A Quick Guide to the 8th Doctor on Big finish
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ส.ค. 2024
- The 8th doctor; often thought of as the one who never got an era, and looked over for that fact, actually has the longest running era out of all of them. Paul McGann has played the part for nearly 30 years, and hes the most interesting incarnation in the franchise.
Only thing is, he only has 2 on screen appearances. A tv movie that flopped and an 8 minute short. Join me as i tell you what he got up to in between.
This is an intro to a series where i go indepth, and review each episode of the 8th doctor on big finish. - บันเทิง
I do adore that in the first episode of Stranded certainly written and recorded long before release, the Doctor literally says, "How bad could 2020 get?".
The War Doctor describing 8's ultimately hopeless efforts to avoid the war are heart-breaking, to say the least. Heh.
Given the scale of the conflict and the sheer amount of needless but preventable suffering there came a point wjere sitting it out stopped being mortally righteous and became morally abhorrent. Like watching a genocide play out when you have the power to stop it, patting yourself on the back because you saved a few people here and there and doing nothing to confront the people doing the genocide.
@@thatDamnAusWhoFan Very deep indeed.
as a devoted 8th doctor from right out the gate. or the autopsy walk in chill box. Paul McGann is a delight in the role and as someone who has never every story of his on CD (I'll one day get the books but that would involve a upgrade in living space) story order, and timeline is my jam, my timelord jam.
Autopsy walk in a chill box!🤣I love it. Why wasnt the tv movie set on halloween? that would have improved the story immensely. ALso time lord jam is brilliant. it's great on toast.
@thatDamnAusWhoFan apparently this new Dr is inspired by the 8th Dr and "more intune with time itself" ....I believe this and Mrs Flood have a connection
As I've gotten older I've realized that Eccleston, for performance and characterization, is and always will be my doctor.
That being said, the TV movie was the first thing I ever watched of Doctor Who (people in my highschool and also tumblr were fans back in 2012, so I decided to get into the franchise. I decided instead of starting with classic who or new who, I'd start in between and see how I feel about it.
I love it. Paul McGann hooked me.
If anyone feels overwhelmed by how much Eight content there is from BF, Dark Eyes 1 is self-contained and works as a suitable transition point from him to Nine, both because his new look is clearlyforeshadowing Eccleston's and because you can see the ramp-up of conflict with the Daleks into the Time War. It's also the furthest they'd gotten when The Night of the Doctor was written, so it's the latest audio adventure he acknowledges.
I think the price of these things can be the most daunting thing for some so the problem with the box sets is the cost of entry. A lot of this era is available for free on spotify, including the 8th doctor adventures, and theure not that expensive to buy even when you factor in the per episode cost, which is why I say start start at the beginning of the Lucy arc. I wasn't interested in the box sets until I got through the 8th doctor adventures.
@@thatDamnAusWhoFan Just to clarify my previous statement, I'd recommend Dark Eyes 1 as a potential endcap, not as a starting place. Blood of the Daleks is probably the best starter.
@@natsmith303 yeah I love the Charlie arc and I will defend it till my death, but I heavily advise against it for first timers mostly because of Zagreus. It just so experimental and bat shot insane I don't thing new comers to the medium could listen to it without losing their sanity
@@thatDamnAusWhoFanI really disagree. As someone who just got into big finish about a year ago, I decided to start from the beginning with Storm Warning as well. I found it a little rocky adjusting to the audio medium, but I definitely got the hang of it by the time the story was over. Telling someone to start at Blood of the Daleks to me is like telling someone to skip series one, it doesn't work, you need the trauma of Charley and C'rizz for 8 to work later on, not to mention it is a damn good era, I didn't feel lost once and it's probably my favorite of the 3 I've listened to (just finished Dark Eyes). You'd also be missing at least 4 of the greatest doctor who stories ever imo. Maybe that's just me though, as the Lucie era is still almost as good, although I think it drops off at a certain point before picking back up in the end. McGann is firmly my 2nd favorite doctor behind only Troughton because of the audios, and I liked him in the movie already. I can't recommend enough that people give his start in big finish a shot before skipping ahead.
I’ve recently got into the 8th doctor Big Finish Audios!!! Absolutely love them! Zagreus is my favorite as of yet! Paul McGann is just amazing and speaking for so many, totally deserves a full series!
What concerns me about giving him a series is that they might decanonise his audios more than they already have. We lost the Mary Shelly trilogy. We don't need to lose more
bruh... I've been lookin for eighth-doc content and your channel leans towards him more than anyone else. Love it
ok updating this comment because this video was even better than anticipated AND I'm absolutely blown away by not only your eighth-doc sonic but also your ability to create it... you'd make a capable companion
That was just the mark 1. I made a tutorial video for the new one
New to Big Finish absolutely enjoying it for 8th Doctor
Love the note of the war doctor at the end Tor the video
Its such a good monologue, and sums it up so well. I couldnt help but put it in
When it comes to 8, if he and 7 switched they would probably have been better off, 8 could have had adventures while the manipulator and chess master could have prepared for the time war and to get more involved before it started.
Would love to see this for other Doctor's for Big Finish runs. It's nice having a overview of the whole run to find a starting points and explore points of interest. From this video I listened to Blood Of The Daleks today as my first Audio drama and really loved it. thank you for all ur stuff!! Can't wait to jump back into Who!
Also I really have a huge interest in the 8th Doctor and am looking forward to your reviews of his stuff in the future
Thank you. Now you mention it I am planning on doing some videos for the 6th doctor. He got such a raw deal on the show and big finish did so much to make up for it, giving him stories that really played to Collins strengths and cementing him as my absolute favourite out of all of them when originally I hated him.
@@thatDamnAusWhoFan I think tv six was great tbh. His episodes weren't great a lot of the time, but the 6th doctor himself was always the best thing about them, with twin dilemma being the only one where I disliked him.
Big finishes take on the character is fantastic, and I adore the directions they take him, but I don't think they "fixed" the 6th doctors character because it was only ever broken in his introduction. They just gave him generally better stories to be part of.
@@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 when I say fixed I mean they depict him as someone who isn't emotionally abusive all the time. I like his tv appearances as well but sometimes the way he talks to Peri makes it really difficult to watch. There's moments where they get on but then theres a few life threatening situations where he's taunting and belittling her when, it's just something I can't see the doctor doing even on a bad day
You pity all the Doctors in some shape or form but man, watching this ball of sunshine being dragged through hell and back is one of the most heart-wrenching arcs in the entirety of the DW franchise.
I think its worth noting that big finish runs a lot of sales and the 8th doctor boxes sets are often included. So if you’re interested be patient and it will save you some money.
Thanks for this! I recently discovered BF trying to satisfy my craving for Time War content. There is so much and I would need a second job to afford all of it.
Late comment I know but incredible video! Editing, writing, humor, and everything else was on point! I love how everything was expanded upon just enough that you can get a good explanation going but wasn't kept around too long that it was unwelcome; everything was concise and enjoyable. Looking forward to consuming the rest of the content on your channel!
Thanks so much. This one was fun to do. Looking forward to getting back to this series
Making my way through the 8th Doctor Audios, this video helped a lot!! Awesome work!
Okay but as a fellow Aussie I highly appreciate your channel. Love you
Thanks for the comment love you too
This was so helpful and interesting! I’ve watched all of New Who and a significant amount of Classic Who too but I’ve never really gotten around to get into the stories of the 8th Doctor even tho everything I’ve seen of him has been brilliant! This gave me a great idea how to start, so thanks! :D Also if you’re still up to showing us how you made that sonic screwdriver, I’d love to see it! It looks dope!
Sweet video! I always wanted to see more of 8.
Hope you do the war doctor someday really enjoyed this video
Great guide hope you do more
I came to the BF 8th Doctor audios due to Nicola Walker (having been a long time fan). I’d seen the tv movie back in the day but he hadn’t really solidified as a favourite until Doom Coalition. Went back and listened to Dark Eyes after DC. At first I thought McQueen’s Master was Jacobi’s Master as tonally very similarly theatrically over the top at times. I now have all of EDA from Dark Eyes up to Connections. ‘Albie’s Angels’ by Roy Gill is a fabulous character development continuation for Helen from Gill’s Stranded 2 ‘UNIT Dating’. Also have a few of Eight’s Short Trips stories and a couple Charlie Pollard & Lucie Miller stories.
Btw EDA, Paternoster Gang, UNIT (Kate Stewart’s UNIT), Torchwood, and a few other bits & bobs, Big Finish has taken a lot out of my bank account in the past 8-10 years or so. 😂
Albie's angels legitimately made me cry. I'm glad they followed up on it and gave him a happy ending. Love that they ended up with Lightfoot.
I love this incarnation of the doctor in fact he’s my favourite my 2 favourite eras for him are the the Charley era and the dark eyes era
Dark eyes was brilliant but very expensive. I'm not a huge fan of box sets as a format. It'd be great if you could buy them individually but just selling them all in one lot is far too expensive and daunting for most people.
I love Stranded as well. It's the Doctor at his most human. He's so lost, but with the help of his companions, he finds his way back again. And the ensemble cast is terrific.
@@thatDamnAusWhoFanThe trick is to preorder them befor release. They are significantly discounted. I also wait for sales. Even so, I do agree a big chunk of my salary goes to the box sets...
I just finished the first four stories with Charley and I'm hooked. I can't wait to get through the rest of them. I like both number 8 and Charley. I can't wait to meet the other companions. I'm really grateful for Spotify.
So, let me get this straight: Star Trek, Ghostbusters, Batman, TMNT, Star Wars ALL have multiple animated shows. Doctor Who does not have an animated series despite McGann having recorded HUNDREDS of hours of audios without them being animated.
Here's an idea: *DOCTOR WHO: THE LOST ADVENTURES - An Animated Series*
YESS!!!!!
The 8th Doctor is my Doctor. I love him to bits.
I really hope we get an animated show adapting the audio dramas!
Me too but only for some audios. A lot of the aidios play to the strengths of the medium. A story set in complete darkness, or in a universe far too strange for our senses to comprehend for example. I wouldnt want to see visuals for zagreus of most fo the time war content for example, there's just no way to do it justice
Theres also this thing ive noticed with the animated reconstructions is that if you add visuals it can change the feel of a story. Like when I first listened to fury from the deep with the naration its hard to describe the sense of creeping dread it can induce, like thes tendrils of cold damp seaweed slowly wrapping themselves around the narritive. Then I saw the animation and its decent enough animation but its just not the same now
@@thatDamnAusWhoFanYeah, the one where they were in the alternate universe where there was only sound and they were blind most of the time so could only rely on hearing and touch, and he and Charlie had to flay and eat a raw dead body every day to stay alive...and then they merged and Eight didn't want to unmerge because he finally felt like he had a companion that couldn't leave him... that stuff was crazy! And I was there for it! One of the best experimental (heavy on the mental) stories ever! And Eight was morose and cruel and Charlie boxes his ears, metaphorically speaking. And they argue about if he loves her or not and he finally admits his very conflicted feelings for her after verbally tearing her a new one...I mean, dang! I had to listen multiple times cuz I couldn't get over how amazing and crazy and even sexy it was...in AUDIO. You just can't do that one visually. Scherzo, I believe it was. You need to have listened to a lot of their stories first before you tackle that one, because they address a lot of things that went unsaid about their relationship in it. The only sad thing about it is that they never follow up with what happened in any of the subsequent stories. I would have loved to see how their relationship would have changed based on that episode.
American here, I love the 8th doctor, I actually saw the movie when it aired at the end of it, I was very confused and had no idea what it was as a kid? Years later find the reboot on the sci-fi channel. Start to get into the show look into old doctors find the tv movie on dvd at a book store mind is blown, I always thought that movie was a fever dream. After that I got into the audios and did the same thing as you with Zagreus and wow that was information overload I knew nothing of the classic doctors at the time. What I’m trying to say is sorry I didn’t watch the tv movie from start to end when it aired on multiple tvs.
The last part before the conclusion makes me truly, truly sad and it's not easy for me to feel that way. My baby Eight has been forced to become a man. He's so complex and it's sad lot of people barely know what he'd been through.
I agree that he's the most interesting Doctor as I dig deeper into Doctor Who EU recently.
I just finished Chimes of Midnight. I didn't plan to listen to all 8DAs (I have poor English listening skills so I need to do absolutely nothing or I'll lost what I've been listening) but this video I made me re-consider it because of how great this Doctor is. Great video by the way
Thanks it means a lot. I hope I'm comprehensible in this. People have told me I tend to slur in my videos but really it's just my accent. The national currency of Australia used to be rum what else do people expect?
That eulogy scene was too perfect not to put in. War perfectly summed up the 8th doctor. Hes so full of hope. Its one of this greatest assets. He never gives up and always wants to see the nest in people. But hes also incredibly foolish. Giving people who don't deserve it chance after chance only for them to continually betray him or let him down. Thinking he could go on being the passifist adventurer, the dashing hero. Going off having happy go lucky adventures with pretty assistants, where he is admired and praised for saving the day, while everything burns around him and he does nothing to put out the flames before they spread.
@@thatDamnAusWhoFan yup it's pretty comprehensible. I was going to jump from Divergent arc all the way to Dark Eyes (or even Stranded) and if I did I'd damn regret missing the iconic Eight-Lucie dynamic. Thanks a bunch bcs of you I didn't skip it. The ending was painful but she was a great companion. The kind of companion I'll allow to slap the doctor multiple times and won't make me hate them. Now I'm planning to listen to all 8DAs arcs I could get. Was just starting Dark Eyes and can't wait to listen to Stranded. It seems interesting--and damn I love the covers somehow.
@@a.penguinwithcastielpfpStranded is amazing! I hope you enjoyed it!
I always thought seeing the ramp up to the time war is a lot more interesting than seeing the actual time war. The ineffable nature of it is better left to the imagination imo
I recently started into the EDAs books. And, yeah, Eighth got a lot of things happening with him.
And the continuity is the question right now
Doctor who has never had a consistent canon even in the show, and the bbc doesnt sanction a canon like other franchises. Pick and choose what you like and have fun with it. Its what I do. As far as I'm concerned, I haven't read the novels but the audios are set some time after the tv movie so there's plenty of room for novel continuity
@@thatDamnAusWhoFan Yeah, the first original novel "The Eight Doctors" is set immediately after the movie for example
Hey! Great video. Was just wondering if you could please tell me the name of the background music used at 2:50 ?
Luckily since then he got a 3rd on screen appearance
He's the Eighth Doctor - he's played by Paul McGann - and he's got multiple seasons and multiple eras stretching across decades of audio plays and... ... ... yeah, that's about as far as you can go - 'cause the eras, their continuity and their order is a *friggin mess* xD
I blame the toymaker :P
In the short story Doctor Who and the Time War by Russell T Davis. It's the eighth Doctor "who" is the War Doctor and he is the one who destroys Gallifrey
What is the song track used starting at “Stranded” up into the war doctors apology?
My Dad's from Liverpool, same as McGann, and he'd love to hear an 8th doctor story! Is there one you would recommend for first timers?
chimes of midnight is good. you could not be into doctor who and enjoy that one. Blood of the daleks is a good starter though
Thanks for this video! I just completed my 8th Doctor Figure Adventures with my 60th special “THE FOUR DOCTORS” im American, so consider it my apology 😂 but I love the classic who era and the 8th Doctor.
Thank you for this. I've been getting negative comments and some extremely homophobic comments all day after my last video.
The 8th doctor era is brilliant
@@thatDamnAusWhoFan disgusting. So sorry to hear that. I won’t go digging but should i see one in the future I’ll be sure you stick up for ya. Your content is great! Keep going!
@@thatDamnAusWhoFan happy happy who day as it’s still the 23rd by u I believe 😂
It's 4:14pm on the 24th here, but happy who day. Thanks I appreciate it
I'm gonna be the odd one out and say that I feel that the TV movie at best was an interesting base to potentially build and improve on top on. I dunno, I guess the Doctor's excited gleeful energy captivated me enough to let any flaws slide with the presumption that it would have gotten better had it spawned a series.
If nothing else, I'm sure I would have enjoyed them more than Chibnall's episodes. lol
Please do video for 8th doctor sonic screwdriver from dark eyes
Definitely going to do that at some point. A lot of replica building is trial and error though so I'm not sure how to approach the video. It's definitely in the works though
The more 8th Doctor Media I consume the more I wish he had end up as the "War Doctor" rather than having it be a seperate incarnation. On a meta level it would address the sort of Limbo State McGann's lack on time on the silver screen has caused while ending with him being acknowledged as the Doctor in a way that he honestly deserves as both the character and the actor himself. I think narratively it just works better overall for Day Of The Doctor as well as the shows future because everything they do with The War Doctor would work better if done with 8 as there is less disconnect.
It would also mean that Incarnations maintained their value for at least a little while longer. It feels like ever since the War Doctor was introduced and the 13 Limit was shattered we've been getting Dozens of weird off-shoot incarnations that are effectively wasted due to lack of use beyond a handful of stories at best.
It would make 11's Swan Song less convoluted, The Day Of The Doctor Less Messy, Give the 8th Doctor the closest he could ever really get to a proper TV Outing beyond a Movie and a Minisode (as Sadly he seems too Old to properly come back for Live Action when compared to how he looked in Night Of The Doctor) and bring more attention and love to the Audios, TV Movie and Classic Who.
Although it would deprive us of John Hurts phenomenal work as the War Doctor and Big Finish would milk the Time War to hell and back 10x more than they already have.
I would have loved to see him in the 50th but it would have been a very different special. 10 and 11 wouldn't look upon him with nearly as much shame and although narratively it is pleasing for the most passifist incarnation to go against every principle and take up arms, I hate the idea of 8 going to war.
As for his age, I think he looks fine. He could definitely still do it if they g as ve him another shot. My main fear is that a t they might decanonise even more of his audios.
Oh absolutely the man ages like Wine but if his recent cameo is a good reference point unless they do it very soon I think he'll reach a point where he just looks too different for it to fit in his existing timeline the same way the rest of the "Classic" Doctors eventually did so.
Don't get me wrong I'd never complain myself I just think it adds to the list of reasons why it wouldn't be done.
They did what?!?
Yeah it would probably have felt even more forced than if they'd done it with Eccleston.
The 8th Doctor properly being in the Time War does provoke mixed feelings for sure , I dont really blame Moffat for going the War Doctor Route. I imagine it would however be especially effective for those familiar with the TV Movie but not the Audios.
I think what it comes down to is the fact that as great as it could be, it feels like too much of a progression and range for one single Incarnation to pull off, even with an Actor as Talented as McGann.
Which is strange because the Range of 8 so far is what draws me so strongly to him. Although there are other incarnations I might currently prefer for me it feels like 8 and 12 are the two Doctors that encompass the most range of what that character is and can be.
What music did you use near the end of the video, 12:23?
I'm going to view 8th for 8 months
Theres a lot of content in big finish alone so you may been more than that. That and a small fortune
A Doctor Who series produced by Fox is a nightmare scenario.
You didn't mention company of friends, the mary shelly trilogy and shada 2 that takes place before storm warning
There's also the short trips, living legend, light at the end, solitaire, the further adventures of lucie miller, futher adventures of charlotte pollard, end of the beginning, his appearance in klein's story and survival of the fittest, his appearance in diary of river song, his appearance in susan's war and his classic doctors new monsters stories, also the 20th/25th big finish anniversary story
And after travelling with six, charley pollard had her own spin off that went for 2 series, Liv is returning in a ninth doctor story and first appeared in robophobia a seventh doctor story
also Kandyman from Happiness Patrol returned in doom coalition
The anniversary was The Legacy of Time
And I completely forgot he was in 2 war master stories/boxsets
Grace and Lee's actors returned for some companion chronicles and short trips as different characters and/or narrators
The TV Movie master returned in Ravenous 4 and Diary of River Song series 5, he got a spin off audio series of his own nearing the end of that life/body at old age, which is on it's second or third series/boxset
An alternative universe 8 appeared in a third doctor companion chronicles
He may have had an appearance or cameo in 100
There was also a special story called the four doctors where he appeared
Bonus:
There's also his destiny of the doctors story tied into the destiny of the doctor series for the 50th anniversary
There's three or four stories that tie into elements of the TV movie and fill in some plot holes, the apocalypse element, dust breeding, a story about the master either a short trip or companion chronicle may be one of the ones featuring grace and lee's actors as different characters with geoffrey beavers
The audio master appears in unit dominion and the master trilogy some good seventh doctor storues, with the master trilogy featuring a multi master story like one of the eighth doctor stories
Dark universe features the eleven and is set before doom coalition as a prequel, it features old Ace from the Season 26 bluray trailer which it continues on from and is the story that for the time being is the closest towards the The Tv Movie and at the end of the seventh doctor's timeline
There was a scrapped big finish story of a civil war between eight and seven with both coming to blows over the events of kleins story and survival of the fittest and what seven made and manipulated eight into doing, it would have featured hex and lucie having to choose sides
Survival of the fittest leads into the klein stuff in unit dominion and afterwards, there was two klein stories set before survival of the fittest, first one being colditz I'm pretty sure it featured david tennant
Big Finish and BBC used to made book short trips featuring eighth doctor stories as well, and there was also a seventh doctor one which was set during the movie or his travel to pick up the master's remains before the movie, as seven looked back upon his life while he sat reading the time machine
I love super fans. Don't worry I'm doing separate videos for most fo those. Especially the merry Shelly trilogy and Klein's story. I just don't want to complicate things too much by mentioning the further adventures, but all will get a mention.
Can you make a video on who the Eleven is, please?
Will do my lord. I'm planning on doing a video on the timelords, rassilon, and omega first though
Good video but music is way too loud :)
How is it River met the 8th Doctor but the Tenth doesn't recognise her at all?
Whe was dresses as a nun one time with a holographic wimple so she looked completely different. All other times she just erased his memory like she usually does when she hangs out with pre tennant doctors
Would love to see The Eleven in live action and why not let Mark Bonnar do it again
War Doctor would be good
theyre great. THe one i clipped is with a different voice actor, hes doing the current run of war doctor begins box sets but they also did some with john hurt. they were brilliant
War Doctor is tech the Ninth Doctor in my mind
John Hurt was british acting royalty and the 9th doctor in his first episode acts as if he's newly regenerated when he comes across a mirror in rose's flat and comments in his nose and ears.
I would have liked to see 9 come back too but John Hurt is brilliant as the war doctor and any franchise touched by his presence should be honoured.
@@thatDamnAusWhoFanWell good news! Chrissy E is coming to BF!
@@alexanderhorter1287 yeah he's done like 6 boxsets so far
I also think that the 8th Doctor should have been the war doctor. John Hurt did a great job but I think 8 would be just as good a choice. That way the 9th doctor is STILL the 9th Doctor and so on.
8 can't fight in a war. It goes against his character. He's chronically pacifistic. His life works best as a tragedy. A good man born at the wrong time, who in the effort of being a good man let's the fires of war rage on as he plays at being the dashing hero, running away and playing make believe while the universe burns.
@@thatDamnAusWhoFan that would be the tragedy of the 8th doctor. He started out just like any other but had to make those hard choices. Rather than having an entire regeneration dedicated to that role, the 8th would be the one that fought. It would also explain the long time between 1996 to 2005. He was fighting the Time War.
PLZ MAKE A SONIC TUTORIAL
Oh believe me thats in the works. Gonna go to bunnings. Gonna pick out some sprinkler fittings and some pvc pipe
How much would it cost to even listen to all of these? I listened to the first adventures with Lucy and thought it was fantastic. The whole Big Finish scene is very confusing for newcomers!
How much you got? Yeah big finish can be expensive
This video is awwwwwwwful,,,so yeah.
Ok, thanks for the feed back...
Music to loud drowning out the vocal
Thanks, I'll work on that
But what I could hear was good
@@stephengabbey8908 thanks I appreciate it. I recently got some headphones that are better for content creation so my later videos should be better in that regard
It's the music you have at the start when you talk about the 8th life it's a bit loud, much as I like David Tennant it would have been nice to see Paul Mcgann turn up instead he was never given a chance maybe next Nov we see him
What is the music that plays when talking about the tragedy of the 8th Doctors life called?
Great video! I uncursed your channel by becoming follower 667 you're welcome 😌
I personally wouldn't recommend Lucy miller , to me she is very unlikeable and for the whole of her first run she hated the Doctor. Jump in with storm warning with Charley, they maybe over 20 years old by now but these stories are great well written as a whole and great fun.
Good video but drop the god awful stock music
I wouldn't mind an 8th Doctor series. I wouldn't mind if they just erased Jodie shitaker, kept the 13 life limit and had Susan or Rhomana take over as the Doctor. Then you can have your female doctor, the lore is kept and the show can continue with the Doctor enjoying his retirement somewhere... Or come back as the Valyard but only to keep the Sixth Doctor on his toes.
There's really no need to shit on Jodie. She's great when she has better direction and better writing to work with, and she could have been an amazing doctor. At times she was. The problem was the writing and the general direction they were taking the show. Someone else taking up the mantle wouldn't work. It goes against the established lore. For one Susan isn't a time lord shes gallifreyan, she can't regenerate. Secondly, the name a timelord adopts is not just a name. It's a promise, it defines who they are and want to be. The doctor chose the doctor necause he aspired to be a healer and wise man. The masrer wants to dominate, etc... Its against time lord culture to just hand it off to someone else. Romana already has a title. We don't know what it means but thats the title she chose.
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