Absolutely. Macho was never above putting younger talent over. Before he parted ways with the WWF in 1994 he had even been lobbying Vince to put him in an angle with Shawn Michaels that would have ended in Macho's retirement after he put Shawn over.
Vince completely dropped the ball with Savage from '93-'94. All he really did in those two years was feud with Crush. Randy had so much left in him and they relegated him to the announcers's table.
If i worked 300 days a year wrestled 3 times in one night get promised a match with the biggest wrestler in history and then get a fued with a comedy heel announcer I would be pissed off too.
@White Dad Sneaks He is a kiss ass. He contradicts himself CONSTANTLY. The only thing you can be sure of is he's full of shit. Hell, Cornette has made fun of him for lying all the time and he likes Bruce.
Frenetic Zetetic It was really a one man show, all 3 of Bret's matches were excellent, the opener was Top 5 of Scott Hall's career, the Mr Perfect match was one the best matches ever, the Bam Bam match was his best WWF match and probably in his Top 10 ever Best storyline of the night as well, each match building into the next, Bret's performance blew away everything from that night, it's too bad the WWF didn't follow it up with Bret vs Hogan at SummerSlam, they could have always inserted Yoko and Luger into the title picture afterwards
Essentially, Vince McMahon had separate conversations with Hulk Hogan and Bret Hart. Hogan and Bret spoke to each other, then spoke together with Vince, and both realized Vince lied to both of them.
Missed opportunity of a LIFETIME!!! They could have set up a match between Hogan and Bret for the title at SummerSlam (like they originally planned) and have Hogan turn HEEL. Hogan could have cut promos about how he's the biggest star in WWF history and how Bret doesn't stand a chance against him, etc.... The Hogan heel turn in WCW (with the NWO) would happen just a few years later. Hogan began his WWF career as a heel with Freddy Blassie as his manager, and he could have turned heel again on the way out. Bret would have been the underdog taking on the toughest champion in company history. The man that beat Bundy, Andre, Sid, Undertaker, etc... Imagine how over Bret would have been to get a win over Hogan at SummerSlam. THAT would have launched the New Generation era better than anything ever.
@@taekwondotime Vince not turning Hogan heel was definitely one of his biggest mistakes. Hogan said he wanted to turn heel when lost to Warrior...but Vince said it would never work.
i'm biggest Bret Hart mark there can be, but he was better booked than any former champion other than Hulk, Warrior and arguably Taker. He was better booked than Shieky, Backlund, Stasiak, Slaughter, etc. I'd say Savage had a worse win/loss record as former champ, and a similar push. But at the same time, Bret had a point.
The thing is that the Lawler feud didnt go over that well, because Lawler had to pull out of it due to his legal trouble, and Bret was left lingering...they should have kept him feuding with Bam Bam instead of Doink.
Bret didn't feud with Bam Bam, he worked house shows with him in Europe. They faced during the KOTR tournament. Lawler was out for a few months, and the Bret vs Lawler feud lasted over two years.
@@rubenarriaga3029 yesss!! Savage planned a 2 year feud with Michaels and Vince didn’t go along with it. They wanted Savage to only do commentary and put over the new talent. It was Vince’s loss and he was pissed about losing Slim Jim over it. He should have treated Savage a bit better instead trying to put his career on a shelf.
It should have been, seems like he was out of the main events after Survivor Series 92. Savage should have been the guy for Summer Slam 93, instead of Luger.
*Bret was never put over strong like former champions were* . Ultimate Warrior got to beat Hogan clean at WM but never lost clean to anyone. Hogan won the title clean from Iron Shiek and stayed unbeaten for ages. Bret wins the title on a house show (not a PPV) so nobody sees it, and then LOSES TO A HEEL (Yokozuna) at his first WM as champion. That's some serious BS. Bret should have won the title from Ric Flair on a PPV (WM8 for example) and then held onto it versus Yokozuna. You could have had Fuji and Yoko beat up Bret after the match at WM9 and then have Hogan come out and make the save, put the title on Bret, pop the crowd, and then let Bret celebrate in the ring to close the show. He needed to win the title and defend it on PPVs to build him as champion. It wasn't going to happen on house shows.
I agree to an extent it Should have been on ppv but a lot of titles changed hands at house shows because they were profitable back then and made house shows must see. But around this time perception was changing I just don't think WWE realized it yet tv matches were becoming a big deal and ppvs were down them.
Not true. From summerslam 92-survivor series 97 bret only jobbed 1 time clean and that was to his brother Owen at mania 10 and he went on to win the world title later that night. He was booked incredibly strong.
Did anyone here subscribe to the WWF Magazine in 1993? In I believe either the May or June edition, they did a 2-page column on who would win between Hogan (who was the champ) and Bret. Of course, they knew full well that that match was never going to happen.
If that match ever happened, Bret would had been the rightful heel.. Hogan was still wildly popular in 1993... No matter what the smarks try to convince everyone that Hogan was old and people now cared only for New Generation wrestlers like Bret Hart, Duke Drosese and Adam Bomb.. Bret was still relatively new as a main eventer and was slowly transfering to a full fledged babyface after endless years of being a heel with Neidhart and Jimmy Hart... The fans still loved Hogan as the main hero and everyone else with the exception of Taker, Ultimate Warrior and Macho Man was way below him in popularity levels.
Hogan would have NEVER lost to Bret Hart, BUT ONLY because he would never actually do the job for Bret... Bret deserved to go over Hogan in 93, absolutely, just The Hulkster was such a win greedy backstage politician he never would have agreed to put Bret over... Even when he lost back to Yoko there was the fireball bullshit, wasn't a clean victory. He barely ever put anyone over clean... Hogan only cares about himself and how he looked, he didn't care about the business or any of the boys... Fuck Hogan...
@@Nostalgicguy2242 😂😂 bret would have been the rightful heel? Dude, the crowd would have turn on hogan in a hart v hogan match in 93. Hogan would have looked like a big bully beating up a little bret hart. Remember hogan was always booked as the underdog against 400lbs plus guys or 7ft tall giants. Much like bret was, but hogan never hart in 93, hogan would have became the heel and hogan knew that and didn't want the match.
David Serrano Bret was the King of the Ring winner from the the untelevised tournament in 1991, 1992 didn't have one, then from 1993 onwards they made the tournament into a PPV show...they had other KOTR tournaments on a smaller scale starting in 1985 with Don Muraco being the first winner
As Bobby Heenan had once said about the Memphis territory..."The only guys who went there were guys who were starting out or finishing up. You didn't go to Memphis to make money."
Makes sense that's where the money is. Also not to many other people making the case yo be I. That spot while he was there. Hogans run was played out and he clearly didn't want to be full time. Vince tried.and wanted luger and the fans rejected him. Shawn was still ways away from being ready for the spot. Diesel was a bit of a rough sell as.a Babyface he seemed to Garner more attention as a very tough to beat heel, plus was really green. Savage didn't wanna do full time (Savage says so himself) I guess people think he did wanna go full time cause he wrestled in WCW, but they were offering big money and lighter schedules. They passed Bret up to get o e more run out of Hogan, which wasn't as I believe as successful as they had originally hoped for. Then tried Lex who didn't work. By the time WM10 came.around and Bret got it back it was clear he was.#1. they felt he could be the champ they let h beat Ric Flair clean for the title,and all Bret knew beforehand was how WWF treated Hulk as the top guy so he always compared what he was.doing to what he knew which was Hogan. Also in Bret's the if you put the title on a Babyface that was a big deal. Heels were transitional champs not so much babyfaces (at least that had been WWFs formula and probably the formula on Stampede).Most promotions wouldn't put the big strap on a guy under 30 or even in some.cases that was a bit young depending how long they were in the business. It is clear though the WWF had big shoes.to fill with Hogan gone and we're.trying new things which led to title.chnages becoming more common especially with more PPV introduced.
Bret was the best worker in the business and knew how to make others look like a million bucks. Besides this was the New Generation era and he was the face of the company.
At this time frame I was just starting to become a rapid wrestling fan. As someone stated before, Vince told Hogan one thing and Brett another thing. He played both because that was best for business.
Bret’s entire WWF run was built on Vince never 100% backing him as the guy because he didn’t look like Hogan or Warrior (a mistake he continues to make to this day) Yet, when others floundered as champion in the 90s, there was always the stable, fallback choice. Bret might have never been Hogan, but he made the company more money than anyone left.
Bret saved the WWF at it`s lowest point then handed the torch over to Michaels during he screwjob who n turn handed the top spot to Austen who then made more money for the company as the healine act than anybody else, all three did there part during that fragile low point in WWF history.
I would've kept Bret as the dominant champion throughout '93 and into '94. Defends and defeats a crazed heel Randy Savage at Wrestlemania IX, narrowly makes it out alive against Bigelow at King Of The Ring '93, saved by a knockout from Luger at Summerslam '93, only to be betrayed by Owen at Survivor Series '93, missing out Royal Rumble '94 with a brief "knee injury" and losing to Owen at Wrestlemania X, only to regain the belt at Summerslam '94. And keeping the belt until around Survivor Series '94, losing the belt again to Bigelow (taking Backlund's spot).
A perfectionist like Bret will never be happy. Bret is a tough guy to sell and took everything so seriously. I'm a huge mark for Bret and still think he's probably the best wrestler to have ever lived (imo). But, he's not without his drawbacks. Also I agree with Lawler taking up PPV spots with Bret was stupid. No one really cared about that feud
Especially since the SummerSlam match was against Doink, and they knew nobody would pay for that (no matter how good it was), so they pulled a bait and switch. Feud would have been more memorable if the Survivor Series match had happened the way it was supposed to.
Bret was probably planned in to get his rematch for the title at SummerSlam against Yoko but, Vince saw big money in a USA v Japan feud and Bret just wasnt the guy to represent either.
Clearly 'a big USA vs Japan feud' wasn't what Vince wanted and/or it wasn't 'big money', which is why Lex was a failed experiment and Bret was a proven commodity
Bret was great in ring but he was never going be the chosen face the way Hogan or Warrior were built up & protected by Vince. I doubt he was ever paid the same amount of money by Vince either, but he was still the longest reigning WWF champ of the 90s overall. I think it was hard for him to accept that he was more of a 'secondary' champion.
Because vince is gay for muscles. I know bret didnt draw money like hogan but im guessing he probably drew as well or better than warrior. So idk why vince wouldnt push bret and protect him as much as warrior.
WWE is BETTER than New Japan! Vince paid him 400,000 US Dollars, from 1993-96 then WCW made Bret 2.7 million US Dollars offer each year for 3years, Vince then made Bret a 20 year deal for 1.5 million US Dollars a year and Bret took that deal because of more money over the long run, but Vince after a year of that and seeing Stone Cold as his new star, decided that Bret wasn't worth it , plus Bret was 40, he told Bret to take the WCW deal, Bret did and the Screwjob happened.
R.A.J. Firstly, I picked Diesel and Shawn because they were the other major stars during Bret's run in the WWF in the mid 90's. In fact, each guy was pushed as the top babyface ahead of Bret in 1995 and 1996 respectively. So yes, there was a purpose behind listing them. Secondly, let me teach you a little English, which might help when replying to others in the future. Do you know what the word "combined" means? Because if you don't, I suggest you grab a dictionary and look it up. And then you might not be so eager to focus on individuals listed, rather than the group as a whole. Thirdly, if you bothered to read Bret's book, you would realise that this guy's ego was so out of control that it would require its own wing in the Hall of Fame. Hell, Bret's ego could fill a whole building. And that was even before the Montreal Screwjob. Finally, you got personal with your original reply. I simply returned fire. It's called a receipt. It's not my fault you got your panties in a bunch because I dared to say anything negative about your hero Bret Hart. Fans like you make me wanna puke.
Mark Robinson I've Read Bret's book, heard his interviews, and I've also read and heard enough from Hogan, Warrior, Shawn, and Nash...they all have huge egos, some are deluded, but they all think highly of themselves, to single out Bret's ego from that bunch is inane...you may be offended by him because you're not a fan, but objectively Bret's ego is no worse than anybody you've mentioned I don't need a spitefull small booger like you to edify what you meant by your original comment when that comment itself is the epitome of worthless bitchiness...you could've grouped any list of top stars together, that's how random and worthless your comment was, breaking it down only further illustrated that The fact that you included names that weren't bigger than Bret within a group of other big names again shows how sprawled out your ideas are, you have no idea what you're talking about Your comments annoyed me because they're a dime a dozen, thoughtless generic drivel posing as being a clever putdown....you think you're funny, but your material isn't even good enough to wipe the inside of a toilet clean, this isn't about "my hero", it's that idiot wrestling fans like you are like car exhaust, you pollute every conversation that arises Dumbass...
I like that their idea was to have the belt on "unbeatable heel" Yokozuna, and their way to launch their new "unbeatable" heel champion was to have Bret Sharpshooter him and only lose because Fuji threw salt in his eyes, then have Hogan squash him in 30 seconds immediately after. Good job idiots, I can't imagine why business died off in 93.
Seriously Hulks story is full of crap and I don't blame Bret for being as pissed off as he was about the whole situation. Hogan knew his time was finished and could see Bret eventually taking the crown from him as the next great wwf champion for years to come. His ego wouldn't let him pass the torch over to Bret so he decides ok I'll just lose to Yokozuna that way he wouldn't give Bret the satisfaction of having defeated him. Prove me wrong. Hogan never saw Bret Hart as being in his league.
That's true, it was all an ego thing and that's why Bret got screwed in the WM9 finish and then Hogan lied about dropping the belt to Bret at Summerslam. Hogan has always put himself first instead of the business.
Bret vs Hogan at SummerSlam as a non-title match would have worked. Even with the photoshoot playing tug-o-war with the belt. Yoko beats Hogan at KOTR, as planned, then Hogan faces Bret at SummerSlam for #1 Contender and a title shot at Survivor Series. Yoko could still face newly turned Lex Luger, same finish, which could open up the chance for Hogan vs Luger down the road. I could see Hogan putting over Bret in a situation like this, but I don't think he would have ever put Bret over for the title.
Unicron's Balls I don't think Hogan wanted to put Bret over in any capacity, regardless if the title belt was involved, Bret was the next guy Vince was gonna run with after Hogan and Hogan never liked that He was still bitter after the torch was passed to the Ultimate Warrior and was hopeful and ultimately happy that Warrior's time at the top failed, so that Vince could keep running back to Hulkamania, which Hogan thought could go on forever (even though Hogan was also failing to draw business) After Hogan hijacked his way into becoming WWF champ at WM 9, Hogan worked tags with Beefcake against Money Inc beating them by DQ over and over After Yoko pinned (by exploding camera) Hogan to regain the belt, Hogan was beating Yoko by DQ on all the European tour dates they worked until Hogan left for good If you look at his track record, Hogan had no interest in putting anybody over, much less somebody who was considered a replacement to him, even though Hogan didn't improve business and wasn't drawing Most selfish wrestler EVER...The Huckster...Hulk Hogan
When Hogan came back in Feb 93, it was pretty much always just going to be a quick 1 big match cash in for Hulk, and that was at WM 9. Hulk realised his star power and influence in wwf was gone and done and so did Vince, which is why they didnt try to make a long term deal. Instead they worked out a deal for that upcoming tour in july in europe, because Hulk was still very popular in europe. So the idea was just to do that only. Vince doesn't like baby face v babyface matches, thats why we didnt get a Warrior v Hogan rematch. You rarely ever saw a face v face in wwf at that time. Vince probably didnt want Bret to look like a bad guy in beating Hulk. Besides that Vince still had some doubts about Bret being his number 1 guy. He kinda only put the belt on Bret to take it away from Flair. The idea was to put the title on Warrior before Warrior got fired in Oct 92. Bret was a fill in. The plan was to put the title on a Big Man, ie: Yoko, or Luger. WCW had Vader Yoko was a bigger Vader. The Magazines will tease any possibility to make sells. Bottom line: Vince was really unsure of having Hogan v Bret and Bret Hart can come off sounding pushy and entitled.
Hogan was never asked by Vince to wrestle Bret, and Bret was not really meant to keep the title for very long. If it had not been for Hogan Bret probably would have lost it to Yoko or a heel Lex Luger.
except the main events of Wrestlemania VI and SummerSlam '92 and the co-main event of SummerSlam '92 and Rockers vs Hart Foundation and Hart Foundation vs Legion of Doom and Hart Brothers vs Steiner Brothers and The Rock vs Stone Cold and Hulk Hogan vs Shawn Michaels and Shawn Michaels vs Ric Flair and Shawn Michaels vs Undertaker and John Cena vs Undertaker and ...
To be real with ya I 💚Heel Bret Hart to me that was his best character cause the S.O.B was shooting in his promos just check it 96/97 era that's how a HEEL John Cena should end his career don't ya think 😕
I loved heel Bret in 97 but technically he was only heel in America and face in the rest of the world remember the flag match in canada? Hart foundation were heroes and team austin was booed 97 is an underrated year imo but heel cena wouldnt work I dont think because of how bad we all want it the heel turn would make him more cheered than ever before
John Cena should have ended his career in 1999... (For anyone about to call me dumb and say he didn't start until the early 2000s, I know... Figure it out)
I don’t believe it for one minute that Vince told Bret that he would beat Hogan with the sharp shooter at Sumer Slam. No way in 93 was going to have the biggest baby face in company history just give up to another baby face, who at that time was the company’s lowest drawing World Champion ever. Bret’s first title run did not have the numbers that Hogan, Savage, Flair, Warrior, or Sgt. Slaughter had in decade before .
Brian Rose there were only 9 legit world champions before him. And to be fair: Sammartino, Pedro Morales, Superstar, Bob Backlund, Sgt. Slaughter, Hulk Hogan, Warrior, Flair and Savage did seem like bigger stars then him. And who at that time in 1993 was in the company not named these guys seem like they were bigger? And the first 3 and a half were before Vincent K was in charge. And one was arguably a transitional champ in Slaughter. But debatable.
Hogan had become stale at that point and fans were starting to not care anymore about him. This was the beginning of a new era where the smaller wrestlers were going to shine so yes I do firmly believe Vince told Bret that Hogan would put him over. Vince also changed his mind and lied about the whole thing too which Vince is notorious for doing.
I would have put the strap on Hennig in late 92 after he turns on Flair and Heenan. Has a career vs title match with Flair at RR 93. Bret wins RR 93 and the beats Hennig at WM for the title. Yoko could have worked with Taker or Hogan without putting the strap on him.
@@robandrews81 True but I think he was fit enough in late 92 to early 93 to be a transitional champion. He was always over. And his match with Bret at KOTR 93 was sensational for an undercard match. They could have put on a WM main even that was every bit as good if not better than Bret’s match with Bulldog at summerslam.
Brets bitter? He's miserable from all the shit he had to put up with such as hogan/Vince deal, Shawn being an ass to him, Montreal screwjob, Owen's death, His career ending via severe concussion, stroke, depression and he even had cancer. If you had all of that you would be in the same boat as Bret wouldn't you?
@@adammccallion8640 on all accounts Bret was like that even back then. Bruce Prichard, Sycho Sid, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, Vice Russo, and Ric Flair have all said at one time or another that Bret took himself way too seriously and was difficult to work with. Let’s not forget that a few years ago Bret said that Goldberg should be giving him some of the money that he makes from the Saudi shows. Sean was better than that because of his jealousy and ego Bret couldn’t except it.
@@justinwalker2928 but he made stars like Stone Cold, 123 kid, Diesel, Owen, Davey etc look like million bucks. I can see why he takes himself seriously. Because he turned all those guys into big names. I agree Shawn Michaels was better but Bret Hart wasn't far behind.
I don’t understand why Bret would be so upset about wrestling Hogan. It would be a babyface vs babyface program, which in my opinion wouldn’t draw money.
Bret was told he would work with Hulk Hogan at Summerslam 93, winning the title. Hulk changed his mind. Refused to do a job to Bret. So they switch from Bret winning the title and be the highest paid position, to working with Lawler. Why is it hard for people to understand this? It has nothing to do with Jerry. Who wouldn't be disappointed? Like, cmon.
Bret having to curtian jerk on PPVs with PCO, Hakushi and Jerry Lawyer's Dentist while Deisel stunk up the main event is to this day the most stupid thing Vince has ever done. The steriod trial put WWE on life support and Vince's pen in 1995 nearly pulled the plug.
Hogan could never understand how to wrestle bret hart,he'd make those stupid hogan noises with his stupid punches and hart will wrap him up in knots.Hogan had no idea how to wrestle at all except for brawling
He should of beat him hogan was washed already by 93 he was getting Booed everytime even when he went to wcw in 1994 and I’m a fan of both but The hitman deserve a clean win on hogan no matter a sharpshooter or a roll up don’t matter it was his time
the weakest part of Mania 9 and Mania 10 was how the fuck does salt in your eyes make your shoulders stick to the mat? and falling off the turnbuckle is enough for a pin without a follow up move? Bret couldnt hit a elbow drop from the ropes?
I thought Bret knocked it out the park in King of the Ring, three different great matches in the same night. Bret was always used as a transitional champion, mainly because of his first run, which was lacklustre as everyone that was any good, had left the company, Bret needed real heels like Dibiase or Jake Roberts.
Hard to believe hardly anything that Bruce says because he's got his lips too firmly placed on Vince's backside. Given the landscape at the time, so many things would have worked or not worked and it's anyone's guess as to what would have been best. If Vince wanted to put the title on Bret, he should have waited to do it at a PPV. Flair wins the title back from Macho and then holds onto it until Survivor Series or Royal Rumble. Bret wins the title there and then faces another top face like Macho at WrestleMania and goes over. Bret goes onto the King of the Ring and faces Mr. Perfect but it goes to a draw and a rematch is automatically scheduled for SummerSlam but at King of the Ring, there is a stipulation that says that the winner of the tournament gets the title shot at SummerSlam. The tournament is won by a heel, such as Razor or Shawn, and it becomes a match between Perfect and the King of the Ring, and Bret ends up facing Perfect and loses it to him. I mean, that would have made more sense than what we got.
Then there's the other "other side". The company was built on doing the exact same thing to other wrestling companies. JYD didn't leave mid south to make a tv show....well i guess I should say a non wrestling tv sh.....nope that doesn't work either....a show that didn't involve guys in tights throwing each other around. He went to the competition.
No way hulk wouldve let bret beat him with the sharpshooter clean....He wouldnt be that stupid. Thats why i know vince is one not being straight!!! At the end of the day hulk put a young talent over yoko was world champ thanks to hulk. Hulk even left on a stretcher never to be seen again
Hulk was finished and just wanted one last moment in the spotlight despite coming back yet again and winning the title at tyhe age of 51, Hogan was the king of the 80`s, that was his era, he should have moved to the WCW as soon as warrior beat him, every match he had after that in the WWE was crap aside from his matches with The Rock and Earthquake, but he wasn`t tyhe main event v Rock and summerslam 90 where he beat earthquake wa a PPV flop.
@@markant9534 He was trying to retire once he lost to warrior he wanted to do movies but vince brought him back cuz warrior wasnt selling as much as hulk anymore then hogan retired again in 92!! N vince brought him back close to mania 9 in 93 cuz the ppv buyrates werent good he tried to salvage it by bringing hulk n putting him in tag match ...Bret hart at this point wasnt drawing ppl were to used to seeing him as a tag team guy for so many yrs and yoko he was a rookie whom most ppl didnt know the interest wasnt there and ppl can hate all they want but hogan Got the biggest pops of the night. He didnt have creative control in wwf that was all vince idea if he did im sure he wouldnt had lost to warrior whom he disliked. Vince tried recreating hogan with lex n it flop...hogan got his creative control in wcw. H brought wrestling back when he turned heel
K B Bret did the same when he was the same age Hogan was during this time. He left to do movies. James Mitchell called him one of the 5 biggest stars in wrestling after Hogan, Savage, Flair and Piper in mid 1998 for a reason.
Wrestling backstage is the weirdest shit I’ve ever heard. The boss should have 100% creative control. Why are guys on the roster making plans about who do I let get over? Weird.
Bret was a mark for himself he legit thought he was the greatest in the world it's about more than just knowing how to wrestle his promos were fair at best but his charisma was shit! There is a story when he was tagged with Neidhart and he met the midnight express he legit didn't know who they were and this was when the express was the hottest heel team in the world when he was told that he said no him and Neidhart were the best sorry but Hart Foundation weren't close to midnight express
Bret was the best worker in the wrestling business PERIOD. He made everyone look like a million bucks when he wrestled them. You can definitely put the Hart Foundation up there with the Midnight Express easily.
Bryan Mack At some point, Bret does have to move past the bad times, agreed And he has.....right? I don't get the impression that he's moping around his mansion with his kids and his wife bitter about all of this...do you? "Bret's unhappy about everything" seems like such a baseless, thoughtless thing to say....I don't think Bret faking a Theranos Elizabeth Holmes expression for his interviews means "Omg, he's finally moved on"
Rico Salvaje I'd hope that Conrad isn't that blatantly petty and biased, God knows Flair has a lot of his own problems that can't be ignored Conrad....reality check brother, don't endorse these generic TH-cam trolls, they say nothing worth hearing and they think nothing worth thinking They're trash in every sense, be better than that, you have a lot going for you, don't endorse these losers
R.A.J. agreed, dont feed the trolls or befreind them because they are very fickle. Bret isnt perfect but that guy was a better wrestler than ric flair. Flair has more great matches because he had 10 years on top and the best wreslers to wrestle with. Bret had 92-97 and was thrown up and down the card due to vince trying to find the next hulk hogan.
So Royal Rumble '93, Bret was supposed to beat Warrior with a sharpshooter and then SummerSlam '93, he was supposed to beat Hogan with a sharpshooter as well. Hmmmm... Something doesn't seem right about this...
Bret usually can't wait to put himself over. That's just Bret. Bret is really good at moaning and complaining. That's why him being heel Bret was the only good Bret.
Jerry Lawler had heat? Somebody crapped in his crown that first night. That's why he didn't wear it going to the ring for The Royal Rumble. I love how Conrad tries to make "going into Vince's office" Bret's fault with Shawn Michaels and Hulk Hogan.
Bret Hart was the best in the wwf at the time 1993 king of the ring proves that. Imagine bret vs hogan or curt heening series of matches for the title. But vince was still in love with the big American style of wrestlers that were boring .hogan didn't wana put anyone over who the fans cheered for. He hated anyone being on his level especially a baby face.
Bret, Goldberg, and Piper.....Hogan put more guys than all 3 of those Come bind when they were all top talent. People like to shit on Kevin Nash and Scott Hall but those guys put people over, guys like Brett Hart they were the biggest marks about them selves. By 1994 Bret Harte had literally beat everyone on the roster clean and it still wasn’t enough for this egomaniac.
Bret and Scott Steiner are irrelevant to everyone outside of the Monday Night Wars. We only remember Bret and Steiner because they were just there for the Monday Night Wars era.
“In his book, he can’t wait to put himself over.” The entire Bret autobiography in a nutshell. Only others who were put over that book were Stu and Owen.
@@chrisbeckett14 he definitely didnt. He praised a lot of people in that.book. Harley Race, Andre, Tiger Mask, Dick Murdoch, Rick Rude, Curt Hennig, Ross, Leo Burke, The Steiners, Moe from Men on a Mission, Dr. D, Dynamite was Good, Bad and Ugly, Rey Misterio, Eddie Guerrero, Sting, Booker T, Stone Cold, Chris Benoit, Randy Savage, King Kong Bundy etc. With an asinine comment like the one he made, he has no credibility.
@@chrisbeckett14 Read it twice. Story about seeing Jake Roberts when he was supposed to be injured. Bret going to visit Dynamite and asking what happened to his car and Dynamite saying, “Fookin n****s did it.” Him trashing Dean Malenko. Him calling Dynamite to come back to the WWF in 92. The black lady who stalked him at the airport. His stories of infidelity and his excuses of “I was on the road all the time. Julie and I were fighting. Of course im going to seek companionship.” I’ll say it again. That book was a love letter to himself.
Bret hart is and always will be the best, bruce prichard is and always will be the boss'es pet, and cheif ass kisser, whatever he says is tinged with non truth, he will go to his grave knowing he never told the truth on thease podcasts., hogan and vince are the same if not worse. Bret can hold his head up high i beleive
It makes sense Hulk didnt want to lose to Bret. Hulk was considered one of the strongest wrestlers and it wouldn't make sense for Bret to beat him. Hogan loses to Super Heavyweights, not middleweights.
@@knowyourroleboulevard7119 hulk hogan when je came back in 1993 he was over But vince choose other wise When hulk hogan beat yokozuna in wrestlemania 9 every fan pop fir hulk hogan
I'll at least give you he was always a consistent draw in Canada. But the only time where he really was the hottest draw in the world was in 97 when he got screwed and went to WCW and bombed (partially not his fault).
The Duke Of Aaron Savage(2) and Flair didn't draw as well as expected though. It didn't matter who was champ. The numbers were bummer regardless. Austin wasn't a draw in 1997 really. I say 97 as PWI ranked him as the biggest WWF wrestler of 1997. And look where 97 was. It was till Iron Mike Tyson they had their product revival in 98.
@@knowyourroleboulevard7119 this is true. I look at the boom periods. Bret had nothing to do w it BUT he was also horrendously booked during that time too so I can't completely blame him.
Well, Bret dropped the title when asked to Yoko, Bob Backlund, Shawn Michaels and Sid... how is he not legit? Bret carried the company as world champ, and was a midcarder as IC champ, so your point is kind of pointless
Wm 9 should have been macho v Bret. Macho would have put him over. End of
But how to throwing Yoko of the top rope ?
Absolutely. Macho was never above putting younger talent over. Before he parted ways with the WWF in 1994 he had even been lobbying Vince to put him in an angle with Shawn Michaels that would have ended in Macho's retirement after he put Shawn over.
@@Jayce_Alexander at Wrestlemania 11
Vince completely dropped the ball with Savage from '93-'94. All he really did in those two years was feud with Crush.
Randy had so much left in him and they relegated him to the announcers's table.
@@TheSBleeder since survivor series 1992, Savage became a part time wrestler before he went to WCW
If i worked 300 days a year wrestled 3 times in one night get promised a match with the biggest wrestler in history and then get a fued with a comedy heel announcer I would be pissed off too.
That's a bit unfair. Lawler was a great a heel back then. The feud with him and Bret was very good.
The Lawler and Hart feud was awesome Lawler was a amazing heel
It was still a step down for Bret, who had been IC champion and World Champion already.
@@apostolostvable Especially given the fact that Lawler was well past his prime by then.
Bret vs lawler was the best feud in the wwf in 93.
Bruce got his wwe job back. Dude never ever criticizes hunter or Vince lol.
crashintonickdm A true kiss ass!
@Philip Bolin Relax
@White Dad Sneaks He is a kiss ass. He contradicts himself CONSTANTLY. The only thing you can be sure of is he's full of shit. Hell, Cornette has made fun of him for lying all the time and he likes Bruce.
Bruce is a wwe yes man. He has his head so far up Vince ass
Now he's head writer of both Raw and Smackdown.
Bret was always the best. 1993 King of The Ring was awesome.
Frenetic Zetetic It was really a one man show, all 3 of Bret's matches were excellent, the opener was Top 5 of Scott Hall's career, the Mr Perfect match was one the best matches ever, the Bam Bam match was his best WWF match and probably in his Top 10 ever
Best storyline of the night as well, each match building into the next, Bret's performance blew away everything from that night, it's too bad the WWF didn't follow it up with Bret vs Hogan at SummerSlam, they could have always inserted Yoko and Luger into the title picture afterwards
100% agree, my man! Well said!
@@whtevr84 it was a very significant ppv because of Bret Hart
@Mr McMahon it is not because of that
I loved his match with Mr. Perfect at that event. Just wish it had been longer.
Essentially, Vince McMahon had separate conversations with Hulk Hogan and Bret Hart. Hogan and Bret spoke to each other, then spoke together with Vince, and both realized Vince lied to both of them.
And Bret may have returned the favor
Missed opportunity of a LIFETIME!!! They could have set up a match between Hogan and Bret for the title at SummerSlam (like they originally planned) and have Hogan turn HEEL. Hogan could have cut promos about how he's the biggest star in WWF history and how Bret doesn't stand a chance against him, etc.... The Hogan heel turn in WCW (with the NWO) would happen just a few years later. Hogan began his WWF career as a heel with Freddy Blassie as his manager, and he could have turned heel again on the way out. Bret would have been the underdog taking on the toughest champion in company history. The man that beat Bundy, Andre, Sid, Undertaker, etc... Imagine how over Bret would have been to get a win over Hogan at SummerSlam. THAT would have launched the New Generation era better than anything ever.
@@taekwondotime Vince not turning Hogan heel was definitely one of his biggest mistakes. Hogan said he wanted to turn heel when lost to Warrior...but Vince said it would never work.
@@isitoveryet9525 Vince had the same mentality with Hagan as he does with John Cena. He would never turn Cena heel because kids love him.
Bingo
To be fair, he wasn’t booked the way a former world champ should have been.
i'm biggest Bret Hart mark there can be, but he was better booked than any former champion other than Hulk, Warrior and arguably Taker. He was better booked than Shieky, Backlund, Stasiak, Slaughter, etc. I'd say Savage had a worse win/loss record as former champ, and a similar push. But at the same time, Bret had a point.
stasiak? wtf ?
Yes, Stan Stasiak. Former WWWF Champion.
The thing is that the Lawler feud didnt go over that well, because Lawler had to pull out of it due to his legal trouble, and Bret was left lingering...they should have kept him feuding with Bam Bam instead of Doink.
Bret didn't feud with Bam Bam, he worked house shows with him in Europe. They faced during the KOTR tournament. Lawler was out for a few months, and the Bret vs Lawler feud lasted over two years.
WM 9 shouldve been Savage vs Bret. Imagine that classic.
I never understood why Savage didn’t participate in WM9. He should have been facing someone.
Or WM X
@@ariesmichaelsayan4013 Savage wanted to put over HBK
@@rubenarriaga3029 yesss!! Savage planned a 2 year feud with Michaels and Vince didn’t go along with it. They wanted Savage to only do commentary and put over the new talent. It was Vince’s loss and he was pissed about losing Slim Jim over it. He should have treated Savage a bit better instead trying to put his career on a shelf.
It should have been, seems like he was out of the main events after Survivor Series 92. Savage should have been the guy for Summer Slam 93, instead of Luger.
*Bret was never put over strong like former champions were* . Ultimate Warrior got to beat Hogan clean at WM but never lost clean to anyone. Hogan won the title clean from Iron Shiek and stayed unbeaten for ages. Bret wins the title on a house show (not a PPV) so nobody sees it, and then LOSES TO A HEEL (Yokozuna) at his first WM as champion. That's some serious BS.
Bret should have won the title from Ric Flair on a PPV (WM8 for example) and then held onto it versus Yokozuna. You could have had Fuji and Yoko beat up Bret after the match at WM9 and then have Hogan come out and make the save, put the title on Bret, pop the crowd, and then let Bret celebrate in the ring to close the show. He needed to win the title and defend it on PPVs to build him as champion. It wasn't going to happen on house shows.
I agree to an extent it Should have been on ppv but a lot of titles changed hands at house shows because they were profitable back then and made house shows must see. But around this time perception was changing I just don't think WWE realized it yet tv matches were becoming a big deal and ppvs were down them.
Chozah fearless was
Taekwondo Time
Bret sucked.
You can’t compare though because they were different eras
Not true. From summerslam 92-survivor series 97 bret only jobbed 1 time clean and that was to his brother Owen at mania 10 and he went on to win the world title later that night. He was booked incredibly strong.
Did anyone here subscribe to the WWF Magazine in 1993?
In I believe either the May or June edition, they did a 2-page column on who would win between Hogan (who was the champ) and Bret.
Of course, they knew full well that that match was never going to happen.
If that match ever happened, Bret would had been the rightful heel.. Hogan was still wildly popular in 1993... No matter what the smarks try to convince everyone that Hogan was old and people now cared only for New Generation wrestlers like Bret Hart, Duke Drosese and Adam Bomb.. Bret was still relatively new as a main eventer and was slowly transfering to a full fledged babyface after endless years of being a heel with Neidhart and Jimmy Hart... The fans still loved Hogan as the main hero and everyone else with the exception of Taker, Ultimate Warrior and Macho Man was way below him in popularity levels.
Its called "testing the waters"
Yes I was subscribed
Hogan would have NEVER lost to Bret Hart, BUT ONLY because he would never actually do the job for Bret... Bret deserved to go over Hogan in 93, absolutely, just The Hulkster was such a win greedy backstage politician he never would have agreed to put Bret over... Even when he lost back to Yoko there was the fireball bullshit, wasn't a clean victory. He barely ever put anyone over clean... Hogan only cares about himself and how he looked, he didn't care about the business or any of the boys... Fuck Hogan...
@@Nostalgicguy2242 😂😂 bret would have been the rightful heel? Dude, the crowd would have turn on hogan in a hart v hogan match in 93. Hogan would have looked like a big bully beating up a little bret hart. Remember hogan was always booked as the underdog against 400lbs plus guys or 7ft tall giants. Much like bret was, but hogan never hart in 93, hogan would have became the heel and hogan knew that and didn't want the match.
To Bret and his career, he was already King of The Ring. He won it the year before. Wasn’t advertised or even tv I believe.
David Serrano Bret was the King of the Ring winner from the the untelevised tournament in 1991, 1992 didn't have one, then from 1993 onwards they made the tournament into a PPV show...they had other KOTR tournaments on a smaller scale starting in 1985 with Don Muraco being the first winner
Lmao I love how they imitate mcmahons voice
Desiree Johnson goddamn, pal!
As Bobby Heenan had once said about the Memphis territory..."The only guys who went there were guys who were starting out or finishing up. You didn't go to Memphis to make money."
I believe Bret Hart’s side of the story 100%.
Bret has always been truthful and his story has never changed.
I believe he is a gullible fuck for ever thinking he was going over Hogan with the sharpshooter lol
Of course you do, you're a mark.
Bret Hart was only happy when he was the champ and main eventing shows.
Makes sense that's where the money is. Also not to many other people making the case yo be I. That spot while he was there. Hogans run was played out and he clearly didn't want to be full time. Vince tried.and wanted luger and the fans rejected him.
Shawn was still ways away from being ready for the spot. Diesel was a bit of a rough sell as.a Babyface he seemed to Garner more attention as a very tough to beat heel, plus was really green. Savage didn't wanna do full time (Savage says so himself) I guess people think he did wanna go full time cause he wrestled in WCW, but they were offering big money and lighter schedules.
They passed Bret up to get o e more run out of Hogan, which wasn't as I believe as successful as they had originally hoped for. Then tried Lex who didn't work. By the time WM10 came.around and Bret got it back it was clear he was.#1. they felt he could be the champ they let h beat Ric Flair clean for the title,and all Bret knew beforehand was how WWF treated Hulk as the top guy so he always compared what he was.doing to what he knew which was Hogan.
Also in Bret's the if you put the title on a Babyface that was a big deal. Heels were transitional champs not so much babyfaces (at least that had been WWFs formula and probably the formula on Stampede).Most promotions wouldn't put the big strap on a guy under 30 or even in some.cases that was a bit young depending how long they were in the business. It is clear though the WWF had big shoes.to fill with Hogan gone and we're.trying new things which led to title.chnages becoming more common especially with more PPV introduced.
Bret was the best worker in the business and knew how to make others look like a million bucks. Besides this was the New Generation era and he was the face of the company.
It seems like Bret was unhappy with a lot of things
And rightly.
Bret is, was n always will be unhappy.
Bret Hart is the biggest baby in the history of the business.
Phenomenal worker, but a total whiny brat.
At this time frame I was just starting to become a rapid wrestling fan. As someone stated before, Vince told Hogan one thing and Brett another thing. He played both because that was best for business.
Would it kill you to refer to the period of 1979 to 2001 as WWF instead of WWE?
RIP Dusty Hill and the old opening track... #Cheers Dusty! It's now eternally #MillerTime for you up in the sky brother ❤️
I can't lie... Bret was a phenomenal worker & in-ring technician, but I'll be damned if he wasn't also a whiner too often
You don't think shawn michaels whined are you kidding me.
Lmao Shawn Michaels was the biggest whiner ever but yet Vince loved him.
Bret’s entire WWF run was built on Vince never 100% backing him as the guy because he didn’t look like Hogan or Warrior (a mistake he continues to make to this day)
Yet, when others floundered as champion in the 90s, there was always the stable, fallback choice. Bret might have never been Hogan, but he made the company more money than anyone left.
Bret saved the WWF at it`s lowest point then handed the torch over to Michaels during he screwjob who n turn handed the top spot to Austen who then made more money for the company as the healine act than anybody else, all three did there part during that fragile low point in WWF history.
I would've kept Bret as the dominant champion throughout '93 and into '94. Defends and defeats a crazed heel Randy Savage at Wrestlemania IX, narrowly makes it out alive against Bigelow at King Of The Ring '93, saved by a knockout from Luger at Summerslam '93, only to be betrayed by Owen at Survivor Series '93, missing out Royal Rumble '94 with a brief "knee injury" and losing to Owen at Wrestlemania X, only to regain the belt at Summerslam '94. And keeping the belt until around Survivor Series '94, losing the belt again to Bigelow (taking Backlund's spot).
A perfectionist like Bret will never be happy. Bret is a tough guy to sell and took everything so seriously. I'm a huge mark for Bret and still think he's probably the best wrestler to have ever lived (imo). But, he's not without his drawbacks.
Also I agree with Lawler taking up PPV spots with Bret was stupid. No one really cared about that feud
Especially since the SummerSlam match was against Doink, and they knew nobody would pay for that (no matter how good it was), so they pulled a bait and switch. Feud would have been more memorable if the Survivor Series match had happened the way it was supposed to.
Bret was probably planned in to get his rematch for the title at SummerSlam against Yoko but, Vince saw big money in a USA v Japan feud and Bret just wasnt the guy to represent either.
Riiiight, that's why WM9 was Bret vs Yoko (BEFORE THIS) and WM10 was Bret vs Yoko again (AFTER THIS)...
what does that have to do with what I said?
Clearly 'a big USA vs Japan feud' wasn't what Vince wanted and/or it wasn't 'big money', which is why Lex was a failed experiment and Bret was a proven commodity
Bret was great in ring but he was never going be the chosen face the way Hogan or Warrior were built up & protected by Vince. I doubt he was ever paid the same amount of money by Vince either, but he was still the longest reigning WWF champ of the 90s overall. I think it was hard for him to accept that he was more of a 'secondary' champion.
Because vince is gay for muscles. I know bret didnt draw money like hogan but im guessing he probably drew as well or better than warrior. So idk why vince wouldnt push bret and protect him as much as warrior.
WWE is BETTER than New Japan! Vince paid him 400,000 US Dollars, from 1993-96 then WCW made Bret 2.7 million US Dollars offer each year for 3years, Vince then made Bret a 20 year deal for 1.5 million US Dollars a year and Bret took that deal because of more money over the long run, but Vince after a year of that and seeing Stone Cold as his new star, decided that Bret wasn't worth it , plus Bret was 40, he told Bret to take the WCW deal, Bret did and the Screwjob happened.
In Bret's mind, he was a bigger star than Hogan, Savage, Warrior, Diesel and Shawn combined.
R.A.J. Firstly, I picked Diesel and Shawn because they were the other major stars during Bret's run in the WWF in the mid 90's. In fact, each guy was pushed as the top babyface ahead of Bret in 1995 and 1996 respectively. So yes, there was a purpose behind listing them.
Secondly, let me teach you a little English, which might help when replying to others in the future. Do you know what the word "combined" means? Because if you don't, I suggest you grab a dictionary and look it up. And then you might not be so eager to focus on individuals listed, rather than the group as a whole.
Thirdly, if you bothered to read Bret's book, you would realise that this guy's ego was so out of control that it would require its own wing in the Hall of Fame. Hell, Bret's ego could fill a whole building. And that was even before the Montreal Screwjob.
Finally, you got personal with your original reply. I simply returned fire. It's called a receipt. It's not my fault you got your panties in a bunch because I dared to say anything negative about your hero Bret Hart. Fans like you make me wanna puke.
Mark Robinson I've Read Bret's book, heard his interviews, and I've also read and heard enough from Hogan, Warrior, Shawn, and Nash...they all have huge egos, some are deluded, but they all think highly of themselves, to single out Bret's ego from that bunch is inane...you may be offended by him because you're not a fan, but objectively Bret's ego is no worse than anybody you've mentioned
I don't need a spitefull small booger like you to edify what you meant by your original comment when that comment itself is the epitome of worthless bitchiness...you could've grouped any list of top stars together, that's how random and worthless your comment was, breaking it down only further illustrated that
The fact that you included names that weren't bigger than Bret within a group of other big names again shows how sprawled out your ideas are, you have no idea what you're talking about
Your comments annoyed me because they're a dime a dozen, thoughtless generic drivel posing as being a clever putdown....you think you're funny, but your material isn't even good enough to wipe the inside of a toilet clean, this isn't about "my hero", it's that idiot wrestling fans like you are like car exhaust, you pollute every conversation that arises
Dumbass...
I like that their idea was to have the belt on "unbeatable heel" Yokozuna, and their way to launch their new "unbeatable" heel champion was to have Bret Sharpshooter him and only lose because Fuji threw salt in his eyes, then have Hogan squash him in 30 seconds immediately after. Good job idiots, I can't imagine why business died off in 93.
Bret had 3 matches, and all were different and great. Top that Hogan with your 5 brawling moves, brother!
Hogan great matches too and he actually drew money and he put yokozuna over a rookie
Vince is ALWAYS thinking about money
@Ra HoWa true but he can't take all that money with him when he dies
I'm always thinking about money and I've got zero in my current account and £2 in my savings.
Ya its weird how owners of businesses think. Lol
Yeah, it's almost like he's a Billionaire or something...
Bret really thought he was going to beat Hogan with a submission move? Seriously?
Why not? The sharpshooter was Bret's finisher.
@@KB-hh8rt Baby face Hogan would have never lost by submission. Ever.
That doesn’t work for me, brother!
Seriously Hulks story is full of crap and I don't blame Bret for being as pissed off as he was about the whole situation. Hogan knew his time was finished and could see Bret eventually taking the crown from him as the next great wwf champion for years to come. His ego wouldn't let him pass the torch over to Bret so he decides ok I'll just lose to Yokozuna that way he wouldn't give Bret the satisfaction of having defeated him. Prove me wrong. Hogan never saw Bret Hart as being in his league.
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That's true, it was all an ego thing and that's why Bret got screwed in the WM9 finish and then Hogan lied about dropping the belt to Bret at Summerslam. Hogan has always put himself first instead of the business.
I would be unhappy as well, going from WWF Champ to a silly ass comedy feud.
Why I never get to see Bret Hart vs big bass man
Is that a fishing gimmick?
The Big Boss Bass
He wrestled against him in tag matches when boss man was part of the twin towers. I'm pretty sure they wrestled singles but I never saw it
Bret vs Hogan at SummerSlam as a non-title match would have worked. Even with the photoshoot playing tug-o-war with the belt. Yoko beats Hogan at KOTR, as planned, then Hogan faces Bret at SummerSlam for #1 Contender and a title shot at Survivor Series. Yoko could still face newly turned Lex Luger, same finish, which could open up the chance for Hogan vs Luger down the road. I could see Hogan putting over Bret in a situation like this, but I don't think he would have ever put Bret over for the title.
Unicron's Balls I don't think Hogan wanted to put Bret over in any capacity, regardless if the title belt was involved, Bret was the next guy Vince was gonna run with after Hogan and Hogan never liked that
He was still bitter after the torch was passed to the Ultimate Warrior and was hopeful and ultimately happy that Warrior's time at the top failed, so that Vince could keep running back to Hulkamania, which Hogan thought could go on forever (even though Hogan was also failing to draw business)
After Hogan hijacked his way into becoming WWF champ at WM 9, Hogan worked tags with Beefcake against Money Inc beating them by DQ over and over
After Yoko pinned (by exploding camera) Hogan to regain the belt, Hogan was beating Yoko by DQ on all the European tour dates they worked until Hogan left for good
If you look at his track record, Hogan had no interest in putting anybody over, much less somebody who was considered a replacement to him, even though Hogan didn't improve business and wasn't drawing
Most selfish wrestler EVER...The Huckster...Hulk Hogan
I doubt even Vince, wanted to see Hogan lose clean to Bret.
When Hogan came back in Feb 93, it was pretty much always just going to be a quick 1 big match cash in for Hulk, and that was at WM 9. Hulk realised his star power and influence in wwf was gone and done and so did Vince, which is why they didnt try to make a long term deal. Instead they worked out a deal for that upcoming tour in july in europe, because Hulk was still very popular in europe. So the idea was just to do that only. Vince doesn't like baby face v babyface matches, thats why we didnt get a Warrior v Hogan rematch. You rarely ever saw a face v face in wwf at that time. Vince probably didnt want Bret to look like a bad guy in beating Hulk. Besides that Vince still had some doubts about Bret being his number 1 guy. He kinda only put the belt on Bret to take it away from Flair. The idea was to put the title on Warrior before Warrior got fired in Oct 92. Bret was a fill in. The plan was to put the title on a Big Man, ie: Yoko, or Luger. WCW had Vader Yoko was a bigger Vader. The Magazines will tease any possibility to make sells. Bottom line: Vince was really unsure of having Hogan v Bret and Bret Hart can come off sounding pushy and entitled.
Hogan was never asked by Vince to wrestle Bret, and Bret was not really meant to keep the title for very long. If it had not been for Hogan Bret probably would have lost it to Yoko or a heel Lex Luger.
except the main events of Wrestlemania VI and SummerSlam '92 and the co-main event of SummerSlam '92 and Rockers vs Hart Foundation and Hart Foundation vs Legion of Doom and Hart Brothers vs Steiner Brothers and The Rock vs Stone Cold and Hulk Hogan vs Shawn Michaels and Shawn Michaels vs Ric Flair and Shawn Michaels vs Undertaker and John Cena vs Undertaker and ...
Every time I hear this dude with Bruce, I keep thinking he's J.R..
To be real with ya I 💚Heel Bret Hart to me that was his best character cause the S.O.B was shooting in his promos just check it 96/97 era that's how a HEEL John Cena should end his career don't ya think 😕
I loved heel Bret in 97 but technically he was only heel in America and face in the rest of the world remember the flag match in canada? Hart foundation were heroes and team austin was booed 97 is an underrated year imo but heel cena wouldnt work I dont think because of how bad we all want it the heel turn would make him more cheered than ever before
John Cena should have ended his career in 1999... (For anyone about to call me dumb and say he didn't start until the early 2000s, I know... Figure it out)
Conrad thinks he knows all about wrestling
He's an arrogant fat head. Don't know why? He's weakness personified, so he has no reason to be as arrogant as he is
Who's watching this September 2019?
im still stuck in 1997 bro
@@kerpal321 that's a good year to be stuck in
Scott Alderson October 2019 lol
I don’t believe it for one minute that Vince told Bret that he would beat Hogan with the sharp shooter at Sumer Slam. No way in 93 was going to have the biggest baby face in company history just give up to another baby face, who at that time was the company’s lowest drawing World Champion ever. Bret’s first title run did not have the numbers that Hogan, Savage, Flair, Warrior, or Sgt. Slaughter had in decade before .
@White Dad SNEAKERS absolutely.
Brian Rose there were only 9 legit world champions before him.
And to be fair:
Sammartino, Pedro Morales, Superstar, Bob Backlund, Sgt. Slaughter, Hulk Hogan, Warrior, Flair and Savage did seem like bigger stars then him. And who at that time in 1993 was in the company not named these guys seem like they were bigger? And the first 3 and a half were before Vincent K was in charge. And one was arguably a transitional champ in Slaughter. But debatable.
Hogan had become stale at that point and fans were starting to not care anymore about him. This was the beginning of a new era where the smaller wrestlers were going to shine so yes I do firmly believe Vince told Bret that Hogan would put him over. Vince also changed his mind and lied about the whole thing too which Vince is notorious for doing.
I would have put the strap on Hennig in late 92 after he turns on Flair and Heenan. Has a career vs title match with Flair at RR 93. Bret wins RR 93 and the beats Hennig at WM for the title.
Yoko could have worked with Taker or Hogan without putting the strap on him.
Problem was Curt had injury issues.
@@robandrews81 True but I think he was fit enough in late 92 to early 93 to be a transitional champion. He was always over. And his match with Bret at KOTR 93 was sensational for an undercard match. They could have put on a WM main even that was every bit as good if not better than Bret’s match with Bulldog at summerslam.
Its funny bruce wouldn't share his views to bret. I would love to see bret stretch bruce
sounds kinda gay.
@@thatdudewithtrexarms8594 says the pussy named will plymon your name wreaks of homosexuality
Was Bret ever sponsored by Playtex?
No, Midol
No bret was sponsored by stretching people who disrespected him
I believe Bret because Vince and Hogan have both proven to be liars... And Bret, while bitter, has also been truthful...
I agree, from all the stories I've heard you can't trust Vince or Hogan.
Brets bitter? He's miserable from all the shit he had to put up with such as hogan/Vince deal, Shawn being an ass to him, Montreal screwjob, Owen's death, His career ending via severe concussion, stroke, depression and he even had cancer. If you had all of that you would be in the same boat as Bret wouldn't you?
@@adammccallion8640 on all accounts Bret was like that even back then. Bruce Prichard, Sycho Sid, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, Vice Russo, and Ric Flair have all said at one time or another that Bret took himself way too seriously and was difficult to work with. Let’s not forget that a few years ago Bret said that Goldberg should be giving him some of the money that he makes from the Saudi shows. Sean was better than that because of his jealousy and ego Bret couldn’t except it.
@@justinwalker2928 but he made stars like Stone Cold, 123 kid, Diesel, Owen, Davey etc look like million bucks. I can see why he takes himself seriously. Because he turned all those guys into big names. I agree Shawn Michaels was better but Bret Hart wasn't far behind.
I don’t understand why Bret would be so upset about wrestling Hogan. It would be a babyface vs babyface program, which in my opinion wouldn’t draw money.
Should've had Bret kept the belt but no Hogan played backstage politics and Vince lied to Bret.
Bret was told he would work with Hulk Hogan at Summerslam 93, winning the title. Hulk changed his mind. Refused to do a job to Bret. So they switch from Bret winning the title and be the highest paid position, to working with Lawler.
Why is it hard for people to understand this? It has nothing to do with Jerry. Who wouldn't be disappointed? Like, cmon.
The rumor and innuendo is
Not as bad as how they booked him in 95 😬
Bret having to curtian jerk on PPVs with PCO, Hakushi and Jerry Lawyer's Dentist while Deisel stunk up the main event is to this day the most stupid thing Vince has ever done. The steriod trial put WWE on life support and Vince's pen in 1995 nearly pulled the plug.
chat me up. never heard a person say that in my life. CHAT ME UP.
Tell me about it where I come from chat me up means flirting
Hogan could never understand how to wrestle bret hart,he'd make those stupid hogan noises with his stupid punches and hart will wrap him up in knots.Hogan had no idea how to wrestle at all except for brawling
If Bret actually believed that babyface Hulk Hogan was going to submit to the Sharpshooter, then his ego clearly overrode his thinking.
Bret should have beat hogan, possibly with a roll up or small package, much like he beat diesel in 1995
He should of beat him hogan was washed already by 93 he was getting Booed everytime even when he went to wcw in 1994 and I’m a fan of both but The hitman deserve a clean win on hogan no matter a sharpshooter or a roll up don’t matter it was his time
I was never a fan of Yokozuna being champion
Nor me
UnHolyWible he was a heel.
the weakest part of Mania 9 and Mania 10 was how the fuck does salt in your eyes make your shoulders stick to the mat? and falling off the turnbuckle is enough for a pin without a follow up move? Bret couldnt hit a elbow drop from the ropes?
Was he happy about anything?
Brets allowed to put himself over. Idk why Conrad said that like it’s unwarranted
Wait Bret heart was upset about something what a surprise
And rightly.
He had every right to be pissed off. He was screwed over at WM9 and also Summerslam. Vince lied to him several times and kept changing his mind.
I thought Bret knocked it out the park in King of the Ring, three different great matches in the same night. Bret was always used as a transitional champion, mainly because of his first run, which was lacklustre as everyone that was any good, had left the company, Bret needed real heels like Dibiase or Jake Roberts.
Hard to believe hardly anything that Bruce says because he's got his lips too firmly placed on Vince's backside. Given the landscape at the time, so many things would have worked or not worked and it's anyone's guess as to what would have been best. If Vince wanted to put the title on Bret, he should have waited to do it at a PPV. Flair wins the title back from Macho and then holds onto it until Survivor Series or Royal Rumble. Bret wins the title there and then faces another top face like Macho at WrestleMania and goes over. Bret goes onto the King of the Ring and faces Mr. Perfect but it goes to a draw and a rematch is automatically scheduled for SummerSlam but at King of the Ring, there is a stipulation that says that the winner of the tournament gets the title shot at SummerSlam. The tournament is won by a heel, such as Razor or Shawn, and it becomes a match between Perfect and the King of the Ring, and Bret ends up facing Perfect and loses it to him. I mean, that would have made more sense than what we got.
Then there's the other "other side". The company was built on doing the exact same thing to other wrestling companies. JYD didn't leave mid south to make a tv show....well i guess I should say a non wrestling tv sh.....nope that doesn't work either....a show that didn't involve guys in tights throwing each other around. He went to the competition.
No way hulk wouldve let bret beat him with the sharpshooter clean....He wouldnt be that stupid. Thats why i know vince is one not being straight!!! At the end of the day hulk put a young talent over yoko was world champ thanks to hulk. Hulk even left on a stretcher never to be seen again
Hulk was finished and just wanted one last moment in the spotlight despite coming back yet again and winning the title at tyhe age of 51, Hogan was the king of the 80`s, that was his era, he should have moved to the WCW as soon as warrior beat him, every match he had after that in the WWE was crap aside from his matches with The Rock and Earthquake, but he wasn`t tyhe main event v Rock and summerslam 90 where he beat earthquake wa a PPV flop.
@@markant9534 He was trying to retire once he lost to warrior he wanted to do movies but vince brought him back cuz warrior wasnt selling as much as hulk anymore then hogan retired again in 92!! N vince brought him back close to mania 9 in 93 cuz the ppv buyrates werent good he tried to salvage it by bringing hulk n putting him in tag match ...Bret hart at this point wasnt drawing ppl were to used to seeing him as a tag team guy for so many yrs and yoko he was a rookie whom most ppl didnt know the interest wasnt there and ppl can hate all they want but hogan Got the biggest pops of the night. He didnt have creative control in wwf that was all vince idea if he did im sure he wouldnt had lost to warrior whom he disliked. Vince tried recreating hogan with lex n it flop...hogan got his creative control in wcw. H brought wrestling back when he turned heel
Lame booking to have Bret Hart win King of the Ring and then face Jerry Lawler at Summerslam! Pathetic!
Bret = better wrestler/in ring performer
Hogan = bigger star
Yeah but Hogan was doing movies and moving on from the WWF while Bret stayed loyal.
K B Bret did the same when he was the same age Hogan was during this time. He left to do movies. James Mitchell called him one of the 5 biggest stars in wrestling after Hogan, Savage, Flair and Piper in mid 1998 for a reason.
Is Bret Hart ever happy though?
When Vince isn't lying and playing mind games.
In 92/93 Bret was the best worker in the business by far.
Curt Hennig
Bret just wanted to be #1 so he could feel like the hero. He didn’t even care about money.
Title should be "Bret wanted to beat Hogan, but mostly a lot of other stuff...."
Couldn’t you have just saved us 18 min and just say…
“I wasn’t in the room so I have no fucking idea”?
Wrestling backstage is the weirdest shit I’ve ever heard. The boss should have 100% creative control. Why are guys on the roster making plans about who do I let get over? Weird.
Bret was a mark for himself he legit thought he was the greatest in the world it's about more than just knowing how to wrestle his promos were fair at best but his charisma was shit! There is a story when he was tagged with Neidhart and he met the midnight express he legit didn't know who they were and this was when the express was the hottest heel team in the world when he was told that he said no him and Neidhart were the best sorry but Hart Foundation weren't close to midnight express
Bret was the best worker in the wrestling business PERIOD. He made everyone look like a million bucks when he wrestled them. You can definitely put the Hart Foundation up there with the Midnight Express easily.
bret hart is unhappy full stop.
Steven Montgomery but shit yoko was being overlooked.
R.A.J. because conrad is a flair mark. And enjoys bashing bret hart.
Bryan Mack At some point, Bret does have to move past the bad times, agreed
And he has.....right? I don't get the impression that he's moping around his mansion with his kids and his wife bitter about all of this...do you?
"Bret's unhappy about everything" seems like such a baseless, thoughtless thing to say....I don't think Bret faking a Theranos Elizabeth Holmes expression for his interviews means "Omg, he's finally moved on"
Rico Salvaje I'd hope that Conrad isn't that blatantly petty and biased, God knows Flair has a lot of his own problems that can't be ignored
Conrad....reality check brother, don't endorse these generic TH-cam trolls, they say nothing worth hearing and they think nothing worth thinking
They're trash in every sense, be better than that, you have a lot going for you, don't endorse these losers
R.A.J. agreed, dont feed the trolls or befreind them because they are very fickle. Bret isnt perfect but that guy was a better wrestler than ric flair. Flair has more great matches because he had 10 years on top and the best wreslers to wrestle with. Bret had 92-97 and was thrown up and down the card due to vince trying to find the next hulk hogan.
should throw cuz he's s heel into the intro
Bret is the Best of all time I don't give a fuck what anyone says. You better recognize.
So Royal Rumble '93, Bret was supposed to beat Warrior with a sharpshooter and then SummerSlam '93, he was supposed to beat Hogan with a sharpshooter as well. Hmmmm... Something doesn't seem right about this...
@@knowyourroleboulevard7119 I didn't say anything about WrestleMania
Seeing as Hulk is a prolific liar, I think I'm gonna side with the Hitman on this one.
That doesn’t work for me brother
Bret usually can't wait to put himself over. That's just Bret. Bret is really good at moaning and complaining. That's why him being heel Bret was the only good Bret.
I could never get into Yoko
Jerry Lawler had heat? Somebody crapped in his crown that first night. That's why he didn't wear it going to the ring for The Royal Rumble. I love how Conrad tries to make "going into Vince's office" Bret's fault with Shawn Michaels and Hulk Hogan.
Bret Hart was the best in the wwf at the time 1993 king of the ring proves that. Imagine bret vs hogan or curt heening series of matches for the title. But vince was still in love with the big American style of wrestlers that were boring .hogan didn't wana put anyone over who the fans cheered for. He hated anyone being on his level especially a baby face.
Only problem is KOTR doesn't pay as much as being the WC. The World Title is where the money's at or main even
Bret, Goldberg, and Piper.....Hogan put more guys than all 3 of those Come bind when they were all top talent. People like to shit on Kevin Nash and Scott Hall but those guys put people over, guys like Brett Hart they were the biggest marks about them selves. By 1994 Bret Harte had literally beat everyone on the roster clean and it still wasn’t enough for this egomaniac.
Bret and Scott Steiner are irrelevant to everyone outside of the Monday Night Wars. We only remember Bret and Steiner because they were just there for the Monday Night Wars era.
Bret was never going to beat Warrior or Hulk with the sharpshooter like he says
I could believe the Warrior story if Warrior lost via passing out (ala Stone Cold WM13) in the sharpshooter
Ummm, why? You put anyone in the Sharpshooter and bend that back to the point just before it cracks in half, you'll beat anybody!
Like Steve Austin at Wrestlemania 13? lol
At least Bret got to ring the bell when Hogan had to tap to it and lose his belt to Sting 4 years later.
Well, yeah...Bret DID win! I say forcing someone to pass out (into a COMA) is worse than making that ass tap!
“In his book, he can’t wait to put himself over.”
The entire Bret autobiography in a nutshell. Only others who were put over that book were Stu and Owen.
Not true at all. Youre spewing bs.
What a fascinating view you must have of Cunt Hogan.
U obviously ain't read the book
@@chrisbeckett14 he definitely didnt. He praised a lot of people in that.book. Harley Race, Andre, Tiger Mask, Dick Murdoch, Rick Rude, Curt Hennig, Ross, Leo Burke, The Steiners, Moe from Men on a Mission, Dr. D, Dynamite was Good, Bad and Ugly, Rey Misterio, Eddie Guerrero, Sting, Booker T, Stone Cold, Chris Benoit, Randy Savage, King Kong Bundy etc. With an asinine comment like the one he made, he has no credibility.
@@chrisbeckett14 Read it twice. Story about seeing Jake Roberts when he was supposed to be injured. Bret going to visit Dynamite and asking what happened to his car and Dynamite saying, “Fookin n****s did it.” Him trashing Dean Malenko. Him calling Dynamite to come back to the WWF in 92. The black lady who stalked him at the airport. His stories of infidelity and his excuses of “I was on the road all the time. Julie and I were fighting. Of course im going to seek companionship.”
I’ll say it again. That book was a love letter to himself.
Bret hart is and always will be the best, bruce prichard is and always will be the boss'es pet, and cheif ass kisser, whatever he says is tinged with non truth, he will go to his grave knowing he never told the truth on thease podcasts., hogan and vince are the same if not worse. Bret can hold his head up high i beleive
It makes sense Hulk didnt want to lose to Bret. Hulk was considered one of the strongest wrestlers and it wouldn't make sense for Bret to beat him.
Hogan loses to Super Heavyweights, not middleweights.
Bret Hart was a light heavyweight
bret hart never drew like hulk hogan
hogan always was a bigger star
Boxing4Life well who did? Austin maybe. And Rock. But who else?
@@knowyourroleboulevard7119 hulk hogan when je came back in 1993 he was over
But vince choose other wise
When hulk hogan beat yokozuna in wrestlemania 9 every fan pop fir hulk hogan
Hogan was stale in 93 while Bret was getting red hot. Hogan should have done the honors and passed the torch to Bret but his ego said otherwise.
@@KB-hh8rt what a joke bret hart never sell and was more over than hulk hogan are you crazy are you on drugs?
Im sorry but id rather watch paint dry than listen to bret hart doing promo
I don't know who's more annoying, Bruce Prichard of Vince Russo.
The guy didn't draw. No matter how talented he was. it doesn't matter. YOU HAVE TO BE A DRAW.
You fool, Bret carried the WWF through the mid 90's. Wrestling was going through a downside at the time.
@@kb9969 Before calling someone a fool, you should prob actually go look at numbers instead of letting nostalgia blur your vision.
I'll at least give you he was always a consistent draw in Canada. But the only time where he really was the hottest draw in the world was in 97 when he got screwed and went to WCW and bombed (partially not his fault).
The Duke Of Aaron Savage(2) and Flair didn't draw as well as expected though. It didn't matter who was champ. The numbers were bummer regardless. Austin wasn't a draw in 1997 really. I say 97 as PWI ranked him as the biggest WWF wrestler of 1997. And look where 97 was. It was till Iron Mike Tyson they had their product revival in 98.
@@knowyourroleboulevard7119 this is true. I look at the boom periods. Bret had nothing to do w it BUT he was also horrendously booked during that time too so I can't completely blame him.
I’m a huge Bret fan but I’ll tell you the more I hear about him the more I hear “poor me”. Maybe I’m wrong I don’t know
Man Conrad I think Bret owes you some cash from all the times you've plugged his book! Haha
Bret Heart complaining about something? That never happens! oh wait...
Bret is known to lie & embellish
Bret Hart was Lame
Bret was such a mark for himself.
Why shouldn’t he be?
i loved bret and he was a perfect IC champ but never was a legit world strap holder
eric dawson What's "legit" about any wrestling title run?
a guy who gets the fans excited and also knows it isnt a real title n will drop the title wen asked
he dropped the strap faster than owen fell
Well, Bret dropped the title when asked to Yoko, Bob Backlund, Shawn Michaels and Sid... how is he not legit? Bret carried the company as world champ, and was a midcarder as IC champ, so your point is kind of pointless