if it was fleeting it'd be unplayable at 2 mana. all the power comes from pinging at fast speed and then having access to another 1 damage ping whenever you need it
The other thing is that Hearthstone doesn't have blockers (other than the Taunt keyword)... in Runeterra, a 1 damage ping is potentially an entire unit's worth of face damage next time you attack.
Well, for pie toss it wouldn't actually make sense if the perilous pastry dealt more damage. The joke is that it's the same pie! The first time you toss it, no one takes it seriously, so it's fast, but it actually deals damage because there's an anvil inside! After it hits the first time, the anvil gets revealed, you pick it up and you throw it again, but now everyone is more weary of it, so it costs more and it's slow. It's the same pie with anvil, that's why they both deal 1
@@soundstorm7 It just looks like it. Also, the first time I used it, I assumed the Perilous would deal 2, so when it dealt 1 it dropped on me like an anvil XD
Something to remember when you were talking about something like pie toss is that on paper is that spells in runeterra are lower impact than in any other card game because of spell mana. That means that they tend to be valued for just being useful if low impact options, which is exactly what pie toss is.
I’d like to point out that Aatrox himself somehow says baalcux’s name worse than you do, he straight up says “what is this Bandle magic, BALLCOCKS” so the actual pronunciation is legitimately just Ballcocks, god I love the Darkin
I'd say Mozaki is more of a sidegrade, due to the fact that in runeterra removal is more limited, making threats like mischevious marai more likely to stick between turns. Hearthstone has much more board clears, making Mozakis permanence not that impactful.
@@nikospyridis9579 But burst speed removal is a very rare thing in LoR, right? Also, it was mentioned in the video that whenever the enemy tries to use a spell/skill to deal with the keg you can always just put another spell on the stack.
while its not in this video: everytime i see the new cards I can't help but get excited about this hidden gem. In targon, there's a card called: falling star - this card was speculated to be Zoe's new champ spell but it's actually something even better! This card is actually a teaser for a champion named morgana! This image is the rock that contains the blades of kayle and morgana and crashes down in demacia near them! So hyped for morgana! it even has a damage effect if a target has been stunned(rooted in morgs case) Even in the flavor text she's teased: The stars look down upon our acts, be they good or ill. The righteous are lifted up, while the wicked suffer judgment. For more proof, Here's a tiny section from kayle and morgana's story: Morgana’s fears that she and Kayle might carry some remnant of the Aspect’s power were eventually confirmed, when a great blade wreathed in shadow and starfire fell from the heavens. As it pierced the ground, splitting in two, feathered wings burst from the girls’ shoulders. Their father wept at the sight of them each taking up half of the weapon, and turned away even as Morgana reached out to comfort him. While Kayle embraced their new calling, rallying an order of judicators to enforce the laws, Morgana resented her gifts… until the night their settlement was raided. Kilam found himself surrounded as the fighting spread. In that moment, Morgana rushed to shield him, burning his attackers to ash. Together, the sisters saved countless lives, and were hailed as the Winged Protectors of Demacia.
@@shadowmitten cross those fingers! Would also be a coincidence since the mageseeker game is right around the corner! Just a heads up, playstation state of play is about to happen! New games woooo
@@shadowmitten sorry sorry one last thing, BUT MAN OH MAN EVEN THOUGH IT WAS JUST FINAL FANTASY 16, THAT MUSIC IS SOOOOOOOOOOO GOOOOOOODD WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWW! TALK ABOUT EPIC! THOSE BOSS FIGHTS ARE WICKED!
Rarran asked about seeing the bottom of the deck - that is functionally what Predict achieves, because it shuffles BEFORE showing 3 cards for its selection.
Technically yes, but he was probably referring to a mechanic in HS called dredge that literally lets you see the 3 bottom cards of your deck. So if the mechanics were the same you would have instant access to the champions which is not the case.
The secret, secret keeper is keeping is that he is a paycheck printer. On a real note, love your content Sunny. Especially the stuff you do with Rarran. The vibes are so good and chill when you collab together. I really have no interest in Hearthstone, but seems like Rarran is just a light-hearted, fun guy to vibe with.
Mischievous Marai reminds me of a legendary minion in Hearthstone called Mozaki, Master Duelist. She was a 5 mana 3/8 minion with “After you cast a spell, gain Spell Damage +1”. She didn’t see play too often but there were times when synergy was strong enough to turn her into basically an Exodia, building up spell damage with cheap or free spells until you have enough to start slinging spells at the opponent. Pretty fun card.
Love these videos, I know he started playing for a little bit would be cool to see y'all do a couple duels! And of course one eternal match to show him the GLORIOUS EVOLUTION
The 2nd pie is good because, it's just more options, and it's also good discard fodder. Discard costs are alot easier to justify if you aren't having to decide to discard something potentially important. It doesn't take up a space in your deck and It's a free bad card, and that makes it good.
Thinking about Ghostly Strike, it's insane how good a "1-Mana Slow (for balance) ping with Nightfall: Draw a Card." would be for Targon (S.I too, even tho Vile exists, but I consider Targon to be the Nightfall region bc of Diana) (27:00)
I love you doing those videos too and it's a shame that we get these collaborations only when there's new content in one of your games. I'm such a sucker for collab content. Maybe try something like a "A week of mentoring Rarran/Snnuy in my game" with each other. Especially now with the new sets coming out and rotation in both hearthstone and runeterra?
Again, I don't know why conversation on 10:33 was cut off? Because Rarran clearly said something like "he looks like Ryze in disguise" or something like that, so reply about skin would make sense. But with current montage it looks strange how this point was brought out from nothing. Overall - good content and I'm always like when players from different games communicate and try other stuff.
I have an idea about prize fight... how about an attacking lvl 2 vi that spams prize fight if its striking then its perfect for vi's multiple 5 face dmg and u can print prize fights cuz ur running PnZ. So basically an OTK Vi prize fight
Didnt play runeterra for a while, but yesterday decided to join in, all my decks are fucking eternal, and i had to rebuild...deleted my old decks...started browsing cards and...pie toss when i first saw it, i just decided...yep, this is going into my deck...then i added a Nami and fizz, some other spells, and electro harpoons...works pretty damn well so far, hell, beat a Sett Karma which is sorta meta i guess? only played about 5 games of it...also minimorphs OP
Wait a minute, this isn't Rarran's channel! Hey Snnuy make Rarran play more LorR! Also make him play HS Duels! Also you play HS Duels! What, me? No I don't play Duels, I'm not insane! But it is fun to watch!
I disagree with the opinion on mad ol babs, shes a wincon that should be played with ionia or noxus where you can give this cheap wincon card elusive with ghost or all of the overwhelm cards to hit face for massive damage, in case you dont draw a jack or nami or whatever
Another cope for rarran: if the second pie was fleeting, pie toss would be pretty close to the level he was describing.
if it was fleeting it'd be unplayable at 2 mana. all the power comes from pinging at fast speed and then having access to another 1 damage ping whenever you need it
The other thing is that Hearthstone doesn't have blockers (other than the Taunt keyword)... in Runeterra, a 1 damage ping is potentially an entire unit's worth of face damage next time you attack.
Well, for pie toss it wouldn't actually make sense if the perilous pastry dealt more damage. The joke is that it's the same pie! The first time you toss it, no one takes it seriously, so it's fast, but it actually deals damage because there's an anvil inside! After it hits the first time, the anvil gets revealed, you pick it up and you throw it again, but now everyone is more weary of it, so it costs more and it's slow.
It's the same pie with anvil, that's why they both deal 1
Damn that actually makes so much sense. Does it say that on the cards’ flavour text anywhere or did you just use logic?
@@soundstorm7 It just looks like it. Also, the first time I used it, I assumed the Perilous would deal 2, so when it dealt 1 it dropped on me like an anvil XD
That card is so funny
The art doesn't really reinforce that. The anvil is clearly bigger than the pie. Its also clean, there's no pie smears from where it was covered
@@Tomwithnonumbers Is that the amount of scrutiny you use for Tom & Jerry? It's cartoon logic, that's the point XD
Something to remember when you were talking about something like pie toss is that on paper is that spells in runeterra are lower impact than in any other card game because of spell mana. That means that they tend to be valued for just being useful if low impact options, which is exactly what pie toss is.
I’d like to point out that Aatrox himself somehow says baalcux’s name worse than you do, he straight up says “what is this Bandle magic, BALLCOCKS” so the actual pronunciation is legitimately just Ballcocks, god I love the Darkin
he actually pronounces it baahlcox but go off
@@zinfuldreams1709 why are you mad though
@@zinfuldreams1709 that is functionally the same pronunciation, he says Ballcocks
@@zinfuldreams1709ballcock enjoyer
Man Snnuy and Rarran is such a good bromance, it always enjoyable to see
Love these collabs always bangers
"I forgot You can actually stop them from attacking face"
"blocking is a stupid mechanic"
Rarran is a lowkey elusive deck main
And then he says he doesn't like face hunter...
PS:🤢 Sorry, elusives make me have nausea. Seriously, they are somehow always broken.
Mischievous Marai is Mozaki mage. Change my mind
I looked it up and that's a pretty good comparison lol
That was my first thought.
Although, Mozaki is better since she gets to keep the bonuses permanently.
I'd say Mozaki is more of a sidegrade, due to the fact that in runeterra removal is more limited, making threats like mischevious marai more likely to stick between turns. Hearthstone has much more board clears, making Mozakis permanence not that impactful.
@@royaloreo1275 Well yes but Mozaki can OTK, while Marai can be stopped by killing 0/1
@@nikospyridis9579 But burst speed removal is a very rare thing in LoR, right? Also, it was mentioned in the video that whenever the enemy tries to use a spell/skill to deal with the keg you can always just put another spell on the stack.
I didn't know 'meatball' was such an established word for describing chunkers
Funny to see that rarran has more knowledge about how good a card is than the riot developers
while its not in this video: everytime i see the new cards I can't help but get excited about this hidden gem. In targon, there's a card called: falling star - this card was speculated to be Zoe's new champ spell but it's actually something even better!
This card is actually a teaser for a champion named morgana! This image is the rock that contains the blades of kayle and morgana and crashes down in demacia near them! So hyped for morgana! it even has a damage effect if a target has been stunned(rooted in morgs case)
Even in the flavor text she's teased: The stars look down upon our acts, be they good or ill. The righteous are lifted up, while the wicked suffer judgment.
For more proof, Here's a tiny section from kayle and morgana's story: Morgana’s fears that she and Kayle might carry some remnant of the Aspect’s power were eventually confirmed, when a great blade wreathed in shadow and starfire fell from the heavens. As it pierced the ground, splitting in two, feathered wings burst from the girls’ shoulders. Their father wept at the sight of them each taking up half of the weapon, and turned away even as Morgana reached out to comfort him.
While Kayle embraced their new calling, rallying an order of judicators to enforce the laws, Morgana resented her gifts… until the night their settlement was raided. Kilam found himself surrounded as the fighting spread. In that moment, Morgana rushed to shield him, burning his attackers to ash. Together, the sisters saved countless lives, and were hailed as the Winged Protectors of Demacia.
Oh my god I totally missed this, do you mind if I use this information for a video?
@@Snnuy HECK YEAH! USE IT ALL!
I thought this was ASol related because of his latest re-work in League. But I'd love this to be true instead.
@@shadowmitten cross those fingers! Would also be a coincidence since the mageseeker game is right around the corner!
Just a heads up, playstation state of play is about to happen! New games woooo
@@shadowmitten sorry sorry one last thing, BUT MAN OH MAN EVEN THOUGH IT WAS JUST FINAL FANTASY 16, THAT MUSIC IS SOOOOOOOOOOO GOOOOOOODD WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWW! TALK ABOUT EPIC! THOSE BOSS FIGHTS ARE WICKED!
Rarran asked about seeing the bottom of the deck - that is functionally what Predict achieves, because it shuffles BEFORE showing 3 cards for its selection.
Technically yes, but he was probably referring to a mechanic in HS called dredge that literally lets you see the 3 bottom cards of your deck. So if the mechanics were the same you would have instant access to the champions which is not the case.
Another good thing about pie toss - it creates discard fodder. so it is pretty nutty card
The secret, secret keeper is keeping is that he is a paycheck printer.
On a real note, love your content Sunny. Especially the stuff you do with Rarran. The vibes are so good and chill when you collab together. I really have no interest in Hearthstone, but seems like Rarran is just a light-hearted, fun guy to vibe with.
Watched this on Rarrans channel, watching it again on Snnuy cause I love this Clark Kent lookin LOR player.
Secret keeper is just zilean with a cloak sneaking around
Muted Snnuy made me doubt my eardrum's ability to perform
WE NEED A PART 2 WITH THE OTHER CARDS!
Mischievous Marai reminds me of a legendary minion in Hearthstone called Mozaki, Master Duelist. She was a 5 mana 3/8 minion with “After you cast a spell, gain Spell Damage +1”. She didn’t see play too often but there were times when synergy was strong enough to turn her into basically an Exodia, building up spell damage with cheap or free spells until you have enough to start slinging spells at the opponent. Pretty fun card.
He knows more about the cards than the devs already.
Love these videos, I know he started playing for a little bit would be cool to see y'all do a couple duels! And of course one eternal match to show him the GLORIOUS EVOLUTION
The 2nd pie is good because, it's just more options, and it's also good discard fodder. Discard costs are alot easier to justify if you aren't having to decide to discard something potentially important. It doesn't take up a space in your deck and It's a free bad card, and that makes it good.
4:05 croc my beloved
Rerren and Moony, huge banger as always, love the collabs
15:45 all of the gems got rotated tho....
Lunari Cultist still exists, so that's something,
Now that ranran is getting back into league would be funny to see you two play some rounds
Mischievous Marai is a "kill on sight unit". If the enemy gets to "untap" with Marai on the board, the game is probably over.
the Sessions Diana in the background is great
Thinking about Ghostly Strike, it's insane how good a "1-Mana Slow (for balance) ping with Nightfall: Draw a Card." would be for Targon (S.I too, even tho Vile exists, but I consider Targon to be the Nightfall region bc of Diana) (27:00)
To be good in nightfall it would have to have a daybrake effect actually lol
@@ByOursss but Nightfall = Combo
The feeling when you want to help out but you want to see more Secret Keeper videos xD
I love you doing those videos too and it's a shame that we get these collaborations only when there's new content in one of your games.
I'm such a sucker for collab content. Maybe try something like a "A week of mentoring Rarran/Snnuy in my game" with each other. Especially now with the new sets coming out and rotation in both hearthstone and runeterra?
Again, I don't know why conversation on 10:33 was cut off? Because Rarran clearly said something like "he looks like Ryze in disguise" or something like that, so reply about skin would make sense. But with current montage it looks strange how this point was brought out from nothing.
Overall - good content and I'm always like when players from different games communicate and try other stuff.
He forgor about malphite when talking about targon decks xd
I have an idea about prize fight... how about an attacking lvl 2 vi that spams prize fight if its striking then its perfect for vi's multiple 5 face dmg and u can print prize fights cuz ur running PnZ. So basically an OTK Vi prize fight
finally the audio is fixed
glad to see the audio issues fixed :)
Didnt play runeterra for a while, but yesterday decided to join in, all my decks are fucking eternal, and i had to rebuild...deleted my old decks...started browsing cards and...pie toss when i first saw it, i just decided...yep, this is going into my deck...then i added a Nami and fizz, some other spells, and electro harpoons...works pretty damn well so far, hell, beat a Sett Karma which is sorta meta i guess? only played about 5 games of it...also minimorphs OP
22:14 that is a surprise! Where are you from?
Baalkux is pronounced the way you say it. I believe Aatrox has voice lines with the weapon to confirm this
Damn I may be tripping but I don’t know nobody named astro
@@deadbymeme2311 autocorrect. I meant aatrox
@@trentgawd4292 yea ik was just messing with you sorry
Secret Keeper is basically Ambassador Faelin if dredge wasnt in the game so no shit it sucks
I hope to see you trying to rate Festival of Legends cards soon.
these collabs are so amazing🤣🤣
AYO THE SHINE BLIP?
yeah banana - snnuy 2023
Wait a minute, this isn't Rarran's channel! Hey Snnuy make Rarran play more LorR! Also make him play HS Duels! Also you play HS Duels! What, me? No I don't play Duels, I'm not insane! But it is fun to watch!
Hey wanna ask, is rarran just movin to new place?
Man rarran don't know how busted shaman healing totem was XD
saw this video yesterday 😎😎
wait wasn't generous gemcrafter in the last expantion with soul cleave?
No, Soul Cleave was released on 4.1 and Gemcrafter was on 4.2 alongside Mischievous Marai and Priestess of Desert Light
@@fishsticks6611 point still stands these cards were released before the glory in navori expantion
@@LIAuNXeNON well i wasnt disagreeing on it
I wonder if Rarran would ever play LoR
He did actually for a bit
Seen ✓ See on another channel ✓ Watch anyways ✓
Oh this is follower cards
boat is bad he says hehehehe
Sleep can wait-
This set is just... too much like new champ releases in League
Snnuy is not native English speaker wtf
I'd never thought
Isn’t youngling comically unplayable. I’ve never seen this card on ladder.
Secret Keeper is just worse Faelin since Runeterra doesn't have Dredge or Finley and Faelin is not a good card in HS.
I love this moaaaar pls
Can you tell him heart stone to expensive
I disagree with the opinion on mad ol babs, shes a wincon that should be played with ionia or noxus where you can give this cheap wincon card elusive with ghost or all of the overwhelm cards to hit face for massive damage, in case you dont draw a jack or nami or whatever
Make him play some matches please
W content
Reupload lol
LETS GOOO!😊
I watched it before wtf
I uploaded this video yesterday but it had audio issues, they're fixed here :(
Huts
Coins are broken
People stillunironically play Hearthstone?
What is this, 2015?