Assassin's Creed: Rogue - The Ultimate Critique - Luke Stephens
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- Assassin's Creed: Rogue is a standout title for many reasons. While it tried flipping the formula on its head by giving you control of a Templar, it fails to stick the landing. Partly because the game released alongside Unity and partly because it was essentially an expansion to Black Flag, it simply did not stand out and was forgotten as a result. Today we look at the game and franchise and we'll try to determine what the game meant for Assassins Creed moving forward.
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I remember I was walking past a civilian who was sitting down and I pressed square to see if Shay hits his fists together like Connor did in ac3 cause I used to love walking around doing that and feelings like a tough guy so when I did it in this game. Shay kicked the civilian in the face instantly and I died laughing because it was so unnecessarily brutal and I didn't even get a warning about shay not killing civilians
Because Shay is a Templar
That's the most confusing part about Rogue.
Shay left the Assassin's because the Creed was sacrificing innocent civilians for their behalf, but you can kill them in the gameplay without the warning. The only thing that happens is that you gain a notority and bounty hunters come after you. But that's about it, it's a normal thing to expect when you kill civilians, btw.
Also, saying he is a Templar is not a good excuse. Again, he left the order because innocents were dying.
You are a guy i would talk all day about AC
Daniel Meurer You could also kill innocents as Ezio. I'm sure irl Shay didn't go around killing innocents.
Shisha CEO yes, but you would get the message saying that Ezio didn't killed innocent, and if you'd too much, you would be desync. That's my point.
I kinda felt like you talked circles around the game and never actually talked about the game in any detail beyond the back cover. Most of it was just making comparisons.
"The ultimate critique"
That’s like how all of his videos are. This guy sucks
@@bilbobeuli his Ac Unity, Origins and especially Black Flag videos are phenomenal. Probably the best on the games. What are you on about?
@@danielz-v4083 He is aunable to write a coherent script. Every single one of his videos is just him talking in circles wihtout anything of interest ever being mentioned. This guy has no clue how to review anything.
GOffensive hey some of his videos have big flaws such as this one but the other videos are phenomenal.
Dude, you talked about Rogue for like 20% of this video.
Honestly Rogue was one of my favorite AC games to date, up there with Brotherhood. I thought Shay was a good anti-hero and it was cool to go through his journey as an Assassin-turned-Templar.
It's good
I think it was shit
I really enjoyed it!
Lol
@@Memu_ a true assasian fan will play every assasian game
If the Templar’s and Assassins are basically swapped out in Rogue’s conversational cutscenes, might that imply that the two organizations are themselves basically the same
Maybe it's the power of their truest belief in their cause. Both passionately believe they're in the right and the other is wrong. This theme is present in every single conversation that you have as a member of the Creed or a Templar. It's something really wonderful, and perhaps the most important reason why subconsciously everyone's so involved and intrigued in the story despite a lot of missteps.
Sorry for the late reply 😂
If Rogue is a "cash grab". Then i guess so is Brotherhood and Revelations.
Rogue was not perfect. But you missed the whole point of its story. It wasn't supposed to give you a perspective of the Templars and how their ways of going about things are wrong but understandable. It was about showing how different eras, different times, are what shapes people. In this time the Assassin's are arrogant idiots, and many of them no different than thugs as they make life difficult for people in New York. And meanwhile the Templars were the heroes. Because the times demanded this of them. They still wanted power underneath it all. As shown in the ending how Haytham commands Shay to recover the box.
This basically shows us that it is the individual that defines the Templar Order, or the Assassin's Creed. They represent an equilibrium: Peace comes at a cost, and too much peace can bring chaos because people demand freedom. And too much freedom destroys peace.
Yeah actually Shay was more a pragmatist. The Assassins disrespected and disregarded his assertions on the whole artifacts being dangerous. The Templar's saved him and believed him right off the bat. It is funny in Ezio trilogy the Assassins worked with mercenaries and thieves who hurt the people just the player was not shown the harm. Rogue lays it all out to the players, the Assassins are terrorists(Kessegowase burning Albany, Ezio starting a riot in the Constantinople Arsenal, ) who support chemical weapons( New York), extortion and smuggling ( everywhere). Also they show preference to France for some reason.
That's correct. Brotherhood and (especially) Revelations are cash grabs.
Brotherhood should have been an expansion, not standalone game. And Revelations doesn't have any excuses.
yeah all good what u just said. but thanks for the spoiler. im currently playing rogue. and its an amazing game.
I didnt play any of these AC. But yeah, I feel like Brotherhood and Revelations are both cash grabs too
@@kimba4962 lol tf are you talking about? Both brothers and revelations are great games .
AC: Rogue is still the only AC game I have 100% sync on, I fckn love this game
Honestly I am going to make it 100% sync too. Did ac3 remastered as well.
Same
Origins for me is my all time favorite ac game
Best games in the series. AC2, Brotherhood, AC4, Rogue and Origins
How could you do that ?? I played the game twice (and the second time I tried to do more side-activities) but I ended giving up .I have to respect you for having such patience to do that. In my opinion, there were so many collectibles and the map is so boring, that I don't see any interest of completing it 100%. Personally, I prefer Unity because it's more diverse and breathtaking (in top 3 personal favorite AC games with ACII and Brotherhood).
I wish when they redid rogue, they added more sequences. It's so awesome but also too short. Shay Kormac is the best assassin ever. His heightened senses are better than most, too
You forgot to mention it doesn't have tailing missions or forced stealth sections unlike Black Flag which makes it automatically the better game.
100% this.
The stealth missions in AC4 were absolute garbage, the worst missions ever in the franchise, ruining an otherwise amazing game.
Wow I thought about getting black flag , but I hate that crap so now I won't waste my time or money THANKS!
What's this? Stealth in an Assassin's Creed game? Preposterous
Pirahna 01 Ikr! I actually wish they would just make stealth missions, like Hitman does, because the combat in Assassins Creed is so easy now a days. What’s the point of being stealthy in a game where you can just spam the B button to counter your way to victory?
You talk way too much about the same things. Instead of getting to the point you went on 5 to 6 minute tangent on simply this, "Ubisoft made too many games and didn't take enough time to polish the games. Players became burned out for several reasons, glitches being one."
This review is the embodiment of the phrase “talking loudly, but saying nothing”
Agreed. I usually like Luke a lot but with this one after awhile I had to wonder what he was actually trying to say with this review.
I'm 9 minutes in and he's not even talking about Rogue.
Yep. Don’t waste your time on this clown. There are better reviewers out there.
This isn't even a review
I think it’s fine. It’s more of an overall commentary on AC than the typical “the graphics are great on Xbox” review.
I mean the setting itself is worth a play, I love the North Atlantic area with new animals to hunt and new areas to uncover. That alone makes it one of my favourite ac games and has sooo much replay value for me
10 minutes in and i realized you had barely talked about the game. Dont be so long winded.
I wish you had comment something about the settings (the North Atlantic, the Arctic, River Valley...) and how it makes the player to feel the atmosphere. For me that was the best part of the game.
AC3 has my favorite setting, and black flag my favorite gameplay. Rogue combines the two. That’s why it’s my favorite game in the series.
renaissance Italy was the best setting they've ever made but in my opinion assassin's creed 3 had the best game play and the animations were really well done
British and Scottish people against other British people is your favorite setting ?
@@danielcastaneda4975 Italians against italians is your favorite setting? Arabs against arabs is your favorite setting? Italian against arabs is your favorite setting? Egyptians against Egyptians and Romans? What about greeks against greeks?
Yeah all of them have the same name. then the british became "americans"
Just like the Greeks became Romans at some point.
I think playing Rogue before Black Flag really changed my perspective of this game. Rogue was and still is a personal favorite of mine. Shay's experience of switching sides seemed so intense that I was engrossed in the storyline and loved it past the very end. I understand that it's kind of a cookie cutter mold for an Assassin's Creed title within the dialogue switched around, but that wasn't enough to turn me away from the game overall. I also thought that Rogue took full advantage of the last gen consoles' abilities. In the end, what was your overall opinion of Shay's character? He was a major contributor to my personal love for the game. Great critique!
baileygirl99 He is so well made.. And i love his Irish accent
+baileygirl99 I actually liked Shay's character. I love how him being a Templar doesn't automatically make him hate the Assassins, as he still saw some of them as his comrades when he killed them. That's shown the most when he killed Hope and Liam.
I also played this game before I played Black Flag which is why i preferred it i think. It didn't feel the same because I hadn't touched AC4 and had a better story so I would definitely recommend
I played BF first and glad I did. It taught me the base mechanics so when I played Rogue I was ready.
With this game and AC4 (with DLC) launching together as one game (60 dollars) on the Switch , I am trying to learn a bit from both. Which should I play first guys? Rogue or Black Flag? I know Rogue was the latter to come but I am just wondering if playing it chronologically may affect my experience negatively . Perhaps playing Rogue (the "worst one" for the majority) and they BF might be better? I want some feedback please :)
I liked it much better than Black Flag actually. If only for the absence of the craps mission of ear dropping so omnipresent in Black Flag
I don't agree with this critique to be honest.
I love Rogue because for me, it fixes everything that made me hate Black Flag. It's more in line, feeling and gameplay wise, with AC3 than Black Flag, even though it's basically all the systems from Black Flag upgraded in one way of another (minus the diving bell sections)
And it's really possible to really like Black Flag and to hate Rogue.
There is no correlation between the two to be honest when it comes to showing "mathematically" if a person likes "a, they will also like b", because Black Flag and Rogue are vastly different in quite a lot of aspects
What I liked about Rogue is the way they approached islands, in BF they boasted about having the largest map yet, but every island location is just a small zone, yes you have all of Cuba, but you can actually go to like 3 spots in there, while in Rogue (Mostly in the River Valley) you get to a town and you can cross to the other side of the island, or even explore the whole island, you get a full frontier with many locations
Over the last year or so I’ve been playing every main assassin’s creed game in order. To this point in the series the gameplay in Rogue is really the best! In fact I think the only lackluster thing about this game is the main story was so short. But i think it took everything from black flag and improved on it. The graphic improvement is really good. The environments are fantastically done! I still do like black flag a bit better just cause I found the story a bit better but I would still put this one number 3 behind Black flag and brotherhood. Gameplay wise number 1 though. Very entertaining and plenty to do. 9.5/10
Bro ur lying out ur ass black flag is better the ship in this game better but the gameplay is literally the exact… same at times worse getting on ships the gameplay is lazy missions glitch so much having to restart etc
I'm playing Rogue now, for the first time, after playing Black Flag. I liked BF (except for the main quest missions), but I think I like Rogue more. It's like someone took all my favorite parts from the previous games and put them into one game. It had a good naval combat, but also settlement development, base capturing and so on. The exploration is cool too.
How do u like black flag but not the story missions💀💀💀yeah there was a lot of tailing missions so i understand that but ur comnment makes no sense bruh
@@rayortiz3060 tailing missions are like 70 percent of the main story.
Rouge is well worth your time. Most polished AC on last gen period. Game plays great, story is basic but intriguing.If you still have your trusty ps3 or 360, pick it up. You'll thank yourself.
There is the remaster that just came out so now you can play in on the current gen as well
It is also backwards compatible on the X1.
it's on PC too
play it on pc
Switch
This game even tho short was awesome. Rogue was a fresh take and playing as a Templar was awesome.
When he keeps aiming for the sails in Black flag instead of the actual boat
Honestly after origins rogue is my secone favourite in the series , third being black flag.
I know the ship gameplay is mostly the same, but for what it's worth, Storm Fortress is easily one of the most intense and great ship battles in either game.
I finished the hero ships in bf but still having trouble with storm fortress
I really liked playing as a templar for the first time
Okay but when has anyone in the franchise called the Assassin Brotherhood the "Assassin;s Creed"?
yea Creed doesn't mean "group", seems like he doesn't get this
Bayek from ac origins did
+Gregory Tay No, he spoke about "our creed", but never called the group "the Assassin's Creed", or any such thing.
I think Achilles says that in AC 3 when he talks about the Creed to Connor for the first time. I might be wrong though.
The group has always been mentioned as either the brotherhood or just the assassins. The Creed is just the guidelines they follow.
I love this game but I do find it bizarrely strange that they don't utilize Charles Lee outside of the cutscene where Shay becomes a Templar
You forgot that they released Syndicate before they took a break and worked on Origins xD
no. he just said it led them to eventually take a 2 year break. he didn't say there wasn't another game after Unity ;)
they worked on origins already when they were working on syndicate. Its Multi tasking bruh, i know... its a pretty rare thing in the youtube community
@@GregorioStyreco they still took a year out to polish origins after syndicate
I don't remember much regarding this game other than how emotional it was, and how empathetic I felt towards Shay.
Lie Ren same
Hey Luke, I personally, contradictory to your verdict, thought that the narrative was the least of Rogue's accomplishments. In my honest opinion Rogue's true value comes from its improvement of Black flag's more lackluster elements such as truly appreciable visual variety between environments, enjoyable "stalking" missions, a mood setting background score, bespoke fortresses and finely tuned naval combat. Rogue was more "fun" (as hard as that term is to objectively define) than Black Flag as I experienced it and I often recommend it to friends as the Black Flag experience they don't know they need. If anything, it was the unconvincing screenplay and abruptly shifting character motivations in Rogue that held it back imo. Anyway, great review as always, keep up the good work!
I'll be honest here. Of all the narratives each Assassin's Creed game had, Black Flag's was the one that stood out the most, at least to me. Whereas most of the other games revolved around the main character being an Assassin motivated by justice or revenge against the Templars (Altair, Ezio, Connor, Arno, etc.), Black Flag revolved around the main character being a privateer motivated by money, wealth, and easy-living, and he didn't consider joining the Assassins until the very climax of the game.
To me, this is actually an interesting change of narrative pace, and as a result, it makes Edward Kenway stand out as a unique protagonist of the franchise. Compared to Altair, Ezio, Connor, and Arno, who felt like characters whose characterizations served the story, Edward felt like a character who made the story serve him. The other protagonists were written to be brave and noble, whereas Edward was written to be human.
Make no mistake, though. This isn't to take away from how the other protagonists were portrayed in their respective games. I'll always have a special place for Ezio in my heart, and I did enjoy Connor's arc throughout AC3. However, when you look at their stories from a bare-bones lens, you have to admit that they do rely on some narrative tropes that are common in most media. Edward, by comparison, doesn't seem to fit that mold, and that's a good thing.
I think Rogue is a fantastic game. You say that this game missed the opportunity to flesh out the templars and that you could just change the title "templar" for "assassin", and/or vice versa, and still have the same result; you criticize that there are no major differences in the way assassins and templars operate. I believe that that right there is actually the point of the game. To explicitly show that the difference between both organizations is, in essence, only ideological rather than operational. Who knows, maybe I'm giving the writers too much credit for their laziness, but I am convinced that is what they were trying to show us. That in the end, the rivalry between Assassins and Templars boils down to a difference in opinion, and that the way both organizations work is the same; there is no right or wrong side here. Both organizations are working for the good on mankind and societies, as inspired by their beliefs. And both organizations have been full of both good and bad people throughout history. It makes so much sense to me.
This game was pretty good. Yeah you are right it is more for the fans. The setting though is one of the best. Gazing at the Northern Lights on an iceberg is a sight to behold.
One detail I love about Rogue is when entering a restricted area when Assassin's normally pull up their Hoods, Shay pulls up the Collar of his Trench Coat (I don't know if his Templar Outfit is actually a Trench Coat but I call it that simple because it's so damn cool) also I love the Outfits in the game, best in the series in my opinion, personal favs are Assassin Killer, Templar Outfit, Templar Master, and Sir James Gunn armor.
I liked gameplay of Black Flag, but I didn't like the story accompanying it, nor the characters. At least Rogue has interesting angle in that reguard.
Your assessments are divine. Keep it up
Genuinely the best part of my week when there's a new critique out
And there is also god of war :)
I completely agree
Rogue story is one of my favorite's in the AC universe... Too bad not many people knew about it... Great review👍😉 the end of Rogue was the prequel to Unity...
Hey man! Great analysis you have here! I am a big fan of the Assassin's Creed Series and I really enjoy high analysis game videos so your channel has definitely been a welcome surprise for me when I came across it! I do feel, however, that you tend to spend good chunks of the video merely summarizing the events of the game, which is kind of pointless to some degree since most people who have seen the video have already played the game anyway. I know that the focus of the analysis is the story (and when you add on story that is not from the game- such as the excellent story prologue of Edward Kenway's life that you put in your AC4 critique- it makes it more worthwhile to watch) so I just personally feel that minimizing the emphasis on plot summary may make the video flow better and my make it more relevant for those who have already played the game. Hope you continue what you're doing as it is a very entertaining watch indeed for a fan such as myself :)))
Assassin's Creed Rogue Remastered is a good game.
I played AC4 for around 300 hours. So I liked it a wee bit! However I played rogue for over 450 hours. It is superior in one way only...they don't keep shoving those damn ease dropping missions through a heavily populated fort down your throat. AC4 was better graphically as well as mechanically, BUT Rogue has better game-play. I didn't like the Ass Creed part of Black flag, so this was a welcome change.
On a side note- Because of AC4 I went back and played, 3, Syndicate as well as revelations. These games brought me into the series. I am thankful for that.
I always considered shay as more of an assassin even when he was in the templar order. He held the assassins values way better than the assassins because they became corrupt like the very thing they were initially fighting.
With this game and AC4 (with DLC) launching together as one game (60 dollars) on the Switch , I am trying to learn a bit from both. Which should I play first guys? Rogue or Black Flag? I know Rogue was the latter to come but I am just wondering if playing it chronologically may affect my experience negatively . Perhaps playing Rogue (the "worst one" for the majority) and they BF might be better? I want some feedback please :)
Love your analysis on this series! Rogue has always been a favorite of mine. Glad to see it being talked about. Just one random question though, by "Need for Speed film" did you mean "Fast and Furious film?" NFS just had one movie I think lol.
Hey man, great video so far (only 10 minutes in and I have class now). Just wanted to say the time stamps aren't in the description box.
I’ve always felt that if Ubisoft would have made Rogue for XboxOne instead of 360 and released it in 2014 instead of Unity then both Rogue and Unity would have been better.
I’d love to see a critique for Bioshock:Infinite and the Dishonored series. Thanks for the awesome vids!
Where the hell did that 5min god of war comparison come from?
Rogue and Unity are both criminally underrated. What a rough year for the AC franchise.
Great video as always but you forgot the time stamps in the description, my dude.
Great review mate. The only thing stopping me from picking it up now is the fact that Origins gameplay has spoiled me for AC games now. I’m not sure I could revert to the old mechanics and gameplay elements.
This game has the most badass outfit out of any AC game, the Assassin Killer outfit.
Honestly wouldnt mind an assassins creed ultimate critique were you do the rest of the games, seems like you're passionate about them and would like to hear you opinions on the others
The older I get the more I sympathise with the Templars
Heya, Luke. I just finished description and in-video subs into Spanish. I know it took a long time since this video was published, but consider this as a present for congratulating that your channel reached silver status. Hopefullt, it'll help and boost you with your SEO. I know it's not the same as payin on Patreon, but it's a work that has its value in ranking on Google and TH-cam itself. Keep on! :)
Im gonna be honest; I never played black flag. That said rogue may be one of my favorite AC games, I personally just enjoyed the story and game overall compared to most of the other games in the series.
Him: Lets's talk about Assassin's creed Rogue And how was the game.
Also Him: See guys, I don't care about the game or it's feel, So let's just compare it.
In terms of gameplay, rogue improves on black flag significantly in all areas
Rogue and Black Flag are my favourite AC games... And I played both Unity and Rogue.. Unity wasn't as buggy as everyone says.. But Rogue.. Ahh, that WAS an awesome game!
Wish they made it with unity graphics. A bit of a longer storyline. 2 of the Assassin's had the same type of death. Which could have been a bit better. Played unity few months ago. Really liked that one too.
I jumped from mission to mission and honestly I quite enjoyed it. I don't feel like playing it ever again but I'm glad I did
Great video
I actually did not like Black Flag, but I really enjoyed Rogue.
You rogue.. I'm still tryin' to make up my mind about the game. Might be too similar to Black Flag.
By far my favorite AC, especially in contrast with Black Flag
Have you considered doing an TUC on Dishonered 1/2 & Death of The Outsider?
I dislike Black Flag and love Rogue. I dislike the pirate theme, I dislike the overabundance on ship missions and ship combat and I hate that all the assassin missions are "follow guy, don't be detected" and Rogue combines what worked in 3 with what worked in 4 and I don't even mind the ship stuff in that one as it wasn't so much ship stuff^^
Much of the same case for me. I didn't even play black flag because of the pirate theme. Not a fan of the ships aswell but there wasn't a lot of it in rogue and it was not annoying. What sticks to me the most is the connection between rogue and unity. Goddam I loved it when I recognized the palace. One question though, have I missed out on much by not playing black flag? Since I have the oppurtunity to play it, because I got it on the ubi birthday shit.
One critique I have is that the distance between Albany and Mount Vernon, Albany is in New York and Mount Vernon is in Northern Virginia.
Off topic, but uh, I love how in syndicate when you run your horse and carriage into a tree, not only is the horse completely unaffected, but how flares comes out as if metal was grinding. Thanks Ubisoft.
I saw this game on the back of the shelves at datablitz, its cheap so i bought it, and i never regret getting it
I don't think we played the same game. I feel that AC as a series can have bland adversaries. It's like you said, with Rouge it feels like we swapped bad guys in red with bad guys in blue and it was more of the same. Im sure the budget for this game was a lot smaller than a main line title and for that reason they could have taken some risks. It's dissapointing that they took so few.
Yes. Always like to learn more.
I've completely missed this Assassin's Creed game, lol :D
your channel is so underrated ... thanks for this
Can you please play and do a critique/review of The Evil Within 2. I am playing it now and think it’s great, so I would love to hear your thoughts on it.
Now that brings us to assassins creed Rogue... *Starts playing Black Flag*
i think you forgot to mention that it was recently rereleased onto current gen.
Okay, so if I'm a gaming publisher and I want to make a "cash grab", I don't go out and waste the resources making an out of date game for out of date hardware. In no feasible sense can Rogue be considered a pre meditated cash grab because there were absolutely no indications that this game would be successful in the time and state of its release.
That AC soundtrack though. Shit is fire.
Bloodlines is my drug and Austin Wintory is the shit
Rogue was my one of my favorites but assassins creed 2 was also really good too. The first one and the black flag were also my favorites.
Damn, I need to reinstall Rogue and start up another new game again man, I remember that I loved this version just because it had this darker Free Masonry/Illuminati/Templar feel to it, and you were basically an assassin who hunted other assassins which is the dopest sh*t I ever heard of lol as far as making a gamer feel like an elite badass. Then most of the map felt like Alaska or something with its cold harsh Skyrim like setting, and I was fully sold on this game after I played that first artifact retrieval mission that had you entering a small city to grab some underground secret artifact or something, which ends up triggering the world's craziest booby trap as the entire damn city starts collapsing in on itself. You end up sprinting and jumping from crumbling building to building trying to outrun all the collapsing mayhem, and eventually the street below you heaves upwards, cracks apart, and reveals a hidden hallway/space below ground level with black and white tiled floors all the way down the hallway that you then need to sprint all the way down etc. etc. (black and white tiling is a nod to Free Masonry in the game). I love conspiracy theory type documentaries online about Free Masons, Illuminati, and all that jazz so once the game started including those vibes I was like yuuuuuup this is my jam fo sho. Never beat this game though, so I def. need to revisit this bad boy.
There';s no timestamp in the description....
To me this was the best ac game in the past gen, not story wise obviously but this game had things from the ezio trilogy and the kenway trilogy. It had the best of both worlds
I haven't finished the series, but I will go ahead and say that the Americas Saga (including Liberation) is my favorite era in the series. Yes, they expanded the god-awful optional objectives bullshit that irks my 100% playthrough obsession, but these games have one thing that make them superior to me over the others: all of that nature! I'm more of a loner nature person than I am a bustling city guy, so I prefer to dick around in forests, swamps, and caverns than twisting city streets. I often come to Assassin's Creed to blow off steam and muck around the world rather than stress myself out in main story mission. These four games delivered lots of wilderness exploration for me, so I'm super happy with them.
You might not be surprised that Revelations is my least favorite. Constantinople is basically all city from one end of the map to the other with barely any break. It's too claustrophobic. I frequently played the Desmond and Clay journeys, not just because I liked them, but because I NEEDED a break in scenery that Constantinople couldn't provide. (Rome made MUCH better use of the singular overworld map; it's probably my favorite Ezio game, too, because of it.)
One of my favorites, but I really like them all so... still, yeah.
i agree with your comment that if you enjoy Black Flag youll enjoy Rogue, my only issue is; that Black Flag was available on current gen consoles while Rogue was only on PS3 and X360. so while they did add some extra new new mechanics it felt really bad to have the series going backwards in terms of smoothness and graphics. eventually il get around to replaying Rogue but its never been a priority.
I recently started replaying rogue and I found out that the game gets an amazing layer of challenge by removing the minimap, instead having to rely almost entirely on the in-game graphics.
The eagle vision became a useful tool on keeping tabs on enemies and targets, that wasn't overpowered since it would un-tag enemies who strayed too far.
With Black Flag I tried to up the challenge by playing without the SSI (Screen Space Indicator), thinking that it was what made the game too easy. But it broke the game in some ways (ship weakspots for example).
But back then I naively didn't consider that the mini-map was showing me too much information. A prime example being that it would show me whichever way enemies were facing, essentially working like a superior soliton radar, but without a lore reason being there.
Or when sailing in storms I would rather look at my minimap to spot water devils or rogue waves.
Disregarding the artistry of hundreds of artists working on the game.
Mini-maps are a disgrace to gaming.
They make players look away from amazing artistry, worsen the modern population's navigational retardation, make players dumber and make game designers lazy.
Rogue is one of the best AC games, given how strong the story is and how it's from a different point of view from all the other games. Shay is also a very compelling character to play as. Unity was lackluster and glitchy, only good for parkour.
the most underrated AC ever. I haven't plated AC for ages and few week ago I download both, Unity and Rouge.
I was able to play Unity for few days, then I deleted it. Compare to Rouge, which I'm playing 2 weeks already and it's still interesting to play
This guy will critique every game in the world besides fallout 3 lmao.
Tony Montana y so??
Because Fallout 3 is shit. New Vegas>Fallout 3
Just watch HBomberguys Fallout 3 vid. Its like the guys only good video...
lmao i did, i wanna see lukes version.
This. Nothing else to say. Fallout NV> Fallout 3> Fallout 1> Fallout 4
The Assassin’s aren’t terrorists, and the AC game’s give a reason to side with them over the Templar’s.
The game’s show corruption in some of the Templar’s.
There is some nuance, but generally AC is more pro assassin.
I think it’s an interesting idea to see things from the Templar’s perspective, though Rogue doesn’t always do the best jobs and given how they are shown in other games there’s only so much they can do.
I remember being grateful for this title as I hadnt leveled up to a current gen console yet. U might even call this the last traditional AC gameW/all of the best mechanics roled into one last ride. The gorgeous but abandoned Unity& underappreciated Syndicate appear as experiments before abandoning the formula almost entirely. Origins&Odyssy feel more like spiritual successors than prequels. And when is it, I wonder, that Ubisoft finally reveals that yeah, weve been playing as the villains the whole time or that both orders are totally fuct?
There’s a Ubisoft sale on Xbox right now and I think I’m gonna get originals and rogue remastered.
I like black flag, I gave rogue a try on 360 but it was very brief because I had picked it up from a redbox. So I’m very much looking forward to playing it.
My favorite part about AC Rogue is like you said, its a sequel to AC4 and a prequel for AC3. Currently i have finished AC4, and now im reading AC Forsaken. After that i will play rogue, then ac3 to understand everything alot better.
this game was connected to 3 different games AC4,AC3 and AC Unity
I really wish instead of going straight to the Templars and sticking there Shay would have realized both sides don’t seem fit for him and he was truly Rogue, not fighting for particularly anyone and was a man on his own. I get why they made it so he went with the templars because it’d be easy to give him the “cool buddies” almost every game has done so far, but I feel they could still pull off supporting roles that were on neither side also.
Why did you pronounce his name wrong (Atreus: a-tray-us)
may the father of understanding guide us ))
I strongly disagree. I think in some ways Rogue is better than AC4
Not in any grand ways but in the subtle ones.
Because the factions are interchangeable and the assassins are willing to kill innocent to further their cause it adds to the moral grayness.
The Templar role change adds meaning to feature bloat. AC games are stuffed
with features.
As a lone wolf assassin they made no sense, but as a templar working to gentrify a nation and build an empire. The money gathering, base libration, property renovation stuff works in that narative.
It humonized the templars a bit, they often felt like endless leagues of menichal bad guys, but in rouge there is subtle stuff about how the templars want to build a prosperous colony with laws and rules and safety.
The main critique of rogue is that it didnt focus on being a templar enough. Thats its biggest set back, it had a great opportunity to explore thinking on the otherside of thr coin. I was expecting cool templar bases and inductions, more questionable actions, a bittersweet ending. What we got was essentially the creed and the templars swapped, if we werent told we were a templar we mever would have known. Imagine the new templar game mechanics it could have explored as well.
Personal favorite game in the series. Favorite character I can sympathize with, a different story, one that's about revenge, yet not on the level of Watch Dogs.
One thing I disagree with is the story: you said it's the same as other games, and sure, it's similar, but not the same. Much as I like the Templars, overall, meaning every Templar group from the series, I don't sympathize with them. Shay really only joined the Templars because the Assassins decided that hundreds of lives, knowing they'd die, was better than letting the enemy get the artifact, and Shay disagreed with that