam.
Jose Garza. Political DSA member DA who was funded by Soros. All part of the, "you should let people terrorize you as long as we, the status quo seems it acceptable, and you will bend over and say 'thank you sir can I have another.'" If you look on that case, an assistant DA resinged in protest because Garza withheld evidence of this case to the Grand Jury to propel a charge. There was alot of inside baseball with this case.
@@savageboxing1402 I quote right from the Ak-47 wiki page Kalashnikov "In 1944, he entered a design competition with this new 7.62×39mm, semi-automatic, gas-operated, long stroke piston carbine, strongly influenced by the American M1 Garand." See the word Carbine in bold. The ak-47 has always been a carbine and not a rifle. But also understand there is no such thing as an assault rifle. It's a word that doesn't have a real definition because it wasn't invented by gun people. It more of a hot phrase.
Note on the taser bit: no one really "resists" tasers. Old ones, maybe, since they worked more on pain compliance, but the modern ones literally turn your control over your muscles off because they attack your nerves dorectly. There's no way to fight it, regardless of drugs. Now, the reason they don't always work is because tasers require a specific set of conditions to work properly: A) the barbs have to pierce clothing and make it into the skin. No body contact = no work B) the barbs have to land close enough together to overcone the natural electrical resistance of the human body. If they land too far apart, they can't complete the circuit and thus no effect. Both of those conditions HAVE to occur at the same time in order for a modern taser to work. Ian over at Forgetten Weapons has an excellent video on the subject.
9:10. This needs no evidence, it’s just true. Knowing Social Services, there always is a need unfortunately. Colion is top in my book. Love the content.
As someone who doesn't live in the USA I have no right to tell you how to set your gun laws but responsible ownership and training is a positive way forward. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
2:55 having to break something down doesn't show you how thin a line is. It could also be a really thick line and sometimes you may have to break down an edge case
The comparison of "comprehensive testing" cars vs guns is strictly constitutional. There cannot be a "test" for rights, lest we assume such "qualifications" test could also be applied to such things as voting, and other similar rights.
I agree there should be no test for voting (or any constitutional rights), but we’d probably be in a much better situation if people actually had to have knowledge of what they were voting for…
@@WindyCity1014 like what specifically? Voter ID? Which is a more racist stand. A. Voter ID is needed to insure all citizens votes count equally. Or B. Voter ID is racist because "some" people are (to stupid) to find the DMV or have and know how to use the internet to obtain IDs accepted to vote? Sorry, voter ID is used in nearly every country,... so how do feel this is a problem for "some" citizens? If that is your belief.
Thank you for having me on, it's nice to have a long-form conversation about guns in this country.
Incredible breakdown on the stats man 🔥
You are a credit to the gun community.
I loved you’re Qutoe “The war on drugs and terror didn’t work the war on Guns won’t work Too” not to mention Prohibition was a war on Alcohol and boom the Italian Mafia was selling it illegally
God bless
Keep up the good work.
My high school used to have a gun range, and they taught firearm safety . . . as well as wood shop, mechanic shop, home ec, personal finance . . .etc.
That same school now teaches about gay penguins and that men can have babies.
Yea so did my high school … in the 1950s … we don’t live in that world anymore. We don’t even live in the world of 20 years ago. We live here now and what used to work no longer works. You don’t go out and buy a new computer and install windows 95 on it do you ? The world is not the same place get a grip
HowItUsedToBe you are correct. The world is not the same anymore. In facts it's much much more dangerous and it has never been more important to carry a weapon than now.
Home economics and personal finance being taught on a gun range!? Interesting.
@@taylorleteff2717 Statistically the world is a lot safer then say even the 70s. Idk what makes you think its more dangerous lmao
For anybody who is curious, whenever you see a video of someone being tazed and they have no reaction to it, it's not because they "just ate it", it's because both of the prongs did not hit the target. Tazers require both of the prongs that are fired to hit the target for the tazer to actually take effect. It is actually quite common that both prongs don't connect on the first shot because of clothing on the target and other factors, so tazers are generally armed with two rounds because of this.
Or they just blazed a pcp blunt and they are also not faded by it at all.
I have seen video of both probes in a bare chest. Still didn’t work. Some people are just built differently. Or high af.
I was gonna say, from my limited experience with electronics as a mechanic, one of the only reasons a circuit would be finicky like that is a loose connection to the main source. So if the prongs don't punch correctly, it won't be as effective.
I beg to differ, at least once!
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Its also why, in the event there is only one police officer on scene, a taser isn’t used.
You should have lethal cover when using non lethals (simply because lethal has a better chance of keeping the officer’s safe).
I like this man, facts and to the point. Get him on again
Nah. He’s pro gun. NRA member. Just perpetuate the gun violence in our country and the mental patients that are able to easily access assault rifles to commit mass murders.
this dude just took 15 mins of our to blame gun violence in USA on systematic racism. you sure these are facts?
He actually said I have NO data to back this up and we should congratulate him for "facts". Not to be a prick but that seems counterintuitive no?
@@tonytrident8874 he did? Honestly I don’t really feel like watching all this business again, if anyone can elaborate and go into detail, I’d probably be willing to read.
@@tonytrident8874 Not to be a prick, but Colion is one of the most knowledgeable lawyers and 2A advocates on constitutional gun rights that uses his huge platform to spread awareness, education and facts. Just because he says he doesn't have DATA to back this up (poverty and gun violence) doesn't mean he's "making it up". He's merely pointing out that gun violence in the inner city ensures that local LA politicians and directors may need the problem to persist in order to justify their $260,000 salaries. It more than likely means that the data needs to be collated from an authoritative source like the FBI, ATF, CDC, etc. Which will never happen because there is a one party majority. It's like, why would you investigate the root cause if it meant fixing it was your a$$ and livelihood. Make sense?
Man it’s refreshing to hear people thinking for themselves and not just following a narrative
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Especially black people
anyone who believes in what your logic is they're thinking for themselves and are hero's anyone else..... obviously they're not thinking for themselves and are wrong. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡.
when you go buy a product from the store you look for that one doctor's recommendation who wasn't the 9 out of 10 doctor's that didn't recommend... "'bEcAUsE hEe ThIKns fOR hIMmSeLf " lmao
@@555Cook It's a shame that kid won't grow up with a positive man role model in it's life.
*In terms of gun related suicides....*
As a Marine buddy of my told me, "If you're ever thinking about eating a Round, eat a mushroom instead; it's a heck of a lot healthier for the brain and the head."
Shrooms legit save lives after the military.
Indeed!
Joe Rogan once had Dr. Rick Doblin on who was discussing MAPS working on that. It's the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies.
Re-writes your brain to help fight depression as well. Kudos
Amen, brother. Is that why you've got a Zendo Project logo?
Eating lead sounds like a better idea, personally speaking.
Lsd will do the same. Look at the universe in a whole new light.
It's great to see someone like Colion on your show
We need young knowledgeable people who actually know their stuff running this country. Not old farts from a like a century ago who are so out of touch with everyday people. This guy is awesome
*Some* old farts. Most who I know are treasure troves of common sense, wisdom and knowledge and would be perfect for this country.
We just happen to be currently stuck with a senile puppet.
One good thing about old people though, is that they've seen it all experienced it all. So they have an intuition if something is a waste of time or could work. Loads of wisdom. But that being said a bit younger I believe is helpful. like 40's & 50's
@@fleatactical7390 Unfortunately every older person I know are weird, their bodies are falling apart, and they are just really weird man. Even the ones I respect I can’t stand to be around for to long because of how odd they act.
Yet we elected a president who referred to black children as cockroaches and used the term Negro to describe black people. Look it up on here if you don't believe me.
@@CoolSmoovie if you didn’t know, as humans age their bodies breakdown from the wear and tear of life. Good healthy bodies don’t last a lifetime.
It’s not the elderly who are weird and odd. It’s you. I’m sure you have beliefs that are completely unjustified and poorly thought out and do things without good reason or understanding. You are weird and odd because of them and people who believe and act with well reasoned perspectives seem weird and odd to you.
As the former state prosecutor/attorney who was present during Colion running the scenarios: he did a great job as the videos will show!
He really shot someone in real life?
I enjoyed running the scenarios and discussing the nuances with you!
@@ColionNoir you the man bro!
As an electrician I can attest, getting hit by 277V is like someone hitting you with a baseball bat. It's much more dangerous than a taser. It will either knock you on your ass, or wake you up better than any coffee or energy drink ever will
Ive been thinking about becoming an electrician. How likely would you say it is to experience a shock accident if you're a responsible worker?
@@Biggiiful always shut off the breaker to whatever you’re working on. I’m not a certified electrician but I’ve changed attic fans, outlets, light fixtures and I always shut off the breakers when I do anything involving electricity. People who do any electrical work with just turning off a switch are insane lol
@@rippindrummer666 and then check with a multimeter to make sure what you're about to work on is actually off, after you switch the breaker, just to be safe.
@@Biggiiful Shut everything off like rippindrummer said whenever I do electrical work with my pops in our properties we turn the whole house off via the breaker.
@@Biggiiful
It's actually not that likely if you're safe and take all the proper safety protocols. I've been an electrician for 15 years now, and I've only been hit once. I was working on landscape lighting @ the Mandalay Bay in Vegas. I went to change out a bulb and got lit up because the fixture wire was exposed on the inside of the housing, and became energized. Went through my hand and grounded me through my knee. Hit me pretty good. It happens so fast you don't even realize what's happening til it's over. Grabs hold of you and contracts your muscles.
We follow very strict OSHA safety precautions. We're actually never supposed to work on circuits that are energized, unless it's medical life support systems @ hospitals. And if we do those, we get suited up in arc blast suits.
It's a good career man. Definitely don't be scared by electricity, once you learn how it works, you learn to respect it, and not fear it.
We make good wages, good health benefits, and I have 2 pension plans through the IBEW Local 357(union).
I don’t know about you but when I got my concealed carry permit I had to go to a shooting range and was tested for shot accuracy I had to take a three hour course of gun safety and basic understanding/ knowledge
I also had a 6 hr course and shooting test but only because I had to to legally ccw in my state. I was apposed to the process but after illegal ccw for 10 years I figured I had to much to loose. Im apposed because as Colin mentioned, its a constitutional right.. The second amendment does say you have the right to bear arms and does not say only if your local jurisdiction thinks you should. The biggest issue with ccw is putting ourselves on a list of people to confiscate firearms from when the ATF keeps redefining laws to include everyone. Registration *will* result in confiscate eventually. If not in my lifetime then my kid's lifetime. With how public schools and the main stream media has been brainwashing the mass population into gun hysteria there will be no 2nd amendment in a few more generations.
In Georgia we have “permitless carry”. It’s a new law but I’m pretty sure it applies to concealed carry. No class, no background check, and no license.
Can you imagine being forced to pass a class in order to speak to the public and you don't having your right to free speech taken from you and being thrown in jail because having a pod cast about guns is considered to dangerous?
@@beausannieoakleyposse7249 can you imagine being forced to take a written and skills based test to drive a car. Pretty soon they’ll take all our cars!
@@mattgrooms1853 you only have to take a written/driving test to drive on government roads. You can own and drive any car on your own property. You also do not have a "right" to a car like you do a firearm.
I have a great amount of respect for this man.
I remember seeing a map somewhere regarding U.S. gun violence, and it blew my mind that like six urban-suburban counties, and I want to say you could even break it down to cross streets of certain cities to look at shooting numbers, were where most gun homicides occurred. Wild stuff. But Noir is right.....if you're a politician, why do the work and improve your constituents lives when you can politicize and blamethrow? That goes for Dems and GOP on their respective lists of political footballs.
What's even crazier is that they all reside in the areas with the most strict gun control legislation in the country, too. There is a website dedicated to just tracking the gun violence in Chicago.
@@technewb8241 Inconvenient truth
@William Tell what the hell are you on about? “Suffer”? The whole country suffers? You seriously saying we should have more guns and knives? Clown
What specific steps does Noir think politicians should take to improve mental health and wealth inequality? Most of the same people who oppose gun control also oppose government spending on mental health and social services.
@@technewb8241 gun control doesn't work if you don't do it everywhere. It's like trying to pour water out of a boat filled with holes. That's why every country that has gun control does it nationally/federally.
Colion hit the nail on the head when he pointed out the fact that a lot of gang violence is being counted as "mass shootings."
So what.. guns are still too easily available.. he hit a nail.. but he just made a big whole on the wall..
Huh? If someone in a gang is shooting at multiple people then that IS a mass shooting. The targets of shooting are not relevant.
Regardless our country has an abundance of easily accessible guns. That’s why we have more mass shootings than any country by a GIANT margin.
@@BobRoss-wm3lc Yep that is an undeniable truth.
Insane that there are so many Americans that ignore this fact. It seems as if they simply have no empathy for others and all that matters is their own enjoyment.
@@umzizidz1111 As they should be. Guns should be easily available for law abiding citizens.
Solid stuff - thanks for having Colion on!
Colin you are such very well educated and well spoken man. It's too bad the majority of people won't hear this.
Colion Noir always speaks the truth and backs it up with the receipts!
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These are the kinds of conversations that we need to be having about guns.
This is just a circle jerk...Two people of the same opinion rehashing why it's a good opinion. This is not the type of conversation about firearms America needs.
Sadly the only conversation we will hear from main stream media "no guns will fix thing" or "more guns will fix things". The fact that these people don't care about suicides proves that Media and Politicians are only interested in personal gain not the betterment of society.
Facts.
They don't want cnvos like these.
By repeating the same easily discredited right wing propaganda memes that fox news and the rest of the propaganda mills do? Laughable
Everyone NEEDS to watch the video Colion Nior is talking about. The CCW scenario videos are SUPER informative
Colion is such a smart guy. I love listening to him talk and break things down.
Education on guns seems like such an instrumental thing to do, regardless of where you're at on the matter of having/not having guns.
Why is that not the first thing to consider?
Because that wouldn't increase the control of the ruling class, which is their goal. You're assuming they want to fix things.
Most of the states that even require CCW classes make you take them with awful instructors. Not to say you need to have been shot at, but if your instructor is NRA certified, weighs 340lbs, and has a SERPA holster, you're about to receive some horrible gear/legal/survival advice outside generic rules of gun safety.
@Ok Alright Don't Tread on Me is only a bad slogan if you're British or a tyrant. Triggered much?
@Ok Alright #ThomasPaine
@Ok Alright A lot of assumptions and baseless generalizations there. I don't even know what you're trying to say with the blue line/tread on me, 50/50 thing. Seems like your perception of "gun owners" comes entirely from reddit or something. I agree it would be nice if we could all hold hands and talk about this stuff rationally and without emotion clouding our judgement, could stick to just practicality and factual info... but that shit went out the window years ago. Idk what world you're living in to believe millions of people can be rational and respectful of other opinions/situations. The root problem is not guns, the root problem is the fact that our society pumps out people who would sh*ot up an elementary school. No rational, mentally stable, moral person would do that, no matter how many scary guns they own.
1000% agree with Noir on the issue of poverty and mental health. Where I grew up in West Baltimore people who lived in old family houses often passed down from their grandparents were more likely to escape poverty and not be involved in violent crimes. That's not to say most didn't do crime, it was just that it was not necessary for people (myself included) to commit crime since we had access to basic things. However! the people who grew up in rowhomes and apartments were worse off! They were always committing crime and causing problems. Hell, one of my friends before he passed at 17 (SEVENTEEN!!) years old had the nickname "Felony" because the dude committed so many crimes that eventually the courts charged him as an adult. Ironically, he did not die by gang violence, he had MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES and shot himself. So I agree that there are so many problems with poverty and when you have mental health and/or mental illnesses or severe mental illness running in your family on top of that, it makes the situation worse. People in leadership always say "we need to talk about it" but then never take action needed to change these situations.
Oh you agree with someone that confirms your bias?
Why then do other countries have similar rates of mental illness but no shootings?
It doesn't seem fair to raise a child in hell and not expect mental health issues. Like the chicken and the egg, which came first? What causes poverty? The fastest track to the poor house is a single parent house. I suspect if we had healthier whole families, we'd have less poverty and less mental illness. Decades of numbers says that's true.
Yeah these days many kids start to sell drugs because it isn't worth for them to work a normal job since they don't make enough money compared to drug trafficking. It's interesting how instead of figuring ways to try to reduce prices and tax to make it easier for people to live, instead politicians just talk about it, just take more taxes, become rich, and do nothing about it. We don't only have gun crime go up, but every crime go up.
may have some truth but listen that is the new tag line. R's being screaming they coming for your guns boogie man shit my whole life. All while cutting access to basic services. Cutting benefits to Mental Health, medicaid, voting against min wage increases. I like guns own guns. I give 2 shits If I can buy an AR or if my 18 yo can buy one. Who givesa a shit. We all know what we were doing at 18. Hell you cant rent a car unless you 25 handgun 21. So the rest of this shit is all cap.
I think If they started charging drug dealers with the crime that drug dealing allways results in , "Murder" , that it would be a huge deterrent to involving yourself in those activities.
We need more Colion
Great conversation !
If only we could get people to open up at least enough and listen to conversations like this.
Unfortunately people have been so programmed into tribalistic ideas that they stay willfully ignorant on subjects such as this.
Owning a gun isn’t a constitutional right. It’s an inherent right protected by the constitution.
Its an amendment,which obviously been changed from the original draft so it can be changed.
Its not normal in the 21st century to keep harping on about a piece of paper written so long ago..No other country on the planet has the violent crime/murder like yours and its high time you grew up and realised it.
whoop de fucking do
And this dude is "a lawyer" & thinks he's a genius on 2a issues, lol
@@leahvogel5527 always gotta nitpick, huh?
@@leahvogel5527 I mean he has a law degree... You're the only one here throwing around the genius epithet. Colion never says that about himself.
Mr.Noir is a attorney and an expert when it comes to 2A issues and anything regarding the constitution really!
Dude is sharp!
The thing I love the most about him: He's not an idiot
@@ilovebutterstuff nobody ever said he was
However considering he is literally funded by the NRA, you can take a guess at his view point and arguments.
Especially the part about a militia being well regulated.
I like how a cop being patient with a suspect is surprising and not the expectation.
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Me:
Sir that is a hypothesis.
This conversation is gold. It needs to be had. Good job Joe.
This why the leftists want to cancel joe rogan..
@@Theghostofpeter that's why refuse to debate a conservative. There whole world view is built on lies.
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Colion is a great educator .. truly.
Hello my friend, I see you EVERYWHERE! Lol
Isn’t he the guy that argued John Oliver wasn’t white?
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I have always been a gun control advocate. I’m a 71 year old white woman that have never held a gun. But I wanted to understand the other side. Thanks to you and Colton Noir and watching this podcast 2 times, I now understand! Thank you so much! I will never own a gun, and will just have to die if necessary (probably strong Mennonite/pacifist DNA in there) but I understand and truly support the gun advocates!
Lol stop making up lies on the internet while you are alone in your shitty apartment
Thank you for getting out of your political comfort zone just to understand a topic better. We need more people like you in my generation. As a 21 year old I have no idea why people my age are so emotional and don’t think rationally or logically. Thanks Cheri!
Am I understanding your comment accurately you would rather than die than defend yourself?
Thank you for having an open mind.
So, if my understanding is correct; you'd rather die than own a gun, basically? Hmm!
Man, this guy absolutely crushed it
@Chain5'9s did he shoot anyone. Oh right blame an object. Yea makes perfect sense
This guy is spitting facts.
fax*
@@User-xw5mk 😂 No, facts. A fax is transferring an image of a paper through phone lines.
No he's not!!!!
@@KO-OG-Passport-Bro-1997 Give us an example where he is not!
@@roberts6872 What about it?
KY has Constitutional Carry now as well, but I also renewed my KY CCW bc it is recognized by neighboring states I travel to.
Okay this is way funnier if you think KY jelly 😂 instead of the state
The part about the taser brought back a fond memory.
I was working at a prison and was learning about the stun gun. The instructor told me to grab his arm. He pressed it against my fore arm. I fought it for about 7 seconds. It felt like my muscles were doing waves. It was painful but I fought it. It sucked hard.
The point is: Theres no end all. Drugs can make people super human. Some people can just fight through the pain. Its a false sense of security. Just like carrying a gun. The only sure fire method of ending a confrontation is a rocket launcher. Lol.
I think one of the things missed is the "prolonged exposure to poverty" may actually be the most influential: those in poverty, especially cities (so this can sort of explain why West Virginia isn't as violent), is lead exposure. We know biologically that lead exposure decreases not only IQ, but also decision making skills. Removal of lead from gasoline has been shown to reduce crime ~20 years later everywhere it has happened by a significant amount (this is why crime in the US dropped substantially in the 1990s, for instance). I'm generally anti-government intervention, but if government can actually improve lives somewhere, it would be cleaning up lead in inner cities.
watch a special on leaded gasoline they said the guy who put lead in gasoline killed more people than anyone ever in history stuff was deadly some amazing stats and facts in that show
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Government intervention on stuff that enhances capitalism is never a bad thing. Crime only further suppresses capitalism. This is why regulation that doesnt deal with environmental protection or property rights is wrong.
Look at Flint. You really think the government is trying to help anyone?
@@dr._breens_beard so you think that extremely rich corporations buying up a shit ton of houses and then jacking up all the rents is a good thing? That's capitalism as we know it in the USA. I'm not saying it's bad. But let's face facts. At the end of the day corporate Giants have now interest in keeping more and more of their profits rather than sharing it with their employees who work to get them that wealth. Common sense that eventually that's going to cause the economy to become as it is now. And steadily get worse and be as fragile as it is. Things like the recession don't affect the Uber rich, only the poorer, working class. Share the wealth more and you'd see a much much happier society. I promise you that. Ppl are just absolute miserable anymore and it's because most ppl are struggling paycheck to paycheck and assholes just say shit like you should try harder or get a better job. It's not always that simple.
Patriots will never give up their guns no matter what. 🇺🇸
Yep, we can see that.
And nor should we. It's a human right to be able to defend yourself
@@mikew2479 don't let america Venezuela
We should give up our guns when we give up our military. I'm a veteran who doesn't own a gun and if I wanted to get one I should be able
@@roofkorean2067 derp
In answer to the taser question, modern tasers work on the theory of Neuromuscular Incapacitation, the greater the spread on the probes, the more muscle mass that's affected. This combined with the pain, is better capable of incapacitating a subject that older generations or stun guns...which merely operate on pain compliance. If a person appears to be unaffected, it's typically because the 2nd probe hasn't made contact, or potentially illicit substances are a factor.
I've always wondered why suicides are listed in the gun stats under gun violence... suicides aren't" violence ". a suicide is, a violent thing, but the definition they are using when collecting gun violence statistics isn't the same definition. to be violent is a description, whereas violence is an action, a verb.
I feel like there's no other reason to include suicides with the rest of the data , than just to pump up the numbers on paper. perhaps it affects government funding on some level or something? honestly, just no idea.
Same reason covid numbers were inflated, to push a narrative.
@@alexsawicki1721 - Right, exactly. Bladed murders are a nightmare for law enforcement, considering blades don't leave behind residue, or leave bullet casings or impact trajectories, etc. You also can't trace a knife back to it's owner either.
It's for no other reason than because politicians simply fear them. The government would be thrilled if guns were taken away, because an unarmed populace is an obedient populace.
Just look at how the UK and Australia treat it's citizenry for example. COVID was a godsend in a way, because it provided a relatively harmless virus that ultimately showed the government's true colors. It allowed the Mask to be removed momentarily, and the stark difference between how those other governments handled and treated their populations vs how the US approached theirs, speaks VOLUMES.
And the single, solitary difference between these populations comes down to: GUNS. The US population is heavily armed, the others are not.
Which is exactly why the US government never really went any further than declaring "guidelines" and "suggestions" and "policies". Those other countries just straight up MANDATED and ORDERED their populations, going so far as to build encampment zones and even jailing certain people. It's spooky how fast the illusion of "democracy" crumbles when the government has no reason to keep up appearances.
A good guest for Rogan. Nice to see Noir on such a show where a large audience exists to learn the facts on the topic, vs what the media feeds them.
His opinions are not facts.
@@PLF... Then it's a good thing he presented mostly facts.
@@PLF... you know nothing
@@PLF... opinions alone are not facts. But his opinions ALIGN and are shaped by facts. Very much unlike yourself.
@@ReanuKeevesAus Probably a "don't confuse me with facts" anti gun derp who didn't even watch it. He supported everything he said with easy to verify stats.
“My friend Dana White”😂🤣
Funniest part of the whole clip 😂
Mr. Colion Noir, you sir are awesome, I appreciate your input on these matters.
I've seen the videos Colion is talking about. When he was first asked how many rounds he fired. Colion swore up and down he fired 3, in reality he fired 8. But telling the cop that one little incorrect detail can ruin anything else you say. Always plead the 5th and get a lawyer.
Adrenalin is a helluva drug...
Finally someone intelligent speaking facts about guns
Love listening to Colin… feel like I learn something new every time.
Thats sad. C.N. is an enemy of freedom and the rights of the people. And supoorts the very things that he claims to be against due to his own ignorance. Key indicators is "muh 2nd amendment rights", when the 2nd amendment doesn't grant rights. Its a restriction on government. Our rights are natural. "Law abiding citizen", yea if the founders were law abiding citizens there would be british flags in our front yards right now.
C.N. openly supports cops. Cite where exactly in our constitution that "we the people" (which includes me) gave government the authority to police society. You can't because it doesn't exist. It doesn't exist because standing armies are the most dangerous cause to the rights of the people and freedom. Yet c.N. openly supports them. So is it that he knows something and is an enemy. He is ignorant and an enemy. Reguardless he is ignorant making the ignorant even more ignorant. While having them (you) support your own oppression
He faking dog
Kinda like looking in the toilet after every poop.
Yeah learn something new but it was still shit.
Colin is redirecting to avoid the issue.
is Colin his white name that he took on?
thought his name was Colion
I believe his real legal given name js Collins.
I've been around guns my whole life did lots of hunting and was on a trap team in highschool the number one rule I was always taught is to NEVER point a gun at something you don't intend to shoot it's common sense honestly lack of gun education is crippling this country I know some families and individuals hate them but we should all learn to operate a firearm safely regardless because they are here and I garuntee no government will EVER take them from American citizens
I wouldn't say intend to shot is the right phrase. I wouldd say don't point at something you are willing to shoot.
We need gun safety back in schools like we had up until recently. It could be put into a health class or PE requirement and wouldnt even take that long. I remember having to do track, tennis, flag football, golf, frisbee golf, volley ball, and more, so why not add a gun safety requirement. The extent that I had gun safety in school as a 22 year old was like 10 mins of a DARE program which was when police came in during elementary school to teach about how drugs and alcohol was bad. What they did was just say guns are dangerous dont touch them and get an adult if you see one and tell.
@@ryama8651 I'm willing to shoot a lot of things. I don't point a weapon at something I don't intend to shoot
Hell yeah us gun owners need to stop trusting these shit eating republicans too and remember that Reagan passed the most restrictive gun laws of any US president but gun loving conservatives still look up to him! Both sides are the same amount of lies and bullshit.
They are slowly eroding the 2A. Read the dissenting opinions on some of the recent 2A Supreme Court rulings. All they need are the numbers and it’ll be revoked. Never rest on your laurels and think it would never happen.
Incredibly informative and thank you for that
When it comes to self-perpetuating government, it's not just gun violence - it's the entire Prohibition machine. There are VAST amounts of money flowing to maintain the current status quo in the War on Drugs. There are entire government agencies whose existence depends on the War on Drugs continuing, not to mention all the NGOs and other organizations that depend on Federal anti-drug money.
Truth. Just like rogan bringing up the cottage industry surrounding "fighting homelessness" guarantees homelessness will never be dealt with, because there is too much money to be made pretending to fight it, the "War on drugs" won't ever be won, because there is too much incentive for the gvmt to keep it up. They will loose trillions in their dept budgets if they ever actually stopped drugs from being sold and used in the US.
It's kinda funny, that we all know how much money the Columbian and Mexican cartels make selling drugs, something to the tune of 100 billion a year, but that pales in comparison to how much money the FBI and DEA and DHS and state and local gvmts have spent on fighting those drugs. Drug dealers and smugglers and criminal gangs made literal fortunes with drugs, but the US gvmt has taken tens of trillions from taxpayers to pretend they're fighting it. Someone is making money using prohibition as their excuse for sure, but it's not who you'd expect it to be.
The crazy thing about all that is movies are being (and have been) made about how government organizations use drug money to fund their wars. It's common knowledge at this point. Yet these organizations still exist and are allowed to continue doing what they've been doing. Americans don't care enough to do anything about it, or hold our politicians accountable.
And private Penetentiory System
Yep…. The cocaine trade over the US-MEX boarder is worth a estimated 60-100 billion a year…. The corruption goes deep… you would be kidding yourself if the so called elite are not involved… all that tax free coin… the richest people in the world control the drug trade.. the cartels are the bogeyman.. bait and switch…
@@kermittheflog763 intresting point, is there a way to invest in Mexican Narcos,asking for a Friend
Colion Noir is an amazing 2A advocate. I found him about two years ago and I got my husband to watch him. He's intelligent and is doing great things for gun owners all around the United States.
seems like he's just trying to fill his pockets with his merch money
@@idkhowtospell seems like you a hater and need to get your merch money up.
@@idkhowtospell na
@@replexity really? what has he done for 2a other than give speeches for money while the common man has to fight thru Hella restrictions for a simple handgun. I'll wait
@@idkhowtospell do u know what the word advocate means
This is the episode everyone in the entire country needs to watch, sit back and absorb the information.
Everyone in America needs to listen to two idiots? This clown said Canada was "a part of England". Firstly, England isn't a sovereign nation. Its part of the UK and Canada is a separate country to the UK and a sovereign nation. He also claimed the Queen makes all of Canada's policies. Canada has its own parliament, Prime Minister and executive.
So, no. No one with an IQ above 60 should listen to these fools.
The taser electrodes need to go in specific spots to incapacitate the person. If youre wearing thick clothes or the electrodes dont make contact in the right place it becomes a pain compliance tool rather than involuntarily incapacitating the person like it does under ideal conditions and elecrode placement.
No-one can override a taser under ideal conditions. Its high failure rate is caused by incorrect placement or lack of penetration of the electrodes due to thick clothes.
I remember that guy at the 7 eleven which was shot on film of a guy assaulting him and then going after him more while the guy was on the ground and the prosecuted tried arguing the attacker was retreating. Sometimes you can do everything right and still get charged. Ridiculous.
better charged then dead.
If your talking about the shooting in Flotida, I agree it was unjustified.
A woman in Massachusetts was criminally charged and ended up doing time for shooting a burglar. The reason? She could have retreated and escaped through her back door which was locked, dead bolted and braced from the inside. Imagine in a high stress situation how long it would have taken her to dismantle the brace assembly, release the deadbolt, unlock the door and run away. That's how ridiculous laws are in New England in general. In Massachusetts one has to apply for a permit to carry mace which is awarded on a 'may issue' and not a 'shall issue' basis.
He can retreat all he wants but if he is still armed he is an active threat...and let's not forget that he is posessed of free will and could change his mind , turn and come back to continue the job.coming at you or going away, if armed that person represents an active threat and that threat must be neutralized.period.
If this is the incident where the older gentleman had a dispute with a younger guy because he parked in a handicapped spot, the older gentleman was in the wrong. His judgment may have been clouded because he was probably afraid and his adrenaline was high in the moment, but as soon as he pulled his gun out, the guy that was attacking him started walking away... and he shot him anyway. As Colion said in the video, there is a very thin line between justified and unjustified, and looking at the video, it was not a justifiable shooting. Had he still been attacking him when he shot him, it would be a different story, but since the guy started walking away when the gun was pulled out, it's no longer a defensible argument to say he shot him in self-defense, because the attack was over and the offender was retreating. The point in using a gun (whether just brandishing or firing to stop someone) is to end the threat. The threat was over when the guy started walking away; you can't just shoot him because you're upset he attacked you. Like I said, maybe he was caught up in the moment, but in the video, there is a very distinct pause between when he was being attacked, when he pulled out the gun, when the attacker walked away, and when he fired, and that's why he was charged.
I appreciate both of these guys for being willing to talk about the truth of the matter, any matter.
lol
This guy is speaking facts ! 💯
I always found it funny in Canada that during your firearms course they never actually bring you into a range and have you fire a firearm
Such an intelligent conversation. Could listen to him speak about laws and gun issues any time.
Great clip of an amazing conversation. No quick sound bite, 30 second or 2 minute News interview. This is the way to talk about these things. Noir is a great advocate for the movement.
“my friend dana white” now that’s one badass statement lol
Crazy that Colion said he only shot 3 rounds after the event, when it was 8. Now he's saying 4-5 rounds. THIS is why you get a lawyer to speak with the cops for you, any little mishap in that interview room and you can go from defending yourself legally to homicide if you say the wrong thing/ make a memory mistake...
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The bit about the homeless and inner city violence reminds me of a passage from one of Thomas Sowell's books.
He describes how government subsidies corrupt altruistic community projects.
Imagine a small neighborhood organizes the cleanup of a filthy lot in their area. The government steps in and provides funding for the cleanup effort, including a small salary for the organizers for the duration of the cleanup. What they've just done is financially incentivized the organizers to draw out the duration of the cleanup effort so they can pull from the government subsidy longer.
One can easily imagine such a person, community-oriented and diligent, who nonetheless does some quick math and realizes if they milk the cleanup effort for just one or two extra weeks, the extra salary will help put their kids through college down the line.
You have a really low opinion of people don't you.
@@powderandpaint14 No, and I find your assumption incredibly ironic.
That makes no sense at all
@@stonedecatur6602 th-cam.com/video/OrPxEmOV0YI/w-d-xo.html
So a few extra dollars go to the poorest members of our society, what's the problem?
Watching the first minute of this video thinking Noir casually shot someone 4 times
Constitutional right versus a privilege.....sums it up
Great stuff!
Colion is an excellent voice for the 2a community and seems like an awesome person. Would love to put some rounds down range with him.
That some gay euphemism?
"Getting tased and falling down is for cookie cutters" -Big Lenny. He took the taser like a champ
He then proceeded to eat a raw egg with shell
@@Carlos-fh8wk the look on Lenny’s face when he’s caught with the egg in his mouth hahahahah
"My friend Dana White"
"He does this show, sometimes I'm on it."
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If someone gets hit with a taser and they just stand there, it’s a bad connection between the probes. As a former cop, I have never seen anyone withstand a good connection from a taser. No matter how tough, high, drunk, etc… it has to do with a good connection. Which is hard to get.
Best serious video clip I’ve seen in years. “How to lie with statistics” is a real thing. Thank you both for having this conversation! It’s important that everyone knows accurate statistics and not intentionally misleading ones. Joe Rogan will never personally read this, but thank you for having real conversations that people care about, you are a gentleman and a scholar… I have more to say, but I’ll leave it there.
lyin with stats is only possible with ppl who cant think independently or critically. if u show me stats i usually always look at the stats seperate of what u say. if u say some shit like "We interviewed 1k people that played russian roulette. 100% survived." bro ill double take and call u out
@@RobinXlone ...and everyone clapped
There isn't anything remotely "serious" about having a literal paid shill for the NRA on to deep dive into the statistics and social analysis that he isn't at all qualified to authoritatively opine upon regarding gun violence in the US that the CDC literally described as a public health crisis. Rogan could have opted to actually have professional statitisticans and social scientists who specialize in this subject on...but that would be too much like "being the opposite of a raging idiot" for him and his producers.
stats are bullshit cause you can use them to prove any point.
@@Jsztke Not exactly true. Sound methodology, competency, and integrity of the research makes all the difference...and even then the work and its results must be subjected to rigorous peer review. This is why The Right created "Think Tanks" to circumvent the process because they know it was the only way to at least appear that their bullshit had a veneer of academic rigor
Always great content Mr. Rogan
I live in Illinois and we have to take a 16 hour course to get a concealed carry license. Even though I served in the army and the reason is that the weapon I shot was a rifle. When I took the course I was 77 and I passed the course but that was because I went to the shooting range a number of times before I got my concealed carry license. I hope that other people of my age take some kind of classes before you try to get a license.
1 Frank Schlosser ck Fuk what you saying it here 😠 th-cam.com/video/8zrfSK6pnpQ/w-d-xo.html
Felicidades, es un buen ejemplo. 😠
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16 hours is very long. Most places are 8hrs as all the necessary information can be conveyed thoroughly in that time with plenty of time for personal instruction and live fire testing.
Many people these days work 6 or 7 days a week, so any not than 1 day cash be near impossible for many citizens to complete
Please keep the conversation and information coming
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Felicidades, es un buen ejemplo. 😠
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If you want to see the desired trajectory of the gun control advocates, just take a look at Canada. There are just more obstacles for them to get through here in the United States.
Yet Canada doesn't have teenage psycos shooting up schools. Neither does the UK, France, Netherlands, Australia or pretty much any other western country EVER. Because when it happened we DID SOMETHING!
The when they say gun control, they mean no one has guns. Give them a inch.
@@super00su NO, every small town in Canada everyone owns guns, mostly long rifles. To the point that these new rules effect VERY few actual gun owners in Canada.
@@messagedeleted1922 what is point, if you are 17 in Canada and you turn 18 next year and you want a gun then what?
@@super00su No. They mean only the government gets the power of firearms.
This guy is a very interesting guest. I'd not heard of him until I saw this. Definitely going to check out his channel.
That's the thing about firearms versus tasers no matter how high someone is a bullet will stop their heart and they will no longer be a threat
I always get excited to hear this dude. Glad he's back on the podcast!!
Considering you get to hear him after every major mass shooting in the U.S., you get to hear him often.
@@AlanDantes76 Yep, nothing like the endless parade of far right grifter conmen that joe solely has on the show these days..
@@hannibalb8276 so standing up for natural rights, recognized by our constitution makes you a far right grifter?
@@ethanwiley7605 lol
The problem with Tasers is unless you get a good spread with the darts you might not be able to immobilize the target fully. Especially if the darts are not fully penetrated into the skin of the subject. This is why the taser while being a good non-lethal weapon is useful, it really depends if you got a good shot on the subject.
So what you're saying is that in the hands of most Police, the taser is not useful- few are 'good shots'.
Tasers do not have the deterrent effect of a firearm. If you are being home invaded your taser will be useless. Also, predators who are on a mission to commit a crime already have the advantage of mentally and physically preparing for action. Most intended victims have no clue what is about to go down while the criminals body is pumped full of adrenaline possibly mitigating some of the effects of a Taser.
You are spot on point, thank you
Also talking about bureaucracy and a government-run organization, dmv, versus small business owners, gun shop
The placement of the probes depends on how well the tasers work. The closer together the probes are, the less effective it is. The wider spread will take people down.
Gotta hit both hemispheres for the full body drop
@@frankomalley8034 exactly
So good to see him on here we need more of the big gun tubers on here and other podcast
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Finally it's here
@Chain5'9s very good idea, up the already tragic statistics you have over there and only over there
@@Makabert.Abylon How many school shootings have occurred from teachers and hired security who were armed?
@@CrowandRaven ”teachers and hired security who were armed”.. that sentence alone, wow… you really dont see it do you
@@Makabert.Abylon your rhetorical question does nothing to push your argument. School shootings aren’t even a major portion of gun homicides, let alone gun deaths: inner city gang violence amongst very specific communities (with strict gun control laws) and suicide are the contributors to gun deaths, and people like leftist politicians and advocacy groups extrapolate such data to scare the public into making guns the problem when they’re not.
But please, enlighten me because I “really don’t see it.”
Colin is the man, thanks for putting him on bud
Nation wide mandatory minimum 5 years for anyone caught with a stolen gun.
Excellent interview. 🎯👍
How the f*ck do you lay a murder charge on someone who retaliates with force to an AK-47 pointed at him while simultaneously trying to ban "assualt rifles" because they're such a threat to human life? ?
For the record an AK-47 and AR-15 aren't assault rifles. They aren't even rifles. They're carbines. You can literally look up rifles vs carbines on TH-cam.
@@vsupreme9386 A real AK 47 is an assault rifle. Most Ak’s now and days are AKM’s
Not a problem in Europe! Wonder why? yeah, I know..... Gun restrictions for crazy people!
Jose Garza. Political DSA member DA who was funded by Soros. All part of the, "you should let people terrorize you as long as we, the status quo seems it acceptable, and you will bend over and say 'thank you sir can I have another.'" If you look on that case, an assistant DA resinged in protest because Garza withheld evidence of this case to the Grand Jury to propel a charge. There was alot of inside baseball with this case.
@@savageboxing1402 I quote right from the Ak-47 wiki page Kalashnikov
"In 1944, he entered a design competition with this new 7.62×39mm, semi-automatic, gas-operated, long stroke piston carbine, strongly influenced by the American M1 Garand."
See the word Carbine in bold. The ak-47 has always been a carbine and not a rifle.
But also understand there is no such thing as an assault rifle. It's a word that doesn't have a real definition because it wasn't invented by gun people. It more of a hot phrase.
That was a great break down
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The Philly incident referenced was on South Street, and it was between two parties, a street shootout.
Note on the taser bit: no one really "resists" tasers. Old ones, maybe, since they worked more on pain compliance, but the modern ones literally turn your control over your muscles off because they attack your nerves dorectly. There's no way to fight it, regardless of drugs. Now, the reason they don't always work is because tasers require a specific set of conditions to work properly:
A) the barbs have to pierce clothing and make it into the skin. No body contact = no work
B) the barbs have to land close enough together to overcone the natural electrical resistance of the human body. If they land too far apart, they can't complete the circuit and thus no effect.
Both of those conditions HAVE to occur at the same time in order for a modern taser to work. Ian over at Forgetten Weapons has an excellent video on the subject.
Thanks for tip about FW. Will check out that video.
We love Colion! Have him on more!
9:10. This needs no evidence, it’s just true. Knowing Social Services, there always is a need unfortunately. Colion is top in my book. Love the content.
After watching this episode I became big fan of Colion Nior
I've been following him now trying to learn more from colion.
So good to see Colion Noir on your podcast! Thanks Joe!!
this is the kind of talk we need on Guns Laws
As someone who doesn't live in the USA I have no right to tell you how to set your gun laws but responsible ownership and training is a positive way forward. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
2:55 having to break something down doesn't show you how thin a line is. It could also be a really thick line and sometimes you may have to break down an edge case
Excited to have this dude back on the podcast
Speaks a lot of sense does this chap.
Guns aside, this is just an overall rational man. We need more just like him
Bot much there, "Kristy" 😂
You are awesome! I love your vids!
The comparison of "comprehensive testing" cars vs guns is strictly constitutional. There cannot be a "test" for rights, lest we assume such "qualifications" test could also be applied to such things as voting, and other similar rights.
Imagine having a test to qualify to exercise your right to free speech?
I agree there should be no test for voting (or any constitutional rights), but we’d probably be in a much better situation if people actually had to have knowledge of what they were voting for…
@@tmango78 Voting is NOT a Constitutional right. 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Tell that to all the Republicans doing everything possible to limit the voting rights of certain groups across the country.
@@WindyCity1014 like what specifically? Voter ID? Which is a more racist stand. A. Voter ID is needed to insure all citizens votes count equally. Or B. Voter ID is racist because "some" people are (to stupid) to find the DMV or have and know how to use the internet to obtain IDs accepted to vote?
Sorry, voter ID is used in nearly every country,... so how do feel this is a problem for "some" citizens? If that is your belief.