@@pelowj The Petrol version costs 15,000 Euros, so yeah, it‘s pretty expensive compared to petrol cars, since you pay double the money for the same car, just as an ev. It‘s at least like this in Germany, where I‘m from.
another great review, I do like someone who just states the facts. The E-UP is a great small car and this review is about the best I have seen. Thank you.
Just love this 🤟 Seems like the true spiritual successor to the original Mini, as an EV! Basic, a wheel at each corner, all you need most of the time. I'd happily do the cost-to-coast in one 🙂
I just bought a used one of these here in the UK, and am loving it. I was a little anxious about what state the battery would be in after 2.5 years in the hands of an unknown former owner, but it has all checked out well, and with a nearly-new state of health. I don't know if the Irish model is different, but the UK one WILL charge at 7kW on singe phase - BUT you have to tell it to using the app. By default, and without going near an app, it is limited to 4kW. But if you run the Miles + More app, look for the charging rate slider, and move it to the maximum position. Once set to max, the car charges at 7kW. And it seems to remember that setting even if you don't run the app ever again. VW hasn't done itself any favours with the Miles + More app, which isn't even mentioned in the owner's manual. I have read that the other app (simply called VW App, if I recall correctly) may also have the same charge rate setting, but I haven't been able to get that app to work.
It’s an ideal 2nd car for those with young family, great city commuter. Definitely one for the shortlist in particular when it comes to 2nd hand market. Great vid as always!
It would be an ideal car for a person who wants the least impact car - and if they're more of an experienced driver to know the limits of the car they drive and plan accordingly. A hypermiler maybe.
i have it,its the best electric car on market,three years old for only 13000 euro and so rich luxus feeling on a small car ,350km in summertime only 15 euro in month,better than a bigger gasoline car in comfort...no gearing,no braking quiet fast wow
Thanks, models this size should get the most incentives, and car manufactures should be supported to produce more models this size, because they're a lot more sustainable compared to for instance a VW ID.4
The other biggy is that the insurance is dead cheap on these What puts me off EVs is that because I don't drive that often, I'm looking for something that's cheap to drive, cheap to insure and is reliable The reliability issue is why I wouldn't want a Renault Zoe got example despite being very cheap and has an even bigger range There's a reason why small cars sell well in European countries. We have public transport otherwise
Derek, great review - at last a small more affordable EV. Pity VW did not have time for a ground-up design but good effort., Maybe they should leave Skoda produce a ground-up Fabia type EV? I believe Chinese manufacturers will steal this market segment from the incumbents. Thanks, Eamon
I have the Skoda Citigo e IV same car and have had it for nearly 3 years now…great car for a first EV I was looking to change it and have driven a MG and a Vauxhall Mokka E and apart from the size difference the little Skoda drives just as well as the bigger cars and I can’t really justify paying a lot more for not really much gain
Great to see the "no frills" cars begining to arrive. The EV revolution continues to progress. Agree with you Derek, this car is perfect for the town but if you had a choice, and considering the occasional long run, the MG4 might be a better car. VW have loyalty and history but MG don't (yet). However I think this advantage that the legacy brands have is rapidly being eroded. For me dieselgate colours my view on VW so I'm not neutral. As others commented on the attire I will not..... suffice to say the hoodie was well ironed. (now look what you started!) Thanks Dereck your enthusiasm for the car is superb and VW will eagerly give you more cars to review. Keep up the good work. DES
We traded our 2012 Up in for a new-old-stock 2021 e-Up and absolutely love it! On many days we get sub 12kWh/100km power consumption in Eco mode. It’s quick, quiet and the ride quality is of a more expensive car.
We have had the Seat Mii version of this car in the UK for 18 months and they are excellent for a first EV. Great for short trips, not so good on the motorway as the charge use goes up and the max speed is 80mph, great acceleration from 0-30 though. My wife loves it, over here it's possible to get a 2-year old model with low miles for around £15K due to the electricity prices going up and it's a bargain at that price.
I would love to see the coast to coast test! 😁 I do think the charge rate is a bit of a let down though, as a lot of smart meters only offer 2-3 hours of discounted electricity now that’s the difference between 7.2-10.8kWh vs 14-21kWh with a more widespread 7kW single phase. Might be a problem for those with longer daily commutes to charge enough over night
This is the solid argument that I used to see for 3-phase inboard chargers that only the Renault Zoe, Smart ForTwo ED and Teslas get. That's as far as I know, would love to know if there's any more. They're still the majority of public chargers that we have in Ireland. Really weirdly for Ireland it was actually planned and built in anticipation of future EV numbers at the local level. But what use is having a nifty little EV that can suck back 20kW in about an hour when most EVs now have type-2 chargers with 3.6 to 10.ish kW? Especially the norm of bigger thirstier cars, they would do better with fast 3-phase AC. Truth is most manufacturers won't take that into consideration with which markets they're selling to.
perfect little car for the city. this will do for 95% of the folks living in cities, not the big ugly LR defenders . One thing that I tend to do while watching your videos is identify the route that you are driving. Its LIke an interesting guessing game for me
@5:26 Just because a light is not LED doesn't mean its Halogen. I think you meant incandescent - ie light via heat (not as efficient as LED). Or just say non-LED. Great review of a very tempting EV.
Great to see small cars, need to convince more people to start with their 2nd car to drop kids to school, this would be ideal. Would still prefer the id2 concept which I'm waiting on to downgrade from my id3. Love the dash buttons, old fashioned but what I'd like rather than fiddling with a touch screen while on bumpy road.
Having one of these motors for 18 months I can realiably say it's more like sub 30kW DC charging most of the year. 3.2kW single phase, 6.8kW on three phase. Eco mode limits the top speed to 120kph. Eco+ to 90kph.
Die maximale Ladeleistung beträgt je nach ladestand 1C = 36,8kw. Im Schnitt je nach ladebereich bewegt man sich zwischen 22-25kw. Sinnvoll ist 20-70%. Der up kann nicht dreiphasig laden. Er zieht jeweils 16a pro Phase und das auf maximal zwei. Das sind 3,680kw pro Phase. Bei Ladung über AC genehmigt sich das Fahrzeug anscheinend ca 100w. Mit einer Codierung kann man anscheinend auch 32 über eine Phase ziehen ich rate aber davon ab. Die verschiedenen modis limitieren nicht nur die Geschwindigkeit, sondern die Leistungsaufnahme des Motors und unter anderem auch der Heizung. Im Winter sehr zu empfehlen! das Fahrzeug aufzuheizen und dann im eco Modus losfahren.
I have the 2016 model, it is brillant 🤩 The 210 nM insane torque makes the front wheels 🛞 slip. Solution: softer rubber = I use winter tires all year long and thank god I have a headrest, the acceleration is insane, you feel the G force 😂 One point overlooked in the video is the instant freewheeling/Max Regen function switching hidden in the shift stick, you need to pull it back to switch back and forth between modes, it is brilliant as you can accumulate kinetic energy on a downward road in freewheeling at good speed rate and switch max regen instantly before the curve. This is better than slow down going in one pedal mode as you will go slow and annoy petrol heads behind you.
Cheap and cheerful, perfect for around town. Just disappointing most people want more these days. Here in Australia buyers have historically been chasing the US style, bigger is better, so this one would be unlikely to sell in decent quantities here. Reminds me of the old Leyland Mini with those rear windows and body coloured interior exposed metal.
I have one in denmark i drive alle year 166km a day in winter time it can only do this with around 40km left :) now it have runned 60000km :) love it bigtime 😊 In sunmer time i have around 120km left
Hello. I recently purchased an E Up and so far its looking to be quite efficient. I'd like to try it on a east coast to south west road trip and was wondering if you're going to do a coast to coast review of it at any stage. Thanks
These cars have become excellent value. Due to collect a new one in Kings Red Metallic for 17500 euro in Feb 2024. Very hard to get any new car at this price, let alone an EV. Not for everyone but an ideal second car for most people.
VW should explain to us why Ireland doesn't get the Skoda and SEAT sisters to the eUP! which happen to be considerably cheaper than what we only get in Ireland.
Osram and Phillips now has led for almost every car that has the old H4 and H7 bulbs. Just replacing them like that. And yes they are street legal. The lights are white and way better than the original H4.
I love this car, this is a drivers car. It has a normal style gear selector and a real handbrake. But the range lets it down and the fact it has too many doors, small cars look silly as a five door. Then there's the price, it is a little high, if they fixed the range so it gets 200 to 250 miles and deleted the rear doors it would be worth the full price, maybe even an extra 5 grand. If they removed the back doors and maybe optioned a second battery pack that goes in the boot floor and gives an extra 40 to 50 miles it would finish this car off.
Nice car but still too expensive at 27k for a city runabout. A one litre Suzuki Swift is 10k less than this and you would get a lot of kms for 10k in a Suzuki. So green issues apart very hard to justify that outlay for a tiny car.
The e-UP since it was first sold in 2014 had a miserable battery, it was some time ago when it had the upgraded 36kWh, either battery it was a window into the limitations of choice that Irish people would get to know. The eUP had a surprise reboot in 2020 when its cease for production was cancelled because of the demand across Europe for an entry level EV VW. Often it has made me really scrutinise how unreliable and unnecessarily hard it is getting the variety cars that are more needed as a whole, what's available in different countries (in the same commercial market no less) ...instead what we're familiar with is the little variety of choice away from the constant arms race for bigger, posher, faster, heavier, etc. Imagine existing cars now and then years ago being converted. Like if Fiat made an electric Panda, or if Citroën made an electric C3 Cactus or Picasso
Still too expensive for what it is. Second hand ice car twice the size for half the price i will take any day. I hope evs do catch on but it wont be any time soon with these prices
@@simonbcity Real-world range is MG4 is approximate 190 miles and in this car is approx 130 miles. Of course if it's very cold and you're driving fast those ranges would go lower.
VW have a problem! This is their best EV, but it makes small profit (if any?), a 'city car' that is great anywhere in Ireland and UK is just what almost anyone needs.
Yes this is more like it. EV's are more likely to be your everyday second car. This works for me. Its a bit pricy as are most VWs but its a very good starting point.
Considering VW is talking about a sub-25 K ev, this doesn't bode well for their ambitions. It's far too expensive for a small car and tbh it strikes me as an attempt to test markets.
Thanks Tom. Legacy EV and not on a dedicated EV platform. Sub 25k EV will never be achieved in Ireland with the double taxation in my options but for a sub 30k car, I was very impressed with quality and spec.
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Can not understand why EV's are not exempt from tax and the lost revenue attached to ICE. Oh and the same for all low to zero-carbon options, solar panels, heat pumps, ect.
The 130 miles of range and 'fast' charging speed of nearly an hour for this size of a battery are a dealbreaker for me. I cannot justify nearly 30-grand for this in Ireland. If it had real-world range of 250 miles and faster charing (7kW and 77kW) then it may be a different conversation. Yes, it's a small EV, but not everyone of us can afford two cars, so we need more range. Some of us are a lot further from the airport. A used longer-range EV is the better option for the majority of us at this point. If it was small but practical then that would be something, but there are too many compromises for the price. In ten-fifteen years time people will laugh at the idea of buying a car for nearly €30K in Ireland with just 130 miles of range. It's early days in the EV space right now; your money is better going toward a different car. Not even a screen for the infotainment-needing to use your own phone is cheeky, and not in a good sense.
I really like the trio of cars Vw group made but the new price is foolish. As a used buy around £11k it makes a lot of sense. Limitations on fast charging due to no active battery cooling limit its use case but gor s lot of people it's a very good starter EV for shorter slower commutes.
Wiper noise what is it with VWs , my T-Roc is horrendous my previous Tiguan was the the same the only thing that will cure it is aftermarket Bosch blades at about £40 there not cheap .😢
Thankfully reputable manufacturers have very ethical supply chains along with the upcoming battery passport tracking where they came from and go to. A number of battery manufacturers are going cobalt free www.transportenvironment.org/discover/batteries-vs-oil-comparison-raw-material-needs/
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This car is what more cars need to be. Simple, efficient, cheap. I am a huge fan.
Me too! I really couldn't hide my smile all week
But it's not cheap! It's €33,000 (before grants) for a car that looks like it's competing with sub €20k petrol cars.
@@pelowj With the grant, it's priced relatively okay. Without the grant, you'd be mad to buy one.
Agree James and Niall. We'd all like more affordable EVs
@@pelowj The Petrol version costs 15,000 Euros, so yeah, it‘s pretty expensive compared to petrol cars, since you pay double the money for the same car, just as an ev. It‘s at least like this in Germany, where I‘m from.
Forget the car for a moment,can we just point out how well this man has hit the wardrobe today with the matching coloured shoes to the EVRI hoodie
Now I can't unsee it. Thanks!
Ha ha ha, I try. Most videos go unnoticed 😉
Love the no frills where we don't really need them!
Exactly
another great review, I do like someone who just states the facts. The E-UP is a great small car and this review is about the best I have seen. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Just love this 🤟 Seems like the true spiritual successor to the original Mini, as an EV! Basic, a wheel at each corner, all you need most of the time. I'd happily do the cost-to-coast in one 🙂
The coast to coast is getting more and more interest with this model
@@NevoEVReviewIreland one charge on route should do it, guessing you’d normally stop on that trip anyway
Love it! Not huge power but nice and compact. I'm sure it would be lots of fun on some twisty roads.
A little go kart
A cute lil packet of joy ❤
Agreed 👍🏻
I just bought a used one of these here in the UK, and am loving it. I was a little anxious about what state the battery would be in after 2.5 years in the hands of an unknown former owner, but it has all checked out well, and with a nearly-new state of health.
I don't know if the Irish model is different, but the UK one WILL charge at 7kW on singe phase - BUT you have to tell it to using the app. By default, and without going near an app, it is limited to 4kW. But if you run the Miles + More app, look for the charging rate slider, and move it to the maximum position. Once set to max, the car charges at 7kW. And it seems to remember that setting even if you don't run the app ever again.
VW hasn't done itself any favours with the Miles + More app, which isn't even mentioned in the owner's manual. I have read that the other app (simply called VW App, if I recall correctly) may also have the same charge rate setting, but I haven't been able to get that app to work.
It’s an ideal 2nd car for those with young family, great city commuter. Definitely one for the shortlist in particular when it comes to 2nd hand market. Great vid as always!
It would be an ideal car for a person who wants the least impact car - and if they're more of an experienced driver to know the limits of the car they drive and plan accordingly. A hypermiler maybe.
Thanks both!
i have it,its the best electric car on market,three years old for only 13000 euro and so rich luxus feeling on a small car ,350km in summertime only 15 euro in month,better than a bigger gasoline car in comfort...no gearing,no braking quiet fast wow
Can’t wait getting this as my first car 😁
This or the MG4 should definitely be on your list to test drive! Thanks for the comment
I have eUp and I love it.
Great to hear
Thanks, models this size should get the most incentives, and car manufactures should be supported to produce more models this size, because they're a lot more sustainable compared to for instance a VW ID.4
100% agree
The other biggy is that the insurance is dead cheap on these
What puts me off EVs is that because I don't drive that often, I'm looking for something that's cheap to drive, cheap to insure and is reliable
The reliability issue is why I wouldn't want a Renault Zoe got example despite being very cheap and has an even bigger range
There's a reason why small cars sell well in European countries. We have public transport otherwise
Derek, great review - at last a small more affordable EV. Pity VW did not have time for a ground-up design but good effort., Maybe they should leave Skoda produce a ground-up Fabia type EV? I believe Chinese manufacturers will steal this market segment from the incumbents. Thanks, Eamon
BYD Dolphin is getting closer and closer
I love it. It looks exactly like the ICE version. Great sporty looking little city car.
Perfect for JM scooting around the place but stick a kayak on it and it would take off 😀
Great review mate
Thank you kindly
I have the Skoda Citigo e IV same car and have had it for nearly 3 years now…great car for a first EV I was looking to change it and have driven a MG and a Vauxhall Mokka E and apart from the size difference the little Skoda drives just as well as the bigger cars and I can’t really justify paying a lot more for not really much gain
Thanks Chas. Great to hear from actual owners
Great to see the "no frills" cars begining to arrive. The EV revolution continues to progress.
Agree with you Derek, this car is perfect for the town but if you had a choice, and considering the occasional long run, the MG4 might be a better car.
VW have loyalty and history but MG don't (yet). However I think this advantage that the legacy brands have is rapidly being eroded. For me dieselgate colours my view on VW so I'm not neutral.
As others commented on the attire I will not..... suffice to say the hoodie was well ironed. (now look what you started!)
Thanks Dereck your enthusiasm for the car is superb and VW will eagerly give you more cars to review. Keep up the good work.
DES
Thanks Des. The MG is a very good suggestion.
We traded our 2012 Up in for a new-old-stock 2021 e-Up and absolutely love it! On many days we get sub 12kWh/100km power consumption in Eco mode. It’s quick, quiet and the ride quality is of a more expensive car.
Great to hear from an owner. Exact same form factor right? Boot is the same size too isn't it?
We're currently getting between 8 and 10kwh per 100km. It's so efficient!
@@NevoEVReviewIreland yes same boot size plus a practical storage bin for the charging cable
I already loved the Up. e's a good!
e's even better!
We have had the Seat Mii version of this car in the UK for 18 months and they are excellent for a first EV. Great for short trips, not so good on the motorway as the charge use goes up and the max speed is 80mph, great acceleration from 0-30 though. My wife loves it, over here it's possible to get a 2-year old model with low miles for around £15K due to the electricity prices going up and it's a bargain at that price.
Good to know! Great to hear from an actual owner
I would love to see the coast to coast test! 😁
I do think the charge rate is a bit of a let down though, as a lot of smart meters only offer 2-3 hours of discounted electricity now that’s the difference between 7.2-10.8kWh vs 14-21kWh with a more widespread 7kW single phase. Might be a problem for those with longer daily commutes to charge enough over night
This is the solid argument that I used to see for 3-phase inboard chargers that only the Renault Zoe, Smart ForTwo ED and Teslas get. That's as far as I know, would love to know if there's any more.
They're still the majority of public chargers that we have in Ireland. Really weirdly for Ireland it was actually planned and built in anticipation of future EV numbers at the local level.
But what use is having a nifty little EV that can suck back 20kW in about an hour when most EVs now have type-2 chargers with 3.6 to 10.ish kW? Especially the norm of bigger thirstier cars, they would do better with fast 3-phase AC.
Truth is most manufacturers won't take that into consideration with which markets they're selling to.
Thanks for the comments both. I agree with you on an improved charging AC speed. I'd even like an option to pay for an upgrade
It would be perfect for me. I like the handbrake and the fact that you can use a phone with an app.
I love it very much
perfect little car for the city. this will do for 95% of the folks living in cities, not the big ugly LR defenders . One thing that I tend to do while watching your videos is identify the route that you are driving. Its LIke an interesting guessing game for me
Ha ha, I need to vary my routes moving forward
@5:26 Just because a light is not LED doesn't mean its Halogen. I think you meant incandescent - ie light via heat (not as efficient as LED). Or just say non-LED. Great review of a very tempting EV.
Apologies Anthony, you are correct. Non-led from now on
Great to see small cars, need to convince more people to start with their 2nd car to drop kids to school, this would be ideal. Would still prefer the id2 concept which I'm waiting on to downgrade from my id3.
Love the dash buttons, old fashioned but what I'd like rather than fiddling with a touch screen while on bumpy road.
The ID.2 does look great in fairness. Really looking forward to seeing it.
Having one of these motors for 18 months I can realiably say it's more like sub 30kW DC charging most of the year. 3.2kW single phase, 6.8kW on three phase. Eco mode limits the top speed to 120kph. Eco+ to 90kph.
Thanks for the comment and as always, great to hear from actual owners
Die maximale Ladeleistung beträgt je nach ladestand 1C = 36,8kw. Im Schnitt je nach ladebereich bewegt man sich zwischen 22-25kw. Sinnvoll ist 20-70%. Der up kann nicht dreiphasig laden. Er zieht jeweils 16a pro Phase und das auf maximal zwei. Das sind 3,680kw pro Phase. Bei Ladung über AC genehmigt sich das Fahrzeug anscheinend ca 100w. Mit einer Codierung kann man anscheinend auch 32 über eine Phase ziehen ich rate aber davon ab. Die verschiedenen modis limitieren nicht nur die Geschwindigkeit, sondern die Leistungsaufnahme des Motors und unter anderem auch der Heizung. Im Winter sehr zu empfehlen! das Fahrzeug aufzuheizen und dann im eco Modus losfahren.
I have the 2016 model, it is brillant 🤩 The 210 nM insane torque makes the front wheels 🛞 slip. Solution: softer rubber = I use winter tires all year long and thank god I have a headrest, the acceleration is insane, you feel the G force 😂 One point overlooked in the video is the instant freewheeling/Max Regen function switching hidden in the shift stick, you need to pull it back to switch back and forth between modes, it is brilliant as you can accumulate kinetic energy on a downward road in freewheeling at good speed rate and switch max regen instantly before the curve. This is better than slow down going in one pedal mode as you will go slow and annoy petrol heads behind you.
I did overlook that! Thanks for pointing it our John, great to hear from actual owners!
Das durchdrehen der Reifen hatte ich nur mit den schmalen 14 Zoll.
Cheap and cheerful, perfect for around town. Just disappointing most people want more these days. Here in Australia buyers have historically been chasing the US style, bigger is better, so this one would be unlikely to sell in decent quantities here.
Reminds me of the old Leyland Mini with those rear windows and body coloured interior exposed metal.
I loved it did I mention? 🤣🤣 Thanks for the comment
I love the e-up! We need more cars like this! Can we actually still buy this car in England? I was under the impression it was a gonna?🤔
It's back baby. You lucky ducks also get the SEAT and SKODA small EVs, we get only thing for the moment
I wonder if they’ll be bringing out the e-by gum! to join the e-up! especially for the Yorkshire market!
Not sure what happened there. This car was definitely made for the Yorkshire market!
A good review.
Thank you
It is what it is an it does what it says on the tin
Exactly!
This can charge at 7kw just needs to be setup in the app, I believe
Oh, interesting
I have one in denmark i drive alle year 166km a day in winter time it can only do this with around 40km left :) now it have runned 60000km :) love it bigtime 😊
In sunmer time i have around 120km left
Thanks for sharing. Great to hear from owners
Hello. I recently purchased an E Up and so far its looking to be quite efficient. I'd like to try it on a east coast to south west road trip and was wondering if you're going to do a coast to coast review of it at any stage. Thanks
I've asked for the car again. Will let you know.
Love the look of these. It could even be cheaper if it was more basic. Would the MG4 base model be a better option?
Probably 🤔
These cars have become excellent value. Due to collect a new one in Kings Red Metallic for 17500 euro in Feb 2024. Very hard to get any new car at this price, let alone an EV. Not for everyone but an ideal second car for most people.
Ah where did you find that? Cheapest I can see is €20k. Still great but better if you can share the joy?
@@gamertrojan4038 In Dublin with Frank Keane VW. Not sure if they've any left . Delighted with our car so far
VW should explain to us why Ireland doesn't get the Skoda and SEAT sisters to the eUP! which happen to be considerably cheaper than what we only get in Ireland.
Market size?
They only make the E-Up! Now.
Das Problem war das zu geringe Kontingent. Seat und Skoda wurden dann nicht mehr bedient und vw hob die Preise auf bis 30 000€
Osram and Phillips now has led for almost every car that has the old H4 and H7 bulbs. Just replacing them like that. And yes they are street legal. The lights are white and way better than the original H4.
how long does the Battery live usually on an EV?
and does the car require regular service as an EV?
I love this car, this is a drivers car. It has a normal style gear selector and a real handbrake.
But the range lets it down and the fact it has too many doors, small cars look silly as a five door.
Then there's the price, it is a little high, if they fixed the range so it gets 200 to 250 miles and deleted the rear doors it would be worth the full price, maybe even an extra 5 grand.
If they removed the back doors and maybe optioned a second battery pack that goes in the boot floor and gives an extra 40 to 50 miles it would finish this car off.
Great points all round. Maybe the ID.2 or ID.1 will sort this out. Thanks for the comment
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Welcome and I hope.
Looks good, but is that more expensive than an MG4 SE SR? 🤔 Surely, the MG4 would be a better option than an E-Up? 🤔
Agree MG4 appears better value but VW followers might not agree.
And could be down to availablity. Interesting to see residual values coming into play in 3 years time too
e-Up. Translate to Hello outside Lancashire
😁🤣
Nice car but still too expensive at 27k for a city runabout. A one litre Suzuki Swift is 10k less than this and you would get a lot of kms for 10k in a Suzuki. So green issues apart very hard to justify that outlay for a tiny car.
A price adjustment is definitely welcome but until there's competition, status quo will remain
The e-UP since it was first sold in 2014 had a miserable battery, it was some time ago when it had the upgraded 36kWh, either battery it was a window into the limitations of choice that Irish people would get to know. The eUP had a surprise reboot in 2020 when its cease for production was cancelled because of the demand across Europe for an entry level EV VW.
Often it has made me really scrutinise how unreliable and unnecessarily hard it is getting the variety cars that are more needed as a whole, what's available in different countries (in the same commercial market no less)
...instead what we're familiar with is the little variety of choice away from the constant arms race for bigger, posher, faster, heavier, etc.
Imagine existing cars now and then years ago being converted. Like if Fiat made an electric Panda, or if Citroën made an electric C3 Cactus or Picasso
Thanks for the comment
Still too expensive for what it is. Second hand ice car twice the size for half the price i will take any day. I hope evs do catch on but it wont be any time soon with these prices
It's a little on the pricey side I'll agree
For a small bit extra you get the entry level MG4 with bigger range and more spec. This is about 5k overpriced IMO.
Bang on mate just under £26k for Mg4 se ..nearly double the range
Yes think MG4 would be my choice
The MG4 is a great option too if you could get it 😁
@@simonbcity Real-world range is MG4 is approximate 190 miles and in this car is approx 130 miles. Of course if it's very cold and you're driving fast those ranges would go lower.
@@RobP0202 personally I do not see the mg4 as a city car it is not in the same segment and therefore does not have the same use
VW have a problem! This is their best EV, but it makes small profit (if any?), a 'city car' that is great anywhere in Ireland and UK is just what almost anyone needs.
Agree! I really love it. I hope the ID.2 is as good
Yes this is more like it. EV's are more likely to be your everyday second car. This works for me. Its a bit pricy as are most VWs but its a very good starting point.
More affordable EVs to come!
I'd prefer it to be my every day primary car. The VW e up still satisfied that requirement.
Considering VW is talking about a sub-25 K ev, this doesn't bode well for their ambitions. It's far too expensive for a small car and tbh it strikes me as an attempt to test markets.
Thanks Tom. Legacy EV and not on a dedicated EV platform. Sub 25k EV will never be achieved in Ireland with the double taxation in my options but for a sub 30k car, I was very impressed with quality and spec.
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Can not understand why EV's are not exempt from tax and the lost revenue attached to ICE. Oh and the same for all low to zero-carbon options, solar panels, heat pumps, ect.
The 130 miles of range and 'fast' charging speed of nearly an hour for this size of a battery are a dealbreaker for me. I cannot justify nearly 30-grand for this in Ireland. If it had real-world range of 250 miles and faster charing (7kW and 77kW) then it may be a different conversation. Yes, it's a small EV, but not everyone of us can afford two cars, so we need more range. Some of us are a lot further from the airport. A used longer-range EV is the better option for the majority of us at this point. If it was small but practical then that would be something, but there are too many compromises for the price. In ten-fifteen years time people will laugh at the idea of buying a car for nearly €30K in Ireland with just 130 miles of range.
It's early days in the EV space right now; your money is better going toward a different car. Not even a screen for the infotainment-needing to use your own phone is cheeky, and not in a good sense.
Thanks for the comment and feedback. It definitely won't work or suit everyone, that's for sure.
I really like the trio of cars Vw group made but the new price is foolish. As a used buy around £11k it makes a lot of sense.
Limitations on fast charging due to no active battery cooling limit its use case but gor s lot of people it's a very good starter EV for shorter slower commutes.
Wiper noise what is it with VWs , my T-Roc is horrendous my previous Tiguan was the the same the only thing that will cure it is aftermarket Bosch blades at about £40 there not cheap .😢
Apologies Terry, I should not have recorded it in the rain 😬
Wax from car washes is the main cause.
Ideal car , small , good range , but were these car not about 19k a couple of years ago ! Greedy vw !!!!!
Thanks Richard. Prices have definitely gone up for sure
Im sure the children killed in mining cobalt for your battery will be thrilled to know you love it.
Thankfully reputable manufacturers have very ethical supply chains along with the upcoming battery passport tracking where they came from and go to. A number of battery manufacturers are going cobalt free www.transportenvironment.org/discover/batteries-vs-oil-comparison-raw-material-needs/