If you bring the guild back to its complete Glory by getting all the major holds on your thumb and completing the Barenziah Stone Quest you actually can have regular conversations with him instead of him just blowing you off like that.
Me: **become guild master, made the money for everyone, and put the thieves guild back in the good graces of Nocturnal** Dirge: I don't care if you're friends with the Guildmaster....I'll bash in your skull if you try anything.
Brynjolf: we can take it head on or sneak around, whatever you decide to do lass, we’ll follow Me: okay well it’d save us a lot of trouble if we sneak so let’s quiet down and.. *Brynjolf roars out a battle cry and runs headfirst at the enemy* Brynjolf: lass
Funny enough Tonilia isn’t officially part of the thieves guild but rather just their fence. You can hear dialogue between her and Delvin in which Delvin will say along the lines of asking her to officially join the guild as a thief rather then just their fence.
@@Arvel_The_Swit Yeah she says it pretty frequently, apparently my female Redguard Dragonborn is hot enough to make her real insecure or something, must be all the mods I use lol :p
@@jamescolm1133 if you were talking to me and insult. You know those quests where people have a negative disposition towards you and then you beat the s*** out of him and then your friends? Well that's what I want with dirge because he's a cocky annoying fucktard.
Also, barenziah re-wrote the books to hide the fact that she had a child with the nightingale. Also, that child was the mother for no other than Karliah.
Hay Nate! A tiny Skyrim detail I found out about this week, is that while Boar Meat from the Dragonborn DLC cannot be cooked, it is possible to find a single piece of Cooked Boar Meat in Morvayn Manor.
Okay seriously Nate are you sneaking on me?! The other day I got that special glass bow and now I just finished a mission in Solstheim that got me the Blackguard’s Armor Are you following me? If so please don’t sneak murder me to death
Yes I indeed did find that letter and I JUST gave the thing to her. That sapphire is permanently gonna be in my special safe where I keep ALL the super rare crap I find
David Shaw dude I’ve been getting my speech up since I started this character and my god I’m at 49 and ALMOST have it at 90 for now. Got the blackguard hood, a speechcraft amulet and some glibness potions I’m getting this fucker up to 100 even if it kills me
@@mindyauron don't you worry. with speech 100 you can talk yourself out of being killed. probably. maybe. unless you dont make neloth that Canis root tea he asked for. then you doomed. dead. finito. another pile of ash for solstheim to be covered with. sorry about my rambling. i like Roleplay. even in a comment section. :p
Interesting part about that, one of the black books boosts your force shout to where it can disintegrate some foes, insinuating that he may have gained access to that book.
I've been sleeping to these videos every night for 2 months straight. Just put it on autoplay, go to bed, listen until the battery dies. Sometimes I get nightmares that matches whatever video is playing. And yes, I've watched all facts videos, several times over, even before this weird habit.
You definitely should be given an NPC in the next Elder Scrolls game. You should be a follower, and every time the player goes somewhere you should just tell facts about that place.
Rune's theory is impossible, though, as the Cowl's curse was lifted on the 4th era by the Hero of Kvatch. Interesting backstory, but probably just cut content.
At the end of the quest there was 1 person living 2 lives - The Grey Fox and then The Player, you could have taken your mask in front of NPC and they wouldnt realise it, which means nobody knows who Grey Fox is ( the only one is the ex Grey Fox that gave us the mask, curse and title ). So all we know is that Rune was found when he was a "Young Boy", and lets be honest, how much do we remember from our childhood. So it can be still possible that one of his parents is the Grey Fox.
@@metetural9140 I dont really think its a memory lose, because basically everything he knows is from the fisherman, so i believe he was really small and he just doesnt remember anything from his past live, maybe he was traveling from one parent to the other on the boat, and when they found out that it crashed they moved on. But ye, the grey fox theory isnt very possible but, you never know.
The curse on the cowl was removed centuries ago, during oblivion, it no longer erases people from history. When you put on the mask, your memory remains, people just don't know that it's you and wonder where you've gone.
Tiny Detail: In Whiterun, the ingredient Nightshade, can only be found at Arcadia's Cauldron (an Alchemy shop) and Whiterun's Hall of the Dead (specifically the Gravestones). Other than standard fare for an Alchemy shop, this implies that Whiterun citizens plant Nightshade on the graves of their dead. Carlotta Valentia is a single mother merchant of Whiterun, whose husband has passed away. The Valentia House is the only other location to have Nightshade on its premises in Whiterun, hidden between the wall and the house itself. With this information, it could be implied that the husband was unceremoniously buried behind the house, almost as if it was done in secrecy. The Enchanter's Primer secretly tucked away between the dresser and bed, may suggest that the husband didn't leave willingly...
I just finished this quest line. I haven’t played this game in 5 years and everything felt so new. Completely forgot about the ending and the quests leading up to it. One of the best questlines in the game. Walk with the shadows.
Can’t wait until the next game comes out. I still and will always love Skyrim but I think we can all agree that constantly getting new armor sets and not expecting Mercer to betray you was awesome in your first play through.
Would've loved the thieves guild way more if mercer ended up not being the villain, would've been cool if the elf chick actually did kill gallus and made up a whole plot to get back into the guild and frame mercer, it was just stupidly obvious he was bad from the start... I think that was my biggest problem with the skyrim factions, not that the missions were boring or anything, the plots were all just too predictable with obvious bad guys
The fact that the mysterious and rude thalmor agent spying on the school was shockingly revealed to be, *gasp* the main villain of the college of winterhold, really made that story disappointing
Not to get started on the underdeveloped generic bandit look of the Silver Hand who could’ve been a rouge splinter faction from the Companions trying to hunt out the Werewolves within the Companions and stay true to Ysgramor’s memory instead of being literal Daedra worshipping Werewolves.
I like that mercer was the villain. Cuz too many times elves are often the cause or villain of a quest. You go to a random cave, read a journal, it an elf or wizard being the issue
When you said "as you attempt to reverse the guilds decline" I realized that applies to pretty much every faction quest in the game.... Bards College, Thieves Guild, Mages Guild, Dark Brotherhood, arguably the Companions....
Just to clarify something about the Morag Tong, they were legal in Morrowind. There's a full faction quest line where you work for them, and guards will let you go after you kill your target since you have a Writ of Execution in your inventory. You also get to kill some Dark Brotherhood members as part of the quest line, because they're banned on the island.
I loved every thing about the Thieves Guild except for two Notes, ‘Shipment’s Arrived’ and ‘Timely Offer’. I took the notes literally and spent hours looking for the contents espoused in the notes. I searched every inch of water in, out, and around Riften trying to find that non-existent crate of glass arrows! Did anyone go searching for these Notes’ contents?
Y'know, I was never happy about having to pledge my soul to Nocturnal. My character wanted his soul to go to Sovngarde to be with his people. I would always roleplay that he was secretly hoping to get out of it somehow.
Honestly, as the dragonborne you have promised your soul to so many people that once you die there's probably bound to be some tug-of-war going on. That is, of course, assuming the dragonborn doesn't become a god in their own right by their death, in which case they could potentially just armwrestle the daedras one by one.
here's a fun fact never mentioned in-game, Vekel was once an orphan at Honorhall. Meaning he definitely had to deal with Grelod growing up, kinda sad that they didn't make him comment on that
@@shwildin, Glover Mallory in Raven Rock. If you're a member of the Guild, you get a dialogue option to point out the Shadowmark near his door. Comment on it, and he'll give you a quest to retrieve something of his. Complete it, and he'll give you a key to his basement, where you can take any and all inside, including a letter he writes to his daughter, but never sent.
The Nightingale armor is the best (in my opinion,Not in stats,But in the design)too bad I didn't go with the stealth build Also the animation they did for the thief's guild quest-line are amazing and I wish they did more of them in the game
Anis BEng they should have done more with the nightingales like maybe rebuild them and bring them back to its old glory days I guess you could say or like some sort of quests with them
@@septimussignus4603 shhhh. there there. you will get it one day. ZOINK! you won't. because you will turn into a PILE OF ASH! (insert evil laughter here)
I'm kind of proud of myself that the only thing I wasn't aware of was the nightingale thing. Other than that, I was completely aware of everything else because I spend WAAAAY too much time with the guild (I love the thieves guild so much)
Hmm just as I thought... the one to do with a different Elder Scrolls is unknown. I feel that I might have discovered a type of syndrome. I shall call it the Skyrim Syndrome. Where one person plays Skyrim but refuses to play or learn from anything from a different elder scrolls. I better get a Nobel prize for this...
@@metetural9140First off, not original (but nothing is). Second, a lot of people were introduced to Elder Scrolls through Skyrim, that's not a bad thing! Do you really expect someone to know every little detail about every single game whether they've played them or not? It's ridiculous to think that! I've played 3 so far and I definitely don't know that much. Besides videos like these help point people to new information they might not have known about that universe, in fact people might be MORE likely to play the other games if they see something that sounds neat!
@@DaBayleef first off, it would be original if those original people are... wiped from existence... Second, did I say that? I only said that it was ironic that the one to do with another elder scrolls game that wasn't skyrim was not known. That the skyrim community is mainly just a bunch of people who played skyrim and no other elder scrolls game. Third: I disagree. Well with this video atleast. Yes lore and fact videos are very good for people to learn but it isn't when Nate gets things blatantly wrong. Then people think it's right, spread it around and make people believe it.
@@metetural9140 1. Ah yes, I might've misinterpreted the second part a bit because with the way it's worded to me it sounded like you were saying a person will only play Skyrim and pretend the rest doesn't exist or something like that (refuse is a very strong word to use because it's an extreme like never or always so it might sound better but could misconstrue your point. Gotta love essays!) 2. For the most part people should usually take whatever is presented to them at face value (we don't, but we should) because not everything we get told is true, we just hope it is. Fact checking is always a good idea so you don't spread misinformation, but for a game and things like it, it's not the end of the world if something is wrong and if people want to learn more about something and find out "hey this thing was wrong" then cool! If Nate says something wrong, point it out to him and direct him to a SOURCE so he can fix the misinformation! Just telling me that he gets things wrong doesn't help your case too much because you gave me a statement, no proof. 3. When I read your initial comment, it didn't come off as being a joke, it seemed a little rude. If I misinterpreted it completely, I'm sorry about that. I hope this clears things up.
I'm pretty sure Vipir also referred to Sapphire as a "stupid cow" as well then says "You dont know what you're missing!" Nate must've not like it and cut that part out, well played.
I dont know whether you already cover this or not but i'll share it anyway: 1. Sapphire is actually the daughter of Glover Mallory (the blacksmith on Raven Rock, Solsteim) 2. You can find out about this, if the player has registered as the member of the thieves guild, the player can actually talk to Glover as he is actually one the members of thieves guild and the brother of Delvin.... then, after that Glover will give you a quest which upon completion, he will give you access to his basement filled with loot.... and in that basement you can find a letter Glever wrote for Sapphire 3. And you can actually take that letter and give it to sapphire... and that will unlock unique dialog from her and personally i think it would hopefully give her some closure(?) To her tragic past I think it still counts as "secret of the thieves guild" cos the game never actually tell us (directly) about this... even the act of giving the letter to Sapphire wont show in your quest journal... Amazing video as always Nate, keep up the good work
From what I remember... (it's been a loooong ass time since I played Morrowindle). The Morag Tong are nothing like the Dark Brotherhood, the Morag Tong are legally sanctioned assassins, hence the "Writs of Execution" that you get, you use them if you get caught by the law, basically tells the guards to let you assassinate the target and leave you alone xD...I miss the Morag Tong... I like the idea of lawful assassins haha.
No no no no no. Completely wrong. The Morag Tong and Dark Brotherhood are extremely different. They hate each other and the Morag Tong where the ones who killed the Night Mother. The Morag Tong are a legal guild of assassins in Morrowind and kill people for money and to serve justice. Unlike the Dark Brotherhood who just kill for Sithis.
Actually, Tonilia will sometimes mention her relationship with Vekel to the player saying something along the lines of "Vekel and me have a thing going. Try anything and it'd be bad for your health." So I guess she has a bit of a jealous streak too. Lol
The Gray Fox was only involved in the Cyrodiilic branch of the Thieve's Guild, not the whole of Tamriel. The Theive's Guild as a faction is not like some sort of interconnected web across all of the continent, it's largely independent if you look from province to province, but they're unified by the fact that they are all Thieve's and Criminals. Also, by the end of the Thieve's Guild questline the Gray Cowl of Nocturnal had the Curse lifted from it, meaning it doesn't make any sense if one of his parents was the current Gray Fox. This is just my take on the information we're given though, so if anyone's got anything to add feel free
3 things I dislike about the Thieves Guild is you can't take Brynolf, Karliah, Vex, or any of the members as followers, you can't upgrade the Nightingale Hall, and Brynolf has glitched dialogue
The problem with all these Gray Cowl theories is that everyone just ignores how the curse of being removed from history was lifted, making most theories involving the Gray Cowl just in general a moot point
Fact: Sapphire was supposed to be a marriable character after completing a quest to find out about her father. However Bethesda cut this from the game, you can still find out the truth about her father if you the Dragonborn DLC (but if you do, do not try the Bedlam Job, you will get Raven Rock and it is glitched).
Idk, if I was Vex I'd probably take Delvin up on his offer. That was a pretty saucy letter 😏. But I kinda wish you could help Sapphire "take care" of Vipir the Fleet.
The Volcano didn't destroy all of Morrowind, just Vvardenfell and as we discover it wasn't total, they were and are rebuilding Vvardenfell. If you search around and listen, you discover Balmora and Vivec City are being rebuilt.
Regarding Rune, I suspected the exact same thing. in fact, I started reading books because of that character. I started reading every single book and note I could because part of me wanted to solve that mystery. My suspicion? The player was supposed to be a Nightingale, and Rune was to become the new Guildmaster and it would be a kind of partnership, and he'd have quests as well to go on - like restocking the guild bank with riches. I was hoping for a Fable III type turn where the player had to build up wealth for the guild to help restore their influence.
It might be a bit crazy, but I found a lot of similarities between Rune's backstory and Lone Starr from Spaceballs. Always thought it was an Easter egg. Maybe Rune is an "Honest to god prince."
How about the little-known fact that Karliah is the granddaughter of Queen Barenziah herself? For reference, see "The Nightingales, Vol. 2" by Gallus Desidenius (in-game book).
Your characterization of the player interaction with the Morag Tong in their Dragonborn DLC storyline made me laugh so hard, I had to stop the video. Great job!
Me: If we need to kill Karliah why not ask the literal assassin? Mercer: ... Because plot. Me: Oh ok, lets go. As for whats next, how about College of Winterhold?
Hunter Otte: The assassin dude only shows up after you do a bunch of missions to restore the guild, which comes after the mission where you hunt her down.
The Thieves guilds biggest secret is that they don’t just steal anything. They go after the Sweetrolls and all the other valuables are traded for sweetrolls.
I just beat this questline! It started awesome when your sneaking and crimin' about, then kinda went off the rails w/ Mercer Frey/Karliah storyline. Didn't realize this was one of the tougher questlines.
If you didn’t know, Sapphire is actually Delvin’s niece, as if you gain access to Glover’s basement in Raven Rock you find a letter addressed to Sapphire, referring to her as Glover’s daughter.
Yeah, I found that out in a different video. Then, after my character helped Glover with his two quest, she got the keys from him and went into the basement, found the note, returned it to Sapphire and she rewarded my character with an exquisite sapphire. But she still won't say what her real name is.
I find it hilarious when Ravyn Imyan tells us his past and that the Dark Brotherhood would have his head if they knew he was in Skyrim, as he is a former Morag Tong member when the Dragonborn is potentially the listener and current leader of the Brotherhood, and I would love to see a mod that allows us to tell him we are the Listener and current leader of the Brotherhood.
Ps: The glowing blue runes on the Grey Fox Mask/ Nocturnal's Cowl says "Shadow Hide You." You might even recognise the second last rune (second from the bottom) as the "O" rune, synonymous with and ubiquitous through Oblivion.
Me: clicks video
Brynjolf: Sorry lad... I've got important things to do. We'll speak another time
*ANGER
*internal screaming and holding the urge to kill him*
Nazeem: *Do you get to the cloud district very often?*
If you bring the guild back to its complete Glory by getting all the major holds on your thumb and completing the Barenziah Stone Quest you actually can have regular conversations with him instead of him just blowing you off like that.
M'aiq is done talking now go bother somebody else
Me: **become guild master, made the money for everyone, and put the thieves guild back in the good graces of Nocturnal**
Dirge: I don't care if you're friends with the Guildmaster....I'll bash in your skull if you try anything.
That is why I sneak kill him, from there i just give Vex 1000g afterwards
Dirge are you on skooma or something? Because I am the guild master
just fus ro da the ceiling to assert domonice
Stevonnie Jenkins I thought I was the only one who does that 😂
@@tacothief2444 Nope, I also shout when the bards sing 'The Dragonborn Comes'.
Brynjolf: we can take it head on or sneak around, whatever you decide to do lass, we’ll follow
Me: okay well it’d save us a lot of trouble if we sneak so let’s quiet down and..
*Brynjolf roars out a battle cry and runs headfirst at the enemy*
Brynjolf: lass
that happened to me lmao
That didn't happen to my game. We actually sneaked our way through the falmer camp, or maybe cuz I play it with novice difficulty!
2040:
Skyrim: 10 different ways to pronounce the word “Skyrim” you may have missed.
more like it'll be '10 versions of Skyrim you may have missed'
Rampage Razi Can’t wait until Skyrim comes out on the mini fridge
10 more Nate mispronunciations you may have missed, Part 256
Skyrim
Skyrum
Skeerim
Skerem
Skrum
Skerym
Skirem
Scirium
SKURYM
skim
Pixel Sheep Skoorim
Skskskyrim
Skyreem
That Nightingale armour set is just beautiful
It makes me look like a medieval batman which is why its so awesome
I wonder what mod that is
I love it
@@usp3p12 Frankly HD nightingale armor
Nightingale hood looks great with ebony mail too.
Funny enough Tonilia isn’t officially part of the thieves guild but rather just their fence. You can hear dialogue between her and Delvin in which Delvin will say along the lines of asking her to officially join the guild as a thief rather then just their fence.
But she does wear the uniform sooo..
Somebody into cosplay
always breaks my heart when i realise i can't help rune find his parents
*Modders Assemble!*
There is a quest that you can do.
@@ElvenPrince Well I know but you only find his dad, and he's dead, and then you find NOTHING about his mother
What quest??
elven prince yo, what quest?
The first one is not surprising cuz if you play as a female character Tonilia will say: " Stay away from Vekel, he is MY boyfriend".
She also says: "Vekel and me, we have a thing going. So I recommend you keep your hands off the merchandise."
@@Arvel_The_Swit Yeah she says it pretty frequently, apparently my female Redguard Dragonborn is hot enough to make her real insecure or something, must be all the mods I use lol :p
@@ViniciusTeixeira1
This is really weird shit to be saying to somebody who's just walking by you.
she sounds like a bitch tbh
@@shyowl3453 nothing wrong with a healthy sense of jealousy
Nate: "In the Nightingales Volume 2..."
Also Nate: procedes to open Nightingales Volume 1
I guess you could say that Vex finds Delvin's advances towards her...vexing.
bruh
Guess because she's so vexed she wont be delving into a relationship with him....
....please kill me...the puns... they burn...
*CSI Music starts playing*
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH
****C E A S E****
Well, that's what he gets for Delvin(g) in too deep!
Delvin always reminds me of the creepy uncle, that tries to hit on your girlfriend.
I wanna ride him
@@zzzcocopepe - T H I C C D E L V I N
Everyday we steer further from God
@@zzzcocopepe wtf...?
Right theres my daily dose of cookie woke comments
Do you get to the ratway very often? Oh what am I saying,of course you don't
We just need BEthesda to add that in one of the mini-updates (the ones where they fix bugs/revive them) to Brinyolf...
Any one want to beat the $hit out of Dirge?
Is that a complement or an insult 🤔🤔🤔
@@jamescolm1133 if you were talking to me and insult. You know those quests where people have a negative disposition towards you and then you beat the s*** out of him and then your friends? Well that's what I want with dirge because he's a cocky annoying fucktard.
@@Darth_Supaku Vekel will have your throat slit in your sleep if you did anything, which is why you aren't given the option.
Great mysteries of the world:
Disappearance of the Maya
Formation of Stonehenge
Origin of Rune
Fun fact: The adoring fan is Rune's mother
*cough* gray fox *cough*
Sapphires name
Where Lydia is
@@Scagglett1726 And where has she taken my burdens?
Also, barenziah re-wrote the books to hide the fact that she had a child with the nightingale. Also, that child was the mother for no other than Karliah.
BDD wait.. Karliah is grand daughter of Barenziah?
@@frozenice9634 Grand daughter
Barenziah REALLY got around. She actually hooked up with Talos while he was still a mortal.
@@gadgetsoup *aphrodite
@@ibn_adham no, zeus. Aphrodite did not fuck around. Zeus did.
Us: Hey, we know these characters
Nate's textures: Do you? Do you really?
Not having a quest involving Rune was one of my biggest disappointments in the game.
Wait, what if we learn about it in ES6, like we find some trace that leads back or something o.O
@@SnapplyPie doubt it
theres a small one you return a book to him
Same
Hay Nate! A tiny Skyrim detail I found out about this week, is that while Boar Meat from the Dragonborn DLC cannot be cooked, it is possible to find a single piece of Cooked Boar Meat in Morvayn Manor.
you're right.
there's one in Shor's Hall too!
Okay seriously Nate are you sneaking on me?! The other day I got that special glass bow and now I just finished a mission in Solstheim that got me the Blackguard’s Armor
Are you following me? If so please don’t sneak murder me to death
it's the ONLY exquisite sapphire in the entire game, so it's a one-of-a-kind item.
Yes I indeed did find that letter and I JUST gave the thing to her. That sapphire is permanently gonna be in my special safe where I keep ALL the super rare crap I find
David Shaw sweet!! Endless riches here I come
David Shaw dude I’ve been getting my speech up since I started this character and my god I’m at 49 and ALMOST have it at 90 for now. Got the blackguard hood, a speechcraft amulet and some glibness potions
I’m getting this fucker up to 100 even if it kills me
@@mindyauron don't you worry. with speech 100 you can talk yourself out of being killed. probably. maybe. unless you dont make neloth that Canis root tea he asked for. then you doomed. dead. finito. another pile of ash for solstheim to be covered with.
sorry about my rambling. i like Roleplay. even in a comment section. :p
They say Ulfric Stormcloack murdered the High King... With His Voice! Shouted him apart!
Interesting part about that, one of the black books boosts your force shout to where it can disintegrate some foes, insinuating that he may have gained access to that book.
@@crazyjoeshorts5256 but he says it takes years to learn one shout
So I wonder if that’s the only shout he knows
Note to self: don't binge these frickin videos.
My brain while trying to sleep: - higuysit'snateherelet'sgetmurderedtodeath- X_x
Fuck same
I've been sleeping to these videos every night for 2 months straight. Just put it on autoplay, go to bed, listen until the battery dies.
Sometimes I get nightmares that matches whatever video is playing.
And yes, I've watched all facts videos, several times over, even before this weird habit.
"... I'll cut off your most valuable asset."
*dies of laughter*
2029:
Nate: 5 Hidden and Misleading things about the word sword
(part 2)
@@skrahnha 1.0000031 things you probably didn't know about Skyrim part 15
You definitely should be given an NPC in the next Elder Scrolls game. You should be a follower, and every time the player goes somewhere you should just tell facts about that place.
i would be scared of my nate follower being murdered to death
that would actually be cool ngl
Rune's theory is impossible, though, as the Cowl's curse was lifted on the 4th era by the Hero of Kvatch.
Interesting backstory, but probably just cut content.
At the end of the quest there was 1 person living 2 lives - The Grey Fox and then The Player, you could have taken your mask in front of NPC and they wouldnt realise it, which means nobody knows who Grey Fox is ( the only one is the ex Grey Fox that gave us the mask, curse and title ). So all we know is that Rune was found when he was a "Young Boy", and lets be honest, how much do we remember from our childhood. So it can be still possible that one of his parents is the Grey Fox.
@@Awop01 I highly doubt that Rune's parents were either the Gray Fox. I think just suffers from memory loss. Maybe he hit something in the boat crash.
If you want to find out more about him must look into other lands other than the one he was found.
@@metetural9140 I dont really think its a memory lose, because basically everything he knows is from the fisherman, so i believe he was really small and he just doesnt remember anything from his past live, maybe he was traveling from one parent to the other on the boat, and when they found out that it crashed they moved on. But ye, the grey fox theory isnt very possible but, you never know.
@@Awop01 yeah Bethesda might pull something out of their arse
The curse on the cowl was removed centuries ago, during oblivion, it no longer erases people from history. When you put on the mask, your memory remains, people just don't know that it's you and wonder where you've gone.
3:38, ouch, it's a good thing my character knows restoration magic because Vipir got burned!
Cobra
Adder
Rattle
Solid
Liquid
Naked
Vipir
Dude, bethesda should create a npc honoring you. A sort of historian perhaps. haha
The dragonborn is such a Mary Sue character an admirer would just rub it in.
@@soarrefly a common archetype in first person video games, however I still enjoy the game. Be well ☕
Natasha Figueroa it depends what you do with your Dragonborn 👏
Nate of the Archives.
Yes and make him be illiterate and cant speak properly.
Hands to yourself, sneak thief
I find your hand in my pocket,I'm going to cut it off.I've heard all of these guard now fuck off
*proceeds to pickpocket all the guard's items, including his armor
Tiny Detail:
In Whiterun, the ingredient Nightshade, can only be found at Arcadia's Cauldron (an Alchemy shop) and Whiterun's Hall of the Dead (specifically the Gravestones).
Other than standard fare for an Alchemy shop, this implies that Whiterun citizens plant Nightshade on the graves of their dead.
Carlotta Valentia is a single mother merchant of Whiterun, whose husband has passed away. The Valentia House is the only other location to have Nightshade on its premises in Whiterun, hidden between the wall and the house itself.
With this information, it could be implied that the husband was unceremoniously buried behind the house, almost as if it was done in secrecy.
The Enchanter's Primer secretly tucked away between the dresser and bed, may suggest that the husband didn't leave willingly...
YO. I gotta go check this out.
Aether Veilborne bruh that’s crazy Nate needs to make a vid on it
Fun Fact: Nightshade always grows naturally near the dead.
“There’s a good chance you’ll have kids to worry about by the time TES VI releases.”
That’s some shade right there
I just finished this quest line. I haven’t played this game in 5 years and everything felt so new. Completely forgot about the ending and the quests leading up to it. One of the best questlines in the game. Walk with the shadows.
"You don't know what your missing"
"No, but I do know your going to turn up missing if you keep this up"
*OH.*
Can’t wait until the next game comes out. I still and will always love Skyrim but I think we can all agree that constantly getting new armor sets and not expecting Mercer to betray you was awesome in your first play through.
Would've loved the thieves guild way more if mercer ended up not being the villain, would've been cool if the elf chick actually did kill gallus and made up a whole plot to get back into the guild and frame mercer, it was just stupidly obvious he was bad from the start... I think that was my biggest problem with the skyrim factions, not that the missions were boring or anything, the plots were all just too predictable with obvious bad guys
The fact that the mysterious and rude thalmor agent spying on the school was shockingly revealed to be, *gasp* the main villain of the college of winterhold, really made that story disappointing
Not to get started on the underdeveloped generic bandit look of the Silver Hand who could’ve been a rouge splinter faction from the Companions trying to hunt out the Werewolves within the Companions and stay true to Ysgramor’s memory instead of being literal Daedra worshipping Werewolves.
@@rhett6946 rogue*
@@rhett6946 oh feeling daring today are we
I like that mercer was the villain. Cuz too many times elves are often the cause or villain of a quest. You go to a random cave, read a journal, it an elf or wizard being the issue
When you said "as you attempt to reverse the guilds decline" I realized that applies to pretty much every faction quest in the game....
Bards College, Thieves Guild, Mages Guild, Dark Brotherhood, arguably the Companions....
Bethesda is pretty blunt with their "you're the chosen one" trends with how NPCs and the game world treats you
*_Plot twist: we arent special, everyone else just sucks_*
Just to clarify something about the Morag Tong, they were legal in Morrowind. There's a full faction quest line where you work for them, and guards will let you go after you kill your target since you have a Writ of Execution in your inventory. You also get to kill some Dark Brotherhood members as part of the quest line, because they're banned on the island.
I loved every thing about the Thieves Guild except for two Notes, ‘Shipment’s Arrived’ and ‘Timely Offer’. I took the notes literally and spent hours looking for the contents espoused in the notes. I searched every inch of water in, out, and around Riften trying to find that non-existent crate of glass arrows! Did anyone go searching for these Notes’ contents?
Oh yeah! (And yeah, I'm 3 years late to your comment and this video! 🤣)
@@WalterPavlikII I appreciate that you commented and that I wasn’t the only one on that searched for those nonexistent crates!
Y'know, I was never happy about having to pledge my soul to Nocturnal. My character wanted his soul to go to Sovngarde to be with his people. I would always roleplay that he was secretly hoping to get out of it somehow.
I mean if it helps you, think about it as that, since you are dragon born and have the soul of a dragon, akatosh/auri el makes the decision.
Honestly, as the dragonborne you have promised your soul to so many people that once you die there's probably bound to be some tug-of-war going on. That is, of course, assuming the dragonborn doesn't become a god in their own right by their death, in which case they could potentially just armwrestle the daedras one by one.
I’m sure at the end
It depends who the Dragonborn believes and worships more that their soul goes to that belief
@@AstarionWifey nope they are definitely going to akatosh as the dragon born is a dragon and there many theories that supports this claim.
here's a fun fact never mentioned in-game, Vekel was once an orphan at Honorhall. Meaning he definitely had to deal with Grelod growing up, kinda sad that they didn't make him comment on that
I hope he added the one where you find sapphires father
If only you could tell her 😭
Who is it?
Voxehl the blacksmith at the dark elf island. (Don’t know how to spell it right)
@@aceddeadshot7587 Solstheim.
@@shwildin, Glover Mallory in Raven Rock. If you're a member of the Guild, you get a dialogue option to point out the Shadowmark near his door. Comment on it, and he'll give you a quest to retrieve something of his. Complete it, and he'll give you a key to his basement, where you can take any and all inside, including a letter he writes to his daughter, but never sent.
The Nightingale armor is the best (in my opinion,Not in stats,But in the design)too bad I didn't go with the stealth build
Also the animation they did for the thief's guild quest-line are amazing and I wish they did more of them in the game
i wish i can enhance it
I prefer blackguard
Anis BEng they should have done more with the nightingales like maybe rebuild them and bring them back to its old glory days I guess you could say or like some sort of quests with them
I looks like a black version of moon knoghts armiur
And for the first one, it kind of gets confirmed by Glover Mallory in Raven Rock that Delvin has a thing for Vex.
and ANOTHER member having their advances rejected by another thief in the guild is ME, getting rejected by BRYNJOLF
Lol you cut out Vipir insulting Sapphire? He actually says "You cow, you don't know what you're missing!"
Yeah, "You cow," was cut.
Nice guy detected.
Arabian Nights
*wiggles sausage in Reek’s face*
@@mikaelmyers6135 Ramsay knew the real question: Do eunuchs have phantom cocks?
*You stupid cow* he called her stupid as well. Which really lead to her threat. Considering what she’s been through, can’t say I blame her.
It wasn’t that important but Delvin’s brother in Raven Rock asks something like “Is Delvin still trying to get In with Vex?”
there's also a not lying around in the guild where vex threatens to kill delvin the next time he tries to peep on her naked
@@deni6943 that note made me laugh 😂
Last time I was this early, Gallus was still alive.
Edit: woooooah 200 likes yeah boi most I have ever got wow!!!
Last time I was this early, Nocturnal killed the Psijic Order leader.
Last time I was this early, I still didn’t have The Elder Scroll
@@sassmos realy??? Nocturnal killed the leader of the Psijics???
@@septimussignus4603 shhhh. there there. you will get it one day.
ZOINK! you won't. because you will turn into a PILE OF ASH! (insert evil laughter here)
The skyrim boy -aka awsome alpha
Oh shit.
I'm kind of proud of myself that the only thing I wasn't aware of was the nightingale thing. Other than that, I was completely aware of everything else because I spend WAAAAY too much time with the guild (I love the thieves guild so much)
Hmm just as I thought... the one to do with a different Elder Scrolls is unknown. I feel that I might have discovered a type of syndrome. I shall call it the Skyrim Syndrome. Where one person plays Skyrim but refuses to play or learn from anything from a different elder scrolls.
I better get a Nobel prize for this...
@@metetural9140First off, not original (but nothing is).
Second, a lot of people were introduced to Elder Scrolls through Skyrim, that's not a bad thing! Do you really expect someone to know every little detail about every single game whether they've played them or not? It's ridiculous to think that! I've played 3 so far and I definitely don't know that much.
Besides videos like these help point people to new information they might not have known about that universe, in fact people might be MORE likely to play the other games if they see something that sounds neat!
@@DaBayleef first off, it would be original if those original people are... wiped from existence...
Second, did I say that? I only said that it was ironic that the one to do with another elder scrolls game that wasn't skyrim was not known. That the skyrim community is mainly just a bunch of people who played skyrim and no other elder scrolls game.
Third: I disagree. Well with this video atleast. Yes lore and fact videos are very good for people to learn but it isn't when Nate gets things blatantly wrong. Then people think it's right, spread it around and make people believe it.
@@metetural9140 1. Ah yes, I might've misinterpreted the second part a bit because with the way it's worded to me it sounded like you were saying a person will only play Skyrim and pretend the rest doesn't exist or something like that (refuse is a very strong word to use because it's an extreme like never or always so it might sound better but could misconstrue your point. Gotta love essays!)
2. For the most part people should usually take whatever is presented to them at face value (we don't, but we should) because not everything we get told is true, we just hope it is. Fact checking is always a good idea so you don't spread misinformation, but for a game and things like it, it's not the end of the world if something is wrong and if people want to learn more about something and find out "hey this thing was wrong" then cool! If Nate says something wrong, point it out to him and direct him to a SOURCE so he can fix the misinformation! Just telling me that he gets things wrong doesn't help your case too much because you gave me a statement, no proof.
3. When I read your initial comment, it didn't come off as being a joke, it seemed a little rude. If I misinterpreted it completely, I'm sorry about that. I hope this clears things up.
I realize comments were deleted but this really just feels like I'm hearing a conversation between Cicero and his Hat or something
I'm just annoyed that you can't destroy them like you can the Dark Brotherhood for full paragon of virtue points.
Nate: The book nightingales, volume two...
**Shows volume one**
If some one stole your sweet role you now know who did it
I can see it now in the DLC after Elswyer, the NPC: Nathan Epicus
Let me guess , someone stole your sweetroll
Aww imagine Nate's babies continuing his ES legacy of making tiny detail videos for future ES games! I'd make my kids watch.
3:37
All the health potions in Skyrim wouldn't heal that.
There is a former thieves guild member in Raven Rock☕
Delvins cousin and sapphires dad
Delvins brother
Oh where President Eden... oh sorry wrong game
the saddest fact of the thieves guild: cant marry brynjolf 💔😔
Can't marry the coins 💔😔
Exactly 😭✋🏼
I'm pretty sure Vipir also referred to Sapphire as a "stupid cow" as well then says "You dont know what you're missing!" Nate must've not like it and cut that part out, well played.
I dont know whether you already cover this or not but i'll share it anyway:
1. Sapphire is actually the daughter of Glover Mallory (the blacksmith on Raven Rock, Solsteim)
2. You can find out about this, if the player has registered as the member of the thieves guild, the player can actually talk to Glover as he is actually one the members of thieves guild and the brother of Delvin.... then, after that Glover will give you a quest which upon completion, he will give you access to his basement filled with loot.... and in that basement you can find a letter Glever wrote for Sapphire
3. And you can actually take that letter and give it to sapphire... and that will unlock unique dialog from her and personally i think it would hopefully give her some closure(?) To her tragic past
I think it still counts as "secret of the thieves guild" cos the game never actually tell us (directly) about this... even the act of giving the letter to Sapphire wont show in your quest journal...
Amazing video as always Nate, keep up the good work
I love it when you say "The Elder Scrolls 5 Skyrim"
That is the full title of the game.
@@WAMTAT but who actually calls skyrim by its full name? only nate has that honor
ESO
I swear to god Nate. If you don't give us a load order video of your EXACT load order... WE RIOT!!!
I am gonna steal the comment section. good video by the way.
Too late.
I wish you the best of luck on stealing the comment section my dude.
Stop! In the name of the jarl!
@@water9892 you will never take me alive!
You're going down!
From what I remember... (it's been a loooong ass time since I played Morrowindle). The Morag Tong are nothing like the Dark Brotherhood, the Morag Tong are legally sanctioned assassins, hence the "Writs of Execution" that you get, you use them if you get caught by the law, basically tells the guards to let you assassinate the target and leave you alone xD...I miss the Morag Tong... I like the idea of lawful assassins haha.
Daedric artifacts usually end up back with the daedric prince they came from, to be given out again at some other time
I like how in the first 10 seconds he shows a clip where he kills someone and the thiefs guild while thing is they dont want to kill people
I thought the Morag Tong were a group the dark brotherhood descended from. I read a book in Skyrim that mentioned them both together.
No no no no no. Completely wrong. The Morag Tong and Dark Brotherhood are extremely different. They hate each other and the Morag Tong where the ones who killed the Night Mother. The Morag Tong are a legal guild of assassins in Morrowind and kill people for money and to serve justice. Unlike the Dark Brotherhood who just kill for Sithis.
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[This reply has been murdered to death by the Dark BrotherHood]
Your comment was mistaken for a sweetroll...it happens
@@Parkerjw Sorry, but the black sacrament had been done and money was paid...
@@nunya5084 all I really wonder is, did it go to sovngarde?
@@Parkerjw of course it did...have you seen all the goodies they have there to feast on there!
But we broke the curse on the cowl in Oblivion. History was restored after we broke it.
Actually, Tonilia will sometimes mention her relationship with Vekel to the player saying something along the lines of "Vekel and me have a thing going. Try anything and it'd be bad for your health." So I guess she has a bit of a jealous streak too. Lol
She said that to my male character once
Thieves are always my favorite guild to join in any game.
The Gray Fox was only involved in the Cyrodiilic branch of the Thieve's Guild, not the whole of Tamriel. The Theive's Guild as a faction is not like some sort of interconnected web across all of the continent, it's largely independent if you look from province to province, but they're unified by the fact that they are all Thieve's and Criminals. Also, by the end of the Thieve's Guild questline the Gray Cowl of Nocturnal had the Curse lifted from it, meaning it doesn't make any sense if one of his parents was the current Gray Fox. This is just my take on the information we're given though, so if anyone's got anything to add feel free
I’d love to point out the fact that Gallus wrote the nightingale books... you know the old guild master who mercer killed
Honor among thieves my brother
Keep up the good work Nate! I love your videos
3 things I dislike about the Thieves Guild is you can't take Brynolf, Karliah, Vex, or any of the members as followers, you can't upgrade the Nightingale Hall, and Brynolf has glitched dialogue
Can confirm. I have gotten married and had my first child waiting for Elder Scrolls VI.
My kids are waiting for TES6, and unfortunately, they've only played Skyrim.
Oooo vex blushed when he read the lusty argonian maid
The problem with all these Gray Cowl theories is that everyone just ignores how the curse of being removed from history was lifted, making most theories involving the Gray Cowl just in general a moot point
Fact: Sapphire was supposed to be a marriable character after completing a quest to find out about her father. However Bethesda cut this from the game, you can still find out the truth about her father if you the Dragonborn DLC (but if you do, do not try the Bedlam Job, you will get Raven Rock and it is glitched).
Thankfully, you can talk to Delvin about cancelling the job with no repercussions.
Oh, Thieves Guild? No "murdering to death", then. Pity...
Wrong. Theres lots of murdering to death in the thieves guild.
So much for "not being the Dark Brotherhood" Brynjolf.
"Go fiddling with any locks around here, we're gonna have a real problem"
Idk, if I was Vex I'd probably take Delvin up on his offer. That was a pretty saucy letter 😏. But I kinda wish you could help Sapphire "take care" of Vipir the Fleet.
@@yannkam2127 We do need to be able to help Sapphire with her... problem. Vipir is a bit too... anxious.
@@BellCube Especially considering what Sapphire has been through.
He’s her uncle btw
@@juggs7899 *wHo cArEs?* 😏😫
Cicero never understood thieves really…take someone’s stuff before you kill them, and they call me crazy
By the time TESVI comes out, I am pretty sure my kid will close to graduating HS 😂 Leaves me plenty of time to wonder
It's going to be close for me. My daughter graduates in 2021.
Nate, it may surprise you to learn that some of your subscribers are older than you are.
@@notacow69 Mine is starting first grade in the fall. I am assuming TESVI will take an other 15-17 years 😂
My kids have heard of TESVI, my oldest is in 9th grade.
The Volcano didn't destroy all of Morrowind, just Vvardenfell and as we discover it wasn't total, they were and are rebuilding Vvardenfell. If you search around and listen, you discover Balmora and Vivec City are being rebuilt.
5 facts about the blackbriar family. Nate I need this
Regarding Rune, I suspected the exact same thing. in fact, I started reading books because of that character. I started reading every single book and note I could because part of me wanted to solve that mystery. My suspicion? The player was supposed to be a Nightingale, and Rune was to become the new Guildmaster and it would be a kind of partnership, and he'd have quests as well to go on - like restocking the guild bank with riches. I was hoping for a Fable III type turn where the player had to build up wealth for the guild to help restore their influence.
It might be a bit crazy, but I found a lot of similarities between Rune's backstory and Lone Starr from Spaceballs. Always thought it was an Easter egg. Maybe Rune is an "Honest to god prince."
That would be hilarious.
How about the little-known fact that Karliah is the granddaughter of Queen Barenziah herself? For reference, see "The Nightingales, Vol. 2" by Gallus Desidenius (in-game book).
Ah, yes! My favorite guild :D
I just have to say, love your pfp. Who made it, if may ask?
The thieves guild is my favorite faction
The dark brotherhood is my favorite questline....
Your characterization of the player interaction with the Morag Tong in their Dragonborn DLC storyline made me laugh so hard, I had to stop the video. Great job!
Me: If we need to kill Karliah why not ask the literal assassin?
Mercer: ... Because plot.
Me: Oh ok, lets go.
As for whats next, how about College of Winterhold?
You mean the really shit version of the Mage's Guild? Sorry but last time I checked the College exploded.
no, @@metetural9140, everyone at the college was mysteriously killed. That's it, really.
@@poofbomb-minecraftmore1883 oh. Cant it blow up as well? Make sure no one can ever remember it again? Wipe it from history?
Hunter Otte: The assassin dude only shows up after you do a bunch of missions to restore the guild, which comes after the mission where you hunt her down.
@@zigzaghyena Oh, makes sense then why he wasn't brought up. Thanks.
the two guys who stay at the entrance to go to the guild always make me understand that they are a couple
Me:clicks on this video
Vex:aren't you running a job for Delvin
The Thieves guilds biggest secret is that they don’t just steal anything. They go after the Sweetrolls and all the other valuables are traded for sweetrolls.
This is the only good part about this day.
We love a skyrim video!
I just beat this questline! It started awesome when your sneaking and crimin' about, then kinda went off the rails w/ Mercer Frey/Karliah storyline. Didn't realize this was one of the tougher questlines.
I really really hope nightingales are in the next elder scrolls they are one of my favorite factions in the game
If you didn’t know, Sapphire is actually Delvin’s niece, as if you gain access to Glover’s basement in Raven Rock you find a letter addressed to Sapphire, referring to her as Glover’s daughter.
Yeah, I found that out in a different video. Then, after my character helped Glover with his two quest, she got the keys from him and went into the basement, found the note, returned it to Sapphire and she rewarded my character with an exquisite sapphire. But she still won't say what her real name is.
what if rune was wearing the grey fox cowel before the ship wreck as a kid and lost his memory that way
I find it hilarious when Ravyn Imyan tells us his past and that the Dark Brotherhood would have his head if they knew he was in Skyrim, as he is a former Morag Tong member when the Dragonborn is potentially the listener and current leader of the Brotherhood, and I would love to see a mod that allows us to tell him we are the Listener and current leader of the Brotherhood.
Ton tells you that she has a relationship with him the first time you meet her...
only if youre a girl though i think
Ps: The glowing blue runes on the Grey Fox Mask/ Nocturnal's Cowl says "Shadow Hide You."
You might even recognise the second last rune (second from the bottom) as the "O" rune, synonymous with and ubiquitous through Oblivion.