Paul's Disagreement with the Apostles
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 เม.ย. 2018
- There were twelve apostles, and there was Paul. Paul was not included among them, nor did he consider himself of them. Instead, he opposed them to the face at times. The exchange in Galatians 2 is revealing of both their relationship and their corresponding teachings.
www.rememberthecommands.com
(Thumbnail graphic from public domain)
paul basically changed the religion to fit in with the romans. basically what we see pastors do today...talk about jesus but they're all in it for the money and fame.
_Jesus foretold and warned that false prophets would come. Paul came and does these very things Jesus warned about._
Matthew 7:15 *Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.*
Matthew 7:16 *Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?*
Matthew 24:23 *Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.*
Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, *and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders;* insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Matthew 24:25 *Behold, I have told you before.*
Matthew 24:26 *Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert;* go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; *believe it not.*
Matthew 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
_Jesus says in Matt __7:16__;_ *“...Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?”*
_Paul said in;_ Galatians 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
Galatians 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Galatians 1:13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that *beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:*
_It appears there was no greater among the thorns and thistles than Paul who persecuted the church of God “beyond measure” and “wasted it.”_
_Jesus says in Matt __7:16__;_ *“...Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?”*
_Paul said in;_ 1 Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save *sinners; of whom I am chief.*
_Paul confirmed that there was no greater among the thorns and thistles for he was the chief of sinners._
_Jesus says in_ Matthew 24:23 *Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.*
_Regardless of what Jesus had said (“...if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ ...believe it not” in Matt __24:23__) Paul wants others to believe that Jesus meet with Paul._
Acts 9:3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:
Acts 9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
Acts 9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
_The road to Damascus is said to have been a desert place and may still be a desert place._
Matthew 24:26 *Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.*
_Also Jesus says_ Matthew 24:24 *For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.*
_Regardless of what Jesus' warns about signs and wonders in Matt __24:24__, Paul claims his signs of an apostle are in signs, and wonders..._
2 Corinthians 12:11 I am become a fool in glorying; ye have compelled me: for I ought to have been commended of you: for in nothing am I behind the very chiefest apostles, though I be nothing.
2 Corinthians 12:12 *Truly the signs of an apostle were wrought* among you in all patience, *in signs, and wonders,* and mighty deeds.
If you read DEUT. 13:1-4.......you can see how Paul is a test to see who loves the Words of Christ in red, the true Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven as taught by the 12 Real Apostles.
@@FireShine-ss4sbYES. I absolutely agree. Our Heavenly Father wants to know if we love Him enough to dig into scripture and be ridiculed for our efforts.
If you think about it, what a cleverly creative way to get to know our Heavenly Father. That is what happened to me. I wanted to be set free. No matter where it led. Deuteronomy 13:3 and Jeremiah 8:8 prove we need to find out the Truth.
And that’s the whole point of the Apostate church declaring inerrancy. So we would not start looking into the Pauline gospel.
@@bobhowe4476 yeah it's a test to see if we will dig into scripture the guy next to him didnt follow paul so he was ok and went to paradise with Jesus I wonder if he had time to study the the red letters in the bible or did he just beleive that Jesus was the son of God 🤷
They could have just called Christianity as Paulism.
It is sad... the word Christianity is suppose to mean followers of Christ. However the word "Christian" did start with Paul and Barnabas in Antioch and not by Jesus and not by Jesus disciples.
Acts 11:25 Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus, for to seek Saul:
Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
However Jesus commanded what was to be preached was to start at Jerusalem:
Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
Jesus' disciples began preaching what Jesus instructed them to, at Jerusalem and not Antioch. What began at Antioch appears to be a new movement brought about by Paul and Barnabas.
Paul and Barnabas soon split ways. And yes, Christianity is basically followers of Paul and Barnabas.
When read carefully we can see Paul only claims to follow Jesus but doesn't in reality.
@@KeepingWatch95 nope....read it closely they said the people there were the first who called them Christians. Christianity isnt created by Paul nor Barnabas!! the entire bible is about Jesus, Paul used loads of the Old Testament to make the point that Jesus IS God and there is only salvation trough Him!!!
@@michielvdvlies3315 Nor was Christainity created at Jerusalem. You should read Jesus' teachings closely for Paul does not follow Jesus but rather usurps his self proclaimed positions of authority.
@@KeepingWatch95 nope wrong!!!
@@michielvdvlies3315 _Paul fails to follow Jesus' teachings._
_Paul proclaims (in 1 Timothy and 2 Timothy) I am “ordained/appointed” to be a preacher, an apostle, and a teacher._
*1 Timothy 2:7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.*
*2 Timothy 1:11 Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.*
_For those that do not read or follow Jesus' commandments closely, the error(s) in what Paul has proclaimed can be easily overlooked._
_Here are some of Jesus's commandments:_
*Matthew 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, Christ; and all ye are brethren.*
*Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.*
*Matthew 23:10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, Christ.*
(Matthew 23:8 & 10 Master,G2519) καθηγητής From a compound of G2596 and G2233; a guide, that is, (figuratively) a teacher: - master.
Matthew 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: *for one is your [Teacher], Christ; and all ye are brethren.*
Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
Matthew 23:10 *Neither be ye called [teachers]: for one is your [Teacher], Christ.*
_In Matthew 23:8 Jesus makes it clear he is the one Teacher (for one is your [Teacher], Christ)_
_In Matthew 23:10 Jesus makes it clear to neither be called teachers (Neither be ye called [teachers])._
_Also in verse 10 Jesus repeats what he had just said in verse 8. (...for one is your [Teacher], Christ)_
_Paul fails to keep Jesus' commandment “neither be ye called [teachers]...” even (in the same verse and in conjunction) as he proclaims himself to be an apostle._
_In other words; Paul is breaking Jesus' commandment not to be called teacher(s) at the same time as declaring himself as an apostle._
*1 Timothy 2:7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.*
_Paul repeats this claim as an apostle and a teacher in 2 Timothy 1:11._
*2 Timothy 1:11 Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.*
_Once again Paul is breaking Jesus' commandment not to be called teacher(s) all while claiming himself to be an apostle._
_Furthermore in 2 Timothy Paul proclaims; _*_“ Whereunto I am appointed...”_*
*#1 Question:* _Who had appointed Paul “a teacher;” after Jesus had instructed not to be called such; in_ Matthew 23:10 *Neither be ye called [teachers]: for one is your [Teacher], Christ.*
_Paul claims likewise in 1 Timothy 2:7 _*_Whereunto I am ordained..._*
Moreover *#1 Question:* _Who (against Jesus' commandment of (Matt __23:10__) not to be called a teacher) “ordained” and or “appointed” Paul as “a teacher?”_
_None of Jesus' disciples would have had the authority to break any of Jesus' commandments, and to go and “ordained” or “appointed” Paul as “a teacher.”_
*_#2 Question:_*_ Or is it perhaps, we are to believe that Jesus broke his own commandment and came to Paul privately (came to him secretly as it were) and “ordained” and “appointed” Paul as “a teacher” against Jesus' own commandment?_
*_#3 Question_*_ Or worst, should we assume that God “ordained” and “appointed” Paul as “a teacher” against Jesus' commandment? However If this were true (being beforehand Jesus declared he is our one Teacher; for one is your Teacher, Christ) this would mean God “ordained” and “appointed” Paul in the position of an Antichrist (which means in the place of Christ or instead of Christ.)_
_The above questions are mere speculations which seemingly can not fit as explanations as to Paul's claims._
_The important fact to remember is; for in effort to conform with Paul's statements (found in 1 Timothy 2:7 and 2 Timothy 1:11) it is of a necessity to break Jesus' commandment; _*_Neither be ye called [teachers]: for one is your [Teacher], Christ._*
_Thus Paul usurps his (self claimed) position of teacher of the Gentiles._
Again you have done a wonderful task of presenting what is written , great ...thank you
All I know is that I asked Jesus into my heart ❤ at age 14. Right away I began reading the gospels. When I got to Paul's letters I began to feel very uneasy about what I was reading. It was very confusing 😕 (Later on I learned that God is not a God of confusion).I was never a fan of Paul's from then on. When I was into my 50s I discovered You Tube. God led 🙏 me to The Saul of Tarsus articles explaining how Paul was a fake, a very good fake. We will be judged by our works folks so everybody 🤷 let's get busy and begin to care for the poor and needy.I hope I made myself clear.
Asking Jesus to come in to your heart to save you is Not in the bible, it is believing what Jesus has done on the cross, Jesus died, buried and risen again, 1 Cor. 15:1-4,
I didn’t have a good feeling over Paul’s letters when reading them as well. Same uneasy feeling.
@@leeshelenberger7240 not that simple - gates are narrow not wide.
Exactly, he speaks with a forked tongue, which is not from the Father
@@jimywebb23 Paul is apostle to the gentiles not Israel, that is why his letters are different from the 12 apostles. By grace Not by Law of Moses
I’m sorry, I haven’t finished the video but I’m so upset, because I always thought Paul had stolen the True Church of Christ from those who had been chosen by the Lord, and now you explain it how it’s really very clear Paul went against the twelve. Ver angry but very thankful to you.
Be c angry, but also rejoice, because now you are free from obligation to follow Paul. You can dig more into the Gospels and the books written by and on behalf of the real apostles (hint: not all of them are in the church-approved canons of Scripture, but they confirm everything taught in the OT and in the Gospels.
VERY well laid out. Holy spirit is all over this. Thank you!
th-cam.com/video/C2pFZSriFbM/w-d-xo.html
You show that Paul had little regard for the Nazarenes. The problem is that the Nazarene's were Jesus' sect. So Paul is deviating from Jesus' teachings. Despite his great success, Paul has no authority to do such a thing. What Paul teaches therefore is error. And what is good is not new and what is new is not good.
clarkewi Paul was the LEADER of the sect of the Nazarenes!!
"For we have found this man a plague, one who stirs up riots among all the Jews throughout the world and is a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes." Acts 24:5
@ clarkewi ...Well said and amen.
PAUL"S LETTERS WERE NEVER NOT CONSIDERED GOD-BREATHED, Look at the man's sufferings and his signs and wonders!! Who is your man????? You raise people from the dead- YOU HAVE AIUTHORITY. Paul's Honoring Christ bin the Gospel he receivedf IS SO WONDERFUL!! Why this hatred ?? It is pure- it takes away the FEAR OF DEATH- It is HAPPY NEWS!!
@@annehelenetrippestadhasvik4361 Some people do not understand what a wolf in sheeps clothing is. A true deceiver is one who gives you 95% of what you WANT to hear, but 5% false that can cost you your soul.
The truth is this....
" I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd gives his life for the sheep. But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, sees the wolf coming, and leaves the sheep, and flees: and the wolf catches them, and scatters the sheep. The hireling flees, because he is an hireling, and cares not for the sheep. I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. As the Father knows me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. (John 10:11-16 [AKJV])"
If you have even a semblance of wisdom and understanding, you can see that Christ, in this passages above is speaking of both the Jews and the Gentiles. The hireling (anyone but Christ and His disciples) is not of God and neither are his sheep. Notice where it He says... "and known of mine"? The "mine" are those who put HIS voice above all others, including Paul.
Notice also... "and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd" meaning both Jew and Gentile will be one fold under the same "Christ" or ONE Shepard which excludes any other gospel. Whether you choose to believe it or not, does not alter the fact that the Gospel of Paul is not the same as Christ and cannot therefore save. Right now, understand there is only one Gospel, and if any other differs from this, then it is false.
If you fail to understand this very important teaching of Christ, you risk your own salvation.
Anne... keep up the fight for truth. You are indeed of the fold of Christ.
@clarkewi
Peace be upon you. It's great that you're thinking. May GOD ALMIGHTY guide you. I am a Muslim. Let's see if Mikey Strikey responds to this.
Jesus WARNED about Paul and his likes:
Matthew 5:17
Think NOT that I (Jesus) am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 5:18-19 “For verily I say unto you, TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS, one jot or one tittle shall in NO wise pass from the law, till ALL be fulfilled. WHOSOEVER therefore shall break one of these LEAST commandments, and SHALL TEACH men so, he shall be called the LEAST in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”
[[See! ....WHOSOEVER therefore shall break one of these LEAST commandments, and SHALL TEACH men so, he shall be called the LEAST .....]]
Does that ring a bell? Paul is the answer.
********
Obviously, heaven and earth have not yet passed. The fact that you are reading this bears witness to this very simple fact. So Jesus is telling us that so long as creation exists, the laws and the commandments will be required from his followers. Anyone who will dare to say otherwise, until the end of time, will be called “the least in the kingdom of heaven.” Jesus the messiah and messenger had FOREWARNED about mankind’s attempt to distort and annul the commandments (the commandments Moses brought), which he had taught his followers to keep and himself had kept faithfully (along with whatever stipulations that God had prescribed Jesus Christ as per his time and place) throughout his mission on earth, and was warning his followers in no uncertain terms to be wary of all those who would attempt to do so.
Even towards the end of his ministry, Jesus Christ even instructs his disciples and the people to do what the Jew teachers say.
Matthew 23:2-3
2 “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses’ seat;
3 so PRACTICE and OBSERVE WHATEVER they tell you, but not what they do; for they preach, but do not practice.
***************
And what do the Jews teachers, the scribes and the Pharisees tell you?
To KEEP the laws and the commandments.
Jesus tells us that “If a man love me, he WILL KEEP MY WORDS: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” John 14:23.
He taught to KEEP THE LAWS AND THE COMMANDMENTS TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS but Christians, who profess to be followers of the Christ, are doing the exact opposite of what Jesus the Christ himself said. Christians today are the followers of Paul. Christians are NOT the followers of Jesus Christ. Christians in fact ANTI-CHRIST. The believers in Crucifixion which is an abomination against Jesus Christ because he NEVER got Crucified or killed. A religion built on the idea of the "death" of an innocent so that the transgressors can get a free pass to Heaven. An ABOMINATION against the Most Merciful God Almighty who sent Jesus Christ.
********
Jesus WARNED in Matthew 7:15
Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in SHEEP'S clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
****************
What do you make of the prophecy in Yirmeyahu 31:31 and also the New/Renewed Covenant ie Beriyt Chadasha that Messiah Yahushua instated at his Passover meal with his 12 apostles?
As a muslim I applaud you for honesty on this topic
As a born again Christian with the holy Spirit inside of m.i tell you Jesus is God and peter was Satan. Today prob trump is Satan. Jesus is God
Please don’t pretend you care about honesty. You’re only happy to see an opposition undermined. Your religion is the epitome of corruption and evil as evidenced by how many more your religion corrupts and radicalizes. If Sharia was law you’d be first on the bandwagon to chop off the heads of apostates and murder any homosexual you find. Your scriptures has Pharaoh threatening Moses with crucifixion (something that didn’t exist until 500 b.c.), the sun going down IN a murky pond, and Muhammad raping his child bride Aisha.
Use the logic used in this vid and start applying it to your own messed up theology.
As soon as it was declared, "It is finished", the devil went to work preparing Paul to pervert.
lol
This man is preaching a false gospel, as Paul addressed it in Galatians as the JUDAIZER CULT! If you follow his incorrect teachings of mixing Old and New Covenants, you will NOT be saved, and are fallen from GRACE (Gal 5:1-5). Paul specifically told them NOT to go back to the LAW, as Christ has completed it for you (Romans says it all). We all will be judged by Paul's gospel as well. Romans 2:16 “In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.” Ignore Paul's directives given to him by Jesus, at your OWN PERIL!
th-cam.com/video/C2pFZSriFbM/w-d-xo.html
Lol
yup paul is a pervert alright...
have you read Paul in Greek at all, since he wrote the Greek gentiles?
Hi, brother. Paul refers to James as an apostle. When did James, the brother of Yeshua, become an apostle?
It was James the brother of John the apostle., not James the brother of Jesus.
@@thesweatypro8133 That's not a good answer, though. Was John called "lord"? Because, Paul says "James, the brother of the lord".
Apostle means "sent one", Yeshua sent all of us to share the gospel so this means all followers of Yeshua are apostles and disciples (aka talmidim, which means "taught ones")
The Twelve were "Elders" so they were leaders. John refers to himself as an Elder.
Paul. all who call on the name of the lord shall be saved. Jesus not all who say to me lord lord shall enter the kingdom of heaven
Proverbs 28:9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.
go ahead with that right to the grave. Moses wrote the law in stone, God writes his Word on our hearts
If you heard the Law you would follow Jesus and ask Him to forgive your sin. Only he can atone for sin for he has victory over death.
@@rodlancaster6431 _Study Jesus' words and teachings_
King James Version
KJV Luke 13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
KJV Luke 13:26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
KJV Luke 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. *[iniquity G93]*
G93
ἀδικία
adikia
ad-ee-kee'-ah
From G94; (legal) injustice (properly the quality, by implication the act); moral wrongfulness (of charater, life or act): - iniquity, unjust, *unrighteousness,* wrong.
Young's Literal Translation
YLT Luke 13:27 and he shall say, I say to you, I have not known you whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of the *unrighteousness.*
*_Above verse Luke _**_13:25_**_-27 compared to Matthew _**_7:21_**_-23;_*
KJV Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. *[iniquity G458]*
YLT Matthew 7:23 and then I will acknowledge to them, that-I never knew you, depart from me ye who are working *lawlessness.*
G458
ἀνομία
anomia
an-om-ee'-ah
From G459; illegality, that is, violation of law or (generally) wickedness: - iniquity, X transgress (-ion of) the law, unrighteousness.
*_Jesus' teachings in Luke _**_13:25_**_-27 & Matthew _**_7:21_**_-23 compared to Paul's teachings in Romans _**_3:21_**_ & Romans _**_6:14_**_;_*
YLT Luke 13:27 ... depart from me, all ye workers of the *unrighteousness.*
YLT Matthew 7:23 ... depart from me ye who are working *lawlessness.*
_Compare Jesus teachings to Paul's teachings_
KJV Romans 3:21 But now the righteousness of God *without the law* is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
_Romnas __3:21__ _*_(without G5565)_*
G5565
χωρίς
chōris
kho-rece'
Adverb from G5561; at a space, that is, separately or apart from (often as preposition): - beside, by itself, without.
YLT Romans 3:21 And now *apart from* law hath the righteousness of God been manifested, testified to by the law and the prophets,
Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are *not under the law,* but under grace. *[not G3756]*
G3756
οὐ
ou
oo
Also οὐκ ouk ook used before a vowel and οὐχ ouch ookh before an aspirate.
A primary word; the absolutely negative (compare G3361) adverb; no or not: - + long, nay, neither, never, no (X man), none, [can-] not, + nothing, + special, un ([-worthy]), when, + without, + yet but. See also G3364, G3372.
Romans 6:14 for sin over you shall not have lordship, for ye are *not under law,* but under grace.
*_Again: Luke _**_13:25_**_-27 & Matthew _**_7:21_**_-23 compared to Romans _**_3:21_**_ & Romans _**_6:14_**_;_* (Jesus' teachings compared to Paul's teachings.)
_Jesus teaches in Luke __13:27__ & Matthew __7:23_
KJV Luke 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. *[iniquity G93] [YLT: unrighteousness]*
KJV Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. *[iniquity G458] [YLT: lawlessness.]*
_Compare Jesus' teachings to Paul's teachings_
_Paul does not follow Jesus' teachings in Romans __3:21__ & __6:14_
KJV Romans 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; *[without G5565] [YLT apart from]*
KJV Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. *[not G3756] [YLT not]*
*_Also 1 John 3:4 makes it clear lawlessness is sin._*
KJV 1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for *sin is the transgression of the law.* [transgression of the law G458]
G458
ἀνομία
anomia
an-om-ee'-ah
From G459; illegality, that is, violation of law or (generally) wickedness: - iniquity, X transgress (-ion of) the law, *unrighteousness.*
@@KeepingWatch95 Paul actually seems totally ignorant of anything that Jesus said or did. He seems to be acting on his own behalf. That was a very good explanation even though there is way more to back you're points up. If you will go back to the Torah (Law), you will see that God is constantly telling His people (Israelites) that they must keep His Law (Torah) "forever" and "as long as you live upon the Earth." So, it is no wonder that the Jews distrusted Paul since he was teaching that the Law (Torah) was no longer viable! What part of "forever" or "as long as you live upon the Earth" did Paul not understand? Or was it The Lord who made a mistake?
@@markduett1532 _The 13th Apostle Paul was and is, a wolf in sheep's clothing._
_It should be noted that Jesus of course would have known about Paul even before Paul came._
_And indeed Jesus did foretell to his disciples of what (or who) was going to come during this time:_
John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
John 14:29 *And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.*
John 14:30 *Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.*
_The person of Jesus' prophecy in John __14:30__ had to come in a relatively short span of time. Which is after Jesus' crucifixion (verse John __14:28__) and before all his disciples had passed away (John __14:30__)._
_Jesus' prophecy did come true during the very exact time Jesus foretold it would. (Which is during the remaining span of the disciples lives and while Jesus was not talking much with them.)_
_But why didn't Jesus tell his disciples after this came to pass? Because (John __14:29__) he told them it before it came to pass, that, _*_when it is come to pass, ye might believe._*
Please note the following:
_Matthew, Mark, Luke and John (the 4 Gospels) are record of events which occurred while Jesus was talking much with his disciples._
_Paul epistles (13 letters) are record of events which came during the time Jesus was not talking much with his disciples. (During the very exact time Jesus foretold it would. Which is after Jesus' crucifixion and during the remaining span of the disciples lives and while Jesus was not talking much with them.)_
_Paul came teaching after Jesus' crucifixion and during the remaining span of the disciples lives while Jesus was not talking much with them. (John __14:28__-30)_
_What Paul teaches in Galatians:_
Galatians 2:7 *But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;*
Galatians 2:8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)
_(In Galatians 2:7 Paul makes it clear that he (Paul) claims a gospel that is “contrariwise” to the gospel he claims was committed unto Peter.)_
Furthermore in Galatians 5:2
Galatians 5:2 *Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.*
_(In Galatians 5:2 Paul makes it clear that he (Paul) says “that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.”_
_According to Paul; Peter was given [by God] an apostleship (Gal 2:8) or gospel (Gal 2:7) of circumcision. Paul then claims (Gal 5:2) “that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.”_
_Paul is claiming that Peter was given (followed and taught) a gospel in which “Christ shall profit you nothing.” (That is; an unprofitable gospel in Christ.) An unprofitable gospel is just another way of saying a false gospel._
_And if Peter followed an unprofitable gospel it would also be true of all of Jesus' disciples._
_I doubt Jesus would agree that Peter (and all his disciples) were given and committed (by God) to a gospel in which Christ shall profit [them] nothing._
_This "contrariwise" teaching only comes from Paul, who indeed came while Jesus was not talking much with his disciples. (John __14:28__-30)._
*_If anyone disagrees perhaps they can show a quote from Jesus saying that God committed Peter to a gospel that was unprofitable in Christ._*
_Moreover:_
_Paul came teaching after Jesus' crucifixion and during the remaining span of the disciples lives while Jesus was not talking much with them. ( John __14:28__-30)_
Galatians 2:7 *But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;*
Galatians 2:8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)
_(In Galatians 2:7 Paul makes it clear that he (Paul) claims a gospel that is “contrariwise” to the gospel he claims was committed unto Peter.)_
_Further more Paul makes the following claim in Romans __11:13_
Romans 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as *I am the apostle of the Gentiles,* I magnify mine office:
_(In Romans __11:13__ Paul makes a clear claim to be “the apostle of the Gentiles”.)_
_(However before Paul came, and during the time (John __14:28__-30) that Jesus was talking much with his disciples; Jesus had already given instructions to his disciples to preach unto the Gentiles (teach all nations) and (into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.)_
Matthew 28:16 Then *the eleven disciples* went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.
Matthew 28:17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.
Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Matthew 28:19 *Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,* baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Matthew 28:20 *Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world.* Amen.
_(Verse Matthew __28:16__ is addressing the remaining 11 disciples.)_
_(In Matthew __28:19__ “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,” all nations would of course include the Gentiles nations. Because Israel was the only nation that was not Gentile.)_
_More in the gospel of Mark:_
Mark 16:14 Afterward *he appeared unto the eleven* as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.
Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, *Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.*
Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
_(Mark __16:15__ “Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.” Does include all the Gentile people.)_
_And notice again in Matt __28:19__-20 Jesus gave them instructions to “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations” … “ Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world..” (It appears Jesus says he would be with them as they did so, even unto the end of the world.)_
Matthew 28:19 *Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,* baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Matthew 28:20 *Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world.* Amen.
_The teaching that Peter was to preach to a different group of people is directly against, and is “contrariwise” to what Jesus told his disciples while he was with them and talking much with them. This “contrariwise” teaching (Galatians 2:7) came by Paul during the exact time that Jesus foretold about. Which is after the crucifixion and during the remaining time the disciples were alive, and while Jesus was not talking much with them. (John __14:28__-30)._
I was blessed to see my matriarchal genealogy recently. My great-great grandfather's name was Matthias Doubt! A message through time from my great great great grandmother! It didn't mean anything to me years ago, but this time I understood loud and clear!
Just wanted to share that incredible experience! At least I found it striking! Powerful!
Are you implying the new covenant believers in Christ are still under the law of the Mosaic or old covenant? Thank you.
He won't come outright and say that, but yes, that's exactly what he's saying. Religious pharisees will always try to steal your freedom in Christ and try to put you back under the law. Just like they tried to do to Paul.
@@staza1 yes, you are correct. Thank you.
@@petrhegner7513 FYI Apostle Paul was hand picked by our Lord, Jesus and he is the smartest intellectually among the rest of the Apostles. Paul was given direct revelations for three years by our Lord and if we count the 66 “books” of the New Testament, 14 of the 27 books of the NT were written by the apostle Paul, so it seems a bit more than half. But, if we count the 260 chapters of the New Testament, Paul wrote about 100 chapters which adds up to about 38%. Please elaborate what's your "strange vibe towards Pauls stuff".
Please quote for me the verses in the bible since you claimed "yes the laws are to be kept". Further tell me what it is about doing our fathers work until the end? Thank you.
The Law of Moses, 10 Commandments is never going away. Jesus quoted them. The Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ is now the Law that saves. To hear Gods Voice and Obey God's Holy Love......gets you in with the 12 Commandments now in force. Need a New Birth.....Jeremiah 31:31.
@@FireShine-ss4sb We are under the Law of Christ which is far superior than the Law of Moses which Christ fulfilled in Mat5:17. Law doesn't saves anyone as Christians are save by the grace of God through faith in Christ and instead the Law kills.
We lived by the New commandment of Jesus and NOT the old laws in the OT (Hebrews8:13) as it has now been done away.
As YAH was leading me to all sorts of truth this year the Ruach led me to start observing the law, but then I got really really confused with Paul's teachings. Then the Ruach reminded me of a documentary I watched three years prior in where Yahushua called Judas "you thirteenth spirit" and asked him why have you come here.
It shocked me and I did not want to believe that the Word of Yah could have been messed with this badly, so I seeked for ways to prove Paul right.
But your videos has just confirmed what the Ruach revealed.
Prays YAH!
No where in scriptures is Judas called the "13th spirit". Please make sure to live in obedience to Yeshua.
John 5:23 "That kol Bnei Adam may honor HaBen as they honor HaAv. The one not honoring HaBen does not honor HaAv who sent him [Dan 7:13-14]."
Paul was a liar
@@ghettostarmusic7840 and you?
@@therighteousrighthand ?
Read Acts 9:7, + 22:7-9 and Acts 26:14 .. May the truth set us all free.
Im relieved to hear your words
And i concur most brethren wont or will not receive this i feel they worship an idol
And not YAHUAH
No they won't because they didn't listen to YHWH. They opened the door of their heart to the idol.
Did you read about Islam . Quran is the last book sent from God it follows the same message Jesus and Moses preached “the oneness of God “
Question: So if Jesus said the twelve apostles present, including Judas, had a special role as defined in Matthew at several locations, would he not be one of the twelve? Just an honest question. Thanks.
I think so yes. But there is much controversy over Judas because of revelations in the recent discovery of his Gospel. Also in the bible there are two instances of his death which have nothing in common. IMHO, I think you gotta make up your own mind on this one. (smile)
@@strikemaster1 well that is a every dangerous and ignorant thing to tell someone. No he would not be an apostle because the book of acts tells you who replaced judas,it was Matthias! Paul was never chosen as part of the twelve, this is a biblical fact. Christ never mentioned a saul or paul to come after him. Paul didn't even learn anything from christ or even walk with him. Paul was a fraud.
@@keihlonzoterrell4269 Ignorance is not a bad word; but it does become dangerous when one uses it in the wrong light. If you were to say something someone said is ignorant, without reading and studying the same history as what the one you accuse of, then my friend, it becomes you who are saying the ignorant things. First get rid of the tree in your eye so you can see clearly to pick the spec from anothers eye.
You should know that Jesus CHOSE Judus right? Are you saying Jesus made a mistake in choosing him? Think about this and you will gain insight into why Judus did what he did and why also Jesus chose him.
@@keihlonzoterrell4269 _You have posted;_ “Christ never mentioned a saul or paul to come after him.”
_However Jesus did foretell to his disciples of what (or who) was going to come after him._
_Jesus of course would have known what was going to happen even after he was gone. Jesus would have known about the bible, even before it was compiled. And Jesus would have even known about Paul before Paul came._
John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
John 14:29 *And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.*
John 14:30 *Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.*
_The person of Jesus' prophecy in John__14:30__ had to come in a relatively short span of time. Which is after Jesus' crucifixion (verse John __14:28__) and before all his disciples had passed away (John __14:30__)._
_Jesus' prophecy did come true during the very exact time Jesus foretold it would. (Which during the remaining span of the disciples lives and while Jesus was not talking much with them.)_
_But why didn't Jesus tell the his disciples after this came to pass? Because (John __14:29__) Jesus told them well before it came to pass, that, _*_when it is come to pass, ye might believe._*
_Please note the following:_
_Matthew, Mark, Luke and John (the 4 Gospels) are record of events which occurred while Jesus was talking much with his disciples._
_Paul epistles (13 letters) are record of events which came during the time Jesus was not talking much with his disciples. (During the very exact time Jesus foretold it would. Which is after Jesus' crucifixion and during the remaining span of the disciples lives while Jesus was not talking much with them.)_
@@KeepingWatch95 Beautifully written. Spot on! Thanks.
Thank you! Well done! Now those who continue to keep the commandments, can now continue to move at God speed!
Thanks. Did you know? 51% of The new testement is only paul's message.. We have to read surely Gospel of the 12 Apostles. It is really amazing!
So you are saying, Paul’s messages make up 51% of the NT. Why don’t we hear gospels from the original 11 apostles.
@@Will-nb8qk That is why the bible alone 400 years latter is wrong , the Church followed Tradition , letters given to the Churches and vocally from the 12 Apostles .
1 Corinthians 15 Paul admits he accepts the body of teaching associated with the other apostles. This presentation did not include all the relevant data.
So therefore it is invalid?
@@forestshook3744 Not including all relevant data does not ipso facto make the presentation wrong; but the specific datum mentioned invalidates the claim that Paul does not concede to the apostolic testimony concerning the resurrection. He admits they were witnesses before him and he cites the content of their witness as authoritative and coherent with his own. You can find it in 1 Cor. 15:1-3.
Paul/ Saul was not an apostle Mattias was elected 12 in acts 1... Paul made Christianity and finished in Rome.. Genesis17 exodus12 Joshua 5 numbers9 John 7 : 23
you are mistaken
@@rodlancaster6431 no he isn't.
Paul made christianity but persecuted Christian's before he converted....so how could he have made it😭 stupid
@@uriarteunited3105 over & over again Paul was called an Apostle to the gentiles. Galatians 2:7-9 he received the right hand of fellowship with the 12 Apostles & told you have the gentiles we will stay with the Jews. Which they did until their deaths. Peter backed Paul's gospel of grace in Acts 15:7-11 & in 2 Peter 3:15,16. Paul brought the gospel to pagan gentiles who might otherwise never get that chance. Even when the Jews were scattered under persecution, they taught Jew only. Acts 11:19. They had no intention of going to the gentile. I think scripture showed after Peter to Cornelus you don't hear much of the 12 going to the gentiles. One time with Philip in Samaritans. (So much for the first Pope.) Peter.
@@paulrock4816 Over and over again by WHOM?
"I do not lie, I am an apostle."
"Believe me, I am not lying."
God bless you.
Every word absolutely true. Well done.
I don't even think its possible for you to repent any more and how many you've dipped your hands in their blood is mindblowing seeing as you were one of the first with this apostasy on yt mass dissemination of this was you
You really understand that?
Like what kind of hellfire is stoked up for such things?
Seriously that false doctrine had me lost for a time so I do fully know what I'm talking about and its utter apostasy
Not just that but you disagree with grace so you are already under condemnation and what sacrifice remains without bringing Christ to open shame
None
Paul was talking to people just like you it's clear why you need to uproot him so you can rest as a tare in the garden
But if we toss out Paul we dont have the armor of ephesus. And that's exactly where satan wants the body of Christ defenseless
I really hope you understand how deep that hole you're tap dancing over is
@@jgvtc559 Paul corrupted the teachings of Isa AS and turned him into god sending an entire group of people to hell with Paul leading the charge first of the flame
The reason this speaker, and so many people in the comments are so confused is because they don't know how to rightly divide the word of Truth.
There is no way to get around the fact that Jesus and his apostles taught many things that were completely opposite to what Paul taught.
For example:
James: "You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone." James 2:24
Paul: “A person is justified by faith apart from works..." Romans 3:28
Jesus: "The scribes and Pharisees are seated in the chair of Moses. Therefore do whatever they tell you, and observe it." Matthew 23:1
Paul: "The former law is set aside because it was weak and useless" Hebrews 7:18
Jesus: “... go, show yourself to the priest, and offer the gift that Moses commanded" Matthew 8:4
Paul: "But now we have been released from the law, since we have died to what held us, so that we may serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the old letter of the law." Romans 7:6
How about when someone outright asked Jesus how to be saved in Matthew 19:16:
Just then someone came up and asked him, “Teacher, what good must I DO to have eternal life?”
Did Jesus answer this man by explaining "the gospel" that Paul teaches us to him in 1 Corinthians 15, wish is explained here:
Paul: Now I want to make clear for you, brothers and sisters, the gospel I preached to you,... by which you are being saved... that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, [4] that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures" 1 Corinthians 15
Did Jesus answer by explaining that you don't need to do anything. You just need to believe in my death burial and resurrection?
No, Jesus didn't explain Paul's gospel to this man. (How could he? He hadn't died on the cross yet!) No, instead, Jesus answered this crucial question by commanding him to FOLLOW THE LAW OF MOSES TO BE SAVED.
Jesus said to him “... If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.” Matthew 19:16-17
So here's the question: was Jesus talking to you here? If so, are you obeying this command of Jesus? If not, why are you disobeying Jesus by not following all the Moses laws?
So, I ask you, will you take the first step toward honestly studying the word of truth, and at least admit that the teachings of Jesus and the apostles were sometimes very different, and even opposite to one another?
Trying to claim all these messages are the same, is like trying to say that up is down and down is up.
And these are not trivial matters. They get right to the heart of how we are justified, saved, and made righteous before God.
We CANNOT follow all these teachings. It is literally impossible, because loving by faith and grace is the opposite to following the law.
So we had better figure out who's words we should live by, Jesus, our Lord and savior, and his 12 apostles, or Paul, the apostle to the gentiles.
These contradictions have perplexed, confused, and frustrated pastors, theologians, and anyone trying to read and study the Bible for 2000 years.
Luther was so frustrated, he said the book of James doesn't even belong in the Bible. I''m sure he thought the same thing about the book of John which was also very legalistic in nature.
After studying scripture for 30 years, and listening to many different pastors and theologians discuss this issue, i began to see that everyone was trying to spin these contradictions to make it appear as if they are all saying the same thing.
I understand why. We Christians desperately need to believe that the Bible is 100% true and 100% accurate. If anyone starts claiming there are contradictions, it shakes our faith to the core, because it feels like we can no longer trust what we are reading.
I get it. I'm right there with you. And I held on for the long as I could. Until I got to the point where I was ready to give up on scripture because of these contradictions. I realized I cared more about truth than I did holding on to my own need for security. I could no longer pretend that there were no contradictions in the Bible.
But then I discovered something truly shocking and amazing. I learned how to "rightly divide the word of Truth" , as Paul instructs us to in 2 Tim 2:15:
"Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."
I began to learn that throughout history, from the very early days of the church, there were those that tried to teach us how important it was to rightly divide the scripture in order to understand it properly.
For instance, in 400AD, Augustine wrote:
"Distinguish the ages and the scriptures harmonize"
The shocking truth God led me to see was that Jesus, James, Peter and John taught a different gospel to jews, than Paul taught to us gentiles (non Jews).
I am not alone in this belief. For the past 2000 years, there has always been a snag remnant of true believers who understood these truths. The reason you don't read or hear about these people is because the Roman Catholic church gruesomely murdered anyone who dared speak these truths, and burned any of their writings.
But thankfully, in the last few centuries, as Rome's absolute grip on the minds of men has been forcefully released, a theological framework called dispensationalism has grown to be a prominent view of scripture.
When Jesus teaches to obey the law of Moses, he's not talking to us. We simply recognize that Jesus was himself born under the law, and was talking to Jews under the law, before the cross and before Grace.
Jesus WAS talking to us through Paul when it comes to instructing us as to how we are saved and justify and how we should live our life as gentiles grafted in and adopted into His family.
The theological framework called mid-acts dispensationalism simply takes this concept to its natural conclusions throughout the rest of the Bible.
Consider the following:
While Jesus was alive, he spoke and ministered only to jews. In fact he clearly stated that he came only for the Jews and not the gentiles Mat 24. (In fact, in Mat 24, he ignored a non Jewish lady asking him for help and told her it would be wrong to take the children's food and feed it to dogs, because that's what Jews thought of gentiles at the time. And we were dogs, as Paul said we were outside of salvation, with no hope, and only had God's wrath to look forward to.)
He clearly taught the Jews to continue to observe the laws of Moses.
When he sent his disciples out, he clearly told them to not go to the gentiles but only go to the 12 tribes of Israel.
Jesus did this because he knew God's secret plan after his death would be to reveal a new mystery to Paul alone and make Paul the apostle to the gentiles.
So given that Jesus appeared directly to Paul and gave him a special Revelation to reveal to us gentiles, we need to listen to Paul when it comes to how to live.
If you try to take what Paul says and blend it with what Jesus and the apostles were saying, you are trying to blend two different gospels given it two different time periods to two different audiences.
And no this doesn't mean we follow paul. We are following Jesus's commandments given to Paul for us.
I know what you're saying right now. You think this is crazy. You're saying that you need to follow the words of christ, not Paul.
First off, once again remember that by following the words of paul, you are following the words of Christ. Paul instructs us to follow him as he follows Christ.
Secondly, you are saying, "of course all the words of Christ are written to me". Well let me ask you a question:
Given that Jesus constantly told people to follow the Moses law, why is it so hard to believe that Jesus was talking to Jews before he died on the cross, and that his words were for Jews under the law and not for us under grace.
For 15 years after Jesus's death, Peter, john, and James all continue to practice the moses law, as Jesus instructed them to!
Dispensationalists do worship Jesus and still believe his words. The difference is, we believe in jesus' words that he gave to Paul, because those are the words that were meant for us gentiles.
Paul’s writings is not the word of God! That is why it’s hard to understand!
@@antoniopetra6983 Wrong. You do not have God's spirit loving inside you. That's why YOU can't understand it. Like God says, God's wisdom is foolishness to those living by the flesh.
@@staza1 even Jesus said that the Torah, prophets, writings and his message are authoritative and inspired! Paul saw Satan on the way to Damascus! You’re a m0r0n!
Say this is true, we do not know what parts of the Bible Paul wrote. What do we follow? I find it very confusing.
Many scholars have never accepted Sha'ul's words.
Paul was an imposter because Jesus chose Peter not only as an apostle but also as his successor.
The genuine disciples of Jesus had spent about three years with their Master. It is ironic that so much of the N.T. is attributed to Paul who never spent any time with Jesus. It is revealing that Paul was at odds with Peter and other disciples. So did Paul aka Saul undermine the followers of Jesus by asserting his own beliefs and theology ? Most importantly, did Paul inaugurate a religion of which Jesus would have been opposed, since he had disdain for organized religion?
@@KeepingWatch95 Wow ! You've nailed it from the biblical perspective.
Credible sources like Sufi Mystic Rumi;'s Masnavi and John M Allegro's * The Sacred Mushroom,,....,"and in his translation of "The Dead Sea Scrolls" seem to reveal a Paul with the ongoing personalty of Saul. His apparent conversion facilitated his infiltration into the gatherings of early believers.
Peter is not his Successor lol...Jesus gave 12 thrones to all twelve apostles. All 12 of them are his successors
@@realzhella6817 When you say "thrones," do you mean that they have each got what we used to call water closets?
@@mikebarnes7734 no they each have their own thrones in heaven with continuation of Apostolic authority over the various churches they established. For example st. Bartholomew for the armenian orthodox church, St. Thomas for the Indian Orthodox Church, St. Peter for the syriac Orthodox Church and so on
Robert Eisemann speculates that James was the "opposition Priest" - WHICH EXPLAINS HIS odd power over the others as in Acts 15 (Speaking AFTER there had been agreement )(silence means an agreement had been reached that NOTHING should be placed on the Antioch Gentile believers..BUT!!! let's throw these four in -just to cover our bases. "AS IF THEY DID NOT KNOW FORNICATION WAS WRONG!! So I can see Paul getting sick over the exceptions as he believes the LAW INCREASES SIN! "One should NOT speak against the high priest" May explain why Paul bit his tongue against this FAVORED brother of Jesus, who preaches AGAINST FAVORITISM! I think James was an anathema to Paul and remains that to those of us cannot explain away James 2:21 with Romans 4:5...
Duff Gordon apostle Paul put Peter in his place because he was an error and Peter knew it so he repented and they got along just fine after that
Read the book of Galatians and maybe you’ll understand something about not putting your faith in the law because of putting your faith in Jesus Christ so that he did not die in vain
Its actually very easy to reconcile those passages. READ James 2:21 and take it in context. Faith that doesn't produce love isn't saving faith. Demons have "faith" and shudder.
@@carchibald9322 WRONG SArchibald and everyone who tries to put these two ways of salvation into a false reconciliation. BTW do you know when James talks about demons "believing" DOES NOT USE THE GREEK for head knowledge. Did you know he uses pisteo which is trust, reliance upon-SAVING FAITH- now how do you make sense of that inconvenient truth < Also James 2:21 cannot be reconciled with Paul. or ANY of scripture =For anyone else as James makes his own reality up with NO other source-- 2:21-- Was not our ancestor Abraham justified by works when he offered his son Isaac on the altar?? No James I do NOT!! Because I researched God's words and He says nothing about justifying James rather that He will bless him.. AND WHY WOULD GOD MENTION JUSTIFICATION when in Genesis 15 . God announces in legal terms that "Abraham was justified" James is trying to make the Christian salvation road as never ending battle on whether one "justifies God's earlier justification" !! NO THX! This is what the RCC hangs on to make its case that it is a sin to say one KNOWS he has been justified . This is Paul's knock out punch: "BUT WHEN ONE DOES NOT WORK, YET BELIEVES IN THE ONE WHO JUSTIFIES THE UNGODLY ,HIS FAITH IS CREDITED as RIGHTEOUSNESS" Romans 4:5 THE RC New american Bible. When one who DOES NOT WORK..."continual present" Paul has NO works EVER related to God "justifying (a one time annoucement by God) Paul's "Romans " was never not considered Scripture , But who hear knows when James was finally let in?? IMO there is a battle between James and Paul. God chose to have Iscariot in the twelve- so who are we to say that God could be testing us that his brother preached a false gospel?
@@carchibald9322 Hi Archibald, just one observation, a biblical one, demons have no faith, Hebrews 11 verse 1 is very clear about it.
Demons do not have faith because they are able to see literally God, they used to be in his presence before satan rebelled, do you remember that part of scripture? now as far as james 2 verse 22 you are right, James talks there about obedience if we have faith in our heart we obey but it comes a time when we are not so perfect and
God sees it and justifies you even if you do not have works, [ by faith solo ]do you remember the parable of the pharisee and the tax collector?
he was confesing he fasted he gave the tenth, he had works but he didnot have faith, he did not have humbolness, he was not justified, this is jesus talking.
well , in Romans 4 verse 5 paul talks about being justified by faith, lets remember king David, I have to state that David lived under the law of Moses do you remember that he sinned big time and Nathan the prophet went to him and rebuked him?
King David repented and God justified him and did not killed him, please read psalm 51, it was his confession and evidence that there are circunstances when we do not have works but we have faith in his mercy,
Praise the Lord is by faith because is written by faith the righteous shall live,
righeous in the sense of believing in the works of Jesus the man.
Well have a great day, comments are welcome
“James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.”
James 1:1 KJV
Brother, did you know that the Apostle Paul wrote his Epistles before the four gospels even existed? 🤔 So i would really ask myself how reliable the four gospels are.
Question?
Was Jesus ever wrong?
Because if Paul was a true apostle, it means Jesus was wrong about the future!
And seeing as Jesus had warned the apostles what must take place before his return, i find it a bit hard to believe that he would fail to inform them that he would be popping back for five minutes to convert a murderer called Paul..
Someone that would later go on to take up most of the new testament and change the direction of christianity and contradict much of Jesus teachings is dimething u find impodsible to believe Jesus would over look.
And then to tell them not to worry when he comes knocking claiming he has been called to preach to the gentiles..
"Sorry Peter i know i said you are the rock i will build my church on, and i know you are the one called to preach to the gentiles but Paul will be the one to take over".
Just the dialogue alone of what Paul says took place betweenhim and Jesus on the road to damscus
"Why are you persecuting me"?
Sounds cheesy and again suggests Jesus wouldnt know why, and that he had to ask?
Paul is no different to Muhammed!
Both were false.
The problem i have is why were the disciples not warned by the holyspirit?
Or did God allow this to happen as to weed out the true from the false Christians?
Awesome job.
You may enjoy this Pauline debate th-cam.com/video/i39IZKdLzj8/w-d-xo.html
Paul opposed Peter because he was using favoritism and being hypocritical. Peter called Paul a beloved brother. Paul did NOT teach against the commandments or the laws, BUT taught that KEEPING the commandments does not save us nor do we receive the Holy Spirit by keeping the law. When Peter preached his first message look at all the people who BELIEVED in Jesus and got filled with the Holy Spirit... If you remove the testimony of Paul you may as well throw out John. John 3, 6, 10, and 1 John 3 to be exact...
A blind man can see that the 10 commandments alone cannot save anyone... even Christ taught that... it is no secrete. But what keeping the 10 commandments does do, it shows Jehovah how sincere you are, which can have a lot to do with how you are blessed. It never ceases to amaze me that of all the bible passages, the only few that God Jehovah wrote with His own hand, are the very passages that 99% of the world refuse to keep in entirety.
@@strikemaster1 My experience with the Father and other true believers is that because we have the Holy Spirit, we have the desire to walk in His ways. But we do it out of reverence and to be blessed to have a full life enabling us to be His witnesses to the real Messiah. With that being said, we are in the new blood covenant and with grace have been justified by faith, not obedience. Only one was fully obedient that we, through His finished and complete work, could be reconciled back to the Father..
@@kimwestwood8840 justified by faith, not obedience you say? Even Satan has faith... but is a liar. If you have faith, then you are obedient. If you are not obedient, your faith cannot never justify you, and as The Lord says (not Paul), I never knew you.
@@strikemaster1 I never offer my opinions, but point to scripture. satan has faith? in what? His pride and hatred of God and Christians and mankind separated him from God forever. The enemy's fate is sealed, his end is the lake of fire. Heres Peter's statement about faith..
1 Peter 1: 3" Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, 5 who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
( kept by the power of faith... faith and eternal security is a beautiful thing..)
6 In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, you have been grieved by various trials, 7 that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes, though it is tested by fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ, 8 whom having not seen you love. Though now you do not see Him, yet believing, you rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory, 9 receiving the end of your faith-the salvation of your souls." This particular salvation Peter speaks of is our redemption , not the born again experience of being saved. And again here is eternal security for the true believer...
In context in John 3 Jesus explaining to Nicodemus we must be born again to enter the kingdom of God. . He further explains how.
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should [c]not perish but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
That is Jesus' words. Not Paul's since you obviously reject Paul as an apostle ..
I dont deny obedience is important as I commented before. Paul never denied obedience. But he preached Christ crucified.
Twice Jesus tells us those who believe in Him shall never perish but have eternal life. This is the gospel of salvation..
Matthew 7 tells of a group of people bragging about all their good works. Jesus says I never knew you. Their works versus the power of the cross? They were religious, but false converts..I received the Holy Spirit 28 years ago, but not because of my obedience, but because I believed in the death, burial, and resurrection of the Messiah. His Spirit testifies with my spirit
Salvation and discipleship are 2 entirely different things.
@@strikemaster1 There are many verses about the word faith. Jesus is the author, developer, and finisher of our faith. This morning the Father showed me another verse about faith spoken by Peter.
Acts 10 :43 "To Him ( Jesus) all the prophets witness that, through His name, whoever believes in Him will receive remission of sins.”
To put in context, Peter here is addressing Cornelius and his family about Jesus.
To believe in Him . Only the Father draws people to an encounter with the risen Messiah. Believing in Him, trusting Him, is the gift. God bless
Excellent!
Paul's disagreement in acts 21: 21. .. which further caused Peter and Paul to separate doctrine.. Galatians 2 : 7.. / Titus 1 : 10... The covenant Genesis 17 : 9- 11.. Exodus 12 : 48- 49.. Joshua 5... Ezekiel 44 : 8- 9.. Luke 2 : 21.. John 7 : 23... acts 7: 9.. acts 15: 1...
You know I definitely believe in Jesus and read the Bible but it is all so confusing.
Stay away from fake-Paul and the true names are Yahuah and Yahoshua.
They hate St. Paul because what he wrote in GALATIANS 1:6.
Can you believe the Paul haters here?? I know from this crowd what the wide gate is- Law keeping, which narcissists love to show their love for but are empty suits
This is my recent debate on Pauls teachings vs a Muslim th-cam.com/video/i39IZKdLzj8/w-d-xo.html
@Dwayne Johnson how
Shalom , that is correct! luckily for the many believes of the fisrt century Peter left a testimony about Paul, and it is a good testimony, Paul has been misunderstood, that is what it is.
@@jeanben2176 _It's a good thing Jesus left a testimony about Peter's testimony._
John 21:17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
John 21:18 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: *but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not.*
Thank you 🙏
So what law should we keep
Christians are already keeping about 148 of the 613 Old Testament Laws. Messianic/Hebrew Roots believers keep about 292 and there are about 321 that we would all agree are no longer applicable today, mostly because there is no longer a Temple or Levitical Priesthood. Some of those are debatable because they have to do with jurisprudence and our legal system is different today. Interesting, eh?
@@Eye_Witness thank you for taking the time to reply. That is very interesting
@@andresullivan6473 You're welcome. It took some time to break all of that down and I'm still sort of working and revising some things along those lines. It is somewhat difficult due to the nature of the laws, commandments, judgements and other factors. But it's fun delving into it. Blessings.
@@Eye_Witness well I'm grateful that you have and are still it gives me a place to staft
@@andresullivan6473 Keeping Sabbath was what stuck with me most. My dad was a preacher and couldn't give me any real answers. Nothing made sense. Been keeping a Friday sundown to Saturday sundown Sabbath now for over 25 years. I love it. Ask a lot of questions, but get both sides of any subject. Monte Judah's "Messianic Teachings for Christians" has a lot of info about keeping the Law. Let me know what you think if you watch any of his TH-cam videos. Blessings.
study the characteristics of a narcissistic person then read paul's wrings
Exactly. Sha'ul is the picture of narcissism.
narcissism is how demons act.
Tom Bladecki
You can have him. But the act of not heeding warnings, not even considering them, is the folly of men. You have your ability to choose, but you also have the ability to search this matter out, considering the warnings. I hope that you can bring yourself to that.
@@followeroftheway4325 Very nicely put. It is amazing how a few little trees can hide a whole forest for some. Wink wink nudge nudge say no more :-)
He gave ALL the glory and praise- to Jesus Christ. In his sermons , Paul was inclusive, preaching the Gospel entrusted to him without do this do that,. Rather trust that Christ has done this. YIOU ARE WRONG- James, the Just was the narcissist, could not even see the favoritism showed to him./ Yet preached against partiality while he flew over 80 men !! Plus there is no mention of any power the way Paul , Today- the HATED ONE - I bet you hate sola fide
So what you are saying is that the real apostle for the gentiles is Peter. Curious. Why did Peter not travel to the gentiles and teach them. Why did non of the apostles deal with Paul. I understand Gentiles = non jews however Paul allowed a lot of things from gentiles that were directly against law (idolatry) in the belief of fortifying a relationship with the gentiles and the Lord. How is that possible though if you don't obey his law... Gods law?
@bootsofescaping01
Peace be upon you. I am a Muslim.
Jesus WARNED about Paul and his likes:
Matthew 5:17
Think NOT that I (Jesus) am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 5:18-19 “For verily I say unto you, TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS, one jot or one tittle shall in NO wise pass from the law, till ALL be fulfilled. WHOSOEVER therefore shall break one of these LEAST commandments, and SHALL TEACH men so, he shall be called the LEAST in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”
[[See! ....WHOSOEVER therefore shall break one of these LEAST commandments, and SHALL TEACH men so, he shall be called the LEAST .....]]
Does that ring a bell? Paul is the answer.
********
Obviously, heaven and earth have not yet passed. The fact that you are reading this bears witness to this very simple fact. So Jesus is telling us that so long as creation exists, the laws and the commandments will be required from his followers. Anyone who will dare to say otherwise, until the end of time, will be called “the least in the kingdom of heaven.” Jesus the messiah and messenger had FOREWARNED about mankind’s attempt to distort and annul the commandments (the commandments Moses brought), which he had taught his followers to keep and himself had kept faithfully (along with whatever stipulations that God had prescribed Jesus Christ as per his time and place) throughout his mission on earth, and was warning his followers in no uncertain terms to be wary of all those who would attempt to do so.
Even towards the end of his ministry, Jesus Christ even instructs his disciples and the people to do what the Jew teachers say.
Matthew 23:2-3
2 “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses’ seat;
3 so PRACTICE and OBSERVE WHATEVER they tell you, but not what they do; for they preach, but do not practice.
***************
And what do the Jews teachers, the scribes and the Pharisees tell you?
To KEEP the laws and the commandments.
Jesus tells us that “If a man love me, he WILL KEEP MY WORDS: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” John 14:23.
He taught to KEEP THE LAWS AND THE COMMANDMENTS TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS but Christians, who profess to be followers of the Christ, are doing the exact opposite of what Jesus the Christ himself said. Christians today are the followers of Paul. Christians are NOT the followers of Jesus Christ. Christians in fact ANTI-CHRIST as per fundamental doctrines. The believers in Crucifixion which is an abomination against Jesus Christ because he NEVER got Crucified or killed.
********
Jesus WARNED in Matthew 7:15
Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in SHEEP'S clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
@bootsofescaping01
It's a very serious warning on lack of knowledge and on rejecting knowledge. It's from the very scripture which you profess to uphold. You must heed this warning. The consequence of not heeding this warning is severe: DESTRUCTION
**************
Hosea 4:6
My people are DESTROYED for LACK OF KNOWLEDGE: because thou hast REJECTED KNOWLEDGE, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
@bootsofescaping01
Jesus Christ as well as his message was NEVER meant for the Gentiles. Even as per the scriptures Jesus Christ called them DOGS vs the Children (the Jews). The Jewish Messiah and the Jewish message was preached, corrupted, to the Gentiles and they tore it apart and trampled over it and made abominations out of it.
It's really an ammmmazing situation!
Those professing to love the Messiah, the Christians, are ok with him humiliated and beaten and spat at and tortured, suffering the ignominy of the cross and death with all the nakedness with flies buzzing around. Oh what does this fake easy salvation card, such as sold by Paul, does to a persons thinking! My position as a muslim, a believer in the God of Abraham and Moses and Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them all), is that of a defender of the true honor and status of the beloved Messiah sent by God.
A crucified Messiah is a square circle anyway because if someone claiming to be the Messiah is crucified or killed then he is NOT the true Messiah. According to the many passages, God had foretold again and again in the Old Testament that the Messiah will be will be honored and be saved that God will not let him be humiliated and killed / crucified.
*************
No wonder they mocked the person on the cross because according to the evidence in the scriptures the true Messiah could never be put through such humiliation and death. True Messiah would be saved.
Mark 15:31-32
In the same way the chief priests and the teachers of the law mocked him among themselves. "He saved others," they said, "but he can't save himself!
Let this Messiah, this king of Israel, come down now from the cross, that we may see and believe." Those crucified with him also heaped insults on him.
******
Please pay specially attention to Psalm 91:11-12, 15)
Psalm 91
1 He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty.
2 I will say of the LORD, "He is my refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust."
3 Surely he will save you from the fowler's snare and from the deadly pestilence.
4 He will cover you with his feathers, and under his wings you will find refuge; his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart.
5 You will not fear the terror of night, nor the arrow that flies by day,
6 nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness, nor the plague that destroys at midday.
7 A thousand may fall at your side, ten thousand at your right hand, but it will not come near you.
8 You will ONLY observe with your eyes and see the punishment of the wicked.
9 If you make the Most High your dwelling- even the LORD, who is my refuge-
10 then NO HARM will befall you, no disaster will come near your tent.
11 For he will command his angels concerning you to GUARD you in all your ways;
12 they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone. (If Jesus died on the cross and got buried, then his feet would've struck the ground and the stones on it from bringing him down, throwing him on the floor and burying him).
13 You will tread upon the lion and the cobra; you will trample the great lion and the serpent.
14 "Because he loves me," says the LORD, "I will RESCUE him; I will PROTECT him, for he acknowledges my name.
15 He will call upon me, and I will ANSWER him; I will be with him in trouble, I will deliver him and honor him.
16 With long life will I satisfy him and show him my salvation."
*********
32:9
There is no question that the emphasized parts above, especially in Psalm 91:11-12, 15 and the others, clearly and indisputably agree with the Noble Quran's Verses. Jesus was neither crucified nor resurrected, and he was protected and lifted by GOD Almighty. Also, the New Testament, again, confirms that Psalm 91 is referring to Jesus Christ.
GOD Almighty will HEAR his cries (Psalm 91:15) and will SAVE HIM (Psalm 91:3).
GOD Almighty will cover him with His PROTECTION (Psalm 91:4).
Christ will then not have any fear in him (Psalm 91:5).
Christ will then observe with his own eyes the punishment of the crucified ones (Psalm 91:8).
NO HARM (NO HARM means NO Harm. This includes crucifixion!) or disaster will even come near Christ (Psalm 91:10....this even contradicts him getting beaten up before crucifixion).
GOD Almighty will send down the Angels to protect him and lift him (Psalm 91:11-12, 14). Not even his foot will strike the ground from his enemies pushing, grappling and punishment.
Christ's call will be HEARD, and he will be DELIVERED AND HONORED (Psalm 91:15)
No way would these verses be valid if Christ got crucified.
We MUST remember that Jesus Christ prayed that Crucifixion be taken away from him. We must remember that the prayer of the righteous is POWERFUL and EFFECTIVE.
The Christian position makes Jesus a liar and an UNRIGHTEOUS person with an IMPOTENT and INEFFECTIVE prayer.
You by your position make THE FATHER A TREACHEROUS BACK-STABBER as it was HE who had foretold that NO HARM will befall him and that he will be protected and honored
@bootsofescaping01
The scriptures are the testament that it is the Muslims who are the real upholders and defenders of the true honor and status of the the Messiah sent by God. No wonder THE ONLY TRUE GOD - The Father - has left the previous scriptures in a state to back up HIS true believers - The Muslim. Let the scriptures settle this between us. Let's see if you as a Christian / follower of Yeshua aka Jesus can even take your pick.
*******
Jesus himself prayed that the Cup is taken away from him in the first place. He wanted crucifixion to be taken away from him. As a true submitter to God he then left it in the hand of God. God had already foretold His will that NO HARM will befall him and that he will be protected and honored.
Mark 14:36
And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; TAKE AWAY THIS CUP FROM ME: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.
(Matthew 26:39, Mark 14:36, Luke 22:42).
Going by the testimony of Jesus himself, we are told that God heard him "ALWAYS".
[[ "And Jesus lifted up his eyes (towards heaven), and said,Father, I THANK THEE that THOU HAST HEARD ME.
"And I know that THOU HEAREST ME ALWAYS: .....]] John 11:41-43
ALWAYS!
If Crucifixion was NOT taken away as per the prayer of Jesus, this "always" becomes a LIE from the lips of Jesus.
Take your pick.
Moving on.
Jesus himself says in Matthew 7:7-11 "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. "Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, HOW MUCH MORE WILL YOUR FATHER IN HEAVEN GIVE GOOD GIFTS TO THOSE WHO ASK HIM!
Who asked?
Jesus
[Mark 14:36
And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; TAKE AWAY THIS CUP FROM ME: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.]
Jesus himself asks that the Crucifixion be taken away from him BUT as per the Christian position the Father gives him the crucifixion. By that position, Jesus asked for bread BUT the Father gave him a stone. Jesus asked for a fish BUT the Father gave him a snake. Your position makes the Father even less than the worldly fathers. Jesus puts his trust in the Father BUT the Father gives him the exactly what he prayed to be taken away.
Take your pick.
Moving on.
James 5
Verse 16
Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The PRAYER of a RIGHTEOUS person is powerful and EFFECTIVE. Now James gives us an example in James 5:17-18 Elijah was a human being, even as we are. He prayed earnestly that it would not rain, and it did not rain on the land for three and a half years. Again he prayed, and the heavens gave rain, and the earth produced its crops.
******
So if a righteous person prays his prayer is POWERFUL and EFFECTIVE James 5 Verse 16
Lets see if Jesus was righteous. I hope he was.
*****Who prayed? Who asked?
Jesus
Mark 14:36
And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; TAKE AWAY THIS CUP FROM ME: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.
(Mark 14:36, Matthew 26:39, Luke 22:42)]
Hope Jesus was righteous. Hope his prayer was effective.
The Christian position confirms his prayer to be IMPOTENT and INEFFECTIVE.
So what kind of a person "died for the sins" of you?
- one who lied (as per the evidence if we go by the your position)
- one who was not righteous (as per the evidence if we go by your position)
You have a choice.
Take your pick.
****
And before you bring in the this and that of "nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt."
Well, it's a given.
For example:
Tom prays to God:
Father, all things are possible unto thee; BLESS ME WITH A BABY BOY: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.
Dick prays to God:
Father, all things are possible unto thee; TAKE ME OUT OF DEBT BEFORE THE START OF NEXT YEAR: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.
Harry prays to God:
Father, all things are possible unto thee; MAKE ME RECOVER FROM MY INJURY BEFORE THE FINALS SO I CAN PLAY THE FINALS: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.
So the prayer in each case comes BEFORE one surrenders it to God. Just like in the case of Jesus. His prayer in the first place was that the Cup is TAKEN AWAY from him.
@bootsofescaping01
Remember the Psalm that I quoted earlier where it says that he will ONLY OBSERVE with his eyes the punishment of the wicked. Jesus was saved by God and protected from the humiliation and the ignoble death as the Psalm foretold.
*******
This is what the earliest Gospel Mark 15:21-26 reads in the translations.
21
A certain man from Cyrene, Simon, the father of Alexander and Rufus, was passing by on his way in from the country, and they forced HIM to carry the cross.22
They brought Jesus to the place called Golgotha (which means "the place of the skull").23
Then they offered HIM wine mixed with myrrh, but he did not take it.
24
And they crucified HIM. Dividing up his clothes, they cast lots to see what each would get
25
It was nine in the morning when they crucified HIM.26
The written notice of the charge against him read: the king of the jews.
NOW PREPARE FOR THE SHOCK!
In actuality, IN verse 22, It’s NOT Jesus in Greek. It is HIM αὐτὸν
NOT Jesus Ἰησοῦς
The translators have manipulated to try and evade and twist what is there. Manipulating and deceiving to make it about Jesus.
So in actuality it is:
Mark 15:21-26
21
A certain man from Cyrene, Simon, the father of Alexander and Rufus, was passing by on his way in from the country, AND THEY FORCED HIM to carry the cross.
22
THEY BROUGHT HIM to the place called Golgotha (which means "the place of the skull").
23
THEN THEY OFFERED HIM wine mixed with myrrh, but he did not take it.24
AND THEY CRUCIFIED HIM. Dividing up his clothes, they cast lots to see what each would get.
25
It was nine in the morning WHEN THEY CRUCIFIED HIM.26
The written notice of the charge against HIM read: the king of the jews.
In all it’s correct form without manipulation, it is talking about Simon from Cyrene. Not Jesus. It wasn't Jesus who was crucified. Just like the Psalm foretold.
********
Deception to promote the Fiction they call "Crucifixion". These are the kind of deceivers making it appear about Jesus. In the footsteps of the inventor and promoter of "MY Gospel" fiction called Crucifixion: Paul / Saul the deceiver
Acts 15:7 doesn't mean that only Peter was chosen to "go to the Gentiles". That's a complete miss representation of scripture. Pls don't do that...Next the circumcision issue with Paul vs Peter is not a disagreement at all. Peter and James with Paul clearly stated that they preach the same Gospel but naturally the circumcision issue became a point of discussion later but didn't mean that Paul was now preaching a different Gospel. That's very untrue. Naturally a jew who comes to the messiah has a different stand to Torah laws than a Gentile and Paul was right that a Gentile did not have to obey these laws. Paul had his knowledge through the Holy Spirit and was blessed with that knowledge.
Paul in the Jerusalem council is what you speak of whith James as the head of the Jerusalem church who was still a Jewish Christian and Peter was there also and the disagreement over the law and circumcision
Well I am not willing to take out Luke as Luke travelled with Paul on some of his journeys walking long roads and he never mentioned that Paul was false..and Timothy definitely believe Paul.. and even though they all did not agree on everything Peter finally got it... and he said this about Paul.. 2Peter 15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
However Paul is willing to take out Jesus' teachings, so don't follow Paul as an inplacement of Jesus.
Yeah I'm currently looking into luke as well... I know paul was a false teacher..so I have to keep a keen eye on Luke now....
@@kingdomtruther6922 Luke dosen't present himself a teacher as Paul does. It appears Luke recorded things that were told to him by others, much as an unbias reporter used to do.
@@KeepingWatch95 he’s not though. Paul agrees with Jesus’ teachings. Jesus said he came to fulfill the law, not abolish it. He fulfilled the law in the sense that he “completed” it. He obeyed it fully and was perfect. Paul speaks more on this in his letters. The gospels also mention Jesus will die, John also clearly refers to Jesus’ divinity. The gospels record Jesus saying “Love your God, Love your neighbor, that on these 2 rules depend all of the law”. And also Luke wrote both acts and the gospel of Luke, Acts mentions Jesus’ resurrection. James also mentions Jesus as “the Lord” in the book of James. Gospel of Luke mentions Jesus as the messiah as well, something Jews disageee with. If Luke is untrustworthy, then you would have to conclude that Acts is also untrustworthy, because Like wrote both. But Acts is where most of this videos’ “proof” comes from, so then what?
If you really think about It, it would not make sense for Paul to be the inventor of christianity, because the gospels and even other books like John and James seem to follow the same doctrine Paul is following. So either the ENTIRE new testament is corrupt or it’s not. Not just Paul’s books.
@@MarvelousSquad _From even the very first claim by Paul to have met with Jesus on the way to Damascus is false per Jesus' foretelling and forewarning._
_Jesus forewarned of false prophets to come. Jesus told what they would claim and instructed not to believe them._
Matthew 24:23 *Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.*
Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, *and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders;* insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Matthew 24:25 *Behold, I have told you before.*
Matthew 24:26 *Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert;* go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; *believe it not.*
Matthew 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
(Note: Matthew 24:26 the word “Desert” also means wilderness.)
G2048 ἔρημος erēmos er'-ay-mos
Of uncertain affinity; lonesome, that is, (by implication) waste (usually as a noun, G5561 being implied): - desert, desolate, solitary, wilderness.
(In Acts 9:3 Paul claims he met Jesus in the wilderness/desert.)
Acts 9:3 And as *he journeyed, he came near Damascus:* and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:
(Acts 9:3 the road to Damascus was in the wilderness. See 1 Kings 19:15 which records the way to Damascus is wilderness/desert.)
1 Kings 19:15 And the LORD said unto him, Go, return on thy way to the wilderness of Damascus: and when thou comest, anoint Hazael to be king over Syria:
(Note: 1 Kings 19:15 the Hebrew word “wilderness” H4057 also means desert.)
H4057מִדְבָּר midbâr mid-bawr'
From H1696 in the sense of driving; a pasture (that is, open field, whither cattle are driven); by implication a desert; also speech (including its organs): - desert, south, speech, wilderness.
_If one truly believes Jesus' warning they can not believe Paul's false claim. The only way to believe Paul's story is true, one has to discredit Jesus' warnings and instructions as false._
I agree with Zane Pierce, another fine presentation. Thank you for helping us to understand the Law. Shalom
There shall no one justified through the law, Law is the knowledge of sin. Law tells you you are guilty of sin but doesn't offer forgiveness. If you break any of the Law you are guilty of the whole law. At least we have a Savior named Jesus, who took our sins, & took the Law & nailing it to the cross.
@@paulrock4816 there are laws from the destroyer and the Creator in the Tanakh. The sons and daughters of the Most High are not to follow the laws of the destroyer (animal sacrifices and other laws that pertain). The word 'legalism' is not in the scriptures, but 'lawlessness' is. Those who follow man instead of Messiah regard the true followers as 'legalist' as though obedience is somehow wrong. They just don't understand gratitude...not in their nature. They only obey to avoid punishment. That's Paulism (Christians and Messianics)
@@paulrock4816 you idiot! How do you think people were saved before christ. Stop peddling misinformation and lies. Your apostle was a fraud, get over it.
@Tom Bladecki Your Roman diety jesus never existed. Yeshua ha mashiach, king of israel did exist. Paul was not an apostle. The gospels, book of acts, and revelations only mention 12 disciples. There is no 13th disciple/apostle. Paul was a self-proclaimed apostle and this is proven in acts. Matthias became the 12th disciple after Judas died not paul!!
William Welch if you live by the law you are cursed
Read Galatians spoken by our blessed apostle Paul who knew Jesus more intimately and worked more graciously for the gospel than any other apostles
The next issue to adress is Galatians 2. It is not what he and they had been, but what they now were: he could have observed, that they were persons formerly of a very low figure in life, of mean occupations, fishermen by employment, and very illiterate persons, when he was bred a scholar at the feet of Gamaliel; but he chose not to make such observations, he knew that God was no respecter of persons, nor was he influenced by any such external circumstances, but chose whom he pleased to such an high office; and that he, who of fishermen made them apostles, of a persecutor had made him one also. Or these false teachers perhaps had objected to him, that these valuable men had been with Christ from the beginning, were eyewitnesses of his majesty, heard the doctrines of the Gospel from his lips, and saw his miracles, had had a similar conversation with him, when he was a preacher of much later date, and could not pretend to such advantages, and therefore ought not to be equalled to them: his answer is, that whatever privileges of this kind they had enjoyed, as could not be denied but they were considerable, yet this mattered not, nor did it make any great difference between him and them; he had seen Christ too, though as one born out of due time; had received an immediate commission from him to preach his Gospel, and was appointed an apostle by him as they were, without any respect of persons: and whereas it might have been urged, that these men had entertained different sentiments from him formerly, concerning the observance of the law, he signifies he had nothing to do with that, to their own master they stood, to whom they must give an account, who, without respect of persons, will render to every man according to his works. This is how to understand it, pls don't read anything else into it in order not to pile great sin upon yourself. Its clear that Paul and the apostles preached the same Gospel!!!!! The same. There is no difference. Repent therefore. Shalom
thank you for this
Mattias was elected 12 in acts 1..Saul/Paul scattered, made Christianity, and finished in Rome. a Pharisee which Jesus warned. Genesis17 exodus12 Joshua 5 numbers9 John 7 : 23 acts 7 : 8
Please read and consider Acts 28:1-28
@@rodlancaster6431 I have read and considered it.
Read and consider Paul's own admitted double-mindedness.
"To the Jew, I was a Jew. To the Greek a Greek"
Narrow or broad?
@@Hebrew42Day culture and customs , as the proverb went when in Rome be like the romans, and if you read in context he clarified as not without torah.
Your interpretation is wrong
“Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they. Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.”
Acts 15:10-12 KJV
“And when we were come to Jerusalem, the brethren received us gladly. And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present. And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry. And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law: And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs. What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come. Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them; Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law. As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication. Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them. And when the seven days were almost ended, the Jews which were of Asia, when they saw him in the temple, stirred up all the people, and laid hands on him, Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place. (For they had seen before with him in the city Trophimus an Ephesian, whom they supposed that Paul had brought into the temple.) And all the city was moved, and the people ran together: and they took Paul, and drew him out of the temple: and forthwith the doors were shut. And as they went about to kill him, tidings came unto the chief captain of the band, that all Jerusalem was in an uproar.”
Acts 21:17-31 KJV
“But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel: For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.”
Acts 9:15-16 KJV
“Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins: And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.”
Acts 13:38-39 KJV
Thank you for your comments Jessel. The reason people are confused is because they fail to rightly divide the Word of Truth, 2 Timothy 2 15. May I recommend alreadyforgiven.com and truthtimeradio.com who practice rightly dividing the Word of Truth in order to understand the Bible.
Freedom in Christ Thank you, I am familiar with both already I appreciate it.
Thank-you we were never under the law but under grace. Paul's gospel is the cross & the blood of Jesus. Jews were looking for the Kingdom we gentiles were not. Blood of Jesus Saves/ cleans/sanctifies/justifies/ makes us righteous/intercede for us/gives us access to the throne of Mercy. Acts 15 (Luke's version) Gal: 2 (Paul's version ) of the Jerusalem council, of Paul's gospel of Gal 1:11 which come down to 1st Cor. 15:1-4. The gospel we preach/you receive/ye stand/& ye are saved by. Jesus died for our sins buried & 3rd day rose again. unless you believed in vain.
@@paulrock4816 without the law you're under the curses.
Paul Rock Acts 15 is corrupt. Also, why quote Paul and not anyone else? Learn what grace actually is. It’s earned. Yahusha said so! The kingdom is coming. Repent, for the kingdom is at hand. Do you reject Yahusha for Paul? Paul is NOT the Moshaich. Yahsuha is. A totally depraved man (Paul called himself that) cannot deliver you.
Well done.
Then why Paul's letters are in the Holy Bible?
Cause the pagan Catholics canonised it!
Isn't it obvious Christianity is not the teachings of Jesus nor the Apostles. Christianity is the product of Paul with the backing of Roman Empire. Apostles names such as John n Mathew were used to give the Gospel some credibility. Paul was against the true teachings of Jesus. That's why he was against the Apostles, particularly Peter. Paul is a self appointed apostle and create trinity. Jesus never prayed to idols. He was circumcised. He never ate pork. He never claimed divinity as said in the Gospel of John ,I am. Gospel of John are not words of Jesus according to John. They all books fabricated in the name of Jesus and the pious Apostles. Muslims believe in the Gospel of Jesus, INJIL, not the Gospels of Mark, Luke, Mathew or John. The teachings of Paul with the backing of the Roman Empire goes against the first n second commandments of the Old Testament of which Jesus said had come to fulfill it Peace be Upon Jesus n his holy mother Mary. 2 Big names among those highly revered in the Quran.
Paul was confronting those of the circumcision who where teaching just like in Acts that you can only be saved if you get circumcised. Which again we know it’s not true. It’s by Messiah. Then when we have the Torah on our hearts we follow because of our salvation not for it. I use to think Paul was against Torah when I was a trinitarian but not no more. Yeshua followed Torah and Paul followed Yeshua. Yah bless!
Keeping the commandments is what jesus taught, period! Paul is a false teacher, accept it and move on.
When I begin the video, I fully expected you to do some mental gymnastics to try to fit Paul into the teachings of Jesus despite the evidence you first laid out, but I was relieved to hear how honest you are about Paul. Thank you and may the Holy Spirit keep you.
‘Judas’ is the name of (3) disciples - Yehudah bar Shimeon Ish-keryiah (Judas son of Simon the Bursar, ‘the man who hands out’ whose title was after the crucifixion later changed to ‘Ish-Keryiota’ = ‘the man who handed-over’ I.e. betrayed), Yehudah bar Yosef haTomah (Judas son of Joseph called Didymos Thomas ‘the Twin’ I.e. body-double) and Yehudah haLevi (‘Judas the Levite’ aka Theudas or ‘Thaddeus Lebbaeus’) - so when it comes to naming ‘the 12’ it can get confusing …
This is especially difficult when only ‘Matthew’ is listed as one of the 12 in the gospel that bears his name (Luke & Mark has ‘Levi’ instead) - since Luke-Acts chapter 1 has a ‘Matathiah’ chosen to replace Ish-Keryiota by lots it is possible that this ‘replacement disciple’ was the same ‘Matthew’ that ‘collected the Oracles of the Lord (messiah-prophecies) in Hebrew letters and thus the rest of them had to translate and interpret them as best they could…’ [Bishop Papias of Smyrna c. 95 CE quoted by Eusebeius in his Ecclesiastical History c. 325 CE]
At least this would account for ‘Matthew’s’ refrain ‘now this was done to fulfill what was spoken by the prophet so-and-so’ in the first gospel that bears his name - this replacement disciple apparently could read & write to a certain extent (was he a tax-collector?) unlike the illiterate Galilean fishermen-disciples that Jesus chose ‘to be with him’…
But to address the rift that existed between the strict-Torah-abiding Daviddic brother of Jesus and that ‘heretical’ upstart nobody (‘Shaoul of Tarsus’ who was born in Greek speaking Cilicia in present-day Turkey) who never even met ‘Jesus’ in person (let alone heard him preach) only in dreams and visions like my gardener…) is a thorny problem for the church that often gets band-aided over by ‘Pauline gentile antiTorah antiCircumcision Christians’ but a close-reading of the mangled Greek hand copied texts of Matthew & the Book of Revelation seems to indicate Jesus promoted strict Torah observance along the lines of James his brother -
See the two swipes at Paul we can discern
in Revelation 2:9 & 3:9 ‘Pay no heed to those men walking about claiming to be ‘Judaean-born’ or ‘Apostles’ but are nothing of the kind whatsoever - for they are in fact Liars & Deceivers of the Synagogue of Satan !’
James the Just was the Daviddic blood-brother of Jesus and even though he himself was not a disciple he immediately took-over as head of the Yahadim in Jerusalem by virtue of his Daviddic blood-even ‘Shaoul of Tarsus aka ‘Paul’ had to report to him although very unwillingly (Acts tells the story of James sending out sours to report back on what ‘Paul’ was preaching to uncircumcised gentile ‘god-fearers’ before being angrily summoned to Jerusalem to explain himself to James ‘and the Council of Elders’ - but Paul’s ego wouldn’t stand for a brow-beating and wrote angrily to the Galatians ‘so I decided on my own to travel to Jerusalem to meet with those who considered themselves leaders there - after receiving a vision in a dream…’ see Galatians 2:2
The vitriol later in Galatians chapter 2 reveals the snide jealousy he had of Jesus’ own Daviddic family & his original Galilean followers (‘and those ‘so-call’d Pillars’, James [bar-Zavdai] and John [his brother] and [Simon Peter] ‘Kefah’ the latter of whom he met later at Antioch and called him an hypocrite & told-off right to his face…
It’s time the writings attributed to ‘that heretic Paul’ were relegated to the Appendix of Christian New Testament bibles so those who wish to study the ideas of the earliest nszorean messianists beginning with Jesus’ oracles in the gospels and including ‘the epistles of James’ & ‘the epistle of Jude’ and ‘Revelation’ to get back to true orthodoxy with respect to the earliest kerygma of the ‘church’ .
The Law can be divided into two parts. The first is the Law of God in the 10 Commandments called the Moral Law, and the Law of Moses which include the food, sacrificial, and ceremonial Laws. The former is mandatory, and the later advisory. The former is of God and the latter of man. The former is the original of God and the latter added by man.
The 12 disciples teach what Yahoshua himself TAUGHT them. Paul teaches what HE THINKS.
This is a difficult area because there is no argument that both teachings are not in harmony, so one is in a technical way "Antichrist"... but on the other hand, Yahoshua once said... "if he is not against Me, then he is for Me". As for my own personal view... I choose the way taught by Yahoshua because of Pauls lack of power to heal himself. Let me see your power first; then I will believe. In all my many visits to churches all over Australia that follow the teachings of Paul but hardly ever speak of the teachings of Christ, I am yet to see even one true healing that lasts.
@Mikey Srrikey
This one is a separate thread from the other one where you replied to me and I responded back. That one continues there 😊 BUT right here is another subject. Jesus Christ was NEITHER killed NOR crucified.
***********
It's really an ammmmazing situation!
Those professing to love the Messiah, the Christians, are ok with him humiliated and beaten and spat at and tortured, suffering the ignominy of the cross and death with all the nakedness with flies buzzing around. Oh what does this fake easy salvation card, such as sold by Paul, does to a persons thinking! My position as a muslim, a believer in the God of Abraham and Moses and Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them all), is that of a defender of the true honor and status of the beloved Messiah sent by God.
A crucified Messiah is a square circle anyway because if someone claiming to be the Messiah is crucified or killed then he is NOT the true Messiah. According to the many passages, God had foretold again and again in the Old Testament that the Messiah will be will be honored and be saved that God will not let him be humiliated and killed / crucified.
*************
No wonder they mocked the person on the cross because according to the evidence in the scriptures the true Messiah could never be put through such humiliation and death. True Messiah would be saved.
Mark 15:31-32
In the same way the chief priests and the teachers of the law mocked him among themselves. "He saved others," they said, "but he can't save himself!
Let this Messiah, this king of Israel, come down now from the cross, that we may see and believe." Those crucified with him also heaped insults on him.
******
Please pay specially attention to Psalm 91:11-12, 15)
Psalm 91
1 He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty.
2 I will say of the LORD, "He is my refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust."
3 Surely he will save you from the fowler's snare and from the deadly pestilence.
4 He will cover you with his feathers, and under his wings you will find refuge; his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart.
5 You will not fear the terror of night, nor the arrow that flies by day,
6 nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness, nor the plague that destroys at midday.
7 A thousand may fall at your side, ten thousand at your right hand, but it will not come near you.
8 You will ONLY observe with your eyes and see the punishment of the wicked.
9 If you make the Most High your dwelling- even the LORD, who is my refuge-
10 then NO HARM will befall you, no disaster will come near your tent.
11 For he will command his angels concerning you to GUARD you in all your ways;
12 they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone. (If Jesus died on the cross and got buried, then his feet would've struck the ground and the stones on it from bringing him down, throwing him on the floor and burying him).
13 You will tread upon the lion and the cobra; you will trample the great lion and the serpent.
14 "Because he loves me," says the LORD, "I will RESCUE him; I will PROTECT him, for he acknowledges my name.
15 He will call upon me, and I will ANSWER him; I will be with him in trouble, I will deliver him and honor him.
16 With long life will I satisfy him and show him my salvation."
*********
32:9
There is no question that the emphasized parts above, especially in Psalm 91:11-12, 15 and the others, clearly and indisputably agree with the Noble Quran's Verses. Jesus was neither crucified nor resurrected, and he was protected and lifted by GOD Almighty. Also, the New Testament, again, confirms that Psalm 91 is referring to Jesus Christ.
GOD Almighty will HEAR his cries (Psalm 91:15) and will SAVE HIM (Psalm 91:3).
GOD Almighty will cover him with His PROTECTION (Psalm 91:4).
Christ will then not have any fear in him (Psalm 91:5).
Christ will then observe with his own eyes the punishment of the crucified ones (Psalm 91:8).
NO HARM (NO HARM means NO Harm. This includes crucifixion!) or disaster will even come near Christ (Psalm 91:10....this even contradicts him getting beaten up before crucifixion).
GOD Almighty will send down the Angels to protect him and lift him (Psalm 91:11-12, 14). Not even his foot will strike the ground from his enemies pushing, grappling and punishment.
Christ's call will be HEARD, and he will be DELIVERED AND HONORED (Psalm 91:15)
No way would these verses be valid if Christ got crucified.
We MUST remember that Jesus Christ prayed that Crucifixion be taken away from him. We must remember that the prayer of the righteous is POWERFUL and EFFECTIVE.
The Christian position makes Jesus a liar and an UNRIGHTEOUS person with an IMPOTENT and INEFFECTIVE prayer.
You by your position make THE FATHER A TREACHEROUS BACK-STABBER as it was HE who had foretold HIS will that he will be protected and honored and that NO HARM will befall him
@Mikey Strikey
The scriptures are the testament that it is the Muslims who are the real upholders and defenders of the true honor and status of the the Messiah sent by God. No wonder THE ONLY TRUE GOD - The Father - has left the previous scriptures in a state to back up HIS true believers - The Muslim. Let the scriptures settle this between us. Let's see if you as a Christian can even take your pick. The more you evade the more its gonna publicly expose the falsehood called Crucifixion.
*******
Jesus himself prayed that the Cup is taken away from him in the first place. He wanted crucifixion to be taken away from him. As a true submitter to God he then left it in the hand of God. God had already foretold His will that NO HARM will befall him and that he will be protected and honored.
Mark 14:36
And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; TAKE AWAY THIS CUP FROM ME: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.
(Matthew 26:39, Mark 14:36, Luke 22:42).
Going by the testimony of Jesus himself, we are told that God heard him "ALWAYS".
[[ "And Jesus lifted up his eyes (towards heaven), and said,Father, I THANK THEE that THOU HAST HEARD ME.
"And I know that THOU HEAREST ME ALWAYS: .....]] John 11:41-43
ALWAYS!
If Crucifixion was NOT taken away as per the prayer of Jesus, this "always" becomes a LIE from the lips of Jesus.
Take your pick.
Moving on.
Jesus himself says in Matthew 7:7-11 "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. "Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, HOW MUCH MORE WILL YOUR FATHER IN HEAVEN GIVE GOOD GIFTS TO THOSE WHO ASK HIM!
Who asked?
Jesus
[Mark 14:36
And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; TAKE AWAY THIS CUP FROM ME: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.]
Jesus himself asks that the Crucifixion be taken away from him BUT as per the Christian position the Father gives him the crucifixion. By that position, Jesus asked for bread BUT the Father gave him a stone. Jesus asked for a fish BUT the Father gave him a snake. Your position makes the Father even less than the worldly fathers. Jesus puts his trust in the Father BUT the Father gives him the exactly what he prayed to be taken away.
Take your pick.
Moving on.
James 5
Verse 16
Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The PRAYER of a RIGHTEOUS person is powerful and EFFECTIVE. Now James gives us an example in James 5:17-18 Elijah was a human being, even as we are. He prayed earnestly that it would not rain, and it did not rain on the land for three and a half years. Again he prayed, and the heavens gave rain, and the earth produced its crops.
******
So if a righteous person prays his prayer is POWERFUL and EFFECTIVE James 5 Verse 16
Lets see if Jesus was righteous. I hope he was.
*****Who prayed? Who asked?
Jesus
Mark 14:36
And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; TAKE AWAY THIS CUP FROM ME: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.
(Mark 14:36, Matthew 26:39, Luke 22:42)]
Hope Jesus was righteous. Hope his prayer was effective.
The Christian position confirms his prayer to be IMPOTENT and INEFFECTIVE.
So what kind of a person "died for the sins" of you?
- one who lied (as per the evidence if we go by the your position)
- one who was not righteous (as per the evidence if we go by your position)
You have a choice.
Take your pick.
****
And before you bring in the this and that of "nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt."
Well, it's a given.
For example:
Tom prays to God:
Father, all things are possible unto thee; BLESS ME WITH A BABY BOY: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.
Dick prays to God:
Father, all things are possible unto thee; TAKE ME OUT OF DEBT BEFORE THE START OF NEXT YEAR: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.
Harry prays to God:
Father, all things are possible unto thee; MAKE ME RECOVER FROM MY INJURY BEFORE THE FINALS SO I CAN PLAY THE FINALS: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.
So the prayer in each case comes BEFORE one surrenders it to God. Just like in the case of Jesus. His prayer in the first place was that the Cup is TAKEN AWAY from him.
@Mikey Strikey
Remember the Psalm that I quoted earlier where it says that he will ONLY OBSERVE with his eyes the punishment of the wicked. Jesus was saved by God and protected from the humiliation and the ignoble death as the Psalm foretold.
*******
This is what the earliest Gospel Mark 15:21-26 reads in the translations.
21
A certain man from Cyrene, Simon, the father of Alexander and Rufus, was passing by on his way in from the country, and they forced HIM to carry the cross.22
They brought Jesus to the place called Golgotha (which means "the place of the skull").23
Then they offered HIM wine mixed with myrrh, but he did not take it.
24
And they crucified HIM. Dividing up his clothes, they cast lots to see what each would get
25
It was nine in the morning when they crucified HIM.26
The written notice of the charge against him read: the king of the jews.
NOW PREPARE FOR THE SHOCK!
In actuality, IN verse 22, It’s NOT Jesus in Greek. It is HIM αὐτὸν
NOT Jesus Ἰησοῦς
The translators have manipulated to try and evade and twist what is there. Manipulating and deceiving to make it about Jesus.
So in actuality it is:
Mark 15:21-26
21
A certain man from Cyrene, Simon, the father of Alexander and Rufus, was passing by on his way in from the country, AND THEY FORCED HIM to carry the cross.
22
THEY BROUGHT HIM to the place called Golgotha (which means "the place of the skull").
23
THEN THEY OFFERED HIM wine mixed with myrrh, but he did not take it.24
AND THEY CRUCIFIED HIM. Dividing up his clothes, they cast lots to see what each would get.
25
It was nine in the morning WHEN THEY CRUCIFIED HIM.26
The written notice of the charge against HIM read: the king of the jews.
In all it’s correct form without manipulation, it is talking about Simon from Cyrene. Not Jesus. It wasn't Jesus who was crucified. Just like the Psalm foretold.
********
Deception to promote the Fiction they call "Crucifixion". These are the kind of deceivers making it appear about Jesus. In the footsteps of the inventor and promoter of "MY Gospel" fiction called Crucifixion: Paul / Saul the deceiver
@Mikey Strikey
So from the cracks we are able to see through that Paul would go to a certain place and give his narrative to the people. However, there would be certain people / messengers going across who would give a different narrative/ different Gospel to the same people that had been exposed to Paul earlier. THEN Paul would write letters to those places / public again to try and convince them to come back to the narrative that he had presented and that those people had now discredited, disbanded, abandoned. Of course that counter narrative / Gospel to the one by Paul was considered authentic by those people. There is already evidence of ANOTHER GOSPEL AND ANOTHER JESUS which is contrary to Paul's "MY Gospel" and people are QUICKLY abandoning the Paul's abomination "My Gospel".
Galatians 1:6
I am astonished that you are SO QUICKLY DESERTING the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ AND ARE TURNING TO A DIFFERENT GOSPEL--
"....... ANOTHER GOSPEL -"
We also see that Paul has to constantly defend himself. Obviously there would people who were teaching counter to Paul and would be going around telling people that what Paul is teaching is falsehood.
20
I assure you before God that what I am writing you is no lie.
**********
We can also observe the term "MY GOSPEL" from the lips of Paul.
This will take place on the day when God judges people's secrets through Jesus Christ, AS MY GOSPEL declares.
*******
So coming back, we see that there would be certain people / messengers going across who would give a different narrative/ Gospel to the same people that had been exposed to Paul earlier.
Galatians
3:1
O foolish Galatians, WHO hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
[You foolish Galatians! WHO has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified.]
It's Paul who is upset and desperately wants to PORTRAY that Jesus Christ was crucified. It was Paul who had PORTRAYED that Jesus Christ was actually crucified. It's Paul who invented and promoted the false Gospel - the fiction called Crucifixion. It's Paul who TRICKED people into believing this fiction called Crucifixion.
***************
We have to "thank" Paul the deceiver for the MUTILATION of the teachings of Jesus Christ himself and whoever were the actual disciples of Jesus. (We already know that Paul NEVER EVER met Jesus while Jesus walked this earth and preached the "Gospel".). Even his "vision" accounts are conflicting.
So coming to Paul, what was metaphorical and figurative to the Jew, he presented it as literal to the gentiles. For example, 2000 years ago, in the Jewish context, the term "Son of God" meant a righteous person. The same expression in the Greek and Roman context would have meant Hercules or some literal "Son of God". Those Greeks and Romans bought that.
Same with the "dying" and "rising" in Jewish idioms and metaphors. To the Jew it meant someone coming close to death but then being saved by the skin of the teeth at the last moment when every one expects the person to be dead but the person is saved.
The same "dying" and "rising" expression in the Greek and Roman context meant dying and rising deities with their mythology and all and the sacrifice practices of the pagans.
God had foretold again and again in the OT that He will save the Messiah and will protect him and honor him. The prayer of Jesus that the Cup is taken away from him is a powerful testament.
If Jesus Christ or the actual disciples used a certain language, it's clear that it's all referenced in the Jewish context as someone coming close to dying but then surviving by a miracle so it's a metaphorical death and resurrection (just like Issac considered sacrifice even though he was saved by a miracle) so that people may believe and repent.
@@@@@ David used the same language for himself in Psalm 86:13
Young's Literal Translation
For Thy kindness is great toward me, And Thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest Sheol.
*******
Now you need to tell me when David died and wrote this after his resurrection?????
@@@@@
It's the language of the Jews, the message of which was mutilated and distorted to go hand in hand with human sacrifices of the pagans (who were foreign to it) over the years.
[[We can clearly see that when the message from a Prophet is not held on to, there are ramifications and grave consequences. The message was EXPLICIT.
Matthew 10:5-6
These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go NOT INTO THE WAY OF THE GENTILES, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye NOT:
But go rather TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL.
******
Acts 11:19
Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to NONE BUT UNTO THE JEWS ONLY.
***********
So from the cracks we are able to see through that Paul would go to a certain place and give his narrative to the people. However, there would be certain people / messengers going across who would give a different narrative/ different Gospel to the same people that had been exposed to Paul earlier. THEN Paul would write letters to those places / public again to try and convince them to come back to the narrative that he had presented and that those people had now discredited, disbanded, abandoned. Of course that counter narrative / Gospel to the one by Paul was considered authentic by those people. There is already evidence of ANOTHER GOSPEL AND ANOTHER JESUS which is contrary to Paul's "MY Gospel" and people are QUICKLY abandoning the Paul's abomination "My Gospel".
Galatians 1:6
I am astonished that you are SO QUICKLY DESERTING the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ AND ARE TURNING TO A DIFFERENT GOSPEL--
"....... ANOTHER GOSPEL -"
We also see that Paul has to constantly defend himself. Obviously there would people who were teaching counter to Paul and would be going around telling people that what Paul is teaching is falsehood.
20
I assure you before God that what I am writing you is no lie.
**********
We can also observe the term "MY GOSPEL" from the lips of Paul.
This will take place on the day when God judges people's secrets through Jesus Christ, AS MY GOSPEL declares.
*******
So coming back, we see that there would be certain people / messengers going across who would give a different narrative/ Gospel to the same people that had been exposed to Paul earlier.
Galatians
3:1
O foolish Galatians, WHO hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
[You foolish Galatians! WHO has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified.]
**********
Paul would even mock some people in trying to showcase or portray his legitimacy and authenticity and truthfulness.
We see in 2 Corinthians 7:5 where Paul opines.
I do not think I am in the least inferior to those "super-apostles."
[See! "I do not think".
How it is his own opinion and his self projection. There could clearly be a counter narrative going around.]
So we know, as mentioned earlier as well, that the actual Jews, believing in the Messiah, including the actual disciples were the ones who continued to live their lives as per the Mosaic Law as prescribed by Jesus the Messiah. They were the ones who did not believe in the actual death of Jesus the Messiah but were going by what God had foretold again and again in the Old Testament that the Messiah would be saved by God and would not actually die. They were the ones who knew that the God of the Bible abhors human sacrifice and had saved His beloved Messiah and did NOT let death and humiliation of the crucifixion even touch him.
Unfortunately it was the Pauline abomination blended with pagan doctrines backed up by the powerful Roman Empire that eventually won out over the years and wiped out the Jewish Christianity of radical monotheism and against the abomination like Crucifixion. The Gentiles - pagans by roots - loved the idea of an innocent dying for their sins and transgressions so that they get a free pass to Heaven. It's like you enjoy your orgies BUT it's Jesus who gets AIDS. Or it's like you get AIDS because of your mess and Jesus gets the painful injections. SORRY FOR THE CRUDE EXAMPLE.
The pattern has continued over centuries and centuries. The religion built on the "death" of an innocent human being so that the transgressors get their free pass to Heaven.
Christianity = CRUELianity
And yeah yeah the slogan is love love love ❤️
**************
@Mikey Strikey
Jesus WARNED about Paul and his likes:
Matthew 5:17
Think NOT that I (Jesus) am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 5:18-19 “For verily I say unto you, TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS, one jot or one tittle shall in NO wise pass from the law, till ALL be fulfilled. WHOSOEVER therefore shall break one of these LEAST commandments, and SHALL TEACH men so, he shall be called the LEAST in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”
[[See! ....WHOSOEVER therefore shall break one of these LEAST commandments, and SHALL TEACH men so, he shall be called the LEAST .....]]
Does that ring a bell? Paul is the answer.
********
Obviously, heaven and earth have not yet passed. The fact that you are reading this bears witness to this very simple fact. So Jesus is telling us that so long as creation exists, the laws and the commandments will be required from his followers. Anyone who will dare to say otherwise, until the end of time, will be called “the least in the kingdom of heaven.” Jesus the messiah and messenger had FOREWARNED about mankind’s attempt to distort and annul the commandments (the commandments Moses brought), which he had taught his followers to keep and himself had kept faithfully (along with whatever stipulations that God had prescribed Jesus Christ as per his time and place) throughout his mission on earth, and was warning his followers in no uncertain terms to be wary of all those who would attempt to do so.
Even towards the end of his ministry, Jesus Christ even instructs his disciples and the people to do what the Jew teachers say.
Matthew 23:2-3
2 “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses’ seat;
3 so PRACTICE and OBSERVE WHATEVER they tell you, but not what they do; for they preach, but do not practice.
***************
And what do the Jews teachers, the scribes and the Pharisees tell you?
To KEEP the laws and the commandments.
Jesus tells us that “If a man love me, he WILL KEEP MY WORDS: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” John 14:23.
He taught to KEEP THE LAWS AND THE COMMANDMENTS TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS but Christians, who profess to be followers of the Christ, are doing the exact opposite of what Jesus the Christ himself said. Christians today are the followers of Paul. Christians are NOT the followers of Jesus Christ. Christians in fact ANTI-CHRIST. The believers in Crucifixion which is an abomination against Jesus Christ because he NEVER got Crucified or killed. A religion built on the idea of the "death" of an innocent so that the transgressors can get a free pass to Heaven. An ABOMINATION against the Most Merciful God Almighty who sent Jesus Christ.
********
Jesus WARNED in Matthew 7:15
Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in SHEEP'S clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
****************
Christianity = CRUELianity
Yet the slogan is love love love ❤️
What’s really happening here? It is all part of the deadly power struggle between Paul’s Herodian dynasty that collaborated with the Roman occupation, and the true Davidic royal dynasty of Jesus and his brothers. Paul - and the Romans - won...
Dorian... Many are Called but Few are chosen. Peace.
Mikey Strikey - He told some good parables, that J.C. - even a pagan Greek can see that. Peace be with you, brother.
@@dorianphilotheates3769 Amen, and His teaching of repentance resonates perfectly with every sincere follower of of His. Remember brother... "His sheep hear His voice" which is great in one sence but sad in another because many who 'think' they are saved will be denied when their time comes. (Matt 7:21) Sincerity is the key because only the sincere have the motive to put His teachings into practice and thus achieve purity. There is one on TH-cam called... "A voice in the desert" who is doing a great job of preching a Christ only doctrine. I love it. You might seek his work... its uplifting indeed.
For by Gace are you saved through Faith & not of works (of the Law) it is a gift of God not of works lest any man should boast.
@@strikemaster1 Jesus was sent to his own (Jews) under the Law. not to the gentiles who were not under the Law Acts 15:7-11.
You can't tell me there are no conflicts between church leaders today. But your explanations don't even sound like conflict. Paul was saying we don't have to follow Levitical laws but rather the commandments. Jesus said his commands were to love God and love others as ourself. But we are supposed to still follow the important commandments. Paul was killed because he loved Jesus.
How do you know Saul loved Jesus? Have you met him? If he preached other than the injil and hated Jewish circumcision, is it means, he loved Jesus? Jesus also had the circumcision.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, *If a man love me, he will keep my words:* and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
John 14:24 *He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings:* and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
_Paul does not keep Jesus' sayings._
_Paul proclaims (in 1 Timothy and 2 Timothy) I am “ordained/appointed” to be a preacher, an apostle, and a teacher._
*1 Timothy 2:7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.*
*2 Timothy 1:11 Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.*
_For those that are not well studied with Jesus' commandments, the error(s) in what Paul has proclaimed can be easily overlooked._
_Here are some of Jesus's commandments:_
*Matthew 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, Christ; and all ye are brethren.*
*Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.*
*Matthew 23:10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, Christ.*
(Matthew 23:8 & 10 Master,G2519) καθηγητής From a compound of G2596 and G2233; a guide, that is, (figuratively) a teacher: - master.
_In Matthew 23:8 Jesus makes it clear he is the one Teacher (for one is your [Teacher], Christ)_
_In Matthew 23:10 Jesus makes it clear to neither be called teachers (Neither be ye called [teachers])._
_Also in verse 10 Jesus repeats what he had just said in verse 8. (...for one is your [Teacher], Christ)_
_Paul fails to keep Jesus' commandment “neither be ye called [teachers]...” even (in the same verse and in conjunction) as he proclaims himself to be an apostle._
_In other words; Paul is breaking Jesus' commandment not to be called teacher(s) at the same time as declaring himself as an apostle._
*1 Timothy 2:7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.*
_Paul repeats this claim as an apostle and a teacher in 2 Timothy 1:11._
*2 Timothy 1:11 Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.*
_Once again Paul is breaking Jesus' commandment not to be called teacher(s) all while claiming himself to be an apostle._
_Furthermore in 2 Timothy Paul proclaims; _*_“ Whereunto I am appointed...”_*
*#1 Question:* _Who had appointed Paul “a teacher;” after Jesus had instructed not to be called such; in_ Matthew 23:10 *Neither be ye called [teachers]: for one is your [Teacher], Christ.*
_Paul claims likewise in 1 Timothy 2:7 _*_Whereunto I am ordained..._*
Moreover *#1 Question:* _Who (against Jesus' commandment of (Matt __23:10__) not to be called a teacher) “ordained” and or “appointed” Paul as “a teacher?”_
_None of Jesus' disciples would have had the authority to break any of Jesus' commandments, and to go and “ordained” or “appointed” Paul as “a teacher.”_
*_#2 Question:_*_ Or is it perhaps, we are to believe that Jesus broke his own commandment and came to Paul privately (came to him secretly as it were) and “ordained” and “appointed” Paul as “a teacher” against Jesus' own commandment?_
*_#3 Question_*_ Or worst, should we assume that God “ordained” and “appointed” Paul as “a teacher” against Jesus' commandment? However If this were true (being beforehand Jesus declared he is our one Teacher; for one is your Teacher, Christ) this would mean God “ordained” and “appointed” Paul in the position of an Antichrist (which means in the place of Christ or instead of Christ.)_
_The above questions are mere speculations which seemingly can not fit as explanations as to Paul's claims._
_The important fact to remember is; for in effort to conform with Paul's statements (found in 1 Timothy 2:7 and 2 Timothy 1:11) it is of a necessity to break Jesus' commandment; _*_Neither be ye called [teachers]: for one is your [Teacher], Christ._*
Mark 4:14 *The sower soweth the word.*
Mark 4:15 And *these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.*
_Jesus sown the first "great commandment" in the hearts. (Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with _*_all thy heart, and with all thy soul,_*_ and with all thy mind.)_
_In John 7:16 Jesus testified that his doctrine was not his own, but [God's doctrine]._
John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, *My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.*
John 7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
_When Jesus gave us the doctrine of the "great commandment" he indeed gives us God's doctrine._
_Notice the wording within the [first] great commandment; (... _*_love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul,_*_ …) and notice that this exact phrase has already been recorded and established as a doctrine within the old testament._
Matthew 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with *all thy heart, and with all thy soul,* and with all thy mind.
Matthew 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Matthew 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Matthew 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
_Example of what it means to love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul._
Deuteronomy 13:3 [...] for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye *love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.*
Deuteronomy 13:4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, *and keep his commandments,* and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
_Example of what it means to love God._
Deuteronomy 30:16 In that I command thee this day *to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments,* that thou mayest live [...].
_Deu 13:3-4 & Deu __30:16__ coveys the message that to "love the LORD your God {EVEN} with all your heart and with all your soul" means to "keep his commandments, and obey his voice" & "to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments."_
_Please remember what Jesus testifies in John 7:16-17_
John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, *My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.*
John 7:17 *If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.*
_Now please notice in Luke 10:25 a lawyer's question to Jesus is; "...What shall I do to inherit...?"_
Luke 10:25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, *what shall I do to inherit* eternal life?
_This question "...What shall I do to inherit...?" is very much like asking; ...What is required of me [to inherit] ...?_
_And this question had already been addressed by God's doctrine, within the old testament in Deu __10:12__-13._
Deuteronomy 10:12 And now, Israel, *what doth the LORD thy God require of thee,* but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and *to love him,* and *to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,*
Deuteronomy 10:13 *To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes,* which I command thee this day for thy good?
_Now again looking at Luke 10:25 the man's question is first addressed by Jesus in this manner; "... _*_What is written in the law?_*_ ..._
_We know that when Jesus says "What is written in the law" would be referring to something already recorded. As God's doctrine was already recorded in the old testament._
_The man replies; "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul..." which is indeed written in the old testament._
Luke 10:25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, *Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?*
Luke 10:26 He said unto him, *What is written in the law?* how readest thou?
Luke 10:27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
Luke 10:28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
_We can read nearly the same situation (question and answer) again in Mark 10:17-19._
Mark 10:17 And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, *what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?*
Mark 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
Mark 10:19 *Thou knowest the commandments,* Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.
_In Mark 10:17 a person asks Jesus, "...what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?_
_In Mark 10:19 Jesus states; "Thou knowest the commandments..." (Note that the commandments were known by the man because they are already written, in God's doctrine, in the old testament.)_
_In Mark 10:19 Then Jesus began to recite from the Ten Commandments. (Which are the words of the covenant. God's covenant / God's doctrine.)_
_According to Exodus 34:28 the words of the covenant [are] the ten commandments._
Exodus 34:28 And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables *the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.*
_The words of the covenant (the ten commandments) are still required accordingly to Jesus' teachings. Again read likewise in Matthew 19:16-19._
Matthew 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, *Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?*
Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, *keep the commandments.*
Matthew 19:18 He saith unto him, *Which?* Jesus said, *Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,*
Matthew 19:19 *Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.*
_In Matthew 19:16 a man asks, “Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?” Matthew 19:17 Jesus replies, “... keep the commandments.” Matthew 19:18 the man then asks, “Which?” [meaning “which” commandments]. Matthew 19:18-19 Jesus' replies by reciting from the words of the covenant, the ten commandments._
_According to Deuteronomy 4:13 the words of the covenant [are] the ten commandments._
Deuteronomy 4:13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.
_According to Jeremiah 31:31 & 33 the words of the covenant are written in people's inward parts [in his people' hearts]._
Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jeremiah 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jeremiah 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
_Notice in_ Jeremiah 31:33 *But this shall be the covenant* [...] that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, *I will put my law* [the words of the covenant, the ten commandments Exodus 34:28 & Jeremiah 31:32] *in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.*
John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, *My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.*
John 7:17 *If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.*
_(The conclusion of the whole matter)_
Ecclesiastes 12:12 ... be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.
Ecclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear *the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.*
Ecclesiastes 12:14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
_(A warning about false prophets who lead away from God's commandments.)_
Deuteronomy 13:1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
Deuteronomy 13:2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
Deuteronomy 13:3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your *God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.*
Deuteronomy 13:4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
Deuteronomy 13:5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.
In Matthew, Mark, Luke and John Jesus said go Not unto the gentiles but for to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Paul teaches the gospel of the grace of God(body of Christ) 12 apostles teach the gospel of the kingdom(Israel) 2 Tim 2:15 rightly divide the word of truth. Jesus sent 12 apostles for Israel, Jesus sent Paul to the gentiles to form the body of Christ under dispensation of grace.
Acts 15:7, Peter said to them, Elohim chose Among Us that through my mouth the Gentiles would hear the good news.
Fake-Shaul, Galatians 1: 15 through 20 Galatians 2:1-14
Ah yes; Paul, the Shyster of Tarsus, King Herod’s own first cousin
You blaspheme God, His word, and His Son.
johnspartan98 - Oh, well...whatta you gonna do? BTW, are you really a Spartan? If so, we may be related: the Spartans originated in my neck o’ the woods - Doris, in Central Greece.
@@dorianphilotheates3769 Spartans exemplify perfection in battle due to their wisdom that comes from rigorous training.
Likewise, I know the whole Bible. Not just bits and pieces, therefore I cut to pieces all false doctrines with the Sword of the Spirit which is the word of God and faith as my shield.
johnspartan98 - Nice.
I have done some Googling for the Herodian family tree. I think perhaps Paul was his Grandson. Do you have any reverences for him being a first cousin?
Paul is mentioned in Revelation by John (to the Church that John took over from Paul, Ephesus). " I know that you cannot tolerate wicked men, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false." Rev 2:2
Have you hear of the NASB bible? It is as close to a direct word for word translation of the original text as humanly possible. It uses the collective knowledge of ancient aramaic to give the closest translation we can get. Pick one up and reread some of what you are talking about.
We have the written endorsement of Paul by Peter - with a warning that Paul's writings are "difficult to understand" and "many people twist what he wrote". So, we should stay within these guidelines and not go against what Peter is saying. As well, we must be careful not to reject Paul, if in fact he was chosen by Yeshua, as the NT explains - Paul was chosen by Yeshua directly. So, are we in a position to carelessly ignore this fact - or even deny it - when the evidence does suggest it is absolutely true. Also, Paul proved himself as the real deal by the way he carried out his ministry and ultimately giving up his own life for the cause. There are many extremely important things revealed in Paul's writings, including shedding some light on the End Times. We need to properly interpret Paul - rather than try to paint a picture that he "was not one of the 12" (which is true) but once again, if Yeshua personally hand-picked Paul - as it is written - and there is significant evidence to suggest the story to be true - then it is better to deal with Paul's writings the way Peter told us - rather than inventing a case against Paul, that he should be totally rejected and ignored. Your approach is actually contrary to Scripture. You are going against both Yeshua and Peter by your position. We need to stay within the framework of the Holy Bible. You are in opposition to what we have in the Bible, therefore you are to be rebuked and corrected, and you need to repent of your way of thinking.
Paul was similar to Abdullah bin Saba’ in islamic tradition but was not successful as Paul.
My brother, Rev. 2:2 might be a reference to Paul, besides many today who call themselves apostle.
Paul was a bogus. He was always defending himself even if no one was against him. His writing always have defense mechanism.
Peter backed Paul Acts 15:7-11 2 Peter 3:15,16
@@paulrock4816 coz the scriptures were fabricated in favor of saul of tarsus. But acts and epistles of james evidently speak of a so-called apostle that had disagreements with the disciples, the self-proclaimed apostle saul.
@Reflect Upon The Word you know, i always used to accuse others that when i was a pastor. But now, after exploring 16 different religions with sincere intentions of finding the reality of the claims of religion and god, i realized i have been very judgmental before to others who dont believe the so-called word of god. Well, that's what you are right now, so i understand you.
Btw, what if i say i believe the scriptures and god and jesus AGAIN now, but if i say i do according to Catholic faith, would that be alright with you? 🤔
Hmmmm, i dont think so. You will still say the same. Because for you, unless that only the evangelical faith is the truth.
Btw, the bible you now cling to which you bought from an evangelical bookstore, was originally written by catholic monks before the reformation took place.
And btw, aside from being a pastor, i also was a catholic seminarian in my teens.
Jesus said Peter would be the head of the church, the rock that was the foundation of the church, not Paul, Matthew 16: 18.
Roman Catholicism theology Jesus christ is the rock and foundation
@@sonofgod9166 Of course Peter is the rock, otherwise it wouldn't make sense that Jesus changed his name from Simon into Peter which means rock.
1-Well, Mr. Tim, since you admit that Peter is the rock of the church, and Peter and James were following the Mosaic law, and that Paul claimed that he saw Jesus and that he fought the disciples of Christ, do not forget that he was torturing the followers of Christ, but it did not work out with him, so he entered
From the ideological side, to spoil them
2- Do these things not make the credibility of Islam strong? In that the Messiah Jesus, peace be upon him, was a follower of the Torah, he and his disciples who believed with him
@@user-nh8ev5te5x No, it doesn't since they held a council (the very first one) in which they discussed the necessity of circumcision for Gentiles and indirectly for Jews of the following generation too. It wasn't the last council since we still have the Catholic Church founded by Christ Himself which continued to follow this kind of manner to solve theological issues. It would sound kind of awkward if a Church would one have one council and that one was at the very beginning of her history.
@@user-nh8ev5te5x Jesus is not the Messiah. The Jewish high priest said to Jesus, if you are the Messiah just tell us plainly. And Jesus said I already told you who I was. Before Abraham was I am. Jesus said he appeared to Abraham. When they ask Jesus if he was God he said all of you are God's. In The Apocalypse of St John when Jesus talks about his father, he says he is more than God. It all depends on how you interpret the word Messiah or the word god. Jesus was begotten so that God the spirit father could be seen.
12 disciples whose names varies
1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Fake-Shaul created his own "Good-news," Torah, and he even said so.
FAKE-Shaul NEVER said, "YHWH told me to say,,," or "YHWH sent me,,," I.E:
Rom 2:16 in the day when Elohim shall judge..., ACCORDING TO MY GOOD NEWS.
@@allentobolewski7273 That God is going to judge you According to what Paul wrote because Paul said he's going to judge you according to my gospel that if you deny that Jesus want to Paul you are denying the gospel of how you are saved and that means you are not save because Jesus want to Paul for gentiles in act chapter 26 because we Jesus come he only come for the jews matthew 15 24 they are a wrong way to follow Jesus and they are right way to follow him that is by the grace of God and Paul teachings the grace of God because the gentiles never had the law of Moses romans 2 14 throw 16 so I don't know what you are taking about the bible says in 2 timothy 2 15 to study and divide the word of truth so may the grace of our lord Jesus Christ be with you and get God true words and read it and study the bible.
nice presentation i already threw out most of the books of the new testament and am left only with the 3 gospels of Mark, Luke and Matthew and the Tanakh and believe Jesus meant to live according the covenant and his teachings.
Are you aware that Luke was a close friend of Paul and not an eye-witness to Jesus testimony? Matthew and John are the only ones that wrote their testimony down of their time with Jesus.
@@suzettee5202 none of the gospels we have are written down by the disciples themselves because they were written in greek and even the main 4 gospels tell a different story so which story is the correct one. i believe the teachings are meant to follow the Jewish laws and to me Jesus is not certainly not God himself and the Son of God maybe but then he still failed miserably by the lying, deceiving, murder, genocide of the Christian churches and the fact that every 10 seconds an innocent child dies of hunger or decease.
@@joeyandrews1400 So you can't accept that maybe God can protect His words and testimony and His disciples write it down regardless of the language they used and God was incapable of translating His words through a servant of His? He does not cause lying, deceiving, murder or genocide or even the innocent child that dies of hunger or disease. Satan is the god of this world and he is delighted when humans blame God for his evil doing.
Suzette E well said
@Joey Andrews
Peace be upon you. I am a Muslim. Jesus certainly isn't God. Jesus was the Messiah, a messenger, a Prophet sent by God. The teachings of Jesus got corrupted when they reached the Gentile circles. Gentiles who were NEVER the intended recipients of Jesus Christ or his message that he brought from God. Even in their corrupted state, God still left the previous scriptures with an inbuilt system for course correction or destruction depending upon what someone chooses.
Jesus Christ said and foretold COMMANDED by THE FATHER:
BY THE FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM.
Radical Monotheism exactly like the Jewish Prophets / Jews to believe in a uniquely ONE GOD - without any partners or equals or like a three in one coffee the abomination of the Trinity - plus believing in the Messiah Jesus the Prophet sent by God, and the essential consistency with his doctrine - the Muslim.
The very words that the Father - THE ONLY TRUE GOD - COMMANDED Jesus Christ to say. The doctrine of THE ONLY TRUE GOD that HE COMMANDED Jesus Christ to give.
The testimony of Jesus Christ on the Father:
- The Only True God (John 17:3)
- The Only One Who Knows The Hour (Mark 13:32)
- Greater than I (John 14:28)
- Greater than all (John 10:29)
- My God and Your God (John 20:17)
The doctrine of Jesus Christ =
The doctrine of a Muslim.
(Of course the term Father in the Jewish context. A figure of speech for their times. NOT that God has a literal Son. God has got Son by the Ton in the Bible.)
Defenders of the true honor and status of Jesus Christ
VERSUS
Christianity more like the Greek and Roman doctrines and the pagan doctrines like "God" coming down in human form and human / blood sacrifice that pagans had going hand in hand with Paul's doctrines of easy fake salvation with blood of an innocent, making the Merciful God in to a blood thirsty vampire. The same people making Jesus Christ UNRIGHTEOUS by their position (believing in the fiction called Crucifixion) and making the Father a treacherous back-stabber by their position and doctrine. Christianity actually the followers of Paul.
2000 years ago, the Roman and Greek Empire with its culture and mythological and pagan roots already held the beliefs such as "God coming down in human form". So after witnessing just a single "miracle" from Paul the deceiver they were conforming to their already held beliefs. No wonder when they heard of this guy Jesus with all the stories of his miracles, it was very easy for them to take him as "Son of God" (and this concept later on developed in to taking him as God) as this already went hand in hand with their pagan and mythological belief system. Little wonder that those times and those places and people also had "Triads" and ancient "Trinities" and "God" in threes and stuff.
Acts 14:11
When the crowd saw what Paul had done, they shouted in the Lycaonian language, "THE GODS HAVE COME DOWN to us IN HUMAN FORM!"
********
NOT TO FORGET:
Christians EMBRACE what Jesus Christ himself exposed and refuted as a LIE FROM THE DEVIL and those of the devil - the claim that he claimed to be God.
Then of course the abomination of the alleged blood "sacrifice" of Jesus Christ making the Most Merciful in to some blood thirsty vampire. Going against the very teachings of the true Prophets and that includes Jesus Christ.
********
Unfortunately, it was the Pauline Christianity and Pauline doctrines, blended with pagan doctrine and backed up by the powerful Roman Empire that eventually won out over the years and wiped out the Jewish Christianity of radical monotheism. Rome didn't convert to "Christianity", "Christianity" converted to Rome.
Thank you so much. There was always something about Paul I did not like. Paul this, Paul that... Never God this, God that or Jesus this, Jesus that... If the church likes Paul , loves Paul that much, something is wrong. Jesus said, if they hated me, they will hate you. Jesus is so right. I have learned... Amen, God bless you Brother.thank you.
@Lance Walden
Peace be upon you. Ponder and reflect. Feel free to comment back, challenge passionately, argue vehemently but do it with sincerity towards seeking the truth.
Jesus Christ said and foretold COMMANDED by THE FATHER:
BY THE FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM.
Radical Monotheism exactly like the Jewish Prophets / Jews to believe in a uniquely ONE GOD - without any partners or equals or like a three in one coffee the abomination of the Trinity - plus believing in the Messiah Jesus the Prophet sent by God, and the essential consistency with his doctrine - the Muslim.
The very words that the Father - THE ONLY TRUE GOD - COMMANDED Jesus Christ to say. The doctrine of THE ONLY TRUE GOD that HE COMMANDED Jesus Christ to give.
The testimony of Jesus Christ on the Father:
- The Only True God (John 17:3)
- The Only One Who Knows The Hour (Mark 13:32)
- Greater than I (John 14:28)
- Greater than all (John 10:29)
- My God and Your God (John 20:17)
The doctrine of Jesus Christ =
The doctrine of a Muslim.
(Of course the term Father in the Jewish context. A figure of speech for their times. NOT that God has a literal Son. God has got Son by the Ton in the Bible.)
Defenders of the true honor and status of Jesus Christ
VERSUS
Christianity more like the Greek and Roman doctrines and the pagan doctrines like "God" coming down in human form and human / blood sacrifice that pagans had going hand in hand with Paul's doctrines of easy fake salvation with blood of an innocent, making the Merciful God in to a blood thirsty vampire. The same people making Jesus Christ UNRIGHTEOUS by their position (believing in the fiction called Crucifixion) and making the Father a treacherous back-stabber by their position and doctrine. Christianity actually the followers of Paul.
2000 years ago, the Roman and Greek Empire with its culture and mythological and pagan roots already held the beliefs such as "God coming down in human form". So after witnessing just a single "miracle" from Paul the deceiver they were conforming to their already held beliefs. No wonder when they heard of this guy Jesus with all the stories of his miracles, it was very easy for them to take him as "Son of God" (and this concept later on developed in to taking him as God) as this already went hand in hand with their pagan and mythological belief system. Little wonder that those times and those places and people also had "Triads" and ancient "Trinities" and "God" in threes and stuff.
Acts 14:11
When the crowd saw what Paul had done, they shouted in the Lycaonian language, "THE GODS HAVE COME DOWN to us IN HUMAN FORM!"
********
Then of course the abomination of the alleged blood "sacrifice" of Jesus Christ making the Most Merciful in to some blood thirsty vampire. Going against the very teachings of the true Prophets and that includes Jesus Christ.
********
Unfortunately, it was the Pauline Christianity and Pauline doctrines, blended with pagan doctrine and backed up by the powerful Roman Empire that eventually won out over the years and wiped out the Jewish Christianity of radical monotheism. Rome didn't convert to "Christianity", "Christianity" converted to Rome.
@Lance Walden
Jesus WARNED about Paul and his likes:
Matthew 5:17
Think NOT that I (Jesus) am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 5:18-19 “For verily I say unto you, TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS, one jot or one tittle shall in NO wise pass from the law, till ALL be fulfilled. WHOSOEVER therefore shall break one of these LEAST commandments, and SHALL TEACH men so, he shall be called the LEAST in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”
[[See! ....WHOSOEVER therefore shall break one of these LEAST commandments, and SHALL TEACH men so, he shall be called the LEAST .....]]
Does that ring a bell? Paul is the answer.
********
Obviously, heaven and earth have not yet passed. The fact that you are reading this bears witness to this very simple fact. So Jesus is telling us that so long as creation exists, the laws and the commandments will be required from his followers. Anyone who will dare to say otherwise, until the end of time, will be called “the least in the kingdom of heaven.” Jesus the messiah and messenger had FOREWARNED about mankind’s attempt to distort and annul the commandments (the commandments Moses brought), which he had taught his followers to keep and himself had kept faithfully (along with whatever stipulations that God had prescribed Jesus Christ as per his time and place) throughout his mission on earth, and was warning his followers in no uncertain terms to be wary of all those who would attempt to do so.
Even towards the end of his ministry, Jesus Christ even instructs his disciples and the people to do what the Jew teachers say.
Matthew 23:2-3
2 “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses’ seat;
3 so PRACTICE and OBSERVE WHATEVER they tell you, but not what they do; for they preach, but do not practice.
***************
And what do the Jews teachers, the scribes and the Pharisees tell you?
To KEEP the laws and the commandments.
Jesus tells us that “If a man love me, he WILL KEEP MY WORDS: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” John 14:23.
He taught to KEEP THE LAWS AND THE COMMANDMENTS TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS but Christians, who profess to be followers of the Christ, are doing the exact opposite of what Jesus the Christ himself said. Christians today are the followers of Paul. Christians are NOT the followers of Jesus Christ. Christians in fact AGAINST Jesus Christ as per fundamental doctrines. The believers in Crucifixion which is an abomination against Jesus Christ because he NEVER got Crucified or killed.
********
Jesus WARNED in Matthew 7:15
Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in SHEEP'S clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
*********
The fruits you have already seen.
@Lance Walden
Isaiah 1:18
"Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD..."
So let us reason. :-)
And how can anyone reason without using evidence and intellect?
Otherwise the call for reason makes no sense. After all, God Almighty gave us a mind and the ability to think for a purpose.
The Bible says:
Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
1 Thessalonians 5:21
******
Jesus Christ himself said:
"And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord OUR God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the
first commandment.” Mark 12:29-30.
So, contrary to the teachings of most members of the clergy, Jesus (peace be upon him) did not want his followers to believe everything they were told on “blind faith,” but he wanted his followers to believe “with all thy mind.” He wanted us to THINK in order to protect his words from corruption. Let us comply with the teaching of God's elect messenger, Jesus Christ (pbuh), and see where the truth and our minds will lead us.
*******
NOTE: The LORD in Isaiah is NOT for Jesus. :-)
@Lance Walden
It's a very serious warning on lack of knowledge and on rejecting knowledge. You must heed this warning. The consequence of not heeding is severe.
Hosea 4:6
My people are destroyed for LACK OF KNOWLEDGE: because thou hast REJECTED KNOWLEDGE, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
@Lance Walden
The scriptures call for reason. Will you not reason?🤔
Isaiah 1:18
"Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD..."
So let us reason. :-)
And how can anyone reason without using evidence and intellect?
Otherwise the call for reason makes no sense. After all, God Almighty gave us a mind and the ability to think for a purpose.
In the end Peter or Paul does not matter. The author of Tanakh, Gospels, and Letters is the Holy Spirit. All Scriptures point to Jesus Christ. It matters that the whole world has seen the salvation of God, prophesied by Isaiah. This salvation is what Christ accomplished on the cross.. Jesus has revealed the Father to the Jews and Gentiles and we are one through faith in Jesus Christ.
Bible Paul apostleship questioned
I Cor 9:1
Am I not free? Am I NOT an apostle? Have I NOT seen Jesus our Lord?
Acts 6:2
And the TWELVE summoned the full number of disciples and said, (church was going and Paul was not in the picture)
Acts 9:4,7,8
He heard a voice saying to him 7. Hearing a voice but NOT seeing anyone. 8. His eyes were opened, he saw nothing!
(Luke records what Paul told him; 2nd hand info)
(NO, all three testimonies by Paul says he ONLY heard a voice)
I Cor 9:2
***If to others I am NOT an apostle,*** at LEAST I am to you, for YOU ARE THE SEAL OF MY APOSTLESHIP in the lord.
(This does NOT qualify him as one by people’s opinions; Jesus sets the qualifications. * He knows that he does not meet the requirements)
I Cor 15:1,2
Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel “I” preached to you, (key) which you received on which you stand. 2. And by which you are being saved, IF you hold fast to the word “I” preached to you.
(Paul’s reasoning and lies to them)
I Cor 15:8
Last of all, as to one untimely born, he appeared also to me. 9. For I am the least of the apostles, unworthy to be called an apostle, because (he did not walk with Yeshua or see him die and be raised) I persecuted the church of God. (True but misleading statement in context)
Acts 18:6
And when they opposed and reviled Paul, he shook out his garments; and said to them, “Your blood be on your own heads; (Jews) I am innocent, FROM NOW ON I will go to the Gentiles. (in Corinth at the time and Jews knew the Torah and Paul preached against it,.
Rms 11:13,14
Now I am speaking to you Gentiles in as much then as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry 14. He wants to make Jews envious, so he uses manipulation)
(One twisted truth after the other.)
I Jhn 2:19
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us they would have continued with us.
II Cor 12:12
The signs of a TRUE apostle were performed among you with utmost patience, with SIGNS and WONDERS and MIGHTY WORKS.
(Not even close to Christ qualifications set) see video.
Didn’t even have to watch the video , all these comments are sickening , Apostle Paul was an apostle and he was given a revelation by Jesus himself . You guys are deceived. Read your bibles and stop falling for what Men say . Follow what God fays
John 12:44 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me.
John 12:45 And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me.
John 12:46 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.
John 12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
John 12:48 *He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.*
_Paul does not follow Jesus' instructions. Look at Jesus' instructions:
_
Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
_Jesus said, one is your Father which is in heaven._
_Jesus is talking about God the Father._
_Jesus is talking about a spiritual Father in heaven._
_Follower's of Jesus do not go about calling God their physical and biological father._
_However Follower's of Jesus do call God their spiritual Father._
_Jesus' instructed that it is wrong to call any man on earth your [spiritual] Father as instructed by Jesus._
_However (against Jesus' instructions) Paul makes claim to be your [spiritual] father through [his] gospel._
1 Corinthians 4:15 For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel._
In 1 Cor 4:15 Paul is not claiming to be your physical and biological father through the gospel, here in 1Cor 4:15. For if Paul were to claim to be your biological father, it would be an obvious lie (Paul had no children.)
_However what Paul is claiming is to be your [spiritual] father through [his] gospel._
_Do you also claim that Paul is your father through his gospel?_
_If you do not call Paul your father through the gospel, it appears you acknowledge Paul does not follow Jesus' instruction concerning this._ 👍
Thank you these blind people are still under the law. Jesus's death was not enough for them they had to add to it. Good Luck under the Law, Jesus said I AM the way the truth & the life, no one comes to the Father but by me, not the Law of Moses. Paul was a chosen vessel of Jesus Acts 9:15
Paul Rock amen brother
@@KeepingWatch95 When I read the 4 gospels written to Jews. 1st gentile was Acts 10. Jesus said over & over again. I have come for the lost sheep of Israel. Even gifted the 12 Apostle with power commanding them not to go to the gentiles. Even told a gentile woman it's not right I take food from the table of the children & cast it to dogs. Jesus had no intention of going to the gentiles. The 12 Apostle had no intention of going to the gentiles except once with Cornelius. Peter uses in Acts 15:7-11 to defend Paul also in 2 Peter 3:15,16. Jesus could have used the 12 Apostle to preach to the world, but he already rewarded the 12 to sit over the 12 tribes judging them in the regeneration. Apostle Paul weather you like it or not gentiles were given over to the Apostle Paul. I read as Peter was to the circumcision Paul is to the uncircumcision. I think after the stoning of Stephen you can see the gospel switching to the gentiles over the Jews. Jews rejected Christ over & over again. Acts 9:15 This man Paul is a chosen vessel unto me to take my name to the gentiles. Not with the Law but with the gospel of grace Jesus fulfilled the Law, nailing those handwritten ordinances to the cross, if the Law could save you we would not need another. Law can not save only Jesus & his shed blood can save a sinner. As Peter said why to put a yoke on the neck of these disciples which we or our Fathers were not able to bear. Acts 15: 10,11
@@paulrock4816 _Jesus would have of course, known about Paul even before Paul came._
_And indeed Jesus did foretell to his disciples of what (or who) was going to come during this time:_
John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
John 14:29 *And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.*
John 14:30 *Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.*
_The person of Jesus' prophecy in John __14:30__ had to come in a relatively short span of time. Which is after Jesus' crucifixion (verse John __14:28__) and before all his disciples had passed away (John __14:30__)._
_Jesus' prophecy did come true during the very exact time Jesus foretold it would. (Which is during the remaining span of the disciples lives and while Jesus was not talking much with them.)_
_But why didn't Jesus tell his disciples after this came to pass? Because (John __14:29__) he told them it before it came to pass, that, _*_when it is come to pass, ye might believe._*
Please note the following:
_Matthew, Mark, Luke and John (the 4 Gospels) are record of events which occurred while Jesus was talking much with his disciples._
_Paul epistles (13 letters) are record of events which came during the time Jesus was not talking much with his disciples. (During the very exact time Jesus foretold it would. Which is after Jesus' crucifixion and during the remaining span of the disciples lives and while Jesus was not talking much with them.)_
_Paul came teaching after Jesus' crucifixion and during the remaining span of the disciples lives while Jesus was not talking much with them. ( John __14:28__-30)_
_What Paul teaches in Galatians:_
Galatians 2:7 *But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;*
Galatians 2:8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)
_(In Galatians 2:7 Paul makes it clear that he (Paul) claims a gospel that is “contrariwise” to the gospel he claims was committed unto Peter.)_
Furthermore in Galatians 5:2
Galatians 5:2 *Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.*
_(In Galatians 5:2 Paul makes it clear that he (Paul) says “that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.”_
_According to Paul; Peter was given [by God] an apostleship (Gal 2:8) or gospel (Gal 2:7) of circumcision. Paul then claims (Gal 5:2) “that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.”_
_Paul is claiming that Peter was given (followed and taught) a gospel in which “Christ shall profit you nothing.” (That is; an unprofitable gospel in Christ.) An unprofitable gospel is just another way of saying a false gospel._
_And if Peter followed an unprofitable gospel it would also be true of all of Jesus' disciples._
_I doubt Jesus would agree that Peter (and all his disciples) were given and committed (by God) to a gospel in which Christ shall profit [them] nothing._
_This "contrariwise" teaching only comes from Paul, who indeed came while Jesus was not talking much with his disciples. (John __14:28__-30)._
*_If anyone disagrees perhaps they can show a quote from Jesus saying that God committed Peter to a gospel that was unprofitable in Christ._*
_Moreover:_
_Paul came teaching after Jesus' crucifixion and during the remaining span of the disciples lives while Jesus was not talking much with them. ( John __14:28__-30)_
Galatians 2:7 *But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;*
Galatians 2:8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)
_(In Galatians 2:7 Paul makes it clear that he (Paul) claims a gospel that is “contrariwise” to the gospel he claims was committed unto Peter.)_
_Further more Paul makes the following claim in Romans __11:13_
Romans 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as *I am the apostle of the Gentiles,* I magnify mine office:
_(In Romans __11:13__ Paul makes a clear claim to be “the apostle of the Gentiles”.)_
_(However before Paul came, and during the time (John __14:28__-30) that Jesus was talking much with his disciples; Jesus had already given instructions to his disciples to preach unto the Gentiles (teach all nations) and (into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.)_
Matthew 28:16 Then *the eleven disciples* went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.
Matthew 28:17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.
Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Matthew 28:19 *Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,* baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Matthew 28:20 *Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world.* Amen.
_(In Matthew __28:16__ is concerning the remaining 11 disciples.)_
_(In Matthew __28:19__ “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,” all nations would of course include the Gentiles nations. Because Israel was the only nation that was not Gentile.)_
_More in the gospel of Mark:_
Mark 16:14 Afterward *he appeared unto the eleven* as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.
Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, *Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.*
Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
_(Mark __16:15__ “Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.” Does include all the Gentile people.)_
_And notice again in Matt __28:19__-20 Jesus gave them instructions to “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations” … “ Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world..” (It appears Jesus says he would be with them as they did so, even unto the end of the world.)_
Matthew 28:19 *Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,* baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Matthew 28:20 *Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world.* Amen.
_The teaching that Peter was to preach to a different group of people is directly against, and is “contrariwise” to what Jesus told his disciple while he was with them and talking much with them. This “contrariwise” teaching (Galatians 2:7) came by Paul during the exact time that Jesus foretold about. Which is after the crucifixion and during the remaining time the disciples were alive, and while Jesus was not talking much with them. (John __14:28__-30)._
If Keeping the law could save you CHRIST DIED FOR NOTHING!!!!!!! Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law. Romans 3:31 Trusting in Christs finished work on the cross saves you. Not your human effort at keeping the law. What does this faith in Christ produce? LOVE! For who? GOD! "Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them." John 14:21, 12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. 14 You are my friends if you do what I command John 15:12-14. If you believe you are going to save yourself by keeping the law you must repent and trust in Christ. For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it James 2:10. NONE of us are without sin. We are justified freely by his grace so that NO MAN can boast!
Preach it with yiur great name--ARCHIBALD
You have understood this the way it is! sadly to say all the followers of the law of Moses think that trusting in his works will save them, I keep praying for them even if they hate me for saying this, have a great day.
I don't think anyone here thinks that the law will save them. Everyone knows it's grace that saves; however, that doesn't mean the law was done away. We follow the commandments because He told us too. We don't follow the commandments to be saved. Also, we know that works cannot save us. Again, only the grace of God saves. However, you better believe He knows our works. Read what He said to the Assemblies in Revelation if you don't believe me.
@@kfitz4520 You would be surprised, a lot of followers affirm that if you love Jesus you have to be circumcised[ this is a real example of a free interpretation of what many say it is how God wants us to love Him,
When it comes to interpret the words of Christ ´´ I f you love me keep my commandments´´ we have to be really careful, if we try to interpret that literally we will end becoming jews [ as far as trying to keep the law and itsl celebrations]
bottom line we would be combining the law of Moses, all its celebrations and the ´´ faith of Christ ´´ affirming now we are real believers.
I have seen that many think that way, I know of preachers, ´´ christians preachers ´´ that tell their followers to circumcise themselves to be ´´fully saved´´
What is your view about this?
Christ died for the sins of those jews who didn't follow the law in those times. It's not a permament cleansing for everyone and the future sins. Lol
There are many who believe that Pauls writings were changed added to or things taken from it. Or that he’s letters and story was added to the Bible for confusion even adding the mention in peters letter. I don’t think he was an apostle. Not sure how to explain more. He changed his story so many times and added to our doctrine that women are to be silent and not teach men. When he himself supported a woman who did just that.
Pharisee Sha'ul was not an Apostle named by nor recognized by Ravi Mashiach Yeshua (Yes, he knew all about Sha'ul) nor his twelve Apostles (which represents the twelve tribes of Y' israel. Sha'ul was not one of them. He had his place, but not as an Apostle. Now remember Yehuda (Judas) was TOLD BY Ravi Mashiach Yeshua to 'GO DO what you've planned'....he did AS he was instructed. It was all in the crucifixion plan. He later repented and could not forgive himself and hung himself. There is no need to blame it ALL on him. It was in the plan of Adonai or his Son would have never been crucified.
Acts 21:24: Paul agrees to the vow but he was never allowed to carry it through to the end. It is reasonable to assume God intervened to prevent Paul from looking like a hypocrite. Paul was a people pleaser in the beginning.....he would later learn it is better to please God than men.
The 12 preached to Jews. They erred in treating Gentiles the same as Jews. They should have treated Jewish believers the same as Gentiles once they became aware of Paul's Gospel....but they didn't. They kept pushing their Jewish laws and customs on to the Gentiles. Paul's Gospel makes no distinction. Jews are required to become like Gentiles in order to be saved....which is why very few Jews have become saved since before 70 A.D.. They are generally too proud to become like Gentiles in order to be saved. God cut them off because of their own rejection of Him, His Messiah, and His Gospel of the Kingdom. Romans 11:11.
Interesting- Eisemann speculates that James had power as the opposition priest, which follows why Paul bit his tongue when wanting to get in James' face "thou shall not speak against the Priest"
@@duffgordon9005 James had Jewish pride. That's why the struggle recorded in Acts. When James asked Paul to accept the vow he was doing so under the guise of saving Paul from certain death. So the question comes to mind....why didn't the 12 face certain death? Why only Paul? Well, the answer is the 12 preached faith plus works of the Jewish law to Jews....and that means CIRCUMCISION, while Paul said circumcision of the flesh is meaningless. Paul said true circumcision is circumcision of the heart which is done by the spirit off God in the believer. James was literally preaching Jewish legalism so he had nothing to fear......but he should have defended Paul, not ask him to take a vow.
And who were all those people who James thought would Kill Paul? They were Jewish believers.....that's who. They all failed to accept that God was turning to the Gentiles because Israel had rejected the Gospel over and over again in the Book of Acts. Paul tried preaching the Kingdom to the Jews early on, but they rejected it so he said he would no longer go to the Jews and went only to the Gentiles. Any Jews that heard Paul preach were subsequent to his preaching to the Gentiles a Gospel he received sometime between Acts 13 and Acts 15.....and it's not the same Gospel as the 12 preached to Jews.
Paul is not the same as the 12 Apostles. They were called to preach the gospel that Jesus preached to all nations and to make disciples of every creature under heaven. In Acts 9 Paul is called to gentiles (and the northern tribes dwelling with them but not Jews) and their kings. Sometime later Paul is recommissioned and sent far away to the gentiles only. He is to preach only to people who were not under the law. Gal. 2 is proof that the Ministry develops along these lines. Paul preaches to gentiles Peter and the 12 to Jews, those under the Law. As for the vow, the Holy Spirit had told Paul not to speak to Jews. He was not qualified as his message would cause confusion. Read Isaiah 24. When no one keeps the Law the Earth will burn. When they remove the handwriting of ordinances the Holy Spirit says God will topple the earth. So any jew listening to Isaiah would reject Paul. In Acts 9 Paul was commissioned to go to the gentiles to preach and God might allow him to be captured but the promise was he would always be set free. But his life did not end this way. Acts 28 ends with him under house arrest because he breaks covenant and preaches to Jews after the holy Spirit warned him not to go. Tradition has it he was killed by Nero a gentile. Impossible if Acts 9 is to be believed. Think about it though. Jesus never preached the gospel that Paul preached. But Paul prays that whosoever preaches any other gospel other than the one he preached, let him be eternally damned. What does that say about Jesus'message in Matt. 23:1-3?
@@elisyah7779 In know that....and I am glad you do too.
That is totoally correct John! blessed those who have eyes and see and those who have ears and listen!
If Paul had been the same Paul as he was after 30 years as an apostle when obeyed James about the vow I am sure he hadnot consented in doing that, James and the elders were acting cleverly but years later Paul was the Paul that was supposed to be. have a great day
The true Apostles of Jesus Christ were not in agreement with Paul. In fact they were very upset with Pauls teaching and they rebuked him and he separated himself from them. Paul spoke against God's Torah and against the teaching of Christ and the teaching Jesus taught His Apostles.
Many ministers and people claiming to be of Christ have been deceived by these teaching mainly because it is in the Bible. Being in the Bible should not be enough to convince you if someone calls themselves something that God had chosen them too..
God allows us to choose and all you have to do is read Pauls LETTERS and pray and accept the truth. You will see clearly that he has his own teachings and he wants you to follow him and believe in his teachings which are contrary and contradictory to Jesus's teachings. Paul (like Satan) wants you to obey and serve him. He wants you to believe in him and his teachings. His teachings are deceiving because he uses some truth mixed with lies and that is how he will get you. His goal (as Satan's) is to get you to believe in him and that he is God. He does not want you to believe he is Satan, then you will not be deceive.
Jesus clearly told us, in the book of John chapters 15-17 to obey His disciples and His teachings. Just listen to Pauls letters and you will hear and see, he wants to be served. Do not allow him and his minister to continue to deceive you.
The churches kicked Paul out. You need to do the same.
Read those letters and ask who is Paul talking about and too. God's chosen Apostles who did not follow him and those teachings of his.
Do not add to Deuteronomy 4:2 What did Jesus say? Matthew 5:28 Matthew but I say to you, that everyone who looks on a woman to lust for her has committed adultery with her already in his heart. Luke 22:20 And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup, which is poured out for you, is the new covenant in My blood. Show me this in the old covenant.
Do you keep Deuteronomy 21:18-21, Deuteronomy 22:13-21, Exodus 31:15, Leviticus 20:13, Leviticus 24:16 and more. Deuteronomy 4:40. You do not keep the law. James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all. I suggest you read scripture.
The law does not continue today. Acts, chapter 15 and Ephesians 2:8-9. Do you believe in Jesus or the law? John 5:24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, the one who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
Jesus is the law. Jesus is God's word (God's law) became flesh. To follow Jesus is to follow God's word (God's law).
James the brother of Jesus was not one of the twelve
"Apostle" was not a unique word to the 12. The Romans used the same word for a commanding officer in naval battles. It means they had the top authority. Judas was included in that list in Matthew. When the church age began their function changed in a need to adjust to the new way of life in the Spirit. Judas was not there. And, Matthias was voted in before the baptism of the Holy Spirit took place. Peter while still not indwelled by the Holy Spirit and the others in their ignorance failed to realize that its God who assigns spiritual gifts. No one can vote to have a person be having a certain gift. We voted on Bob. Bob, you now be a pastor? How? God assigns the gifts. Its was a mistake that went on record and quite a few fail to see what was taking place when they drew straws. No one voted. The Lord picked Paul to replace Judas. Like it or not. Paul was both a Jew and was a Roman by citizenship. God chose Paul to oppose the horrible legalism that was manifested in the Jews at that time. Paul was fast at catching onto the new way of Life in Christ. He had to confront them because they still wanted to live as Jews did as under the Law.
i tried to validate Saul/Paul, which led me to 2 Peter, and i found the unbiased Greek not as kind to Paul as 2 Peter seems to convey. not wisdom but cleverness. not 'hard to understand' but 'nonsensical'. THEN i found out that 2 Peter wasn't even written by Peter - it's a forgery. i've read articles on jesuswordsonly.com for years, and as conservative as i am, i have to let Paul go. i hate cults. and so i hate weird stuff. but i've realized that Paulianity is the weird stuff.
at the end of the day, when i say 'Yahushua said ABC', and someone else argues against it saying 'but Paul said XYZ'... it's kind of unbelievable that any believer would want to argue against Yahushua by using someone else's writings.
if 2 Peter is out, then we're left with a conversion story - basically Paul's claim about himself. and tradition of Rome - the "canon" of scripture. but Yahushua and Paul conflict in so many ways... and i can't just trust Paul on what he says about himself.. and i won't trust the Roman Empire... so.. just trust Yahushua.. it may be against the mainstream but Yahushua did say the path is narrow!
@@someonesomewhere619 Get a job at CNN. They like folks that don't blink when giving fake news. Other than that. Your argument was dumb and uniformed.
Makes sense, they are called fishers of men so yeah sea terms used
@@antonifortis1084 It had nothing to do with fishing. The Roman apostles were sent out as warriors in battle on sea.
@@genez429 uhhhh ig
I believe deep in our hearts there is something that really tells us that Paul was really a messenger of Christ👀🥺
We wouldn’t need something deep in our hearts to tell us Paul was really a messenger of Christ if we would simply believe the Word of God.
Yes, he was Acts 9:15 A chosen vessel of Mine to bear my name before the gentiles.
He was a chosen vessel for the gentiles Acts 9:15; he received the right hand of fellowship of the 12 to go to the gentiles Gal 2:7-9. Given his gospel of grace Gal 1:11, Peter backed Paul Acts 15:7-11, & 2nd Peter 3:15,16. Make no mistake Paul is to the gentile what Peter was to the Jew. Gal 2:7.
@@paulrock4816
You people make things worse.
He Paul was what to the Gentiles ?
The disciples were told that non were to go unto the Gentiles nor the Samaritans but rather the house of the "lost sheep of Israel" !
To believe your tales is one thing but to sell it as truth to other's, especially when yall clearly need to investigate and understand the words of the Bible .
Jesus was not a Universal Prophet sent to the world,it is a figment of the imagination you've been indoctrinated with !
The other thing of note is is one looks at the Clementine Literature. The eating with Gentiles, could simply have meant eating flesh. This was considered inviting demons into one's life. Several early church fathers portray the Apostles as vegetarian.
Great point. In that case it vindicates Peter totally, and accuses Paul truthfully.
Yes, I agree.
Except the Apostles ate FISH and the passover lamb
@@HistoryandReviews According to third hand, Gentile, testimony (Luke); and even then not explicitly (no explicit mention of Jesus eating lamb, and Jesus was given bread and honey by the majority text and only took "it" and ate "it"). Luke was also trying to make Paul and the rest of the Apostles look like there was less of a disagreement, whereas Paul's own letters show how sharp the dispute was.
@@edenicchristian335 As usual youre wrong Luke 22:8 Jesus sent Peter and John, saying, "Go and make preparations for us to eat the Passover."
Passover included LAMB and FISH both meat.
And the gospel of Luke was not written by “Luke” it is an anonymous document like the other 3 documents its author is unknown so you cant claim its a “gentile author”
@@HistoryandReviews As usual, that's not explicit. Likely the meal that was being eaten was a Seder (feast of unleavened bread). The only explicit foods being eaten were bread and a dip. Jesus died ON the passover according to the other gospels.
Apostles twelve
Jhn 6:70
Yeshua answered them, Have I not chosen you TWELVE, and one of you is a devil?
John 15:27
And you also will bear witness because you have been with me from the beginning.
John 21:24
This is the disciple who is bearing witness about these things.
Mat 19:28
Yeshua said to them, Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on His glorious throne, YOU who have FOLLOWED Me will also sit on TWELVE thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Acts 1:21
So, ONE of the men who have ACCOMPAINED us during ALL the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us,
Acts 2:14
But Peter standing up with the eleven lifted up his voice and said.
Acts 1:23,24
And they appointed two Joseph called Barsabbas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias, 24. And they prayed and said, thou Lord, which knows the hearts of all men, show whether these two thou has chosen,
(Yeshua is very clear. Twelve Apostles. He had two back up men)
**There was no, room, for Paul from the start, he can NOT be an apostle**
Acts 6:2
And the TWELVE summoned the full number of disciples and said, (church was going and Paul was not in the picture)
Acts 8:1b
They were all scattered through the region of Judea and Samaria, EXCEPT the apostles. (Paul's persecution on the church; the true Apostles was not afraid of him)
Acts 10:39
Peter said, “we are witness of all that He did, etc.
Jude 17b
But you must remember, beloved, the predictions of the apostles OF our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jesus never said, “go and make apostles”.
Jh 1:1,2
We declare to you what was from the beginning, what we have heard, what we have seen with our eyes, what we have looked at and touched with our hands, concerning the word of life. 2 This life was revealed, we have seen it and TESTIFY to it, and declare to you the eternal life that was with the Father and was revealed to us.
Rev1 :1b,2
He made it known by sending to His servant John, who bore witness to the Word of God and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, even to all that he saw.
Mat 13:11
And Yeshua said, “ To you has been given the secret of the Kingdom of God,
Quit denouncing the apostles in the Bible, including Paul, Paul was not always understood, but that doesnt make him a false apostle
@Truth Hurts then you dont understand Paul's letters
@Truth Hurts at least, when we see JESUS CHRIST HAMASHIACH, HE won't ask if we understood the law, but if we accepted His bloods atonement
@Truth Hurts but we dont have to understand everything, but to know we are a sinner and to repent, then when we have the HOLY GHOST/ SPIRIT, HE TEACHES US AND LEADS US INTO ALL TRUTH
@Truth Hurts no, the salvation given is not contingent on understanding the law or the Torah, but salvation comes when we repent and accept JESUS CHRIST HAMASHIACH bloods atonement, then when we get baptized in JESUS CHRIST NAME and receive the HOLY GHOST/SPIRIT, He will teach us
@Truth Hurts yes to believing, but understanding is different
Paul was not a false prophet he was just too complicated for some to understand he taught that faith alone saves but he also taught that we establish the law through faith he never taught against circumcision but taught what is the point of being physically circumcised if you are not spiritually circumcised 🗡📖💯♥️🙏
Hey your the guy from #LibriVox!
If keeping the Law makes us perfect before God, why would we need the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross? In Matthew 26:26-28, it states, "And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take eat; this is my body. And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it: For this is my blood of the NEW TESTAMENT, which is shed for many for the remission of sins." Paul wrote in Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin." We keep all the moral precepts of the law, but the rituals, ceremonies, and feast days were a shadow of Christ. We fulfill the law through faith in Christ according to Colossians 2:10-17. By the way, Matthew was one of the 12 Apostles.
Were countless people whom Jesus healed and forgave their sins - healed and forgiven because of their works or faith and grace? It’s faith and grace. Once we are re-born in Christ we are to live in the Spirit and deny the flesh; which means following the 10 commandments. Rich man asked Jesus how do you have eternal life. Jesus said keep the commandments. If you love me - obey the commandments - Jesus. Jesus saved you through grace and faith - and if you love him for that then wouldn’t you try and follow the commandments? Paul says in Galatians chapter 5 if we go back to old self - sins of the flesh - then we are no longer going to inherit the kingdom of God. Just like Jesus said in his parables - “not everyone that calls me Lord, Lord, will inherit the Kingdom.” So there is literally no contradiction. The confusion is “saved through grace and faith” order of operations. Once the Father draws us to Christ - our previous sins are washed away by the Blood of our Messiah - if we accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior. Therefore, we are saved by the Grace of God (James and Gospel of John confirm Grace), and not our previous works we did leading up to the revelation of Christ in our lives. Afterwards, we are to live in the spirit, and follow the commandments.
It appears to me.you sre confusing the Law,,,with the Morality of the Law.Because we hold or one should hold the morality of the law near and dear.
good work
You forgot to mention, in 2nd Peter 3:15-15, that Peter put Paul's letters on the same level as "the other scriptures".
The Twelve Apostles were promised an inheritance different from Paul's. This arrangement is foreshadowed by the tribes of ancient Israel, Twelve of whom had an inheritance in the land. But the 13th, the Levites, had no land. Their inheritance was "the LORD". Yet they were always called "the Twelve Tribes."
Another foreshadowing, that of a "new covenant", is prophesied beginning at Jeremiah 31:31, and is quoted in Hebrews 8, the longest OT quote in the NT.
A covenant had to be established by blood. The blood of Christ had yet to be shed as he preached to Israel. But in John 16, on the night he was betrayed, he told his disciples something they couldn't bear at the time, but would understand later. This foreshadowed the coming of the Holy Spirit and the eight gospel messages recorded in Acts, followed by the Epistles to the Church by the various Apostles.
It's not hard to understand this transition, and the necessity of the rejection, death and resurrection of Christ in order to invoke it. But we have to first acknowledge him who told us it would come and rest upon his promise: "I go to prepare a place for you" and, "I will come again and receive you unto myself, that where I am, there ye may be also."
So the Church's inheritance, like our Levitical predecessors, is THE LORD.
And, the doctrine of the Church is found in the Epistles. The message we're to believe is repeated over and over in the book of Acts.
I hope this helps overcome the confusion that's out there, that no one may rob us of our joy in the hope of our inheritance as sons of God, born again into the household of faith: a faith the gates of hell cannot prevail against.
I pray more people had eyes to see and ears to hear. Paul was obviously a false self-proclaimed apostle. It sickens how he has infiltrated the gospel.
Wow it took this guy half hour to explain that Paul hated the apostles! I would have taken 30 seconds and said just read Galatians and see how much he hated the apostles. Simple.
1-Can you explain your position on Paul and his hostility to the disciples of Christ and why the students follow the Torah, which makes them Christian Jews, and if they are, then this destroys the Christian belief that God has three Persons
The Jews do not believe that
2- I really wonder that as it is found in the New Testament that Jesus, after his departure, put matters in the hands of his disciples, especially Peter. Then someone comes who was their enemy and was torturing Jesus’ followers, then he makes up a story and says (I saw Jesus) and he fights the disciples this time intellectually and ideologically. When you read his biography and his hostility For the disciples of Christ you learn that he is a liar and a deceiver
@@DirtExtractor 1- We Muslims believe that Jesus, peace be upon him, called people to follow the Torah and the Gospel, and he never deviated from that
2- The disciples, may God be pleased with them, are believing men who followed Jesus and believed in the messages of God that were given to His Noble Prophet
3- The Torah and the Gospel have changed from their original form, as they have been corrupted through the ages, but there are still some divine revelations in them, and God alone knows where they are.
4- More than half of the New Testament was the writings of Paul, and the Church based most of its doctrines on those texts
5- The greatest sin is polytheism, so fear God and try to think logically, because God created man and made him with logic and understanding, so how can God Almighty have three persons and at the same time they are one? The Jews do not believe in that. Is it not in your books that there was a teacher of the Torah who asked Jesus about the most important commandment, and Jesus replied to him with the Shema Israel? And that man understood it as it existed in the Torah before
6- God Almighty has abrogated the rulings of the Torah and the Gospel and gave us the Noble Qur’an that will be eternal until the Hour of Judgment
By God, on that day, nothing will benefit you except your religion and your good deeds. Neither your race, nor your country, nor your friends, nor your family will benefit you. Everyone will be held accountable for his deeds. Read and do not let anyone stop you or hide texts from you.
And I ask God to guide you and me until we meet our Lord while we are truly believers
@@user-nh8ev5te5x silly Muslim who invited you into this topic. Jesus Christ was a Jew and he was son of God! Get lost Muslim
2 Peter 3:15 has been proven (scholaryly) to have not been written by Peter. Peter was dead when it was written, so this was obviously someone trying to cover for Paul. We have no records of Peter in harmony with Paul. Anyone that prefaces himself by saying, "I am not lying", very possibly even very likely lying. No prophet ever had to say that
Read Matthew 10v5 you will see why
This understanding of Paul seems to be growing in recent years and I can see it is being moved from a backburner to the front of the stove. It will be interesting to see how it develops in time to come. The subject should not be considered anathema. If Paul's Apostleship or lack thereof cannot hold up under scrutiny, so be it. Many twist his words to their own destruction. The question is, which way are they twisting it? Blessings, all.