Why and How Paul Invented "Christian Theology"
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- On Nov. 11, 2014, leading New Testament scholar N.T. Wright, professor of New Testament and early Christianity at the University of St. Andrews in Scotland and a retired Anglican bishop, presented a lecture on "Why and How Paul Invented Christian Theology."
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful
Really love this quote, and how true it is
Probably why they didn’t want the common people to read their Bibles in the Medieval period. The Bible does not speak well of the wise or the rulers of this world.
A more accurate quote based on the scientific research would be: Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise people as false, by the wisest people as true, and by the rulers as a pain to deal with
Dear Professor Wright; What wonderful insights and a breath of fresh air you are breathing upon the not only Christianity but the whole of the world. It is my heart-felt belief that it was Jesus' highest prayer that we all learn what it means to live "on earth as it is in heaven." Blessings, Rt. Rev. Charles V. Davis, A.T.O.M.
Love your teaching is so good and real marty ...i will be showing it to my family and friends all i can
THANK YOU !
..GOD HAS BLESSED YOU TO THIS FIGHT
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Hey @steven, if you don't mind, what do you believe in? Judaism?
@@CommanderShamil the truth... The scriptures besides the lying pens.
Not sure what you would call it
But i follow YAH and the prophet we spossed to hear and obey
3 reasons: ex-pagan converts didn't like circumcision, sabbath, and dietary restriction.
To bad none went x on the pagan.
They stayed 100%.
That was Constantine’s issues too😂. And fornication was another 👀
@@karenacalhoun6923 Can you elaborate on the fornication
Paul subverted christianity. Period.
@@Xaviergonzalez85 Just say you're not a Christian.
No mention of the civil war going on at the time and the very good reasons to be something different than the existing groups.
An additional reason why Paul does not specify how people should work out their salvation is this; his audience were expected to have received the Holy Spirit, which would teach them all things. So, by refraining from teaching them exactly what they were to do to work out their salvation, he submits himself and his ministry to the same Holy Spirit working in him.
Another reason why Paul doesn’t explain it is because the verb in Greek for “work out” is in the middle voice not active. The Christian is to yield themselves to the sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit conforming them to the image of Christ. We yield, it’s the Spirit’s work.
What will they think of next?!
God that was beautiful and inspiring. I don’t agree with many negative remarks. I followed the lecture fully, looked up his references and found it solid as per my own training in Christianity but also gave me more respect for this extraordinary man, Paul, and his contribution to followers of the Christ.
Sadly you are deluded and following the satanic paul and not the true message of Jesus. I hope you wake up one day from your devil induced coma
@Abraham Mani what are you talking about ? Nowhere in the bible does Jesus say categorically/clearly that he is the physical son of God. If you can bring me one clear unambiguous verse, I will convert to your satanic Pauline religion 👍
@@AbsoluteOldskoolHardcoreJungle He most certainly does say He is the Son of God but not how Dr. Naik has brainwashed you to believe: Christians do not believe that God procreated with Mary. Jesus is not created, but He is God that became man so as to save us. Zakir Naik and the Musim scholars are lying about the Bible. Jesus is not Isa... no, no, no.
@@tangokaleidos1926 you are a deluded fool and mislead others just as the devil mislead you.
@Abraham Mani Oy vey, why do you take these writings literally> Neither God nor the Bible require it.
Mathew 10:5-6....I came only for the Jews not gentiles or Samaritans???
Paul usurps JC ,James and Peter...hmmm
He never met JC and changes entire religion.
Read dueteronomy again ... He told he would go to another people who are not a people how did you miss that ??????
Isaiah 49:6
The audio is outstanding. Kudos to the sound/audio engineer.
The message too
@@shajik3380 Of course
crucifiction attempt on Jesus to remove laws will make his ppl lose blessing in mathew 21 :43 & jeremia 31 :36. pauls in acts 9:3 saw devil of luke 10 :18 went to Arabia, is lawless false prophet in mathew 24 :11 thought he's who'll correct him, comforter in John 1 :21 & 16:8, Prophet lawgiver like Musa, is Muhammad peace and blessings on him!
Jesus said God prefers Mercy not sacrifice acc. to mathew 9 & 12, this is also in isiah 1 & hoesa 6 to be sincere in repentance and do good deeds, even in ot it says the pagans used to take their offspring and sacrifice, killing an innocent is more unjust too... thats also not Mercy or forgiveness.
Jesus is only sent to his tribe, after mark 16 : 8 Jesus's 2nd appearance saying he's sent for the world is an admitted fabrication. isaiah 49 says Jesus will leave his tribe and return following the light of nations of isaiah 42, a new covenent, from the Arab Prophet from mt selah Medina, this is clearly Islam.
Abraham wasn't from juda, juda came like 2 centuries later, Ibrahim and Ismael were Muslims who built the Kaba, even Jacob imitates the hajj in genesis 28!
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543
“Do they not then meditate on the Quran? And if it were from any other than Allah, they would have found in it many a contradiction.” - Surah 4:82.
And I do find many contradictions.
How long is one day according to Allah? a. 1 day is equivalent to 1000 years (22:47) b. 1 day is equivalent to 50,000 years (70:4)
2. How long did Allah take to create the earth?a. 6 days (7:45, 10:3, 11:7, 25:59) b. 8 days (41:9-12)
3. Is heaven older or the earth older? Which was created first? a. Earth was created first (2:29, 41:9) b. Heaven was created first (79:27-30)
4. From what substance were humans made from? a. A blood clot (96:1-2) b. Water (21:30) c. Burned clay (15:26) d. Dust (3:59) e. Nothing (19:67) f. Earth (11:61) g. A drop of thick fluid (16:4, 75:37)
5. Is Shirk (idolatry) an unforgivable sin? a. Unforgivable (4:48, 4:116) b. Forgivable (4:153, 25:68-71)
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543
I WOULD NEVER THINK OF CALLING JESUS A LIAR. Quran 4:157-158 says that. I would never say Jesus did not die because Jesus said He was yet Muhammad did not believe Jesus. The following 8 POINTS prove the SACRIFICE OF JESUS.
#1 Jesus PREDICTED HIS DEATH. Jesus said: "You know that after two days is the Passover, and the Son of Man will be delivered up to be crucified," Injeel Matthew 26:2.
#2 ANGELS SAID JESUS DIED. WILL you say this angel is a liar too?
"But the angel answered and said to the women, “Do not be afraid, for I know that you seek Jesus who was crucified," Injeel Matthew 28:5.
#3 The disciple John saw and wrote about the crucifixtion of Jesus (Injeel John 19:17-26).
#4 THE BOOK OF HEBREWS SAID JESUS DIED! Jesus tasted death for every Christian, (Hebrew 2:9).
Jesus was dead and He is now resurrected ALIVE (Rev 2:8; Hebrews 5:7). The Blood of Jesus was shed (Hebrews 9:12).
#5 JESUS SAID THIS:
“Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day," Injeel Luke 24:46.
#6 The OT predicts the death of Christ:
Zechariah 12:10; Isaiah 53; Psalm 22; John 2:19-22).
#7 The WORDS OF JESUS ARE PROTECTED and ETERNAL. NOBODY CAN DISPROVE WHAT JESUS SAID AND PREDICTED ABOUT HIS DEATH:
"Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away," injeel Matthew 24:35.
#8 The CUP that Jesus feared was a CUP of SUFFERING and not death (Matthew 26:42; see Matthew 26:2 and Matthew 26:54). THERE IS NO CUP of DEATH any where in history. The prayer of Jesus to lessen his suffering proves Jesus was human, and a human sacrifice (Matthew 26:28). Yet Jesus was still God as He said when we see Him we see God in the flesh (Injeel John 14:7-9).
I invite any Muslim to try to refute any of the 8 POINTS ABOVE. If they cannot I invite Muslims and doubters to come to Jesus for their salvation. This is the WILL of God (Injeel John 6:40) and this is the very command of Jesus (Injeel Matthew 11:28-29). Do this before it is too late. Shalom.
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Everything will be revealed that has been hidden. Praise YHVH thank you Yeshua for the insight
Why was Mr Wright standing in the dark?
"I came to you in weakness and fear, and with much trembling, so your faith might not rest on men's wisdom, but on God's power..." -- The Apostle Paul
Yes. Paul, who was inconsistent and questioned his own sanity instructed us Not to use reason and critical thinking to gain wisdom, rather we should put faith in a god based only on his "power"? So then, he's a bully that we're supposed to love with our "whole" heart, mind and soul? 🤨
@@marilyna.1358 I'm not a Bible thumper by any means; but I would say the text you responded to was 'loosely' translated. Here is what I think St Paul was trying to convey: "the [appearance, life, words, example, and] resurrection of Jesus Christ is from God, not from mankind. It took the "power of God" to manifest a non-temporal, spiritual, deity-like being upon the earth. Paul's attempt to convey and present to his readers is a story with God as the source; and not devised by an elaborate, cunning scheme, thought up by the wisdom or articulation of mere men, or women, who walk the earth.
Paul is a false self proclaimed apostle. Romans 3:7, Phil 1:18, 1 Cor 9:19-22, 2 Cor 12:16 .. He was rejected as a fraud by the early jewish christians. He was called Simon Magus.
@@WISE1 Paul was a murderer and never met Jesus
@@marilyna.1358 it's called humility and wisdom. God resists the proud, but he lifts up the humble. The Scriptures make this abundantly clear. The wise heed.
This is the type English I heard and admired the first time I heard a British Subject speak. Amazing in its clarity, accuracy without wasting words. Merci monsieur.
@Abraham Mani
crucifiction attempt on Jesus to remove laws will make his ppl lose blessing in mathew 21 :43 & jeremia 31 :36. pauls in acts 9:3 saw devil of luke 10 :18 went to Arabia, is lawless false prophet in mathew 24 :11 thought he's who'll correct him, comforter in John 1 :21 & 16:8, Prophet lawgiver like Musa, is Muhammad peace and blessings on him!
Jesus said God prefers Mercy not sacrifice acc. to mathew 9 & 12, this is also in isiah 1 & hoesa 6 to be sincere in repentance and do good deeds, even in ot it says the pagans used to take their offspring and sacrifice, killing an innocent is more unjust too... thats also not Mercy or forgiveness.
Jesus is only sent to his tribe, after mark 16 : 8 Jesus's 2nd appearance saying he's sent for the world is an admitted fabrication. isaiah 49 says Jesus will leave his tribe and return following the light of nations of isaiah 42, a new covenent, from the Arab Prophet from mt selah Medina, this is clearly Islam.
Abraham wasn't from juda, juda came like 2 centuries later, Ibrahim and Ismael were Muslims who built the Kaba, even Jacob imitates the hajj in genesis 28!
When studying and interpreting any scripture keep the goal of all scriptures in mind. If it does not bring unity, love, happiness, peace and success for all in the world who are All God's children then you have to review your presentation. This is a principle that all of us must follow. What you have done unto the very least of my creation you have done unto me.
So...could we have a lecture about Hell/Gehenna/Tartarus next, and whether or not the vast majority of the world go there?
God does not torture people they are destroyed gone forever..as they would hate heaven.
The same happened in the ads also. So now the world came to the end of full of miseries and sufferings which is the huge accumulation of disobedience of that great truth taught by the lord.
Behold and beware, the 13th Apostle......
Ellie Silva
Paul says we were created to do good works right after he says for man not to take credit for obtaining salvation remember Satan is the accuser of the brethren
“For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.”
Ephesians 2:8-10
the faithless built no civilizations & Islam is the only preserved faith so humanity as a whole testifies Islam is true. atheism has no virtue & tool under marxism tyranny. building least, maiming most... not a good record. atheism is pushed by dajjal's ppl, like how paul taught lawless man worship so his farisi money $ changers can pay rulers like lobbies do today, making christianity more lawless so the farisis can rule a destructured disunited ppl, thats why the so called new atheism should really be called neo con atheism.
While Surah Fatiha teaches us to be the middle path, to not be restrictive and tyrannical like the yeahood or loose and lawless like the nasara but united and balanced under justice and Tawhid.
Have knowledge and act upon it!
As Malik Shabazz aka Malcolm X said, ONeness of Lord to = Oneness of Man!
Islam taught the west race equality and halted marxism tyranny!
reflect on aipac lobby with the left & right the left used to de-structure family with fake science & marxism and right for their structure bigotry in group level.
so its a 2 wings of a bird, one to destructure you & another to structure tyranny...
The speaker has really grasped the fundamentals of Christianity, has removed it from the realm of the mere doctrinaire creed some think it is, and has presented it as a living, transformational, yet practical way of life. This thoughtful, rational approach to the faith should be presented to all Christian churches and is foundational for true evangelism. (I am not Anglican and speak only as a seeker for Christian truth).
Hi. There is a book written by a devout Christian of thirty years.
It's very good, well researched and comes straight from the Bible.
It's called "Crucifying the Bible".
Not what I expected but happy I read it. I used my Bible throughout my reading.
Have a good night.💙🎄☃️
Paul said to people, I'm glad that you received me as an angel yes as Jesus Christ. He wasn't talking about his body but he talked about what was within him. As Jesus gave his life so did Paul , God (the word) became his life .
Jesus said no one comes to me but through the Father. He also prayed, Father I don't pray for the world but I pray for the ones you gave me out of the world and for the ones which will come to me through there words.
Paul spoke to people and said, The words I speak is not words of man but truly the words of God which works within you.
Both Jesus and Paul promoted God the word.
It's #Jesusism, doesn't rely on God's or resurrection
There is no Christian truth. Quotation of the bible, is proof of nothing.
@@jimsmith8434 I use to read the bible a lot and sometimes still do but my experience with God makes me believe in Him.
I'm to weak to believe in something which doesn't reveal itself.
I have a cousin which lives with 2/3 of brain fiction. The 1/3 which shows no fiction according to the specialist doctor is the most important part of the brain. Even he cried after seeing it.
Another cousin's son was born with a defect and died when he was about a year old. The head nurse which tried to bring him back to life advised the emergency standby doctor to not carry on with a call which he made to the specialist doctor which treated the boy from birth because according to her the child was dead. After prayer which was done in the hospital room the child opened his eyes and he is 28 years old today.
This is only a few experiences which scientists can not explain and I have much more to testify of.
Paul was never an original apostle of Yahusha. He even said himself that he was a self-appointed apostle.
@Julian Clarke my question is why you even care who the chosen ppl are. Jesus doesn’t care about skin color
@Alpha Dog if you are a Jew youre not a christian , the old is shadow of the new , so why do you prefere the puke instead of fresh meat ?
@Julian Clarke so then youre not of Jesus
@Julian Clarke i don’t believe there is any actual evidence of the Israelites being brown skinned. That revelation verse is talking about Jesus heavenly form as well, not his earth form.
@Julian Clarke are you Hebrew Israelite? If so i hope you know that sect is excellent at cherry picking verses and manipulating already established distain for white people into full blown hatred.
I would say focusing on skin color is not the message of Gospels, and anyone looking to establish anything involved in that is playing to the flesh(ego).
We all know Jesus wasn’t white and would resemble i believe light brown? Not sure it’s irrelevant. Jesus came for all nations and ppl despite skin color
Didn't y'all learn anything from Tovia Singer?
Paul never knew Jesus.....how did he have any right to tell us anything about what Jesus thought?
Mayme Trumble HE DID know jesus ,not in the flesh ,but he did know him after the resurrection ,and once Christ had resurrected he had revealed the Whole Plan the the one and only apostle paul for the gentiles Acts 20:27 .he was raised to the third heaven where he heard the ineffable words that men could not speak .2 Corinthians 12:2 .and plus paul said that if we have looked at jesus according to the flesh before,we no longer look at him like that 2 Corinthians 5:16,he also said that we should belong to the one who rose from the dead(his second manifestation)
corvan lopez Sorry, don't believe it, but I am happy that you do. My personal belief is that Jesus was a Buddhist. He tried to bring the concept of love and forgiveness to his people, the Jews, who were "an eye for eye" kind of culture. He succeeded in part.
Mayme Trumble ,ok so where is it written in the bible ,that jesus was specifically following the Four noble truths and the eightfold path?.because if your saying that he was a Buddhist you would know that in Buddhism they believe in following the eightfold path and the Four noble truths,correct?,
Mayme Trumble
What Are You Talking About! Paul was a eyewitness "as of one born out of due time" (1 Corinthians 15:18). He personally saw the risen Christ and was taught by Him for 3½ years in Arabia (Galatians 1:17, 1 Corinthians 11:2, 23) - which occurred after his conversion in Damascus.
Many Muslims Don't Talk About This! That Paul personally saw the risen Christ and was taught by Him for 3½ years in Arabia.
Paul certainly knew Jesus; that is clear from scripture. If you don't trust the words of the Bible, then we're not really going to be able to communicate on this point.
I think Paul's desire for us to think "Christianly" was very dangerous, for we vary in what we think is Christian Theology is for us, individually. For example, one Christian can use a scripture to promote celibacy as a virtue whereas another Christian can find another scripture in the bible that does not favor celibacy. Thus, this does not promote unity at all. We must find authentic laws about celibacy that are inspired by God we can both agree on. After all, God determines what path is right, not our own theology.
I don't know what you're reading? Definitely not Paul!
Christians spend enormous amounts of time and effort discussing and debating about whether the rhino that they think they saw in the distance, through thick fog, had two horns or one. The real question, to which they seem oblivious, is 'was there a rhino at all?'
25:00 “to think their way around the fact that there is now a new form of wisdom.”
But it is an old wisdom, now fulfilled. Not “a new form” but that which was from the beginning, now available.
Christianity don't follow Jesus teaching...but Paul!!
BULL!
Who cares, God does not exist
Paul follows Jesus's teaching. We follow Jesus. Jesus follows the Fathers teaching.
Who do you follow?
That would be incorrect. You clearly haven't read the first 100 years of Christianity.
Without paul the Christian's are doomed. Because jesus only came for the lost sheep of the house of israel.. so they have to cleave to paul..
Don’t understand how the gentleman knows what Paul said in perhaps only 7 of the 13 letters 2000 years ago? Paul never even knew Jesus. Paul, Joseph Smith and Mohamed all had visions; whose right?
None of them are right
You have to analyse yourself. Mohammeds (PBUH) work focus on continuation of the work of Noah, Abraham, Moses and Jesus and all other came before.
A lot of people accuse Mohammed of copying the other religion little do they realise they prove the continuity..
If one tries to invent some for themselves that's when you know they are not legit...
Who is Macion?
Is NT Wright Catholic? Or Born Again/Protestant Christian????
At 13:33...The central argument of his thesis/book: Paul invented and developed both the task of Christian theology and its particular content to meet specific and pressing needs in the early Church, and to do so (sustain unity/holiness) by learning to think with the mind of the Messiah.
Your own understanding is not a promiss from creator.
Thank You for Showing The spreading of the word of God through Paul .
Paul never spreading of the Word of God, but spreading his own thoughts through his natural scripture knowledge!
I doubt if this is really the Christianity of Christ.
@@magatism The Calvinists are a little wrong with the doctrine of Atonement.
Jesus ’mission was different for Jews and Gentiles.
In the "Old Covenant," the Jews were affected by the law to bless the entire people if they obeyed all that was prescribed by law. There was a curse for infidelity to God's ordinances.
So obedience to the law affected the destiny of the whole nation, with an equal destiny for both good and evil. Therefore, they were subjected to constant wars and were eventually conquered by other Nations.
Israel's infidelity was directed at God. Thus Israel had to atone for infidelity against God.
Calvinists focus their teachings on individuals and thus on the wrong foundations of the doctrine of the remission of the sins of individuals through the Atonement of Jesus. As I said above, it is different from what the Bible teaches.
Jesus therefore saved Israel. This all happened through the rules in the Old Testament.
It must be understood that every matter raised by God Himself develops new legislation for the task of atonement. It includes all the revelations of the prophets.
@@suaptoest Nope, that's a made up distinction. Jews were the sick who needed the doctor most, but they denied Jesus. God does not belong to a people, that's just absurd.
Jesus came for those who would believe in him and return to God's fold, that's why he said, "“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me". There's no Jews and Gentiles there.
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Happy and Peaceful New year Pastor and big blessings to you all
Nver was though and you keep dreaming ? Lord has gave no peace . and when did you decide it was. its hell and hear your voiding it because maby your triping on some thing. suffering deaths in front of us and your all voiding it happy go lucky idiot. make one kind of ill to see such void.
What did Jesus teach in earliest known versions of the 4 gospels (Mark, Matthew, Luke, John) except Islam?
1) Tawhid & Rahma - Mark 12.29 Mathew 12 :7
2) Law - Mathew 5.17, Jon 14.23 vs. - no mercy/law in Paul Heb 9 & romans 10.4
3) He is only human like David - Luke 3.22 nrsv footnote , Jon 5 :30
4) No crucifi-ction - no witnesses until jon switch mother Mary's place, if you honest this shows deliberate change from narrative it has no evidence matching Islam. Quran 3 :54 & 55 to Thesalonians 2 :9! Mark 16 :8 is original ending, no 2nd showing of Jesus copied by other gospels
5) There is a Prophet after Jesus to come named Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him with verses like jon 1.21, Isaiah 42 etc.
paul in acts 9.3 saw deviI of luke 10 :18 & removed Jesus's commands in romans 10 :4, matches false no command prophet in mathew 24:11...
even paul looked for prophet in Arabia in gal 1 :17, who comes after Jesus in Jon 1 :21...
Anything other then this is a contradiction of Jesus earliest message consistent with all prophets before or figurative. Game over.
Like Quran 3 :7 says use the clear verses to define the unclear verses!
Matthew 24:23, so with whom or what did Saul have his encounter. Which he tells of three times differently. He teaches differently from Jesus. He and only he claims that Jesus died for our sins. The old testament never said that and neither did Jesus or Peter nor James or John or John the Baptist.
It is anathema in the Torah that the innocent die(sacrificed) for the sins of the wicked.
@@Leo-xj8hw That's incorrect. The Torah is against human sacrifice, God forbade it, and a human cannot make vicarious atonement for another.
@@isaaclosh8606 that's what I said excuse me if I gave you the wrong impression.
'For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.' Matthew 26:28.
Try reading the Bible before commenting!
My question would be: On whose authority did Paul do what he did?
Very good question. We only have Pauls word. There is nothing like Paul's writings anywhere in the bible. He comes out of nowhere with these ideas and claims divine inspiration. Very fishy.
Paul never met Jesus. His theology is his and his alone. The fact is Jesus, James and their movement were strictly observant of all Torah commendments. Jesus would be suprised and upset that Christians made him into god.
Sam Mark Paul was a narcissist/sociopath in my opinion!
Jesus did not keep all OT laws. He declared all foods clean, worked on the Sabbath and even got rid of the eye for an eye law. Matthew 38 says "You have learned...eye for eye..But what I tell you is this: Do not set yourself against the man who wronged you. If someone slaps you on the right cheek, turn and offer him your left. Christians did not make Jesus God. He himself said that he was God. That's why they killed him. I almost feel sad that your are so uneducated about Christianity and the bible.
ONLY HIS OWN AUTHORITY
Very interesting insights
where does non-duality come in ?
I don't mean this as any kind of negative comment only a sincere question so I can understand what most theologians are claiming ; are we to regard Paul as infallible ???? Are we to believe Paul spoke to Jesus and that Jesus " dictated to Paul" exactly what he wanted his followers to believe. ??? I am not against that belief but it is a very different belief then one would get reading Acts .
Paul hated the other disciples . Did Jesus tell Paul that ??? That Jesus did not want us to follow the disciples ????? I just want to get it straight so we can even discuss it.
could you pinpoint , where exactly Paul stated : that he hated the Disciples ? .
‘Hate’ is an awfully strong word, but these two did have a sharp encounter. We see it unfold in Galatians 2:11-19, where Paul rebukes his fellow apostle for caving in to the prejudice of a group who said that people from all ethnic backgrounds had to satisfy the Jewish ritual law before they could become proper Christians. This meant, for instance, that men had to be circumcised and that no one could eat pork.
This is VERY important . Some traveled with Jesus Paul did not. If you traveled with the Prophet Muhammad , is it possible you were not aware how he felt about eating pork ? You would see it every day as you encountered strangers and potential converts he spoke to . You would know exactly how he felt.
Paul does not care.
@@winstonshipman8734 Firstly, you said that "Paul hated the other disciples", which is patently false, and a wicked fabrication. Secondly when called on your source for suggesting this ridiculous and wicked claim, you then backpeddled and said "Hate' is an awfully strong word" as if the other fellow (Tony) is the one who suggested it. You admitted no wrongdoing. No, instead you bring up a "sharp encounter" that Paul had with Peter and with Peter ALONE. It had nothing whatsoever to do with the "other disciples", and it most certainly didn't display any kind of "hatred" that Paul had for Peter. In fact it was LOVE for Peter, and for other fellow Christians, and especially love for the Gospel of Christ, that Paul rebuked Peter. And he was right to do so. We see in Galatians 2 "But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. For before certain men came from James, he was eating with the Gentiles; but when they came he drew back and separated himself, fearing the circumcision party. And the rest of the Jews acted hypocritically along with him, so that even Barnabas was led astray by their hypocrisy. But when I saw that their conduct was not in step with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas before them all, “If you, though a Jew, live like a Gentile and not like a Jew, how can you force the Gentiles to live like Jews?”"
There's nothing of hatred there, so why would you go and make it as if it was? And we can see that Peter certainly didn't take it as hatred, but loved Paul and respected his Apostolic authority as one who was called directly by the risen Christ, for Peter writes of Paul's writings: "And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures." (2 Peter 3:15-16)
Notice how Peter refers to Paul's letters as "Scripture" in comparing what Paul writes and how wicked people twist what Paul has written "just as they do the other Scriptures". Isn't this what you're doing? Repent quickly.
And Paul did so IN LIGHT OF THE WORD, and in light of the vision that Christ gave to Peter. Paul would've reminded Peter of the vision of the sheet containing every kind of unclean animal, whereupon the Lord said "Rise, kill, and eat", and in Christ's teaching: "And he said to them, “Then are you also without understanding? Do you not see that whatever goes into a person from outside cannot defile him, since it enters not his heart but his stomach, and is expelled?”f (Thus he declared all foods clean)." (Mark 7:18-19)
And Paul was able to do these things as well from a theological studies point of view having been a rabbi himself, whereas Peter was a fisherman. Peter's apostolic authority was equal with that of Paul, but his knowledge of the Scriptures and of how one verse answers another was not as extensive, though certainly not lacking. And both of them were inspired by the Holy Spirit. Therefore notice that we have no written teaching by Peter telling us not to eat pork, and to observe Jewish tradition? Right. And we were never supposed to. Everything that we're supposed to have is what we have, by infallible and inerrant inspiration of the Spirit of God, along with the preservation of the Word.
You end your outrageous rant with "Paul does not care".
Well, I've certainly proven otherwise.
Repent now, while there's time.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4
15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Find those words in the scripture for me pls
Where in Scripture, then? Show us.
What did Jesus teach in earliest known versions of the 4 gospels (Mark, Matthew, Luke, John) except Islam?
1) Tawhid & Rahma - Mark 12.29 Mathew 12 :7
2) Law - Mathew 5.17, Jon 14.23 vs. - no mercy/law in Paul Heb 9 & romans 10.4
3) He is only human like David - Luke 3.22 nrsv footnote , Jon 5 :30
4) No crucifi-ction - no witnesses until jon switch mother Mary's place, if you honest this shows deliberate change from narrative it has no evidence matching Islam. Quran 3 :54 & 55 to Thesalonians 2 :9! Mark 16 :8 is original ending, no 2nd showing of Jesus copied by other gospels
5) There is a Prophet after Jesus to come named Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him with verses like jon 1.21, Isaiah 42 etc.
paul in acts 9.3 saw deviI of luke 10 :18 & removed Jesus's commands in romans 10 :4, matches false no command prophet in mathew 24:11...
even paul looked for prophet in Arabia in gal 1 :17, who comes after Jesus in Jon 1 :21...
Anything other then this is a contradiction of Jesus earliest message consistent with all prophets before or figurative. Game over.
Like Quran 3 :7 says use the clear verses to define the unclear verses!
Amen
Can someone help me out? Who is paul? Thank you.
You yourself find out. Pray in the name of Jesus Christ ask for revelation from clean heart and you will know so that no one can deceive you of who Apostle Paul is.
@@ITAKEJESUSCHRISTATHISWORD Thank you for the advice, why do I have to pray in the name of jesus christ? What, who or which kind of entity is jesus christ? A human being? An extraterrestrial being? From your name I know you are a Ghanaian so is this jesus christ a Ghanaian hero, a Ghanaian president, a Ghanaian warrior or a Ghanaian celebrity? Why do you refer to this paul dude as an apostle? I have so much to learn, can you help me out?
@@kofiata Your reply doesn't show a person who wants to learn or know because you might have a hidden agenda. And you can't say you haven't heard about Jesus Christ because Christians are the followers of Jesus Christ and you have heard about Christianity. Maybe you want to argue but it won't help like arguments between a teacher and a farmer who contributes to the nations development. At the end of the day there is no declaration of a winner . Thank you.
@@ITAKEJESUSCHRISTATHISWORD You are right, I was born in a christian community and I was raised as such,,,,, jesus is God, jesus is saviour, the only way, the bible is the word of God etc. Now I come accross "the epic of gilgamesh" (2100BC) the dead sea scrolls (3rd century BCE) " and "ancient sumerian texts" (4500-4000BC).. All these were existing and written long before the days of jesus and long before the beginning of christianity.. Now am peplexed and wondering what to believe. .
@@kofiata All those books I had read them and I have 1500plus pdfs about history and such stories and I don't think I can finish reading them before my Lord God Christ Jesus calls me. You know when you are not a Muslim and don't join any other religion(Buddhism, Hindu etc.)people take you as a Christian and I was one. My mother liked fetishism and my father is a Jehovah witness and they were not married i was staying with my mother and church wasn't my thing because my mom wasn't attending too I only go because people continuously insisted so all those day I attend church maybe 8 to 10 . In the 2015 something happened in my life my most secret thing that no one ever knew was told me by a man of God of which I immediately thought in my mind to deny and he told me before l opened my mouth " don't try to deny" because 3 days ago you did this in your room and you thought know one knows but God says I should tell you " HE IS WATCHING YOU AND HE KNOWS YOU" I cried that day before the man of God . So many things he told me God told to him to tell me. But you know humans from there for some time I simply neglected all until I was warned again when I visited another church that God wanted me to baptised and because there is a problem am going to fall into HE wants to save me from that but disobedience was all over me I neglected again and with 6months time I was in big problem that could have led me to death because of combine pressure ,depression stress and one morning I just gave up and all my knees I called upon Him praying in His Mighty name Jesus Christ before I went to office to see the CEO of the private company and from my room to the office and the whole scenario took 15 to 20 minutes I was set free. My Brother for me, I have so many things to say but if they didn't happen to you , they are very hard to believe because I had dreams, visions , hear His voice and spiritual attack of which first I took them for nonsense when I wasn't a Christian but now all those Jesus Christ had shown me and He still shows me when He desires are my foundation in Jesus Christ as my Lord and God so upon all that I read, hear , watch I have something that keep me on on Jesus Christ and I don't how I will throw all of them away been a witness of myself. I pray Jesus Christ shows you as He is doing for me Amen 🙏
This is the Divinity school?
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I was worried the comments would be disabled. I'm glad they weren't! I knew this would draw the crazies out and I wasn't disappointed! Thanks everyone!
you want crazy go to one of those Catholic Forums
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the crazies are the speakers
The close minded fundamentalists are out
It's so amazing to me that people use the book thats in question to defend the book
Prepare to be “amazed” some more! Here goes:
2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness
@@JohnnyBeeDawg once again using the bible to defend the bible, did you ever look at the Egyptian book of the dead and seen how much stuff is copied
@@kjay1500 Egyptian book of the dead doesnt have 500 correct prophesies in 66 books written over thousands of years on several continents by over 2 dozen authors without any error or contradiction. But all of that IS true for the Bible. The Bible proves & defends itself. Nothing was copied from the book of the dead. All of the AV 1611 was inspired by God.
@@JohnnyBeeDawg ok
Thank fuck you said that, I thought it was just me that keeps saying it!
Why does he keep saying Two Corinthians instead of Second Corinthians? He says First Corinthians but says Two Corinthians? Very strange!
Because he's BRITISH!
What did Jesus teach his disciples? What did Paul talk abt Jesus?
Mark 1:1 This is the beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Paul's message was not new, and although Peter found some things written by Paul complicated, he differed not in the message of the gospel, and it's implications.
@@faithfultheology and?
@@faithfultheology the people that knew Jesus, like John, James, Matthew and Peter, never said anywhere that Paul was preaching anything heretical, in that sense the creed of Mark 1:1 was the creed of all of them.
@@faithfultheology sorry for the misunderstanding, I can see how it looks, my point was more to show that they all saw the same, and nothing of what Paul said, was controversial, and they all would attest to Mark 1:1
One thing I get from this lecture is that to have the mind of Christ is not quite as simple as looking up a relevant text and applying it to any given situation.
To live the law of love thy neighbor
(Which is what life ask for)
requires that we apply the principle of love rather than chapter and verse prescriptions for "behavior"".
We "work out our salvation with fear and trembling" as Paul puts it.
To read the gospels one cannot but help to feel how stultifying and arid the spiritual, or inner life of the times were.
No wonder the scripture says, "and the common people heard him gladly".
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I got the same thing from it. I think there is and should be a balance. On one hand, as the lecturer explain, it cannot be seen as a list of rules that answers every situation that arises. At the same time, it is quite clear how tremendously demanding Jesus is of us In terms of the straight and narrow path, and what it means to truly follow him by taking up our cross and denying ourselves, and that he strongly emphasized numerous times the big importance of caring for the very poor. If we ignore and don’t try hard to fulfill those essential demands and principles of Jesus, we in essence don’t actually believe him or believe in him, and we risk not having eternal wonderful salvation. Thus, people need to be careful to not use lectures like this - and the theme that Paul and the Bible are not telling us what to do in all situations - to take a path in which they fail to put their all hearts and minds towards those things I just described above.
Rather, they should remember what the lecturer says: that in order to reach holiness - which is a word that summarizes what I wrote above - we need to engage in the things he talked about such as the renewing of our minds, becoming more like Christ the prototype and learning to think like Christ plus connect with and be inspired by the Spirit.
One thing to also keep in mind when reading Paul and engaging in Christian theology is the single demand of utmost importance that Peter and the other original members of Jesus‘s inner circle put on Paul, which was: don’t forget the poor. Paul and the original disciples had a sizable number of disagreements. When they met in person to go over those disagreements, The original disciples we’re willing to give in on all of them except for one: which is that Paul should make sure that caring for the poor is remembered in the plan. unfortunately, for various reasons most of us modern Christians do very very little to help the poor.
I am not talking about the so-called American poor, nearly all of whom are in the richest 30% of people in the world and nearly all of whom would have been considered rich by the standards that Jesus used when he talked about the poor and the rich. I am talking about the poorest third of humanity, who are trying to survive on only several dollars per day for all of their needs including shelter, food, transportation, clothing and all else. we have forgotten the poor, and any theology that does not include some amount of focus on the poor is not a Christian theology. I suggest that people read the book named the Hole in our Bibles… for more information on this topic.
2 Thessalonians 2:8-10 KJV
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
@@DailySource - it would help if the ‘poor’ stopped breeding more poor, to be poor.
@@masada2828 That the poor should 'Stop' having children is part of the NWO. May as well not be living is the end results.
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The resurrection from the dead actually comes from Hebrew theology and it deals with the feast of First Fruits. Notice what Jesus stated in John 4:22 and notice what Paul stated in Romans 9:4-5.
TOO BAD IT NEVER HAPPENED
@@neilreinhardt556 So why did all those guys die for a fantasy?
1 John 1
That which was from the beginning, that which we have heard, that which we have seen with our eyes, that which we did behold, and our hands did handle, concerning the Word of the Life --
and the Life was manifested, and we have seen, and do testify, and declare to you the Life, the age-during, which was with the Father, and was manifested to us --
Young's literal translation
Public domain
@@andalusianguitarist FIRST, PROVE THEY DID. SECOND IF THEY DID THEY WERE IDIOTS!
@@andalusianguitarist THERE IS ZERO SECULAR HISTORICAL EVIDENCE THE CHRISTIAN REIGION IS BASED ON EVENTS WHICH ACTUALL HAPPENED!!!
@@neilreinhardt556 Your approach is rather childish and can be answered by you proving why he didn't rise from the grave when it was clearly recorded in scriptures such as Isaiah 53 which even predicted that he would die among transgressors as well as being with the rich in his death. Fact is that you cannot account for the precise way in which the chronological prophecy of the 70 weeks was fulfilled in all the essential details such as the fact that the Messiah would arrive prior to the destruction of the second temple in 70 AD by the Romans and this was recorded in Daniel 9:26-27. Fact is that after the Messiah's death came the destruction of the second Temple and even the prediction of the commencement of the Jewish Roman wars. Daniel was written 500 years before Christ.
Jesus was placed in the tomb of Joseph of Arimathea a rich man.
Recognizing that the only scriptures known to Paul and the apostles are what we Christians refer to as the Old Testament, would you say he was faithful to the mission of teaching scriptures, given his exhortations to think differently as you've explained, in ways that might not have been supported contextually by the scriptures of his day?
the late false prophet wannabe of Muhammad, paul went to Arabia in galatians 1 :17 as final prophet is of there, lawless false prophet of mathew 24 :11 in romans 10 :3. hence lawful prophet after messia in John 1 :21, of deut 18 :18, new covenent isiah 42 & comforter! paul in acts 9 :3 saw devil of luke 10 : 18 and in addition when he removed the laws it removed the blessings of his tribe to Arabs, mathew 21 :43 - the fruitful given the kingdom is Ismael in genesis 17... Jeremisa 31 says removal of laws removes the blessings!
Apostle Paul received divine Revelation directly from jesuschrist. This Revelation is about the salvation of non Jewish people, aka gentiles. (Vaguely mentioned in the old Testament)
Evidence is: Letters to 7 gentile churches,(1)Romans. (2)Corinthians. (3)Galatians. (4)Ephesians
(5) Philippians. (7) Colossians. (7) Tessalonians. All of these written by Paul.
@@paulgarduno3127 pauls in acts 9 :3 saw the devil acc. to Jesus in luke 10 : 18...
You cut and paste bible, shows you are inconsistent and defeat self!
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 you may choose to defame Paul's ministry , but, the enemies of Jesuschrist were doing the same in Paul's time.
I prefer to face death, with the same conviction that Paul did.
If you try to get gentiles to observe Moses Law, you're dead wrong. The leper Nahaman got healed from his leprosy, and he wanted to do something, but the prophet wouldn't allow him.
Different to the leper who Messiah healed, and told him " to do the offering ordained by the Law."
I like the way Chuck Missler put it so I copied what is I think a quote from him about the Bible: “It is sixty-six books written by forty authors, written between 1446 B.C. & 90 A.D. But, now we discover that it is an integrated message system from outside our time and space domain.”
― Chuck Missler
In other words, it's written by God, guided by His Holy Spirit through his servants, like Paul - however we Christians would want to say it.
Even though Paul was talking about the Old Testament, I think this applies to the words written in the New Testament guided by the inspiration of God: 2nd Timothy 3: "16 All Scripture given by inspiration of God, and profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work." If it wasn't it would have fallen apart a very long time ago. And, people would not have faith through hearing and hearing through the Word of God.
I think Paul's writings included in the New Testament are just part of the whole message of the Bible. So that we don't say, I am of Cephas, I am of Paul, or I am of ...
The Old Testament is the NT concealed. The New Testament is the old revealed.
What does Mr Wright think of those who believe Paul was a gnostic.
Oh he was definitely the first gnostic in the body, Hellenistic Christianity which is the Father of Protestantism starts with shaul and his dualism, his ascetism, and his gnostic belief in an evil creator God.
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Has the professor happen to ask "what could be Paul's motivation to invent Christianity?"
Gen 49:27.
He’s a fool. Jesus specifically instructed him on what to write and teach.
What do you think it was?
@@williamsmith8790 it’s called Romans through Philemon. 13 epistles of Paul to the body of Christ.
KING JAMES
This might as well be the first ever sermon I've heard.
His faith I respect.
crucifiction attempt on Jesus to remove laws will make his ppl lose blessing in mathew 21 :43 & jeremia 31 :36. pauls in acts 9:3 saw devil of luke 10 :18 went to Arabia, is lawless false prophet in mathew 24 :11 thought he's who'll correct him, comforter in John 1 :21 & 16:8, Prophet lawgiver like Musa, is Muhammad peace and blessings on him!
Jesus said God prefers Mercy not sacrifice acc. to mathew 9 & 12, this is also in isiah 1 & hoesa 6 to be sincere in repentance and do good deeds, even in ot it says the pagans used to take their offspring and sacrifice, killing an innocent is more unjust too... thats also not Mercy or forgiveness.
Jesus is only sent to his tribe, after mark 16 : 8 Jesus's 2nd appearance saying he's sent for the world is an admitted fabrication. isaiah 49 says Jesus will leave his tribe and return following the light of nations of isaiah 42, a new covenent, from the Arab Prophet from mt selah Medina, this is clearly Islam.
Abraham wasn't from juda, juda came like 2 centuries later, Ibrahim and Ismael were Muslims who built the Kaba, even Jacob imitates the hajj in genesis 28!
@@911mossadvanbombersclassif4 You have no clue what you are talking about. None whatsoever. Mohammed is nowhere recorded in the Bible and he was a false prophet
@@911mossadvanbombersclassif4 Thanks for your excellent eisegesis. Friend.
@@911mossadvanbombersclassif4
Jesus ushered in the New Covenant. Jesus is the Deuteronomy 18:18 who spoke every word from God. Muhammad mixed in many words from Satan like Quran 4:34, Qurab 4:157 and Quran 22:15.
2 Thessalonians 2:8-10 KJV
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
Human decency is not derived from religion. It precedes it.
Christopher Hitchens
The main question..is the bible Jesus's words or Paul's words?
Paul's. He's the one telling everyone that Jesus was the Son of God. Jesus didn't make such claims.
@@akusukasingkong3433 where do you find your claim? Do you even read the Bible?
@@stephenmnkande8192 he read it. You dont understand it.
"Christians" are so lost in christian theology that they lost Jesus message - that humanity are siblings and we should treat each other as such. Now let's do it!
We humanity are siblings, descendants of Adam yes... But that's not the message he left. It was a message, but not THE message.
Love Wins!
@Abraham Mani dude, timing is important we are still in the Age of Grace... Preach repentance on autotheism, pantheism, paganism, new age and other stuff that detours people from the only Agent of Salvation: Yeshúa, there is no other way to have a life after this life only through him, as for he commands all humanity to return to him and his ways because other gods and other means have been nullified.
Stop having bastard children. They aren't wanted by society. Nothing but criminals.
I don't care what this book peddler has to say. Paul knew Peter and Peter knew Jesus --VERY WELL..
After having thought about your wonderful lecture, I feel impressed to say something I believe to be of vital importance. Namely, the gospel of Jesus, The Christ, is not about Jesus; it's about the Kingdom of Heaven. That's his good news! It seems that most Christians don't really get this point. His teachings are not about himself. They are about what we are in God's sight and how we should act toward one another if we want to learn how to live "on earth as it is in heaven." Thanks again. Charles, A.T.O.M.
You see what few see. Narrow is the gate and few find it.
The good news is that the Jesus potential exists within each person.
I was going to go to a seminary, but not now.
@Charles Davis
Pick up a Quran and read. I'm a Muslim. The ONLY people on the face of the earth who uphold and preach and defend the doctrine and honor of Jesus OF THE BIBLE are the Muslim. The Bible testifies.
*BY THE FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM*
Thanks to Saul aka Paul the Feroci0us W0LF in SHEEP'S clothing whom Jesus WARNED about, it's Christianity / Christians making a 🚩 *LIAR of Jesus of the Bible* till the end of times. The Bible testifies 🔥
1)
✔️ Jesus: THE FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD.
✖️ Christians: NO. The Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit (The Trinity) is the true God.
2)
✔️Jesus: NO payment needed, NO Jesus died for us. Just repent sincerely and the Merciful God (THE ONLY TRUE GOD - THE FATHER) forgives.
✖️ Christians: NO. Salvation comes by the blood of Jesus and his dying on the cross
3)
✔️ Jesus: Keep the Laws and the commandments if you want eternal life
✖️ Christians: NO. Eternal life comes by faith in the sacrifice of Jesus
4)
✔️ Jesus: Do NOT neglect even the smallest laws
✖️ Christians: NO. Those laws are unimportant
5)
✔️ Jesus: I was sent ONLY for the lost sheep of Israel
✖️ Christians: NO. Jesus came for us all, Jesus came for all of mankind
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shalom yaohsharal, this is about my people.
shalom lacham
Saul/Paul invented or the person to whom it it was revealed.
Not invented . Reveled.
Paul's letter have caused more problems in christianity than any others. Religious people thinks his letters are word of God.
I agree with u 100%, but oddly the reason im watching this vid is a total paul lover sent me the link.
Just started, and im wondering where this vid is going?
@@anomilumiimulimona2924 Paul did not invented Christianity, he destroyed Christianity. Christianity does not exist.
Anti-Christ will rise from Chritianity itself not from not from other Religious communities like buddhism,Islam,Hinduism,judaism.
@@constanciofuticmanglan8550 pretty good chance.
I think it will be fem, or with whats going on, perhaps trans
Mcrina you are 100 procent right and i talked to so many Christian and they can not accept the Truth but still confused on their Christian religion .. Christian follow more Paul than they follow real Jesus and the 10 commandments of old testement the law of Moses lol
sometimes in exceptional case an invisible spirit can be in a moment of moment with you in any difficlt situationit is alloved
Go ahead keep talking wide and loud it is your time to speak the truth.thank you
Great deep talk yet and I understand the exposition of "unity and holiness." But I question the use of the terms "Paul invented." Paul received REVELATIONS..he did not "invent" what he taught. He refers to them throughout as "mysteries." He didn't invent --create design something that has not existed. He taught what was revealed to him by Christ after ascension...WHO INVENTED IT. May be splitting hairs but this terminology is likely to contribute to those who resist Paul's teaching. While Tom's words are eloquent and enlightening that term is a distraction to what Tom is trying to get across.
Cope
It's dishonest, plain and simple...Cope with lies???
That's what Paul would have you believe but unfortunately most of what he has revealed makes no sense to anyone who can think logically. This link does not even scratch the surface.... th-cam.com/video/pYsDD1-tDNs/w-d-xo.html
My thoughts exactly. Otherwise why is Paul comparing his revelation to the first hand experience of Jesus disciples if his goal was to be original. Paul was a Jew who was transformed and mostly spoke as a transformed Jew with a goal of reaching other Jews. He was putting Christians to death before his transformation and he knew that following Christ was a death sentence for himself as well.
@@boxelder9167 Paul cannot be trusted, neither can any of the other chaps.
The only question that comes to my mind is, did God want a new world? Paul was acting independently of God?
Never. Christ revealed to Paul "salvation by grace through faith."
For Paul, as for Jesus, this gracious salvation and the faith that ushers it in, involved active anticipation of the coming Kingdom of the Messiah, which indeed would be a "New Creation". This salvation alone presents the solution to what went wrong in the garden, long ago. Those who anticipate this new world are its citizens, a new creation themselves.
That's BS.
In Luke Jesus is asked specifically on two separate occasions by people - what must I do to inherit eternal life?
Neither of his answers in any way reflects the concept of "salvation by grace through faith.".
You're worshiping Paul instead of Jesus.
To thesmithdorian: Yes, Jesus didn't reveal salvation by the cross until after His resurrection when He spoke to Saul of Tarsus/Paul. I worship Jesus Christ the Lord.
Gerald Nichols
You mean until years after his ascension when he supposedly spoke to Paul.
After his resurrection he spoke to the Disciples and didn't say anything about salvation by the cross.
Why is the main question how is a little easier to answer…
Which religion are true because many are not according to the Bible Mathew 7;21,1JOHN 4;1?
Religion does not have to be "right". Spirituality does! If rambling under a tree, beside a montain or under the sea as a religious ritual brings you the discipline and orderliness that leads you to loving others and righteousness, your real spiritual essence will inevitably be connected with the divine omnipotence. Humans are inertly spiritual beings encased in a material case called the body which goes to the grave and decays once the spiritual contents reunites with the universal omnipotence that had actually been its source. Anybody can invent, start a religion. It is only a false religion when it enforces superiority, inhibits liberty and freedom, invade the circle of the worthwhile comfort of others and has no regard for the most important attribute of universal love. It is not the authencity of the religion. It is the effect its ideology induces!
A vague sense of spirituality is entirely subjective, and therefore useless in determining absolute truth. And you are here asserting your own dogma as absolute truth that is binding to others. Actually, it seems that you are heavily influenced by Christian theology in your value of love. But love in it’s true form requires a “binding and limiting of freedom.” How could a man love his wife if he does not choose to restrict his freedom to womanize? To choose one thing, you must necessarily forsake some other things.
NT Wright is quite a brilliant man. He is one of the seminal scholars of our time and he showed the transition between Second Temple Judaism and Christianity and why it made sense. If you read his series of scholarly work about this, it's pretty incredible. The footnotes and references to Second Temple material (Biblical and non-Biblical) is really incredible. I don't know how Wright accomplished what he did.
God always helps.
What did Jesus teach in earliest known versions of the 4 gospels (Mark, Matthew, Luke, John) except Islam?
1) Tawhid & Rahma - Mark 12.29 Mathew 12 :7
2) Law - Mathew 5.17, Jon 14.23 vs. - no mercy/law in Paul Heb 9 & romans 10.4
3) He is only human like David - Luke 3.22 nrsv footnote , Jon 5 :30
4) No crucifi-ction - no witnesses until jon switch mother Mary's place, if you honest this shows deliberate change from narrative it has no evidence matching Islam. Quran 3 :54 & 55 to Thesalonians 2 :9! Mark 16 :8 is original ending, no 2nd showing of Jesus copied by other gospels
5) There is a Prophet after Jesus to come named Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him with verses like jon 1.21, Isaiah 42 etc.
paul in acts 9.3 saw deviI of luke 10 :18 & removed Jesus's commands in romans 10 :4, matches false no command prophet in mathew 24:11...
even paul looked for prophet in Arabia in gal 1 :17, who comes after Jesus in Jon 1 :21...
Anything other then this is a contradiction of Jesus earliest message consistent with all prophets before or figurative. Game over.
Like Quran 3 :7 says use the clear verses to define the unclear verses!
Surely you mean his footnotes to Second Temple material et al... is "Credible" Not "Incredible!"
Not at all, Paul needs to be questioned - check this with Rabbi scholars...
If the antidote to Christianity is not literacy; then we might as well ignore a deity, unable to make itself known to everyone.
is his name Tom ? ? ....freaks me out....the name Sir David Suchet is on the right hand side of my screen...........what is going on ?
Presently studying the differences between Paul and the apostles/Peter and James and those sent from them.
Goulder and many others
Paul is the first man to write letters to his followers and thus invented Christianity, but later anonymous Gospel authors supported him and strengthened Christianity by writing books as eyewitnesses.
Greek knowing Gospel authors who wrote the Gospels must be the members of Paul's churches, during those days after the Denise of paul.
not true.
James is not a biological brother of Jesus.
Paul wrote the first letter to the Romans in 53/ 54 ce.
@@CollinBerry_Finn pl understand the meaning of brother in the Hebrew language
This was written in the third person as someone written in the name of James.
How could you except an illiterate half-brother of Jesus who was James wrote this book in koine Greek which was a foreign language to him?
Let us be practical rather than living with blind faith.
@@CollinBerry_Finn Jesus and his followers knew only Galilee dialect of Aramaic Hellenistic Jews knew Greek to some extent and the official language was Latin for the rulers in the first century. CE.but not koine Greek and the same is not in existence as of now.
The Bible scholars admitted that Greek was a foreign language to the jews. Persons like Paul were multilingual as he knew Latin, Greek, and Hebrew.
pl, understand the literacy rate in Galilee in the first century was 3 percent and the literates were temple priests or Pharisees or Sadducees or the Qumran community people, not fishermen or daily laborers in Galilee area.
Judea was in Ptolemy rule for some time and their official language was Coptic Greek and later seleucid's rule and their official language was old Greek.
The old testament books were written in koine Greek.
The seleucid rule was ended in Judea in the 2nd century BCE when the Maccabees took the control of Judea.
Hebrew was also known to very few people in Judea forget about Greek during the Jesus period.
There is no dispute about the authorship of the NT by the Greeks or Greek-knowing people.
Disciples and Jesus' relatives did not know the Greek language.
Luke and Paul or mark are exemption
The only claim of the Christians is that the illiterates wrote these books with god's inspiration which is nowadays, an illogical theory and not acceptable to the Christian scholars also.
"Yes, when we review the few unimpressive passages in the works of some early historians supposedly "proving" the existence of Jesus, we are bound to ask which Jesus is actually being referenced? Why do we continue assuming that there was but one public figure with this name? And since most ancient commenters did not use the name Jesus or anything like it when referring to this elusive icon of Christians, why do we assume him to be the character presented by Saint Paul, himself revealed as none other than mythmonger extraordinaire Josephus Flavius, the commissioned agent of the world's great tyrants ensconced in imperial Rome?"
~Michael Tsarion
Is that the guy who writes books about Tarot and the Illuminati?
crucifiction attempt on Jesus to remove laws will make his ppl lose blessing in mathew 21 :43 & jeremia 31 :36. pauls in acts 9:3 saw devil of luke 10 :18 went to Arabia, is lawless false prophet in mathew 24 :11 thought he's who'll correct him, comforter in John 1 :21 & 16:8, Prophet lawgiver like Musa, is Muhammad peace and blessings on him!
Jesus said God prefers Mercy not sacrifice acc. to mathew 9 & 12, this is also in isiah 1 & hoesa 6 to be sincere in repentance and do good deeds, even in ot it says the pagans used to take their offspring and sacrifice, killing an innocent is more unjust too... thats also not Mercy or forgiveness.
Jesus is only sent to his tribe, after mark 16 : 8 Jesus's 2nd appearance saying he's sent for the world is an admitted fabrication. isaiah 49 says Jesus will leave his tribe and return following the light of nations of isaiah 42, a new covenent, from the Arab Prophet from mt selah Medina, this is clearly Islam.
Abraham wasn't from juda, juda came like 2 centuries later, Ibrahim and Ismael were Muslims who built the Kaba, even Jacob imitates the hajj in genesis 28!
Josephus was an unbeliever, as you are, but you ignore the many mighty miracles revealed through Jesus of Nazareth, and many disciples then and through the ages upto today !!!
@@philipmawer3441 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦 it's not a matter of being an unbeliever, it's a matter of just trying to figure out what is real and what is not. Plain and simple.
EVERYTHING WORD FOR WORD from the words of Jesus Christ are in fact the doctrine created by Apostle Paul (Paulism/thessalonians, Ephesians etc).
They say "Read everything, listen to everybody but do not believe anything unless you can prove it with your own research." ~Bill Cooper. Been there done that. If you don't accept Paul's Jesus Christ and don't accept them as you would and savior you will be condemned and judged and live in torment and the everlasting lake of fire and brimstone. The whole HEAVEN AND HELL... yeah... What a miracle that would be. We live and we learn.
Consciensnest TV there is a World of difference between a believer and a person who does not, I can tell you that from 70 years of life's experience my friend. 💛
Who is the 19th century Paul that didn't like Ephesians?
watch the video on Paul by rabbi tovia singer instead
rabbi tovia is a sellout he is no authority to talk about paul
Paul never met Jesus or the original disciples alive. Paul wrote the New Testament and started his Church over 20 years later after Jesus’ death, it doesn’t guarantee that he followed 100% of Jesus’ teachings.
some of paul's letters date earleir than the gospels. paul hardly or does not mention the story of jesus. his letters haved leanings towards gnostism. does paul even refer to jesus as an actual human bieng?
Paul was born in 5-6 AD. His first letter 1Thess was written around 51 AD so around 20 years after the crucifixion.
I can't help wondering if Mr Wright has done anything approaching scholarly work since the mid-90s. His thoughts are as tedious and reactionary now as they were exciting and revolutionary 20 years ago. That's not a good look for a theologian, what with many authors still maintaining relevance hundreds of years after their deaths. Perhaps he should stop typing for a few days so he can try to catch up with some of the scholarship that has so thoroughly made Wright irrelevant
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@Abraham Mani go away with your satanic, pauline ramblings
I have already said this man is part of a group of career atheists in seminary faculties.
crucifiction attempt on Jesus to remove laws will make his ppl lose blessing in mathew 21 :43 & jeremia 31 :36. pauls in acts 9:3 saw devil of luke 10 :18 went to Arabia, is lawless false prophet in mathew 24 :11 thought he's who'll correct him, comforter in John 1 :21 & 16:8, Prophet lawgiver like Musa, is Muhammad peace and blessings on him!
Jesus said God prefers Mercy not sacrifice acc. to mathew 9 & 12, this is also in isiah 1 & hoesa 6 to be sincere in repentance and do good deeds, even in ot it says the pagans used to take their offspring and sacrifice, killing an innocent is more unjust too... thats also not Mercy or forgiveness.
Jesus is only sent to his tribe, after mark 16 : 8 Jesus's 2nd appearance saying he's sent for the world is an admitted fabrication. isaiah 49 says Jesus will leave his tribe and return following the light of nations of isaiah 42, a new covenent, from the Arab Prophet from mt selah Medina, this is clearly Islam.
Abraham wasn't from juda, juda came like 2 centuries later, Ibrahim and Ismael were Muslims who built the Kaba, even Jacob imitates the hajj in genesis 28!
You seem to be well acquainted with Wright's works. Fine. Now can you name the scholars you talked about who have made Wright irrelevant. So that I too could be educated, if it is possible.
Before Paul
- James the Just
- Peter in his days before the meeting with Paul; he had a very different theological position to Paul until that point
- Authors of the Book of Enoch who established the theological and doctrinal changes to the Messanic position in Judaism....
Many forerunners of Paul of Tarsus, student of 'Maharam' Gamliel
why did Paul go against Jesus all while claiming to be his apostle?
Please, provide an example supporting your claim.
It doesn't matter. Love, beginning with you is the core message.
The title of this video claims Paul came up with his own doctrines when he clearly states in 1 Cor.1:11 "Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ."
"I also am of Christ", proceeds to write things that go against Jesus's teachings...
@@xMoonlove Sha'ul proceeded to write things people twist "out of context" to be contrary to what Yeshua taught... If you take an honest look at the whole LETTERS that Paul wrote, you will see that he wasn't speaking contrary to the Law or the Prophets. He is confusing though until you break out the Lexicons and learn to read all of what he wrote in order to ascertain the meaning of the whole LETTER. Paul did not write these LETTERS thinking they would be later canonized as Scripture equal to the TaNaK... It should be understood as such.
“For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.”
- 1 Corinthians 1:11 (KJV)
Revelation 2:2 “I know your works, your labor, your patience, and that you cannot bear those who are evil. And you have tested those who say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars;
Apostles, as in plural. Huuummm
@@RoseSharon7777 Sadly so, but is as God warned us, Paul has 13 books in the bible, the devil knows he has to act most where the people loyal to God will be paying the most attention, if you sin youre already doing bad, but in the bible now thats where he can get people off guard, Paul has many blasphemies on his books, and i always thought it interesting how the christian world puts Paul on a pedestal and ive always found it suspicious, after i researched more Paul in fact did say Blasphemies and then i understood, im no expert on it fully, but some things were made clear to me as daylight
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@@RoseSharon7777 yes Apostles plural as in PAUL and Barnabas the false apostles who got turned away from Asia
the faithless built no civilizations & Islam is the only preserved faith so humanity as a whole testifies Islam is true. atheism has no virtue & tool under marxism tyranny. building least, maiming most... not a good record. atheism is pushed by dajjal's ppl, like how paul taught lawless man worship so his farisi money $ changers can pay rulers like lobbies do today, making christianity more lawless so the farisis can rule a destructured disunited ppl, thats why the so called new atheism should really be called neo con atheism.
Was/is Jesus Israel's Messiah?
Where is that acceptance documented?
crucifiction attempt on Jesus to remove laws will make his ppl lose blessing in mathew 21 :43 & jeremia 31 :36. pauls in acts 9:3 saw devil of luke 10 :18 went to Arabia, is lawless false prophet in mathew 24 :11 thought he's who'll correct him, comforter in John 1 :21 & 16:8, Prophet lawgiver like Musa, is Muhammad peace and blessings on him!
Jesus said God prefers Mercy not sacrifice acc. to mathew 9 & 12, this is also in isiah 1 & hoesa 6 to be sincere in repentance and do good deeds, even in ot it says the pagans used to take their offspring and sacrifice, killing an innocent is more unjust too... thats also not Mercy or forgiveness.
Jesus is only sent to his tribe, after mark 16 : 8 Jesus's 2nd appearance saying he's sent for the world is an admitted fabrication. isaiah 49 says Jesus will leave his tribe and return following the light of nations of isaiah 42, a new covenent, from the Arab Prophet from mt selah Medina, this is clearly Islam.
Abraham wasn't from juda, juda came like 2 centuries later, Ibrahim and Ismael were Muslims who built the Kaba, even Jacob imitates the hajj in genesis 28!
Commenting on the Title of this video. Paul never invented the Christian Theology. It is the Mainstream Christianity from the time of the Roman reign that misinterpreted Paul's teachings. Paul was a Jew a Pharisee and spoke, taught, practiced everything agreeing with the OT. Paul's writing was always hard to understand 2 Peter 3:15-16
2 Peter 3:15-16
"and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation,
as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has
written to you, as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these
things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught
and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also
the rest of the Scriptures."
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2 Peter wasn't even written by Peter, just some forgery by the Roman church as a weapon to support their ultimate, paul
Well done!
2 Peter is a probably forgery 👇🏾👇🏾👇🏾
As with all of the ‘catholic’ epistles, no one knows.
Scholars of the historical-critical study of the Bible disagree on who wrote 1 Peter.¹ Well, being academics, they disagree on pretty much everything-but when it comes to the authorship of the New Testament, some of the most widely agreed-upon facts are that
Whoever the author of 1 Peter was-the disciple or some unknown Christian writing in his name-he was not the author of 2 Peter. The styles and the command of the Greek language are completely different.
Regardless of who wrote 1 Peter, the author of 2 Peter was not the apostle.
This was known already in ancient times. The Church Father Eusebius accepted 1 Peter as being authentic, but even he didn’t buy 2 Peter. In the early 4th century CE, Didymus the Blind, student of Origen, wrote of 2 Peter that “We must therefore not be ignorant of the fact that the epistle at hand is forged…”
2 Peter was written long after the time when Jesus’s original disciples died. 2 Peter copies 75% of the epistle of Jude (19/25 verses), and the author refers to the Pauline epistles as “Scripture”. While the disciple Peter was alive, if he knew of any Pauline epistles at all, they’d have been considered mere letters-it was only as later Christians came to revere the early apostles that Paul’s letters (and the forgeries in his name) to be “Scripture”.
It’s also noteworthy that while early Christian writings, like the undisputed Pauline epistles, anticipate an imminent παρουσια parousia (“second coming”) (see e.g. 1 Thess 4:17), 2 Peter explicitly repudiates this expectation: 2 Peter chapter 3 is largely an attempt to explain away the disappointment of an imminent parousia.
This text cant be trusted..
It has been declared as 'fake and doubtful sermon" by highly respected scholars in the field..
So imo someone must have put this letter in the N.T to make paul a credible person..cause in the early christianity days people were questioning paul authenticity, as all the true real disciples of jesus were against paul...
So they needed to clear things and cover paul lies in order this 'idolatry pauline christianity' wins the lot..
But sadly nowdays people are smart and has figured out the devilish works the church fathers has done within the canon..
The trap in this lecture is that which the speaker calls "thinking theologically"
He also falsely hints at Jesus supporting this view while forgetting that Jesus came not but to fulfill the law.
@Julian Clarke Yes black from south Africa. Look at false bay renamed from Galley Sea. Jerusalem in the KALAHARI Desert hidden in a game reserve. All the biblical locations are in Africa that have been slightly modified to not draw attention with a Christian Church built on the locations. Getheme in Zimbabwe where they arrested him and taken to the Congo where Gagotha at a little town called Tishubu is where he was murdered by the Roman's Greeks and Hebrews hung on a tree. His name Msindisi meaning Savior Sin destroyer
The father SONINI NA NINI which the hebrews interpreted to I AM THAT I AM.
After sacking Jerusalem by Roman's and the scrolls being stolen the Roman Greeks and Hebrews plagiarized into the bible writing them as the children of Abraham inventing religion Catholic Muslim and Hebrew Judaism.
kJV 13:1 Abram Sara lot and all the belongings left Egypt and went South into Africa. Also Japrth and Ham genetic line they switched. Japeth is black Ham is white. Knotting ham Hampton's in Europe a small town is as Ham many Ham reference in Europe is found. This is only a little bit but dont throw out the bible just recognize the two parallel story's or two spirits. Red Sea Crossing virgin birth eating flesh drinking blood (communion) all not true and introduced by Pagan Catholic church
Everything that was said in this lecture.. How does it make it the word of god
what words come from what Created us?, the decision rests on the soul that hears it.
@@Trainwhrek nonsense
@@irshaadpangaker5085 a wicked person pays attention to deceitful lips, a liar gives heed to a destructive tongue.
people that accept deception from man as truth are already deceived themselves.
only our Creator can show an individual what is actually true. it is up to the soul to ask for truth.
but also i dont know anything honestly
John 17:3 The only True GOD is the father.
Should i believe what Jesus(pbuh) said or what paul or unknown authors said?
***John 17:3
3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
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Nowhere in this passage does it say that the only true God is the Father.
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Context-
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***John 17:1-5
1Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You,
2 as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him.
3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
4 I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do.
5 And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.
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Line 3 says that Jesus was sent by God.
What does this mean? Wasn't Moses and all the Prophets sent by God?
Well line 5 tells us that Jesus wasn't a mere man sent by God with a prophetic message. Read.
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"....with the glory which I had with You before the world was."
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So in line 5 Jesus lets us know that He was with God before creation.
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Then we head on over to the beginning of John.
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***John 1:1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 He was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
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Line 1 clearly states that Jesus is God. "... and the Word was God."
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What else does it say? He was in the beginning with God.
All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
So Jesus made everything.
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There are two existences in this life. Created and uncreated. Uncreated is God. Created is not God. Jesus having created everything, thus is not created.
Hence Jesus is God.
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And here are several instances in which Jesus says that He is God -
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***John 8:57-58 Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?”
Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”
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***John 6:45-47 "It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God.’ Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me. Not that anyone has seen the Father, except He who is from God; He has seen the Father. Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life."
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***John 14:8-9 Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.”
Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father."
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***John 20:26-29 And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, “Peace to you!” Then He said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.”
And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”
Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
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***Revelation 21:5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.”
And He said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son.
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***Genesis 32:28 And He said, “Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel; for you have struggled with God and with men, and have prevailed.”
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***Zechariah 12:10
“And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn.
@@johnmark6628 When he says "that they may know (you or thee) " who is Jesus talking to?
@@geo-yq4ed He's talking to the "Father" of course.
They know Him, and soon after they would know the Holy Spirit.
To know the Father, the Son, and the Spirit is to know God completely.
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It would be like us saying. I don't want you to just know me as you see me. But to know my heart. To know my soul.
To know me completely.
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Your body does the will of your soul. Your soul is above your body. Your soul is greater than your body.
Without your soul your body can do nothing.
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And yet your body still belongs to you. It is you.
@@johnmark6628 Ok good so we agree he is talking about the father. So when he says the only true God. What does that mean when he basically is saying that they may know you(the father) The only true GOD. what does he mean when he says only true GOD?
@@johnmark6628 Why is it Thomas was allowed to touch Jesus, but previously Jesus had not allowed others to do so because He said He had not yet arisen to the Father?
Such a topic is only meant to place an audience in the frame of mind to think one way..PAUL INVENTED CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY
He did what Christians believe now. Without Paul, Christians will be following the teachings of Jesus and will be avoiding to do sins and will be following the Ten Commandments. He rejected the Commandment,
@@thegodlogic3844 Without Paul the Bible would still be exactly the same. Paul doesn't say anything that the rest of the Bible doesn't already say.
It's an excellent argument.
@@thegodlogic3844 He did NOT reject The 10
@@thegodlogic3844 so does the Jesus of the gospels.
Drink my blood for life?
Sorry I'm not a vampire.
"We preach Christ crucified", wrote the Apostle Paul. -- Bible First Corinthians 1:23
we should also recognize this verse Acts 28:31 "for two whole years Paul stayed there in his own rented house and welcomed all who came to see him. 31 He proclaimed the Kingdom of God and taught about the Lord Jesus Christ-with all boldness and without hindrance!"
Its so Expected from a pagan & idolater person!
Not surprising!
Unity develops as Christians focus on thr Kingdom teaching of Messiah, Whereas Purify comes in a Christian and church when Christians focus on the holy life Of Messiah!
Vespasian was likely Paul in the New Testament since it says in Titus 1:4 that Titus was one of the younger men whom Paul discipled and described as his 'son in the faith that we share'. Paul's character was taken from Saul from the Old Testament.
People in every culture share names. The conspiracy you just came up with is of the worse of the worse.
@@Calvinist-Amil-Preterist No. I read about this in a book on Amazon just recently. These are facts supported by Joesphus writings. He was a Flavian because of it.
@@author_veronicaj lol. Paul was martyr during the reign of Nero. Vespasian was the 4th emperor after Nero. At the same time Vespasian was a General under Nero at one point. This is straight up lies.
@@Calvinist-Amil-Preterist It sounds like you need to hear modern truths about the so-called New Testament, which I call the Anti-Semitism Testamnet. Listen to it on youtube @ Caesar's Messiah.
@@Calvinist-Amil-Preterist Yeah and this is when the Jews were kill for anti-semitism. Vespasian aand his son Titus lead the wars in the attacks on the Jews. Hey did you go to the channel to hear about this what I am saying.
Sounds like it sounds like everybody's got it figured out don't you don't they
His title suggests something sinister yet his narrative hails Paul, hmmmm, what am I missing???
click bait and deceptive apologetics
Invention is not necessarily sinister. Plenty of great inventions.
@Mohammed Jalloh, You’re the smart Muslim on here. Other Muslims don’t get it that the title was more like a click bait to get your attention. Lots of the Muslims didn’t even watch or understand what NT Wright was trying to say. They are just running with the title 🤦🏻♂️
All disciples preached the Goodnews which is Christ birth, death and resurrection. This is the backbone of Christianity and the church
Obviously it could be seen that Pauls theology steered the Christian movement however Christianity isn’t based solely on that theology. Infact, Paul was the last apostle to join the party 🤦🏻♂️
All other disciples were well versed with the physical knowledge of Jesus as they walked and lived with him unlike Paul
6:00 "the new age" was one willing to accept Rome's rule. Now WHY would Paul's LATER writtings, and then also the Gospels have advocated for that? Maybe something to do with the Flavians and Josephus??
My humble request to all please read these books.
1. Cambridge History of Christianity Vol.1.
2. Paul and Jesus by James Tabor
3. Jesus Dynasty by James Tabor.
4. How Jesus became Christian by Barrie Wilson
5. James the brother of Jesus by Jeffrey butz
6. How Jesus became God by Bart Ehrman
7. Unity and diversity in the new testament by James Dunn.
How would stories by humans override God's word?
Just asking.
Every time people try to find excuses for not obeying God's commandments, they quoted Paul. That will tell you something isn't right
Im assuming u don't obey gods commandments: jesus commands u to do away with all u own n give to the poor. Leave all your possessions n follow him. I'm assuming u typed ur comment on an electronic devise u own...so why haven't u given that possession up? Jesus didn't stutter
@@paintbrush3554 a voice in the dessert chan sold everthing when on the road, stays with belivers all as commanded, and they post on utube.
@@paintbrush3554 no, he doesn’t
God is a human Delusion, it gives them a sense of wellbeing and belonging
@@paintbrush3554 Fool, Jesus never said that in real life. The "Gospels" were NOT first hand account, & much has been added & taken away. Scholars know the New Testament is unreliable source of information.
Paul changed the religion of original Christianity from Unity God to Trinity. He invented the Original Sin, Atonement, Resurrection, etc. He hated the Jews and used to persecute them. He claimed to have "met" Jesus in a vision before he preached. He wanted to please the crowds by preaching to the Gentiles. Jesus was only for the Jews. Period!!!
Paul changed original Christianity from unity to Trinity. Where? How?
Invented the original sin, atonement, ressurection. Naive and ignorant of the bible.
Hated the Jews and persecuted them. lol these are getting dumber as we go. He was a Jew who persecuted Christians.
"Met" Jesus in a vision. Correct he was on his way to persecute Christians in Damascus.
Wanted to please the crowds by preaching to the Gentiles? Ha? He was a learned Pharisee who had a good reputation and 'career' within the Jewish community, why would he give that up to be persecuted and run out of towns and jailed?
Jesus was only for the Jews. Period!! You have shown your ignorance all throughout your comment. Period!!!
+energie00 If he was such a learned pharisee, how come most of the torah scriptures he quoted are out of original contexts. He was the first antichrist and christianity and catholicism was founded upon this new teaching. His letters are nothing but the spouting of a demented and wicked deceiver, not God's word like we are forced to believe in we want to believe in the Saviour..
+Sandy Eyles
Please don't throw broad accusations without making reference to credible sources otherwise you are merly giving me your opinion and counts for nil. If you bothered to study the bible you see Paul going to Jeruslam and meeting Peter and James to ensure his teachings have not been in vain. They give him their hand of fellowship. In other words we agree keep up the good work.
St Ignatious and Clements both students of Peter and john write about St. Paul and declare in their writings that his writings were scripture and that he was on par with both disciples.
So I afraid these baseless accusations of yours are very hollow and without substance.
+energie00 Firstly, these are not my views but from the Christian scholars. Paul was not even one of the disciples of Jesus, so how can you trust him? He hijacked Christianity from Mithraism. infiltrated the ideas into the former. He never even met Jesus personally and he was not endorsed to preach to the world. Jesus was only for the Jews. Period. Case closed! thank you!!!
Reading here convinces that "enemies of the cross of Christ" Paul mentions are with us still.
I have divorced Greek, Roman Latin and British English theology and embracing Bibliology.
My favorite suffering Psalm is Psalm 69 which Paul read in the bath houses of Ephesus
Paul said Oh what a wrtched evil man of sin am i. Lord when shall you releve me from this Bondage of leather chains Sin. i hate it but love it and love to hate it wile i hate to love it. Your sin is Dead i killed it washed it away in the New Law covenant . but now sin ? GOD FORBID. We are not meant for sin and live accordingly.
@@trafficjon400 Excellent quote.
@@sebolddaniel Thanks ". Romans chapter 2 verse 6-12 explains it some in other words.