Thank you. It's like wtf why don't they have the steroids issue in the title/description of the video. And hearing about that steroids scandal just pisses me off especially since it's none of the damn Feds business what anybody puts in their body.
I clicked this topic mainly because I wanted to see how many people in the comments believe the ring boy scandal is true simply because it's more controversial and salacious than the prospect of nothing actually happened. As usual it's around 100%. Sheep, I swear.
Rome Williams This show lost my respect after this episode. Just because they are friends they are protecting him! Just because a deal was made and charges were dropped that doesnt mean anything.
Ruprecht The Monkey Boy I'm guessing you have studied this lawsuit and are an expert on the case? Patterson was never indicted or charged with anything yet you want to be his judge and jury. Ridiculous
G fish I get it, Wrestling over everything. Your worse than those shit Penn State fans. People dont just collectively make pedo shit up on a man. Watch Vince on Donohue he had completely washed his hands of Pat, then once the people are paid off its welcome back Pat!
Ruprecht The Monkey Boy My opinion has nothing to do with it being wrestling. You know nothing more than I do about any evidence and have already convicted him. For the most part I agree that most people dont make this shit up but there are cases where they do. I remember a case involving a day care that was accused by multiple kids then later found out the police had gotten the kids to say things a certain way thru the way they were questioned. Anyway I dont know if he was guilty or not. Bottom line everyone deserves the right to a defense. Innocent till proven guilty. Trial thru the media is a dangerous slope in an already broken justice system. Good day sir
@feelings Are Not Arguments Like most victims, Piper didn't want the shame of admitting he was buggered, or that he fucked his way to fame. He never outright said that he had sex with Patterson, or that Patterson forced or pressured him. And TBH, that could have put hurt Piper more than Patterson, who could just "yeah WE GOT IT ON, but he LIKED it!"
@@SovereignStatesman Piper made it incredibly and absolutely undeniably clear on his podcast because people we're seeming to misunderstand the interview with Sean Oliver nothing happened between him and Pat Patterson whatsoever.
Comrad: Listen, I really don't want to talk about... Translation I'd like a cheese burger with extra fries, and and a milkshake to wash it down. After, I want a cheese cake with all of the fillings. Then I want to BBQ some chicken wings with J.R and not be judged by my actions. Comrad: There's so much meat on the bone... Peoples' response: Not much longer.
That particular episode was more than enough for me who has put much of my time into all things wwf/e to know that many people of high power positions in the company including Vince McMahon himself were at the very least aware of the on goings on behind the scenes etc.
Blaine Perry: If you could slap a reporter on national TV without jail-time, you could easily have private sex under threat under coercion of losing your every chance at wrestling-fame.
Bruce claims Patterson has always been open about being gay... But wasn't it until recently (past 2 years?) Patterson came out the closest on Table for 3 on wwe network..... There's a hole in ur story Pritchard
pue blo Actually, he publicly came out during Legend’s House, but I do believe all of his close friends knew he was gay. They were really proud of him for coming out in a public forum.
He must've been out earlier. Sherri mentioned it on her Hall of Fame. That was like 2006. And it was known before that. If it was a secret until recently it wasn't well kept.
Why are all you people on here complaining about Pat? Jimmy SNuka MURDERED his mistress on the road IN HIS HOTEL ROOM and vince got him off. But to be fair if Snuka would have gone down for murder then and there it would have been A HUGE hit to WWF at the time, maybe a killer blow. Me personally I'd like to see an episode about Snuka
Err.....i think raping of young boys is a little bit more of a scandal than some roided freak sadly killing someone, as sad as that is. Many kids were apparently abused by big names.
There's a series called behind the titantron that covers every scandal in wrestling including the Snuka incident. Check it out sometime it's pretty good
Jamie Dundee, in his drunken shoot interview, actually admitted his dad Bill, and Jerry Lawler were messing with a 14 year old girl. Lawler was even arrested for messing with a 13 year old. There's some sick f'ers in Wrestling!
Urban Development oh fuck off. People have no problem taking Twitter accusations at face value with no proof. But an alleged victim comes out and says they lied, there must be some nefarious forces at work behind closed doors. Foh
Is Bruce really still defending Vince over steroids. We all know damn well Vince was guilty more then one person said he wanted them to go on the gas and even had his doctors send them some up. If it was just one disgruntled employee then sure probably BS but this was people they have had back so they must have not lied.
Pat Patterson is creepy as hell! I'd be shocked if he has never attempted any hanky panky with anybody in that business. Listen to what Sid Vicious had to say about him. I loved the Legend's House series, but everytime Pat popped up on there, it got weird as shit!
Conrad really dropped the ball on this topic. I wish Conrad had asked about Murray Hodgson and several other guys who claimed they were fired because they turned down Pat Patterson's advancements. It wasn't just one isolated case, it was many people.
@@mrchopsticks3 Eric Bischoff has even admitted and the guys figured it out, any lawsuit $100,000 or less Turner would just settle out of court rather than bother fighting it
@@RobwLPOC Yeah go look at any court case against them tried in CT they magically always win...downsides to electing judges since WWE probably funds the hell out of their campaigns.
Paying someone off is a severe indication of guilt to me . Idk what happened , but if someone accused me of child molestation or something less or more serious , I’d fight it because it ain’t true . It’s definitely a little true that as a corporation , it could be smarter to just make it go away ....but I don’t think Vince’s ego would really let him roll over if he was sure nothing happened . If I rambled just now I apologize . I just don’t really know enough about all this stuff .
@@TheDenOfTimbsStudios He got targeted because he was gay during a time where gay people were still blamed for AIDS and every other thing. The Magic Johnson thing happened only a year before.
On his podcast? Paper made it extremely clear nothing happened with him and Pat. He said this to address the rumours after he did the you shoot interview
@@TL2354 Piper was choosing his words carefully he doesn't usually talk that slow honest Shawn Oliver you shoot interview. In order to try not to say anything that could be misunderstood. He then made it unbelievably clear on his podcast at nothing with him and Pat ever happen
actually if you look at phillips he had already been fired once for inappropriate or unusual attractions to children and then was rehired with the condition that phillips stay away from children and it was really odd that no one but pat was brought back to work at wwe
Pat Patterson was a different story still disgusting but he was more of a Harvey Weinstein using a position of power to pressure other adults into sexual situations which is only now looked at as the crime it is
Want to recognize Conrad for who I think did a great job navigating the listeners and Pritchard through a sensitive subject. Conrad didnt duck or have a " whatever," non- schalant type attitude about it. He informed the listeners of FACTS surrounding the case in an organized and almost chronogical order. They didnt debate the veracity or thruthfulness of the allegations, but what came from the allegations and what effect it had on the day to day business of the WWF /E. Example: Like it or not, believe them or not, the ring boy did file a lawsuit, a settlement was reached.... these are facts that are undisputed. Well done Conrad.
M Perkins The WWECW episode is what got them in trouble and the episode wasn’t released until days later and it was edited out. Think they talked about Benoit.
As long as Meltzer sticks to factual information and not his opinions, the WON is a pretty good source to use when trying to reconstruct the history of the business.
I have a friend who swears that pro wrestling is like a big gay closeted dudes club. He thinks that "smartening someone up" or "breaking them in" is code for letting them in on the homosexual shenanigans that go on behind the scenes in wrestling. I don't agree with my pals theory, but anyone would have to be a fool not to understand that homosexuality and wrestling have gone hand in hand since the start. Lots of guys with great bodies scantily clad and all oiled up and obsessed with their physical appearance/masculinity would seem kind of sus to folks who are inclined to have negative feelings towards gay folks. That's my take on my buddy's suspicions. He had a whole list of things he claimed were "proof" but I'm not gonna bother to list all that nonsense here. Bottom line is that I think he's incorrect about it being a big secret suckers club, although I'm fairly certain that there's at least SOMETHING going on here and there. But it's none of my business either way. As long as nobody is getting hurt, and nobody is diddling children (which I think never happened) I say who's business is it? If someone really did or is currently offering pushes for sex favors, that's abhorrent and needs to be addressed, but that's about the only "scandal" I could see being even remotely true.
He can sue legit for not getting a trial as a ring announcer if they had an agreement that included giving him a trial as a ring announcer as part of dropping his charges.
For all the shitting on Bruce here, some of you need to realize this stuff isn’t just the usual shit to gossip and shoot the breeze about, like old rasslers telling some road stories. There’s potentially liability issues here should they start throwing out some flippant accusations or jokes about ring boys being allegedly sexually assaulted. I think Conrad and Bruce are trying to cover this like adults, and not some smart marks on wrestlingforum.com. Anyway, they do go over the facts as known and unfortunately (or not) there wasn’t a lot of hard facts re:the abuse claims. There were a lot of innuendo and accusations. And the Cole story as laid out here *does* come off as questionable and a bit strange. As indicated, the lawsuit wasn’t about the abuse, it was about a settlement being breached because Cole didn’t get a tryout as an announcer. Was the original accusation a shakedown? Maybe, maybe not. Cole’a settlement mandated he got his same ring boy job back. Did WWF settle to keep a scandal out of the media regardless of its veracity? Perhaps. Perhaps not. I’d imagine if true, Patterson wasn’t doing the harassing publicly and Bruce may have had some plausible deniability. Do I think the accusations are true? I don’t know. Honestly there is no way I *could* know as I wasn’t there. All we have is an accusation and a certain notion about Patterson and WWF being sleazy.
Bruce would never say anything bad about the company even if he saw something..Rumor has it Vince did a kiss my ass club behind the scenes and Bruce pushed everyone out of the way to be at the front of the line..😂
“This silly stuff” and “he’s a friend of the show so we aren’t going there” WOW. Mel Phillips and Terry Garvin flat out molested children but to Conrad “this silly stuff” ? Damn man. You didn’t even try to be honest here
Where's the Brooklyn Brawler? Nicole bass said he was constantly sexually harassing her and trying to get her into bed... Didn't work out for well for her lawsuit since well, the Brooklyn Brawler is gay LMAO
About 10 years ago, somebody claiming to be Tom Cole called into The Opie and Anthony Show. The guy claiming to be Cole said that Pat Patterson never did anything to him and reiterated that it was Mel Philips and Terry Garvin. I suspect that the caller probably was telling the truth because the call itself wasn’t really funny and was matter-of-fact.
Idk why I hear an intent of disrespect when CT refers to a certain job with WWF as "ring boy". Idk why BP missed the op to tell CT to take it like he dishes it when the name Jerry was heard. And last, idk why CT doesn't seem like he shows respect now in conversations the same way he did with Flair and guests on that Wooo show. I didn't really notice it until I heard he's gonna get pushed down at that big podcast show. But, who doesn't know people with big $ that act just like that.
So the alleged victim never mentioned any names but the 3 in question resigned? c'mon that's a sure-fire tell-tale sign they were guilty the minute he said what happened.
From the sounds of everybody I can think of Stone Cold Mick everybody Pat and Louie were extremely loyal to each other I don't see Pat cheating on him trying to pick up some young guy. I know stone cold has said he's never met anybody who didn't like Louie
Piper said Pat “broke him in”. I’m sure you guys have seen that interview, right? I believe Piper. He didn’t say the words outright, but he cut himself off and looked very disturbed facially.
I did not know Phil. It was a lie. The fact that you guys are defending pedifiles speaks a lot about your characters. You are missing vince's ass. You are saying about 1% of the facts. It is obvious that Vince butters your bread.
I guess Bruce is still butt hurt that Jerry Jarrett would have been in charge if Vince had went to jail. He never fails to take a shot at Jerry when he gets a chance.
So a guy claims people at WWE sexually abused him but doesn't release the names publically. Three people resign from WWE and it turns out to be the three that the original guy is accusing? How did they know it was about them if they didn't do it? Doesn't make sense.
What about pipper? Nice he has never been charged doesn't mean he didn't do it. Being charged and not being charged is a matter of evidence not guilt.🤔😏😧
Paper said as clearly as could be on his podcast nothing happened between him and Pat because everybody seem to misunderstand what he said on the other interview
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Skip ahead to 8:55 to hear them talk about the "ring boy" scandal
Thank you. It's like wtf why don't they have the steroids issue in the title/description of the video. And hearing about that steroids scandal just pisses me off especially since it's none of the damn Feds business what anybody puts in their body.
Very much appreciated!
@@lookintothecrystalball4588 I'd say let all of whaited..
thanks :)
Thank you
If you can dodge this topic, you can dodge a ball. - Patches O'Houlihan
Bruce is absolutely the wrong person to ask about any "scandal" in the WWE. The man is petrified of speaking negative about Vince or the company
So true. This is a load of crap, and you can tell it by the way they are stepping around the true issue.
Really
I clicked this topic mainly because I wanted to see how many people in the comments believe the ring boy scandal is true simply because it's more controversial and salacious than the prospect of nothing actually happened. As usual it's around 100%. Sheep, I swear.
It's become very obvious at this point
@@PaleHorseShabuShabu wow you support pedos
What about the accusation Piper made against Pat Patterson on the shoot interview with Sean Oliver?
Rome Williams This show lost my respect after this episode. Just because they are friends they are protecting him! Just because a deal was made and charges were dropped that doesnt mean anything.
G fish Bullshit
Ruprecht The Monkey Boy I'm guessing you have studied this lawsuit and are an expert on the case? Patterson was never indicted or charged with anything yet you want to be his judge and jury. Ridiculous
G fish I get it, Wrestling over everything. Your worse than those shit Penn State fans. People dont just collectively make pedo shit up on a man. Watch Vince on Donohue he had completely washed his hands of Pat, then once the people are paid off its welcome back Pat!
Ruprecht The Monkey Boy
My opinion has nothing to do with it being wrestling. You know nothing more than I do about any evidence and have already convicted him. For the most part I agree that most people dont make this shit up but there are cases where they do. I remember a case involving a day care that was accused by multiple kids then later found out the police had gotten the kids to say things a certain way thru the way they were questioned. Anyway I dont know if he was guilty or not. Bottom line everyone deserves the right to a defense. Innocent till proven guilty. Trial thru the media is a dangerous slope in an already broken justice system. Good day sir
Is Vince wearing Linda's makeup in that photo?
LMAO 😂😂
LOLZ!!!.... i know looks like he's getting ready to "Pucker-Up" to someone!/something!..... LMFAO!!!!....
Nah, Stephanie's.
It takes some heavy paint to make-over THAT cow.
VINCE HAS HIS OWN MAKEUP GIRL CLAUDIA CLITT.
"Pat Patterson is a friend of the show..." Please...LOL...
Covering paedophilia is pretty low, friend of the show or not.
@@TheCho-k4m bnn.
was that not true?
thumbs down on this dodgefest
Didn't Roddy Piper make the same accusations against Patterson
@feelings Are Not Arguments Like most victims, Piper didn't want the shame of admitting he was buggered, or that he fucked his way to fame.
He never outright said that he had sex with Patterson, or that Patterson forced or pressured him.
And TBH, that could have put hurt Piper more than Patterson, who could just "yeah WE GOT IT ON, but he LIKED it!"
@@SovereignStatesman Piper made it incredibly and absolutely undeniably clear on his podcast because people we're seeming to misunderstand the interview with Sean Oliver nothing happened between him and Pat Patterson whatsoever.
@@RobwLPOC he never expressly said that, you just are hearing what you want to hear. He said he fucked up with Pat Patterson and started crying.
@@SovereignStatesman he absolutely and unequivocally on his podcast said nothing sexual ever happened between him Patterson
Comrad: Listen, I really don't want to talk about...
Translation
I'd like a cheese burger with extra fries, and and a milkshake to wash it down. After, I want a cheese cake with all of the fillings.
Then I want to BBQ some chicken wings with J.R and not be judged by my actions.
Comrad: There's so much meat on the bone...
Peoples' response: Not much longer.
I've seen the episode of Phil Donahue with Vince. Pat and by extension Vince are guilty.
That particular episode was more than enough for me who has put much of my time into all things wwf/e to know that many people of high power positions in the company including Vince McMahon himself were at the very least aware of the on goings on behind the scenes etc.
I feel there was some stuff going on. Now, to what extent?
We'll never know...
The episode proved nothing
This company got away with so much over the years. Swept under the rug. Continue with the business as if nothing ever happened.
White privilege and money that's why
Ironically there funding Trump 2020 campaign so you're correct
Yep
Blaine Perry: If you could slap a reporter on national TV without jail-time, you could easily have private sex under threat under coercion of losing your every chance at wrestling-fame.
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Bruce knows all about those ring boys!
Yea..... he do
So do you
How?
Lookin good goys… looking real good
9:34 neither was Michael Jackson but Paul Heyman made a slick comment on hot 97 radio when You got Pat under his nose for years 🤦🏾♂️
Alot of people down in memphis like young girls. I'm not naming Any "The King" Names
It was popular during the territory days AND WHEN THE KAT GOT FIRED
Hahaha "here kitty kitty *whistles*"
Damian Cross I wonder ....🍔 KING?
Jerry the perv Lawler his heart attack was caused by to much Viagra use.
At least it was great for his heel character in the Attitude Era
So many skeletons for wwe every empire must fall I hope McMahon gets his dues some day
WWE ain’t never gonna fall
Someday has come
@@tonyellis6514 I agree, his many years of preying on women has caught up to him.
@@tonyellis6514 and jackson daniel; yup, sure has. He’s a retired billionaire. That empire sure fell didn’t it? 😂
@@JoKiR90 an unhappy retired billionaire. Could be worse for him, but he had to leave the company he built and never, ever wanted to leave.
Bruce claims Patterson has always been open about being gay... But wasn't it until recently (past 2 years?) Patterson came out the closest on Table for 3 on wwe network..... There's a hole in ur story Pritchard
pue blo Actually, he publicly came out during Legend’s House, but I do believe all of his close friends knew he was gay. They were really proud of him for coming out in a public forum.
He must've been out earlier. Sherri mentioned it on her Hall of Fame. That was like 2006. And it was known before that. If it was a secret until recently it wasn't well kept.
Oliver L. You're right Legends House and I knew he was gay its been the rumor for decades im just clarifying that he OFFICIALLY came out recently
pue blo nope came out during legends house
Pat Patterson "Came out" the same amount of times Terry Funk retired.
no mention of Vince's supposed homosexuality?
SHELLBACKS CLUB 🐢 Vince is not Gay, his boyfriend is
Something about him and Warrior on a bear skin tug I mean rug. Ive heard that rumor and innuendo.
Him and shawn had a cock and balls contract
The way Vince cried like a bitch when Schaun was inducted in the HOF was very weird...
Big daddy Man lmao 😂 Scott Hall said Vince told him the time he had his first gay experience
Why are all you people on here complaining about Pat? Jimmy SNuka MURDERED his mistress on the road IN HIS HOTEL ROOM and vince got him off. But to be fair if Snuka would have gone down for murder then and there it would have been A HUGE hit to WWF at the time, maybe a killer blow. Me personally I'd like to see an episode about Snuka
Man that shit can’t compare to no rape
Err.....i think raping of young boys is a little bit more of a scandal than some roided freak sadly killing someone, as sad as that is. Many kids were apparently abused by big names.
There's a series called behind the titantron that covers every scandal in wrestling including the Snuka incident. Check it out sometime it's pretty good
I mean, I know about the Snuka case, WWE has a lot of skeletons.
jimmy snuka should rot in hell
16:37 rumors okay the guy commit suicide because he couldnt take it anymore oh pat didnt do nothing thats bs you just making excuses for pat he did
Pat was the Harvey Weinstien of wrestling.
TBH, Vince McMahon is the Weinstein of wrestling, Patterson is the Kevin Spacey
Jamie Dundee, in his drunken shoot interview, actually admitted his dad Bill, and Jerry Lawler were messing with a 14 year old girl. Lawler was even arrested for messing with a 13 year old. There's some sick f'ers in Wrestling!
The 13 year old admitted that she lied. ...
There didn't seem to be in overabundance of stuff like that going on in that territory for sure
Urban Development oh fuck off. People have no problem taking Twitter accusations at face value with no proof. But an alleged victim comes out and says they lied, there must be some nefarious forces at work behind closed doors. Foh
I can listen to this all day all episodes
Is Bruce really still defending Vince over steroids. We all know damn well Vince was guilty more then one person said he wanted them to go on the gas and even had his doctors send them some up. If it was just one disgruntled employee then sure probably BS but this was people they have had back so they must have not lied.
Conrad's voice makes me wanna pull a Van Gogh.
i like the way he says "guy" like "gah"
A southern accent is already hell enough, a monotone one is torture.
Pat Patterson is creepy as hell! I'd be shocked if he has never attempted any hanky panky with anybody in that business. Listen to what Sid Vicious had to say about him. I loved the Legend's House series, but everytime Pat popped up on there, it got weird as shit!
Conrad really dropped the ball on this topic. I wish Conrad had asked about Murray Hodgson and several other guys who claimed they were fired because they turned down Pat Patterson's advancements. It wasn't just one isolated case, it was many people.
Claimed is the key word
@@hunterwade9030 I think Murray Hodgson won a settlement, so we can probably say his is more than just a claim.
Funny how they were all absolutely the drizzling shits as wrestlers...
@@mrchopsticks3 Eric Bischoff has even admitted and the guys figured it out, any lawsuit $100,000 or less Turner would just settle out of court rather than bother fighting it
@@RobwLPOC Yeah go look at any court case against them tried in CT they magically always win...downsides to electing judges since WWE probably funds the hell out of their campaigns.
Mel Phillips used to play with my feet when I was a young teen.
That's nothing to brag about😝
You nasty 😜
Paying someone off is a severe indication of guilt to me . Idk what happened , but if someone accused me of child molestation or something less or more serious , I’d fight it because it ain’t true . It’s definitely a little true that as a corporation , it could be smarter to just make it go away ....but I don’t think Vince’s ego would really let him roll over if he was sure nothing happened . If I rambled just now I apologize . I just don’t really know enough about all this stuff .
If it's cheaper to settle than fight it, most companies will settle. For the record, at least Patterson I believe is 100% innocent.
You know you rambled... stop trying get sympathy
That’s a great way to go bankrupt, and end up on the streets.
@@AndreNDP, Pat was a good guy from what I understand from those who met him.
@@TheDenOfTimbsStudios He got targeted because he was gay during a time where gay people were still blamed for AIDS and every other thing. The Magic Johnson thing happened only a year before.
Bruce “ toll the company line “ Prichard 😂
The phrase is "tow the company line."
It's actually towe the line
Piper talked about it. The first female ref cried while talking about Vince forcing himself on her. To act like this shit is not true is disgusting
When did it happen?
On his podcast? Paper made it extremely clear nothing happened with him and Pat. He said this to address the rumours after he did the you shoot interview
@@TL2354 Piper was choosing his words carefully he doesn't usually talk that slow honest Shawn Oliver you shoot interview. In order to try not to say anything that could be misunderstood. He then made it unbelievably clear on his podcast at nothing with him and Pat ever happen
actually if you look at phillips he had already been fired once for inappropriate or unusual attractions to children and then was rehired with the condition that phillips stay away from children and it was really odd that no one but pat was brought back to work at wwe
Pat Patterson was a different story still disgusting but he was more of a Harvey Weinstein using a position of power to pressure other adults into sexual situations which is only now looked at as the crime it is
Patterson and Brisco for sure DP'd that Cole kid in the showers at Titan towers, and you can take that to the bank.
You were there and you didn’t call the cops? You need a fuckin beating for letting it happen
Pat Patterson isn't a name it was an instruction for the curtain jerkers who wanted to move up the card alongside Tug Patterson and Rub Patterson.
Can't wait for this topic on Dark Side of the Ring
Pat stepped away because he was guilty as hell.
Want to recognize Conrad for who I think did a great job navigating the listeners and Pritchard through a sensitive subject. Conrad didnt duck or have a " whatever," non- schalant type attitude about it. He informed the listeners of FACTS surrounding the case in an organized and almost chronogical order. They didnt debate the veracity or thruthfulness of the allegations, but what came from the allegations and what effect it had on the day to day business of the WWF /E. Example: Like it or not, believe them or not, the ring boy did file a lawsuit, a settlement was reached.... these are facts that are undisputed. Well done Conrad.
It was rumored back in the 80’s that Brutus Beefcake used to service Vince
@MemphoWrasslin1 you got off on that, huh?
Doesnt Bruce have his show on the network?? For sure this dint air on the netowrk?
M Perkins
The WWECW episode is what got them in trouble and the episode wasn’t released until days later and it was edited out.
Think they talked about Benoit.
Does Conrad do anything besides quote Metzler?
Seems not.
Ryan James he uses its as a point of reference. Meltzers newsletters go back decades so it makes it easier.
As long as Meltzer sticks to factual information and not his opinions, the WON is a pretty good source to use when trying to reconstruct the history of the business.
I have a friend who swears that pro wrestling is like a big gay closeted dudes club. He thinks that "smartening someone up" or "breaking them in" is code for letting them in on the homosexual shenanigans that go on behind the scenes in wrestling.
I don't agree with my pals theory, but anyone would have to be a fool not to understand that homosexuality and wrestling have gone hand in hand since the start.
Lots of guys with great bodies scantily clad and all oiled up and obsessed with their physical appearance/masculinity would seem kind of sus to folks who are inclined to have negative feelings towards gay folks. That's my take on my buddy's suspicions. He had a whole list of things he claimed were "proof" but I'm not gonna bother to list all that nonsense here. Bottom line is that I think he's incorrect about it being a big secret suckers club, although I'm fairly certain that there's at least SOMETHING going on here and there.
But it's none of my business either way. As long as nobody is getting hurt, and nobody is diddling children (which I think never happened) I say who's business is it? If someone really did or is currently offering pushes for sex favors, that's abhorrent and needs to be addressed, but that's about the only "scandal" I could see being even remotely true.
Why did Conrad not wanna talk about Jerry Jarrett??
Bruce don't want to burn that bridge he thinks Vince McMahon might call him back and give him another job in WWE.
well he did lol
Hate how these podcasts just cut out suddenly
He can sue legit for not getting a trial as a ring announcer if they had an agreement that included giving him a trial as a ring announcer as part of dropping his charges.
He mistakenly said Tom Cole instead of Michael Cole.
greedo_11 no. He ment tom Cole. Those are two different guys
The picture under the textbook definition of the word STOOGE is Bruce Prichard
Yall lost respect for disrespecting the victims
For all the shitting on Bruce here, some of you need to realize this stuff isn’t just the usual shit to gossip and shoot the breeze about, like old rasslers telling some road stories. There’s potentially liability issues here should they start throwing out some flippant accusations or jokes about ring boys being allegedly sexually assaulted. I think Conrad and Bruce are trying to cover this like adults, and not some smart marks on wrestlingforum.com.
Anyway, they do go over the facts as known and unfortunately (or not) there wasn’t a lot of hard facts re:the abuse claims. There were a lot of innuendo and accusations. And the Cole story as laid out here *does* come off as questionable and a bit strange. As indicated, the lawsuit wasn’t about the abuse, it was about a settlement being breached because Cole didn’t get a tryout as an announcer. Was the original accusation a shakedown? Maybe, maybe not. Cole’a settlement mandated he got his same ring boy job back. Did WWF settle to keep a scandal out of the media regardless of its veracity? Perhaps. Perhaps not.
I’d imagine if true, Patterson wasn’t doing the harassing publicly and Bruce may have had some plausible deniability.
Do I think the accusations are true? I don’t know. Honestly there is no way I *could* know as I wasn’t there. All we have is an accusation and a certain notion about Patterson and WWF being sleazy.
Great conversation in this one about all that is different from what went on wrestling "back in the day" to today.
**Pat's alleged shenanigans from the KING of the RING episode*"
Oh come on!
Bruce would never say anything bad about the company even if he saw something..Rumor has it Vince did a kiss my ass club behind the scenes and Bruce pushed everyone out of the way to be at the front of the line..😂
It's sad that it took 4 years for Jake roberts and Jim Ross to reveal the truth.
Pritchard lying his butt off, Pritchard was there during that Era.
“This silly stuff” and “he’s a friend of the show so we aren’t going there” WOW. Mel Phillips and Terry Garvin flat out molested children but to Conrad “this silly stuff” ? Damn man. You didn’t even try to be honest here
What a cowardly approach to this subject.
11:56-Here’s some more silliness.
Love the show been with it from the start, but my wife just walked outta the room and screamed down the hall " rumor and fn innuendo!"
Ok and?
Ring boys are nice and young, supple and easier to manipulate. Ain't that right, Patterson?
WWE is BETTER than New Japan! Fuck off. Patterson is a legend!
NJPW RULES!!!!!!
Patterson is a legend but the FACT remains that right now NJPW. Is better!!!!
Slide it right in the butthole pal.....goddamn
This was some of my favorite time in wrestling
I'm guessing you were not a ring boy, then.
@@Jayce_Alexander no. He was the ring boy. And he loved it
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Brother Love you dirty boy! Wink.Wink.
You're too much of a true believer, Conrad. There's nothing silly about any of this.
Just because you can't brag has nothing to do with hooking up w teenage boys.
More than likely, there were several disturbing things that took place
I wonder where Tom Cole, Mel Phillips, and Rita Chatterton are now and what are they doing now!!!
Im fine. Thanks!!
@Nich Hodge and Mel changed his skin and name to Tom he's on smackdown lol
Where's the Brooklyn Brawler? Nicole bass said he was constantly sexually harassing her and trying to get her into bed... Didn't work out for well for her lawsuit since well, the Brooklyn Brawler is gay LMAO
bruce prichard thought tl hopper and the goon were great characters too
And defends the red rooster gimmick like his life depends on it
and the law suit on mushnik was settled out of court with no one exchanging monies and neither the post nor mushnik admitting error
mushnick was right almost all the time though.
Feeling like a white wash job. Poor pat in the locker room 😮
No words about terry hands of stone .Cherry pick the real story.
Do one on the low attendance of the wwe now.
About 10 years ago, somebody claiming to be Tom Cole called into The Opie and Anthony Show. The guy claiming to be Cole said that Pat Patterson never did anything to him and reiterated that it was Mel Philips and Terry Garvin. I suspect that the caller probably was telling the truth because the call itself wasn’t really funny and was matter-of-fact.
Man I miss Patrice
Idk why I hear an intent of disrespect when CT refers to a certain job with WWF as "ring boy". Idk why BP missed the op to tell CT to take it like he dishes it when the name Jerry was heard. And last, idk why CT doesn't seem like he shows respect now in conversations the same way he did with Flair and guests on that Wooo show. I didn't really notice it until I heard he's gonna get pushed down at that big podcast show. But, who doesn't know people with big $ that act just like that.
So the alleged victim never mentioned any names but the 3 in question resigned? c'mon that's a sure-fire tell-tale sign they were guilty the minute he said what happened.
How?
Linda's "title" Before president was P.O. & V.B.M. - Part Owner & Vince's Baby's mama!
RIP pat
They kept the third brother, Michael, quiet by offering him a commentator role......
8:20 you're welcome
Grizzly Smith would have definitely hit the dislike button on this video..
If they can continue a show right after Owen tragically falls to his death! Then Steroids and sex scandals is nothing to them.
Lol; why does Conrad not want to talk about Jerry Jarrett?
Well...you know.
The girl with Art Barr wasn't underage. She was 19.
From the sounds of everybody I can think of Stone Cold Mick everybody Pat and Louie were extremely loyal to each other I don't see Pat cheating on him trying to pick up some young guy. I know stone cold has said he's never met anybody who didn't like Louie
@eleodoro de la fuente yep you're right, he's not on record and audio files
I'm glad Conrad finally admitted to being a fruit
Piper said Pat “broke him in”. I’m sure you guys have seen that interview, right? I believe Piper. He didn’t say the words outright, but he cut himself off and looked very disturbed facially.
Piper made it extremely clear on his podcast because everybody seems to have misunderstood that. Zero nada nothing happened
Well, he was wearing a kilt.
We all know Patterson is GUILTY
That wasn't much of a shot. I feel a little cheated by the title of this video. 18 minutes and very little talk at all of the ring boy "scandal."
hey bruce, what does Vince's colon smell like?
Prichard using homophobia as an excuse is utterly ridiculous. And Conrads acceptance of it is just as absured.
I'm sorry, this shoot was a total cover up. If Bruce & Conrad weren't Pat Patterson friends. This would be a real & interesting shoot .
Bruce try to reveal as much information about whatever he is asked without really saying anything aka public defender!...
Everybody does realize just because accusations are made doesn't make it true. Accusations are not evidence.
I did not know Phil. It was a lie. The fact that you guys are defending pedifiles speaks a lot about your characters. You are missing vince's ass. You are saying about 1% of the facts. It is obvious that Vince butters your bread.
I hope Darkside Of The Ring will do something on this unless I haven’t seen it and it is out there!! Dig up the real deal!
Looking good boys… looking real good
Love brucy me like lol could listen to this man all day long lol
What about BROOKS???? Or are we PRETENDING we don't know about that too???
I guess Bruce is still butt hurt that Jerry Jarrett would have been in charge if Vince had went to jail. He never fails to take a shot at Jerry when he gets a chance.
Let's have full episode on phil mushnick!! He is still bashing the wwe to this day lol Lota meat on the bone there Ole Conrad
So a guy claims people at WWE sexually abused him but doesn't release the names publically. Three people resign from WWE and it turns out to be the three that the original guy is accusing? How did they know it was about them if they didn't do it? Doesn't make sense.
Conrad How about you Do A Wrestling Business Bruce Can Talk About anything he wanna talk about You Ain't No Better Than Meltzer Wade Keller or Bryant
What about pipper? Nice he has never been charged doesn't mean he didn't do it. Being charged and not being charged is a matter of evidence not guilt.🤔😏😧
Paper said as clearly as could be on his podcast nothing happened between him and Pat because everybody seem to misunderstand what he said on the other interview