For the thief. I much prefer the frost or lightning daggers. Much better for those that started the game as a mage trying to switch to a melee vocation
Hot take: The cyclopean hammer is better than cinderspine. Fire can cause problems with a few enemies and dragons are strong against it. The cyclopean hammer has more knockdown too. The difference in damage doesn't mean much overall. Fighters job is to knock enemies to the ground and the whole team does more damage then. Lightning hammer for the win.
fyi the volcanic island gear you can also purchase from the dwarves; sara at bakbattahl and gutstafr at windwalkers. sara gives a 5% discount if you complete her quest iirc
I'm pretty sure the best thief weapon pre-endgame is Frosted Edges due to the permanent ice enchantment slowing and freezing enemies, plus high Strength and Magick stats in general. They also bypass a portion of physical resistance from enemies like ghosts, saurians, etc. due to being enchanted
Generally the emchanted weapons are going to be better if you have spent any amount of time on a magic class and the enemy doesn't reisist it. 30 or so more strength isnt going to outdamage another 400 magick attack and elemental damage
@nidhogg00 from what I've seen the stat differences between the weapons are muuch smaller than the gaps in DD1. Maybe if get a BBI style expac it will skew harder, but atm the difference is only like a hundred or so strength between the dragons bite and the thunder hammer. For example.
Side note: If you're playing a thief with their passive stealing core skill you actually have a chance to steal the Dead Ringer from the dragon in Melve while wailing on it. That's how I got it anyway. Thanks for the vid Cotton.
Or you can hit it three times with the ballista up on the tower and it will kill it. And then you’ll be able to loot him. You will need a pawn to help use it.
In dd1 the elemental weapons were considered weaker than the high strength weapons because an enemy's resistance would apply twice: physical and elemental resistance. It doesn't feel like that here though because it feels like the elemental weapons are super strong regardless
I wish armor had stats like dd1 with +str etc as archer or thief you take zero damage ever so armor doesn’t even matter at all. They should have added some kind of perk to the armors for it to boost a skill or something for vocations.
Correct me if I’m wrong but why is every weapon here outclassed by dragon forged weapons? And why are my Heaven’s Key Daggers stronger than what’s being shown here as the strongest daggers? Did you guys not come across these yet or is there something I’m missing?
There are sets to some pieces that you can find in other shops. There's also sets to some pieces that are in the game but you cannot find them anywhere. Purely data mined.
Dead Ringer can also be obtained during first drake fight in Melve. IF it counts I knocked him on ground and did so much damage nearly killed it before it flew away. After speaking to Sigurd for first time was next in inventory
Even if they're slightly weaker I like to have all melee characters with a permanent boon weapon. Great for targeting weaknesses and inflicting status effects. And they just look cool lol.
Good to hear. I was gonna say I wish game has a reason to fight monsters for good drops (weapons / armors) while I like that buying things is convenient but having something to look forward to while fighting monster or exploring is nice
From what I've seen none ofnthe armor I got from around was better than what he had, but some ofnthe weapons were good. Specifically the enchanted ones are generally better than what he has. His stuff is all pure strength. For the magic stuff though it seems his is best
I can confirm you can get dragons breath off of the griffin. Best I can do evidence wise is item log and screen shot of griffin in the tower as I don't screen record. Used thief pawn with pilfer
I been watching you guys since the beginning of monster hunter world, always reliable and useful information albeit with a few slip ups here and there. Keep it up boys!
How are people missing the fact that the seeker's token corset, gives you the highest defense for almost every single class? Also weapon that are good against certain enemies like the Labrynthius mace that does more damage to minotaurs, does more damage to minotaurs than post end game weapons
You do not talk to Sigurd for the Mystic Twin hand weapon, it's looted from the dragon's body, Sigurd gives you the Vocation and the Maister art if you kill the dragon in Melve.
You dont have to go to volcanic island for that gear. Just do saras quest in bakbattal so you dont have to go back and forth. Idk why he keeps telling people to go there out of their way
Likely because while Sara is closer, you have to do a long quest chain to unlock her shop. The vendor on Volcanic island is always there and easily accessible once you get there
I can confirm I got the the dragon's breath from the Dragonsbreath tower. After defeated the Griffon at it's nest I looted it from the body. I tried it out once it was mentioned and got it on the first try so can't say if it percentage based. Know it's April first and all but I'm did get it so try it out for yourself. Just let me know if you got it on your first try or not.
i know people hate when someone posts so much on a game that dropped but i love it, i watched everyone this guy posted, especially if there is a possibility of finding out i missed out on content
Some of this info is inaccurate. The best daggers in game are the "Heavens Skies" and are even more powerful then the endgame daggers. The fighters best weapon is also an enchanted weapon known as "Molten Fury". Versatility wise, the Almace comes in 2nd. It's basically the "windshear" of DD2.
Had trouble with dulled regalia sword quest. Met Roman got the sword, remember taking it to smithy in Vermund to see what they thought. Did other quests... went to complete the quest sword is gone and quest gone, even went to Ibrahim to see if he had it, but no. Quest not in completed either. Checked storage not in there either. Roman is just acting like a guard now.
I can confirm that the dragonsbreath bow drops from the griffin at dragon's breath tower. I have it on video. I got it after going back to the area after the mystic spearhand quest, don't know if there is any connection.
So the dragon shop has some better things but the armor doesn’t matter. Wear whatever you want. The game gives you metric tons of stuff to heal. And the wep in the dragon shop won’t out do a wep with elements.
Wow, can't believe even with thorough exploration of dragons breath tower, I still missed two chests. And would you believe me if I said I got Medusa's bow from my first fight with her and it was from randomly attacking her with my daggers, I have a passive snatching ability that triggers with every hit and I think it's a 2% chance and the bow is also rare
Fun fact: This best armor is NOT any of these armor he shown. The BEST ARMOR comes from chests under the sea and rivers in “UNMOORED WORLD” they are even stronger than the endgame armor.
Can you show how to get the drakescale cape it’s In drabnirs grotto on b1f at the end of the skinny pathway you need to wall jump to get up but I’ve been doing the wall jump for 3 hours there’s gotta be a way of doing it that isn’t this infuriating
Why do people keep saying the best weapons are ones that have less total damage than others? For example the framae blades for thief has 548 strength but only like 142 Magick but my frosted edges have 500 of each so wouldn't that be better?
The way the game calculates damage is HEAVILY favored on raw damage, and almost never is outclassed by anything else. Its stupid, but thats the way it worked in DD1. Also, having a mage imbue your weapons with elements on top of raw damage will do drastically more damage than using and elemental weapon on its own,.
It's not Skyrim. weapons stats are flat. you can improve it at a blacksmith... I would advise you DONT improve it in Vernworth though. it can easily get you through the first half of the game at base. get to Battahl and do the quest to unlock Dwarven smithing then improve it there.
It's really shame that the game features weapons as direct upgrades of previous ones with rare exceptions. There are so many cool looking weapons but are often completely pointless and in the end eveyone pretty much ends up with the same gear. This contributes to the feeling that there are very few weapons in the game. I wish Capcom would go the route they chosed in MH Sunbreak with all weapons having final upgrade on pair featuring different properties. The game is without doubt great and all but this is such a missed opportunity. My only hope is that they at least introduce some kind of transmog system in the future.
I dont feel like the dragonforged vendor gear is much more powerful than the other endgame vendors' gear, if at all. And besides a few sets, the vendors' gear looks better than the dragonforged's gear (that thief gear is hideous).
best thief armor is whatever you can get the least amount of weight on anyways, Thief gaters and thief hood with elven enhancement work the entire game for me due to its low weight and decent looks. Everything else you can mix and match just make sure you keep your weight very light.
Saw another video on dragons dogma of another TH-camr saying they are talking too slow and to just get to the point. Damned if you do and damned if you don’t
Legion's Might really doesn't hold a lot of water in DD2. In DD1 it was a fantastic staff cause pawns (and Arisen) are Squishier, so having a free ress staff there is quite nice, but then again, unlike DD2, ressing a pawn is instant, so honestly, Legion's Might is pretty sh*t unless you get it Really early for DD2...which is unlikely unless you're a scummy Guide user from the get go.
Sick thing is, im not trying activly to 100% this game but im trying real hard to try and find everything manually by searching every inch of the map and im at like 25 seekers tokens, that staff is 180...wtf? :)
All of these videos are so wrong it's funny. There is a real end game for dd2 that unlocks all of the best endgame weapons, both ones you buy and from the dragonforged. And only for the archer is the bow you buy better than the one you get from the dragonforged.
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For the thief. I much prefer the frost or lightning daggers. Much better for those that started the game as a mage trying to switch to a melee vocation
Can confirm Dragons Breath for Magick Archer has a chance to drop from the Griffin in the tower. Had one drop for me..after buying it.
That’s their style. The personality style is spastic gamers. It irks me sometimes too but they make good content
You can gift it to a friend playing the game lol
Hot take: The cyclopean hammer is better than cinderspine. Fire can cause problems with a few enemies and dragons are strong against it. The cyclopean hammer has more knockdown too. The difference in damage doesn't mean much overall. Fighters job is to knock enemies to the ground and the whole team does more damage then. Lightning hammer for the win.
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I can confirm Dragons Breath drops from the Griffin.
yup, i got it first time so idk if it's rare
I got it today too
And not just the one in Dragonsbreath Tower. I got mine from the griffon in Drabnir's Grotto.
@@Sigel77 Well Hey Nice to see when I fought the griffin in the grotto it yeated off the edge of the cliff after it died. 😢😢😂😂
another confirm, it drops Dragon's Breath
fyi the volcanic island gear you can also purchase from the dwarves; sara at bakbattahl and gutstafr at windwalkers.
sara gives a 5% discount if you complete her quest iirc
I'm pretty sure the best thief weapon pre-endgame is Frosted Edges due to the permanent ice enchantment slowing and freezing enemies, plus high Strength and Magick stats in general. They also bypass a portion of physical resistance from enemies like ghosts, saurians, etc. due to being enchanted
The best weapon is all the stuff in the wyrmlife shop
U can also get that fighter sword from killing dullahans, 2% drop chance
Generally the emchanted weapons are going to be better if you have spent any amount of time on a magic class and the enemy doesn't reisist it. 30 or so more strength isnt going to outdamage another 400 magick attack and elemental damage
This isn't true if the calculations are the same as dd1
@nidhogg00 especially if you have abcaster using affinity
@@PatThomson89 in dd1 stat geowth was easy to skew, and if you want to run a mage just for boons then go ahead it'll defintely be better then
@nidhogg00 from what I've seen the stat differences between the weapons are muuch smaller than the gaps in DD1. Maybe if get a BBI style expac it will skew harder, but atm the difference is only like a hundred or so strength between the dragons bite and the thunder hammer. For example.
@@feircy raw damage is better than half plus elemental,
Side note: If you're playing a thief with their passive stealing core skill you actually have a chance to steal the Dead Ringer from the dragon in Melve while wailing on it. That's how I got it anyway. Thanks for the vid Cotton.
its josh who made this video
SO THATS HOW I GOT IT!
Was about to say this. I got it from the Dragon in Melve also by wailing away on it with carve without killing it.
Or you can hit it three times with the ballista up on the tower and it will kill it. And then you’ll be able to loot him. You will need a pawn to help use it.
ohhhh! thts how i got it. when he said the only ways to get it is to buy it or kill for it i was like.....i did neither...howd i get it?
You mentioned all the Magic Bows except the best one. The Ice Bow the elves sell is insane since the main skill you use is the ice one.
In dd1 the elemental weapons were considered weaker than the high strength weapons because an enemy's resistance would apply twice: physical and elemental resistance. It doesn't feel like that here though because it feels like the elemental weapons are super strong regardless
You can also steal the Dead Ringer from the blister drake in Melve if you're a thief :)
I wish armor had stats like dd1 with +str etc as archer or thief you take zero damage ever so armor doesn’t even matter at all. They should have added some kind of perk to the armors for it to boost a skill or something for vocations.
I run the Dowsing Spikes everywhere I go, the slight damage difference is trivial in comparison to knowing the location of hidden chests.
The Dowsing Spikes also have more Knockdown Power than the daggers sold in the Volcanic Camp, which adds to its case
@@jacchann I jacked mine up with Dwarven smithing for that exact reason.
If i were devious DD2 dev i would hide secret smithy enhancement synthesis combinations. :)
Can confirm the huge pigeon (griffin) at dragons tower does indeed drop it. How i got mine to my surprise
I prefer the ice enchanted magic bow because it frequently freezes things which leads to free damage and can often extend a boss's down time.
Correct me if I’m wrong but why is every weapon here outclassed by dragon forged weapons? And why are my Heaven’s Key Daggers stronger than what’s being shown here as the strongest daggers? Did you guys not come across these yet or is there something I’m missing?
Because it is and also rewatch the first minute of the video he talking about them being the best in endgame
I’ve gotta hear this guy give a presentation 💀
actually the best bow in the game come from a normal vendor and its hydra husk, also you can only buy it in the unmoored world
Your guys' thumbnails are so enticing. Whoever is sitting at their computer doing them, is doing a fine job with them.
I was wondering about this; thanks for the guide!
Siocadh with that 140% ice buildup, beautiful!
I can also confirm the Dragon's Breath bow drops from griffin just blew my mind
There are sets to some pieces that you can find in other shops. There's also sets to some pieces that are in the game but you cannot find them anywhere. Purely data mined.
Dead Ringer can also be obtained during first drake fight in Melve. IF it counts I knocked him on ground and did so much damage nearly killed it before it flew away. After speaking to Sigurd for first time was next in inventory
Patiently waiting for the best endgame weapons
Even if they're slightly weaker I like to have all melee characters with a permanent boon weapon. Great for targeting weaknesses and inflicting status effects. And they just look cool lol.
There’s actually better gear than the dragon forged vendor hidden in the unmoored world. Good luck finding it ;)
Good to hear. I was gonna say I wish game has a reason to fight monsters for good drops (weapons / armors) while I like that buying things is convenient but having something to look forward to while fighting monster or exploring is nice
@@jungchoothian2039you still buy them, but with the wyvern crystals
From what I've seen none ofnthe armor I got from around was better than what he had, but some ofnthe weapons were good. Specifically the enchanted ones are generally better than what he has. His stuff is all pure strength. For the magic stuff though it seems his is best
@@jungchoothian2039yeah there’s monsters that drop gear in the unmoored world and new chests in areas where water once was
Bro really? How do I find it?
I can confirm you can get dragons breath off of the griffin. Best I can do evidence wise is item log and screen shot of griffin in the tower as I don't screen record. Used thief pawn with pilfer
I been watching you guys since the beginning of monster hunter world, always reliable and useful information albeit with a few slip ups here and there.
Keep it up boys!
Heavens key is definitely the best for thief
How are people missing the fact that the seeker's token corset, gives you the highest defense for almost every single class? Also weapon that are good against certain enemies like the Labrynthius mace that does more damage to minotaurs, does more damage to minotaurs than post end game weapons
You do not talk to Sigurd for the Mystic Twin hand weapon, it's looted from the dragon's body, Sigurd gives you the Vocation and the Maister art if you kill the dragon in Melve.
i got the dragons bow for the magic archer from the griffin at the top of the tower as well, right after I bought it...
You dont have to go to volcanic island for that gear. Just do saras quest in bakbattal so you dont have to go back and forth. Idk why he keeps telling people to go there out of their way
Likely because while Sara is closer, you have to do a long quest chain to unlock her shop. The vendor on Volcanic island is always there and easily accessible once you get there
ya, i got to the vendor about 30 hours before i even got to vernworth palace.
Sara also doubles as a dwarves smith type as well after the quest
Im planning to play this soon and im glad that you make video for this game❤
I can confirm that the Griffin Drops the Magic bow 👍
good stuff, thanks for time stamp :D
I just killed the Griffen is Dragon's Breath tower after watching this and did in fact get the Dragon's Breath Magic Archer bow.
I can confirm I got the the dragon's breath from the Dragonsbreath tower. After defeated the Griffon at it's nest I looted it from the body. I tried it out once it was mentioned and got it on the first try so can't say if it percentage based. Know it's April first and all but I'm did get it so try it out for yourself. Just let me know if you got it on your first try or not.
i know people hate when someone posts so much on a game that dropped but i love it, i watched everyone this guy posted, especially if there is a possibility of finding out i missed out on content
Framae Blades?? I thought the frosted edges were the best pre end game due to the magic damage they provide?
Yes they are, and it's not even close, especially if you have any decent amount of magic.
Some of this info is inaccurate. The best daggers in game are the "Heavens Skies" and are even more powerful then the endgame daggers. The fighters best weapon is also an enchanted weapon known as "Molten Fury". Versatility wise, the Almace comes in 2nd. It's basically the "windshear" of DD2.
Awsome guide thanks could you do armor as well there’s no quides for the best armor options for each vocation
Had trouble with dulled regalia sword quest. Met Roman got the sword, remember taking it to smithy in Vermund to see what they thought. Did other quests... went to complete the quest sword is gone and quest gone, even went to Ibrahim to see if he had it, but no. Quest not in completed either. Checked storage not in there either. Roman is just acting like a guard now.
I can confirm that the dragonsbreath bow drops from the griffin at dragon's breath tower. I have it on video. I got it after going back to the area after the mystic spearhand quest, don't know if there is any connection.
The Normal Merchant endgame daggers are much better than the daggers that the Dragon forged sells.
So the dragon shop has some better things but the armor doesn’t matter. Wear whatever you want. The game gives you metric tons of stuff to heal. And the wep in the dragon shop won’t out do a wep with elements.
I got the dead ringer at the beginning of the game. Didn't even kill the dragon at Melve. It dropped about half way through the fight.
You can steal the dead ringer from the dragon in Melve as well i think
Wow, can't believe even with thorough exploration of dragons breath tower, I still missed two chests. And would you believe me if I said I got Medusa's bow from my first fight with her and it was from randomly attacking her with my daggers, I have a passive snatching ability that triggers with every hit and I think it's a 2% chance and the bow is also rare
I wish there was more good armor that doesnt cover your character's face. Luckily there are headpieces that are good enough
Do u guys think the spear vocation in better than the warrior?
There’s a new game plus?
The only thing with Dragons Breath is you need eldricite to upgrade it which you can only get post game
Just hire a pawn that gives it as a reward then make forgeries like I did
Fun fact: This best armor is NOT any of these armor he shown. The BEST ARMOR comes from chests under the sea and rivers in “UNMOORED WORLD” they are even stronger than the endgame armor.
From what I saw they didnt seem any better than what dragonforged had. Ive gotten a bunch of them and they all seemed comparable or worse
@@feircy they are better. and all of the weapons are substantially better as well
@FlashesSoccer011 which ones and where. Ive wandered around the whole map basically and haven't seen anything really beating out what dragonforged has
"Dragon's Dogma 2 - Get THIS Now - True MOST POWERFUL Weapon in Game For EVERY Vocation - Best Guide!"
You missed a few
They missed all of them. There is an entire set of weapons and armor unlocked later on that outclasses everything in the game.
@@FlashesSoccer011 he literally says that at the start, this is meant to be before end game, Gees you guys don't pay attention
The Heaven's key is a better dagger than the Dragon's Vein
I got the Dead Ringer after fending off the dragon from Melve.
Does anyone know how to unlock the frost dual spear for spearhand?
Why you stabbing it, slashing it deals damage faster
Dragons Wit is the Best sorcerer staff
He got every single weapon on this list wrong. He has no clue what he is talking about.
@@FlashesSoccer011 Ikr need to stop pumping out videos with misinformation
Holy daggers are def the best for thief 💀
I found out on the wiki dullahans have a 2% drop rate for the stalwart sword
I just found the cinderspine weapon in the mountain base cave on the volcanic islands
U can also use the thief to steal the dead ringer for u
Fighter stole the shield from us magic knights
Best thief weapon are the holy daggers but I never use it coz it makes the game too easy which is boring.
I never bought dragons breath and it was in my inventory after I started ng+ I’m not sure where I got it from
Can you show how to get the drakescale cape it’s In drabnirs grotto on b1f at the end of the skinny pathway you need to wall jump to get up but I’ve been doing the wall jump for 3 hours there’s gotta be a way of doing it that isn’t this infuriating
Use a harpy smoke lure from the harpy ledge elsewhere in the cave. Or jump and hover with a mage/sorc over to the ledge from the same harpy ledge.
Why do people keep saying the best weapons are ones that have less total damage than others? For example the framae blades for thief has 548 strength but only like 142 Magick but my frosted edges have 500 of each so wouldn't that be better?
The way the game calculates damage is HEAVILY favored on raw damage, and almost never is outclassed by anything else. Its stupid, but thats the way it worked in DD1.
Also, having a mage imbue your weapons with elements on top of raw damage will do drastically more damage than using and elemental weapon on its own,.
Is this your first video game? No game ever works like that.
I didnt get to kill the lesser dragon but i stole the dead ringer off of him by being a thief its kinda nuts. Best class for farming 😂
The best armour?
Does it matter what level you get these items at? Do they level with you besides obviously doing upgrades.
No, level doesn't matter
Shouldn't matter what level you're at. Upgrades (as far as I know) are the only way to make weapons stronger outside of leveling up your character.
The medusa bow drain more stamina from skills too
He said that
Pinch of salt is the phrase
Frosted Blades are significantly better for Thief
Cool I have them all except the trickster
Bro you having your character at very heavy irritates me for some reason😂
Frosted Edges daggers say Hi
So I have the dead ringer at a very low level, can I level It’s stats as I progress?
It's not Skyrim. weapons stats are flat. you can improve it at a blacksmith... I would advise you DONT improve it in Vernworth though. it can easily get you through the first half of the game at base. get to Battahl and do the quest to unlock Dwarven smithing then improve it there.
I hate how time gated the unmoor world is :(
I had the masuda head but it went rotten in my inventory smh. Can I get another?
Yes, cut her head off again after respawn
It's really shame that the game features weapons as direct upgrades of previous ones with rare exceptions. There are so many cool looking weapons but are often completely pointless and in the end eveyone pretty much ends up with the same gear. This contributes to the feeling that there are very few weapons in the game. I wish Capcom would go the route they chosed in MH Sunbreak with all weapons having final upgrade on pair featuring different properties. The game is without doubt great and all but this is such a missed opportunity. My only hope is that they at least introduce some kind of transmog system in the future.
The cow is dry bro you cant milk it anymore you content mill
I dont feel like the dragonforged vendor gear is much more powerful than the other endgame vendors' gear, if at all. And besides a few sets, the vendors' gear looks better than the dragonforged's gear (that thief gear is hideous).
best thief armor is whatever you can get the least amount of weight on anyways, Thief gaters and thief hood with elven enhancement work the entire game for me due to its low weight and decent looks. Everything else you can mix and match just make sure you keep your weight very light.
Bro why does this guy always talk like he's on a time limit, thus leaving out more details. Slow down
he Speaks faster than someone with ADHD
Pfft just listen faster
Saw another video on dragons dogma of another TH-camr saying they are talking too slow and to just get to the point. Damned if you do and damned if you don’t
Probably because some comments tell him he’s speaking to slow so he probably just talks fast to get to the point
cant please everybody my boy if you dont like the way he speak go to another video instead of hating in the comments 🤷🏾♂️
thief weapon really? the best one is the one that give you holy enchantment that weapon is the strongest
Thank you
for my thief i found better armor and some weapons that weren't from that dragon vendor.
question what is end game plus? people keep talking about? lol
Aurora bow is the best
Legion's Might really doesn't hold a lot of water in DD2.
In DD1 it was a fantastic staff cause pawns (and Arisen) are Squishier, so having a free ress staff there is quite nice, but then again, unlike DD2, ressing a pawn is instant, so honestly, Legion's Might is pretty sh*t unless you get it Really early for DD2...which is unlikely unless you're a scummy Guide user from the get go.
Sick thing is, im not trying activly to 100% this game but im trying real hard to try and find everything manually by searching every inch of the map and im at like 25 seekers tokens, that staff is 180...wtf? :)
Why tho just get the seeker augment detection
All of these videos are so wrong it's funny. There is a real end game for dd2 that unlocks all of the best endgame weapons, both ones you buy and from the dragonforged. And only for the archer is the bow you buy better than the one you get from the dragonforged.
i just killed the griffon in dragons breath and It did drop
Im a bit disappointed that the best loot is just purchasable from vendors. Wheres my ultimate weapon quests
Best Guide!
wtf is this online shopping?