Hey family, I enjoy these discussions immensely as they spur us on to truly consider and understand the great faith that we have. With that being said, please remember the principle of Deut. 29:29 which says, "The secret things of the Lord belong to the Lord." There are just certain things we will NOT understand until we get to heaven. So for us to assume we, in our FINITE minds, could understand an INFINITE God is certainly out of the question. We accept what the word of God says and don't discount it just because it may be beyond our ability to understand. Much love,
THE BEAT by Allen Parr someone said to me one time when I tried to explain the trinity that the Old Testament does not mention a triune God at all? What do you think?
Teaching Kingdom Truth NYC first off thank you for taking the time to watch my video and share your thoughts. I watched most of your video but did not get a chance to finish watching it. Here is my perspective. I think you’re trying to approach God from more of a logic or reason perspective. And anything that doesn’t make logical sense to you, you throw out. Because you cannot wrap your mind around how God could be both three and one, you say that the Trinity is not biblical. But let me ask you this. Can you fully comprehend and understand how Jesus can be both fully man and fully God? As God challenged Job, can you explain how the planets were formed and how gravity works? So you would agree that there are many things about God that we will not be able to comprehend in our finite minds. The Trinity is one of those things. Can you fully explain how predestination and man’s free will also harmonize? The answer to these questions is obviously no. But we would agree that the Bible teaches both free will and predestination. The Bible clearly teaches that God exists in three persons. And there is ample proof in the Bible that each person is God. There is also ample proof that there is only one God and that we do not believe in many gods. So I think once you approach God from more of a faith perspective rather than trying to figure everything out, I think you’ll be on the right track. Thank you buddy,
datchet11 there as signs of it such as in genesis when God said let “us” make man I. “Our” image. How can we explain that? Why did he not say let me make man in my own image? Also there is pre-incarnate appearances of Jesus Christ in the OT. Finally John 1:1 confirms that Jesus existed eternally as well.
Nat Genesis Jesus is now the God and Father of all to the church which is his body the fulness of him that fills all in all' Ephesians 1:22-23. 1st Corinthians 15:28
Hear o Israel the LORD our God is one LORD' is part of the first of the commandments in the law Matthew 22:35-36-37, Mark 12:29-30 'love God with all your heart and with all your mind and with all your soul and with all your strength' and the second is like namely this love your neighbor as yourself' Matthew 22: 38-40. To have eternal life is to keep the second summary of the law 'love your neighbor as yourself' Matthew 19:15-19. The New Testament law, commandment is believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another as he gave commandment' 1st John 3:22-23.
I know it's like laying out a formula for a rafter for a house run and rise equals hypotenuse or rafter length...the angle... of the pitch or slope... It's this formula that's related to the trinity doctrine
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Elohim Bible verse Jesus said it Himself: "My Father is greater than I" (John 14:28). The word "God" here is Elohim. It says, "The LORD our Elohim is one LORD." Ta plural noun ." Elohim is the plural of both El and Eloah.
@@theodoreritola7641 You keep looking for something material to compare with God. God cannot be compared to anything. God the creator is the most high as Psalm 83:18 says. That’s where Asaph is describing Jehovah as the most high so Jehovah is and always will be the most high. There is no way around that.
God isn't weak, dependent or ignorant as Jesus was, also God doesn't need to pray to God and beg him for help like Jesus did. Don't worship a brown middle-eastern man that never asked to be worshipped or EVER said "I am God"
@@jimmypaiva5991 2 - 4 - 24 #1 The Letter "" J "" was NOT USED prior to the 13th century it was ADDED to the English language because MOST people don't speak Hebrew #2 You will NOT find the Letter "" J "" in ANY GREEK manuscript or in the Dead Sea Scrolls #3 I have no problem using the words Jehovah or Jesus But to say that EMPHATICALLY the name of God is Jehovah is Jehovah's Witnesses rhetoric #4 The GODHEAD is explained in the New Testament as ( Three distinct persons ALL the SAME ONE TRUE GOD ) from eternity past to eternity future 1st Corinthians 12 : 4 - 6 The Holy Spirit is the SAME ONE TRUE GOD ( CHARISMATA ) Jesus Christ is the SAME ONE TRUE GOD ( DIAKONIA ) The Father is the SAME ONE TRUE GOD ( ENERGEMATA ) ( Three distinct persons ALL the SAME ONE TRUE GOD ) from eternity past to eternity future
I dont think Allen understands who Jesus was at all. It is one thing to look upon Jesus (quite rightly) as an object of worship, a god if you like, but to bestow upon Him a status equal to that of The Father is totally against the teaching of the Bible. I am not suggesting that Jesus was merely a man, or an Angel of God. He was uniquely the Son of God. In the Bible He is never referred to as God the Son. This is a church title for Him. We read in John 1- 'we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father...' Jesus said in John 14- 'My Father is greater than I'. The standard trinitarian response to this is usually along the lines- 'while He was on earth, He was subject to the Father', yet the same trinitarians quote John 10:30- 'I and My Father are one' as proof of His equality with the Father!!! Its not difficult to see the contradiction here. In John 10, Jesus is clearly talking about being one in purpose and mind with His Father. The context is the salvation of the sheep and a careful reading of this passage shows that Jesus was not claiming any kind of equal status with the Father. This is supported elsewhere in Johns gospel (7:16-18; 12:49,50; 8:28,42; 13:16; etc). A careful and humble consideration of these words of Jesus will leave us with no doubt about Him being subservient to His Father. It is clear that Jesus is not stating this relationship with His Father as applying for just a part of His life. The Apostle Paul clearly understood this subservient aspect of The Lords relationship with His Father and taught it to the Gentiles (I Corinthians 8:6; 11:3; 15:24-28; I Timothy 2:5; Ephesians 4:6; 5:20; etc). Note also the way in which Paul begins most of his Letters (as does Peter and John)- 'Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ'. How is it possible to read all the references above and conclude that Jesus was in any way equal to The Father. The writer to the Hebrews (chpt 1) gives clarity to the elevated position of Jesus when He says that 'God has spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things ...Jesus having become so much better than the Angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. For to which of the Angels did He ever say: You are My Son, Today I have begotten You? ...let all the Angels of God worship Him ...Your throne O God is for ever and ever'. It is clear that this elevated status is given to Jesus from His Father, but it is also clear, that Jesus has not been given a position equal to His Father. It goes on to say- 'You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; therefore God, YOUR GOD, has anointed You with the oil of gladness more than your companions'. The doctrine of the Trinity stands on the premise of the equality of The Father and The Son. THIS DOCTRINE IS CLEARLY FALSE, even though it is believed by the vast majority of christians. To this I would say, look to the words of Jesus in the Gospel of Matthew (7:13-15). Jesus Christ was The Son of God and is the Mediator of Gods Covenant of Peace to all who would believe in Him.
@@dave6148 I don't think that you have the Spirit of Christ unfortunately........ How GOD redeemed HIS Church? Through HIS Blood - Acts 20:28............. Also Isaiah 9:6, Zechariah 12:10, Revelation 1:7-18.......................... Titus 2:13 waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ If you don't believe in JESUS as LORD GOD you are NOT of HIS sheep! May the Son of God (the WORD/the MEMRA) reveal HIS DIVINITY to you in HIS Name (YHWH YESHUA), AMEN! Jesus IS IN the O.T. as the MEMRA (the WORD)! In the O.T. God HIMSELF appear in VISIBLE Form/s (in HIS MEMRA/the SON and in the Shekinah of His MEMRA/the Spirit of Christ) Believe on the LORD (YHWH) Jesus Christ and you and your household will be saved. - Acts 16:31 Elohim bless you and your family!
@@НатанаилСталев-ф2р if you care to read all the Bible passages that I referred to, you will see that Jesus is most definitely not co-equal to The Father - so where does that leave the false doctrine of the trinity? Like the equally corrupted doctrine of the Immortal Soul, this is a paganised invention of the Catholic church, unfortunately accepted blindly by its daughters. Read those passages together- THEN tell me where you think I've got it wrong
@@dave6148 The FIRST Christians are from the FIRST century (Acts 11), NOT from the 4 century!!!! The FIRST Christians (including the 12 Disciples of the Lord Himslef - YESHUA) WORSHIP the Son of God, they all know very well that the Son of God is the ALMIGHTY LORD coming down from the Heaven............. You follow religion, BUT the TRUE followers of CHRIST (YHWH) are NEW CREATIONS! Jesus is God whether i, you or anyone believes or not, PERIOD!!! Every knee will bow before YHWH JESUS (YHWH is El Shaddai - Exodus 6:3) - Isaiah 45:23/Philippians 2:10 May LORD YHWH YESHUA have mercy on your soul! The HOLY Trinity, the Eternal Security and the Rapture are BIBLICAL, HalleluYAH (Praise JESUS)! 1 Cor. 12:3 Because of this, I make known unto you that there is no man, who by The Rukha d'Alaha {The Spirit of God}, will speak and say that Eshu {Yeshua} is accursed, and also no man is able to say that MarYa {The Lord-YHWH} is Eshu {Yeshua}, except by The Rukha d’Qudsha {The Spirit of Holiness/The Holy Spirit}. Shalom!
STEPHEN!!!!!! He experienced the Trinity. “Now when they heard these things they were enraged, and they ground their teeth at him. But he, full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. And he said, "Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God."” Acts 7:54-56 ESV He saw the Father and Son side by side. While the Holy Spirit filled him. This verse is distinct in identifying the Trinity at work.
Jarel Washington what is a spirit by Bible definition? Because the definition has to match other scripture....line upon line. For instance when Jesus breathed on his disciples in John 20:22 and said receive ye the holy ghost what was happening? You see scripture such as this doesn't support a Trinity
So you see a 3 in one God here? Why is Jesus or h/s never seen on a "throne". Why is the H/s never seen in a heavenly vision in all the bible.? Your desire to stay in your comfort Zone is showing. Read my lengthy treatise above and think again.
Jarel Washington No because what he saw was only God and Jesus. The Holy Spirit was never there as some claim, for he, Stephen had seen 2 persons just as Zechariah had seen 2 copper mountains, or the very fact John saw 2 names.
Yep. I would add God, the "essence" of God, the part that has no "person" features, only "being" features. That one is omnipresence, while God as Father is Above, as Son is with us, as Holy Spirit is in us, but God as "only" God is everywhere.
We don’t have to understand it?????? Really!!!?? So what does it mean when Jesus said in Matthew 22:37 And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind."
"GOD GIVES MESSAGE TO CHRISTIANS:" *Most certainly they committed blasphemy, who said, "God is one of the three": whereas there is no deity other than the One Deity. And if these people do not desist from uttering such words, a painful chastisement shall be inflicted on all those from among them who have been guilty of blasphemy. Will they not, then, turn to Allah and ask His pardon?* *Allah is very Forgiving and Compassionate.* Qur’an Chep 5 [73-74] [Jesus said], *“And indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.”* Qur’an 19:36 *Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord.* (Mark 12:29) "Jesus(PBUH) Conversation with God on the judgment day:" *And ˹on Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?”* He will answer, *“Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say?* *If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it.* *You know what is ˹hidden˺ within me, but I do not know what is within You.* *Indeed, You ˹alone˺ are the Knower of all unseen.* I never told them anything except what You ordered me to say: *“Worship Allah-my Lord and your Lord!” And I was witness over them as long as I remained among them. But when You took me, You were the Witness over them-and You are a Witness over all things.* *If You punish them, they belong to You after all. But if You forgive them, You are surely the Almighty, All-Wise.* *Allah will declare, “This is the Day when ˹only˺ the faithful will benefit from their faithfulness.* *Theirs are Gardens under which rivers flow, to stay there for ever and ever. Allah is pleased with them and they are pleased with Him. That is the ultimate triumph.* *To Allah ˹alone˺ belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and everything within. And He is Most Capable of everything.* Quran Al-Ma'idah Chep 5 Verse (116-120) *Its very clear that Jesus (PBUH) was a messanger of Allah and he taught people to worship only one Allah without any partners.* *Worship only Allah without any partners.* *Our creator is only one Allah.* *There is no God except Allah* *and Muhammad (ﷺ) is his last* *and final messanger.*
@@Iamthewarner557 God said about Jesus in Matthew 17:5 “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Hear Him!” There is one God, yes. And He came to earth in the likeness of human flesh so that he could pay what we couldn't pay. This was Jesus, God come to us in the flesh to take away the sins of the whole world. Jesus said in John 14:6, "I am the way, the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." He also said in John 10:30, "I and the Father are One." The Jews he was talking to made the same mistake as you. They didn't know that God the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are all One. Just like we have one sun in the sky. Even though the sun has three distinct parts--the light rays, the heat rays, and the chemical rays--it is one sun. Likewise, there is one God with three distinct parts. Jesus said in John 12:45, "The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me." It is like if God was an ocean of water. Jesus could be compared to a water jar full of the same ocean water. The body is different, but what's on the inside is from the same ocean. God loves you. He wants to give you peace and forgiveness. Romans 10:9-13 says: that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. 13 For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved. I love you and Jesus loves you ever more. If you turn to Jesus, He will free your heart. Ask him if this is true. Ask him if he is the One.
Thank you, Brother Allen, for this video. This helped me a lot, especially knowing what the Trinity was. At first, I was confused, but when I watched your video, I finally had peace. God bless you!
@@ArcticSeraph I'll explain it to you. When people talk of "God," they're either conflating the nature with the "person" (which is heresy) or using it as shorthand for "God the Father."God in Christianity is a "nature" or "substance" that exists in 3 distinct persons. All of them are God, but they are still unique persons. Think of it like this: God is like identical triplets. Although identical triplets are three different people, they all LITERALLY share ONE DNA. Genetically they are identical, but are you going to look at three triplets and say they aren't 3 different people? Of course not. So it's the same with "God." God is this "divine DNA" that manifests in 3 different "people." They are not each other, but they are all one "God." It might be a little bit confusing, but once you understand the differences between "person" and "essence" it makes sense.
One very clear God Himself gave us: every HUMAN is a trinity...created in the image and likeness of God... We are 1.Body, 2. Mind, and 3. Spirit.... Three aspects comprising one whole...
@@sabrina3138 Hebrews 3:1 Consequently, brothers set apart, partakers of a most exalted position, consider the apostle and high priest of our declaration, Jesus Christ, 2 faithful to Him Who created him, as Moses also was in all his house. 3 For he has been counted worthy of more eminence than Moses, since the one having constructed it has more honour than the house. 4 For every house is built by somebody, but He Who built all things is God. 5 And Moses was indeed faithful in all his house as a servant, for a testimony of those things going to be spoken afterwards. 6 Christ, though, is faithful as a son over his house, whose house we are, if we hold fixed the firm confidence and the rejoicing of the hope until the end.
The trinity doctrine is unscriptural. God said, "Is there a God beside Me? .. I know not one" (Isaiah 44:8). The one God being referred to is the Father in heaven. The Lord Jesus said, "Father...that they may know You, the only true God..." (John 17:1, 3). The apostles explained, "yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things.." (I Cor. 8:6). But this truth is hidden in mystery from those outside God's commissioning. Let's study God's words in the IGLESIA NI CRISTO (CHURCH OF CHRIST)
When they were preaching the Trinity in church, my little one asked "So which God do I pray to?" I finally came to my senses. Matthew 11:25 Jesus said "I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise & intelligent and have revealed them to infants." The kingdom of heaven belongs to people like these children. Matthew 19:14 The gospels they hid from us (by the miracle of God found this generation) - have warnings not to associate any names to God, as that would lead ppl astray. God has no name known to man in this world. We are all born with a conscience & the knowledge in our heart that there is one God our Creator & we call him God in whichever language we know. It is really simple & straightforward. It is man who teach that God's name is another & fanciful theories of the Trinity, old/new convenant.
That's the truth sister there is only one God these trinatarians don't realize to believe in 3 person's is idolatry, the Lord God is one Lord, they lean to their own understanding instead to Gods word, they have fanciful theories and can use their reasoning and logic and try to get it to "make sense" but it is false and started at the nicean council by the roman catholic church. The God of the Bible always was one same with water baptism people can't see how simple it is, the Name of Father, Son and Holy Ghost is none other than the Lord Jesus Christ. Not one apostle ever baptized any other way than the name Jesus Christ, because Father is not a name, son is not a name and Holy Spirit is not a name, it is what it is his name is Jesus Christ. People want to argue about it but he has hid it from the wise and prudent and revealed it to babes such as would learn.
@@moyreyes3508 John 10;30 “I and my Father are one.” John 10;38 “But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.” Jesus claim to be God.
In this passage, the word “Lord” is translated from the word “Jehovah.” It says, “Jehovah our Elohim is one.” Jehovah is singular. Elohim is plural. The word “echad” is the word for “one.” It does not mean a singular one but a collective one. Genesis 2:24 Husband and wife are a collective one. Genesis 11:6 All the people were called “one people.” Numbers 13:23 A bunch of grapes but “one cluster.” 1 Samuel 13:17 One company of people. 1 Chronicles 17:21 “One nation.” These passages are referring to one as a unity. Jehovah our Elohim is one (a unity).
Great breakdown 😃🙏🏽 the problem with certain doctrines about explaining who God is is that too many people are trying to figure God out with human understanding. Only He can truly explain Himself to each individual, so pray and ask for clarity and truth on the matter rather than arguing/falling out with your neighbour/brothers and sisters in Christ🤦🏽♀️ Anyway that’s not even what saves your soul, our eternal life depends on believing that Jesus Christ, the son of God (through His death and resurrection) brought man’s redemption and a way out from eternal damnation, He is the way the truth and the life, the one who reconnects us back to the Father! Just because something doesn’t make sense, doesn’t make it wrong, it just means we have to seek God truly for who He is with all our hearts in prayer and studying the word of God despite the many philosophies, theologies and theories constructed by man. Regardless, we’ll never have God figured out but we can only trust that He’ll reveal what’s important and lead us to eternal life.
The trinity makes so much sense because: Whenever God wants to do something with his almighty he first wills it, then he does it. That’s how God always works, first willing something and then doing it. For example: How does God make it that he is eternal. He does the following. First God wills to be eternal and then he uses the power to realize this will. so the commandment that God gave himself to be eternal has always existed, he never created it, it has always been there. He can’t just create the commandment to be eternal. Also, the power of God which implements this commandment that he is eternal has always existed, he never created it. He can’t just create the power that makes him eternal So these things have always existed: God, the word of God (Jesus) and the power of God that implements the word of God (Holy Spirit) Only God is eternal because to be eternal you have to be omnipotent , that is why the word of God and the power of God that implements his word (Holy Spirit) are God. That’s why the the Bible makes soooo much sense when it says In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. It makes soooo much sense why there HAS TO BE three persons that are one God, and not only one person. If there is an omnipotent being it has to be always triunion otherwise it can’t exist
I remember the first time hearing about the 'Trinity.' And getting it explained to me, I was like, WHAT! Fast-forward to this day; its so easy to understand! It just takes a bit of time to wrap your head around it. Our Creator is AMAZING😊😍💙!
Can you please explain how 3 serpste beings all fully God and all coexisting can make 1 God. Either they're 3 separate Gods or each equate to 1/3 of God.
@@sakaria744 Well, maybe if you think of it this way; lets say we have a man named Tim. He's a husband, a son and a father, but yet he is 1 person. So, in a similar way, thats how God is... Does that help in any way?
@@jess1987 I'm sorry but that analogy doesn't work because the father is the husband who also is the son. So you can say theres 1 tim. But when you say jesus is not the father who's not the Son but they're all fully God that's where it doesn't ever make sense
@@jess1987 in Islam we worship Allah alone without any partners and we love jesus he is the slave and messnger of Allah, he was never crucified rather Allah raised him and a look alike was crucified. How can he be crucified when the bible says the one who dies by crucifixion is cursed. Galatians 3:13 CSB: Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, because it is written, Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree. Is jesus who you believe to be God also cursed ? And if he is cursed then how can God curse himself ?
@@mustaphaadamji9829 physically he died just as we die.. but He still existed fully as He was prior becoming a man. During the 3 days he entered where the souls were so not like being dead meant he no longer existed only his physical existence.
@@kuiama23 it wasn't 3days.. Jesus said "as Jonah was 3days n 3 nights in the belly of the fish so shall the son of man be 3days n 3 nights in the belly heart of the earth".. So was Jesus like Jonah?
@@mustaphaadamji9829 Jonah didnt die. But in the gutt it was hell in many respects .. Jesus talked in parables to the masses but even when HE spoke more directly it wasnt understood until after he rose from the grave. Jesus died and went to hell and revealed himself as he took the keys. But Jesus didnt say like Jonah I'm gonna get puked up on a beach. Only the 3 days AND NIGHTS. like cuz usual day follows day and no night between them. So. I think actually. U r just being a troll with enough knowledge to make u a hardened heart.. and not enough desire to seek wisdom on parts u truly do NOT understand because the seed never took any root when it fell on your ears... or the heart so cold it was rock hard to get info only to mock ones who have a SHALOM in a world that doesnt have peace.. and that drives u to try to have us to be as empty as u must be
TRINITY 1 John 5:7 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 1 Corinthians 12:4-6 There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them. There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. There are different kinds of working, but in all of them and in everyone it is the same God at work. 2 Corinthians 13:14 14 May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all. Matthew 3:16-17 16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. 17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him, I am well pleased.” John 14:16-17 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever- 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.
I was raised in the lds church (also know as the Mormon church.) but after I became a teenager I started doing research and long story short I stopped believing in the Book of Mormon and my faith became aligned with the teachings in the Bible. I am still learning things I wasn’t taught in the lds church and I want to understand the trinity but it’s still difficult for me to comprehend because I was repeatedly taught at a young age that God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are three separate beings. I am trying my best to understand the trinity that the Bible teaches us but I don’t think I’m doing a very good job at comprehending that they are one. Is god one spirit who dwells in three separate forms at once? or is he three separate beings united as one? And did god send himself to die on the cross in the form of Jesus and still stayed in heaven at the same time? Can someone explain this to me in a way that I can understand? I watched the video and I’m still confused. Either way I love god and have faith in him, I just want to better understand him so I can become closer to him and know the fullness of his gospel and so I won’t unknowingly spread false doctrine.
I already posted a comment but in case you don’t read it I’ll share it with you. First off if you wanna make actual sense of the Bible don’t rely on these types of popcorn entertainment videos. In fact it’s clergy like him (and even Jeff Durbin) that makes it more complicated than it has to be. The easiest way to view the trinity is as follows: CEO, CFO & COO. Three separate but one in purpose. It’s my opinion the main reason Christians don’t sub to this idea is if they do that automatically puts them in a position to believe in Joseph Smith’s version & that’s the last thing they want. But that’s just faulty reasoning. Just because you believe in 3 separate Gods doesn’t mean you have to believe in Mormonism. Nor does it mean you’re a “polytheist pagan”. I tell ya there’s so much sophistry in religion it’s not even funny.
Great is mystery of Godliness....this was hidden from the wise and revealed to babes ..... to answer this complicated question ask yourself who raised Jesus from the dead .Was it the father Jesus or the Holy Spirit
Well This Is How He Is . There Is One God, But Since He Is God, He Has Three copies of himself with different names BUT STILL HIMSELF he can Still Command The Position Of The Father, And The Father Can send his son(But still Himself In The Copy Of The Son ,And The Father Can Use Himself In The Copy Of The Holy Spirit To Resurrect The Son and vise versa , okay let me say he makes copies of himself to work out different things ,Without moving from The Throne. HE OPERATES IN THREE DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF HIMSELF WITHOUT LEAVING THE THRONE AS GOD.. In fact He can even intercede to His Father Version Of God Through His Version Of The Son and Holy Spirit..NO OTHER SPIRIT IS CAPABLE OF THIS MODE OF MANIFESTATION THATS WHAT MAKES HIM EXCEPTIONALLY GOD!!
(1John 5:7 [KJV]) For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. Edit: Thanks to all for pointing out my error in posting this from the Bible.
monkymonk6 that's what's know as the Johnanine comma bible.org/article/textual-problem-1-john-57-8 christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/53329/what-effect-did-the-1897-decree-regarding-the-johannine-comma-have-on-catholic-s wikivisually.com/wiki/Johannine_Comma That was a add in that didn't show up until the 1,500's.
He's near that passage wasn't in any manuscript until the 1,500's. But if it does solidify anything is that there is 3 manifestations of God. Even though it was added in to justify the Trinity.
monkymonk6 That verse is a forgery. The very fact you accept the 1245 makes all credibility you have a loss. The Septugiant of the verse in its original form looks like this: 7 For there are three witness bearers: 7 ὅτι Because τρεῖς three εἰσὶν are οἱ the (ones) μαρτυροῦντες, bearing witness, 7 Διότι τρεις είναι αυτοί που δίνουν μαρτυρία,
A problem I have with the trinity is that Jesus always refers to God as his father, receiving his power from him, being his own image, everything being created by the father through him. I can see as I read the Bible that although Jesus is divine, he is submitted towards the father creating a sort of inequality. What are your thoughts on that?
Jesus is all powerful God but when he came in human flesh he humbled himself and didn't use his divine attributes(that doesn't mean he didn't have ) but rather prayed to God the Father . In this way he set a good example to us . Don't forget the fact that he came here to live like a Human Being.
@@tiffanywright6653 lol jesus clearly indirectly said that he is the God . You should read bible a bit. Like jesus said he and father are one Jesus used title of old testament God "i am " Jesus called himself the alpha and omega . Jesus can forgive sin . Jesus said he was before the Abraham was . Jesus said son of God has to die for the world . Jesus accept worship in the bible . There are numerous verses in the bible which clearly shows that jesus is the God .
1. EUSEBIUS (C. 260-C. 340) was the Bishop of Caesarea and is known as “the Father of Church History.” Although he wrote prolifically, his most celebrated work is his Ecclesiastical History, a history of the Church from the Apostolic period until his own time. Today it is still the principal work on the history of the Church at that time. Eusebius quotes many verses in his writings, and Matthew 28:19 is one of them. He never quotes it as it appears today in modern Bibles, but always finishes the verse with the words “IN MY NAME.” For example, in Book III of his History, Chapter 5, Section 2, which is about the Jewish persecution of early Christians, we read: But the rest of the apostles, who had been incessantly plotted against with a view to their destruction, and had been driven out of the land of Judea, went unto all nations to preach the Gospel, relying upon the power of Christ, who had said to them,
Matt. 28:19 Note that it says " IN THE NAME". This is all in the singular, in other words there is only ONE Name. And it says, "in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.". It does Not say, in the name of the Father, and the Name of the Son, and the name of the Holy Spirit! NAME OF is only used ONCE. Not three times. So there is only ONE Name that fills the requirement. That is JESUS.
The Creeds: If Jesus died in 33 A.D. and the day of Pentecost was 50 days later. The day of Pentecost was a festival that took place 50 days after the Passover. That has Acts 2 taking place in 33 A.D., which would be the beginning of the church. How long after did the creeds come from that most churches follow these days? I will quote the Encyclopedia Britannica on the Trinity “Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Hebrew Scriptures: “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord” (Deuteronomy 6:4). The earliest Christians, however, had to cope with the implications of the coming of Jesus Christ and of the presumed presence and power of God among them-i.e., the Holy Spirit, whose coming was connected with the celebration of the Pentecost. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were associated in such New Testament passages as the Great Commission: “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” (Matthew 28:19); and in the apostolic benediction: “The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all” (2 Corinthians 13:14). Thus, the New Testament established the basis for the doctrine of the Trinity. The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. Initially, both the requirements of monotheism inherited from the Hebrew Scriptures and the implications of the need to interpret the biblical teaching to Greco-Roman religions seemed to demand that the divine in Christ as the Word, or Logos, be interpreted as subordinate to the Supreme Being. An alternative solution was to interpret Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as three modes of the self-disclosure of the one God but not as distinct within the being of God itself. The first tendency recognized the distinctness among the three, but at the cost of their equality and hence of their unity (subordinationism); the second came to terms with their unity, but at the cost of their distinctness as “persons” (modalism). It was not until the 4th century that the distinctness of the three and their unity were brought together in a single orthodox doctrine of one essence and three persons. The Council of Nicaea in 325 stated the crucial formula for that doctrine in its confession that the Son is “of the same substance [homoousios] as the Father,” even though it said very little about the Holy Spirit. Over the next half century, Athanasius defended and refined the Nicene formula, and, by the end of the 4th century, under the leadership of Basil of Caesarea, Gregory of Nyssa, and Gregory of Nazianzus (the Cappadocian Fathers), the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since. It is accepted in all of the historic confessions of Christianity, even though the impact of the Enlightenment decreased its importance.” There were seven ecumenical councils. That took place from 325-787 A.D. While the seventh council The Second Council of Nicaea’s whole purpose was to “affirm the use of icons and images”. Out of the seven councils, there was four creeds written. According to the world-wide church the first creed they follow they say comes from 150-180. While I can’t find the absolute date on that. The Encyclopedia Britannica says that “according to tradition, it was composed by the 12 Apostles, but it actually developed from early interrogations of catechumens (persons receiving instructions in order to be baptized) by the bishop.” Then there came the Nicene Creed which dates from 325 A.D. I quote the Encyclopedia Britannica on this also which says “Until the early 20th century, it was universally assumed that the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed (the more accurate term) was an enlarged version of the Creed of Nicaea, which was promulgated at the Council of Nicaea (325). It was further assumed that this enlargement had been carried out at the Council of Constantinople (381) with the object of bringing the Creed of Nicaea up to date in regard to heresies about the Incarnation and the Holy Spirit that had arisen since the Council of Nicaea. Additional discoveries of documents in the 20th century, however, indicated that the situation was more complex, and the actual development of the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed has been the subject of scholarly dispute. Most likely it was issued by the Council of Constantinople, even though this fact was first explicitly stated at the Council of Chalcedon in 451. It was probably based on a baptismal creed already in existence, but it was an independent document and not an enlargement of the Creed of Nicaea. The so-called Filioque clause (Latin filioque, “and the son”), inserted after the words “the Holy Spirit,…who proceeds from the Father,” was gradually introduced as part of the creed in the Western church, beginning in the 6th century. It was probably finally accepted by the papacy in the 11th century. It has been retained by the Roman Catholic, Anglican, and Protestant churches. The Eastern churches have always rejected it because they consider it a theological error and an unauthorized addition to a venerable document.” Then came the Chalcedonian Creed written in 451 A.D. Then came the Athanasian creed, which took place in about 500 A.D. So if Jesus died in 33 A.D. and the birth of the church happened 50 days later, how many years is that between the birth of the church and the full revelation of the Trinity? Yep you got it over 467 years! And to the council of Chalcedon in 451 which is 418 years! Friends don't take some fourth century invention, when reading your Birthday Bible. The Apostle's only knew of One God, not in 3 person's! 3 manifestations which God Almighty can manifest all at once! That's what being Omnipresent is all about!
Quotes from trinitarian historians, and secular Historians: Jude says in 1:3 “Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.” Dr. W. R. Matthews said in his book “God in Christian Thought and Experience page 180” “the doctrine of the Trinity … formed no part of the original message. St. Paul knew it not, and would have been unable to understand the meaning of the terms used in the theological formula on which the Church ultimately agreed.” Emil Brunner wrote in his book “The Christian Doctrine of God” that “Certainly, it cannot be denied that not only the word "Trinity", but even the explicit idea of the Trinity is absent from the apostolic witness to the faith.” September 9/10/1990 Mark A Noll wrote in “Christianity Today” a article titled the “Doctrine Doctor”. He wrote about a historian Jaroslav Pelikan that the article says “has written a history of the Christian tradition on a scale no one else has attempted in the twentieth century.” It also reported that this man “The Library of Congress has awarded its annual John W. Kluge Prize in the Human Sciences to Yale University historian Jaroslav Pelikan (along with French philosopher Paul Ricoeur). The $1 million award focuses on those academic disciplines not covered by the Nobel prizes and has only been awarded since 2003.” Mr. Pelikan said that "For those who believe that you don't need tradition because you have the Bible," he reflects, "The Christian Tradition has sought to say, 'You are not entitled to the beliefs you cherish about such things as the Holy Trinity without a sense of what you owe to those who worked this out for you.' To circumvent Saint Athanasius on the assumption that if you put me alone in a room with the New Testament, I will come up with the doctrine of the Trinity, is naive.” Walter Martin said in the 1985 debate on the “John Ankerberg Show” “The eternal son is a heresy created by Origen in 230 A.D.” He also said in his book “Kingdom of the Cults” “The Scripture nowhere calls Jesus Christ the eternal Son of God, and he is never called Son at all prior to the incarnation, except in prophetic passages in the Old Testament. The term "Son" itself is a functional term, as is the term "Father" and has no meaning apart from time. The term “Father” incidentally never carries the descriptive adjective “eternal” in Scripture; as a matter of fact, only the Spirit is called eternal (“the eternal Spirit” in Hebrews 9:14), emphasizing the fact that the words Father and Son are purely functional as previously stated.” Robert L Reymond said in his book “The Justification of Knowledge: An Introductory Study in Christian Apologetic Methodology” “Now, no matter how one prefers to translate logos in this passage (word, account, esteem, ratio, reason, formula, debate, speech, deliberation, discussion, oracle, sentence), I agree with Gordon H. Clark when he writes, “Any translation of John 1:1 that obscures…emphasis on mind or reason is a bad translation.” “The Wycliffe Bible Encyclopedia, Moody Press, Chicago, IL, Volume 2 pages 1046-1047 states”
“Many scholars have argued that the apostle John had this philosophical development (of the Greek philosophical LOGOS) in the back of his mind when he wrote the prologue to his Gospel and that he actually tried to impart some of these (Greek Philosophical) concepts. For a long time many have contended that the background of the fourth Gospel was essentially Hellenistic rather than Hebraic. In dealing with such an assertion we may note that studies in the Dead Sea scrolls have tended to confirm the traditional conservative position that the cultural orientation of the Gospel of John was Hebraic. Moreover, we must observe that John was a simple fisherman from Palestine … there is no evidence that he imbibed any Greek pagan philosophical orientation in John Chapter 1. If he intended to be philosophical in the first few verses, he certainly was not anywhere else. We may argue that John used the word ‘logos’ in its ordinary meaning.” C. Pearl and R. Brookes wrote in their book “A Guide to Jewish Knowledge, pages 96,97” “Having affirmed the existence of God, Judaism really lays down only one basic idea about Him which is a recognised dogma - the Unity of God. ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is One.’ This is immediately a negation of the polytheism of the ancient world with its numerous deities. It is a repudiation of the idea that there are two gods or two creative sources of existence, one of good and the other of evil. It is also a clear denial of the idea of a trinity - three gods in One which is the established doctrine of Christianity. For Judaism there can be absolutely no compromise at all in this fundamental concept of the Only One God who is the ultimate creative source of all life and death, the elements of nature and history and the power behind all forces, physical and spiritual.”
More Quotes: Dr. Benjamin B. Warfield said in his book “Biblical Doctrine” that “The term “Trinity” is not a Biblical term, and we are not using Biblical language when we define what is expressed by it as the doctrine that there is one only and true God, but in the unity of the Godhead there are three coeternal and coequal Persons, the same in substance but distinct in subsistence. A doctrine so defined can be spoken of as a Biblical doctrine only on the principle that the sense of Scripture is Scripture. And the definition of a Biblical doctrine in such unbiblical language can be justified only on the principle that it is better to preserve the truth of Scripture than the words of Scripture. The doctrine of the Trinity lies in Scripture in solution; when it is crystallized from its solvent it does not cease to be Scriptural, but only comes into clearer view. Or, to speak without figure, the doctrine of the Trinity is given to us in Scripture, not in formulated definition, but in fragmentary allusions; when we assembled the disjecta membra into their organic unity, we are not passing from Scripture, but entering more thoroughly into the meaning of Scripture. We may state the doctrine in technical terms, supplied by philosophical reflection; but the doctrine stated is a genuinely Scriptural doctrine.” Edmund J Fortman said in his book “The Triune God” that “The Biblical witness to God, as we have seen, did not contain any formal or formulated doctrine of the trinity, any explicit teaching that in one God there are three co-equal divine persons. Rather it contained the data from which a doctrine of this kind could be formulated. And it would take three centuries of gradual assimilation of the Biblical witness to God before the formulation of the dogma of one God in three distinct persons would be achieved.” “The New Catholic Encyclopedia”, 1967, Volume 14, page 299: "The formulation 'one God in three Persons' was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective." “The History of Christianity”, by Peter Eckler: "If Paganism was conquered by Christianity, it is equally true that Christianity was corrupted by Paganism. The pure Deism of the first Christians, (who differed from their fellow Jews only in the belief that Jesus was the promised Messiah,) was changed, by the Church of Rome, into the incomprehensible dogma of the trinity. Many of the pagan tenets, invented by the Egyptians and idealized by Plato, were retained as being worthy of belief." Oxford University Professor J. N. D. Kelly: "During the first three centuries of its existence, the Christian Church had first to emerge from the [monotheistic] Jewish environment that had cradled it and then come to terms with the predominantly Hellenistic (Greek) culture surrounding it. ... "Most of them exploited current philosophical conceptions. . . They have been accused of Hellenizing Christianity (making it Greek in form and method), but they were in fact attempting to formulate it in intellectual categories congenial [suited] to their age. In a real sense they were the first Christian theologians." “Dictionnaire Lachatre” "The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. . . . This Greek philosopher's conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions." Encyclopedia Britannica (1976): "Such a Hellenization did, to a large extent, take place. The definition of the Christian faith as contained in the creeds of the ecumenical synods of the early church indicate that unbiblical categories of Neoplatonic philosophy were used in the formulation of the doctrine of the Trinity." “The 15-volume Dictionnaire de Theologie Catholique”: "It seems unquestionable that the revelation of the mystery of the Trinity was not made to the Jews." Jesus says plainly in John 4:22 “You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews.” Arthur Weigall, in his book “The Paganism in Our Christianity, p. 198” “"In the Fourth Century B.C. Aristotle wrote: 'All things are three, and thrice is all: and let us use this number in the worship of the gods; for, as the Pythagoreans say, everything and all things are bound by threes, for the end, the middle, and the beginning have this number in everything, and these compose the number of the Trinity.'" Millard J Erickson “Christian Theology” (P. 321) “In the doctrine of the Trinity, we encounter one of the truly distinctive doctrines of Christianity. Among the religions of the world, the Christian faith is unique in making the claim that God is one and yet there are three who are God. In so doing, it presents what seems on the surface to be a self-contradictory doctrine. Furthermore, this doctrine is not overtly or explicitly stated in Scripture. Nevertheless, devout minds have been led to it as they sought to do justice to the witness of Scripture.” W. Fulton “Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics” “The term "Trinity", is not found in the Bible. Theophilus of Antioch around 180 A.D. first used the Greek term trias (a set of three) in reference to God, his Word, and his Wisdom. However, Tertullian in 215 A.D. was the first one to state this doctrine using the Latin term, Trinitas (Trinity), referring to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.” “The Story of Civilization”: Part III, page 595: "Christianity did not destroy paganism; it adopted it. From Egypt came the ideas of a divine trinity." "The word triad, or trinity, was borrowed from the pagan schools of philosophy and introduced into the theology of Christians of the middle second century by Theophilus, Bishop of Antioch."-Bibliotheque Ecclesiastique, Dupin “Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel”: "The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. This Greek philosopher's conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions."-Volume 2, page 1467 Colossians 2:8 “Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.”
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according to christian scholars, that verse is forgery. not found in the old manuscript. latest revised version throw it out. the only bible that has this verse is king james version. as far as i know.
@@lantorres8708 Not really Reina Valera 1960 has the same... Also John 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and my Father are one.
@@faridrn6699 yeah, that verse is an interpolation a concoction. Also, why does jesus say I and the father are one and not i the Holy spirit and the father are one? Why is holy spirit not mentioned?
I automatically think of Jesus being baptized and heaven opening up and God saying this was His Son and the Holy Spirit coming upon Him in the form of a dove, so they were all 3 there at the same time, which I believe shows that the idea of God switching back and forth between those roles is wrong. I had actually never heard that idea before. I believe that He is all 3 and the same all the time, but I also don't completely understand it. With things i don't fully understand I just believe when we meet Him in heaven it will be an Ah-hah moment for us all! I think it will all completely make sense when He is ready for us to completely know and understand! I go back to Adam and Eve and how they didn't understand and let that sway them, but God was watching out for them and knew what was best the entire time. I hold onto that when I run across things in His word that I can't completely wrap my head around. Love your channel, I just found it a few weeks ago and have been watching numerous videos everyday!! God Bless!!!!!
Yes Melz.....I too don't fully understand it...but we don't have to in order to believe. That is faith. I so love GOD, The Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit.
@@Dearest_Kenyetta lies. God said He alone is God and there is none other with Him. No other spirit, no son, no company, no help. Nothin, zip, nada. God is alone. That Father alone is God and God alone is the Father.
@@Dearest_Kenyetta sis, you are an Israelite. You are a Jew. Those men who are in our land are not the Jews. You and me? We are. You come from one of the 12 Tribes of Israel.
The Meaning of One 1Co 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is ONE Spirit. The Spirit is God's essence. Spirit is what God is, and the Spirit He is is the Holy Spirit. That is the missing key to understanding "the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. The reason the Father and the Son are One is because they are the Holy Spirit. This scripture makes it plain. The Spirit is also how we are one in them when we believe. Ro 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but IN THE SPIRIT, if so be that THE SPIRIT OF GOD DWELL IN YOU. Now if any man have not THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of his. 10 ¶ And if CHRIST be IN YOU, the body is dead because of sin; but THE SPIRIT IS LIFE because of righteousness. 11 But if THE SPIRIT OF HIM THAT RAISED UP JESUS from the dead DWELL IN YOU, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by HIS SPIRIT THAT DWELLETH IN YOU. Ro 12:5 So WE, BEING MANY, ARE ONE BODY IN CHRIST, and every one members one of another. 1Co 10:17 For we being many are ONE BREAD, and ONE BODY: for we are all partakers of that ONE BREAD. 1Co 12:12 ¶ For as THE BODY IS ONE, AND HATH MANY MEMBERS, and all the members of that ONE BODY, being many, are ONE BODY: SO ALSO IS CHRIST. In the exact same way, Jesus said,... Joh 10:30 I AND my Father ARE ONE. Joh 17:11 ¶ And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that THEY MAY BE ONE AS WE ARE: (IN THE SAME WAY) Joh 17:20 ¶ Neither pray I for these alone, but for THEM ALSO WHICH SHALL BELIEVE IN ME through their word; 21 THAT THEY ALL MAY BE ONE; AS THOU, FATHER, ART IN ME, AND I IN THEE, THAT THEY ALSO MAY BE ONE IN US: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that THEY MAY BE ONE, AS WE ARE ONE: (IN THE SAME WAY) 23 I IN THEM AND THOU IN ME, that they may be made perfect IN ONE; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. Joh 17:24 ¶ Father, I WILL THAT THEY ALSO, WHOM THOU HAS GIVEN ME, BE WITH ME WHERE I AM; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for THOU LOVEDST ME BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD. 25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me. 26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I IN THEM. Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another COMFORTER, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for HE DWELLETH WITH YOU, AND SHALL BE IN YOU. 18 ¶ I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU. Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and WE WILL COME UNTO HIM, AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM. Jesus comes to us in the Holy Spirit. The Spirit doesn't leave them, it emanates from them. That is how God is omnipresent. His Spirit permeates every place in heaven and earth. Joh 20:21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you. 22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: Mt 7:7 ¶ Ask, and it shall be given you; Lu 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? In the book of Revelation, in the last two chapters, where it talks about the new heaven and the new earth, we find no mention of the Holy Spirit. But the Holy Spirit is there, in the Father and the Son. What we do see is a river of life flowing out of the throne. Re 22:1 ¶ And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. Joh 7:37 ¶ In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.) Joh 4:10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water. 11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water? 12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle? 13 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again: 14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. Trinity isn’t a good explanation of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Look at these references to the Holy Spirit. These are from the kjv. Holy Spirit, Holy Ghost, the Spirit, Spirit of God, Spirit of Jesus Christ, Spirit of the Lord , Spirit of Christ, Spirit of the living God, Spirit of our God, Spirit of your Father, holy Spirit of God, Spirit which is of God, Spirit of His Son, his Holy Spirit, My Spirit, His Spirit, the Lord is that Spirit, Spirit of grace, holy Spirit of promise, Spirit of adoption, Spirit of life in Christ, Spirit of life from God, the Spirit itself. The way the Spirit is described in the scripture as being "of God" and "of His Son" and being "His Spirit", it doesn't sound like a third person. I don't think the Spirit is a third person. I think it is what God is. Just as you and I are human beings, the Father and Son are Holy Spirit. Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. Spirit is what God is, and the Spirit He is is the Holy Spirit. Php 1:19 For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,
THE BEAT by Allen Parr Greetings Brother Allen. I do not mean to spark debate but speak reason. John 14: 8 -9. Philip said to Jesus, " Lord, show us the Father, and that will satisfy us." Jesus replied, I have been with all of you for a long time. Don't you know me yet, Philip? The person who has seen me has seen the Father. So how can you say, ' Show us the Father'? ( God's Word Translation )
And if youll look up the translation of "one" in "I and my father are one" it means the number 1. Singular. ... not in spirit mission or purpose... its 1 as in ... one in the same.
So if Jesus is the same as God the Father, does this mean that Jesus was praying to Himself? You see how this interpretation could cause major theological issues? Jesus was clearly praying and communicating with His Father. They are two DISTINCT Persons coexisting at the same time as I have just proven. And no I don't see your response as debate, this is just a healthy discussion of which I LOVE to have with other believers. Let's continue this. This is good Larry!
“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.“ Isaiah 9:6 Bethany
Is. 9:6 simply refers to the "Spirit of God" that would dwell WITHIN Christ. Note: "A CHILD...(a human being)...SHALL BE...(meaning--it hadn't happened yet)...and...BORN." Well, God was NOT "born." These titles, or designations were BESTOWED upon Christ because God (the Father) knew (because He's God) that Jesus would be "obedient "UNTO DEATH (the CROSS)." Bless you, and open your heart, Mr. Robidoux.
@C S The very name, "Christ" means the "Anointed-one." It was God the FATHER that "anointed" the Son. Question: What, according to Acts 10:38, did God "anoint" Jesus with? Scripture ALSO says, God (the FATHER) "gave" Jesus "All Power and authority." There are MANY more examples that CLEARLY illustrate Jesus is NOT GOD. God the FATHER is the One and Only "Holy Spirit!" There are NO MORE than ONE Holy Spirit! If we could JUST get trinitarians to understand THAT--the debate would be OVER! Oh well, the devil is clever, and cunning. It's gonna' be a fight ALL THE WAY TO HEAVEN! Ah, but it's WORTH it!! God bless you all.
Ray Gabrelcik Mary gave birth to the Sacrifice of God (man Christ Jesus.) In him God dwelled but limited himself (Phillipians 2 and Colossians 2:9.) Amen
They got you! There is a question Jesus asked his disciples at Matthew 16:15. How would you answer? Neither Jesus nor his dsiciples spoke of a Trinity. It was not until 325 AD at the First Council of Nicaea that MEN introduced it. So its men over Christ for many. Antichrists are those who deny both The Father AND The Son. How? They deny the Father is ALONE God. There are no others. They deny The Son in that they make him God rather that he is FROM God. The Trinity is a demon-inspired teaching and it is of the spirit of antichrist. It gives a middle finger to The One God. The Apostle Paul taught at 1 Cor 8:6 that there is ONE GOD and that ONE GOD is identified as THE FATHER. He says we have one Lord, and he is Jesus Christ. Here are some Scriptures I would love Trinitarians to reconcile with Jesus being God. 1. Deuteronomy 4:35,39 2. Deuteronomy 6:4 3. Deuteronomy 32:39 4. 2 Samuel 7:22 5. 1 Kings 8:60 6. 1 Chronicles 17:20 7. Nehemiah 9:6 8. Psalm 18:31 9. Psalm 86:10 10. Isaiah44:6,8 11. Isaiah 45:21 12. Joel 2:27 13. John 17:3 14. 1 Corinthians 8:4-6 15. 1 Timothy 1:17 16. 1 Timothy 2:5 17. James 2:19
But of the Son [Jesus] he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness beyond your companions.”
Jesus is not mentioned until the book of Matthew. Old Testament the creator is God. Jesus is the creator but the Holy Spirit gave birth to him so a being existed before he did to create him. That doesn’t make any sense. Jesus Christ came down 42 generations but we first hear about him in Matthew.
@Find Truth I don't use my own understanding, that would mislead you, I let the Holy Spirit speak and only speak GOD'S Word. Where's your scriptures if what I said was wrong? Lean not on your own understanding but in all your ways acknowledge GOD and HE shall direct your path. Please find someone else to play with, I don't play, or ever try to mislead anyone, especially when it comes to my LORD and my GOD JESUS CHRIST, now take care.
Biblical TRINITY is 3-N-1 comes from 2 Root Words, TRI = means 3, and UNITY = means United as One... which means 3 Separate Distinct Individual Divinities/Deities composed of Father God (YHWH), Son of God (Word/Christ Jesus), and God the Holy Spirit, UNITED as ONE (working together as ONE)... Christ Jesus declared and revealed, "MY FATHER (God/YHWH AND I (Son/Word/Christ) ARE ONE."... (ref. John 10:31)... However, "UNITY does not mean EQUALITY"... Father God (YHWH) is still the GODHEAD, GOD OF GODS, and JUDGE AMONG GODS... (ref. Psalm 82 / Deut. 10:17)... Christ Jesus declared and acknowledged, "MY FATHER (God/YHWH) IS GREATER THAN I (Son/Word/Christ)."... (ref. John 14:28)... Just like the Husband (Male) and Wife (Female) are 2 Separated Distinct Individual FLESHES (Bodies) UNITED as ONE Soul/Spirit through the Sacrament of Matrimony (Marriage Vows)... likewise, Christ Jesus as the GROOM and God's Church is the BRIDE, they are UNITED as ONE BODY of Christ... God is the TRUTH that does not CHANGE (Identities) forever and eternally... (ref. Malachi 3:6)... God does not LIE, CLAIM, PRETEND, and DISGUISE someone HE is not... Heretical TRINITY is "1-N-3" also called TRIUNE which means One (1) God (YHWH) in 3 Persons/Characters (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit)... which means GOD is ABSOLUTE ONE... That God (YHWH) was also the ONE who came down from Heaven and manifested into FLESH called Christ Jesus (Yeshua Massach) as the SAVIOR of Mankind... God (YHWH) is also the Holy Spirit who Guide and Comfort the Christians in their Life's journey here on Earth... ONE GOD disguised to mankind as the FATHER, SON, and the HOLY SPIRIT... This kind/type of TRINITY is PURE HERETICAL (Evilness) and NON-BIBLICAL that Satan wants Christians to believe... Praise be to God in Christ Jesus... Amen.
You see, here's the problem with the concept; you can have your own way of explaining it. That's why you see videos on youtube with titles such as "How I explain Trinity". God is not a God of confusion and it should not be up to human beings to bring different explainations of the concept that was, by the way, brought up about 3 centuries later.
JOHN 17 : 6 “I HAVE REVEALED YOU TO THOSE WHOM YOU GAVE ME OUT OF THE WORLD. THEY WERE YOURS ; YOU GAVE THEM TO ME AND THEY HAVE OBEYED YOUR WORD. NOW THEY KNOW THAT EVERYTHING YOU HAVE GIVEN ME COMES FROM YOU. ”
It's common knowledge that when you break down and compare even the smallest part of a simple thing it gets more wordy which some think it gets more complicated because the definition is more in length than the original. The Word was God and became Jesus, a man in a servant body which made him no longer in his God material Spirit man body with his own Spirit of God within him thereby becoming no more a true God After he successfully completed his servant work he was begotten of God as God as he had been from the beginning. The Word had been with the God and the God revealed himself to Abraham as Almighty God to Moses as I AM, and Jehovah/Yahweh/LORD to Israel allowing no knowledge of the Word as Israel's God of worship. As time passed the God realized his agreement (covenant) with Israel was inadequate (because of man's weakness in Israel) and prophesied of a coming New Testament (New Covenant) revealing the Word to be his equal as God but not while he came to fulfill the Old Testament covenant commandments. God had sent the Word to make the foundation of the transition from the Old to the New to include the Word's equality with himself known which only began after the Word's resurrection from the dead begotten of God. This seems simple enough.
1 Timothy 2:5 - For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. Notice it says Jesus is a mediator between man and God. Not God himself. 2 Samuel 7:22 Wherefore thou art great, O LORD God; for there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears. Isaiah 46:9 - For I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me As you can see Jesus is not God. Jesus is Gods son and the mediator between us and Jehovah.
@@bobwellington7580 context CONTEXT: from Exodus 20:2 - end of Malachi all Old Testament passages are under Exodus 20:2-3 'I am the LORD your God/Elohim/Gods who have - plural verb - brought you out of the land of Egypt out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods/elohim before me.' Notice: One LORD/Jehovah/Yahweh is God/Elohim/Gods 'I (not we are) am the LORD' Exodus 20:2 'before me' Exodus 20:3, Deuteronomy 6:4 'Hear o Israel the LORD our God is one LORD'. The Singular God, the LORD God/Elohim/Gods, is Elohim/Gods because he overcame the multiple gods/elohim, under one name, shown in action over the individual gods/elohim of the land of Egypt. It follows that the LORD who brought, led Exodus 13:21 Israel out of the land of Egypt iS ONLY TO BE WORSHIPPED, their God/'object of worship'. The Rock that followed Israel 1st Corinthians 10:4 'drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ' was not the Rock of Israel Isaiah 44:8 who led them out of the land of Egypt out of the house of bondage' Exodus 20:2. The Christ that followed Israel 1st Corinthians 10:4 was not, nor would be Israel's Savior out of Egypt out of bondage but would be Israel's Savior out of the bondage of sin Romans 8:19-23, John 8:34 'you shall call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins' Matthew 1:21. It follows the One God/Elohim/gods/elohim/'object of worship' of Israel was the One God who led them out of the land of Egypt Exodus13:21, 20:2, not the gods/elohim/'object of worship' who followed Israel out of Egypt, nor the One who was to 'save his people from their sins' Matthew 1:21 from which comes all Old Testament covenant commandments and passages which proclaim 'there is none else, no God beside him, he knows of no other God or Rock' that led Israel out of the land of Egypt out of the house of bondage' Exodus 13:21, 20:2. Yes? The one mediator between God and man is the man Christ Jesus through his crucified flesh Hebrews 10:19-20 'having therefore brethren boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus by a new and living way which he has consecrated for us through the veil that is to say his flesh'. Today Jesus 'For the Father judges no man but has committed all judgment to the Son ... and has given him authority to execute judgment also for he is the Son of man' John 5:22,27 'the Father judges no man' including the Son of man, Jesus Christ 'gave him to be head over all things to the church which is his body the fulness of him that fills all in all' Ephesians 1:22-23 'in heaven and in earth' Matthew 28:18 over all men John 5:22: Is the Judge of all the earth Genesis 18:25, John 5:22 and God over all men Hebrews 13:4, Revelation 20:11-15, 1st Corinthians 15:27-28. 'You shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power' Mark 14:62 'Having purged our sins sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high', not IS the right hand of the Majesty, Hebrews 1:3. Completed his task 'shall save his people from their sins' Matthew 1:21 and is sat down on the right hand of the Majesty, power, on high Hebrews 1:3, Mark 14:62, Hebrews 10:19-20.
At 5:00 im not sure how the statement is bad..I guess reading that I wouldn't think that someone is saying God is "one at a time". Can't that be read as "we have one God, he is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit"
Man is created in the image of God: Body, soul and Spirit. Jesus was the body manifest on earth, He's soul, which is the Father, His Spirit which is the Holy Spirit. That's why He alone could say, if you have seen me you have seen the Father, if you have known me you have known the Father for we are one. He came unto His own and they received Him not. One God, one faith, one baptism. Please read : Isaiah 9 :6
John 10:36 Do you say of him whom the Father consecrated and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’? How do you explain that text where Jesus himself said he is the son of God and not God himself ? And there are more then 100 Bible verses where he says that over and over again.
The prophecies of Isaiah 7:14 & Isaiah 9:6 said that this promised Son would be God in human flesh (Immanuel & the everlasting Father). When Jesus told Philip "When you see me, you see the Father", He was merely echoing what the prophet Isaiah had already said. If you read the four places in the Gospel of John where Jesus was talking about sending the "Comforter", you'll notice that sometimes he said " I will send", other times he said " the Father will send". This comforter is the Holy Ghost as the scripture said; also of which Matt. 1:18 says that Mary was found with child of the Holy Ghost. How then could Jesus send His own Father?
@@daystargospel5566 Jesus did say “nobody can come to my father before coming to me” and that’s just in prayer. Look how Jesus didn’t call himself God he did say when you see me you see the Father hencing he is of the image of his Father. Not in one text in the Bible did Jesus say he is God. Although his disciples called him Lord they didn’t mean that as he is God. That’s a way of addressing someone specially back in those days.The Bible’s answer Jesus’ opposers accused him of making himself equal to God. (John 5:18; 10:30-33) However, Jesus never claimed to be on the same level as Almighty God. He said: “The Father is greater than I am.”-John 14:28. Jesus’ early followers did not view him as being equal to Almighty God. For example, the apostle Paul wrote that after Jesus was resurrected, God “exalted him [Jesus] to a superior position.” Obviously, Paul did not believe that Jesus was Almighty God. Otherwise, how could God exalt Jesus to a superior position? -Philippians 2:9.
@@abbyxg5596 I'm certainly not trying to argue but give my revelation of who Jesus was: John ch 1. In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. Further, all things were created by Him and for Him. Further and the Word became Flesh and dwelt among us and we beheld Him as the only begotten Son of the Father. In other words the Word which is God was revealed to us in the flesh which is Jesus. In Him dwell the fulness of the Godhead bodily. I leave these scriptures with you not to confuse you but that God will reveal to you the truth. I was astounded when it hit me who Jesus really was. Agape love from me and I trust that the Lord will answer you as you do have a sincere heart.
@@rodneydevries749 not trying to argue either but I honestly don’t like when people say Jesus was God when he would say that his Father was God. If you look in the Bible not in one text did Jesus himself say he was God he always said my Father the almighty is God. I don’t know why people use other text describing Jesus as the image of his father and twist it to say he is God. Jehovah God and Jesuscrist aren’t the same . Just look at when Jesus told Peter the disciple to walk the water by the boat and Peter walked on the water . The people and his disciple recognize him “ You really are the Son of God” and not once did Jesus correct them by saying he is God. He always said his Father is God . And he came here to do his Fathers will.
Thanks for the video, Allen. I love the Trinity! It is, and always has been, an essential Christian doctrine. I think it’s the best and most powerful description to date (in human terms and understanding) of the all-powerful, ineffable, Most High God! Unlike what naysayers may say about the Godhead the Trinity is Biblical, which is why we baptize in the Name (singular) of three (plural) Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. There are many more verses than Matt. 28:19, most of which we read right over without noticing. A thorough study is well worth the time and helps tremendously when witnessing to others. God bless! 🕊 Stacy - former Mormon
Stacy, please email me at info@allenparr.com. I'd love to speak with you personally about your journey from Mormonism to Christianity. Thank you kindly,
THE BEAT by Allen Parr, Thanks brother Allen! I’d be happy to share my journey which led me out of Mormonism (1 Cor 7:23) into the arms of the true God! The first email has been sent. P.S. Brother R.C. Sproul is a great resource, along with Dr. James White, author of The Forgotten Trinity. Love to all my kin adopted in Christ Jesus! 🕊 Stacy
Deuteronomy 33:27 {The Father has always been} The eternal God is thy refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms: and he shall thrust out the enemy from before thee; and shall say, Destroy them. Psalm 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God. Jeremiah 23:24 {The Omnipresence of the Father} Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? Saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? Saith the LORD. Proverbs 15 {The omniscience of the Father } The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good. Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 1 John 3:20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things. Romans 11:33 Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out! Matthew 19 {The Omnipotence of The Father} 26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, with men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible. Malachi 3:6 {The Immutability of the Father} For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. ============================================================ John 8:58; 1:4; 5:26 {Jesus is self - Existent} Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Micah 5:2 {Jesus has always been he is eternal} Rev 1:8; John 3:16; 5:26 But thou, Bethlehem Ephrata, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. John 12:44-50; 14:16 {Jesus is infallible} For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak. Matthew 18:20 {The Omnipresence of the Son} For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. Ephesians 4:10 He that descended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things John 21:17 {The omniscience of the Son } He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, feed my sheep. Colossians 2:3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. John 2:24-25 But Jesus would not entrust himself to them, for he knew all people. He did not need any testimony about mankind, for he knew what was in each person. John 16:30 Now we can see that you know all things and that you do not even need to have anyone ask you questions. This makes us believe that you came from God." Matthew 28:18 {The Omnipotence of The Son} And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, all power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Revelation 1:8, 22:13, 16 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end the first and the last… I JESUS have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. Philippians 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself. Hebrews 13:8 {The Immutability of the Son} Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever. ============================================================ Hebrews 9:14 {The Holy Spirit has always been } How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? Hebrews 9:14 {The Omnipresence of the Spirit} How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the Living God? Psalm 139:7 Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence? 1 Corinthians 2:10 {The omniscience of the Spirit} But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 1 Corinthians 12:8-11 { The Omnipotence of The Spirit } For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: But all these worketh that one and the self-same Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. Matthew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, th-cam.com/video/iA136gMSM9M/w-d-xo.html In His service,
Today's orthodox belief would be considered heresy by John. Read 1 John 1 v 1 -4 and c2 v 18-19...they went out from US! 1 thess 1 v1. Please don't isolate v 18 of Matt 28. Read john 3 v 34+35; john 14 v 10 & 17 v 7-8. John 17 one in us - in name and glory. Holy spirit give after Jesus glorified by father's own self - not God the holy spirit.
It’s like trying to explain something supernatural with a human brain. I can’t limit God. All I can do is believe what he said. If he decided to split himself into 20 different beings and say all 20 is Him, then I know he is able.
The trinity doctrine is unscriptural. God said, "Is there a God beside Me? .. I know not one" (Isaiah 44:8). The one God being referred to is the Father in heaven. The Lord Jesus said, "Father...that they may know You, the only true God..." (John 17:1, 3). The apostles explained, "yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things.." (I Cor. 8:6). But this truth is hidden in mystery from those outside God's commissioning. Let's study God's words in the IGLESIA NI CRISTO (CHURCH OF CHRIST)
Beyond strange that you just made this video. I’ve been struggling with this. I totally do NOT understand anything it seems in relation to Christianity and I’ve claimed to be one my whole life. It’s not that I don’t want to believe I just struggle and feel condemned and convicted all the time!
@Christian Man i dont care if it was man made or not. the fact is . It its soo confusing AF. there is imposibe to make an analogy of it. human will never understand. thats why christian just accept it, and it is very weak basis for a religion. PURE DOCTRIN and FAITH. no REASON or EXPLANATION
Godsgift2mee Hey, is this a topic that you’re still grappling with? If so, I could try to help you out :) Jesus loves you and wants a relationship with you!
Rofid Rahmadi Hey it doesn't have to be confusing! Think of the trinity like this: God made us in his image, we have a body, mind, and soul just like Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Is that a good enough explanation?
@@rofidganteng1 'In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. The same - the Word was God - was in the beginning with God. ' John 1:1-2. The Word was God not the Word OF GOD: EVERY WORD MUST BE FORMED, IN ITS CONTEXT, AFTER ITS ORIGINATOR IS; TO IDENTIFY THE THOUGHT MEANT BUT GOD SAID 'BEFORE ME there was NO GOD FORMED NEITHER shall there be AFTER ME ' Isaiah 43:10 So, no God recognized as God by God or Scripture could be before or after God is, nor formed before or after God by God or anyone else! It was the God who became God Almighty to Abraham Genesis 17:1, to Moses and Israel Exodus 6:3, and the Father to Jesus John 8:54. It was the God the Word was made flesh as Jesus, called the Son of God. Luke 1:35,32. In John 8:17-18's teaching The law of Jesus' listeners is approved by the Father (it's Scripture, in another context John 10:34-35), There are two witnessess, as before a judge, And these two testifying witnesses are men By Jesus' listeners' law A man is defined as having a material tangible body with his own material spirit of man within him Genesis 2:7a-d with Zechariah 12:1 Jesus has his own material mortal dust body with his own material spirit of man - the Spirit of God's Son crying Abba Father Galatians 4:6, the Spirit of Jesus Christ Philippians 1:19, the Spirit of Christ crying Abba Father Romans 8:9 - within him. The Father - God Almighty Genesis 17:1, Exodus 6:3; the Father of Jesus John 8:54 ; a Spirit John 4:24 - has his own material body - God material Spirit man body - with his own material Holy Spirit of God 1st Corinthians 2:11 - a man as the spirit of man 1st Corinthians 2:11a is as man was before he had his own spirit of man formed within him Genesis 2:7a-d - within him. Many not defining who/what the Word was or not separating the Word from the God as well as establishing there's no eternal Father and Son as Hebrews 1:5 quotes 'I will be to him a Father and he shall be to me a Son', in the future 'will be' 'shall be'.
Allen: That was a very clear and concise explanation of the Trinity. I’ve often said that the clarification of the Trinitarian nature of God was the most (or at least one of the most) important contributions of the “early” church to our faith. May God continue to bless your ministry!
I’ve been doing a lot of research, and I’m trying to explain to someone close to me that Jesus was always God and at no point “gave up” or surrendered his divinity... can you expand upon this and clarify this biblically? Thank you!
As long as someone has a connection with the Lord Jesus Christ through constant prayer and obedience, the Holy Spirit inside of us will sort out the gray areas for them. It’s OK to try to edify them by sharing what you’ve come to understand in and through your own faith walk, but give them time and space to arrive at it themselves directly from God. As long as they hear you out, it is counterproductive to try and make them accepted right now. As long as they understand what you’re saying, God will do the rest. The main essence of our faith walk is obedience to the Lord Jesus Christ. When we do that, everything else is given to us by the Holy Spirit inside of us. Jesus is Lord. God bless you. ✝️💙🙂
Allen, I love your channel. You have a true heart for Yeshua(Jesus). What you're saying, and what I grew up believing, is confirmed in Genesis, when he speaks of mans creation. "HE" spoke the words, "let us make man in OUR image. Its actually quite simple. Thanks. God bless you and yours.🙏😊👍
If it were THAT simple, Mr. "Heavy," the debating would have been OVER long ago. God, in this verse, is speaking "Prophetically." His plan to "save" mankind required a "Savior," a Savior that had not yet COME. But God--being God--clearly KNEW His great plan. He SEES the future as if it has ALREADY HAPPENED. Rom.4:17 says, HE "calls things that are NOT as though they WERE." That means God SEES, in His GREAT MIND, every thing that will TAKE PLACE in the future, but He speaks as if it has already OCCURRED. He DOES that because He's God! Most theologians admit that this is God referring to the "coming Messiah," because the Old Test. is highlighted with prophecy of the coming Messiah, and the "types" that represent him. Notice: Nowhere in the Old Test., aside from those "prophecies" do we "see" Christ. Jesus did NOT appear until his "Virgin Birth" in the NEW Test. So, in other words, God was pointing to the "work" He would accomplish IN us THROUGH His "Son." And by the way, "image" here is not referring to "anatomical," it refers to "spiritual." God would "create" (re-create) through a "Spiritual regeneration." That is--being "Born-again." I know that's a lot to swallow at one time, but, keep an open heart. This "Tri-theistic doctrine was created by the ancient Roman Catholic church; not one SINGLE trinitarian term is found in the Greek or Hebrew--VERY suspicious! Study. Pray. Don't just read, or listen to what everyone says. Even ME! Study--seek the LORD and His Christ. God bless you, brother.
In Apologetics we use this rule: The principle of the harmony of Scripture (or, Scripture interprets Scripture): “no part of Scripture can be interpreted in such a way as to render it in conflict with what is clearly taught elsewhere in Scripture” (RC Sproul). I agree with this Christian even though Christianity does NOT follow its own acceptance of this rule. Therefore when you say "John saw that the ONE WHO SPOKE TO HIM WAS THE "SON OF MAN" - Rev 1:12,13" Then it means you can differentiate between the Son of man and the Almighty? Correct? And how are they different? Can the son of man be the Almighty? If we have to stick to the rule of harmony then he cannot be the Almighty Eloheem since it would contradict what Yahuah has said Of HIMSELF at least 89 times ALREADY BEFORE including this verse concerning the "Son of Man". Do you want to make him a liar and the son of man a liar too to make your false Catholic doctrine fit? It is fitting that Yahuah says HE DOES NOT LIE in case we forgot. Numbers 23:19 Eloheem is not a man, that he should lie; neither the *son of man, that he should repent...
The Scriptures Refute "Jesus is God" by Declaring Yah'ushua (pw Jesus) as the "Son of Man" According to Matthew 1:1, Yah'ushua (pw Jesus) is the SON OF ELOHIM, the SON OF DAVID, SON OF ABRAHAM. He is a man, but most importantly he is the SON OF MAN. Every time this term is mentioned referring to Yah'ushua we remember that Elohim (pw God) has already categorically stated that the Son of Man is NOT Elohim according to Numbers 23:19 as above. In the (REC) Renewed Everlasting Covenant (pw New Testament) it is said 89 times! Mat 8:20 (KJV) And Yah'ushua (pw Jesus) saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head. Mat 9:6 (KJV) But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house. Mat 11:19 (KJV) The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children. Mat 12:8 (KJV) For the Son of man is Master (pw Lord) even of the sabbath day. Mat 12:32 (KJV) And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. Mat 12:40 (KJV) For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Mat 13:37 (KJV) He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; Mat 13:41 (KJV) The Son of man shall send forth his malakhim (pw angels) , and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;................." etc., etc., see my book as I cannot fit all the 89 verses (Mat Mark Luke Acts and Rev) in here From my free book on my website "Why Jesus is not God / Why Yahushua is not Eloheem"
The trinity doctrine is unscriptural. God said, "Is there a God beside Me? .. I know not one" (Isaiah 44:8). The one God being referred to is the Father in heaven. The Lord Jesus said, "Father...that they may know You, the only true God..." (John 17:1, 3). The apostles explained, "yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things.." (I Cor. 8:6). But this truth is hidden in mystery from those outside God's commissioning. Let's study God's words in the IGLESIA NI CRISTO (CHURCH OF CHRIST)
JOHN 3;13 IS THE REMEDY. AND ACTS 2;38 IS THE REMEDY FOR THE BIGGEST LIE OF ALL HISTORY" THE SINNERS PRAYER" PAUL WROTE 13 OF OUR NEW TESTAMENT BOOKS, HE WAS BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST FOR THE REMISSION OF HIS SINS AND TELLS US IN HIS OWN WORDS:ACTS 22;6-16 AND LATER PREACHED IT: ACTS 19;1-1-7 THHAT APOSTLE PAUL, NEVER REPEATED A SO CLLED SINNERS PRAYER PEOPLE THINK THEY SEE A TRINITY IN THE BIBLE BECAUSE THE DONT KNOW THE FACTS, THE TRINITY WAS INTRODUCED IN 325 AD AT THE COUNCIL OF NICEA BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE CATHOLIC INSTITUTION, DEVILS KNOW GOD IS ONE JAMES 2;19 JUST THE TOPICOF ONE GOD FRIGHTENS THEM THEY HAVE BEEN AROUND WAY LONGER THAN MAN, LOOK IN A BIBLE CONCORDANCE, FIND THE SINNERS PRAYER, FIND THE TRINITY. .... (CRICKETS CHIRPING)
Where is the explanation? This belief is garbage man. No 2 trinity beliver carries the same benefits which shows you that you guys are confused. God is one and he says there is none with HIM! If I say there is no one with me at home but I am here father son and husband please tell me your gonna tell me I am home with 2 more persons. Smh father son holy spirit are all titles talking about the one God
Can I ask sir? But why did Jesus, or Peter or Paul never taught this belief in an obvious manner? If trinity is true in its existence, it should have been preached consistenly from the very beginning when Jesus started his minsitry and passed down to the disciples. Jesus always introduced God and son and nothing more. If we claim that trinity is the right belief because it is now being preached in churches, are we implying that Jesus and the apostles are wrong? because they never preached such a thing. I just need clarification.
You are right friend and you are blessed to see it. The apostles didn't teach it, therefore we shouldn't believe it. Please, see how Jesus defined eternal life in John 17:3. Also compare 1 Corinthians 8:6. The truth is, Jesus is not God, He is THE SON OF GOD, a man, the promised seed of David. That's what qualifies Him to be God's Christ, meaning God's anointed one. The foremost commandment is that God is one. Jesus is the example for us, so if you want to know how you are supposed to keep it, you just have to see how Jesus kept it. And He worshipped His Father alone as God. So should we.
The Clark Kent theology 😅 I always was taught that we human beings consist of three,the flesh,the mind and the soul. As we’re modeled after God but can’t physically manifest all different coexisting personas at the same time,which God can because he’s God. I personally think that the concept of not being able to understand something but it still being like it is,is so hard for people to fathom..that’s exactly why it’s only possible for God Hope that made sense 😅
"Co-existent Personas." Brother "Geoffrey," TELL me--are we "three different personas?" Please allow me to break that down for you. First of all, the "body--or FLESH," is NOT a "persona." Without the Soul, or the Mind, the body would be nothing more than an intricate, complicated mass of organic tissue--definitely NOT a persona. Secondly, we have but ONE Soul--ONE mind. These do NOT make up TWO personas. The Mind, without a Soul would be nothing more than a robotic intellect WITHOUT personality, reason, compassion, love, etc. Do you STILL think this analogy "holds water?" Furthermore, I/We do NOT possess a "2nd, or 3rd-Person" WITHIN us--we are but ONE individual with ONE Soul, One personality, One character--one NATURE...ONE!! Therefore, when examined a bit CLOSER, this analogy actually supports the "Singular" nature of our Mighty God. I hope you get a chance to read this Geoffrey. God bless you and your family.
Trinity... You mean the concept that was invinted by Tertullian and was rejected completely by a majority of the known church Bishops of the time, but was forced on everyone... that Trinity? Why cause such confusion? 1 Timothy 3:16 16And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. No three "persons" about it. God was manifest in the flesh. (That would be Jesus who was both fully man and fully God) Jesus was preached unto the gentiles. (as to where your "1st person god was not). God came down in flesh. Hence Jesus statement ..I an my Father are one (That word doesnt mean one in spirit.. it means one in number). Or When you have seen me, you have seen the Father. Tertullian taught so many other things that were bunk, yet this was swallowed. which explains why so few bishops came to the Nicean Council and why even less sighned the creed... but I digress. Your saying that "Oneness" is modalism is also incorrect. God did not cease becoming God when he came down in flesh (As the Bible says). He did not start becoming God again when Jesus was "Recieved up into Glory". God is, was, and always will be. Period. When you get to heaven, theres not going to be this Bodiless spirit sitting on a throne, Then Jesus standing to the side, then the Holy Ghost flapping around like a Dove.... There will be Jesus (God manifest in the flesh).
TXMadep214g it Did to me when I read it in the Bible. Its taught in thousands of churches across the us and many more across the world.. (UPC, WPF, AMF, and a slew of independent or charismatic churches) "Oneness" doctrine has been around since the Apostles taught it... spread with Pauls trips through Asia, an wasnt corrupted until Tertullian invented the Trinity a hundred years after the Apostles died.
Matthew 28 18¶Jesus came and told his disciples,“I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth. 19Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.
That's not right. The father and son are one, and the holy spirit and God are one. (Basically in 1 there are 3 and the 3 are 1) The holy spirit lives in us. 1 John 3 24Those who obey God’s commandments remain in fellowship with him, and he with them. And we know he lives in us because the Spirit he gave us lives in us. - this just said that since the spirit lives in us, God lives in us. So God and the spirit are one. Matthew 28 20Teach these new disciples to obey all the commands I have given you. And be sure of this: I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Colossians 3 11In this new life, it doesn’t matter if you are a Jew or a Gentile, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbaric, uncivilized, slave, or free. Christ is all that matters, and he lives in all of us. You see Jesus wasn't with his disciples in the flesh, but he told them that he would always be with them. The only explanation is that he and the spirit are one.
Lets looks at that Scripture.... Baptizing them in the what? ... the Name. Is that word singular, or plural? Singular. SO what's the name of the Son? Well, that would be Jesus. What's the name of the father? Well, that would be Jesus. What's the name of the Holy Spirit? Well, that would be Jesus At least according to this scripture (And every other) Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not names, they are titles. So this scripture is telling you to do what? Go, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of Jesus.
There is so much mental gymnastics taking place here. What we are being told here is that there is God the Father, who is God, God the Son who is God and God the Holy Ghost who is God. However, they are not 3 God's, there is only one God. But, 3 doesn't go into 1 for a reason. It really doesn't matter what way you explain the Trinity, it can't be understood and a preacher can claim he understands it but he can't. However, he can make you feel stupid because you don't really get his explanation and you nod your head in agreement not wanting to show everybody else that you must be stupid when in reality, they are all feeling like you but are nor going to admit to it. Its like the Kings new clothes. When Jesus was teaching in parables, he explained to his disciples why He did so, 'Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of Heaven, but to them it is not given'. ('Them' are those who teach without authority and teach things they do not understand). 'For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed...' When you enter into the private, holy, sacred and hallowed attitude of prayer, who or what do you visualise you are praying to? Is it a glorified being that you know hears your heart and your mind or is it 3 person's who are united seamlessly with 6 legs, 6 arms and 3 heads like something out of a Hindu painting, or is it a cloud, or is it a mist with a voice. I pray to my Father in Heaven, who I am the image off and who Jesus told me to pray to. It's very simple really. I know that the Saviour sits at the right hand of God and hears my expressions of love for His atoning sacrifice for me and I can feel the presence of the Holy Ghost who is attending me and hears my prayer too. 3 God's, one in unity, with one mind, one understanding but with different functions. I don't have to let on I understand the nature of the Godhead, I fully get it. The trinity is not mentioned in the Bible. There are more Scripture that talk about the separateness in the Bible than ones that can be twisted to create concepts like the Trinity. It arose in Carthage around 170AD, created by pagan philosophers including Tertullian. It is not scriptural and although Constantine demanded that it be accepted at the Council of Nicea in 323AD, they were still fighting about the definition 300 years later. It didn't make sense then and it doesn't make sense now.
THE TRINITY AND THE WORD MONOS whoever believe in the trinity can not be considered a monotheistic person the trinity states that there are separation of persons that means more than one person; Monotheism is a word that means only one God as a person no three persons. THE WORD MONOTHEISM the word : MONOS in the Greek means only one no more than one body. the word : THEISM means God. The word MONOS in Greek never, never is used to Christ as God only to the Father. 1 Timothy 6: 15-16; John 17: 3; 1 Timothy 1: 17; Mark 13: 32 it is not possible to be a Trinitarian and monotheistic at the same time. they are two opposites words.
Now I’m not agreeing with the trinity but in theory, science has proven 3 things can be one. Everything in the universe (except energy) is made of matter, and, so, everything in the universe is made of atoms. An atom itself is made up of three tiny kinds of particles called subatomic particles: protons, neutrons, and electrons...... even are very universe is made of time, space, and matter another 3. Idk but this isn’t really confusing. If you think about it if course
Dear Brother Allen, that is a good understanding of our Creator. Because 'Iron sharpens iron", I encourage you to follow this link and read "Jesus the Christ". Godspeed.
THE TRINITY AND THE WORD MONOS whoever believe in the trinity can not be considered a monotheistic person the trinity states that there are separation of persons that means more than one person; Monotheism is a word that means only one God as a person no three persons. THE WORD MONOTHEISM the word : MONOS in the Greek means only one no more than one body. the word : THEISM means God. The word MONOS in Greek never, never is used to Christ as God only to the Father. 1 Timothy 6: 15-16; John 17: 3; 1 Timothy 1: 17; Mark 13: 32 it is not possible to be a Trinitarian and monotheistic at the same time. they are two opposites words.
@@pedrorodriguez230-e2u Are you a real pastor ? If what’s in your comment is your stand, how do you explain John 1:1 ? Please try to be as brief as possible.
@@pedrorodriguez230-e2u 🔴 ✝️ TRINITY EXPLAINED ... Praise God 🙌🏽 One God ... Father, Son and Holy Spirit ... ONE GOD. 1 ⭕️ There’s the Father God. The ‘Be All and End All’ ... He’s the Generator of the Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit. His OWN Two Other Perceptual and Role based Identities. All Three Are Manifestations Of The One God. He’s OMNIPOTENT, so He is able to do that. And He did. 1 ⭕️There’s “His Word”, Jesus. God the Son. ‘God’s Word’ can only be IDENTICAL TO GOD, right ? Logically, right ? The Word of God is the EXPRESSION OF HIS WILL, right ? That means Him in Essence. God. The Bible. 1 ⭕️ And there’s God’s Spirit, the HG, which can only be God Himself, rationally, logically. Because your spirit is you, right ? And God’s Spirit ... is the same God. That one’s easier than the other true godhead concept that Jesus is God. He was born without a father. THE ONLY ONE IN HISTORY BORN LIKE THAT, without a biological father. His Father is God the Father Himself. So Jesus is DIRECTLY ‘Of’ God. He has God nature. AND THERE’S ONLY ONE GOD. The Bible says that. So what God did on Christmas night is create a Clone of Himself in Jesus. With the Same identical Will. So Jesus is the same God as the Father. And the Holy Spirit. One God. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. One God. The Father is more mysterious relative to the Lord Jesus Christ … Nobody ever saw the Father. But Jesus is very accessible because He was here with us for over 30 years, looking exactly like us … but He’s God nonetheless. It is God come to live with us through becoming like us for a period. Pray about this, and listen to what God tells you about it. Jesus is Lord. God bless you. ✝️💙🙂
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deuteronomy 6:4) our lord is 1 not no 3 in 1 triune God head.. (Mark 12:29) jesus quoted the (Shema) important our Lord is (1) not no 3 in 1 Godhead. (1st corethians 11:3) God is Head of Christ.. Bible head system and trinity is not even mentioned (John 14:28) Jesus says Father is (Greater) then him not equal Trinity.. The trinity is False made up by (Satan the Devil) who is controlling the World right now (1st john 5:19).
@@tiffanywright6653 John 10:30 says I and my father are one. Which make equal to God cuz they’re the same. When Jesus said my father is greater than I he was talking in human form. Philippians 2:5-7 explains this. Jesus also said whoever had seen me have seen my father.So he basically said there’s no difference between him and God .John 1:1 says Jesus is God.
Hey guys I’ll add my 2 cents from the perspective God shown me. The first 3 verses of the Bible explains the trinity in One: In the beginning *God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was formless and empty, and darkness covered the deep waters. And the *Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters. Then God *said, “Let there be *light,” and there was light. Genesis 1:1-3 NLT So where you see the asterisk shows you the 3 persons in one being. Then if you go to John 1 1-5, he then explains how Jesus and God we’re together in the beginning. The word was with God, and the word WAS God
The trinity doctrine is unscriptural. God said, "Is there a God beside Me? .. I know not one" (Isaiah 44:8). The one God being referred to is the Father in heaven. The Lord Jesus said, "Father...that they may know You, the only true God..." (John 17:1, 3). The apostles explained, "yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things.." (I Cor. 8:6). But this truth is hidden in mystery from those outside God's commissioning. Let's study God's words in the IGLESIA NI CRISTO (CHURCH OF CHRIST)
@huhn huhn Jesus is not the Father. Jesus is the Son. And by your scriptures you posted seems to prove the Trinity more than Jesus being the Father. We are not detached, this is from thousand years of church history. And what the apostles also taught in scriptures.
Ralph Joseph Merced Which was not in the original text. The Catholic church forced that one in. Notice Peter and Paul only baptized in the name of the Messiah Yahshua. RESEARCH!!!
Careful Jai, it is indeed in the Scripture. Yes in original it was same in My name, however the other passages, if combined together, says otherwise that indeed, people are going to be baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. That's what the Catholic Church teaches and believes, as it has been since Christ and the Apostles through Apostolic tradition.
For those disclaiming the Holy Spirit...I thought Jesus told his apostles after resurrection that there would be another coming to help them - the Holy Spirit. If this isnt God the Holy Spirit then what is it?
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What's two Gods are one God? The Word and God were the two Gods of John 1:1's definition of God in the beginning. The God became the God of Israel and then the Father of Jesus. The Word became flesh as Jesus, in the form of a servant, was no longer a true God (to worship).
good day No matter how hard you try You believe in three all powerful,All knowing Which is clearly three gods You believe each person is fully god Which makes it three gods Calling me a stupid won’t change the fact
@@3321-u1u It's time to be honest. People need to settle it that MANY CAN BE A ONE. 1st Corinthians 12:12 says a body has many members yet it is one body, even as believers are many members of the one body who is Christ. By Scripture standards believing three Gods are the one God, nor the three disciples Peter, James, and John are the inner circle of Jesus' disciples would be wrong. As Jesus told Saul (later named Paul) Why do you persecute me? When Saul had been persecuting Jesus' disciples and not Jesus physically. I don't agree the Spirit of God is part of the Trinity one God in which three Gods are the one God. God has prepared things for those who love him and reveals them by his Spirit: 'for the Spirit searches all things yes the deep things of God ' to know them to show them the things God has prepared for them that love him. 1st Corinthians 2:9-10. We know that the Spirit of God knows (Greek, knows but not by experience) these things because he is a man [as man was before he had his own material spirit of man within him Genesis 2:7a-d] within God's God material Spirit man body. The fact that God, knowing best, sends or at least the Spirit searches all things yes the deep things of God shows the Spirit of God doesn't know without searching to know them. The Holy Spirit of God is not God nor part of the Godhead nor part of the TRINITY'S one God. The parallel thought is of God's Spirit of God with man's spirit of man is a man even as man's spirit of man is a man who knows (Greek, knows but not by experience) the things of his man because he is within his man (to be able to search all things yes the deep things of his man, as does the Spirit of God within God's material body). 1st Corinthians 2:11a, 1st Corinthians 2:11b. Nowhere in Scripture is it shown that a man's spirit of man is equal to the man except the spirit of man is sent representing him 1st Corinthians 5:4. The Holy Spirit of God is not God nor part of the Godhead nor part of the TRINITY'S one God.
@@muhammedshanushan3931 To make Scripture reconcile there should be an honesty that as many members make up one body 1st Corinthians 12:12 - many members of believers can make up the one body of Christ, as Jesus questioned Saul (later named Paul) Why do you persecute me? when Saul was persecuting his disciples - so many Gods can be honestly understood as one God, even as the many gods of Egypt went by one major name with their individual names. I don't agree that the Spirit of God is one those Gods: 'the Spirit searches all things yes the deep things of God ' to know (Greek, knows but not by experience) the things of God to include the deep things of God unless he searches for them. What God would need to search all things to include the deep things of God to know them? The Holy Spirit of God is not God nor part of the Godhead nor part of the TRINITY'S one God.
The trinity doctrine is unscriptural. God said, "Is there a God beside Me? .. I know not one" (Isaiah 44:8). The one God being referred to is the Father in heaven. The Lord Jesus said, "Father...that they may know You, the only true God..." (John 17:1, 3). The apostles explained, "yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things.." (I Cor. 8:6). But this truth is hidden in mystery from those outside God's commissioning. Let's study God's words in the IGLESIA NI CRISTO (CHURCH OF CHRIST)
This makes no sense. One God, but 3 distinct persons that are all equal. This is like a square circle. And if god the son died, then god died because they are all equal and coexist. Why does god send himself as a sacrafice to pay himself to forgive people. This video only rasies more questions. Such a important part of the faith, yet there is no mention of trinity of in the bible.
You are absolutely right; many Christian denominations that teaches the Trinity. However, notice what the Encyclopedia Britannica states: “Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies.” The true fact is, the God of the Bible is never described as being part of a Trinity. Notice these Bible passages: “Jehovah (Yahweh) our God is one Jehovah.”-Deuteronomy 6:4. “You, whose name is Jehovah (Yahweh) , you alone are the Most High over all the earth.”-Psalm 83:18. “This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.”-John 17:3. “God is only one.”-Galatians 3:20. “My Father is greater than I [Jesus].”-John 14:28. * “I [Jesus] ascend unto my Father, and your Father, and to my God, and your God.”-John 20:17. “To us there is but one God, the Father.”-1 Corinthians 8:6. “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”-1 Peter 1:3. “These things saith the Amen [Jesus], . . . the beginning of the creation of God.”-Revelation 3:14. * "No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him". John 1:18 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Mathew 7:21 "Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One.10 Neither be called leaders, for your Leader is one, the Christ.11 But the greatest one among you must be your minister" Mathew 23.9 "Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’ Mathew 7:22-23
Yes Jesus is the Son of God and not God himself. He has a divine nature and in that sense is called God, but he is a totally separate individual. We are saved by believing that he is the Christ and the son of God and in his atonement, not by believing a man made doctrine such as the trinity.
Because Jesus spoke of the "Father," the "Son" and the "Holy Spirit," the church decided at the Council of Nicene that Jesus must have been referring to "Three Persons in One." Consequently, people pray to the "Father" to ask for benefits, implore the "Holy Spirit" to instruct them spiritually and pray to the "Son" to "save" them from their "sins." Can you begin to "see" how "earthly and humanly conceived" are these beliefs? Can you also see how "emotionally based" they are? Because of the emotionalism and the promise of a "free trip to Heaven on the heels of the Savior," these beliefs have become a humanly conceived religious structure to enshrine an empire of Church within earthly empires - Rome, Austria, Spain. These beliefs have been the excuse for wholesale torture, and death by burning and execution of dissidents. These beliefs have inspired wars between nations. But the "spiritual perception" and "creativity" arising out of some of these beliefs have also contributed much to existence in the past two millennia. These beliefs have been the reasons for building of cathedrals, churches, monasteries, convents, giving people a stable purpose, the ability to express their artistic gifts and provided work for the less talented. These beliefs have also directed millions of the consciousness of people towards the higher realms of beautiful thought and love. These beliefs have even been the impetus behind mysticism and enlightenment when spiritual souls have come to see the Reality previously hidden by these beliefs. While this has been happening, these beliefs have also created the conditions for the development of echelons of religious supremacy and immeasurable grandeur and wealth. These are humanly conceived and created edifices of "Ego-impulses" and are therefore, from a spiritual standpoint - entirely spurious.
Just as Jesus came in human body over 2000 years ago, to rescue the Jewish nation from religious beliefs and practices, so has Jesus returned through the medium of the Christ Letters, A Course In Miracles and A Course Of Love distributed worldwide, to make it abundantly clear that the "Christian Religion" in no way reflects his true CHRIST message either as he taught it in Jerusalem - or at this present time when the Christ Letters, A Course In Miracles and A Course Of Love will arouse the fury and condemnation of orthodox "Christians." The Christian religion, as it stands at this time, is only a hotchpotch of the muddled thinking of the disciples' selective recollections and Paul's worthy homilies and other early writings. Much later, when the impact of Christianity lacked the visual effect of the gods and goddesses of the Romans, the Christian religion was adorned with "theatrical" but "expedient" nonsense to impress those whom the Ecclesiastical Empire of Rome desired to draw into their fold. This empire later imposed monetary burdens on the gullible people even more iniquitous than the taxes demanded by the secular Roman Empire on conquered nations. Even Caesar did not demand payment for souls to gain entrance to heaven! You may wonder why Jesus is so explicit in his rejection of "Judaism" and "Christianity." It is vital to the success of the distribution of his CHRIST MESSAGE that Christians should fully understand the true nature of religions which held humankind in their grip until the 20th century. Therefore, until Christians do realize the mythical foundations on which they have placed all their convictions, Christians will find it difficult to let go of cherished beliefs. Please understand that when Jesus makes such statements, he is referring to "Christian religion," to the "tenets of faith," to the "dogma and theology." Jesus is not referring to those great spiritual souls who have sought - and continue to seek God and Truth beyond the dogma and beliefs. Jesus knows Christians have received the inspiration of God into their minds and hearts but are afraid to let go of cherished beliefs. Christians are hampered by religious beliefs and practices. But the time has come for Christians to let them go and grow in spirituality and awareness of the true SOURCE of BEING.
Friend, listen to Jesus. This man is a false teacher, a wolf. Jesus taught us to beware, so beware. Jesus also said that the only true God is His Father. John 17:1-3 So did Paul in 1 Corinthians 6:8. Who will you believe when your eternal life is on the line. Jesus or Allan?
The trinity makes so much sense because: Whenever God wants to do something with his almighty he first wills it, then he does it. That’s how God always works, first willing something and then doing it. For example: How does God make it that he is eternal. He does the following. First God wills to be eternal and then he uses the power to realize this will. so the commandment that God gave himself to be eternal has always existed, he never created it, it has always been there. He can’t just create the commandment to be eternal. Also, the power of God which implements this commandment that he is eternal has always existed, he never created it. He can’t just create the power that makes him eternal So these things have always existed: God, the word of God (Jesus) and the power of God that implements the word of God (Holy Spirit) Only God is eternal because to be eternal you have to be omnipotent , that is why the word of God and the power of God that implements his word (Holy Spirit) are God. That’s why the the Bible makes soooo much sense when it says In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. It makes soooo much sense why there HAS TO BE three persons that are one God, and not only one person. If there is an omnipotent being it has to be always triunion otherwise it can’t exist
Go look up where the trinity originated. You might be surprised. It was formed in 325 AD. Not in the original transcripts of the Bible. My Bible says don’t add to or take away from the Word
This wasn't God's words sister this message is of the devil. God isn't a trinity and anyone who believes that will be thrust into hell. I wanna ask u, is father a name? Or son a name? Or holy spirit? Those are titles not name the name who holds all those titles is Jesus the christ.
I didn't think so either. I checked his website the other day before I did this video and his doctrinal statement still had "manifestations" instead of "Persons" in the description so that let me know that he hadn't. Thank you for the confirmation Cindy.
@@thebeatagp Has TD Jakes said that he is a modalist? Just because someone believes in 3 manifestations of 1 God doesn't mean that they are restricted to one manifestation at a time
The Prophecy of Isaiah (ref. Isaiah. 9:6) has not yet been fulfilled... WHY?... the Prophecy said (in part), "The GOVERNMENT shall be (future tense) upon HIS (Christ Jesus) shoulder,"... WHEN will this be?... During Christ Jesus' MILLENNIAL REIGN of (1000-Year) Rule upon the Earth with an IROD ROD... Christ Jesus will be called/addressed on Earth the TITLES... "Wonderful COUNSELOR, Mighty GOD, Everlasting FATHER, Prince of PEACE, (King of KINGS, Lord or LORDS) and will NOT be addressed as PRESIDENT, or PRIME MINISTER, or HAIL CAESAR, nor Mighty/Powerful EMPEROR, etc... Take Note #1: ...those names given by Prophet Isaiah were TITLES during Christ's Millennial Reign on Earth (not in Heaven) and NOT GOD's "State of DIVINITY and NATURE"... Take Note #2: ...Even though Christ Jesus has ALL the AUTHORITY on Earth and in Heaven given by His Father God... (ref. Matt. 28:18)... Father God (YHWH) still holds ALL the POWER to Rule/Reign Heavens and Earth, even over His own begotten SON, forever... FATHER GOD (YHWH) will forever RULE/REIGN the HEAVENS... The Son/Word/Christ will always be on the RIGHT HAND/SIDE of His Father God's (YHWH's) TRHONE eternally... for Christ Jesus (Word/Son) is NOT Father God (YHWH) HIMSELF... God is not ABSOLUTE ONE... Take Note #3: ...God is the TRUTH who does not CHANGE (Identities) forever/eternally... (ref. Malachi 3:6)... God does not LIE, CLAIM, PRETEND, or DISGUISE someone HE is not. Facts and Truth of the matters, Biblically and Logically speaking... Praise be to God in Christ. Amen.
I agree. My way of explaining the trinity is: we are made in the likeness of God. God is perfect and we are imperfect. So just as we have a body, spirit, and soul, God also has 3 parts, in a more perfected way. Because He is perfect, He can exist and work simultaneously in all 3 - unlike us, we can only really be conscious in one at a time. My soul, spirit, and body are not the same, they function differently, they have different jobs, etc, but all 3 are me. I believe in a more perfected sense, this is what the trinity is.
Thank you brother Allen! People have been arguing with me on this subject & this is what I’ve been telling people But they’re keep saying GOD , JESUS, THE HOLY SPIRIT are the same person & you can pray to all 3. Scripture never says pray to JESUS or the HOLY SPIRIT. Aren’t we lead by the HOLY SPIRIT, saved by the blood of JESUS & our relationship to the FATHER through CHRIST?
You are correct. Many haven’t received that revelation. Matthew 16:16-18 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Hey am Richard and I would want you to clarify some statement for me 1. The word distinct refers to one being different in characteristics so therefore what do you mean they are distinct being 2. I would like you to defend the Us in Gen 1:26? 3. I believe God is one he only works or let me say manifest himself in three different ways at the same time of which makes me accept the usage of the word coexist But i want to call your attention that God is One person and he manifested himself like I said earlier cos he has the power to Or let me use these illustration to get it better He's similar to we Human in three manifestation which Body,Soul and Spirit but that does not mean we are three person we are one person What am just bringing out in essence is that we need to carefully check the word we use in describing God I for one do not accept the word personality because it literally means differences of which in the Godhead there's no difference just a Personality in three different manifestation at the same time How is what we don't know because he's Great
Because the majority of Christianity down through time are not baptized In the biblically explicit narrative of the Scripture. It is stunning when you see all the scriptures set apart for how people are to be baptized (NOT in tradition or even in the one scripture that is in Matthew.... but what the Bible actually captures as how Christians were baptized -without exception. And it has been lost. And this is without denial or question no matter who it is. Because denial of it is flat out wrong. And I'm a "Trinitarian". Every other addressing of this problem... falls flat. After the immediate presence and vicinity of original belief, It has been lost in time. And only a few have been baptized in that way. Luke 13:23 ESV And someone said to him, "Lord, will those who are saved be few?"....
@@scottcarter1689 I see verses that talk about both Trinity and Oneness. Both teachings show truth and BOTH have false teachings. I do not care about what everyone is doing. I let the verses teach me and I care about God. His GRACE is sufficient.
Teaching Kingdom Truth NYC John 1-5-7 the 1st chapter of John’s gospel. Not saying he referenced the above but these are Basic truths of “Christian”doctrine. Now the question is are you a “Christian” are you new age or are u apart of a non Christian cult Hebrew Israelites or whatever..... you might want to sit down with your pastor and go over biblical doctrines before you address or troll. Have a good 1.
Sir Douglas you said this basic "Christian" doctrine? You mean "Catholic" Doctrine. This 3 Gods as 1 does not exist, there is only one God the Father 1COR 8:6. Nowhere in the Holy Scriptures do you see "GOD THE SON" or "GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT", only GOD THE FATHER. I do identify as a Christian, but i dont use that Blasphemous Latin name JESUS to call upon him, go to my channel you will see why. 100%proof. This video proves the Trinity false th-cam.com/video/ZpGyhoYTLXU/w-d-xo.html Please listen this will bless you and explain the truth. Grace and Peace.
Teaching Kingdom Truth NYC straw man argument family I never said 3gods or mentioned Roman Catholicism there’s 1 God anything more is polytheism.... Hopefully you know the difference from being and person also you’re all over the place bringing in different opinions on what I first stated.... for the sake of argument I believe 1 God 3 persons that’s number 1 2. We say Jesus or Yahweh or Yesus Christos it’s not Latin it’s derived from the Greek might want to study that out sir. 3. Your page doesn’t edify nor feed the flock or Gods elect.. your argumentative and u major in the minors attacking non Christian cults who don’t hold to true biblical teachings ... the Trinity is proven biblical doctrine JESUS wasn’t a ventriloquist.... Idk who’s teaching your under you might want to reevaluate your situation. Allen said this at 1.09 mark of the video listen to it again.
Peace be with him for lying to people? This brother isn't saved and needs to repent for all this lie he teaching on social media. All who follows these lies will die in there sin
Well, for us to know God we need scriptures as said in 2 Peter 1 vs 20-21 which reads: 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. This means that if we compare and study scriptures, we get answers and teachings on all Spiritual matters including the Trinity, also because 1 John 4 vs 1 says: 1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. This gives the Bible the power to judge prophets, doctrines, philosophies and sermons spoken to enhance Christianity, so if we say this topic (of the Trinity) cannot be easily understood by mortals or should I say, "the finite cannot understand the infinite", then 1 John 4vs 1 should be altered so that the Bible is not to be used to accept prophets, teachers doctrines and anything taught to christians. Therefore, I believe the Trinity should be explained using Bible verses more, for instance the Topic "Jesus died for our sins" cannot be taught without verses that; prophesied of His coming, outlined His mission and proved His accomplishment of the mission, this is meant to show that God planned for the coming of Jesus to die for our sins so as to refute any notions by people that a man just died then Christians want to claim a random act to make it their doctrine. Now on trinity, I have only managed to see quotes of pieces of scripture, then when I read the entire chapter, I find that the context is different from the one given in trying to explain the existence of the 'Trinity concepts' in the Bible. Also, if the Trinity is central to Christian Faith why can't we explain and defend it Biblically? I also have a problem on the co-equal concept of the Trinity members, because Jesus prayed to God which means He is inferior to the one He prayed to; then the Holy Spirit is sent which means the one who sends is more powerful; again, Jesus and the Holy spirit have a mission to honor God, give praise to God, convict people of God's word, accomplish God's mission and plan for mankind as well as to bring people to God. So basically, Jesus and the Holy spirit work for God. Jesus once said, 'all that I do I saw from my Father'; and He also said, 'I bear witness to my Father', this means that Jesus' instructions and references was not His but the Father's, a sign that they are not equal. So, this doctrine, issue or concept called Trinity should be explained using scriptures so that 1 John 4 vs 1 will not be used to dismiss the trinitarian doctrine.
IT CAN BE EXPLAINED. THE TRINITY WAS INTRODUCED COURTESY OF THE CATHOLIC INSTITUTION IN 325 AD AT THE COUNCIL OF NICEA THIS CAN BE PROVEN USING A GOOD OL LAP TOP, THE TEACHING OF THE TRINITY ALWAYS COMES AFTER A PERSON IS TAUGHT "THE SINNERS PRAYER" ACCEPTING OR RECIEVING CHRIST AS ANYTHING IS NEVER FOUND IN THE BIBLE, EVERY COVERSION THAT IS WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE IS ACCORDING TO ACTS 2;38 REPENTANCE FOLLOWED BY BAPTIZM IN THE NAME(SINGULAR) OF JESUS CHRIST FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS, FOLLED BY RECIEVING THE HOLY GHOST, GODS OWN SPIRIT, JESUS DECLARES HE HIMSELF AS THE OMNIPRESENT GOD IN JOHN 3;13 ISAIAH 9;6 IS TOO CLEAR AS IS ROMANS 14;10-12 CHAPTERS 10 AND 11 OF ACTS ARE THE FOREVER RECORD OF HOW "WE" GENTILES ENTER THIS BEAUTIFUL PICTURE CALLED CHRISTIANITY PAUL THE APOSTLE WAS BAPTIZED AND SAYS IT IN HIS OWN WORDS IN ACTS 22;16, PREACHES IT IN ACTS 19;1-7 TWICE IN ACTS 16 JESUS SAID AFTER HIS RESURRECTION" HE THAT BELIEVES "AND " IS BAPTIZED SHALL BE SAVED BUT HE THAT BELIEVES NOT SHALL BE DAMNED MARK 16;16 1 PETER 3;21 OUTRIGHT SAYS BAPTIZM "SAVES US" NOT THE WATER BUT THE "SINGULAR NAME OF JESUS CHRIST" THE DEVILS KNOW THIS: JAMES 2;19 GALATIANS 3;26-27 SHOW NOT JUST FAITH BY ITSELF BUT THAT FAITH ALWAYS OBEYS
Ps. 2:7 says "Thou art my Son; This day have I begotten thee." To anyone WITH a brain, this is telling them that the Son did NOT yet exist as the Son!!!!!!! STOP and THINK for a moment.
Thank you for this! Also, concerning your statement on the Mormon and Jehovah's Witness cults, in the very first sentence written in our Bibles, "In the beginning GOD created...", the word "GOD" in the original Hebrew is "Elohim", PLURAL! In the Book of Hebrews, Chapter 1, verse 8, we see GOD the Father referring to His Son Jesus as "GOD". Also in Psalms 2:7, Acts 13:33, 2 Samuel 7:14, and many other references. It's SO IMPORTANT because "There is none other Name under Heaven given among men whereby we must be saved." JESUS! THIS IS John's "Revelation", that JESUS IS GOD!
I agree Allen Parr, I was just discussing this about a month ago and there are alot of christains who believe in the holy trinity. They are different in the roles that they are in. Thank you for the word that God puts in your spirit to share.
Theres only one God and he is not a plurality of persons JESUS said search the scriptures for in them you think you have eternal life. The trinity is a doctrine hatched in hell and it will send you to hell JESUS said you will die in your sins if you don't believe He is God of the Old Testament John 8:24 JESUS reveals God in all of His fullness Col 2:9
@@rogerthompson4379 Bible says The Father is God The Son is God The Holy Spirit is God Yet the Bible says there is only one God How do you reconcile this? The Trinity
Hi. Please help me, so how do we worship them together as in one God? Or automatically when you worship Jesus you also worshiping God and the Holy Spirit at the same time?
No, Jesus says to worship God (the Father ) only, not him or the Holy Spirit. *John 4:21* Jesus said to her: “Believe me, woman, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. *John 4:23* Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him. *John 4:24* God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him (not us or them) must worship with spirit and truth.” *Revelation 19:10* At that I fell down before his feet to worship him. But he tells me: “Be careful! Do not do that! I am only a fellow slave of you and of your brothers who have the work of witnessing concerning Jesus. Worship God! For the witness concerning Jesus is what inspires prophecy.”
THEIR IS NO TRINITY, YOU CAN'T SEPARATE THEM , JESUS SAID IN JOHN 14:9-11 THAT IF YOU'VE SEEN ME ,YOU'VE SEEN THE FATHER, FOR WE ARE ONE, SPIRIT , FATHER SON HOLY GHOST ONE SPIRIT PERIOD
So when Jesus is baptized. Jesus is in the water. We hear a voice saying “this is my Beloved Son in who I am well pleased.” Was that Jesus talking to Himself?
No, Jesus is God’s representative on earth, being the only human to achieve perfection and be a perfect temple of God. You could, by analogy, liken a perfect human (a human one with God in heart) to being the physical body of God, and God the mind of said body, and thus you could say when you see Jesus that you saw God, but he is not literally God himself. Jesus calls God ‘Father’, and God called him ‘Son’, at the cross Jesus said ‘my God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?’ With these words Jesus confirms he is talking to someone separate from him. Much of the Bible is symbolic, metaphorical, and poetic.
No, he was talking to the real God, his Father. The trinity is a false doctrine, that's why so many say it's a 'mystery'. The Bible was written for us to understand, and not confuse people. The trinity does nothing more than waste time arguing about something that is not mentioned once anywhere in the Bible, it's a total fraud. Pray to God THROUGH Jesus, and that will be fine.
Colossians 1:15 KJV - Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: Revelation 3:14 KJV - And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; Who is this?
Hey family, I enjoy these discussions immensely as they spur us on to truly consider and understand the great faith that we have. With that being said, please remember the principle of Deut. 29:29 which says, "The secret things of the Lord belong to the Lord." There are just certain things we will NOT understand until we get to heaven. So for us to assume we, in our FINITE minds, could understand an INFINITE God is certainly out of the question. We accept what the word of God says and don't discount it just because it may be beyond our ability to understand. Much love,
THE BEAT by Allen Parr this my respone to this video th-cam.com/video/Fo7ab7Mpz94/w-d-xo.html all you did was prove the Trinity is false.
THE BEAT by Allen Parr someone said to me one time when I tried to explain the trinity that the Old Testament does not mention a triune God at all? What do you think?
Teaching Kingdom Truth NYC first off thank you for taking the time to watch my video and share your thoughts. I watched most of your video but did not get a chance to finish watching it. Here is my perspective. I think you’re trying to approach God from more of a logic or reason perspective. And anything that doesn’t make logical sense to you, you throw out. Because you cannot wrap your mind around how God could be both three and one, you say that the Trinity is not biblical. But let me ask you this. Can you fully comprehend and understand how Jesus can be both fully man and fully God? As God challenged Job, can you explain how the planets were formed and how gravity works? So you would agree that there are many things about God that we will not be able to comprehend in our finite minds. The Trinity is one of those things. Can you fully explain how predestination and man’s free will also harmonize? The answer to these questions is obviously no. But we would agree that the Bible teaches both free will and predestination. The Bible clearly teaches that God exists in three persons. And there is ample proof in the Bible that each person is God. There is also ample proof that there is only one God and that we do not believe in many gods. So I think once you approach God from more of a faith perspective rather than trying to figure everything out, I think you’ll be on the right track. Thank you buddy,
datchet11 there as signs of it such as in genesis when God said let “us” make man I. “Our” image. How can we explain that? Why did he not say let me make man in my own image? Also there is pre-incarnate appearances of Jesus Christ in the OT. Finally John 1:1 confirms that Jesus existed eternally as well.
datchet11 The New Testement doesn't mention a triune God either, just 1 God the Father, his Word, His Spirit. Thats Bible.
God - God
Jesus - God with us
Holy Spirit - God in us
Amen. The first one is God above all
Best explanation so far. Thankyou for i am no longer confused. God bless.
@@spirostathos5074 Amen.
A D where the father?
Jose_xForward Jose_xForward God the Father is God above all.
Son of God is God with us (Immanuel).
Holy Spirit is God in us.
Father = God is Above All
Jesus= God with us (in Human nature )
Holy Spirit = God in us (In Spirit )
Simple as that! I don't understand why people argue about this
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Makes much sense
Nat Genesis
Jesus is now the God and Father of all to the church which is his body the fulness of him that fills all in all' Ephesians 1:22-23.
1st Corinthians 15:28
Hear o Israel the LORD our God is one LORD' is part of the first of the commandments in the law Matthew 22:35-36-37, Mark 12:29-30 'love God with all your heart and with all your mind and with all your soul and with all your strength' and the second is like namely this love your neighbor as yourself' Matthew 22: 38-40.
To have eternal life is to keep the second summary of the law 'love your neighbor as yourself' Matthew 19:15-19.
The New Testament law, commandment is believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another as he gave commandment' 1st John 3:22-23.
Some of us can’t understand Algebra. I’m going to keep it simple, it’s real and I’m putting my trust in God.
I know it's like
laying out a formula
for a rafter for a house
run and rise equals
hypotenuse or rafter
length...the angle...
of the pitch or slope...
It's this formula that's
related to the trinity doctrine
Lol , blind faith
The Trinity is a lie nd is dead, Algebra takes understanding. And is real.
@huhn huhn What has all this as to do with 3 gods?
Don’t compare Algebra with your trinity BS concept.
I love this Channel it helped me alot , this channel challenge me alot in my walk with Jesus , and i can testify i have grown spiritually watching Brother Allen , the hunger to study my bible was born here , and i can say i have really become a STUDENT of God’s word . Thank you The Beat love from Namibia love❤
Elohim Bible verse
Jesus said it Himself: "My Father is greater than I" (John 14:28). The word "God" here is Elohim. It says, "The LORD our Elohim is one LORD." Ta plural noun ." Elohim is the plural of both El and Eloah.
The Trinty if you look at 1 EGG You see the shell And if you crack it open you will see a yolk and you will see the white 3 IN ONE SO EASY TO SEE ,,
@@theodoreritola7641 You keep looking for something material to compare with God. God cannot be compared to anything. God the creator is the most high as Psalm 83:18 says. That’s where Asaph is describing Jehovah as the most high so Jehovah is and always will be the most high. There is no way around that.
God isn't weak, dependent or ignorant as Jesus was, also God doesn't need to pray to God and beg him for help like Jesus did.
Don't worship a brown middle-eastern man that never asked to be worshipped or EVER said "I am God"
@@jimmypaiva5991
2 - 4 - 24
#1
The Letter "" J "" was NOT USED prior to the 13th century it was ADDED to the English language because MOST people don't speak Hebrew
#2
You will NOT find the
Letter "" J "" in ANY GREEK manuscript or in the
Dead Sea Scrolls
#3
I have no problem using the words
Jehovah or Jesus
But to say that EMPHATICALLY the name of God is Jehovah is
Jehovah's Witnesses rhetoric
#4
The GODHEAD is explained in the New Testament as
( Three distinct persons ALL the SAME ONE TRUE GOD ) from eternity past to eternity future
1st Corinthians 12 : 4 - 6
The Holy Spirit is the
SAME ONE TRUE GOD
( CHARISMATA )
Jesus Christ is the
SAME ONE TRUE GOD
( DIAKONIA )
The Father is the
SAME ONE TRUE GOD
( ENERGEMATA )
( Three distinct persons ALL the SAME ONE TRUE GOD ) from eternity past to eternity future
"Lean NOT on your OWN understanding" Proverbs 3:5
The ultimate copout verse in the bible. Praise, worship and trust God without understanding why.
I dont think Allen understands who Jesus was at all.
It is one thing to look upon Jesus (quite rightly) as an object of worship, a god if you like, but to bestow upon Him a status equal to that of The Father is totally against the teaching of the Bible.
I am not suggesting that Jesus was merely a man, or an Angel of God. He was uniquely the Son of God. In the Bible He is never referred to as God the Son. This is a church title for Him. We read in John 1- 'we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father...'
Jesus said in John 14- 'My Father is greater than I'. The standard trinitarian response to this is usually along the lines- 'while He was on earth, He was subject to the Father', yet the same trinitarians quote John 10:30- 'I and My Father are one' as proof of His equality with the Father!!! Its not difficult to see the contradiction here. In John 10, Jesus is clearly talking about being one in purpose and mind with His Father. The context is the salvation of the sheep and a careful reading of this passage shows that Jesus was not claiming any kind of equal status with the Father.
This is supported elsewhere in Johns gospel (7:16-18; 12:49,50; 8:28,42; 13:16; etc). A careful and humble consideration of these words of Jesus will leave us with no doubt about Him being subservient to His Father. It is clear that Jesus is not stating this relationship with His Father as applying for just a part of His life.
The Apostle Paul clearly understood this subservient aspect of The Lords relationship with His Father and taught it to the Gentiles (I Corinthians 8:6; 11:3; 15:24-28; I Timothy 2:5; Ephesians 4:6; 5:20; etc). Note also the way in which Paul begins most of his Letters (as does Peter and John)- 'Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ'. How is it possible to read all the references above and conclude that Jesus was in any way equal to The Father.
The writer to the Hebrews (chpt 1) gives clarity to the elevated position of Jesus when He says that 'God has spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things ...Jesus having become so much better than the Angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. For to which of the Angels did He ever say: You are My Son, Today I have begotten You? ...let all the Angels of God worship Him ...Your throne O God is for ever and ever'. It is clear that this elevated status is given to Jesus from His Father, but it is also clear, that Jesus has not been given a position equal to His Father. It goes on to say- 'You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; therefore God, YOUR GOD, has anointed You with the oil of gladness more than your companions'.
The doctrine of the Trinity stands on the premise of the equality of The Father and The Son. THIS DOCTRINE IS CLEARLY FALSE, even though it is believed by the vast majority of christians. To this I would say, look to the words of Jesus in the Gospel of Matthew (7:13-15).
Jesus Christ was The Son of God and is the Mediator of Gods Covenant of Peace to all who would believe in Him.
@@dave6148 I don't think that you have the Spirit of Christ unfortunately........
How GOD redeemed HIS Church? Through HIS Blood - Acts 20:28.............
Also Isaiah 9:6, Zechariah 12:10, Revelation 1:7-18..........................
Titus 2:13 waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ
If you don't believe in JESUS as LORD GOD you are NOT of HIS sheep!
May the Son of God (the WORD/the MEMRA) reveal HIS DIVINITY to you in HIS Name (YHWH YESHUA), AMEN!
Jesus IS IN the O.T. as the MEMRA (the WORD)! In the O.T. God HIMSELF appear in VISIBLE Form/s (in HIS MEMRA/the SON and in the Shekinah of His MEMRA/the Spirit of Christ)
Believe on the LORD (YHWH) Jesus Christ and you and your household will be saved. - Acts 16:31
Elohim bless you and your family!
@@НатанаилСталев-ф2р if you care to read all the Bible passages that I referred to, you will see that Jesus is most definitely not co-equal to The Father - so where does that leave the false doctrine of the trinity?
Like the equally corrupted doctrine of the Immortal Soul, this is a paganised invention of the Catholic church, unfortunately accepted blindly by its daughters.
Read those passages together- THEN tell me where you think I've got it wrong
@@dave6148 The FIRST Christians are from the FIRST century (Acts 11), NOT from the 4 century!!!!
The FIRST Christians (including the 12 Disciples of the Lord Himslef - YESHUA) WORSHIP the Son of God, they all know very well that the Son of God is the ALMIGHTY LORD coming down from the Heaven.............
You follow religion, BUT the TRUE followers of CHRIST (YHWH) are NEW CREATIONS!
Jesus is God whether i, you or anyone believes or not, PERIOD!!!
Every knee will bow before YHWH JESUS (YHWH is El Shaddai - Exodus 6:3) - Isaiah 45:23/Philippians 2:10
May LORD YHWH YESHUA have mercy on your soul!
The HOLY Trinity, the Eternal Security and the Rapture are BIBLICAL, HalleluYAH (Praise JESUS)!
1 Cor. 12:3 Because of this, I make known unto you that there is no man, who by The Rukha d'Alaha {The Spirit of God}, will speak and say that Eshu {Yeshua} is accursed, and also no man is able to say that MarYa {The Lord-YHWH} is Eshu {Yeshua}, except by The Rukha d’Qudsha {The Spirit of Holiness/The Holy Spirit}.
Shalom!
STEPHEN!!!!!! He experienced the Trinity.
“Now when they heard these things they were enraged, and they ground their teeth at him. But he, full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. And he said, "Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God."”
Acts 7:54-56 ESV
He saw the Father and Son side by side. While the Holy Spirit filled him. This verse is distinct in identifying the Trinity at work.
Jarel Washington what is a spirit by Bible definition? Because the definition has to match other scripture....line upon line. For instance when Jesus breathed on his disciples in John 20:22 and said receive ye the holy ghost what was happening? You see scripture such as this doesn't support a Trinity
So you see a 3 in one God here? Why is Jesus or h/s never seen on a "throne". Why is the H/s never seen in a heavenly vision in all the bible.? Your desire to stay in your comfort Zone is showing. Read my lengthy treatise above and think again.
Jarel Washington No because what he saw was only God and Jesus. The Holy Spirit was never there as some claim, for he, Stephen had seen 2 persons just as Zechariah had seen 2 copper mountains, or the very fact John saw 2 names.
Jarel Washington so how many Thrones are in Heaven
It was the time of the holy spirit in operation remember jesus said that the comforter wouldn't come until he ascended up to the father
Thank you Jesus for your miracles in my life. You are the best doctor
Invisible God - The Father
His Eternal Word - The Son
His Infinite Love - The Holy Spirit.
But all three persons are One God
@@reginaldking9906 amen
Trinity is pagans
@@jerrypeter7616 Fake News
Yep. I would add God, the "essence" of God, the part that has no "person" features, only "being" features.
That one is omnipresence, while God as Father is Above, as Son is with us, as Holy Spirit is in us, but God as "only" God is everywhere.
We must take everything from the bible by faith. We don't have to understand everything about it. Just receive it. ☺
Unless a certain doctrine has its ORIGINS in Roman Catholic/Greek Mythology. God bless you, good brother.
We don’t have to understand it??????
Really!!!??
So what does it mean when Jesus said in Matthew 22:37
And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind."
@@raygabrelcik2578 Yep!
It’s true because God is so great past comprehension.
The thing is, trinity is not part of the Bible. Jesus taught that His Father is the only true God. John 17:1-3
Man at first, I thought Denzel Washington has now gone preaching God's word. God bless your life, man!
His little brother!
"GOD GIVES MESSAGE TO CHRISTIANS:"
*Most certainly they committed blasphemy, who said, "God is one of the three": whereas there is no deity other than the One Deity. And if these people do not desist from uttering such words, a painful chastisement shall be inflicted on all those from among them who have been guilty of blasphemy. Will they not, then, turn to Allah and ask His pardon?* *Allah is very Forgiving and Compassionate.*
Qur’an Chep 5 [73-74]
[Jesus said],
*“And indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.”*
Qur’an 19:36
*Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord.* (Mark 12:29)
"Jesus(PBUH) Conversation with God on the judgment day:"
*And ˹on Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?”*
He will answer,
*“Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say?*
*If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it.*
*You know what is ˹hidden˺ within me, but I do not know what is within You.* *Indeed, You ˹alone˺ are the Knower of all unseen.*
I never told them anything except what You ordered me to say:
*“Worship Allah-my Lord and your Lord!” And I was witness over them as long as I remained among them. But when You took me, You were the Witness over them-and You are a Witness over all things.*
*If You punish them, they belong to You after all. But if You forgive them, You are surely the Almighty, All-Wise.*
*Allah will declare, “This is the Day when ˹only˺ the faithful will benefit from their faithfulness.*
*Theirs are Gardens under which rivers flow, to stay there for ever and ever. Allah is pleased with them and they are pleased with Him. That is the ultimate triumph.*
*To Allah ˹alone˺ belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and everything within. And He is Most Capable of everything.*
Quran Al-Ma'idah Chep 5 Verse (116-120)
*Its very clear that Jesus (PBUH) was a messanger of Allah and he taught people to worship only one Allah without any partners.*
*Worship only Allah without any partners.*
*Our creator is only one Allah.*
*There is no God except Allah* *and Muhammad (ﷺ) is his last* *and final messanger.*
lol fr
@@Iamthewarner557 God said about Jesus in Matthew 17:5 “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Hear Him!”
There is one God, yes. And He came to earth in the likeness of human flesh so that he could pay what we couldn't pay. This was Jesus, God come to us in the flesh to take away the sins of the whole world. Jesus said in John 14:6, "I am the way, the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." He also said in John 10:30, "I and the Father are One."
The Jews he was talking to made the same mistake as you. They didn't know that God the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are all One. Just like we have one sun in the sky. Even though the sun has three distinct parts--the light rays, the heat rays, and the chemical rays--it is one sun.
Likewise, there is one God with three distinct parts. Jesus said in John 12:45, "The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me." It is like if God was an ocean of water. Jesus could be compared to a water jar full of the same ocean water. The body is different, but what's on the inside is from the same ocean. God loves you. He wants to give you peace and forgiveness.
Romans 10:9-13 says:
that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. 13 For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
I love you and Jesus loves you ever more. If you turn to Jesus, He will free your heart. Ask him if this is true. Ask him if he is the One.
@@Iamthewarner557 pls leave why are u even here?
Thank you, Brother Allen, for this video. This helped me a lot, especially knowing what the Trinity was. At first, I was confused, but when I watched your video, I finally had peace. God bless you!
I'm trying really hard to understand but this just confused me even more ☹️
Ur having a hard time understanding becuz there is only one GOD there is no Trinity
THIS VIDEO IS FALSE, THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD, NOT 3 PERSONS, MODERN CHRISTIANITY HAS BECOME PAGANISM AT ITS FINEST
@@cam0987 can you further elaborate, I want to know more about what you commented.
@@ArcticSeraph God is very simple to understand, there should not be any complexity in such a case
@@ArcticSeraph I'll explain it to you. When people talk of "God," they're either conflating the nature with the "person" (which is heresy) or using it as shorthand for "God the Father."God in Christianity is a "nature" or "substance" that exists in 3 distinct persons. All of them are God, but they are still unique persons. Think of it like this: God is like identical triplets. Although identical triplets are three different people, they all LITERALLY share ONE DNA. Genetically they are identical, but are you going to look at three triplets and say they aren't 3 different people? Of course not. So it's the same with "God." God is this "divine DNA" that manifests in 3 different "people." They are not each other, but they are all one "God." It might be a little bit confusing, but once you understand the differences between "person" and "essence" it makes sense.
One very clear God Himself gave us: every HUMAN is a trinity...created in the image and likeness of God... We are 1.Body, 2. Mind, and 3. Spirit.... Three aspects comprising one whole...
Wowwwww! IM MINDBLOWN. Isnt the Lord so smart in everything that he does!!
So the body would be Jesus, the mind would be God and the spirit the Holy Spirit?
Right 😁?
@@sabrina3138 Hebrews 3:1 Consequently, brothers set apart, partakers of a most exalted position, consider the apostle and high priest of our declaration, Jesus Christ, 2 faithful to Him Who created him, as Moses also was in all his house. 3 For he has been counted worthy of more eminence than Moses, since the one having constructed it has more honour than the house. 4 For every house is built by somebody, but He Who built all things is God. 5 And Moses was indeed faithful in all his house as a servant, for a testimony of those things going to be spoken afterwards.
6 Christ, though, is faithful as a son over his house, whose house we are, if we hold fixed the firm confidence and the rejoicing of the hope until the end.
The trinity doctrine is unscriptural. God said, "Is there a God beside Me? ..
I know not one" (Isaiah 44:8). The one God being referred to is the Father in heaven. The Lord Jesus said, "Father...that they may know You, the only true God..." (John 17:1, 3). The apostles explained, "yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things.." (I Cor. 8:6). But this truth is hidden in mystery from those outside God's commissioning. Let's study God's words in the IGLESIA NI CRISTO (CHURCH OF CHRIST)
When they were preaching the Trinity in church, my little one asked "So which God do I pray to?"
I finally came to my senses.
Matthew 11:25 Jesus said "I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise & intelligent and have revealed them to infants." The kingdom of heaven belongs to people like these children. Matthew 19:14
The gospels they hid from us (by the miracle of God found this generation) - have warnings not to associate any names to God, as that would lead ppl astray. God has no name known to man in this world. We are all born with a conscience & the knowledge in our heart that there is one God our Creator & we call him God in whichever language we know. It is really simple & straightforward. It is man who teach that God's name is another & fanciful theories of the Trinity, old/new convenant.
Amen brother
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You are correct. The bible never said trinity. That has always been a pagan belief since Babylon
That's the truth sister there is only one God these trinatarians don't realize to believe in 3 person's is idolatry, the Lord God is one Lord, they lean to their own understanding instead to Gods word, they have fanciful theories and can use their reasoning and logic and try to get it to "make sense" but it is false and started at the nicean council by the roman catholic church. The God of the Bible always was one same with water baptism people can't see how simple it is, the Name of Father, Son and Holy Ghost is none other than the Lord Jesus Christ. Not one apostle ever baptized any other way than the name Jesus Christ, because Father is not a name, son is not a name and Holy Spirit is not a name, it is what it is his name is Jesus Christ. People want to argue about it but he has hid it from the wise and prudent and revealed it to babes such as would learn.
@@moyreyes3508 John 10;30 “I and my Father are one.”
John 10;38 “But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.”
Jesus claim to be God.
In this passage, the word “Lord” is translated from the word “Jehovah.”
It says, “Jehovah our Elohim is one.”
Jehovah is singular.
Elohim is plural.
The word “echad” is the word for “one.”
It does not mean a singular one but a collective one.
Genesis 2:24
Husband and wife are a collective one.
Genesis 11:6
All the people were called “one people.”
Numbers 13:23
A bunch of grapes but “one cluster.”
1 Samuel 13:17
One company of people.
1 Chronicles 17:21
“One nation.”
These passages are referring to one as a unity.
Jehovah our Elohim is one (a unity).
Great breakdown 😃🙏🏽 the problem with certain doctrines about explaining who God is is that too many people are trying to figure God out with human understanding. Only He can truly explain Himself to each individual, so pray and ask for clarity and truth on the matter rather than arguing/falling out with your neighbour/brothers and sisters in Christ🤦🏽♀️ Anyway that’s not even what saves your soul, our eternal life depends on believing that Jesus Christ, the son of God (through His death and resurrection) brought man’s redemption and a way out from eternal damnation, He is the way the truth and the life, the one who reconnects us back to the Father! Just because something doesn’t make sense, doesn’t make it wrong, it just means we have to seek God truly for who He is with all our hearts in prayer and studying the word of God despite the many philosophies, theologies and theories constructed by man. Regardless, we’ll never have God figured out but we can only trust that He’ll reveal what’s important and lead us to eternal life.
Love this ❤️
The trinity makes so much sense because:
Whenever God wants to do something with his almighty he first wills it, then he does it. That’s how God always works, first willing something and then doing it.
For example: How does God make it that he is eternal. He does the following.
First God wills to be eternal and then he uses the power to realize this will.
so the commandment that God gave himself to be eternal has always existed, he never created it, it has always been there. He can’t just create the commandment to be eternal. Also, the power of God which implements this commandment that he is eternal has always existed, he never created it. He can’t just create the power that makes him eternal
So these things have always existed:
God, the word of God (Jesus) and the power of God that implements the word of God (Holy Spirit)
Only God is eternal because to be eternal you have to be omnipotent , that is why the word of God and the power of God that implements his word (Holy Spirit) are God.
That’s why the the Bible makes soooo much sense when it says
In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God.
It makes soooo much sense why there HAS TO BE three persons that are one God, and not only one person.
If there is an omnipotent being it has to be always triunion otherwise it can’t exist
Trinity = Man seeing God in their image
Sis Roosevelt. You are 100% Spot on. Thank you
God speaks to us through His Word by His Spirit
I remember the first time hearing about the 'Trinity.' And getting it explained to me, I was like, WHAT! Fast-forward to this day; its so easy to understand! It just takes a bit of time to wrap your head around it. Our Creator is AMAZING😊😍💙!
Can you please explain how 3 serpste beings all fully God and all coexisting can make 1 God. Either they're 3 separate Gods or each equate to 1/3 of God.
@@sakaria744 Well, maybe if you think of it this way; lets say we have a man named Tim. He's a husband, a son and a father, but yet he is 1 person. So, in a similar way, thats how God is... Does that help in any way?
@@jess1987 I'm sorry but that analogy doesn't work because the father is the husband who also is the son. So you can say theres 1 tim. But when you say jesus is not the father who's not the Son but they're all fully God that's where it doesn't ever make sense
@@jess1987 in Islam we worship Allah alone without any partners and we love jesus he is the slave and messnger of Allah, he was never crucified rather Allah raised him and a look alike was crucified. How can he be crucified when the bible says the one who dies by crucifixion is cursed.
Galatians 3:13
CSB: Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, because it is written, Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree.
Is jesus who you believe to be God also cursed ? And if he is cursed then how can God curse himself ?
God is Numerically One (Deuteronomy 6:4)
Not three persons..
Numerically One being One in Personality and Will..
I would be careful to not use the the word separate, but just distinct, as the three are united as the one God. Great video!!
Yes I agree, not separate but distinct eternally coequal.
So when Jesus died the other two persons also died?.. Who ruled the universe for 3days and 3 nights?!!
@@mustaphaadamji9829 physically he died just as we die.. but He still existed fully as He was prior becoming a man. During the 3 days he entered where the souls were so not like being dead meant he no longer existed only his physical existence.
@@kuiama23 it wasn't 3days.. Jesus said "as Jonah was 3days n 3 nights in the belly of the fish so shall the son of man be 3days n 3 nights in the belly heart of the earth".. So was Jesus like Jonah?
@@mustaphaadamji9829 Jonah didnt die. But in the gutt it was hell in many respects .. Jesus talked in parables to the masses but even when HE spoke more directly it wasnt understood until after he rose from the grave.
Jesus died and went to hell and revealed himself as he took the keys.
But Jesus didnt say like Jonah I'm gonna get puked up on a beach. Only the 3 days AND NIGHTS. like cuz usual day follows day and no night between them. So. I think actually. U r just being a troll with enough knowledge to make u a hardened heart.. and not enough desire to seek wisdom on parts u truly do NOT understand because the seed never took any root when it fell on your ears... or the heart so cold it was rock hard to get info only to mock ones who have a SHALOM in a world that doesnt have peace.. and that drives u to try to have us to be as empty as u must be
TRINITY
1 John 5:7
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1 Corinthians 12:4-6
There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them. There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. There are different kinds of working, but in all of them and in everyone it is the same God at work.
2 Corinthians 13:14
14 May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.
Matthew 3:16-17
16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. 17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him, I am well pleased.”
John 14:16-17
16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever- 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.
I was raised in the lds church (also know as the Mormon church.) but after I became a teenager I started doing research and long story short I stopped believing in the Book of Mormon and my faith became aligned with the teachings in the Bible. I am still learning things I wasn’t taught in the lds church and I want to understand the trinity but it’s still difficult for me to comprehend because I was repeatedly taught at a young age that God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are three separate beings. I am trying my best to understand the trinity that the Bible teaches us but I don’t think I’m doing a very good job at comprehending that they are one. Is god one spirit who dwells in three separate forms at once? or is he three separate beings united as one? And did god send himself to die on the cross in the form of Jesus and still stayed in heaven at the same time? Can someone explain this to me in a way that I can understand? I watched the video and I’m still confused. Either way I love god and have faith in him, I just want to better understand him so I can become closer to him and know the fullness of his gospel and so I won’t unknowingly spread false doctrine.
Hi. How was your journey leaving the lds church? Praise God you came out of it
be careful, trinity is catholic church adopted pagan religious belief. research this. listen to no one but Abba on this matter.
I already posted a comment but in case you don’t read it I’ll share it with you. First off if you wanna make actual sense of the Bible don’t rely on these types of popcorn entertainment videos. In fact it’s clergy like him (and even Jeff Durbin) that makes it more complicated than it has to be. The easiest way to view the trinity is as follows: CEO, CFO & COO. Three separate but one in purpose. It’s my opinion the main reason Christians don’t sub to this idea is if they do that automatically puts them in a position to believe in Joseph Smith’s version & that’s the last thing they want. But that’s just faulty reasoning. Just because you believe in 3 separate Gods doesn’t mean you have to believe in Mormonism. Nor does it mean you’re a “polytheist pagan”. I tell ya there’s so much sophistry in religion it’s not even funny.
Great is mystery of Godliness....this was hidden from the wise and revealed to babes ..... to answer this complicated question ask yourself who raised Jesus from the dead .Was it the father Jesus or the Holy Spirit
Well This Is How He Is .
There Is One God, But Since He Is God, He Has Three copies of himself with different names BUT STILL HIMSELF he can Still Command The Position Of The Father, And The Father Can send his son(But still Himself In The Copy Of The Son ,And The Father Can Use Himself In The Copy Of The Holy Spirit To Resurrect The Son and vise versa , okay let me say he makes copies of himself to work out different things ,Without moving from The Throne.
HE OPERATES IN THREE DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF HIMSELF WITHOUT LEAVING THE THRONE AS GOD..
In fact He can even intercede to His Father Version Of God Through His Version Of The Son and Holy Spirit..NO OTHER SPIRIT IS CAPABLE OF THIS MODE OF MANIFESTATION THATS WHAT MAKES HIM EXCEPTIONALLY GOD!!
(1John 5:7 [KJV])
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Edit: Thanks to all for pointing out my error in posting this from the Bible.
monkymonk6 that's what's know as the Johnanine comma bible.org/article/textual-problem-1-john-57-8
christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/53329/what-effect-did-the-1897-decree-regarding-the-johannine-comma-have-on-catholic-s
wikivisually.com/wiki/Johannine_Comma
That was a add in that didn't show up until the 1,500's.
monkymonk6 three what?. You can't say person or Humans or Gods
He's near that passage wasn't in any manuscript until the 1,500's. But if it does solidify anything is that there is 3 manifestations of God. Even though it was added in to justify the Trinity.
monkymonk6 That verse is a forgery.
The very fact you accept the 1245 makes all credibility you have a loss.
The Septugiant of the verse in its original form looks like this:
7 For there are three witness bearers:
7 ὅτι Because τρεῖς three εἰσὶν are οἱ the (ones) μαρτυροῦντες, bearing witness,
7 Διότι τρεις είναι αυτοί που δίνουν μαρτυρία,
So, where is the word God mentioned in the verse? I do not understand what you are saying..
A problem I have with the trinity is that Jesus always refers to God as his father, receiving his power from him, being his own image, everything being created by the father through him. I can see as I read the Bible that although Jesus is divine, he is submitted towards the father creating a sort of inequality. What are your thoughts on that?
Jesus is all powerful God but when he came in human flesh he humbled himself and didn't use his divine attributes(that doesn't mean he didn't have ) but rather prayed to God the Father . In this way he set a good example to us . Don't forget the fact that he came here to live like a Human Being.
Isaiah 46 verse 5 to whom shall you compare to God , or be EQUAL TO GOD ???????????
John 1 verse 18 no man has seen God at anytime
@@tiffanywright6653 lol jesus clearly indirectly said that he is the God . You should read bible a bit.
Like jesus said he and father are one
Jesus used title of old testament God "i am "
Jesus called himself the alpha and omega .
Jesus can forgive sin .
Jesus said he was before the Abraham was .
Jesus said son of God has to die for the world .
Jesus accept worship in the bible .
There are numerous verses in the bible which clearly shows that jesus is the God .
@@tiffanywright6653 you must be muslim .
1. EUSEBIUS (C. 260-C. 340) was the Bishop of Caesarea and is known as “the Father of Church History.” Although he wrote prolifically, his most celebrated work is his Ecclesiastical History, a history of the Church from the Apostolic period until his own time. Today it is still the principal work on the history of the Church at that time. Eusebius quotes many verses in his writings, and Matthew 28:19 is one of them. He never quotes it as it appears today in modern Bibles, but always finishes the verse with the words “IN MY NAME.” For example, in Book III of his History, Chapter 5, Section 2, which is about the Jewish persecution of early Christians, we read:
But the rest of the apostles, who had been incessantly plotted against with a view to their destruction, and had been driven out of the land of Judea, went unto all nations to preach the Gospel, relying upon the power of Christ, who had said to them,
Matt. 28:19 Note that it says " IN THE NAME". This is all in the singular, in other words there is only ONE Name. And it says, "in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.". It does Not say, in the name of the Father, and the Name of the Son, and the name of the Holy Spirit! NAME OF is only used ONCE. Not three times. So there is only ONE Name that fills the requirement. That is JESUS.
There is NO conflict here between Acts 2:38 and Matt. 28:19! Acts 2:38, IS THE FULLFILLING of Matt. 28:19.
The Creeds:
If Jesus died in 33 A.D. and the day of Pentecost was 50 days later. The day of Pentecost was a festival that took place 50 days after the Passover. That has Acts 2 taking place in 33 A.D., which would be the beginning of the church. How long after did the creeds come from that most churches follow these days?
I will quote the Encyclopedia Britannica on the Trinity “Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Hebrew Scriptures: “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord” (Deuteronomy 6:4). The earliest Christians, however, had to cope with the implications of the coming of Jesus Christ and of the presumed presence and power of God among them-i.e., the Holy Spirit, whose coming was connected with the celebration of the Pentecost. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were associated in such New Testament passages as the Great Commission: “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” (Matthew 28:19); and in the apostolic benediction: “The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all” (2 Corinthians 13:14). Thus, the New Testament established the basis for the doctrine of the Trinity.
The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. Initially, both the requirements of monotheism inherited from the Hebrew Scriptures and the implications of the need to interpret the biblical teaching to Greco-Roman religions seemed to demand that the divine in Christ as the Word, or Logos, be interpreted as subordinate to the Supreme Being. An alternative solution was to interpret Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as three modes of the self-disclosure of the one God but not as distinct within the being of God itself. The first tendency recognized the distinctness among the three, but at the cost of their equality and hence of their unity (subordinationism); the second came to terms with their unity, but at the cost of their distinctness as “persons” (modalism). It was not until the 4th century that the distinctness of the three and their unity were brought together in a single orthodox doctrine of one essence and three persons.
The Council of Nicaea in 325 stated the crucial formula for that doctrine in its confession that the Son is “of the same substance [homoousios] as the Father,” even though it said very little about the Holy Spirit. Over the next half century, Athanasius defended and refined the Nicene formula, and, by the end of the 4th century, under the leadership of Basil of Caesarea, Gregory of Nyssa, and Gregory of Nazianzus (the Cappadocian Fathers), the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since. It is accepted in all of the historic confessions of Christianity, even though the impact of the Enlightenment decreased its importance.”
There were seven ecumenical councils. That took place from 325-787 A.D. While the seventh council The Second Council of Nicaea’s whole purpose was to “affirm the use of icons and images”. Out of the seven councils, there was four creeds written. According to the world-wide church the first creed they follow they say comes from 150-180. While I can’t find the absolute date on that. The Encyclopedia Britannica says that “according to tradition, it was composed by the 12 Apostles, but it actually developed from early interrogations of catechumens (persons receiving instructions in order to be baptized) by the bishop.”
Then there came the Nicene Creed which dates from 325 A.D. I quote the Encyclopedia Britannica on this also which says “Until the early 20th century, it was universally assumed that the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed (the more accurate term) was an enlarged version of the Creed of Nicaea, which was promulgated at the Council of Nicaea (325). It was further assumed that this enlargement had been carried out at the Council of Constantinople (381) with the object of bringing the Creed of Nicaea up to date in regard to heresies about the Incarnation and the Holy Spirit that had arisen since the Council of Nicaea. Additional discoveries of documents in the 20th century, however, indicated that the situation was more complex, and the actual development of the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed has been the subject of scholarly dispute. Most likely it was issued by the Council of Constantinople, even though this fact was first explicitly stated at the Council of Chalcedon in 451. It was probably based on a baptismal creed already in existence, but it was an independent document and not an enlargement of the Creed of Nicaea.
The so-called Filioque clause (Latin filioque, “and the son”), inserted after the words “the Holy Spirit,…who proceeds from the Father,” was gradually introduced as part of the creed in the Western church, beginning in the 6th century. It was probably finally accepted by the papacy in the 11th century. It has been retained by the Roman Catholic, Anglican, and Protestant churches. The Eastern churches have always rejected it because they consider it a theological error and an unauthorized addition to a venerable document.”
Then came the Chalcedonian Creed written in 451 A.D.
Then came the Athanasian creed, which took place in about 500 A.D.
So if Jesus died in 33 A.D. and the birth of the church happened 50 days later, how many years is that between the birth of the church and the full revelation of the Trinity? Yep you got it over 467 years! And to the council of Chalcedon in 451 which is 418 years!
Friends don't take some fourth century invention, when reading your Birthday Bible. The Apostle's only knew of One God, not in 3 person's! 3 manifestations which God Almighty can manifest all at once! That's what being Omnipresent is all about!
Quotes from trinitarian historians, and secular Historians:
Jude says in 1:3 “Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.”
Dr. W. R. Matthews said in his book “God in Christian Thought and Experience page 180” “the doctrine of the Trinity … formed no part of the original message. St. Paul knew it not, and would have been unable to understand the meaning of the terms used in the theological formula on which the Church ultimately agreed.”
Emil Brunner wrote in his book “The Christian Doctrine of God” that “Certainly, it cannot be denied that not only the word "Trinity", but even the explicit idea of the Trinity is absent from the apostolic witness to the faith.”
September 9/10/1990 Mark A Noll wrote in “Christianity Today” a article titled the “Doctrine Doctor”. He wrote about a historian Jaroslav Pelikan that the article says “has written a history of the Christian tradition on a scale no one else has attempted in the twentieth century.” It also reported that this man “The Library of Congress has awarded its annual John W. Kluge Prize in the Human Sciences to Yale University historian Jaroslav Pelikan (along with French philosopher Paul Ricoeur). The $1 million award focuses on those academic disciplines not covered by the Nobel prizes and has only been awarded since 2003.”
Mr. Pelikan said that "For those who believe that you don't need tradition because you have the Bible," he reflects, "The Christian Tradition has sought to say, 'You are not entitled to the beliefs you cherish about such things as the Holy Trinity without a sense of what you owe to those who worked this out for you.' To circumvent Saint Athanasius on the assumption that if you put me alone in a room with the New Testament, I will come up with the doctrine of the Trinity, is naive.”
Walter Martin said in the 1985 debate on the “John Ankerberg Show” “The eternal son is a heresy created by Origen in 230 A.D.”
He also said in his book “Kingdom of the Cults” “The Scripture nowhere calls Jesus Christ the eternal Son of God, and he is never called Son at all prior to the incarnation, except in prophetic passages in the Old Testament. The term "Son" itself is a functional term, as is the term "Father" and has no meaning apart from time. The term “Father” incidentally never carries the descriptive adjective “eternal” in Scripture; as a matter of fact, only the Spirit is called eternal (“the eternal Spirit” in Hebrews 9:14), emphasizing the fact that the words Father and Son are purely functional as previously stated.”
Robert L Reymond said in his book “The Justification of Knowledge: An Introductory Study in Christian Apologetic Methodology” “Now, no matter how one prefers to translate logos in this passage (word, account, esteem, ratio, reason, formula, debate, speech, deliberation, discussion, oracle, sentence), I agree with Gordon H. Clark when he writes, “Any translation of John 1:1 that obscures…emphasis on mind or reason is a bad translation.”
“The Wycliffe Bible Encyclopedia, Moody Press, Chicago, IL, Volume 2 pages 1046-1047 states”
“Many scholars have argued that the apostle John had this philosophical development (of the Greek philosophical LOGOS) in the back of his mind when he wrote the prologue to his Gospel and that he actually tried to impart some of these (Greek Philosophical) concepts. For a long time many have contended that the background of the fourth Gospel was essentially Hellenistic rather than Hebraic. In dealing with such an assertion we may note that studies in the Dead Sea scrolls have tended to confirm the traditional conservative position that the cultural orientation of the Gospel of John was Hebraic. Moreover, we must observe that John was a simple fisherman from Palestine … there is no evidence that he imbibed any Greek pagan philosophical orientation in John Chapter 1. If he intended to be philosophical in the first few verses, he certainly was not anywhere else. We may argue that John used the word ‘logos’ in its ordinary meaning.”
C. Pearl and R. Brookes wrote in their book “A Guide to Jewish Knowledge, pages 96,97” “Having affirmed the existence of God, Judaism really lays down only one basic idea about Him which is a recognised dogma - the Unity of God. ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is One.’ This is immediately a negation of the polytheism of the ancient world with its numerous deities. It is a repudiation of the idea that there are two gods or two creative sources of existence, one of good and the other of evil. It is also a clear denial of the idea of a trinity - three gods in One which is the established doctrine of Christianity. For Judaism there can be absolutely no compromise at all in this fundamental concept of the Only One God who is the ultimate creative source of all life and death, the elements of nature and history and the power behind all forces, physical and spiritual.”
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Dr. Benjamin B. Warfield said in his book “Biblical Doctrine” that “The term “Trinity” is not a Biblical term, and we are not using Biblical language when we define what is expressed by it as the doctrine that there is one only and true God, but in the unity of the Godhead there are three coeternal and coequal Persons, the same in substance but distinct in subsistence. A doctrine so defined can be spoken of as a Biblical doctrine only on the principle that the sense of Scripture is Scripture. And the definition of a Biblical doctrine in such unbiblical language can be justified only on the principle that it is better to preserve the truth of Scripture than the words of Scripture. The doctrine of the Trinity lies in Scripture in solution; when it is crystallized from its solvent it does not cease to be Scriptural, but only comes into clearer view. Or, to speak without figure, the doctrine of the Trinity is given to us in Scripture, not in formulated definition, but in fragmentary allusions; when we assembled the disjecta membra into their organic unity, we are not passing from Scripture, but entering more thoroughly into the meaning of Scripture. We may state the doctrine in technical terms, supplied by philosophical reflection; but the doctrine stated is a genuinely Scriptural doctrine.”
Edmund J Fortman said in his book “The Triune God” that “The Biblical witness to God, as we have seen, did not contain any formal or formulated doctrine of the trinity, any explicit teaching that in one God there are three co-equal divine persons. Rather it contained the data from which a doctrine of this kind could be formulated. And it would take three centuries of gradual assimilation of the Biblical witness to God before the formulation of the dogma of one God in three distinct persons would be achieved.”
“The New Catholic Encyclopedia”, 1967, Volume 14, page 299: "The formulation 'one God in three Persons' was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective."
“The History of Christianity”, by Peter Eckler: "If Paganism was conquered by Christianity, it is equally true that Christianity was corrupted by Paganism. The pure Deism of the first Christians, (who differed from their fellow Jews only in the belief that Jesus was the promised Messiah,) was changed, by the Church of Rome, into the incomprehensible dogma of the trinity. Many of the pagan tenets, invented by the Egyptians and idealized by Plato, were retained as being worthy of belief."
Oxford University Professor J. N. D. Kelly: "During the first three centuries of its existence, the Christian Church had first to emerge from the [monotheistic] Jewish environment that had cradled it and then come to terms with the predominantly Hellenistic (Greek) culture surrounding it. ... "Most of them exploited current philosophical conceptions. . . They have been accused of Hellenizing Christianity (making it Greek in form and method), but they were in fact attempting to formulate it in intellectual categories congenial [suited] to their age. In a real sense they were the first Christian theologians."
“Dictionnaire Lachatre” "The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. . . . This Greek philosopher's conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions."
Encyclopedia Britannica (1976): "Such a Hellenization did, to a large extent, take place. The definition of the Christian faith as contained in the creeds of the ecumenical synods of the early church indicate that unbiblical categories of Neoplatonic philosophy were used in the formulation of the doctrine of the Trinity."
“The 15-volume Dictionnaire de Theologie Catholique”: "It seems unquestionable that the revelation of the mystery of the Trinity was not made to the Jews."
Jesus says plainly in John 4:22 “You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews.”
Arthur Weigall, in his book “The Paganism in Our Christianity, p. 198” “"In the Fourth Century B.C. Aristotle wrote: 'All things are three, and thrice is all: and let us use this number in the worship of the gods; for, as the Pythagoreans say, everything and all things are bound by threes, for the end, the middle, and the beginning have this number in everything, and these compose the number of the Trinity.'"
Millard J Erickson “Christian Theology” (P. 321) “In the doctrine of the Trinity, we encounter one of the truly distinctive doctrines of Christianity. Among the religions of the world, the Christian faith is unique in making the claim that God is one and yet there are three who are God. In so doing, it presents what seems on the surface to be a self-contradictory doctrine. Furthermore, this doctrine is not overtly or explicitly stated in Scripture. Nevertheless, devout minds have been led to it as they sought to do justice to the witness of Scripture.”
W. Fulton “Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics” “The term "Trinity", is not found in the Bible. Theophilus of Antioch around 180 A.D. first used the Greek term trias (a set of three) in reference to God, his Word, and his Wisdom. However, Tertullian in 215 A.D. was the first one to state this doctrine using the Latin term, Trinitas (Trinity), referring to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.”
“The Story of Civilization”: Part III, page 595: "Christianity did not destroy paganism; it adopted it. From Egypt came the ideas of a divine trinity."
"The word triad, or trinity, was borrowed from the pagan schools of philosophy and introduced into the theology of Christians of the middle second century by Theophilus, Bishop of Antioch."-Bibliotheque Ecclesiastique, Dupin
“Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel”: "The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. This Greek philosopher's conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions."-Volume 2, page 1467
Colossians 2:8 “Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.”
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Dr. Nathaniel J. Wilson "The Godhead". The best in depth explaination, and in the littlest time. I hope this helps! In Jesus Name, God Bless!
3 manifestations which God manifests all at once is the definition of the Trinity I am familiar with
For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.
I John 5:7 NKJV
according to christian scholars, that verse is forgery. not found in the old manuscript. latest revised version throw it out. the only bible that has this verse is king james version. as far as i know.
ONE SPIRIT AMEN
@@lantorres8708 Not really Reina Valera 1960 has the same... Also John 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and my Father are one.
@@faridrn6699 yeah, that verse is an interpolation a concoction.
Also, why does jesus say I and the father are one and not i the Holy spirit and the father are one?
Why is holy spirit not mentioned?
@@TheKingofdans John 14:15-31
I automatically think of Jesus being baptized and heaven opening up and God saying this was His Son and the Holy Spirit coming upon Him in the form of a dove, so they were all 3 there at the same time, which I believe shows that the idea of God switching back and forth between those roles is wrong. I had actually never heard that idea before. I believe that He is all 3 and the same all the time, but I also don't completely understand it. With things i don't fully understand I just believe when we meet Him in heaven it will be an Ah-hah moment for us all! I think it will all completely make sense when He is ready for us to completely know and understand! I go back to Adam and Eve and how they didn't understand and let that sway them, but God was watching out for them and knew what was best the entire time. I hold onto that when I run across things in His word that I can't completely wrap my head around.
Love your channel, I just found it a few weeks ago and have been watching numerous videos everyday!! God Bless!!!!!
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Yes Melz.....I too don't fully understand it...but we don't have to in order to believe. That is faith. I so love GOD, The Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit.
@@Dearest_Kenyetta lies. God said He alone is God and there is none other with Him. No other spirit, no son, no company, no help. Nothin, zip, nada. God is alone. That Father alone is God and God alone is the Father.
@@Dearest_Kenyetta sis, you are an Israelite. You are a Jew. Those men who are in our land are not the Jews. You and me? We are. You come from one of the 12 Tribes of Israel.
you do not understand how 1+1+1=1
you belive that can happend right ?
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The Meaning of One
1Co 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is ONE Spirit.
The Spirit is God's essence. Spirit is what God is, and the Spirit He is is the Holy Spirit. That is the missing key to understanding "the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. The reason the Father and the Son are One is because they are the Holy Spirit. This scripture makes it plain. The Spirit is also how we are one in them when we believe.
Ro 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but IN THE SPIRIT, if so be that THE SPIRIT OF GOD DWELL IN YOU. Now if any man have not THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of his.
10 ¶ And if CHRIST be IN YOU, the body is dead because of sin; but THE SPIRIT IS LIFE because of righteousness.
11 But if THE SPIRIT OF HIM THAT RAISED UP JESUS from the dead DWELL IN YOU, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by HIS SPIRIT THAT DWELLETH IN YOU.
Ro 12:5 So WE, BEING MANY, ARE ONE BODY IN CHRIST, and every one members one of another.
1Co 10:17 For we being many are ONE BREAD, and ONE BODY: for we are all partakers of that ONE BREAD.
1Co 12:12 ¶ For as THE BODY IS ONE, AND HATH MANY MEMBERS, and all the members of that ONE BODY, being many, are ONE BODY: SO ALSO IS CHRIST.
In the exact same way, Jesus said,...
Joh 10:30 I AND my Father ARE ONE.
Joh 17:11 ¶ And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that THEY MAY BE ONE AS WE ARE: (IN THE SAME WAY)
Joh 17:20 ¶ Neither pray I for these alone, but for THEM ALSO WHICH SHALL BELIEVE IN ME through their word;
21 THAT THEY ALL MAY BE ONE; AS THOU, FATHER, ART IN ME, AND I IN THEE, THAT THEY ALSO MAY BE ONE IN US: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that THEY MAY BE ONE, AS WE ARE ONE: (IN THE SAME WAY)
23 I IN THEM AND THOU IN ME, that they may be made perfect IN ONE; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
Joh 17:24 ¶ Father, I WILL THAT THEY ALSO, WHOM THOU HAS GIVEN ME, BE WITH ME WHERE I AM; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for THOU LOVEDST ME BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD.
25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I IN THEM.
Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another COMFORTER, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for HE DWELLETH WITH YOU, AND SHALL BE IN YOU.
18 ¶ I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU.
Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and WE WILL COME UNTO HIM, AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM.
Jesus comes to us in the Holy Spirit. The Spirit doesn't leave them, it emanates from them. That is how God is omnipresent. His Spirit permeates every place in heaven and earth.
Joh 20:21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
Mt 7:7 ¶ Ask, and it shall be given you;
Lu 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
In the book of Revelation, in the last two chapters, where it talks about the new heaven and the new earth, we find no mention of the Holy Spirit. But the Holy Spirit is there, in the Father and the Son. What we do see is a river of life flowing out of the throne.
Re 22:1 ¶ And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
Joh 7:37 ¶ In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
Joh 4:10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water. 11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water? 12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle? 13 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again: 14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.
Trinity isn’t a good explanation of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Look at these references to the Holy Spirit. These are from the kjv.
Holy Spirit, Holy Ghost, the Spirit, Spirit of God, Spirit of Jesus Christ, Spirit of the Lord , Spirit of Christ, Spirit of the living God, Spirit of our God, Spirit of your Father, holy Spirit of God, Spirit which is of God, Spirit of His Son, his Holy Spirit, My Spirit, His Spirit, the Lord is that Spirit, Spirit of grace, holy Spirit of promise, Spirit of adoption, Spirit of life in Christ, Spirit of life from God, the Spirit itself.
The way the Spirit is described in the scripture as being "of God" and "of His Son" and being "His Spirit", it doesn't sound like a third person. I don't think the Spirit is a third person. I think it is what God is. Just as you and I are human beings, the Father and Son are Holy Spirit.
Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Spirit is what God is, and the Spirit He is is the Holy Spirit.
Php 1:19 For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,
Amen.
Jesus is GOD in the flesh 1 Timothy 3:16
Mike Blume also in John 14 Jesus says He is the Father.
Larry Darnell Rembert III no that is wrong. Jesus nowhere says He is the Father. He says I and the Father are One. What scripture are you referencing?
THE BEAT by Allen Parr Greetings Brother Allen. I do not mean to spark debate but speak reason. John 14: 8 -9. Philip said to Jesus, " Lord, show us the Father, and that will satisfy us." Jesus replied, I have been with all of you for a long time. Don't you know me yet, Philip? The person who has seen me has seen the Father. So how can you say, ' Show us the Father'? ( God's Word Translation )
And if youll look up the translation of "one" in "I and my father are one" it means the number 1. Singular. ... not in spirit mission or purpose... its 1 as in ... one in the same.
So if Jesus is the same as God the Father, does this mean that Jesus was praying to Himself? You see how this interpretation could cause major theological issues? Jesus was clearly praying and communicating with His Father. They are two DISTINCT Persons coexisting at the same time as I have just proven. And no I don't see your response as debate, this is just a healthy discussion of which I LOVE to have with other believers. Let's continue this. This is good Larry!
Keep seeking--keep knocking." God bless you and your family.
“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.“
Isaiah 9:6
Bethany
Isaiah 53 just speaks Jesus
Is. 9:6 simply refers to the "Spirit of God" that would dwell WITHIN Christ. Note: "A CHILD...(a human being)...SHALL BE...(meaning--it hadn't happened yet)...and...BORN." Well, God was NOT "born." These titles, or designations were BESTOWED upon Christ because God (the Father) knew (because He's God) that Jesus would be "obedient "UNTO DEATH (the CROSS)." Bless you, and open your heart, Mr. Robidoux.
@C S The very name, "Christ" means the "Anointed-one." It was God the FATHER that "anointed" the Son. Question: What, according to Acts 10:38, did God "anoint" Jesus with? Scripture ALSO says, God (the FATHER) "gave" Jesus "All Power and authority." There are MANY more examples that CLEARLY illustrate Jesus is NOT GOD. God the FATHER is the One and Only "Holy Spirit!" There are NO MORE than ONE Holy Spirit! If we could JUST get trinitarians to understand THAT--the debate would be OVER! Oh well, the devil is clever, and cunning. It's gonna' be a fight ALL THE WAY TO HEAVEN! Ah, but it's WORTH it!! God bless you all.
@C S Amen!
Ray Gabrelcik Mary gave birth to the Sacrifice of God (man Christ Jesus.) In him God dwelled but limited himself (Phillipians 2 and Colossians 2:9.) Amen
They got you! There is a question Jesus asked his disciples at Matthew 16:15. How would you answer?
Neither Jesus nor his dsiciples spoke of a Trinity. It was not until 325 AD at the First Council of Nicaea that MEN introduced it. So its men over Christ for many.
Antichrists are those who deny both The Father AND The Son. How? They deny the Father is ALONE God. There are no others. They deny The Son in that they make him God rather that he is FROM God.
The Trinity is a demon-inspired teaching and it is of the spirit of antichrist.
It gives a middle finger to The One God.
The Apostle Paul taught at 1 Cor 8:6 that there is ONE GOD and that ONE GOD is identified as THE FATHER. He says we have one Lord, and he is Jesus Christ.
Here are some Scriptures I would love Trinitarians to reconcile with Jesus being God.
1. Deuteronomy 4:35,39
2. Deuteronomy 6:4
3. Deuteronomy 32:39
4. 2 Samuel 7:22
5. 1 Kings 8:60
6. 1 Chronicles 17:20
7. Nehemiah 9:6
8. Psalm 18:31
9. Psalm 86:10
10. Isaiah44:6,8
11. Isaiah 45:21
12. Joel 2:27
13. John 17:3
14. 1 Corinthians 8:4-6
15. 1 Timothy 1:17
16. 1 Timothy 2:5
17. James 2:19
Just read the literal first book of the Bible, Genesis, & you will see that God the Father-as he’s creating-refers to himself as “us”.
But of the Son [Jesus] he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness beyond your companions.”
Remember JESUS was born of the HOLY SPIRIT and in the book of COLOSSIANS it states that JESUS is the CREATOR.
Jesus is not mentioned until the book of Matthew. Old Testament the creator is God. Jesus is the creator but the Holy Spirit gave birth to him so a being existed before he did to create him. That doesn’t make any sense. Jesus Christ came down 42 generations but we first hear about him in Matthew.
@@solomonterrance2676 he who denies the Son, denies the FATHER, Isaiah 9:6 please read and pray on it, JESUS is the EVERLASTING FATHER!
@Find Truth I don't use my own understanding, that would mislead you, I let the Holy Spirit speak and only speak GOD'S Word. Where's your scriptures if what I said was wrong? Lean not on your own understanding but in all your ways acknowledge GOD and HE shall direct your path. Please find someone else to play with, I don't play, or ever try to mislead anyone, especially when it comes to my LORD and my GOD JESUS CHRIST, now take care.
Stay out of the crayon box with that black and white nonsense
@Find Truth The LORD almighty rebuke you, so sad
This is why I love Allen Parr, hes straight to the point and educational.
Biblical TRINITY is 3-N-1 comes from 2 Root Words, TRI = means 3, and UNITY = means United as One... which means 3 Separate Distinct Individual Divinities/Deities composed of Father God (YHWH), Son of God (Word/Christ Jesus), and God the Holy Spirit, UNITED as ONE (working together as ONE)... Christ Jesus declared and revealed, "MY FATHER (God/YHWH AND I (Son/Word/Christ) ARE ONE."... (ref. John 10:31)...
However, "UNITY does not mean EQUALITY"... Father God (YHWH) is still the GODHEAD, GOD OF GODS, and JUDGE AMONG GODS... (ref. Psalm 82 / Deut. 10:17)...
Christ Jesus declared and acknowledged, "MY FATHER (God/YHWH) IS GREATER THAN I (Son/Word/Christ)."... (ref. John 14:28)...
Just like the Husband (Male) and Wife (Female) are 2 Separated Distinct Individual FLESHES (Bodies) UNITED as ONE Soul/Spirit through the Sacrament of Matrimony (Marriage Vows)... likewise, Christ Jesus as the GROOM and God's Church is the BRIDE, they are UNITED as ONE BODY of Christ...
God is the TRUTH that does not CHANGE (Identities) forever and eternally... (ref. Malachi 3:6)... God does not LIE, CLAIM, PRETEND, and DISGUISE someone HE is not...
Heretical TRINITY is "1-N-3" also called TRIUNE which means One (1) God (YHWH) in 3 Persons/Characters (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit)... which means GOD is ABSOLUTE ONE... That God (YHWH) was also the ONE who came down from Heaven and manifested into FLESH called Christ Jesus (Yeshua Massach) as the SAVIOR of Mankind... God (YHWH) is also the Holy Spirit who Guide and Comfort the Christians in their Life's journey here on Earth... ONE GOD disguised to mankind as the FATHER, SON, and the HOLY SPIRIT...
This kind/type of TRINITY is PURE HERETICAL (Evilness) and NON-BIBLICAL that Satan wants Christians to believe... Praise be to God in Christ Jesus... Amen.
You see, here's the problem with the concept; you can have your own way of explaining it. That's why you see videos on youtube with titles such as "How I explain Trinity".
God is not a God of confusion and it should not be up to human beings to bring different explainations of the concept that was, by the way, brought up about 3 centuries later.
JOHN 17 : 6 “I HAVE REVEALED YOU TO THOSE WHOM YOU GAVE ME OUT OF THE WORLD. THEY WERE YOURS ; YOU GAVE THEM TO ME AND THEY HAVE OBEYED YOUR WORD. NOW THEY KNOW THAT EVERYTHING YOU HAVE GIVEN ME COMES FROM YOU. ”
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And if it’s really confuse it’s not from God !
God it’s not the master of confusion but Satan itself inputs doctrines of confusion.
It's common knowledge that when you break down and compare even the smallest part of a simple thing it gets more wordy which some think it gets more complicated because the definition is more in length than the original.
The Word was God and became Jesus, a man in a servant body which made him no longer in his God material Spirit man body with his own Spirit of God within him thereby becoming no more a true God
After he successfully completed his servant work he was begotten of God as God as he had been from the beginning.
The Word had been with the God and the God revealed himself to Abraham as Almighty God to Moses as I AM, and Jehovah/Yahweh/LORD to Israel allowing no knowledge of the Word as Israel's God of worship.
As time passed the God realized his agreement (covenant) with Israel was inadequate (because of man's weakness in Israel) and prophesied of a coming New Testament (New Covenant) revealing the Word to be his equal as God but not while he came to fulfill the Old Testament covenant commandments.
God had sent the Word to make the foundation of the transition from the Old to the New to include the Word's equality with himself known which only began after the Word's resurrection from the dead begotten of God.
This seems simple enough.
These words saved me tq... I was in a confusion
@@3321-u1u I don't think we know what it was like to have a beginning. I certainly don't remember my birth. I remember growing up but not my birth.
1 Timothy 2:5 - For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.
Notice it says Jesus is a mediator between man and God. Not God himself.
2 Samuel 7:22
Wherefore thou art great, O LORD God; for there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.
Isaiah 46:9 - For I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me
As you can see Jesus is not God. Jesus is Gods son and the mediator between us and Jehovah.
@@bobwellington7580 context CONTEXT: from Exodus 20:2 - end of Malachi all Old Testament passages are under Exodus 20:2-3 'I am the LORD your God/Elohim/Gods who have - plural verb - brought you out of the land of Egypt out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods/elohim before me.'
Notice: One LORD/Jehovah/Yahweh is God/Elohim/Gods 'I (not we are) am the LORD' Exodus 20:2 'before me' Exodus 20:3, Deuteronomy 6:4 'Hear o Israel the LORD our God is one LORD'.
The Singular God, the LORD God/Elohim/Gods, is Elohim/Gods because he overcame the multiple gods/elohim, under one name, shown in action over the individual gods/elohim of the land of Egypt. It follows that the LORD who brought, led Exodus 13:21 Israel out of the land of Egypt iS ONLY TO BE WORSHIPPED, their God/'object of worship'.
The Rock that followed Israel 1st Corinthians 10:4 'drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ' was not the Rock of Israel Isaiah 44:8 who led them out of the land of Egypt out of the house of bondage' Exodus 20:2.
The Christ that followed Israel 1st Corinthians 10:4 was not, nor would be Israel's Savior out of Egypt out of bondage but would be Israel's Savior out of the bondage of sin Romans 8:19-23, John 8:34 'you shall call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins' Matthew 1:21.
It follows the One God/Elohim/gods/elohim/'object of worship' of Israel was the One God who led them out of the land of Egypt Exodus13:21, 20:2, not the gods/elohim/'object of worship' who followed Israel out of Egypt, nor the One who was to 'save his people from their sins' Matthew 1:21 from which comes all Old Testament covenant commandments and passages which proclaim 'there is none else, no God beside him, he knows of no other God or Rock' that led Israel out of the land of Egypt out of the house of bondage' Exodus 13:21, 20:2. Yes?
The one mediator between God and man is the man Christ Jesus through his crucified flesh Hebrews 10:19-20 'having therefore brethren boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus by a new and living way which he has consecrated for us through the veil that is to say his flesh'.
Today Jesus
'For the Father judges no man but has committed all judgment to the Son ... and has given him authority to execute judgment also for he is the Son of man' John 5:22,27 'the Father judges no man' including the Son of man, Jesus Christ 'gave him to be head over all things to the church which is his body the fulness of him that fills all in all' Ephesians 1:22-23 'in heaven and in earth' Matthew 28:18 over all men John 5:22:
Is the Judge of all the earth Genesis 18:25, John 5:22 and God over all men Hebrews 13:4, Revelation 20:11-15, 1st Corinthians 15:27-28.
'You shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power' Mark 14:62
'Having purged our sins sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high', not IS the right hand of the Majesty, Hebrews 1:3.
Completed his task 'shall save his people from their sins' Matthew 1:21 and is sat down on the right hand of the Majesty, power, on high Hebrews 1:3, Mark 14:62, Hebrews 10:19-20.
At 5:00 im not sure how the statement is bad..I guess reading that I wouldn't think that someone is saying God is "one at a time". Can't that be read as "we have one God, he is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit"
Thank you Allen. I love your teaching. You explain things beautifully. Thank you for your service to our Lord.
Man is created in the image of God: Body, soul and Spirit. Jesus was the body manifest on earth, He's soul, which is the Father, His Spirit which is the Holy Spirit. That's why He alone could say, if you have seen me you have seen the Father, if you have known me you have known the Father for we are one. He came unto His own and they received Him not. One God, one faith, one baptism. Please read : Isaiah 9 :6
John 10:36
Do you say of him whom the Father consecrated and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’?
How do you explain that text where Jesus himself said he is the son of God and not God himself ? And there are more then 100 Bible verses where he says that over and over again.
The prophecies of Isaiah 7:14 & Isaiah 9:6 said that this promised Son would be God in human flesh (Immanuel & the everlasting Father). When Jesus told Philip "When you see me, you see the Father", He was merely echoing what the prophet Isaiah had already said. If you read the four places in the Gospel of John where Jesus was talking about sending the "Comforter", you'll notice that sometimes he said " I will send", other times he said " the Father will send". This comforter is the Holy Ghost as the scripture said; also of which Matt. 1:18 says that Mary was found with child of the Holy Ghost. How then could Jesus send His own Father?
@@daystargospel5566 Jesus did say “nobody can come to my father before coming to me” and that’s just in prayer. Look how Jesus didn’t call himself God he did say when you see me you see the Father hencing he is of the image of his Father. Not in one text in the Bible did Jesus say he is God. Although his disciples called him Lord they didn’t mean that as he is God. That’s a way of addressing someone specially back in those days.The Bible’s answer Jesus’ opposers accused him of making himself equal to God. (John 5:18; 10:30-33) However, Jesus never claimed to be on the same level as Almighty God. He said: “The Father is greater than I am.”-John 14:28. Jesus’ early followers did not view him as being equal to Almighty God. For example, the apostle Paul wrote that after Jesus was resurrected, God “exalted him [Jesus] to a superior position.” Obviously, Paul did not believe that Jesus was Almighty God. Otherwise, how could God exalt Jesus to a superior position? -Philippians 2:9.
@@abbyxg5596 I'm certainly not trying to argue but give my revelation of who Jesus was: John ch 1. In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. Further, all things were created by Him and for Him. Further and the Word became Flesh and dwelt among us and we beheld Him as the only begotten Son of the Father. In other words the Word which is God was revealed to us in the flesh which is Jesus. In Him dwell the fulness of the Godhead bodily. I leave these scriptures with you not to confuse you but that God will reveal to you the truth. I was astounded when it hit me who Jesus really was. Agape love from me and I trust that the Lord will answer you as you do have a sincere heart.
@@rodneydevries749 not trying to argue either but I honestly don’t like when people say Jesus was God when he would say that his Father was God. If you look in the Bible not in one text did Jesus himself say he was God he always said my Father the almighty is God. I don’t know why people use other text describing Jesus as the image of his father and twist it to say he is God. Jehovah God and Jesuscrist aren’t the same . Just look at when Jesus told Peter the disciple to walk the water by the boat and Peter walked on the water . The people and his disciple recognize him “ You really are the Son of God” and not once did Jesus correct them by saying he is God. He always said his Father is God . And he came here to do his Fathers will.
Thanks for the video, Allen. I love the Trinity! It is, and always has been, an essential Christian doctrine. I think it’s the best and most powerful description to date (in human terms and understanding) of the all-powerful, ineffable, Most High God! Unlike what naysayers may say about the Godhead the Trinity is Biblical, which is why we baptize in the Name (singular) of three (plural) Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. There are many more verses than Matt. 28:19, most of which we read right over without noticing. A thorough study is well worth the time and helps tremendously when witnessing to others. God bless! 🕊
Stacy - former Mormon
Stacy, please email me at info@allenparr.com. I'd love to speak with you personally about your journey from Mormonism to Christianity. Thank you kindly,
THE BEAT by Allen Parr,
Thanks brother Allen! I’d be happy to share my journey which led me out of Mormonism (1 Cor 7:23) into the arms of the true God! The first email has been sent.
P.S. Brother R.C. Sproul is a great resource, along with Dr. James White, author of The Forgotten Trinity.
Love to all my kin adopted in Christ Jesus! 🕊
Stacy
Deuteronomy 33:27 {The Father has always been}
The eternal God is thy refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms: and he shall thrust out the enemy from before thee; and shall say, Destroy them.
Psalm 90:2
Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
Jeremiah 23:24 {The Omnipresence of the Father}
Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? Saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? Saith the LORD.
Proverbs 15 {The omniscience of the Father }
The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.
Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
1 John 3:20
For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.
Romans 11:33
Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out!
Matthew 19 {The Omnipotence of The Father}
26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, with men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Malachi 3:6 {The Immutability of the Father}
For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
James 1:17
Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
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John 8:58; 1:4; 5:26 {Jesus is self - Existent}
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Micah 5:2 {Jesus has always been he is eternal}
Rev 1:8; John 3:16; 5:26
But thou, Bethlehem Ephrata, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
John 12:44-50; 14:16 {Jesus is infallible}
For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.
Matthew 18:20 {The Omnipresence of the Son}
For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Ephesians 4:10
He that descended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things
John 21:17 {The omniscience of the Son }
He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, feed my sheep.
Colossians 2:3
In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
John 2:24-25
But Jesus would not entrust himself to them, for he knew all people.
He did not need any testimony about mankind, for he knew what was in each person.
John 16:30
Now we can see that you know all things and that you do not even need to have anyone ask you questions. This makes us believe that you came from God."
Matthew 28:18 {The Omnipotence of The Son}
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, all power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Revelation 1:8, 22:13, 16
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end the first and the last…
I JESUS have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches.
Philippians 3:21
Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
Hebrews 13:8 {The Immutability of the Son}
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever.
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Hebrews 9:14 {The Holy Spirit has always been }
How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
Hebrews 9:14 {The Omnipresence of the Spirit}
How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the Living God?
Psalm 139:7
Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence?
1 Corinthians 2:10 {The omniscience of the Spirit}
But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
1 Corinthians 12:8-11 { The Omnipotence of The Spirit }
For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
But all these worketh that one and the self-same Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Matthew 28:19
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
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In His service,
essential doctrine should be clear, not ambiguous!!! why jesus didn't say I am 3 in one? why he didn't say worship me and father and holy spirit?
Today's orthodox belief would be considered heresy by John. Read 1 John 1 v 1 -4 and c2 v 18-19...they went out from US! 1 thess 1 v1. Please don't isolate v 18 of Matt 28. Read john 3 v 34+35; john 14 v 10 & 17 v 7-8. John 17 one in us - in name and glory. Holy spirit give after Jesus glorified by father's own self - not God the holy spirit.
God is 3 in 1 because he’s three persons coexist in one being
It’s like trying to explain something supernatural with a human brain. I can’t limit God. All I can do is believe what he said. If he decided to split himself into 20 different beings and say all 20 is Him, then I know he is able.
The trinity doctrine is unscriptural. God said, "Is there a God beside Me? ..
I know not one" (Isaiah 44:8). The one God being referred to is the Father in heaven. The Lord Jesus said, "Father...that they may know You, the only true God..." (John 17:1, 3). The apostles explained, "yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things.." (I Cor. 8:6). But this truth is hidden in mystery from those outside God's commissioning. Let's study God's words in the IGLESIA NI CRISTO (CHURCH OF CHRIST)
@@lslabsgto6632 John 10:30, is that not confirmation for you. Context of the verse, Jews were asking who Jesus was. This was part of Jesus' response.
You mentioned God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit have different roles. What are their roles or how do they differ?
AND, SINCE GOD IS OMNIPRESENT, WHERE? IS HIS RIGHT HAND ?
AND, SINCE GOD IS OMNIPRESENT, WHERE IS HIS HAND?
Beyond strange that you just made this video. I’ve been struggling with this. I totally do NOT understand anything it seems in relation to Christianity and I’ve claimed to be one my whole life. It’s not that I don’t want to believe I just struggle and feel condemned and convicted all the time!
@Christian Man i dont care if it was man made or not. the fact is . It its soo confusing AF. there is imposibe to make an analogy of it. human will never understand. thats why christian just accept it, and it is very weak basis for a religion. PURE DOCTRIN and FAITH. no REASON or EXPLANATION
Godsgift2mee Hey, is this a topic that you’re still grappling with? If so, I could try to help you out :) Jesus loves you and wants a relationship with you!
Rofid Rahmadi Hey it doesn't have to be confusing! Think of the trinity like this: God made us in his image, we have a body, mind, and soul just like Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Is that a good enough explanation?
@RENGOD main you mean accept the revelations of a sex addict, wife beater?
@@rofidganteng1 'In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. The same - the Word was God - was in the beginning with God. ' John 1:1-2.
The Word was God not the Word OF GOD:
EVERY WORD MUST BE FORMED, IN ITS CONTEXT, AFTER ITS ORIGINATOR IS; TO IDENTIFY THE THOUGHT MEANT
BUT GOD SAID
'BEFORE ME there was NO GOD FORMED NEITHER shall there be AFTER ME ' Isaiah 43:10
So, no God recognized as God by God or Scripture could be before or after God is, nor formed before or after God by God or anyone else!
It was the God who became God Almighty to Abraham Genesis 17:1, to Moses and Israel Exodus 6:3, and the Father to Jesus John 8:54.
It was the God the Word was made flesh as Jesus, called the Son of God. Luke 1:35,32.
In John 8:17-18's teaching
The law of Jesus' listeners is approved by the Father (it's Scripture, in another context John 10:34-35),
There are two witnessess, as before a judge,
And these two testifying witnesses are men
By Jesus' listeners' law
A man is defined as having a material tangible body with his own material spirit of man within him
Genesis 2:7a-d with Zechariah 12:1
Jesus has his own material mortal dust body with his own material spirit of man - the Spirit of God's Son crying Abba Father Galatians 4:6, the Spirit of Jesus Christ Philippians 1:19, the Spirit of Christ crying Abba Father Romans 8:9 - within him.
The Father - God Almighty Genesis 17:1, Exodus 6:3; the Father of Jesus John 8:54 ; a Spirit John 4:24 - has his own material body - God material Spirit man body - with his own material Holy Spirit of God 1st Corinthians 2:11 - a man as the spirit of man 1st Corinthians 2:11a is as man was before he had his own spirit of man formed within him Genesis 2:7a-d - within him.
Many not defining who/what the Word was or not separating the Word from the God as well as establishing there's no eternal Father and Son as Hebrews 1:5 quotes 'I will be to him a Father and he shall be to me a Son', in the future 'will be' 'shall be'.
Allen: That was a very clear and concise explanation of the Trinity. I’ve often said that the clarification of the Trinitarian nature of God was the most (or at least one of the most) important contributions of the “early” church to our faith. May God continue to bless your ministry!
I’ve been doing a lot of research, and I’m trying to explain to someone close to me that Jesus was always God and at no point “gave up” or surrendered his divinity... can you expand upon this and clarify this biblically? Thank you!
As long as someone has a connection with the Lord Jesus Christ through constant prayer and obedience, the Holy Spirit inside of us will sort out the gray areas for them.
It’s OK to try to edify them by sharing what you’ve come to understand in and through your own faith walk, but give them time and space to arrive at it themselves directly from God. As long as they hear you out, it is counterproductive to try and make them accepted right now. As long as they understand what you’re saying, God will do the rest.
The main essence of our faith walk is obedience to the Lord Jesus Christ. When we do that, everything else is given to us by the Holy Spirit inside of us.
Jesus is Lord. God bless you. ✝️💙🙂
ISAIAH 9;6 JOHN 3;13 ACTS 2;38 GALATIANS 3;26-27 ACTS 22;16 ACTS 19;1-9 1 PETER 3;21 JAMES 2;19 EPHESIANS 4;3-6
May Jesus Christ Blessed You Always 🌹💖🙏✝️
Allen, I love your channel. You have a true heart for Yeshua(Jesus). What you're saying, and what I grew up believing, is confirmed in Genesis, when he speaks of mans creation. "HE" spoke the words, "let us make man in OUR image. Its actually quite simple. Thanks. God bless you and yours.🙏😊👍
If it were THAT simple, Mr. "Heavy," the debating would have been OVER long ago. God, in this verse, is speaking "Prophetically." His plan to "save" mankind required a "Savior," a Savior that had not yet COME. But God--being God--clearly KNEW His great plan. He SEES the future as if it has ALREADY HAPPENED. Rom.4:17 says, HE "calls things that are NOT as though they WERE." That means God SEES, in His GREAT MIND, every thing that will TAKE PLACE in the future, but He speaks as if it has already OCCURRED. He DOES that because He's God! Most theologians admit that this is God referring to the "coming Messiah," because the Old Test. is highlighted with prophecy of the coming Messiah, and the "types" that represent him. Notice: Nowhere in the Old
Test., aside from those "prophecies" do we "see" Christ. Jesus did NOT appear until his "Virgin Birth" in the NEW Test. So, in other words, God was pointing to the "work" He would accomplish IN us THROUGH His "Son." And by the way, "image" here is not referring to "anatomical," it refers to "spiritual." God would "create" (re-create) through a "Spiritual regeneration." That is--being "Born-again." I know that's a lot to swallow at one time, but, keep an open heart. This "Tri-theistic doctrine was created by the ancient Roman Catholic church; not one SINGLE trinitarian term is found in the Greek or Hebrew--VERY suspicious! Study. Pray. Don't just read, or listen to what everyone says. Even ME! Study--seek the LORD and His Christ. God bless you, brother.
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In Apologetics we use this rule: The principle of the harmony of Scripture (or, Scripture interprets Scripture): “no part of Scripture can be interpreted in such a way as to render it in conflict with what is clearly taught elsewhere in Scripture” (RC Sproul).
I agree with this Christian even though Christianity does NOT follow its own acceptance of this rule.
Therefore when you say "John saw that the ONE WHO SPOKE TO HIM WAS THE "SON OF MAN" - Rev 1:12,13" Then it means you can differentiate between the Son of man and the Almighty? Correct? And how are they different? Can the son of man be the Almighty? If we have to stick to the rule of harmony then he cannot be the Almighty Eloheem since it would contradict what Yahuah has said Of HIMSELF at least 89 times ALREADY BEFORE including this verse concerning the "Son of Man". Do you want to make him a liar and the son of man a liar too to make your false Catholic doctrine fit? It is fitting that Yahuah says HE DOES NOT LIE in case we forgot.
Numbers 23:19
Eloheem is not a man, that he should lie; neither the *son of man, that he should repent...
The Scriptures Refute "Jesus is God" by Declaring Yah'ushua (pw Jesus) as the "Son of Man"
According to Matthew 1:1, Yah'ushua (pw Jesus) is the SON OF ELOHIM, the SON OF DAVID, SON OF ABRAHAM. He is a man, but most importantly he is the SON OF MAN. Every time this term is mentioned referring to Yah'ushua we remember that Elohim (pw God) has already categorically stated that the Son of Man is NOT Elohim according to Numbers 23:19 as above.
In the (REC) Renewed Everlasting Covenant (pw New Testament) it is said 89 times!
Mat 8:20 (KJV) And Yah'ushua (pw Jesus) saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.
Mat 9:6 (KJV) But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.
Mat 11:19 (KJV) The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.
Mat 12:8 (KJV) For the Son of man is Master (pw Lord) even of the sabbath day.
Mat 12:32 (KJV) And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
Mat 12:40 (KJV) For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Mat 13:37 (KJV) He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
Mat 13:41 (KJV) The Son of man shall send forth his malakhim (pw angels) , and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;................."
etc., etc., see my book as I cannot fit all the 89 verses (Mat Mark Luke Acts and Rev) in here
From my free book on my website "Why Jesus is not God / Why Yahushua is not Eloheem"
Great video as always!!😄
The trinity doctrine is unscriptural. God said, "Is there a God beside Me? ..
I know not one" (Isaiah 44:8). The one God being referred to is the Father in heaven. The Lord Jesus said, "Father...that they may know You, the only true God..." (John 17:1, 3). The apostles explained, "yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things.." (I Cor. 8:6). But this truth is hidden in mystery from those outside God's commissioning. Let's study God's words in the IGLESIA NI CRISTO (CHURCH OF CHRIST)
Ephesians 2 verse 18. " For by Him ( Jesus) we have access by the Spirit ( Holy Spirit) to the Father. Thats the trinity.
JOHN 3;13 IS THE REMEDY. AND ACTS 2;38 IS THE REMEDY FOR THE BIGGEST LIE OF ALL HISTORY" THE SINNERS PRAYER" PAUL WROTE 13 OF OUR NEW TESTAMENT BOOKS, HE WAS BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST FOR THE REMISSION OF HIS SINS AND TELLS US IN HIS OWN WORDS:ACTS 22;6-16 AND LATER PREACHED IT: ACTS 19;1-1-7 THHAT APOSTLE PAUL, NEVER REPEATED A SO CLLED SINNERS PRAYER PEOPLE THINK THEY SEE A TRINITY IN THE BIBLE BECAUSE THE DONT KNOW THE FACTS, THE TRINITY WAS INTRODUCED IN 325 AD AT THE COUNCIL OF NICEA BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE CATHOLIC INSTITUTION, DEVILS KNOW GOD IS ONE JAMES 2;19 JUST THE TOPICOF ONE GOD FRIGHTENS THEM THEY HAVE BEEN AROUND WAY LONGER THAN MAN, LOOK IN A BIBLE CONCORDANCE, FIND THE SINNERS PRAYER, FIND THE TRINITY. .... (CRICKETS CHIRPING)
Thank you for this succinct explanation of the doctrine of the Holy Trinity. God’s blessings...
There is no such thing as a Trinity. Only one God.
Where is the explanation? This belief is garbage man. No 2 trinity beliver carries the same benefits which shows you that you guys are confused. God is one and he says there is none with HIM! If I say there is no one with me at home but I am here father son and husband please tell me your gonna tell me I am home with 2 more persons. Smh father son holy spirit are all titles talking about the one God
Can I ask sir? But why did Jesus, or Peter or Paul never taught this belief in an obvious manner? If trinity is true in its existence, it should have been preached consistenly from the very beginning when Jesus started his minsitry and passed down to the disciples. Jesus always introduced God and son and nothing more. If we claim that trinity is the right belief because it is now being preached in churches, are we implying that Jesus and the apostles are wrong? because they never preached such a thing. I just need clarification.
You are right friend and you are blessed to see it. The apostles didn't teach it, therefore we shouldn't believe it. Please, see how Jesus defined eternal life in John 17:3. Also compare 1 Corinthians 8:6. The truth is, Jesus is not God, He is THE SON OF GOD, a man, the promised seed of David. That's what qualifies Him to be God's Christ, meaning God's anointed one.
The foremost commandment is that God is one. Jesus is the example for us, so if you want to know how you are supposed to keep it, you just have to see how Jesus kept it. And He worshipped His Father alone as God. So should we.
Thank you. I enjoyed this explanation. Great job. I believe in the Holy Trinity.
Not sure why you would believe in a lie but ok..
The Clark Kent theology 😅 I always was taught that we human beings consist of three,the flesh,the mind and the soul. As we’re modeled after God but can’t physically manifest all different coexisting personas at the same time,which God can because he’s God. I personally think that the concept of not being able to understand something but it still being like it is,is so hard for people to fathom..that’s exactly why it’s only possible for God
Hope that made sense 😅
Well, not Biblically, but, I know what you're TRYING to say. God bless you "Geoffrey."
"Co-existent Personas." Brother "Geoffrey," TELL me--are we "three different personas?" Please allow me to break that down for you. First of all, the "body--or FLESH," is NOT a "persona." Without the Soul, or the Mind, the body would be nothing more than an intricate, complicated mass of organic tissue--definitely NOT a persona. Secondly, we have but ONE Soul--ONE mind. These do NOT make up TWO personas. The Mind, without a Soul would be nothing more than a robotic intellect WITHOUT personality, reason, compassion, love, etc. Do you STILL think this analogy "holds water?" Furthermore, I/We do NOT possess a "2nd, or 3rd-Person" WITHIN us--we are but ONE individual with ONE Soul, One personality, One character--one NATURE...ONE!! Therefore, when examined a bit CLOSER, this analogy actually supports the "Singular" nature of our Mighty God. I hope you get a chance to read this Geoffrey. God bless you and your family.
@Arthur Ash "Arthur," you must have misread my comment. I, in fact, do NOT believe in a "Trinity." But God bless you for your passion on the subject.
@Arthur Ash Now THAT'S what we like to "hear." Brothers who care for each other. Carry on, faithful soldier!
BUT GOD IS NOT HUMAN
Trinity... You mean the concept that was invinted by Tertullian and was rejected completely by a majority of the known church Bishops of the time, but was forced on everyone... that Trinity?
Why cause such confusion?
1 Timothy 3:16
16And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
No three "persons" about it.
God was manifest in the flesh. (That would be Jesus who was both fully man and fully God)
Jesus was preached unto the gentiles. (as to where your "1st person god was not).
God came down in flesh.
Hence Jesus statement ..I an my Father are one (That word doesnt mean one in spirit.. it means one in number). Or When you have seen me, you have seen the Father.
Tertullian taught so many other things that were bunk, yet this was swallowed.
which explains why so few bishops came to the Nicean Council and why even less sighned the creed... but I digress.
Your saying that "Oneness" is modalism is also incorrect.
God did not cease becoming God when he came down in flesh (As the Bible says). He did not start becoming God again when Jesus was "Recieved up into Glory".
God is, was, and always will be.
Period. When you get to heaven, theres not going to be this Bodiless spirit sitting on a throne, Then Jesus standing to the side, then the Holy Ghost flapping around like a Dove....
There will be Jesus (God manifest in the flesh).
MerchantMonk this makes sense
TXMadep214g it Did to me when I read it in the Bible.
Its taught in thousands of churches across the us and many more across the world.. (UPC, WPF, AMF, and a slew of independent or charismatic churches)
"Oneness" doctrine has been around since the Apostles taught it... spread with Pauls trips through Asia, an wasnt corrupted until Tertullian invented the Trinity a hundred years after the Apostles died.
Matthew 28
18¶Jesus came and told his disciples,“I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth.
19Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.
That's not right. The father and son are one, and the holy spirit and God are one. (Basically in 1 there are 3 and the 3 are 1)
The holy spirit lives in us.
1 John 3
24Those who obey God’s commandments remain in fellowship with him, and he with them. And we know he lives in us because the Spirit he gave us lives in us. - this just said that since the spirit lives in us, God lives in us. So God and the spirit are one.
Matthew 28
20Teach these new disciples to obey all the commands I have given you. And be sure of this: I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”
Colossians 3
11In this new life, it doesn’t matter if you are a Jew or a Gentile, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbaric, uncivilized, slave, or free. Christ is all that matters, and he lives in all of us.
You see Jesus wasn't with his disciples in the flesh, but he told them that he would always be with them. The only explanation is that he and the spirit are one.
Lets looks at that Scripture....
Baptizing them in the what? ... the Name.
Is that word singular, or plural?
Singular.
SO what's the name of the Son? Well, that would be Jesus.
What's the name of the father? Well, that would be Jesus.
What's the name of the Holy Spirit? Well, that would be Jesus
At least according to this scripture (And every other)
Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not names, they are titles.
So this scripture is telling you to do what?
Go, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of Jesus.
There is so much mental gymnastics taking place here. What we are being told here is that there is God the Father, who is God, God the Son who is God and God the Holy Ghost who is God. However, they are not 3 God's, there is only one God. But, 3 doesn't go into 1 for a reason.
It really doesn't matter what way you explain the Trinity, it can't be understood and a preacher can claim he understands it but he can't. However, he can make you feel stupid because you don't really get his explanation and you nod your head in agreement not wanting to show everybody else that you must be stupid when in reality, they are all feeling like you but are nor going to admit to it. Its like the Kings new clothes.
When Jesus was teaching in parables, he explained to his disciples why He did so, 'Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of Heaven, but to them it is not given'. ('Them' are those who teach without authority and teach things they do not understand). 'For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed...'
When you enter into the private, holy, sacred and hallowed attitude of prayer, who or what do you visualise you are praying to? Is it a glorified being that you know hears your heart and your mind or is it 3 person's who are united seamlessly with 6 legs, 6 arms and 3 heads like something out of a Hindu painting, or is it a cloud, or is it a mist with a voice. I pray to my Father in Heaven, who I am the image off and who Jesus told me to pray to. It's very simple really. I know that the Saviour sits at the right hand of God and hears my expressions of love for His atoning sacrifice for me and I can feel the presence of the Holy Ghost who is attending me and hears my prayer too. 3 God's, one in unity, with one mind, one understanding but with different functions. I don't have to let on I understand the nature of the Godhead, I fully get it.
The trinity is not mentioned in the Bible. There are more Scripture that talk about the separateness in the Bible than ones that can be twisted to create concepts like the Trinity. It arose in Carthage around 170AD, created by pagan philosophers including Tertullian. It is not scriptural and although Constantine demanded that it be accepted at the Council of Nicea in 323AD, they were still fighting about the definition 300 years later. It didn't make sense then and it doesn't make sense now.
Thank you Allen for the video ❤️
God bless you ❤️
🙋♂️ monotheistic trinitarian here lol
THE TRINITY AND THE WORD MONOS
whoever believe in the trinity can not be considered a monotheistic person the trinity states that there are separation of persons that means more than one person; Monotheism is a word that means only one God as a person no three persons.
THE WORD MONOTHEISM
the word : MONOS in the Greek means only one no more than one body.
the word : THEISM means God. The word MONOS in Greek never, never is used to Christ as God only to the Father. 1 Timothy 6: 15-16; John 17: 3; 1 Timothy 1: 17; Mark 13: 32
it is not possible to be a Trinitarian and monotheistic at the same time. they are two opposites words.
@@pedrorodriguez230-e2u Bingo! And there you HAVE it! Well done.
@@pedrorodriguez230-e2u Amen, and AMEN!! If they would only LISTEN...God bless, good brother.
ContraDICTION!
That's an oxymoron
Babel = confusion
precisely what this is.
Now I’m not agreeing with the trinity but in theory, science has proven 3 things can be one. Everything in the universe (except energy) is made of matter, and, so, everything in the universe is made of atoms. An atom itself is made up of three tiny kinds of particles called subatomic particles: protons, neutrons, and electrons...... even are very universe is made of time, space, and matter another 3. Idk but this isn’t really confusing. If you think about it if course
@@MVilla011 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗧𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗗𝗼𝗰𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗲 𝗜𝘀 𝗙𝗮𝗹𝘀𝗲
𝙂𝙤𝙙 𝙞𝙨 𝙄𝙣𝙫𝙞𝙨𝙞𝙗𝙡𝙚:
1 𝐉𝐨𝐡𝐧 4:12 (𝐊𝐉𝐕)
𝑁𝑜 𝑚𝑎𝑛 ℎ𝑎𝑡ℎ 𝑠𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝐺𝑜𝑑 𝑎𝑡 𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑡𝑖𝑚𝑒. 𝐼𝑓 𝑤𝑒 𝑙𝑜𝑣𝑒 𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑎𝑛𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟, 𝐺𝑜𝑑 𝑑𝑤𝑒𝑙𝑙𝑒𝑡ℎ 𝑖𝑛 𝑢𝑠, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑙𝑜𝑣𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑓𝑒𝑐𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑛 𝑢𝑠.
1 𝐓𝐢𝐦𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐲 1:17 (𝐊𝐉𝐕)
𝑁𝑜𝑤 𝑢𝑛𝑡𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐾𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑒𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑎𝑙, 𝑖𝑚𝑚𝑜𝑟𝑡𝑎𝑙, 𝑖𝑛𝑣𝑖𝑠𝑖𝑏𝑙𝑒, 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑜𝑛𝑙𝑦 𝑤𝑖𝑠𝑒 𝐺𝑜𝑑, 𝑏𝑒 ℎ𝑜𝑛𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑔𝑙𝑜𝑟𝑦 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟. 𝐴𝑚𝑒𝑛.
𝐄𝐱𝐨𝐝𝐮𝐬 33:20 (𝐊𝐉𝐕)
𝐴𝑛𝑑 ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑖𝑑, 𝑇ℎ𝑜𝑢 𝑐𝑎𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑠𝑒𝑒 𝑚𝑦 𝑓𝑎𝑐𝑒: 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑠ℎ𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑛𝑜 𝑚𝑎𝑛 𝑠𝑒𝑒 𝑚𝑒, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑙𝑖𝑣𝑒.
𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒍 𝒕𝒓𝒖𝒕𝒉 𝒊𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝑮𝒐𝒅, 𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑭𝒂𝒓𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓 𝒊𝒔 𝑺𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕, 𝑮𝒐𝒅 𝒄𝒂𝒏𝒏𝒐𝒕 𝒃𝒆 𝒔𝒆𝒆𝒏, 𝑮𝒐𝒅 𝒊𝒔 𝒏𝒐𝒕 𝒂 𝒘𝒉𝒊𝒕𝒆 𝒉𝒂𝒊𝒓𝒆𝒅 𝒐𝒓 𝒘𝒉𝒊𝒕𝒆 𝒃𝒆𝒂𝒓𝒅𝒆𝒅 𝒃𝒆𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒍𝒊𝒌𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑴𝒂𝒊𝒏𝒔𝒕𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒎 𝑴𝒆𝒅𝒊𝒂, 𝑪𝒂𝒕𝒉𝒐𝒍𝒊𝒄𝒔 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝑷𝒂𝒈𝒂𝒏𝒔 𝒅𝒆𝒑𝒊𝒄𝒕, 𝑮𝒐𝒅 𝒉𝒂𝒔 𝒏𝒐 𝒑𝒉𝒚𝒔𝒊𝒄𝒂𝒍 𝒇𝒐𝒓𝒎, 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕'𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒔𝒐𝒏 𝒘𝒉𝒚 𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑩𝒊𝒃𝒍𝒆 𝒅𝒐𝒆𝒔𝒏'𝒕 𝒕𝒆𝒍𝒍 𝒖𝒔 𝒘𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝑮𝒐𝒅 𝒍𝒐𝒐𝒌𝒔 𝒍𝒊𝒌𝒆, 𝒃𝒆𝒄𝒂𝒖𝒔𝒆 𝑮𝒐𝒅 𝒊𝒔 𝑰𝒏𝒗𝒊𝒔𝒊𝒃𝒍𝒆.
𝙏𝙝𝙚 𝙃𝙤𝙡𝙮 𝙎𝙥𝙞𝙧𝙞𝙩 𝙞𝙨 𝙂𝙤𝙙'𝙨 𝙎𝙥𝙞𝙧𝙞𝙩
1 𝐂𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐚𝐧𝐬 3:16 (𝐊𝐉𝐕)
𝐾𝑛𝑜𝑤 𝑦𝑒 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑦𝑒 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑡𝑒𝑚𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝐺𝑜𝑑, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑆𝑝𝑖𝑟𝑖𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝐺𝑜𝑑 𝑑𝑤𝑒𝑙𝑙𝑒𝑡ℎ 𝑖𝑛 𝑦𝑜𝑢?
𝐄𝐳𝐞𝐤𝐢𝐞𝐥 36:27 (𝐊𝐉𝐕)
𝐴𝑛𝑑 𝐼 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑝𝑢𝑡 𝑚𝑦 𝑠𝑝𝑖𝑟𝑖𝑡 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛 𝑦𝑜𝑢, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑡𝑜 𝑤𝑎𝑙𝑘 𝑖𝑛 𝑚𝑦 𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑢𝑡𝑒𝑠, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑦𝑒 𝑠ℎ𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑘𝑒𝑒𝑝 𝑚𝑦 𝑗𝑢𝑑𝑔𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑠, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑑𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑚.
𝐆𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐢𝐬 1:1-2 (𝐊𝐉𝐕)
𝐼𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑏𝑒𝑔𝑖𝑛𝑛𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝐺𝑜𝑑 𝑐𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 ℎ𝑒𝑎𝑣𝑒𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑒𝑎𝑟𝑡ℎ. 𝐴𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑒𝑎𝑟𝑡ℎ 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑚, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑣𝑜𝑖𝑑; 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑑𝑎𝑟𝑘𝑛𝑒𝑠𝑠 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑢𝑝𝑜𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑎𝑐𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑑𝑒𝑒𝑝. 𝐴𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑆𝑝𝑖𝑟𝑖𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝐺𝑜𝑑 𝑚𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑑 𝑢𝑝𝑜𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑎𝑐𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑤𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑠.
𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑯𝒐𝒍𝒚 𝑺𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕 𝒊𝒔 𝒏𝒐𝒕 𝒂 𝒅𝒊𝒇𝒇𝒆𝒓𝒆𝒏𝒕 𝒅𝒊𝒔𝒕𝒊𝒏𝒄𝒕 𝑮𝒐𝒅 𝒐𝒓 𝒃𝒆𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒍𝒊𝒌𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑻𝒓𝒊𝒏𝒊𝒕𝒂𝒓𝒊𝒂𝒏𝒔 𝒕𝒆𝒂𝒄𝒉. 𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑯𝒐𝒍𝒚 𝑺𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕 𝒊𝒔 𝑮𝒐𝒅'𝒔 𝑺𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕, 𝒃𝒖𝒕 𝑮𝒐𝒅 𝒊𝒔 𝒂𝒍𝒔𝒐 𝑺𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕, 𝒉𝒆𝒏𝒄𝒆, 𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑯𝒐𝒍𝒚 𝑺𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕 𝒊𝒔 𝒒𝒖𝒊𝒕𝒆 𝒍𝒊𝒕𝒆𝒓𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒚 𝑮𝒐𝒅. 𝑻𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒚 𝑩𝒊𝒃𝒍𝒊𝒄𝒂𝒍 𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒊𝒕𝒆𝒓𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒍𝒆𝒕 𝒖𝒔 𝒌𝒏𝒐𝒘 𝒄𝒍𝒆𝒂𝒓𝒍𝒚, 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑯𝒐𝒍𝒚 𝑺𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕 𝒊𝒔 𝒈𝒊𝒗𝒆𝒏 𝒕𝒐 𝒖𝒔 (𝑩𝒚 𝑮𝒐𝒅) 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒅𝒘𝒆𝒍𝒍𝒔 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒏 𝒖𝒔 (𝑩𝒆𝒍𝒊𝒆𝒗𝒆𝒓𝒔), 𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒔𝒖𝒑𝒑𝒐𝒓𝒕𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒏𝒐𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝑮𝒐𝒅 𝒊𝒔 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒏 𝒖𝒔 (𝑩𝒆𝒍𝒊𝒆𝒗𝒆𝒓𝒔)
𝙅𝙚𝙨𝙪𝙨 𝘾𝙝𝙧𝙞𝙨𝙩 (𝙏𝙝𝙚 𝙎𝙤𝙣 𝙊𝙛 𝙂𝙤𝙙)
𝐂𝐨𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐧𝐬 1:15 (𝐊𝐉𝐕)
𝑊ℎ𝑜 𝑖𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑖𝑚𝑎𝑔𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑖𝑛𝑣𝑖𝑠𝑖𝑏𝑙𝑒 𝐺𝑜𝑑, 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑖𝑟𝑠𝑡𝑏𝑜𝑟𝑛 𝑜𝑓 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦 𝑐𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒:
1 𝐓𝐢𝐦𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐲 2:5 (𝐊𝐉𝐕)
𝐹𝑜𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝐺𝑜𝑑, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑚𝑒𝑑𝑖𝑎𝑡𝑜𝑟 𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑤𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝐺𝑜𝑑 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑚𝑒𝑛, 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑚𝑎𝑛 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡 𝐽𝑒𝑠𝑢𝑠;
𝐉𝐨𝐡𝐧 14:7 (𝐊𝐉𝐕)
𝐼𝑓 𝑦𝑒 ℎ𝑎𝑑 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤𝑛 𝑚𝑒, 𝑦𝑒 𝑠ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤𝑛 𝑚𝑦 𝐹𝑎𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑎𝑙𝑠𝑜: 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑓𝑟𝑜𝑚 ℎ𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑒𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑡ℎ 𝑦𝑒 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤 ℎ𝑖𝑚, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑠𝑒𝑒𝑛 ℎ𝑖𝑚.
𝐉𝐨𝐡𝐧 10:30 (𝐊𝐉𝐕)
𝐼 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑚𝑦 𝐹𝑎𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑜𝑛𝑒.
𝑱𝒆𝒔𝒖𝒔 𝑪𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒔𝒕 𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑺𝒐𝒏 𝒐𝒇 𝑮𝒐𝒅 𝒘𝒂𝒔 𝑮𝒐𝒅 𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒊𝒇𝒆𝒔𝒕𝒆𝒅 𝒊𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒇𝒍𝒆𝒔𝒉 𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒐𝒏 𝑬𝒂𝒓𝒕𝒉 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝑱𝒆𝒔𝒖𝒔 𝑪𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒔𝒕 𝒊𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒇𝒖𝒍𝒍 𝒊𝒎𝒂𝒈𝒆 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑰𝒏𝒗𝒊𝒔𝒊𝒃𝒍𝒆 𝑮𝒐𝒅 𝒊𝒏 𝑯𝒆𝒂𝒗𝒆𝒏 (𝑹𝒆𝒎𝒆𝒎𝒃𝒆𝒓: 𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑭𝒂𝒓𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓 𝑰𝒔 𝑺𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕), 𝒘𝒉𝒆𝒏 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒆𝒏𝒕𝒆𝒓 𝑯𝒆𝒂𝒗𝒆𝒏, 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒘𝒊𝒍𝒍 𝒔𝒆𝒆 𝑱𝒆𝒔𝒖𝒔 𝑪𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒔𝒕 𝒏𝒐𝒕 𝑮𝒐𝒅 𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑭𝒂𝒓𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓 𝒏𝒐𝒓 𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝑺𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕 (𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑯𝒐𝒍𝒚 𝑺𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕) - 𝒃𝒆𝒄𝒂𝒖𝒔𝒆 𝑱𝒆𝒔𝒖𝒔 𝑪𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒔𝒕 𝒊𝒔 𝑮𝒐𝒅'𝒔 𝒇𝒖𝒍𝒍 𝒊𝒎𝒂𝒈𝒆, 𝑰𝒇 𝒘𝒆 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒔𝒆𝒆𝒏 𝑱𝒆𝒔𝒖𝒔 𝑪𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒔𝒕, 𝒘𝒆 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒔𝒆𝒆𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑭𝒂𝒓𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓. 𝑻𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒊𝒔 𝒐𝒏𝒍𝒚 𝑶𝒏𝒆 𝑮𝒐𝒅, 𝑱𝒆𝒔𝒖𝒔 𝑪𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒔𝒕 𝒊𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒎𝒆𝒅𝒊𝒂𝒕𝒐𝒓 𝒃𝒆𝒕𝒘𝒆𝒆𝒏 𝑮𝒐𝒅 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝑴𝒆𝒏. 𝑱𝒆𝒔𝒖𝒔 𝑪𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒔𝒕 𝒉𝒂𝒔 𝒂 𝑩𝒊𝒃𝒍𝒊𝒄𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒚 𝒅𝒆𝒔𝒄𝒓𝒊𝒃𝒆𝒅 𝒑𝒉𝒚𝒔𝒊𝒄𝒂𝒍 𝒇𝒐𝒓𝒎 𝒊𝒏 𝑯𝒆𝒂𝒗𝒆𝒏, 𝑩𝒖𝒕 𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑭𝒂𝒓𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝑯𝒊𝒔 𝑺𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕 (𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑯𝒐𝒍𝒚 𝑺𝒑𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒕) 𝒅𝒐 𝒏𝒐𝒕 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒂 𝒑𝒉𝒚𝒔𝒊𝒄𝒂𝒍 𝒇𝒐𝒓𝒎 𝒍𝒊𝒌𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑻𝒓𝒊𝒏𝒊𝒕𝒂𝒓𝒊𝒂𝒏𝒔 𝒕𝒆𝒂𝒄𝒉. 𝑻𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒊𝒔 𝒐𝒏𝒍𝒚 𝑶𝒏𝒆 𝑮𝒐𝒅, 𝑵𝒐𝒕 3 𝑮𝒐𝒅𝒔 𝒐𝒓 3 𝒑𝒆𝒓𝒔𝒐𝒏𝒔, 𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒕𝒓𝒊𝒏𝒊𝒕𝒚 𝒅𝒐𝒄𝒕𝒓𝒊𝒏𝒆 𝒊𝒔 𝒄𝒐𝒎𝒑𝒍𝒆𝒕𝒆𝒍𝒚 𝒑𝒂𝒈𝒂𝒏.
𝗖𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗹𝘂𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻: 𝗝𝗲𝘀𝘂𝘀 𝗖𝗵𝗿𝗶𝘀𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝗾𝘂𝗶𝘁𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗚𝗼𝗱'𝘀 𝗳𝘂𝗹𝗹 (𝗩𝗶𝘀𝘂𝗮𝗹) 𝗶𝗺𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗺, 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗝𝗲𝘀𝘂𝘀 𝗖𝗵𝗿𝗶𝘀𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝗚𝗼𝗱, 𝗛𝗲 𝗶𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗼𝗻𝗹𝘆 𝗚𝗼𝗱
Dear Brother Allen, that is a good understanding of our Creator. Because 'Iron sharpens iron", I encourage you to follow this link and read "Jesus the Christ". Godspeed.
I enjoy your upbeat way of teaching! Thank you for taking the time to do these videos, they help tremendously!Please don't stop!
THE TRINITY AND THE WORD MONOS
whoever believe in the trinity can not be considered a monotheistic person the trinity states that there are separation of persons that means more than one person; Monotheism is a word that means only one God as a person no three persons.
THE WORD MONOTHEISM
the word : MONOS in the Greek means only one no more than one body.
the word : THEISM means God.
The word MONOS in Greek never, never is used to Christ as God only to the Father. 1 Timothy 6: 15-16; John 17: 3; 1 Timothy 1: 17; Mark 13: 32
it is not possible to be a Trinitarian and monotheistic at the same time. they are two opposites words.
@@pedrorodriguez230-e2u Are you a real pastor ?
If what’s in your comment is your stand, how do you explain John 1:1 ?
Please try to be as brief as possible.
@@pedrorodriguez230-e2u 🔴 ✝️ TRINITY EXPLAINED ... Praise God 🙌🏽
One God ... Father, Son and Holy Spirit ... ONE GOD.
1 ⭕️ There’s the Father God. The ‘Be All and End All’ ... He’s the Generator of the Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit. His OWN Two Other Perceptual and Role based Identities.
All Three Are Manifestations Of The One God.
He’s OMNIPOTENT, so He is able to do that. And He did.
1 ⭕️There’s “His Word”, Jesus. God the Son.
‘God’s Word’ can only be IDENTICAL TO GOD, right ? Logically, right ? The Word of God is the EXPRESSION OF HIS WILL, right ? That means Him in Essence. God. The Bible.
1 ⭕️ And there’s God’s Spirit, the HG, which can only be God Himself, rationally, logically.
Because your spirit is you, right ?
And God’s Spirit ... is the same God. That one’s easier than the other true godhead concept that Jesus is God.
He was born without a father. THE ONLY ONE IN HISTORY BORN LIKE THAT, without a biological father.
His Father is God the Father Himself. So Jesus is DIRECTLY ‘Of’ God. He has God nature.
AND THERE’S ONLY ONE GOD. The Bible says that.
So what God did on Christmas night is create a Clone of Himself in Jesus. With the Same identical Will.
So Jesus is the same God as the Father. And the Holy Spirit.
One God. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. One God.
The Father is more mysterious relative to the Lord Jesus Christ …
Nobody ever saw the Father.
But Jesus is very accessible because He was here with us for over 30 years, looking exactly like us … but He’s God nonetheless. It is God come to live with us through becoming like us for a period.
Pray about this, and listen to what God tells you about it.
Jesus is Lord. God bless you.
✝️💙🙂
@@gherieg.1091 The word WAS God, the word BECAME flesh, which is the Son of God. What was the Father became the Son. The Son manifested the Father.
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What ? 😲
Great explanation. Clear as water. Bless you. Keep up the fantastic work of our Savior.
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Yah, MUDDY water.
Reading the comments makes me think everyone is even more confused 😂
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I just want to tell y'all that you are loved, so very much!!! That there was a man that came and died for you!! What kind of love that must be!!!! In John 3:16 God says that He loved the world (you), so much that He gave His only begotten Son (Jesus), so that whosoever (I'm a whosoever, are you a whosoever!!!) believes in Him, shall not perish, but have eternal life!!! So, to receive this free gift of Salvation, all you have to do is to believe that God's Son, Jesus Christ, came, died, was buried and rose again, as it says in 1Corinthians 15:1-4! Jesus came and died for you!!! He paid your sin debt in full!! You are free!! And He is coming back any day now for His church!, His bride, Hid body! All you have to do is believe that He is who He says He is and that He did what He said He did!!! Hallelujah!! It's a free gift!!! You are Saved by God's Grace through Faith in Christ Jesus!!! Believe it!!!! Believe in Him and receive His free gift!!! Hurry, before time runes out!!!! Love Him back!!!!!
@@reatile god bless yhu i understand alot better my guy
@@Estelarodr how?
deuteronomy 6:4) our lord is 1 not no 3 in 1 triune God head..
(Mark 12:29) jesus quoted the (Shema) important our Lord is (1) not no 3 in 1 Godhead.
(1st corethians 11:3) God is Head of Christ.. Bible head system and trinity is not even mentioned
(John 14:28) Jesus says Father is (Greater) then him not equal Trinity.. The trinity is False made up by (Satan the Devil) who is controlling the World right now (1st john 5:19).
@@tiffanywright6653 John 10:30 says I and my father are one. Which make equal to God cuz they’re the same. When Jesus said my father is greater than I he was talking in human form. Philippians 2:5-7 explains this. Jesus also said whoever had seen me have seen my father.So he basically said there’s no difference between him and God .John 1:1 says Jesus is God.
Thanks!
Hey guys I’ll add my 2 cents from the perspective God shown me. The first 3 verses of the Bible explains the trinity in One:
In the beginning *God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was formless and empty, and darkness covered the deep waters. And the *Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters. Then God *said, “Let there be *light,” and there was light.
Genesis 1:1-3 NLT So where you see the asterisk shows you the 3 persons in one being. Then if you go to John 1 1-5, he then explains how Jesus and God we’re together in the beginning. The word was with God, and the word WAS God
Very simple
The trinity doctrine is unscriptural. God said, "Is there a God beside Me? ..
I know not one" (Isaiah 44:8). The one God being referred to is the Father in heaven. The Lord Jesus said, "Father...that they may know You, the only true God..." (John 17:1, 3). The apostles explained, "yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things.." (I Cor. 8:6). But this truth is hidden in mystery from those outside God's commissioning. Let's study God's words in the IGLESIA NI CRISTO (CHURCH OF CHRIST)
Yes. You figured it out. God bless you.
@huhn huhn Jesus is not the Father. Jesus is the Son. And by your scriptures you posted seems to prove the Trinity more than Jesus being the Father. We are not detached, this is from thousand years of church history. And what the apostles also taught in scriptures.
@huhn huhn So which part of God do you deny? The Father, the Son, or the Holy Spirit?
Simple
In the NAME of the father, son and holy spirit.
Singular
Ralph Joseph Merced Which was not in the original text. The Catholic church forced that one in. Notice Peter and Paul only baptized in the name of the Messiah Yahshua. RESEARCH!!!
Correct, singular, Jesus Christ the Lord
Careful Jai, it is indeed in the Scripture. Yes in original it was same in My name, however the other passages, if combined together, says otherwise that indeed, people are going to be baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. That's what the Catholic Church teaches and believes, as it has been since Christ and the Apostles through Apostolic tradition.
In the name of...what name? Answer. JESUS
@@jaiminor Yes!
For those disclaiming the Holy Spirit...I thought Jesus told his apostles after resurrection that there would be another coming to help them - the Holy Spirit. If this isnt God the Holy Spirit then what is it?
bro, if you can spend only 9 minute to really know the absolute answer of your question with logic, then this link is for you.. yeah maybe he is a man from different faith. but that doesnt matter. at first, let your ear listen and let your brain judge whether you got your exact right answer or not.. but if you stop watching the video after 1 or 2 minute and say, he's not a cristian, so i won't find my answer here.. then it'll be like, closing your eyes you're crying to see the sun. btw after watching full video if you think you didn't get your answer.. then I'm sorry for wasting your time. good luck. peace 🖐️😀
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Three person who are fully god
That’s polytheism
What's two Gods are one God?
The Word and God were the two Gods of John 1:1's definition of God in the beginning.
The God became the God of Israel and then the Father of Jesus.
The Word became flesh as Jesus, in the form of a servant, was no longer a true God (to worship).
good day
No matter how hard you try
You believe in three all powerful,All knowing
Which is clearly three gods
You believe each person is fully god
Which makes it three gods
Calling me a stupid won’t change the fact
@@3321-u1u It's time to be honest. People need to settle it that MANY CAN BE A ONE. 1st Corinthians 12:12 says a body has many members yet it is one body, even as believers are many members of the one body who is Christ.
By Scripture standards believing three Gods are the one God, nor the three disciples Peter, James, and John are the inner circle of Jesus' disciples would be wrong. As Jesus told Saul (later named Paul) Why do you persecute me? When Saul had been persecuting Jesus' disciples and not Jesus physically.
I don't agree the Spirit of God is part of the Trinity one God in which three Gods are the one God.
God has prepared things for those who love him and reveals them by his Spirit: 'for the Spirit searches all things yes the deep things of God ' to know them to show them the things God has prepared for them that love him. 1st Corinthians 2:9-10.
We know that the Spirit of God knows (Greek, knows but not by experience) these things because he is a man [as man was before he had his own material spirit of man within him Genesis 2:7a-d] within God's God material Spirit man body. The fact that God, knowing best, sends or at least the Spirit searches all things yes the deep things of God shows the Spirit of God doesn't know without searching to know them. The Holy Spirit of God is not God nor part of the Godhead nor part of the TRINITY'S one God.
The parallel thought is of God's Spirit of God with man's spirit of man is a man even as man's spirit of man is a man who knows (Greek, knows but not by experience) the things of his man because he is within his man (to be able to search all things yes the deep things of his man, as does the Spirit of God within God's material body). 1st Corinthians 2:11a, 1st Corinthians 2:11b.
Nowhere in Scripture is it shown that a man's spirit of man is equal to the man except the spirit of man is sent representing him 1st Corinthians 5:4. The Holy Spirit of God is not God nor part of the Godhead nor part of the TRINITY'S one God.
@@muhammedshanushan3931 To make Scripture reconcile there should be an honesty that as many members make up one body 1st Corinthians 12:12 - many members of believers can make up the one body of Christ, as Jesus questioned Saul (later named Paul) Why do you persecute me? when Saul was persecuting his disciples - so many Gods can be honestly understood as one God, even as the many gods of Egypt went by one major name with their individual names.
I don't agree that the Spirit of God is one those Gods: 'the Spirit searches all things yes the deep things of God ' to know (Greek, knows but not by experience) the things of God to include the deep things of God unless he searches for them. What God would need to search all things to include the deep things of God to know them? The Holy Spirit of God is not God nor part of the Godhead nor part of the TRINITY'S one God.
Leonard Hunt
One group of gods
That’s polytheism
The trinity doctrine is unscriptural. God said, "Is there a God beside Me? ..
I know not one" (Isaiah 44:8). The one God being referred to is the Father in heaven. The Lord Jesus said, "Father...that they may know You, the only true God..." (John 17:1, 3). The apostles explained, "yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things.." (I Cor. 8:6). But this truth is hidden in mystery from those outside God's commissioning. Let's study God's words in the IGLESIA NI CRISTO (CHURCH OF CHRIST)
Thank you for letting them know
JAMES 2;19 JOHN 3;13 YOU ARE SO RIGHT.
This makes no sense. One God, but 3 distinct persons that are all equal. This is like a square circle. And if god the son died, then god died because they are all equal and coexist. Why does god send himself as a sacrafice to pay himself to forgive people. This video only rasies more questions. Such a important part of the faith, yet there is no mention of trinity of in the bible.
You are absolutely right; many Christian denominations that teaches the Trinity. However, notice what the Encyclopedia Britannica states: “Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies.”
The true fact is, the God of the Bible is never described as being part of a Trinity.
Notice these Bible passages:
“Jehovah (Yahweh) our God is one Jehovah.”-Deuteronomy 6:4.
“You, whose name is Jehovah (Yahweh) , you alone are the Most High over all the earth.”-Psalm 83:18.
“This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.”-John 17:3.
“God is only one.”-Galatians 3:20.
“My Father is greater than I [Jesus].”-John 14:28. *
“I [Jesus] ascend unto my Father, and your Father, and to my God, and your God.”-John 20:17.
“To us there is but one God, the Father.”-1 Corinthians 8:6.
“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”-1 Peter 1:3.
“These things saith the Amen [Jesus], . . . the beginning of the creation of God.”-Revelation 3:14. *
"No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him". John 1:18
“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Mathew 7:21
"Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One.10 Neither be called leaders, for your Leader is one, the Christ.11 But the greatest one among you must be your minister" Mathew 23.9
"Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’ Mathew 7:22-23
Yes Jesus is the Son of God and not God himself. He has a divine nature and in that sense is called God, but he is a totally separate individual. We are saved by believing that he is the Christ and the son of God and in his atonement, not by believing a man made doctrine such as the trinity.
Because Jesus spoke of the "Father," the "Son" and the "Holy Spirit," the church decided at the Council of Nicene that Jesus must have been referring to "Three Persons in One." Consequently, people pray to the "Father" to ask for benefits, implore the "Holy Spirit" to instruct them spiritually and pray to the "Son" to "save" them from their "sins."
Can you begin to "see" how "earthly and humanly conceived" are these beliefs?
Can you also see how "emotionally based" they are?
Because of the emotionalism and the promise of a "free trip to Heaven on the heels of the Savior," these beliefs have become a humanly conceived religious structure to enshrine an empire of Church within earthly empires - Rome, Austria, Spain. These beliefs have been the excuse for wholesale torture, and death by burning and execution of dissidents. These beliefs have inspired wars between nations.
But the "spiritual perception" and "creativity" arising out of some of these beliefs have also contributed much to existence in the past two millennia.
These beliefs have been the reasons for building of cathedrals, churches, monasteries, convents, giving people a stable purpose, the ability to express their artistic gifts and provided work for the less talented. These beliefs have also directed millions of the consciousness of people towards the higher realms of beautiful thought and love. These beliefs have even been the impetus behind mysticism and enlightenment when spiritual souls have come to see the Reality previously hidden by these beliefs.
While this has been happening, these beliefs have also created the conditions for the development of echelons of religious supremacy and immeasurable grandeur and wealth. These are humanly conceived and created edifices of "Ego-impulses" and are therefore, from a spiritual standpoint - entirely spurious.
Just as Jesus came in human body over 2000 years ago, to rescue the Jewish nation from religious beliefs and practices, so has Jesus returned through the medium of the Christ Letters, A Course In Miracles and A Course Of Love distributed worldwide, to make it abundantly clear that the "Christian Religion" in no way reflects his true CHRIST message either as he taught it in Jerusalem - or at this present time when the Christ Letters, A Course In Miracles and A Course Of Love will arouse the fury and condemnation of orthodox "Christians." The Christian religion, as it stands at this time, is only a hotchpotch of the muddled thinking of the disciples' selective recollections and Paul's worthy homilies and other early writings. Much later, when the impact of Christianity lacked the visual effect of the gods and goddesses of the Romans, the Christian religion was adorned with "theatrical" but "expedient" nonsense to impress those whom the Ecclesiastical Empire of Rome desired to draw into their fold. This empire later imposed monetary burdens on the gullible people even more iniquitous than the taxes demanded by the secular Roman Empire on conquered nations. Even Caesar did not demand payment for souls to gain entrance to heaven!
You may wonder why Jesus is so explicit in his rejection of "Judaism" and "Christianity." It is vital to the success of the distribution of his CHRIST MESSAGE that Christians should fully understand the true nature of religions which held humankind in their grip until the 20th century. Therefore, until Christians do realize the mythical foundations on which they have placed all their convictions, Christians will find it difficult to let go of cherished beliefs. Please understand that when Jesus makes such statements, he is referring to "Christian religion," to the "tenets of faith," to the "dogma and theology." Jesus is not referring to those great spiritual souls who have sought - and continue to seek God and Truth beyond the dogma and beliefs. Jesus knows Christians have received the inspiration of God into their minds and hearts but are afraid to let go of cherished beliefs. Christians are hampered by religious beliefs and practices. But the time has come for Christians to let them go and grow in spirituality and awareness of the true SOURCE of BEING.
Excellent video. I have recently been saved and this is helping me understand my permanent religion for the rest of my existence. Thank you
Friend, listen to Jesus. This man is a false teacher, a wolf. Jesus taught us to beware, so beware. Jesus also said that the only true God is His Father. John 17:1-3 So did Paul in 1 Corinthians 6:8. Who will you believe when your eternal life is on the line. Jesus or Allan?
The trinity makes so much sense because:
Whenever God wants to do something with his almighty he first wills it, then he does it. That’s how God always works, first willing something and then doing it.
For example: How does God make it that he is eternal. He does the following.
First God wills to be eternal and then he uses the power to realize this will.
so the commandment that God gave himself to be eternal has always existed, he never created it, it has always been there. He can’t just create the commandment to be eternal. Also, the power of God which implements this commandment that he is eternal has always existed, he never created it. He can’t just create the power that makes him eternal
So these things have always existed:
God, the word of God (Jesus) and the power of God that implements the word of God (Holy Spirit)
Only God is eternal because to be eternal you have to be omnipotent , that is why the word of God and the power of God that implements his word (Holy Spirit) are God.
That’s why the the Bible makes soooo much sense when it says
In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God.
It makes soooo much sense why there HAS TO BE three persons that are one God, and not only one person.
If there is an omnipotent being it has to be always triunion otherwise it can’t exist
When Jesus is talking to the father, is he talking to himself? I am still confused..
Gabex ! He is teaching us how to talk to god
No he's talking to the Father..One person talking to another..
@LSmoove 79 he is one but he can separately perform as 3
Father son and Holly spirit. 3 personality of god
Human have this too. Body soul and spirit
As always, great video! Thank you!
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Go look up where the trinity originated. You might be surprised. It was formed in 325 AD. Not in the original transcripts of the Bible. My Bible says don’t add to or take away from the Word
Thank you For sharing God’s word to us
It’s fake
This wasn't God's words sister this message is of the devil. God isn't a trinity and anyone who believes that will be thrust into hell. I wanna ask u, is father a name? Or son a name? Or holy spirit? Those are titles not name the name who holds all those titles is Jesus the christ.
I completely agree with your theology. TD Jakes has not recanted his belief.
I didn't think so either. I checked his website the other day before I did this video and his doctrinal statement still had "manifestations" instead of "Persons" in the description so that let me know that he hadn't. Thank you for the confirmation Cindy.
But "Cindy," you should "agree" with GOD'S word--NOT just your favorite "You-Tuber." Just SAYin.'
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Has TD Jakes said that he is a modalist? Just because someone believes in 3 manifestations of 1 God doesn't mean that they are restricted to one manifestation at a time
TD JAKES SAYS YOU SHOULD GO TO ANY CHURCH THAT YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE IN, SHEESH THATS SOMEONE TO LOOK UP TO...
I like your teaching. Sometimes I am pressed for time. You “be brilliant, be brief, and be gone”😂 God bless you!!!
The Prophecy of Isaiah (ref. Isaiah. 9:6) has not yet been fulfilled... WHY?... the Prophecy said (in part), "The GOVERNMENT shall be (future tense) upon HIS (Christ Jesus) shoulder,"... WHEN will this be?... During Christ Jesus' MILLENNIAL REIGN of (1000-Year) Rule upon the Earth with an IROD ROD...
Christ Jesus will be called/addressed on Earth the TITLES... "Wonderful COUNSELOR, Mighty GOD, Everlasting FATHER, Prince of PEACE, (King of KINGS, Lord or LORDS) and will NOT be addressed as PRESIDENT, or PRIME MINISTER, or HAIL CAESAR, nor Mighty/Powerful EMPEROR, etc...
Take Note #1: ...those names given by Prophet Isaiah were TITLES during Christ's Millennial Reign on Earth (not in Heaven) and NOT GOD's "State of DIVINITY and NATURE"...
Take Note #2: ...Even though Christ Jesus has ALL the AUTHORITY on Earth and in Heaven given by His Father God... (ref. Matt. 28:18)... Father God (YHWH) still holds ALL the POWER to Rule/Reign Heavens and Earth, even over His own begotten SON, forever... FATHER GOD (YHWH) will forever RULE/REIGN the HEAVENS... The Son/Word/Christ will always be on the RIGHT HAND/SIDE of His Father God's (YHWH's) TRHONE eternally... for Christ Jesus (Word/Son) is NOT Father God (YHWH) HIMSELF... God is not ABSOLUTE ONE...
Take Note #3: ...God is the TRUTH who does not CHANGE (Identities) forever/eternally... (ref. Malachi 3:6)... God does not LIE, CLAIM, PRETEND, or DISGUISE someone HE is not.
Facts and Truth of the matters, Biblically and Logically speaking... Praise be to God in Christ. Amen.
I agree. My way of explaining the trinity is: we are made in the likeness of God. God is perfect and we are imperfect. So just as we have a body, spirit, and soul, God also has 3 parts, in a more perfected way. Because He is perfect, He can exist and work simultaneously in all 3 - unlike us, we can only really be conscious in one at a time. My soul, spirit, and body are not the same, they function differently, they have different jobs, etc, but all 3 are me. I believe in a more perfected sense, this is what the trinity is.
Thank you brother Allen! People have been arguing with me on this subject & this is what I’ve been telling people But they’re keep saying GOD , JESUS, THE HOLY SPIRIT are the same person & you can pray to all 3. Scripture never says pray to JESUS or the HOLY SPIRIT. Aren’t we lead by the HOLY SPIRIT, saved by the blood of JESUS & our relationship to the FATHER through CHRIST?
Wow great question i see what what you are saying !
You are correct. Many haven’t received that revelation. Matthew 16:16-18
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
can you explain your question?
God speaks to us through His Word by His Spirit
Not us only you
Hey am Richard and I would want you to clarify some statement for me
1. The word distinct refers to one being different in characteristics so therefore what do you mean they are distinct being
2. I would like you to defend the Us in Gen 1:26?
3. I believe God is one he only works or let me say manifest himself in three different ways at the same time of which makes me accept the usage of the word coexist
But i want to call your attention that God is One person and he manifested himself like I said earlier cos he has the power to
Or let me use these illustration to get it better He's similar to we Human in three manifestation which Body,Soul and Spirit but that does not mean we are three person we are one person
What am just bringing out in essence is that we need to carefully check the word we use in describing God
I for one do not accept the word personality because it literally means differences of which in the Godhead there's no difference just a Personality in three different manifestation at the same time
How is what we don't know because he's Great
When the Apostles baptized people they ALWAYS baptized "in Jesus name"!!! Just read the book of ACTS!
So?
Because the majority of Christianity down through time are not baptized In the biblically explicit narrative of the Scripture.
It is stunning when you see all the scriptures set apart for how people are to be baptized (NOT in tradition or even in the one scripture that is in Matthew.... but what the Bible actually captures as how Christians were baptized -without exception.
And it has been lost.
And this is without denial or question no matter who it is.
Because denial of it is flat out wrong.
And I'm a "Trinitarian".
Every other addressing of this problem... falls flat.
After the immediate presence and vicinity of original belief,
It has been lost in time.
And only a few have been baptized in that way.
Luke 13:23 ESV
And someone said to him, "Lord, will those who are saved be few?"....
@@scottcarter1689 I see verses that talk about both Trinity and Oneness.
Both teachings show truth and BOTH have false teachings.
I do not care about what everyone is doing. I let the verses teach me and I care about God.
His GRACE is sufficient.
@@scottcarter1689 I was baptized in Jesus name, so I guess not all is lost
Sound doctrine right here keep going sir!!!!
Sir Douglas th-cam.com/video/Fo7ab7Mpz94/w-d-xo.html sound doctrince lol are you serious what scripture was used to prove this madness?
Teaching Kingdom Truth NYC John 1-5-7 the 1st chapter of John’s gospel. Not saying he referenced the above but these are Basic truths of “Christian”doctrine. Now the question is are you a “Christian” are you new age or are u apart of a non Christian cult Hebrew Israelites or whatever..... you might want to sit down with your pastor and go over biblical doctrines before you address or troll. Have a good 1.
Sir Douglas you said this basic "Christian" doctrine? You mean "Catholic" Doctrine. This 3 Gods as 1 does not exist, there is only one God the Father 1COR 8:6. Nowhere in the Holy Scriptures do you see "GOD THE SON" or "GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT", only GOD THE FATHER. I do identify as a Christian, but i dont use that Blasphemous Latin name JESUS to call upon him, go to my channel you will see why. 100%proof. This video proves the Trinity false th-cam.com/video/ZpGyhoYTLXU/w-d-xo.html
Please listen this will bless you and explain the truth.
Grace and Peace.
Teaching Kingdom Truth NYC straw man argument family I never said 3gods or mentioned Roman Catholicism there’s 1 God anything more is polytheism.... Hopefully you know the difference from being and person also you’re all over the place bringing in different opinions on what I first stated.... for the sake of argument I believe 1 God 3 persons that’s number 1
2. We say Jesus or Yahweh or Yesus Christos it’s not Latin it’s derived from the Greek might want to study that out sir.
3. Your page doesn’t edify nor feed the flock or Gods elect.. your argumentative and u major in the minors attacking non Christian cults who don’t hold to true biblical teachings ... the Trinity is proven biblical doctrine JESUS wasn’t a ventriloquist.... Idk who’s teaching your under you might want to reevaluate your situation. Allen said this at 1.09 mark of the video listen to it again.
Sir Douglas not 3 Gods 3 persons you say. So God is 3 personalities and not 1 God the Father? Please define what is a person?
Amen!! God bless you brother, May The Peace Of The Lord Yahweh be with you.
Yahwe is the devil
@@cashed-out2192 YHWH is God you seriously need to repent. Using God's name in vain like that. My goodness.
@@KyrieEleisonMaranatha Why does it say that, Oh let me guess. A Hebrew novel. A Greek Tragedy, A Shakespeare Sonata
@huhn huhn the trinity is taught from Genesis to Revelation. If you deny the trinity you deny God.
Peace be with him for lying to people? This brother isn't saved and needs to repent for all this lie he teaching on social media. All who follows these lies will die in there sin
Well, for us to know God we need scriptures as said in 2 Peter 1 vs 20-21 which reads:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
This means that if we compare and study scriptures, we get answers and teachings on all Spiritual matters including the Trinity, also because 1 John 4 vs 1 says:
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
This gives the Bible the power to judge prophets, doctrines, philosophies and sermons spoken to enhance Christianity, so if we say this topic (of the Trinity) cannot be easily understood by mortals or should I say, "the finite cannot understand the infinite", then 1 John 4vs 1 should be altered so that the Bible is not to be used to accept prophets, teachers doctrines and anything taught to christians.
Therefore, I believe the Trinity should be explained using Bible verses more, for instance the Topic "Jesus died for our sins" cannot be taught without verses that; prophesied of His coming, outlined His mission and proved His accomplishment of the mission, this is meant to show that God planned for the coming of Jesus to die for our sins so as to refute any notions by people that a man just died then Christians want to claim a random act to make it their doctrine.
Now on trinity, I have only managed to see quotes of pieces of scripture, then when I read the entire chapter, I find that the context is different from the one given in trying to explain the existence of the 'Trinity concepts' in the Bible. Also, if the Trinity is central to Christian Faith why can't we explain and defend it Biblically?
I also have a problem on the co-equal concept of the Trinity members, because Jesus prayed to God which means He is inferior to the one He prayed to; then the Holy Spirit is sent which means the one who sends is more powerful; again, Jesus and the Holy spirit have a mission to honor God, give praise to God, convict people of God's word, accomplish God's mission and plan for mankind as well as to bring people to God. So basically, Jesus and the Holy spirit work for God. Jesus once said, 'all that I do I saw from my Father'; and He also said, 'I bear witness to my Father', this means that Jesus' instructions and references was not His but the Father's, a sign that they are not equal.
So, this doctrine, issue or concept called Trinity should be explained using scriptures so that 1 John 4 vs 1 will not be used to dismiss the trinitarian doctrine.
IT CAN BE EXPLAINED. THE TRINITY WAS INTRODUCED COURTESY OF THE CATHOLIC INSTITUTION IN 325 AD AT THE COUNCIL OF NICEA THIS CAN BE PROVEN USING A GOOD OL LAP TOP, THE TEACHING OF THE TRINITY ALWAYS COMES AFTER A PERSON IS TAUGHT "THE SINNERS PRAYER" ACCEPTING OR RECIEVING CHRIST AS ANYTHING IS NEVER FOUND IN THE BIBLE, EVERY COVERSION THAT IS WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE IS ACCORDING TO ACTS 2;38 REPENTANCE FOLLOWED BY BAPTIZM IN THE NAME(SINGULAR) OF JESUS CHRIST FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS, FOLLED BY RECIEVING THE HOLY GHOST, GODS OWN SPIRIT, JESUS DECLARES HE HIMSELF AS THE OMNIPRESENT GOD IN JOHN 3;13 ISAIAH 9;6 IS TOO CLEAR AS IS ROMANS 14;10-12 CHAPTERS 10 AND 11 OF ACTS ARE THE FOREVER RECORD OF HOW "WE" GENTILES ENTER THIS BEAUTIFUL PICTURE CALLED CHRISTIANITY PAUL THE APOSTLE WAS BAPTIZED AND SAYS IT IN HIS OWN WORDS IN ACTS 22;16, PREACHES IT IN ACTS 19;1-7 TWICE IN ACTS 16 JESUS SAID AFTER HIS RESURRECTION" HE THAT BELIEVES "AND " IS BAPTIZED SHALL BE SAVED BUT HE THAT BELIEVES NOT SHALL BE DAMNED MARK 16;16 1 PETER 3;21 OUTRIGHT SAYS BAPTIZM "SAVES US" NOT THE WATER BUT THE "SINGULAR NAME OF JESUS CHRIST" THE DEVILS KNOW THIS: JAMES 2;19 GALATIANS 3;26-27 SHOW NOT JUST FAITH BY ITSELF BUT THAT FAITH ALWAYS OBEYS
Ps. 2:7 says "Thou art my Son; This day have I begotten thee." To anyone WITH a brain, this is telling them that the Son did NOT yet exist as the Son!!!!!!! STOP and THINK for a moment.
Maybe try Listening to Pastor John Barnett as well.
@@jesussavemetoday975 What does he believe, or teach????
Thank you for this! Also, concerning your statement on the Mormon and Jehovah's Witness cults, in the very first sentence written in our Bibles, "In the beginning GOD created...", the word "GOD" in the original Hebrew is "Elohim", PLURAL! In the Book of Hebrews, Chapter 1, verse 8, we see GOD the Father referring to His Son Jesus as "GOD". Also in Psalms 2:7, Acts 13:33, 2 Samuel 7:14, and many other references.
It's SO IMPORTANT because "There is none other Name under Heaven given among men whereby we must be saved." JESUS! THIS IS John's "Revelation", that JESUS IS GOD!
AMEN TO THAT SISTER!
God Jesus bless you Continually!
I agree Allen Parr, I was just discussing this about a month ago and there are alot of christains who believe in the holy trinity. They are different in the roles that they are in. Thank you for the word that God puts in your spirit to share.
Theres only one God and he is not a plurality of persons JESUS said search the scriptures for in them you think you have eternal life. The trinity is a doctrine hatched in hell and it will send you to hell JESUS said you will die in your sins if you don't believe He is God of the Old Testament John 8:24 JESUS reveals God in all of His fullness Col 2:9
@@rogerthompson4379 Bible says
The Father is God
The Son is God
The Holy Spirit is God
Yet the Bible says there is only one God
How do you reconcile this? The Trinity
Hi. Please help me, so how do we worship them together as in one God? Or automatically when you worship Jesus you also worshiping God and the Holy Spirit at the same time?
No, Jesus says to worship God (the Father ) only, not him or the Holy Spirit.
*John 4:21*
Jesus said to her: “Believe me, woman, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father.
*John 4:23*
Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him.
*John 4:24*
God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him (not us or them) must worship with spirit and truth.”
*Revelation 19:10*
At that I fell down before his feet to worship him. But he tells me: “Be careful! Do not do that! I am only a fellow slave of you and of your brothers who have the work of witnessing concerning Jesus. Worship God! For the witness concerning Jesus is what inspires prophecy.”
Excellent explanation, Btw TD Jakes is still a modalist.
I'm just now seeing this video, but Is T.D.Jakes still a modalist today?
@@Holly-ly9iw I believe he still is. To my research and knowledge he has NOT recanted his statement even to this day.
To God be all the Glory. 🙌🏽👐🏽🙌🏽 You hit the nail on the head with this piece Pastor. @Allen Parr
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you said "God be all the Glory"....like which God that gets the glory out of those 3 in one? 🤣🤣🤣
THEIR IS NO TRINITY, YOU CAN'T SEPARATE THEM , JESUS SAID IN JOHN 14:9-11 THAT IF YOU'VE SEEN ME ,YOU'VE SEEN THE FATHER, FOR WE ARE ONE, SPIRIT , FATHER SON HOLY GHOST ONE SPIRIT PERIOD
Amen!! 💯💯
JACQUES HUISWOUD I agree
not one person tho
But he didn't mention the Holy spirit though
Ah too many dumb people around...how can they not get it...so much easier than 8 x 15 duh
So when Jesus is baptized. Jesus is in the water. We hear a voice saying “this is my Beloved Son in who I am well pleased.” Was that Jesus talking to Himself?
No, Jesus is God’s representative on earth, being the only human to achieve perfection and be a perfect temple of God. You could, by analogy, liken a perfect human (a human one with God in heart) to being the physical body of God, and God the mind of said body, and thus you could say when you see Jesus that you saw God, but he is not literally God himself.
Jesus calls God ‘Father’, and God called him ‘Son’, at the cross Jesus said ‘my God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?’ With these words Jesus confirms he is talking to someone separate from him. Much of the Bible is symbolic, metaphorical, and poetic.
No, he was talking to the real God, his Father. The trinity is a false doctrine, that's why so many say it's a 'mystery'. The Bible was written for us to understand, and not confuse people. The trinity does nothing more than waste time arguing about something that is not mentioned once anywhere in the Bible, it's a total fraud. Pray to God THROUGH Jesus, and that will be fine.
Very good explanation of the Trinity! 👍
Colossians 1:15 KJV - Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Revelation 3:14 KJV - And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
Who is this?