New Volkswagen e-up! FULL REVIEW with updated range 2020 - Autogefühl
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- This is our in-depth review of the new Volkswagen e-up! We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience.
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Ordered one about a month ago.
Cost around 18200 Euro, with almost all extra options(not the biggest rims, missing interior ambient lighting and some other "useless" stuff) and 3 years of services included aswell.
With todays electric prices this costs under 0,2 euro per 10km of driving here in Norway, which means that we save 70-100 euro per month in petrol/diesel only
You save 300 euro per year in "road tax".
You get half price on toll roads(some places its free with electric)
Alot of places you can park for free aswell.
Will keep our other car for longer distance travelling, but this will be our daily driver for sure!
How is it going with the eup? I thinking of getting one
@@ruim8590 I like it really as my everyday driver. For me as a student it's perfect! :D
@@ruim8590 haven't gotten it yet. If everything goes as planned the factory will start making the ones for Norway next week, then there will probably be some months more with waiting for the shipping and dealer making it ready. The dealer estimated we would get it in April.
Daniel H. Ruud how is it?
@@Akephalos204 Still haven't gotten it. It's finished, but somewhere on the transit over here still, might take some time with the current corona situation....
Have one now for 6 month. Really like it.
Quick in town. Silent on the highway.
Not for 1.000 km journeys. But 250km drives, very much ok!
On the highway about 120W/km. City around 10W/km.
Charging at home at 11KW (3 phase). Fastcharging at app 30KW.
For distance we have a Z4 35is. Kids are all grown up and leave us pretty much alone on our travels :)
Solarpanels on the roof means that we drive for free with kWh's to spare.
Thx for the review.
Great review! Thanks!
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Yes, very good Review, detail and commentary AJ - many thanks for the info. Keep up the good work.
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Great review! I’m seriously thinking about getting one of these. Think it would be great as second car and for my daily commuting just like you mentioned.
Nice video. I actually ordered one and waiting for vw to tell me when delivery will begin.
I wish VW would bring these to the USA. I noticed many things that remind me of my classic Beetle (metal on interior of doors, pop out windows etc.). Really love it.
Halogen bulbs work fine! Xenon are very bright and blue.
Shame it's 5 door only now. The Mi in 3 door looked great, particularly the Monte Carlo and Up! in GTi
Good work and great review, AJ. The design is quite basic, but also very practical for urban driving. The increase in range over the previous version is very good and will be much appreciated by e-up! buyers. Using a smart phone as an alternative to an expensive infotainment system makes sense in this segment as most people already have a phone. One place where it's let down however is the lack of padded armrests on the doors. One point about electric cars is although one pays a higher price initially, you save a lot in running costs since the cost of electricity is much less than petrol. Thanks Autogefuhl and cheers!
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No you don't. If I buy a cheap economical petrol car, say suzuki celerio or toyota aygo for say 12k... the total price if I drive it for say 5 years will still be cheaper than 30k.
@@mastermaltese8731 He said 22-23k, not 30.
I usually read comments from EV owners talking about reduced costs in maintenance and service, so that's another thing to consider - along with the other running costs - when having to choose between a fossil ICE cat and an EV.
@@pHD77 True maybe. My point is that for what you're getting, a basic car with no LEDs... it should be cheaper. All should. And that till now I believe it doesn't male sense to buy EV..( price wise of course, not environmentally)
The most useful review. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
чудовий огляд,все по темі сказано!
дякую!
Great review Thomas.
VW need to release a "mini" ID3 ,or keep improving the VW UP! City cars NEED to be small.
In time prices will come down. For now, it will sell in small numbers, due to cost.
thanks tom !
I would happily pay more for Xenon or LED lights, I really hate halogen lights...
The Škoda Citigo e iV has LED daytime running lights.
Evolt the E-Up also has them.... I am talking about main lights.
The problem with Xenon/LED is the mandatory automatic headlight range adjustment. VW would have had to redesign the front, making the car too expensive.
They instead are investing the money to develop a dedicated platform for small EVs, similar to the MEB used in their ID.3.
Wermagst they just need to add automatic headlight control. No need to redesign the front end mate. There are cars with and without that option, for example the Citroen C5.
@@kamata93 The C5 was developed with that option, the up back in 2011 wasn't. If it was so easy to just add LED headlights, there would be plenty of aftermarket kits, but there are none.
Thank you for the complete review!
I think the UP is a four seat car, as I didn't see the rear central belt
Aye
Gotta edit out the mistake thx
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What a nice review
thanks, feel free to share =)
I have the petrol version of this and it really is excellent. I'd love an electric version but it cost too much. Although if I had to I'd pick the Up before a leaf
im picking mine up today at the dealer
Are you happy with it?
@@nitelite78 VERY happy with it :)
It’s not a tachometer. It is a power percentage gauge. Pwr. %x10. Says it on the dial.
I wish you guys were more clear in the video that you can have the faster charger at home if you install one, just so people who are knew to electric cars will know about that option.
very true, but you need to be careful with knowing the load it puts on your domestic supply, it can trip your main fuse.
Here's what I want for my FIRST Electric Car: BASIC Car ( K. I. S.S.) ~ Charge on 110vac~ No Computers ~ Digital Read outs ~ 100
You can say “throttle” or “gas pedal”. They are heritage terms. In a few decades there will be TH-cam vids telling us “why do we say ‘step on the gas’?”
Seems an odd cost decision to put high-drain halogen lights in an electric car. In the UK we commute to work in darkness for most of the year. I remember the early electric Smarts - switch the lights and wipers on and watch your range disappear! I’m sure things are better nowadays, but I would have expected eco-lights in an eco-commute car.
Yeah it is a downside
The drain is negible in a car with a 36kWh battery: even at full beam + rear fog it would drain about 150w with all lights on. At 60kph/40mph average speed, you would consume 9kw per hour in driving energy (@150wh/km). 150w of lights contributes 150/9000= 1.6%.
Full LED could bright it down to 40w, but that only saves you about 1% on total consumption number, 99%* 150wh/km= 148.5wh/km or 14.85kwh/100km.
The heater on the other hand, has a BIG influence, as it drains about 3-4kWh in winter!
@@davithdevries6774 that's something that is certainly worth thinking about
When autogefuhl will be alowed to drive ID.3? Or test Golf 8 on track or autobahn? Also would you get general explanations from automakers challenges in simultaneous development of gas/diesel/electrics: supply chain, regulations and laws, universities, labs e prototypes, etc. Tires, bearings, asphalt, oils or anything else used in formula-e are being usefull in today industry leading us for less pollution prospere future?
we ll keep u updated on that!
with the new e-up that has 260km range, is it possible to replace this battery with the old e-up, that only has 160km range?
not that I know of
@@autogefuehl well in a year there will be cars with 360 km range, making it kind of useless, since new technology is there but you cannot upgrade to it.
In the UK - I have a petrol Skoda Citigo. Bought it for just over £7000 (about EUR8200) just over 2 years ago. Its cheap to run and insure. The e-UP would be a good car, but at EUR23000, that is almost 3 times the cost. I do a large mileage and yet my fuel per year is around £2000, so even keeping the car for 4 years, the petrol car is still far cheaper than the electric car. If the public are going to buy small electric cars like this, then the price of a car like this needs to be reduced by around EUR10000 to make it competitive.
3rd passenger in the middle? As far as I know, there’s only 2 seatbelts in the back. At least that was the case on the Up we had (non-electric).
Correct just 2
Gotta edit out the mistake thx
I wish they could change battery componenlt to removable. Just to make it easy to replace and cosy effective.
I don't think that would be an advantage. I would expect VW to have a good Battery Management System, that keeps the battery at good operating conditions. There are e.g. Tesla's now that have driven 500.000 km with the original battery.
yes
That's not a tachometer, it's a power meter, measuring current going into or out of the batteries, not rpm..
I don't see why city cars aren't sold in US/Canada
Colin Krefting not worth it for the very few who would buy them
Too many fat people
OMG, I'd love to see this in Canada.
How much it consumes at 130 km/h?
At 130 km/h it would likely consume around 220 Wh/km, so don't expect more than 150 km of range at that speed.
tbnzet thank you and sorry if I ask you but...do you say this cause you know it or you are just supposing it?
@@emilianomontanari283 - You're welcome. I based it on Bjørn Nyland's test, where the e-Up used 206 Wh/km at 120 km/h, and then added a bit more, similar to the increase I would see in my Tesla Model 3 :)
Ok thx. So maybe I will spend 20.5 KWh at 120kmh. Thank you
Tail light shape is for "e"
Have waited to new Id 2 comes instead to get a car on new Meb plattform from Volkswagen.
Otherwise Nissan Imk feels alot cooler but when it comes to market not revealed yet
16500 euros Skoda Citigo e iV in Croatia - ordered, delivery in Feb.2020. - no government grant, price with 2 000 eur Skoda dealer dicount so it will be 18500 after 01.01.
R Cajavus thanks for the info. Ordered one myself, from croatian dealer as well. Where did you get info that delivery would be in february? I was informed that I could wait for the delivery for up to 7 months.
18100 Euro in Sweden but Goverment grants included then 6000 Euro and 25% Vat
@@grofflek3250 you are right. but if you buy already "configured" the first ones will come in feb and the custom order ones will come in 200 days so you are right. i gave mine some equipment (light assistant, cruise, tinted windows, boot floor, tungsten gray, steel rims, base model) and it came at 129,700 kuna so it came to some 6,500 over base price with dealer discount to 17,450 and delivery - 200 days unless they manage to "switch" it for one of their already "oredered" models but the order has not yet been sent so ask your dealer if they can "push" your car in their order! you have 2 days!!!!
@@rcajavus8141 thanks a lot for the info. Yeah, my contract also states 200 days (plus up to 80 additional, I guess they need some more contingency). Mine came out "only" 14 400 HRK cheaper (as per info on their website), don't know how you managed to get your heaftier discount, but good for you :). Also, I don't think I'm gonna switch for prebuilt variants, since the extra time plays in my favour, because of goverment grants, for which applications, if I'm not mistaken, are being expected in April?
Just ordered !
Cool. I hope you enjoy your new car. 😊
30:32 - 250 km on the highway, doesn't that sound a bit optimistic?
90 km/h ;)
@@drpsht and a lot of queue traffic on the highway 😅
Want!
I would have preferred a solar panel on the roof.
Cost/weight versus charging power don’t make it economical.
There is one, check sonomotors.com, originally from Germany.
Ok.. but it's SEAT sibling is EXACTLY the same car and it costs 5K less....why would i choose to by the e-up instead of the Mii ? I think that the VW branded version of this car is going to live shortly and eventually it'll be sold by SEAT or SKODA brands only
sometimes leasing rates at VW are better and the car ends up cheaper. Depends on dealer pricing. But agree to list pricing!
Oh that's interesting
Depreciation, vw"s are always worth more.
£20,000 for a small city car. VW said they were going to sell these at 'similar' prices to the petrol equivalents, and these used to be £10,000......
They REALLY don't want you to buy electric cars.
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Used UP! GTI's will go up in price some day, if there is no more petrol UP!'s haha
The Up GTi is coming back next year, apparently.
I would pay for if it, even in thirty years because I live in US, and think cars are at their high point during 2010s/early 2020s
30:19 That feel when you've been past by a Model 3 on the highway, but you are in a VW.
Starting price in Germany after all subsidies: 17.370 € >>>>> Great and Cheap!
Not exactly a Tesla is it?
The range is on the low side. That would mean that I have to charge about 3 times compared to my current Take Up full tank. With E10 range is already a lot lower. Pricing at public chargers in the neighborhood (€0,43) would mean at 2-3 full charge around same as gasoline full tank. My tipping point would be around 350km range. Please proof me wrong. Daily commute home-work-home this would do. Lucky for me my lease ends next year.
Most people could drive a few days without charging.
Still interested in a lease. VW put is price way up. Skoda is second. Seat has lowest at this moment. €320/month.
I fill up 2 times a month. 2 Full tanks €110
So I calculated 6 charges. For same amount of kilometers. Shell Recharge tells me full battery 0-100 is €12,51 so about €75 a month. In current IONITY pricing scheme you never know what the rest will do. Certain is that Dutch government will raise taxes on gasoline coming years. Do I switch this year to electric or in 5 years. Starting in March the max speed on highway will be brought back from 120-130 to 100kph. Driving electric will need different approach in driving.
I don't think the cheap EV factor excuses it from being an atrocious proposition compared to it's modern citycar rivals like the new Hyundai i10 or even the previous i10 if we're being frank.
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I don't get why these small electric cars come with 4 doors as standard when the rear seating is only useful for pets, kids or groceries. I'll bet 90% of the time there will only be one person in a car like this. Even if you use it to bring the kids to school (not very environmentally friendly🤧) there's no real need for 4 doors.
- Instead of a heat Pump the Car hast Just a usual Heat System which can decrease 30 percent of range.
- Instead of liquid cooling the battery is only air cooled which increases Degradation.
- Instead of LED IT has only Xenon Lights.
I recommend to wait for the Sion from Sono Motors which is planned to have solar panels to compensate Energy losses and to charge the battery. Also Check Out tbeir concept and Vision.
Cute.
cant wait for this to cost 10 000euro in 2024
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A very expensive cake
Still far too expensive, costing over £20,ooo here in the Uk, and still a poor limited range.
Until all electric vehicles can match their solid fuel alternatives for range and price, then they will still sell in tiny numbers.
Solid fuel? You mean they run on coal? Hmm. Might get one of those..
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Tesla cars : Model S, 3, X, Y , Cybertruck
Other car manufacturer : E
eUp eGolf e-tron Taycan --- Tesla has no history (and not too much future) ;)
haha so true >< e-208, mach e, honda-e, e-niro, mercedes eqc, fiat 500 e and the list goes on and on
@@frjazz7677 well companies like VW have a customer base of 100.000.000+ people .... you have to stick to some rules to avoid confusion there
halogen headlights on an EV... 😏
I used to like this car... back in 2011... getting a bit old now.
Hyundai i10 is better.
There was no e-Up! in 2011. Compared to an electric drive train the i10's ICE feels like it has asthma.
@@wermagst No there wasn't but there was the regular UP! That was the car I was referring to. Yes it may feel slow compared to the electric UP! but the 60bhp petrol Up! is no ball of fire either!
@@melcanuck5951 All those small petrol engines suck: low torque, slow acceleration and need to rev up high to get any meaningful power out of them (plus the annoying noise). If you have a chance to do a test drive in the new e-Up, give it a go. There is nothing better for a small city car, than an electric drive train. Here in Germany the e-Up will have almost the same price as an equally configured petrol version (after 6570 € incentives). Relly a no-brainer, as it is considerably cheaper to run.
@@wermagst I drove my first electric car when I was 5 years old at a fun fair.... it was a bumper car :)
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I would consider an electric car when the purchase prices come down and the range improves. An eUP is a bit small for me and IMO the Golf GTE is too expensive... and there is no Polo Electric (yet)
More expensive than the electric Seat Mii despite being the same car.
same goes with all VW vs Skoda/Seat
Mii/Citigo don't have the reverse camera. Citigo has fewer controls on the steering wheel, the Mii has none. So not exactly the same car.
@@wermagst and different logo too 😉
Still overpriced really, for not much more you can have the much n bigger better equipped MG ZS EV, .
but people may not want it need bigger
The up has a much better energie efficientie thanthe MG
At this price you can get a Renault Zoe 300km WLTP Led lights and much nicer interieur
You'll have to bring it in for repairs every 300km though.
Naive fallacy. The Zoe does not come at 21950€ with 300 km WLTP. And even if you choose the 300 km-Zoe for 2.000€ more you do not own the battery.
U dont own the battery with Renault indeed
In my country the Zoe is almost 10 000€ more.
German price after subsidies >> 17.370 €
Trying v hard to promote an ugly and dated car.... Electric does not make it any more beautiful .... VW coming in late and sounds desperate to flog an old model as new. I.D3 ... Way too expensive ... So they are trying to promote the up as their base/ economy electric VW. It may work on some people..
My take: buy a much cheaper, reliable, economical, stylish suzuki swift instead of this expensive, boring,90's AA+++ moving fridge.
Crap car. Why are people allowed to make such ugly things?
Electric cars stuff don't drive to much or you can run out of electricity and please don't use your climate control in summer
Yawn... this was wrong when I started driving EVs in 2016. Now it’s just sad.
So you say "I have never drove a eCar before but I like complaining"
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