I sure wish they would put a manual behind these. I prefer manual. I'm not here to debate transmission's. You won't change my mind. Please keep your brother on more. He brings great insight to the already great content. I also drive a class 8 truck for a living. I am 50 I got my CDL at 18. I learned to drive a White/GMC with a 250 Cummins and a nine speed cabover at 13. I still love to row gears.
Lol....i.agree myself....learned my first split shift at 13...miss manuals in the big boys i now drive...all of my boys had to learn in a manual..I love manuals so no debate here
I would think one of the first things you’d notice is the difference in ride quality between GM and Ford. The Ford beats the crap out of you. The GM is silky smooth.
Its true the Ford SD is stiff as hell. There is a price to be paid for having a real true straight axle up front. Thats what we do at Ford. Build absurdly strong components just so we can tell you they are for sure stronger than what everyone else has. Just to need a chiropractor
Heavy duty trucks are made to haul. Put 1500 lbs or more on the ford it smoothes out. If your driving a empty hd truck around town you bought the wrong truck.
Nice to hear a Ford guys take. I think the gear indicator gets a little blown out of proportion though. I agree they should just go ahead and offer that option but as far as being necessary I don’t think it really is. It’s an automatic so it’s going to downshift on grades as much as the computer will allow based on your speed and rpm. And then like he said you can always just go into manual mode and downshift and it will give you the lowest gear possible based off rpm and speed. So I agree they should just quit being stubborn and offer it but I don’t think it’s all that big of a deal.
I have a Ford and I like having the gear indicator and switching to a vehicle that does not have the gear indicator would be very noticeable to me. I would miss it, not a huge deal though. I agree with the driver its a 3 out of 10.
@@louishendricks-tv1sx it’s nice to know what gear you’re in but I just can’t see how it’s necessary. It’s still an automatic transmission that’s only going to shift down or up based off engine speed and mph. So you can be going 80 mph and try and downshift to 1st with the manual selector and the truck won’t allow that happen. It will only go down in gears as far as it can based on your speed and rpm.
Super interesting! I see a lot of guys daily driving HD trucks these days. It's probably trivial but ride and comfort are important when spending time in a vehicle every day. Which is better? The greenhouse in the Ford is superior IMO. I much prefer the view out of the Ford. The Chevy hood looks too high from the driver's seat and blocks forward view.
Ram with the 6.4 Hemi & the 8 speed shows the gear if you are in gear limit mode, which I always am (with it "limited" to all 8 gears normally) since it also disables the awful MDS
One of the selling points for why I chose the GMC over the Chevy was the front end. Regarding not showing the gear you are in, the gear shows up when you go to manual. The instrumentation panel is basically a computer screen. I don't see why GM couldn't just push a firmware upgrade to the trucks to show it.
I prefer the solid front axle on the ford. Yes it’s a harsher ride. I prefer it’s strength. Have had Ford trucks for 25 plus years, never had a issue with comfort. Driven Chevys and Rams at work. Still prefer my Fords.
I almost got blown off the edge of the feeder road on I-10 in W Houston in my F350 Godzilla. Some jackleg cut me off to cut in to make the I-10 ramp. He was initially behind me then passed me right side then realized how close the entrance ramp was and he cut in. Bad bad bad driving. My maneuver was to the left and I hit a rounded curb left front tire and bounced off and back into my lane. If I had not done that the jackleg would have certainly taken my right front quarter panel nose with him. I was 3/4 mile to my hotel. I got out and inspected the truck underbody. Nothing broken. No damage. Nothing bent. Slept that night and hoped upon waking that my tire would be ok and not off the bead. All was well. I got up on the highway and slowly rolled up in speed to test steering and drift. Zero issues. I came away from that hard “smack” on that curb at 60mph loving the Ford F350 front end. It is very stiff. I like to tell people you don’t drink much coffee in my truck on side roads. Nor do you text. The truck takes your attention because it is a real truck and you actually have to drive it.
Tire type and air pressure would certainly have some bearing on the ride, having said that both these trucks would come with load range E tires I imagine, sizing would be the other factor as per side wall height as low profile tires will typically give a stiffer ride over a taller side wall. Hop into a half ton and if they are inflated for an empty truck and if they are "passenger vehicle tires", that makes quite a difference to soaking up those little bumps/cracks in the road. Put another way, the tires and inflation can give good or bad impressions of a vehicle without realizing its not the vehicles fault.
True, i keep both the ford and the new chevy at 70 psi all the way around. Dealers uses to keep the tires lower back in the 90s...then before delivery air them up to the manufacter suggested. To help with ride.
@@automotiveinquiries9673 Good to know you matched the air pressure truck for truck, gives the fair picture of the truck tests. Mind you if one was driving these trucks almost empty most of the time long term then I know personally I would lower them down ... and of course on would come the tire minder unless they were reprogrammed and hopefully they can be.
I avoid GMCs and Chevy for one reason, Visibility. I don't know why the GM engineer's totally left out the concept of driver visibility for safety. Trucks and cars, our Camaro was even like driving a box looking through a key hole.
I prefer to look over the hood in the Ford rather than into the backside of the hood in the Chev, I find the visibility comfort and leg room superior in the Ford.
I own a 2021 GMC HD with the 6.6 gas and the old 6L90. I had heard you mention that the 7.3 is more powerful than the 6.6 but is it actually a large noticeable difference or is it marginal?
I was test driving a few of these and I thought they had the 2022 super duty tune pretty well. Maybe I'm not as sensitive to it as some. These are heavy duty and they have heavy duty axles. No comparison between solid axle and IFS. Solid axle is stronger, more durable and articulates way better in an off-road vehicle. Another advantage is that it will be much easier and cheaper to lift a solid axle once you reach a certain height because of the angles. This isn't a midsize or even a half ton truck, it's a heavy duty truck and that's why it is built that way. I'll go with strength, durability and capability over slight increase in comfort.
@Tom-ds5uk the pro truck driver would pick the ford all day, he's ford through and through. I personally like the chevy a little better overall, even over the 2024 I have on the channel.
2:32 my man stop looping your thumbs around that steering wheel. One of the first things they tell you in performance driving school is do not loop your fingers around the wheel. If that air bag goes off it will literally separate your thumb from your hand at the joint.
Lmao I'm a truck driver too and see more junk fords broke down on the side of the road then any truck out there ford do ok the first 10 miles then they are junk lol
I've never understood hardcore brand loyalists. Why not be objective, forcing all brands to be better? Nah, it's much better to pick based on a badge.. Make sure you get one of the really classy "guy pissing on the brand you don't like" stickers for the back window to let everyone know what a dedicated fan you are.. 😂
All that displacement is good but 80% of a liter larger and the Godzilla produces marginally more power. It is what it is. The final drive gearing has more to do with it feeling quicker than the actual power advantage. Both are pretty cool. But I am a GM fan and it sounds like you are a Ford fan… so we know which one we will defend to the end lol
@@williamabaker12exactly…it’s a weird thing to me. These grown a$$ men acting like these manufacturers are going to give them a free truck for hyping them up. I’m going to drive them all and buy what I like the best. Getting in a pissing match defending some company who doesn’t know you exist is a weird way to go about life.
That ford 10spd is junk. Never would I own another one. My Allison diesel trans is smooth as butter. Can’t speak for the gasser Allison but if it’s the same then I’m sure it’s smooth. My ford 250 tremor with Godzilla had lifter failure at 34k and trans was finicky.
@@freedomisntfree_44so? How many issues do you hear about out of the Allison 10 vs the ford 10? No comparison. Allison has proved to be the better trans.
@@07smoker Allison just sucks really. Seen them weld the insides together and once you do a little research you’ll it’s built by gm with and Allison badge. It’s not build in Indianapolis by Allison. Just another gm grenade.
@@tylerking27 take your own advice. The ten speed in the 3/4 and 1 tons is not a joint venture, different parts on the inside, gear ratios aren’t even the same. Only the half tons are the joint venture. Whether it’s called Allison or not, it’s proven to have less problems than the ford. I don’t care what video shows the ford internals to be better, they are not performing that way.
I'll be using sea light, I'll have a video and link on it tomorrow a.m. they are inexpensive, and I've had great luck. There is one other brand I've used and they've also been great, BRISHINE...on the zon...
I sure wish they would put a manual behind these. I prefer manual. I'm not here to debate transmission's. You won't change my mind. Please keep your brother on more. He brings great insight to the already great content. I also drive a class 8 truck for a living. I am 50 I got my CDL at 18. I learned to drive a White/GMC with a 250 Cummins and a nine speed cabover at 13. I still love to row gears.
Lol....i.agree myself....learned my first split shift at 13...miss manuals in the big boys i now drive...all of my boys had to learn in a manual..I love manuals so no debate here
I would think one of the first things you’d notice is the difference in ride quality between GM and Ford. The Ford beats the crap out of you. The GM is silky smooth.
My 20 yo DMAX rides like a caddy 👍
Its true the Ford SD is stiff as hell. There is a price to be paid for having a real true straight axle up front. Thats what we do at Ford. Build absurdly strong components just so we can tell you they are for sure stronger than what everyone else has. Just to need a chiropractor
Well, one is made for work and towing, the other for Urban Cowboys!🤣👍
Heavy duty trucks are made to haul. Put 1500 lbs or more on the ford it smoothes out. If your driving a empty hd truck around town you bought the wrong truck.
@@rockie307 some people park their campers then drive their trucks unloaded. Cope
Nice to hear a Ford guys take.
I think the gear indicator gets a little blown out of proportion though. I agree they should just go ahead and offer that option but as far as being necessary I don’t think it really is. It’s an automatic so it’s going to downshift on grades as much as the computer will allow based on your speed and rpm. And then like he said you can always just go into manual mode and downshift and it will give you the lowest gear possible based off rpm and speed.
So I agree they should just quit being stubborn and offer it but I don’t think it’s all that big of a deal.
I have a Ford and I like having the gear indicator and switching to a vehicle that does not have the gear indicator would be very noticeable to me. I would miss it, not a huge deal though. I agree with the driver its a 3 out of 10.
No, I use the gear indicator and it's necessary.
@@louishendricks-tv1sx it’s nice to know what gear you’re in but I just can’t see how it’s necessary. It’s still an automatic transmission that’s only going to shift down or up based off engine speed and mph.
So you can be going 80 mph and try and downshift to 1st with the manual selector and the truck won’t allow that happen. It will only go down in gears as far as it can based on your speed and rpm.
@@louishendricks-tv1sx For what?
Super interesting! I see a lot of guys daily driving HD trucks these days. It's probably trivial but ride and comfort are important when spending time in a vehicle every day. Which is better?
The greenhouse in the Ford is superior IMO. I much prefer the view out of the Ford. The Chevy hood looks too high from the driver's seat and blocks forward view.
Can’t wait to see a towing video.
Ram with the 6.4 Hemi & the 8 speed shows the gear if you are in gear limit mode, which I always am (with it "limited" to all 8 gears normally) since it also disables the awful MDS
That's good to know, especially if that disables the most. Thanks for posting and watching.
I know right we're you guys are driving lol that's Riverdale rd I'm born and raised right there. Good vid
One of the selling points for why I chose the GMC over the Chevy was the front end. Regarding not showing the gear you are in, the gear shows up when you go to manual. The instrumentation panel is basically a computer screen. I don't see why GM couldn't just push a firmware upgrade to the trucks to show it.
I prefer the solid front axle on the ford. Yes it’s a harsher ride. I prefer it’s strength. Have had Ford trucks for 25 plus years, never had a issue with comfort. Driven Chevys and Rams at work. Still prefer my Fords.
I almost got blown off the edge of the feeder road on I-10 in W Houston in my F350 Godzilla. Some jackleg cut me off to cut in to make the I-10 ramp. He was initially behind me then passed me right side then realized how close the entrance ramp was and he cut in. Bad bad bad driving.
My maneuver was to the left and I hit a rounded curb left front tire and bounced off and back into my lane. If I had not done that the jackleg would have certainly taken my right front quarter panel nose with him.
I was 3/4 mile to my hotel. I got out and inspected the truck underbody. Nothing broken. No damage. Nothing bent. Slept that night and hoped upon waking that my tire would be ok and not off the bead. All was well. I got up on the highway and slowly rolled up in speed to test steering and drift. Zero issues.
I came away from that hard “smack” on that curb at 60mph loving the Ford F350 front end. It is very stiff. I like to tell people you don’t drink much coffee in my truck on side roads. Nor do you text. The truck takes your attention because it is a real truck and you actually have to drive it.
Yeah, it's a heavy duty truck and it's got a heavy duty axle. So much stronger and durable than an IFS
that's thinking with your heart and not your head or your ass. The Chevrolet is SUPERIOR to that Fix or repair daily!
@@Marco-fi6gv Durable for what, a crappy ride? The IFS in the GM Trucks are plenty strong to handle what ever you throw at them. Your LOSS
Tire type and air pressure would certainly have some bearing on the ride, having said that both these trucks would come with load range E tires I imagine, sizing would be the other factor as per side wall height as low profile tires will typically give a stiffer ride over a taller side wall. Hop into a half ton and if they are inflated for an empty truck and if they are "passenger vehicle tires", that makes quite a difference to soaking up those little bumps/cracks in the road. Put another way, the tires and inflation can give good or bad impressions of a vehicle without realizing its not the vehicles fault.
True, i keep both the ford and the new chevy at 70 psi all the way around. Dealers uses to keep the tires lower back in the 90s...then before delivery air them up to the manufacter suggested. To help with ride.
@@automotiveinquiries9673 Good to know you matched the air pressure truck for truck, gives the fair picture of the truck tests. Mind you if one was driving these trucks almost empty most of the time long term then I know personally I would lower them down ... and of course on would come the tire minder unless they were reprogrammed and hopefully they can be.
@@automotiveinquiries9673 snow plowing with these trucks. Cold 42 warm just under 50. Put 70 in and you are stuck.
Great stuff!!
I avoid GMCs and Chevy for one reason, Visibility. I don't know why the GM engineer's totally left out the concept of driver visibility for safety. Trucks and cars, our Camaro was even like driving a box looking through a key hole.
and that's why you drive a inferior truck
@@bobhirdes6725 and he is alive..
Chevy needs to bring back modern DI the 8.1L ls based truck engine behind this10 speed !!!!!
Riverdale Rd!!! My hood !! Nice
What axle gears in the ford? This is often overlooked. Seems like a lot of these 7.3s are coming with 4.30s which is a big advantage over gms 3.73.
Don't know if it is, but Gm is free to put those in their trucks too
I have 4.30 in my 22 F350 Godzilla
@@brucesowards5734And?
I prefer to look over the hood in the Ford rather than into the backside of the hood in the Chev, I find the visibility comfort and leg room superior in the Ford.
I'll never ever go back to Ford, i love my 2 year old Chevy !
I own a 2021 GMC HD with the 6.6 gas and the old 6L90. I had heard you mention that the 7.3 is more powerful than the 6.6 but is it actually a large noticeable difference or is it marginal?
in everyday driving, it isn't that noticeable with the new 10 spd allison, the 6.6 with the 6spd, I feel the 7.3 is more zippier
If you wanna see a Chiropractor buy an f150 or super duty. My 2024 LTZ crew Cab Silverado is light years ahead of the way my super duty rode
City boy truck
Some of us haul and tow on a farm for a living and gm trucks don’t like work. F150 rides good so you’re full of 💩
@@jeffparker8268 👍
I was test driving a few of these and I thought they had the 2022 super duty tune pretty well. Maybe I'm not as sensitive to it as some. These are heavy duty and they have heavy duty axles. No comparison between solid axle and IFS. Solid axle is stronger, more durable and articulates way better in an off-road vehicle. Another advantage is that it will be much easier and cheaper to lift a solid axle once you reach a certain height because of the angles. This isn't a midsize or even a half ton truck, it's a heavy duty truck and that's why it is built that way. I'll go with strength, durability and capability over slight increase in comfort.
@@jeffparker8268 and tough enough to handle anything your throw at it.
Which one would you pick ? 6.6 vs 7.3
@Tom-ds5uk the pro truck driver would pick the ford all day, he's ford through and through. I personally like the chevy a little better overall, even over the 2024 I have on the channel.
tell us what kind of mpg's you been seeing with this chevy....
Can one person tell my why they care what gear its in? I have the 6.6 10 speed and don't see why it matters.
Put it in manual mode?!?
2:32 my man stop looping your thumbs around that steering wheel. One of the first things they tell you in performance driving school is do not loop your fingers around the wheel. If that air bag goes off it will literally separate your thumb from your hand at the joint.
my 2013 F150 shows me what gear I'm in. Come on Chevy bwhahahahaha
Chebbie has nothing for the 7.3 quit wasting our time
Lmao I'm a truck driver too and see more junk fords broke down on the side of the road then any truck out there ford do ok the first 10 miles then they are junk lol
I've never understood hardcore brand loyalists. Why not be objective, forcing all brands to be better?
Nah, it's much better to pick based on a badge.. Make sure you get one of the really classy "guy pissing on the brand you don't like" stickers for the back window to let everyone know what a dedicated fan you are.. 😂
All that displacement is good but 80% of a liter larger and the Godzilla produces marginally more power. It is what it is. The final drive gearing has more to do with it feeling quicker than the actual power advantage. Both are pretty cool. But I am a GM fan and it sounds like you are a Ford fan… so we know which one we will defend to the end lol
@@williamabaker12exactly…it’s a weird thing to me. These grown a$$ men acting like these manufacturers are going to give them a free truck for hyping them up. I’m going to drive them all and buy what I like the best. Getting in a pissing match defending some company who doesn’t know you exist is a weird way to go about life.
@@SoonerMikeD 💯
That ford 10spd is junk. Never would I own another one. My Allison diesel trans is smooth as butter. Can’t speak for the gasser Allison but if it’s the same then I’m sure it’s smooth. My ford 250 tremor with Godzilla had lifter failure at 34k and trans was finicky.
I call bs. Even if so it ain’t got nothing on gm lifter failure. And that Allison is just a badge 😂 research a little 👍
@@freedomisntfree_44so? How many issues do you hear about out of the Allison 10 vs the ford 10? No comparison. Allison has proved to be the better trans.
@@07smoker whatever you say 🤡👍 just a badge
@@07smoker Allison just sucks really. Seen them weld the insides together and once you do a little research you’ll it’s built by gm with and Allison badge. It’s not build in Indianapolis by Allison. Just another gm grenade.
@@tylerking27 take your own advice. The ten speed in the 3/4 and 1 tons is not a joint venture, different parts on the inside, gear ratios aren’t even the same. Only the half tons are the joint venture.
Whether it’s called Allison or not, it’s proven to have less problems than the ford. I don’t care what video shows the ford internals to be better, they are not performing that way.
You mentioned changing the Chevy headlights to led in on other video. What brand would you recommend?
I'll be using sea light, I'll have a video and link on it tomorrow a.m. they are inexpensive, and I've had great luck. There is one other brand I've used and they've also been great, BRISHINE...on the zon...