Again this is why I don’t have a whatnot account anymore. Never got scammed but thanks to you I deleted my account. I can’t believe people still buy on whatnot.
I'm convinced most of the sellers on there aren't doing great financially, they probably picked up breaking as a way to make money. They probably ended up taking loses and found it's harder to move product at a profit after fees, shipping, and running giveaways to boost their presence in the algorithm. So predictably these streamers are likely flight risks to the platform or at the very least scamming. If they pull something that they'll be able to break even on, or feel that it'll put them in the green and they can get out of breaking, they'll probably do it. Better off going with trusted sellers, but even then... There's still tons of schemes, like if you pull a card with good centering they'll send you one with bad centering or with more white specs. There are some good sellers on Whatnot, but generally no. Generally if there's an exploit to squeeze more money out of the stream, it's an avenue they'll take.
Even if he didn't steal the box. Breaker trying to jam that 100pt patch auto in a regular sleeve is laughable. He literally just devalued that thing astronomically if the buyer wanted to grade it.
Problem with Whatnot is they used to be super selective with sellers. They actually used to reject people from selling. Now they let anyone sell as long as you do a one time Zoom training.
It’s good you get your facts straight bc a lot of ppl accuse but have nothing to show. Thanks for saving ppl’s time and energy this stuff SHOULDNT happen
would this not be considered theft? you purchased from the buyer and you have proof that the money went thru. the person steals the items you purchased.. thats theft. Depending on the value then it might be felony or misdemeanor. whatnot should have the information of the seller and they should work with police to prosecute them. im not 100% but thats how i would treat it as. if not then whatnot is responsible for all the damages from their sellers since its their platform their selling thru and they receive money from these sellers. just waiting for either a lawsuit or an investigation on this company....
You're correct. A streamer had a "bounty" for the infamous evolving skies moonbreon. If you pull that card, you take it and the bounty which was $1500 worth of pokemon merchandise so the card raw upgraded is like $500 + THE $1500 BOUNTY. SO $2000. Theft over $1000 in my country the USA. Is a felony. Grand larceny. So stealing something worth $2000 in the USA is a felony. On whatnot it was a 7 day ban and a refund. This needs fixed BADLY. ON ALL PLATFORMS.
@@Kath_astrophe i mean you could argue that the refund does not meet the value of the item, in small claims court. since the item you purchased was a sealed pack of cards at that point its your item, you decide the let the seller open that pack of cards. this is a service the seller provides at no cost, so when he opened it and found a very expensive item inside. Then even with the refund, it is considered theft as the seller did not know the value inside prior to the sale. because the refund only applies to a sealed pack of cards, not an opened pack. thats my opinion but until somebody sues or files a report we will never know. ( its the same if lets say i get a sealed pack, open it find nothing inside and demand a refund. )
Its very hard to find good sellers in Australia, i had a guy i use to buy from $500+aus Big bundles of stuff every week - then one day i picked it up and all my 151 poster boxes were resealed with glue gun also not even reasealed properly … havent been back since
Straight up, lie! I sell on Whatnot, and if the payment doesn't go through, you can't cancel an order because it's not considered an order at all. It won't even show up at the end of the show.
It is in fact stolen goods you can take them to court. That being said not all what not sellers are bad. I purchased from a few that are really good and have only run into one bad one so far. They also started a mandatory training you have to go through, before you are allowed to sell on there.
Rattle you are so right. If whatnot did the right thing and vetted sellers and gave no 2nd chances to bad actors, they could grow and make more money than they do now by taking fees from scammers. If they were a trusted source than more people would join and buy stuff. Whats up what not?
The fact people over pay for OTHER people to open their cards alone should be illegal. Blows my mind. I get breaks and all. These rip and ships though? Order the damn packs and rip them. Blows my mind.
This is a great take, there are very few sellers on the app with decent morals and business models. Sadly not many good ones get the same traffic as the dazzlers, spinny boys, and hand tattoo SB lovers.. Open packs with friends!
I've bought coins.. not from those dumb wheels or gambling streams but just from sellers. Have had good luck. I always tell people, Whatnot is the wild west of auctions, and to be careful.
I made a whatnot account..Then I deleted it as soon as I watched a few sellers ripping people off..overpricing average silver coins you can buy anywhere for way cheaper ... Whatnot is for people with toooo much money and dont know how to spend it !!!
This literally makes me scared to get into breaks because I’m so paranoid people like this ruin it for everyone. I’m going to a card fair this weekend (I’m in Melbourne Australia) which has 7 Whatnot Staff flying over and I have some QUESTIONS for them, I’ll tell you that much 😂
How do you vet sellers in this situation? Walmart and amazon both vet sellers but scammers still occur so not sure you can actually prevent this type of thing. Anyways the values seemed off when looking at comps. Not trying to defend the scammer, just pointing out he did this over 100$? Brooks recently went for 51, Herbert went 199 a few weeks ago...That value doesnt even cover the box let alone the fees/shipping on selling the cards. Guess he didn't have much of a reputation to begin with.
Lol it’s called a Rip. They aren’t usually a scammer. This is one of thousands of sellers doing this. Whatnot Has removed him and compensated the buyer for market value of the cards hit. That was conveniently left out here. Search bigdogsportsbreaks and you will see, he was removed for violations.
Hey @dagoth-ur69 then explain those very basic & direct questions? You didn't think this through. It's very obvious. Everything was in your control, before, during and after. Nice box though eh.
WhatNot is shit anyway. I got free £10 to spend and you need a bank card.. to spend any.. False hope trying to get something I want. Scammers just make it worse. I hope it gets shut down
Imagine buying a lottery ticket and winning the big money and you go to turn it in and they throw you the price of the original ticket(after taking it from you), all the while kicking you out of lottery headquarters. The ultimate smack in the face is later finding out on T.V that someone high up/owner in the lottery company somehow legally cashed in the winning numbers. If many people were affected by this it would be a pitchfork/torch party night at Lottery Inc LMFAO!
I don't understand what the point is of buying a box from someone for them to open it for you??? Why not just buy the box yourself and open it yourself..
Always blows my mind that people watch streams and have them open packs for them hahaha like what’s the point?? Pulling the card is the best part!! I don’t get people man. Haha
He sounds like he's ripped from weed or from doing something that makes you nod out lol. Anyone that's just a regular kind of tired would definitely be awake in a second. 😆🤥😶🌫️🤯🤤🙂↕️
I still don’t get this platform in general. Like why get someone you don’t know and has zero credibility, to open your products. It’s literally stupid, open your own stuff. Hell pay a family member to open your cards if your allergic to card wrappers.
So people are paying streamers to open packs the streamers already own? Are you tipping a streamer to open their pack on stream? Are you buying a pack from a streamer and not opening it yourself??
Jesus, that Herbie rpa is jacked after that dude jamming it in a sleeve too small. Looks and sounds like the scammer has no idea what he's doing. Sorry, I don't feel bad for the people still using whatnot. Known for j boy scammers but you still buy from random people. Smh. Friends don't let friends whatnot.
that breaker is an idiot and clueless and can't sleeve a card. I like how these breakers think they have a high-end card and going to make a lot of money. it a nice card for Herbert it not a rookie and he not doing much at the moment perhaps 400 on a good day and the other cards 100 if he lucky.
Does not relate to videos sorry. Does PSA do 1/2 grades? Everything I have found says no asking because GameStop they have a 8.5 PSA graded card. Assuming it is fake but just got back into the card hobby recently so not 100% sure.
At the time you released this video, he had already been banned and customer was refunded the market price of the cards. Whatnot Has stepped up and booted him for this. Why bash whatnot when they had took action BEFORE you even posted this video. Which is why you didn’t pull his account up.. not cause he deleted it as you said, whatnot Made that choice.
Dude the constantly bringing up of tattoos = scammer is weird. I would feel the exact same way if you brought up the color of their skin is the reason they were stealing. Just some food for thought.
As a person with hand tattoos that also sells on whatnot I gotta say that was a pretty stupid comment saying that he was trying to save up to get a hand tattoo. Pretty much you are saying if you have hand tattoos you are scamming which is generalizing something somebody got done to their body in a negative way. I appreciate your videos and your love for the community, but that was stupid my dude. PS- CLEARLY NON TATTOOED PEOPLE SCAM.
It’s just a bit….i don’t think he means all people with hand tattoos, the joke is the scammers on whatnot always seem to have them. I don’t think people really think that 😂
The account says.. User has been removed from the platform for violating Whatnots community guidelines. So good work
Again this is why I don’t have a whatnot account anymore. Never got scammed but thanks to you I deleted my account. I can’t believe people still buy on whatnot.
Just dont do pokemon or use no name breakers you dont know
Once the payment goes through the buyer owns the product. Streamers not providing what was paid for are committing theft and can be prosecuted.
Not if he cancels the order. now it's the sellers property. Change of heart. lol
Should be illegal but nothing would come of it
Lol welcome to the real world little buddy. No one is being prosecuted 😂
Must be owned by democrats
Would never buy on whatnot period but this dude is clearly fried. Huge red flag
I'm convinced most of the sellers on there aren't doing great financially, they probably picked up breaking as a way to make money.
They probably ended up taking loses and found it's harder to move product at a profit after fees, shipping, and running giveaways to boost their presence in the algorithm.
So predictably these streamers are likely flight risks to the platform or at the very least scamming.
If they pull something that they'll be able to break even on, or feel that it'll put them in the green and they can get out of breaking, they'll probably do it.
Better off going with trusted sellers, but even then... There's still tons of schemes, like if you pull a card with good centering they'll send you one with bad centering or with more white specs.
There are some good sellers on Whatnot, but generally no.
Generally if there's an exploit to squeeze more money out of the stream, it's an avenue they'll take.
I did receive a successfully removed report today on some of our eBay reports. So that was a breath of fresh air.
The vocal fry is unbearable
nearly as bad as rattles.
Dude sounds like a toad
I think I’m getting high just listening to him…
So true
Even if he didn't steal the box. Breaker trying to jam that 100pt patch auto in a regular sleeve is laughable. He literally just devalued that thing astronomically if the buyer wanted to grade it.
This guy also seems to have never opened this product before in his life. So the first time he opens it is for profit on a scam site. Word.
They also shouldn't slow roll the cards just show each card insted of one st s time with them peaking at the bottom of the card before showing it
Problem with Whatnot is they used to be super selective with sellers. They actually used to reject people from selling. Now they let anyone sell as long as you do a one time Zoom training.
It’s good you get your facts straight bc a lot of ppl accuse but have nothing to show. Thanks for saving ppl’s time and energy this stuff SHOULDNT happen
would this not be considered theft? you purchased from the buyer and you have proof that the money went thru. the person steals the items you purchased.. thats theft.
Depending on the value then it might be felony or misdemeanor. whatnot should have the information of the seller and they should work with police to prosecute them.
im not 100% but thats how i would treat it as. if not then whatnot is responsible for all the damages from their sellers since its their platform their selling thru and they receive money from these sellers. just waiting for either a lawsuit or an investigation on this company....
Cops tend to not care about scams idk why but that’s kinda how it is
they’ll probably argue that the money was refunded so it’s not theft, but I agree completely
You're correct. A streamer had a "bounty" for the infamous evolving skies moonbreon. If you pull that card, you take it and the bounty which was $1500 worth of pokemon merchandise so the card raw upgraded is like $500 + THE $1500 BOUNTY. SO $2000. Theft over $1000 in my country the USA. Is a felony. Grand larceny. So stealing something worth $2000 in the USA is a felony. On whatnot it was a 7 day ban and a refund. This needs fixed BADLY. ON ALL PLATFORMS.
@@Kath_astrophe i mean you could argue that the refund does not meet the value of the item, in small claims court. since the item you purchased was a sealed pack of cards at that point its your item, you decide the let the seller open that pack of cards. this is a service the seller provides at no cost, so when he opened it and found a very expensive item inside. Then even with the refund, it is considered theft as the seller did not know the value inside prior to the sale. because the refund only applies to a sealed pack of cards, not an opened pack. thats my opinion but until somebody sues or files a report we will never know. ( its the same if lets say i get a sealed pack, open it find nothing inside and demand a refund. )
Its very hard to find good sellers in Australia, i had a guy i use to buy from $500+aus Big bundles of stuff every week - then one day i picked it up and all my 151 poster boxes were resealed with glue gun also not even reasealed properly … havent been back since
If you’re in Melbourne I know a few really reputable ones!
@@Kath_astrophe unfortunately its sydney
@@Kath_astrophe but thankyou anyways
@@benpalme566 No worries at all, I know how it feels to not have a good and reliable supplier!
The payment has to go through for the order to be accepted, if not he wouldn’t be able to cancel an order
Straight up, lie! I sell on Whatnot, and if the payment doesn't go through, you can't cancel an order because it's not considered an order at all. It won't even show up at the end of the show.
Whatnot is the equivalent of buying from the shady guy in the alley. Buy from trusted sellers and established businesses.
Honest question….what size sleeves and top loaders fit thicker cards
www.bcwsupplies.com/thick-card-sleeves?acc=rattle
Code RATTLE10 for 10% off your BCW orders ;)
Anyone who sells on what-not “steals”. It’s all a rip off! Some just rip you off a little, others rip you off a lot.
Also he sounds like he’s all pilled up! Why would anyone trust this guy???
Does What Not NOT have a reputation system?
Friends don't let friends whatnot !
I highly suggest friends to whatnot.
@@h5ibluntman well the whole 2 of your friends should suggest help for you 🤣
It is in fact stolen goods you can take them to court. That being said not all what not sellers are bad. I purchased from a few that are really good and have only run into one bad one so far. They also started a mandatory training you have to go through, before you are allowed to sell on there.
His voice is so soothing!😂😂😂
Once again, I'm here for all aspects of card collecting. Sports, Pokémon, Magic, it all ties in together.
His voice is an enormous red flag because he legit sounds like a scammer and he sounds extremely stoned
Exactly. He sounds like he doesn't give a single damn about it at all. Like he doesn't even know much about the cards
Buying boxes from a seller watching the avengers in their stream....
Rattle you are so right. If whatnot did the right thing and vetted sellers and gave no 2nd chances to bad actors, they could grow and make more money than they do now by taking fees from scammers. If they were a trusted source than more people would join and buy stuff. Whats up what not?
Since the seller has the option to cancel an order does the buyer also have that option after the payment goes through?
Very very sad some people have no lives it’s really not worth getting your head kicked in for it in my opinion
The fact people over pay for OTHER people to open their cards alone should be illegal. Blows my mind. I get breaks and all. These rip and ships though? Order the damn packs and rip them. Blows my mind.
This is a great take, there are very few sellers on the app with decent morals and business models. Sadly not many good ones get the same traffic as the dazzlers, spinny boys, and hand tattoo SB lovers.. Open packs with friends!
I've bought coins.. not from those dumb wheels or gambling streams but just from sellers. Have had good luck. I always tell people, Whatnot is the wild west of auctions, and to be careful.
No wayyyyy not on Whatnot?!?! Never!! 😂
people who never worked for any guaranteed money will steal for such a little amount
its crazy
I usually buy a couple packs of every new set then I just buy singles
I made a whatnot account..Then I deleted it as soon as I watched a few sellers ripping people off..overpricing average silver coins you can buy anywhere for way cheaper ... Whatnot is for people with toooo much money and dont know how to spend it !!!
What it's been banning accounts left and right. I still use whatnot. But I do my research on sellers.
Btw that Herbert is not even close to a $700 card…
How much is it I tried looking it up
You're probably right but it's still a NICE card. Maybe 2-300$
whatnot would be so cool if there weren't so many awful people on the platform.
Whatnot now refunds card price. Look it up. I posted the link on that soccer 1/1 card. It started as of August 2024
What u do is just ask for the box unopened and sealed and you get it sent to ya address
This literally makes me scared to get into breaks because I’m so paranoid people like this ruin it for everyone.
I’m going to a card fair this weekend (I’m in Melbourne Australia) which has 7 Whatnot Staff flying over and I have some QUESTIONS for them, I’ll tell you that much 😂
How do you vet sellers in this situation? Walmart and amazon both vet sellers but scammers still occur so not sure you can actually prevent this type of thing.
Anyways the values seemed off when looking at comps. Not trying to defend the scammer, just pointing out he did this over 100$? Brooks recently went for 51, Herbert went 199 a few weeks ago...That value doesnt even cover the box let alone the fees/shipping on selling the cards.
Guess he didn't have much of a reputation to begin with.
Thank you Rattle, I'll never shop on whatnot.
Anyone who would pay someone with this breaking set up and that voice should have expected nothing less than thievery
Whatnot shows that account has been removed from platform due to violating community guidelines.
Why are they allowed to open the packs on stream after they are sold?
Lol it’s called a Rip. They aren’t usually a scammer. This is one of thousands of sellers doing this. Whatnot Has removed him and compensated the buyer for market value of the cards hit. That was conveniently left out here. Search bigdogsportsbreaks and you will see, he was removed for violations.
Whatnot customer service is god awful. Something needs to change.
Hey @dagoth-ur69 then explain those very basic & direct questions? You didn't think this through. It's very obvious. Everything was in your control, before, during and after. Nice box though eh.
😂so true 👍 😂 This is why any time I have bought in packs off of what not. I will not let rip I just make them ship do not trust.
Why would he open it if it didn’t go thru 😂🤣and how do you get a refund on a order that didn’t go thru
Shame on the mess
He sounds like he just hit the galaxy gas
I don't understand Whatnot. Why do people pay someone else to open it for them? Why don't they just receive the box unopened?
At least he is very carefiul with the cards he keeps.
Also he wouldn't have opened the box for hem if the money didnt go thru
those Luther Burden 3s will be heat in like 2 years.
lolololol
@@vendora1 just sucks homie doesn't get them, dumb scammers.
He probably has hand tattoos now.
Idk why ppl don't just buy it from panini n cheaper too smh ppl never learn
WhatNot is shit anyway. I got free £10 to spend and you need a bank card.. to spend any.. False hope trying to get something I want. Scammers just make it worse. I hope it gets shut down
Looks like his acc was banned if you check whatnot now for breaking community guidelines
Looks like he got the boot from WhatNot
Imagine buying a lottery ticket and winning the big money and you go to turn it in and they throw you the price of the original ticket(after taking it from you), all the while kicking you out of lottery headquarters. The ultimate smack in the face is later finding out on T.V that someone high up/owner in the lottery company somehow legally cashed in the winning numbers. If many people were affected by this it would be a pitchfork/torch party night at Lottery Inc LMFAO!
These people make you pay them to open packs for themselves lol.
I don't understand what the point is of buying a box from someone for them to open it for you??? Why not just buy the box yourself and open it yourself..
I knew you would eat this up when i saw it on twitter.
edit- just checked, they removed this thief
breakers doing scummy scumbag breakerish things? noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Always blows my mind that people watch streams and have them open packs for them hahaha like what’s the point?? Pulling the card is the best part!! I don’t get people man. Haha
razzle dazzle
I only buy singles from T_slabs and demgemz but I will never buy packs
This is why What Not sucks "the big one." Too many GuyBaller69's there to rip you off.
Na those skinny thumbs are not trustworthy lol my breakers need stubby thumbs
It sucks but it’s not us only the ppl selling cards literally show me other wise
I'm up too 834 free givvys From Whatnot now, Love the Free chit
He sounds like he's ripped from weed or from doing something that makes you nod out lol. Anyone that's just a regular kind of tired would definitely be awake in a second. 😆🤥😶🌫️🤯🤤🙂↕️
Very g baller individual 😂
I still don’t get this platform in general. Like why get someone you don’t know and has zero credibility, to open your products. It’s literally stupid, open your own stuff. Hell pay a family member to open your cards if your allergic to card wrappers.
Here to defend my hand tattoos you monster
Please explain why your hand tats are your personality
So people are paying streamers to open packs the streamers already own? Are you tipping a streamer to open their pack on stream? Are you buying a pack from a streamer and not opening it yourself??
Jesus, that Herbie rpa is jacked after that dude jamming it in a sleeve too small. Looks and sounds like the scammer has no idea what he's doing. Sorry, I don't feel bad for the people still using whatnot. Known for j boy scammers but you still buy from random people. Smh. Friends don't let friends whatnot.
So what was all of this stuff worth?
Millions
@@aaronscott2278 lolol
Let’s be honest it’s only the card ppl scamming bro u literally only show card ppl from whatnot bro
that breaker is an idiot and clueless and can't sleeve a card. I like how these breakers think they have a high-end card and going to make a lot of money. it a nice card for Herbert it not a rookie and he not doing much at the moment perhaps 400 on a good day and the other cards 100 if he lucky.
Seller def doesn't take opiates... that raspy voice says it all...
Hey im covered in tattoos, and I know not to buy from these bums!
Why do people do business with young unprofessional strangers? There is nothing sincere or appealing about this breaker.
Does not relate to videos sorry. Does PSA do 1/2 grades? Everything I have found says no asking because GameStop they have a 8.5 PSA graded card. Assuming it is fake but just got back into the card hobby recently so not 100% sure.
How is he able to stream an Avenger movie ON STREAM lmao. Copyright? Whatnot is a MESS. STAY FAR AWAY FROM THAT SHIT SHOW
Again and again...lol 😅
Sad to get ripped off but if you get refunded it better than nothing ,take that money and go buy some packs in person
Dude can’t even sleeve a card, is crushing corners holding cards, why would anyone pay for this even if they didn’t scam?
Bro please stop talking so much during the video my god I had to turn the volume down u gave me a head ack sorry but just want to see video
bros voice is hard to listen too.
Whatnot is trash
At the time you released this video, he had already been banned and customer was refunded the market price of the cards. Whatnot Has stepped up and booted him for this. Why bash whatnot when they had took action BEFORE you even posted this video. Which is why you didn’t pull his account up.. not cause he deleted it as you said, whatnot Made that choice.
I think his point is that whatnot are inconsistent with making these things right, and they don’t do enough to prevent it in the first place
Bro I like your videos but you just talk a little to much . Come on man give it a break for a min and just run the video. We get it he’s a scammer
Guys voice is putting me to sleep. I could never watch this guys stream even if he was honest
Dude the constantly bringing up of tattoos = scammer is weird. I would feel the exact same way if you brought up the color of their skin is the reason they were stealing. Just some food for thought.
As a person with hand tattoos that also sells on whatnot I gotta say that was a pretty stupid comment saying that he was trying to save up to get a hand tattoo. Pretty much you are saying if you have hand tattoos you are scamming which is generalizing something somebody got done to their body in a negative way. I appreciate your videos and your love for the community, but that was stupid my dude.
PS- CLEARLY NON TATTOOED PEOPLE SCAM.
Thicker skin my dude
My thoughts exactly, couldnt have said it better myself.
It’s just a bit….i don’t think he means all people with hand tattoos, the joke is the scammers on whatnot always seem to have them. I don’t think people really think that 😂
can u talk less and show vid.