The batteries in my Peltor 300 exploded and 3M pretty much told me to f**k off since they were 4 months over the 1 year warranty and I only used them 5 times. Upgraded to these and looking forward to using them. Thank you for the video.
I just got mine and they're great! When turned off they don't block a huge amount of sound in the range of voices so you can actually be heard quite well despite perfectly blocking bullet sounds. When turned up to max they kind of improve your hearing of sounds form 2m away by 100% but sounds that are 10m away by 10%. It kinda feels as if they amplify the sounds that you could hear to begin with (which still is great!) but they don't exactly allow you the spy on the neighbours conversations. Haven't tried them with indoors shooting yet. BTW, they also work great when working with loud barking dogs and crying babies. ;)
@@noobienoobie6358 I got the new SFAs, and wow the extra attenuation is excellent. I don't feel like I need to double-up with plugs anymore. Easy enough to swap the cup extensions in and out, takes about a minute.
I got them and they work great! Outdoors, the dual microphones allows you to localize sounds JUST AS GOOD as you can without any protection. Indoors you can however get a bit disorganized since you arent used to hear every single tiny sound. It's however cool to hear the birds and other animals Outdoors. Birdwatchers should use these! HOWEVER, the amplification of the sound cuts off first at 82dB (equals to loud traffic) which is a bit uncomfortable since getting loud pops of sound during a long day at an otherwise quiet day at the range is tiresome. I usually turn them off while shooting and back on once the mag is empty. When shooting bigger than 9mm i would also always double up since they don't block enough for spending several hours with the bigger stuff. Also, as with all over ear protection, you can't wear a hat, glasses or similar since they create any gaps between your skin, or the effectiveness will seriously be reduced.
If the max amplification of 85dB is too much, you can just use a lower setting. You can also use eye pro with a thin frame to minimize the gap. Anyway, thanks for your comment on this video.
I'm naturally hard-of-hearing. Will I be able to hear voices at Volume 6? Normally I can hear voices fine with hearing aids. Do people wear hearing aids with these? If I can't hear voices with these I may as well go passive. Good review, thanks!
@@ReconBrothers I don't know. One is made by Sennheiser and the other by Audicus. I guess I could also ask them. The Sordin does not fit very well over my ears, especially with the BTE (behind the ear) hearing aids in. I'm worried I won't hear an RSO with the earmuffs and foamies underneath, but maybe I won't need the foamies at an outdoor range. Thank you!
Thank you for the comprehensive video! I've spent the last few hours piecing together this information by myself, wish I'd seen your video sooner. It would be really nice if there was a was to secure these onto a standard 3M hard hat, as I'd like to wear these to work, but the only options are for ARC adapters..
Thanks for the comment. Unfortunately these are made to only work how they come, even Sordin's ARC adapters are not meant for these but for their military versions solely. I Viper
Unity Tactical SARA Sordin adapters. They are meant to allow Sordins to be fitted to 3M/Peltor style helmet adaptors. The actual wires that come out and allow the ear cups to slide up and down are the exact same as the ones meant for ARC rails. I have 3M hard hat adaptors on my hard hat and the wire is the same thickness as the ones on my ballistic helmet and even has the same little flare at the end to prevent the ear cups from siding off. All you need to do is remove the 3m ear cups from the wires and then you can attach the sordins to them using the SARA adapters. Hope this helps!!!
they are quite small. im an average size male 5'10" 175 and I have to fully extend these and they still do not cover the lower ear lobe. All other ear pro fit fine can even extend to be too long for my head.
Had mine now for about 8 or 10 years. Peltor does not come close. I dont even remove them when range is made safe to go forward. My Gel Pads after these years now have started going as the black outer is starting to give in. But just ordered new gel pads.
I can’t believe Sordin hasn’t improved the battery compartment after all this time. It is the biggest complaint (for many) with the design. My Sordin Pro X from 2007 recently died, so I am looking to replace them.
I recently found a way via a TH-cam video and its a game changer. Get yourself the smallest possible hex key with a 90 degree turn. I mean the smallest you can get. You simply reach in between the notch of the battery + side and the inside on the compartment and push down. Boom out in no time.
I can't tell to be honest. Also wearing another set of earplugs underneath is not what they're made for. Don't know whether you will hear very well like that, since the volume can't be highered very greatly. I Viper
It is indeed weird to go to a music festival and try to block out as much sound as possible. I would look around for hearing protection (both active and passive) that's specifically made for live music.
i dont shoot but i am looking for a headset i can listen to music through, provide ear protection from a loud factory setting, and will allow voice to come through if im being called. will these be a good fit?
Second battery removal was easy with a small flat tip screwdriver. Installing second battery was finally achieved with a medium sized flat tip screwdriver used to push the end of the first battery down into place giving room to drop in the second battery. Not a great design but it is waterproof.
Great vids. Sordins or peltor? Im a bit lost on the high end ear pro. My old, OG peltors have been awesome., but wanna get into the higher end gear. TIA.
It still depends on personal preference but we prefer the slim headband version. Especially if you have a modular comfort pad system that allows you to remove comfort pads that would stack with the headband. This way there is basically no added pressure on your head.
That is my set-up for a few years now; MSA Sordin Supreme Pro X connect to a Code Red signal 21 speakermic with an aux cable. It works very well and highly recommend that setup
@@wijtzekaastra1398 so you the sordins would work with a shoulder do you hear the people over the radio in the headset or not an does the hearing protection still work
@@Starkiller_1710 yes all the sound is coming in via the headset. It doesn't affect the sound dampening capabilities. Meaning that you get the same effect as a normal headset, but your mic is located in your PTT instead of a boommic for half the price. Also if you unplug the headset you can still continue to communicate as now the sound is coming from the speakermic itself.
Picked up a pair of theese are they supposed to blast me with white noise when above volume 2? Also got a gel cup upgrade. Wich one one them fell off from the plastic that holds the cup in place. 😂 im such a lucky guy. Is any ammount of white noise normal on sordin supreme pro?
I would say it can be possible on the last volume. But certainly not as heavy as you describe on volume 2. Your issue with the gel kit is quite odd too. Did you get an MSA Sordin or a SORDIN?
Have you been able to test which style would offer the most comfort ease of use for prone positions under a ghillie? Didn't know if the behind the neck would get hung up or not.
Great review, but it seems that Sordin only makes Supreme Pro-X LED with a leather or cloth headband, no neckband models offered. Do you know if that will change anytime soon?
There are a ton of differences too much to write out, so best have a look at our other video where we cover the Mil CC: m.th-cam.com/video/TIv8A2JNk_s/w-d-xo.html ✌️ | Viper
No it is not possible according to Sordin, we've had lots of people ask this question and the headset doesn't feature the right technology to make it possible. I Instinct
I have seen Sordins on Vladimir Onokoy of Kalashnikov media in some of his videos on TH-cam, as well as on some of the people on Polenar Tactical. Maybe they wear additional plugs inside the earpro, but all in all it seems promising.
With actual gun fire: Indoors it's always recommended to wear ear plugs along with your headset, stated by Sordin themselves. Outside you would only need the headset.
I use them indoors. For 22lr it's fine. If somebody is using 9mm a few lanes away its okay. (May depend on size and acoustic of the range) But if I'm using 9mm or above I always use double protection indoors. Better safe then sorry especially for your ears.
@@JohnWeggo This is surprising, because I did not know this and I have used my Supreme Pro-X's (with gel cups upgraded) for a few years. The sound is some what loud when indoors (25m pistol range using 9mm ect. pistols and carbines) but I have never felt that it was too loud. Even with 8 other shooters in the lanes on either sidee.e However if Sording them selves say that you may need plugs, maybe it is true and I should do it next time I go to an indoor range. Funnily enough I failed to catch that info when I bought these, and I'm a safety & PPE nut my self.
Never used a swatcom, so I cannot tell. We do know that Sordin is the company that engineered this design that has been copied by many brands already. I Viper
Just bought a set of these and tried them out. Each gun shot has a weird echo sound to it. Is this normal? Or did I get a bad set? Sounds like a ringing through a metal pole or a laser from a movie... or the sound Link’s sword makes when you have all your hearts and it shoots the laser sword.
Hi, did you order over our store? If so can you write me an email so I can see what specific model you have and contact Sordin about this. Besides that, were you shooting indoor or outdoors? I Instinct
I even took the headband wrap off and they don't fit under my high cut helmet. edit: I actually got it to fit. Fits kind of snug but comfortable still.
@@ReconBrothers Escape from Tarkov has these exact ear pro model in the game and a lot of people like these ones the best as it has more bass which is better for hearing direction in the game, so naturally a lot of people are interested in finding out if they exist irl.
![ฮักเทื่อสุดท้าย - บอย ศิริชัย [OFFICIAL MV]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/-1PoPoQ-B-k/mqdefault.jpg)
I was literally just about to buy one
Did you? If not, why?
@@mikehawkswollen5819 I did and it was definitely worth it
@@antazur3983 thank you 👍. I'm on the fence
By far one of the best reviews on sordins and I just bought one thank you
Awesome to read this, thanks! ✌ | Viper
The batteries in my Peltor 300 exploded and 3M pretty much told me to f**k off since they were 4 months over the 1 year warranty and I only used them 5 times. Upgraded to these and looking forward to using them. Thank you for the video.
You're very welcome! Strange 3M didn't check the cause of the error though. Normally they want to research these situations. I Instinct
Let me guess, alkaline batteries?
@@ReconBrothers once I told them I bought them 15 months prior they had no interest on the phone.
I just got mine and they're great!
When turned off they don't block a huge amount of sound in the range of voices so you can actually be heard quite well despite perfectly blocking bullet sounds.
When turned up to max they kind of improve your hearing of sounds form 2m away by 100% but sounds that are 10m away by 10%. It kinda feels as if they amplify the sounds that you could hear to begin with (which still is great!) but they don't exactly allow you the spy on the neighbours conversations.
Haven't tried them with indoors shooting yet.
BTW, they also work great when working with loud barking dogs and crying babies. ;)
Please give me an update after trying it indoors. I’m really interested in buying one of these.
@@noobienoobie6358 I got the new SFAs, and wow the extra attenuation is excellent. I don't feel like I need to double-up with plugs anymore. Easy enough to swap the cup extensions in and out, takes about a minute.
The demo is not able to show, how awesome this headset is! 10/10!
I got them and they work great!
Outdoors, the dual microphones allows you to localize sounds JUST AS GOOD as you can without any protection.
Indoors you can however get a bit disorganized since you arent used to hear every single tiny sound. It's however cool to hear the birds and other animals Outdoors. Birdwatchers should use these!
HOWEVER, the amplification of the sound cuts off first at 82dB (equals to loud traffic) which is a bit uncomfortable since getting loud pops of sound during a long day at an otherwise quiet day at the range is tiresome. I usually turn them off while shooting and back on once the mag is empty.
When shooting bigger than 9mm i would also always double up since they don't block enough for spending several hours with the bigger stuff.
Also, as with all over ear protection, you can't wear a hat, glasses or similar since they create any gaps between your skin, or the effectiveness will seriously be reduced.
If the max amplification of 85dB is too much, you can just use a lower setting. You can also use eye pro with a thin frame to minimize the gap. Anyway, thanks for your comment on this video.
This video was referenced in a manifesto
yeah i was just about to comment that haha
This video boutta blow up frfr
As if anyone read the manifesto
fr bro this wild
@@InsaneNewsChannel yeah i did. a lot of people do.
Excellent overview of the Supreme Pro-X. I'm definitely picking up a pair. Thanks for sharing!
Great video. Very informative. Thank you very much. My friend has a set that he let me use.
I bought one in tarkov too much base
They are also advertised for professional environments, I will test them out as I am a machinist!
Curious about this, feel free to let us know what you find out working with them. | Viper
@@ReconBrothers Will do next week
@@phalanyx3478 Curious how this worked out!
I'm naturally hard-of-hearing. Will I be able to hear voices at Volume 6? Normally I can hear voices fine with hearing aids. Do people wear hearing aids with these? If I can't hear voices with these I may as well go passive. Good review, thanks!
How much decibels do your hearing aid amplify? I can ask Sordin if it is comparable.
@@ReconBrothers I don't know. One is made by Sennheiser and the other by Audicus. I guess I could also ask them. The Sordin does not fit very well over my ears, especially with the BTE (behind the ear) hearing aids in. I'm worried I won't hear an RSO with the earmuffs and foamies underneath, but maybe I won't need the foamies at an outdoor range. Thank you!
Thank you for the comprehensive video! I've spent the last few hours piecing together this information by myself, wish I'd seen your video sooner. It would be really nice if there was a was to secure these onto a standard 3M hard hat, as I'd like to wear these to work, but the only options are for ARC adapters..
Thanks for the comment. Unfortunately these are made to only work how they come, even Sordin's ARC adapters are not meant for these but for their military versions solely. I Viper
@@ReconBrothers I shan't be so easily deterred! 😁
Unity Tactical SARA Sordin adapters. They are meant to allow Sordins to be fitted to 3M/Peltor style helmet adaptors. The actual wires that come out and allow the ear cups to slide up and down are the exact same as the ones meant for ARC rails. I have 3M hard hat adaptors on my hard hat and the wire is the same thickness as the ones on my ballistic helmet and even has the same little flare at the end to prevent the ear cups from siding off. All you need to do is remove the 3m ear cups from the wires and then you can attach the sordins to them using the SARA adapters. Hope this helps!!!
they are quite small. im an average size male 5'10" 175 and I have to fully extend these and they still do not cover the lower ear lobe. All other ear pro fit fine can even extend to be too long for my head.
@@jbg7676 Thanks for sharing your feedback on them.
Had mine now for about 8 or 10 years. Peltor does not come close. I dont even remove them when range is made safe to go forward. My Gel Pads after these years now have started going as the black outer is starting to give in. But just ordered new gel pads.
Wow, cool to hear your experience on this. Thanks for sharing! | Viper
Was looking to buy but wanted to know if worth it before i spend the money
We would say yes. It's still amongst the best ear protection available when you don't needs comm capabilities.
Nice video bro 😎
Thanks! ✌ | Viper
MSR is the best on the market I my humble opinion.
Had mine for 3 years and they still work great 👍🏻
I can’t believe Sordin hasn’t improved the battery compartment after all this time. It is the biggest complaint (for many) with the design. My Sordin Pro X from 2007 recently died, so I am looking to replace them.
Yeah, they haven't been able to develop for over a decade since they were bought by MSA. Now, they're back with their R&D. | Viper
I recently found a way via a TH-cam video and its a game changer. Get yourself the smallest possible hex key with a 90 degree turn. I mean the smallest you can get. You simply reach in between the notch of the battery + side and the inside on the compartment and push down. Boom out in no time.
I'm thinking of upgrading from walkers to these but I wear earplugs underneath, so I was wondering how the sound amplification compares
I can't tell to be honest. Also wearing another set of earplugs underneath is not what they're made for. Don't know whether you will hear very well like that, since the volume can't be highered very greatly. I Viper
Great video 👍
Thanks 👍 | Viper
Oh this review was SCARY-good
Mono plug? Why not stereo or even headset 4-pole connector to for example a smartphone? How do you use it with a smart phone?
Thanks you sooo much :)
Glad to help out. 😄
Weird question but, would you say they’d work great at a music festival if I’m trying to block as much sound as possible 😅
It is indeed weird to go to a music festival and try to block out as much sound as possible. I would look around for hearing protection (both active and passive) that's specifically made for live music.
Thanks. Great review
You're welcome! 😉 I Viper
what you think about walkers xcel bt500? compared with this one?
excellent video! just bought one.
Enjoy avoiding Tinnitus. I Viper
This guys English is better than English people.
i dont shoot but i am looking for a headset i can listen to music through, provide ear protection from a loud factory setting, and will allow voice to come through if im being called. will these be a good fit?
This will work great, but it's not Bluetooth, it will have to be directly plugged into your phone via cable.
I have heard that they have a jack and you can run a shoulder mic setup with it
They do have a 3 mm jack, but we don't have a clue on how this would work properly.
You have a stunning style♥️
Second battery removal was easy with a small flat tip screwdriver. Installing second battery was finally achieved with a medium sized flat tip screwdriver used to push the end of the first battery down into place giving room to drop in the second battery. Not a great design but it is waterproof.
Are these better than the Swatcom active 8 ear pro?
My ears won't fit complete in the cups, but beside that they are really good
Great vids. Sordins or peltor? Im a bit lost on the high end ear pro. My old, OG peltors have been awesome., but wanna get into the higher end gear. TIA.
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If i wear tactical mich helmet what kind you suggest? The headband or the neckband?
It still depends on personal preference but we prefer the slim headband version. Especially if you have a modular comfort pad system that allows you to remove comfort pads that would stack with the headband. This way there is basically no added pressure on your head.
yo buddy your video is in the buffalos manifesto. just letting you know.
have you tried wiring the 3.5mm jack on a mic/ptt and then on the radio? works pretty well on the Howard Leigh ear pro
That is my set-up for a few years now; MSA Sordin Supreme Pro X connect to a Code Red signal 21 speakermic with an aux cable. It works very well and highly recommend that setup
We haven't been able to try it, because our radios or PTTs have other sort of inputs. | Viper
I bought an adapter cable for my I phone and it works excellent.
@@wijtzekaastra1398 so you the sordins would work with a shoulder do you hear the people over the radio in the headset or not an does the hearing protection still work
@@Starkiller_1710 yes all the sound is coming in via the headset. It doesn't affect the sound dampening capabilities. Meaning that you get the same effect as a normal headset, but your mic is located in your PTT instead of a boommic for half the price. Also if you unplug the headset you can still continue to communicate as now the sound is coming from the speakermic itself.
So finally we can expect some development and new products from "new" Sordin? Next year? Any info?
Not much besides a new waterproof PTT for the military and adapters for Team Wendy helmets, at least that is what we know of thus far. | Viper
Picked up a pair of theese are they supposed to blast me with white noise when above volume 2? Also got a gel cup upgrade.
Wich one one them fell off from the plastic that holds the cup in place. 😂 im such a lucky guy.
Is any ammount of white noise normal on sordin supreme pro?
I would say it can be possible on the last volume. But certainly not as heavy as you describe on volume 2. Your issue with the gel kit is quite odd too. Did you get an MSA Sordin or a SORDIN?
@@ReconBrothers i replaced them working perfectly now. They were they 2023 versions of sordin supreme pro x
Have you been able to test which style would offer the most comfort ease of use for prone positions under a ghillie? Didn't know if the behind the neck would get hung up or not.
No, and therefor we cannot tell, but I don't think the neckband would be more prone to being stuck than the headband. I Viper
@@ReconBrothers Which one do you think you would use under a ghillie hood, then?
@@Oldgrowthartisans The headband version, since it is more comfortable for me personally. | Viper
Great review, but it seems that Sordin only makes Supreme Pro-X LED with a leather or cloth headband, no neckband models offered. Do you know if that will change anytime soon?
Correct, The LED version only comes like that. There are no indications that they will change that soon.
Just bought sordin supreme pro.
Didn t like that material 50%cotton/50%nylon it says.Looks very cheap
cant figure out the difference between the pro x and the mil cc
help?
There are a ton of differences too much to write out, so best have a look at our other video where we cover the Mil CC: m.th-cam.com/video/TIv8A2JNk_s/w-d-xo.html ✌️ | Viper
I just got the Pro-X... Where can I get the camo headband? / Thank you
Here you go: shop.reconbrothers.com/product/sordin-replacement-headband-cover/ | Viper
Can those be mounted on an Ops Core helmet using SORDIN adapters?
You will require a pair of Unity Tactical SARA adapters as well.
Do you perhaps ship to South Africa?
Yes we do. | Viper
@@ReconBrothers many thanks
@@tyrelfnx4528 You're welcome! 🤙 | Viper
Is it possible to make these work for a two way radio as comms? Or get a cable split and adapter to connect a aftermarket 3 5mm mic?
No it is not possible according to Sordin, we've had lots of people ask this question and the headset doesn't feature the right technology to make it possible. I Instinct
They can work. Covert Arms has a system on their website that will allow you to attach a boom mic and PTT that can route to a baofeng.
Can you add microphone to these and turn them into coms?
Nope
Awesome info... Are they good for shooting at indoor ranges???
Thanks! We haven't been able to try them at a shooting range due to Covid-19 restrictions, so we cannot say yet. 🤷♂️ | Viper
I have seen Sordins on Vladimir Onokoy of Kalashnikov media in some of his videos on TH-cam, as well as on some of the people on Polenar Tactical. Maybe they wear additional plugs inside the earpro, but all in all it seems promising.
With actual gun fire:
Indoors it's always recommended to wear ear plugs along with your headset, stated by Sordin themselves.
Outside you would only need the headset.
I use them indoors. For 22lr it's fine. If somebody is using 9mm a few lanes away its okay. (May depend on size and acoustic of the range) But if I'm using 9mm or above I always use double protection indoors. Better safe then sorry especially for your ears.
@@JohnWeggo This is surprising, because I did not know this and I have used my Supreme Pro-X's (with gel cups upgraded) for a few years. The sound is some what loud when indoors (25m pistol range using 9mm ect. pistols and carbines) but I have never felt that it was too loud. Even with 8 other shooters in the lanes on either sidee.e However if Sording them selves say that you may need plugs, maybe it is true and I should do it next time I go to an indoor range. Funnily enough I failed to catch that info when I bought these, and I'm a safety & PPE nut my self.
nice
Thanks!
this or swatcom active 8?
Don't know, never used a Swatcom. But just so you know, Sordin are the ones that originally created this design & technology. | Viper
Thanks. It has everything except radio comms… Really a bummer (Airsoft use only, replica’s suck)
Yes, knock-offs are sh*t. These type of products are something you can't simply can't be cheap with.
Does this headset fit under helmet?
Only the leather headband versions will. I Viper
Sordin supreme pro x led vs swatcom? What’s better?
Never used a swatcom, so I cannot tell. We do know that Sordin is the company that engineered this design that has been copied by many brands already. I Viper
Swatcom only offers 18db of NRR compared to the sordins 26. Decibels are logarithmic so that's MUCH less.
Just bought a set of these and tried them out. Each gun shot has a weird echo sound to it. Is this normal? Or did I get a bad set?
Sounds like a ringing through a metal pole or a laser from a movie... or the sound Link’s sword makes when you have all your hearts and it shoots the laser sword.
Hi, did you order over our store? If so can you write me an email so I can see what specific model you have and contact Sordin about this.
Besides that, were you shooting indoor or outdoors? I Instinct
It could be were you are shooting, since it could be the actual echo of the gun shot
Can they deliver to singapore.
We can. 😉 | Viper
@@ReconBrothers do you ship to Mexico as well?
@@shahinIII Yes we do. 🙂 | Viper
I wonder how these would work and the mic on them too if I hook these up to my PS5 Controller? 🤔lol
They don't have a mic input for speaking. Only listening is possible. | Viper
@@ReconBrothers But can't you buy separate microphone pieces for this? and thanks for the reply I appreciate it dude!
@@marduk-z8284 No, these are not equipped with the technology to support that.
@@ReconBrothers okay thank you for so much for the replies I appreciate the information.
Bro is possible to wear this earmuff under the helmet
Only if you get the version with a leather headband wrap. The textile wraps are too thick. | Viper
@@ReconBrothers thanks
I even took the headband wrap off and they don't fit under my high cut helmet.
edit:
I actually got it to fit.
Fits kind of snug but comfortable still.
Mk18 Mod 0?
Yep. 🤟 I Viper
good video. your shoulders are not leveled, watch your posture bro.
Good job for watching out for the bros.
Yeah sometimes I tend to forget when I'm getting tired. Thanks guys! I Viper
Almost first
So are these real sordin i noticed the real sordins say MSA sordins
The ones with "MSA Sordin" are the old versions. Sordin was once bought by MSA, but now they're seperate companies again.
i know you're here from tarkov
You mean the game? Never played it & thus I have no clue what you're talking about man. 🤷♂️ | Viper
@@ReconBrothers Escape from Tarkov has these exact ear pro model in the game and a lot of people like these ones the best as it has more bass which is better for hearing direction in the game, so naturally a lot of people are interested in finding out if they exist irl.
Viper… Jesus dude… when you people will learn that you’re making a joke out of yourself with nicknames like this…