Axel Janes I'm very aware of all that. People change their mind all the time. But what I said was true nonetheless at that particular time. Vince was pretty known for doing business with JUST ABOUT ANYONE if he knew he could make a buck.
Jason M. Yeah, it must be Terry Bollea lying, because Hulk Hogan doesn’t lie, brother. He also doesn’t bury younger talent and exercise creative control relentlessly. That was also Terry Bollea and not the Hulk, brother.
After that Gawker lawsuit, he's got a life time of money in the real bank contract. I can't believe a jury awarded an already multimillionaire that kind of money,
@@mattm7798 already a multimillionaire? Lol dude linda cleaned him out pretty good, not to mention he was paying for Brooke's music career and her producer was a guy named $tack$. I'm sure $tack$ works cheap. Thankfully for Hootie he and Bubba worked gawker into a shoot!
*The correct Wrestlemania finish was:* 1. Bret beats Yoko. 2. Fuji throws salt in Bret's eyes after the match. 3. Yoko and Fuji beat up Bret after the match. 4. Hogan runs in to make the save. 5. Hogan puts the title on Bret and pops the crowd. 6. Bret and Hogan shake hands, Bret's music hits, and that's how WM ends. (Hogan puts Bret over without a match.)
David Vaughn no but he takes the art of it serious and the job they work to get the title cause main eventer is when you get more money 💰 and mAke a name for yourself
True but it was a great moment for the Undertaker since that match helped Undertaker's character more. I have to thank Jake The Snake Roberts for that. It was different type of match. A more slow pace mythological one.
The Programs going into WM 8 were actually decent, Flair/Savage had a great program and decent match, Piper and Hart had a GREAT match with a *very* limited program. And the Hogan/Sid program was actually pretty good- and believe it or not, the Warrior run-in SAVED that match.
@jamesdutchman8862 in fairness i think most the time he just brings up Meltzer bc back then it was true that most of the wrestlers talked to him and what he wrote in the observer does give you a good ballpark idea as to what was going on....Now that doesnt mean that was 30 years ago and now Meltzer is totally full of himself and become a self-mark so not defending Meltzer or Conrad totally at all just the way i see it
@@lillagahnavich7700 I see what you mean. I was talking about the star rating of every match mentioned on the show as if Dave Meltzer determined whether or not a match was good.
We Worldwide! I don’t think they were friends but they at least respected each other and never got into one another’s business. The real problem child was Shawn, letting stardom go to his head and being a prick to everyone else in order to stay ahead while Bret was being courteous on his rise.
8 or 9 is the worst? Putting 8 in the same conversation is insulting! Savage / Flair and Bret / Piper were both damn good matches that blew 9 away alone.
8 is not one of the best but yes it had the great match with Bret & Roddy, I remember watching that live & loving it! Bret became my favorite Wrestler during that match & I became a Bret fan from then on. I couldn’t seem to forgive Hogan after he pulled Sid out of the ring at Royal Rumble. I think they were going to try & turn Hogan heel but quickly changed their minds after Royal Rumble. The Flair VS Savage match was good but I hated his outfit lol. (Savage) I was excited for Hogan VS Sid & got all jumpy when Warrior came out. So it shouldn’t be compared to IX because it was without a doubt leaps & bounds better than IX. IX pissed me off again with what happened with Hogan! I was happy to see him “avenge Bret” but was mad Bret didn’t win. In fact I would get so mad that Yoko kept winning & Bret wasn’t ever able to win the title. But that’s what made it so sweet when Bret finally got the title back.
FLORIDA GATOR IDK if I’d say it was great but it was a lot better than IX. At the time I freaked when Warrior came out to help Hogan but to watch it now the show doesn’t have much more than the Bret/Piper match and the Savage/Flair match. As a kid I loved the whole show especially the Bret/Piper match. But watching it now it is really weak. But IX is by far THE WORST!
Both Savage and Hogan should've put Bret over, and Flair too, (on ppv not some lame house show.). The credentials of those 3 big wins alone would've given him the rub his character then needed. Without any torch being passed, he had to prove his own worth despite it. And he did just that.
@@Buckdawg too right, I've always said had Bret beaten Hogan then after Hogan hands him the belt, big handshake, crowd goes wild, Bret's profile would've rocketed. Piper helped him get up the ladder with his passing of the torch at IC level yet Hogan wouldn't.
I was thinking this too. As world champion Bret never got a PPV win over Hogan, Flair, or Savage, even though all of them were in the company. His record also included losing to Yoko who got beat in 30 seconds by Hogan, getting pinned clean by Owen Hart at Wrestlemania X. Just another part of their f-ing terrible booking from that period.
Damn right. Heenan was at it's great. How was 8 the worst? Piper/Bret and Savage/Flair were great. Then you had the spectacle of Hogan/Sid and Jake/Taker fued. Mania 11, 9, 27 were bad but nothing is worst than Mania 32. Horrible show.
@@borednow5838 Mania IX had a solid IC Title opener.....the ending just sucked cause of Michaels not wanting to lose......but it was a great match. Had the rare Heenan, Savage and JR crew too on that show, one of two they did that year together, King of the Ring being the other. So there were some good elements that way.
Hulk Hogan was not on tour after Wrestlemania but after King of the Ring. The Hulkamania Tour was in July/August - I was in the audience in Munich. Already after losing the belt at King of the Ring. He won the matches against Yokozuna on the tour by DQ or count out (not sure). But Yoko kept the belt. And those matches in Europe were Hogans last matches for WWF.
you guys are all wrong... Check Bruce's book. Are we going to trust rumor and innuendo from random internet nobodies or Bruce fk'n prichard? Nice Bob Costas style "Gotcha Pal!" in a coordinated effort from you lot.
I still think this worked out better for Bret. Yoko was on the rise and we needed a dominant heel to be champ for a while. At the time, no heel had ever left WM as champion, so having Hogan go over to end the show on some nonsense was fine since Hogan jobbed out to Yoko at KOTR, further building Yoko's clout by ending Hulkamania. Bret, on the other hand, had to rebuild and earn his title shot over the next year. His KOTR performance was top notch and he had the three best matches on the card (maybe of the year). He wrestled two matches at SummerSlam against two different styles, and started his Owen feud at Survivor Series, wrestled a tag match at RR and won the RR, jobbed to Owen in the best opening match at WM en route to getting his rematch at WM X against the unstoppable Yokozuna (who had taken out Hogan, an undefeated Tatanka, Undertaker, Lex Luger, and anyone else in his way). Bret going through all of this put him over way more than Hogan passing him the torch could have, and besides, Hogan didn't owe Bret anything. If you need Hogan to put you over, you're just admitting that Hogan is a bigger star.
I was 5 ... And unfortunately the first mania I remember watching live is 9. I obviously @ 5 still thought it was real. Bret became the man to me. As a kid you are rooting for all the baby face characters Hogan was still one of my favorites but I was 5. Bret was the guy to me. I grew up knowing Bret more than Hogan being on TV. So when Hogan closed with ending it was like this feeling I’d now describe like... You started the night at the bar in a really good conversation with a 9. But at 2 am you leave with a 5...
I was born in 88. I had two guys growing up, Stone Cold Steve Austin and Sting. Those two were my guys when it came to wrestling. Steve Austin will always be the GOAT imo
Hulk did go overseas in July and August for a Euro Tour to face Yokozuna (as champ) in Vienna, Dortmund, Offenbach, Munich (sell out), Berlin, Edinburgh, London, Toulon, and Sheffield (his final WWF match).
Ok, I didn't listen until end, to be honest. To make it complete: He won in an awful house show bout over Yokuzuna by count out. Even as a kid I was disappointed by the match. Ten minutes of kicking, punching, rest holds, choking and hulking up. ;-)
And another thing Bruce! You think WRESTLEMANIA 8 was 1 of the worst!! Are you fucking kidding me?? 3 AMAZING matches that say you are wrong. TAKER VS THE SNAKE! HOTROD VS HITMAN AND FLAIR VS SAVAGE!!! OH & even though SID VS HOGAN was the visuals CRAP as kid to see the skinny ass not so ULTIMATE WARRIOR run in & return was awesome!!
@@MaynardOwns Because it would have made no sense for the champion to be beaten and defeated in the middle of the ring just before going into a one hour iron man match at the biggest event of the year to pass the torch the the next top guy just so Undertaker & Diesel's non main event, non title match would have "looked better"...the whole "Bret refused to take my finisher" bullshit is just Nash being a mark for himself...and just for the record, not one other person has come out and backed that story up
@@acidmack1041 yeah I agree. I think I left a detailed comment somewhere trying to workout the pros and cons of both sides of this alleged refusal to take powerbomb. Can't remember what my thoughts were exact but I do know came to the conclusion that Bret did the right thing not taking the bump.
I don’t care what anyone says. I watched the event live. Anyone who says anything bad about Hulk because of the finish clearly wasn’t watching wrestling in 1993. The crowd erupted and it was one of the biggest pops in wrestling history. Everyone likes to put their spin on it, but at the time, I can’t remember ever being so excited about a finish to a match. Never before had the championship changed hands two times in one night, and it certainly never happened at WrestleMania.
True. though I think even that early I had become a big Bret fan. I think if he had left with the belt I would have been happy. But at the time I did cheer when Hogan won the belt. Different now of course.
I love this bit of the Conrad-Bruce argument Bruce: "do you have my book there"? Conrad: "Your book says Hogan wasn't there" Bruce: "I don't believe you" Conrad: "HAHAHA"!
The original plan I always heard was Bret was going to beat Yoko where the match would be in the middle of WM and Hogan and Beefcake were going to win the tag titles which would be the last match.
Even tho the guy who holds the World Title is a work, I can feel Bret on feeling some type of way about this situation. Was a terrible finish for a WrestleMania main event. If they wanted to hot shot the title to Hogan, they certainly could have done it a much better way. My two cents.
This is purely speculative on my part, but it's entirely possible that they are both right. Hogan DID work on the European tour in the summer of 1993, after he had dropped the belt to Yoko. When did those tickets go on sale? Probably before Hogan had lost the title. So, if the idea was to help sell tickets by making Hogan WWF Champion, even though he would end up dropping the belt before the tour actually took place, that is entirely plausible.
You know I can go the rest of my days rewatching wrestling from 92 to 99 and be content with that. This wrestling today I just can’t do it. I’ve tried. It’s too much forcing myself.
James Richardson exactly plus Conrad knows the deal he brings up the b.s. rumor & innuendo so it can be finally put to rest. Not because he's got the wrong info. Am I right? Or am I right? We're right. Right?.
Yup I think the build up was in several wrestling magazines. Just googled some images and found them. So that proves that was the original idea and then Hogan backed out of it.
I went to a show in England in 1993. Main event was Yokozuna v Hulk Hogan. However the champion was Yokozuna. So the tour he's talking about must have been after King of The Ring.
Is it entirely possible that they put the title on Hogan for the European tour and then Hogan pulled something to get out of going? Hogans a pretty busy guy and he also seems like the type that won't do something if it doesn't benefit him in some way. Overall, it seems a little silly to argue with someone who was actually there because some random internet site says something differently. WWE was a private company back in '93, things like house shows weren't shared, so unless someone who worked for WWE in '93 is writing that site it's pretty fair to assume that there is probably a fair amount of information that's either skewed or missing.
Exactly. Because there's also Bret's account, that Summer Slam 93 was to be him against Hogan in a passing of the torch moment. They did promo shooting for that, allegedly a poster existed and WWF magazine reported on such a match (in a "who would win" scenario). If Bret got that right (or even the "back to Yoko on KotR" wasn't the plan from the beginning), it would have made sense to put the belt on Hogan for the July tour. He would have been champion. then things were changed before KotR, putting Bret against Lawler and Hogan moving out.
Bruce still kayfabes. Very often. Sometimes its obvious and sometimes its not. Pretty much any time he goes into "I was there, they weren't", he's in a corner.
conrad comes off like he was trying to catch bruce in something. its obv that was the idea and vince changed his mind so he lost the title earlier than he was expected. oh whats the big conspiracy?? so bruce remembers the meetings about Hogan and the European tours and then vince changed his mind. so its bruce fault? what is he trying to catch bruce in?
Yeah and remember, Bruce has to remember this shit from 26 years ago! If Bruce knew back in 1993 that one day he would be on something called a “podcast” being interviewed about all of this, I’m sure he would make sure to remember every detail lol
Jose Reyes The big conspiracy is that it looks like they made up any old excuse just to put the title on hogan as fast as possible. That wouldnt have sat well with other wrestlers.
A lot of people, myself included, just want the truth. "Hulk thought Bret was too small BROTHER and BROTHER he wouldn't give Bret Hart a chance, BROTHER." That's the truth. I'm sure Vince had his head up his ass too, but ultimately everyone knows Hulk had a hand in fucking Bret (and Yoko, really). We just want the truth, but Bret Hart must have shit in Bruce's toilet, and Shawn Michaels must have unclogged it, because the fat fuck seems to hate Bret for whatever reason and just won't tell the truth.
That submission match was a terrible idea....not Bret's fault (I'm sure you already knew that, but just thought I'd throw that out there). Also, Bret's "match" with McMahon at WM 26 was embarrassing and never should have happened...but I don't think that match should count towards his career. Other than those, Bret was involved in some of the most historic matches and is my favorite of all time.
Agree completely... Bret's two worst matches were WrestleMania 11 (with Roddy Piper's constant "Whaddy say?") and WrestleMania 26 (the match of 10,000 chair shots).
It was Bret's worst full WM match (not counting vs. Bolsheviks and vs. Vince) but even though it wasn't a bad match. Just way below his usual standard. I'd rather rewatching this submission match than the final matches of WM 33 or 34.
I thought Wrestlemania 9 was nowhere near the worst, and quiet liked it. The idea that it's the worst, is generally the opinion of the Meltzer marks and Indy marks. The ending as a one off, at that time was great, because you thought Hogan, who was still most people's favourite wrestler was leaving/having very little to do with the WWE, so it was an awesome moment to see him win the title back. The outdoor Arena in Las Vegas I thought was also cool. The only negative I'd have about the event was, a few too many matches ended in DQs. The last few Wrestlemania's have easily been worse than Wrestlemania 9. They've been painfully long to watch at 5+ hours, and most wrestlers we don't really care about, and the main events with Roman Reigns (whom I don't mind) as a face been boo'd by the crowd, versing another heel, has meant the mainevent's of the last few years have been completely flat and downers.
I love how so many people are on here saying "Bruce was wrong and got exposed." Well, Hogan was on that tour and Conrad has since admitted being wrong. Bruce had some of the details wrong but Hogan did wrestle Yoko on a house show on that tour. I'm pretty sure Bruce would know since he worked for the company during that time. I like both of these guys and they do a tremendous job, I just don't get why so many people are saying Bruce is wrong on this when there is proof that Hogan was on that tour. Just takes a little research
I went to a European tour, and it was in July of 93! In the UK at Earl’s Court, so I can confirm he was there on that one! It was after he dropped the title to Yoko though, so perhaps is the confusion here!? Lol it was! Never the less I believe this was one of his last WWF appearances.
It's hard to believe that there was no intention or support for the Hogan VS Hart match when the official WWF Magazine ran a big (kayfabe) feature after 'Mania hyping that very match. There were even interviews. I remember a dramatic silhoutte shot of a posing Hogan and the quote "but what about the Hulkster's heart?" to which Bret responded with something along the line of "what's my name?". Read it as a kid, was totally excited for it, never happened. But we got Thunder in Paradise, so....
@@bdot187um- That's what I figured... Thank you for the memory refresher. I'll have to go back onto TH-cam & find that whole episode, now because I haven't listened to it in a long time.
alex kanyima Did you not listen to this video clip? Conrad even confirms for Bruce that Hogan wasn’t on the tour. Now, Vince’s reasoning could’ve still had to do with the tour, and thinking Hogan would be on it, but the fact remains that Hogan was NOT on that tour.
For some reason, the guy who knows he was screwed by Vince has a hard time believing Hogan’s tears and implications that Vince was trying to ruin what- by Bret’s own admission- was an excellent reputation amongst the boys. Baffling.
I bought a chocolate bar because I wanted to eat it but when I got home I forgot about it and didn't eat it. But why did you buy it? To eat it. But you didn't eat it. I know, but that was the reason.
When Bruce says that either Wrestlemania 8 or 9 is the worst Wrestlemania, I wonder if he is basing that off the main event only. I can see 8 (with the Hogan-Sid DQ finish) and 9 (with the short Bret-Yoko and shorter Hogan-Yoko) being the worst main events... but Wrestlemania 8 had two really strong matches in Piper-Hart and Flair-Savage, as well as Undertaker-Roberts, which was Taker's first huge win as a babyface. Hulk was advertised for the European Tour to face Yoko, but then pulled out and Duggan wrestled Yoko instead.
Hogan didn't pull out, he wrestled on the July tour. Worst main event? That wasn't even true when you wrote it, before WM34's so-called main event stole the cake as WM 33's was way beneath Bret vs. Yoko.
I was at the April show in Sheffield and Hogan was not there. It was a televised event and Yokozuna didn't wrestle a scheduled match, but did an in ring interview with Mr Fuji and Bobby Heenan about losing the belt a week earlier. He ended up wrestling a dark match after the TV broadcast had ended against Jim Duggan, who had also main evented against Lex Luger.
Bret dropping the belt at WM9 did suck, but it was the best thing for him over the next year. They were able to make Yoko an absolute monster and he had amazing feuds King and Owen before finally slaying the monster.
Yeah but 1993 was a slow bad year for professional wrestling in the WWE I think this is where I started to look at WCW more when I was running it's syndicated shows on regular TV here in Detroit and some of it Saturday night's main event
Mania 9 should of been Bret beating Savage and Yoko beating Hogan. Also on the card should of been Steiner's vs Money Inc for tag titles, Undertaker vs Lex Luger and Razor Ramon vs Bam Bam Bigelow. They also should of saved FLair/Perfect loser leaves WWF match for Mania 9 and not wasted it a few weeks earlier on a low rated RAW. WORST BOOKED MANIA EVER!
alex kanyima He could have knocked him out like Luger did at summerslam 93.Or get him a chokehold close to top rope like Chris Benoit did with big show..Or do this have everyone in the ring gang up on Yoko and toss him out ahead of time and have savage and backlund be the last two and go at it
What probably happened was Hogan was supposed to go on the April Europe tour but a conflict came up with the Thunder in Paradise pilot filming, so they negotiated he stay on and do the July tour (but not appear on TV) after dropping the title.
"no Bret we're going in another direction" is Vince's way of saying "I think we should see other people"
Axel Janes I'm very aware of all that. People change their mind all the time. But what I said was true nonetheless at that particular time. Vince was pretty known for doing business with JUST ABOUT ANYONE if he knew he could make a buck.
It's not you, it's me .
#BretsFansWontStandForThis
@Apharmd Battler Hogan was the first 5 time champ when he won this title
John Lovelace truth
Wait. Hulk Hogan would lie? That's crazy! He's always been a straight up guy, brother.
Jason M. Yeah, it must be Terry Bollea lying, because Hulk Hogan doesn’t lie, brother. He also doesn’t bury younger talent and exercise creative control relentlessly. That was also Terry Bollea and not the Hulk, brother.
ha ha ha funny brotheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
🎶 If you hurt my friends than you hurt my pride 🎶
@Zedrik Allen Yes. Telling the truth doesn't work for him, brother.
Don't call me brother, brother!
Hogan has a lifetime money in the bank briefcase.
After that Gawker lawsuit, he's got a life time of money in the real bank contract. I can't believe a jury awarded an already multimillionaire that kind of money,
I'd mark so hard if Hogan came back and got Brock to job to him
@@mattm7798 already a multimillionaire? Lol dude linda cleaned him out pretty good, not to mention he was paying for Brooke's music career and her producer was a guy named $tack$. I'm sure $tack$ works cheap. Thankfully for Hootie he and Bubba worked gawker into a shoot!
That’s a great way to put it.
sinicalypse to say nothing of his son’s legal bills
*The correct Wrestlemania finish was:*
1. Bret beats Yoko.
2. Fuji throws salt in Bret's eyes after the match.
3. Yoko and Fuji beat up Bret after the match.
4. Hogan runs in to make the save.
5. Hogan puts the title on Bret and pops the crowd.
6. Bret and Hogan shake hands, Bret's music hits, and that's how WM ends.
(Hogan puts Bret over without a match.)
I like that ending much better.
Excellent
people would have still complained about Hogan hotdogging
That would suck ass..any event ending with bret with the title..is pure bullshit
7. They then have a match, at the same WM. Bret wins.
Credit to Bret he really treated the job like a profession.
Well it is
Wow this is so deep.
Why credit? People lose all the time.
He was a whiny bitch that fell for his own fake gimmick and got salty about losing a fake title
David Vaughn no but he takes the art of it serious and the job they work to get the title cause main eventer is when you get more money 💰 and mAke a name for yourself
8 a bad WrestleMania? Hart and Piper and Flair and Savage tore down the house. Two really good matches and a decent card.
Plus Taker vs Jake The Snake Roberts and HBK vs Tito Santana.
TheBepjr taker vs Jake is so full of Jake Roberts psychology, not a great match but it was definitely a different and well done match
True but it was a great moment for the Undertaker since that match helped Undertaker's character more. I have to thank Jake The Snake Roberts for that. It was different type of match. A more slow pace mythological one.
not crazy about macho and flair, he wrestled on one leg. just me.
The Programs going into WM 8 were actually decent, Flair/Savage had a great program and decent match, Piper and Hart had a GREAT match with a *very* limited program. And the Hogan/Sid program was actually pretty good- and believe it or not, the Warrior run-in SAVED that match.
Goddamn, Conrad antagonizing Bruce about the Hogan and the European tour never fails to make me laugh every time
Hulk probably agreed and then said... That's not gonna work for me brother...
I hate that mini Sasquatch. Seriously, he's annoying!
@@gbody2617 Not only is he annoying, he's got a hardon for Dave Meltzer as if all his opinions about every match need to be included.
@jamesdutchman8862 in fairness i think most the time he just brings up Meltzer bc back then it was true that most of the wrestlers talked to him and what he wrote in the observer does give you a good ballpark idea as to what was going on....Now that doesnt mean that was 30 years ago and now Meltzer is totally full of himself and become a self-mark so not defending Meltzer or Conrad totally at all just the way i see it
@@lillagahnavich7700 I see what you mean. I was talking about the star rating of every match mentioned on the show as if Dave Meltzer determined whether or not a match was good.
Even as a kid I hated that ending
Hearing that Shawn believed in Bret’s capability of being champion is a different time, for damn sure.
they were buddies back then
We Worldwide! I don’t think they were friends but they at least respected each other and never got into one another’s business. The real problem child was Shawn, letting stardom go to his head and being a prick to everyone else in order to stay ahead while Bret was being courteous on his rise.
He cashed in his “Hogan In The Bank” brother. If I was Bret I’d be a little cheesed too.
Fingerpoke of doom I
Ha! Had to laugh at Conrad mis-pronouncing BourneMOUTH, ha!
The Conrad-Bruce argument over Hogan's European tour is one of my fave arguments!
He also called Sheffield SHIFField. He's kinda dumb.
Don't believe Bruce at all. He's lied several times, remember that he's one of Vince's stooges.
8 or 9 is the worst? Putting 8 in the same conversation is insulting! Savage / Flair and Bret / Piper were both damn good matches that blew 9 away alone.
8 is one of the best Wrestlemanias. I think Bruce got mixed up there.
8 is not one of the best but yes it had the great match with Bret & Roddy, I remember watching that live & loving it! Bret became my favorite Wrestler during that match & I became a Bret fan from then on.
I couldn’t seem to forgive Hogan after he pulled Sid out of the ring at Royal Rumble. I think they were going to try & turn Hogan heel but quickly changed their minds after Royal Rumble.
The Flair VS Savage match was good but I hated his outfit lol. (Savage)
I was excited for Hogan VS Sid & got all jumpy when Warrior came out.
So it shouldn’t be compared to IX because it was without a doubt leaps & bounds better than IX.
IX pissed me off again with what happened with Hogan! I was happy to see him “avenge Bret” but was mad Bret didn’t win. In fact I would get so mad that Yoko kept winning & Bret wasn’t ever able to win the title.
But that’s what made it so sweet when Bret finally got the title back.
8 was a great WM. Especially when Ultimate Warrior came out. Wtf is wrong with Bruce?
FLORIDA GATOR IDK if I’d say it was great but it was a lot better than IX.
At the time I freaked when Warrior came out to help Hogan but to watch it now the show doesn’t have much more than the Bret/Piper match and the Savage/Flair match.
As a kid I loved the whole show especially the Bret/Piper match.
But watching it now it is really weak. But IX is by far THE WORST!
Bruce wasn’t there for 8, probably why he considers it one of the worst
Just imagine wrestlemania 9 with hart vs savage as the main event what a classic then Bret could of dropped to yoko at king of the ring
It would be
Both Savage and Hogan should've put Bret over, and Flair too, (on ppv not some lame house show.). The credentials of those 3 big wins alone would've given him the rub his character then needed.
Without any torch being passed, he had to prove his own worth despite it. And he did just that.
@@Buckdawg The guy threw the ball, ran and caught it himself since Hogan refused to do the classy thing and pass the torch on his way out.
@@Buckdawg too right, I've always said had Bret beaten Hogan then after Hogan hands him the belt, big handshake, crowd goes wild, Bret's profile would've rocketed. Piper helped him get up the ladder with his passing of the torch at IC level yet Hogan wouldn't.
I was thinking this too. As world champion Bret never got a PPV win over Hogan, Flair, or Savage, even though all of them were in the company. His record also included losing to Yoko who got beat in 30 seconds by Hogan, getting pinned clean by Owen Hart at Wrestlemania X. Just another part of their f-ing terrible booking from that period.
No way WM VIII is worse than IX, Bruce. VIII is worth watching just for Heenan's commentary alone.
Jason H yeah ur right there as there was some good matches at wm 8. wm 11 was probably the worst
Damn right. Heenan was at it's great. How was 8 the worst? Piper/Bret and Savage/Flair were great. Then you had the spectacle of Hogan/Sid and Jake/Taker fued. Mania 11, 9, 27 were bad but nothing is worst than Mania 32. Horrible show.
Yeah IC Title and WWF Title matches at Mania 8 are both very good. The opening match is solid too.
8 had some classic matches too
@@borednow5838 Mania IX had a solid IC Title opener.....the ending just sucked cause of Michaels not wanting to lose......but it was a great match. Had the rare Heenan, Savage and JR crew too on that show, one of two they did that year together, King of the Ring being the other. So there were some good elements that way.
Hulk Hogan was not on tour after Wrestlemania but after King of the Ring. The Hulkamania Tour was in July/August - I was in the audience in Munich. Already after losing the belt at King of the Ring. He won the matches against Yokozuna on the tour by DQ or count out (not sure). But Yoko kept the belt. And those matches in Europe were Hogans last matches for WWF.
Right. I remember Hogan cutting promos on Yoko vowing to get the belt back on tour.
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Yeah, I saw hogan v yokozuna in Edinburgh on Aug 3rd 1993.
Hootie was working a championship program, just like he worked that Bret-mark Bret!
you guys are all wrong... Check Bruce's book. Are we going to trust rumor and innuendo from random internet nobodies or Bruce fk'n prichard? Nice Bob Costas style "Gotcha Pal!" in a coordinated effort from you lot.
I still think this worked out better for Bret.
Yoko was on the rise and we needed a dominant heel to be champ for a while.
At the time, no heel had ever left WM as champion, so having Hogan go over to end the show on some nonsense was fine since Hogan jobbed out to Yoko at KOTR, further building Yoko's clout by ending Hulkamania.
Bret, on the other hand, had to rebuild and earn his title shot over the next year. His KOTR performance was top notch and he had the three best matches on the card (maybe of the year). He wrestled two matches at SummerSlam against two different styles, and started his Owen feud at Survivor Series, wrestled a tag match at RR and won the RR, jobbed to Owen in the best opening match at WM en route to getting his rematch at WM X against the unstoppable Yokozuna (who had taken out Hogan, an undefeated Tatanka, Undertaker, Lex Luger, and anyone else in his way).
Bret going through all of this put him over way more than Hogan passing him the torch could have, and besides, Hogan didn't owe Bret anything. If you need Hogan to put you over, you're just admitting that Hogan is a bigger star.
Wrestlemania IX would’ve been great if they booked:
(narcissist)Luger vs Hogan
Yokozuna vs Undertaker
Savage vs (c) Hart
Streak would have ended under these circumstances.
@C B1983 but how is it possible for letting Randy Savage winning the Royal Rumble by throwing Yoko of the top rope ?
@C B1983 and how would have work in that way ? Because Yokozuna debuted in October the same month that Bret is WWE champion
Ghost Of Tom Joad hindsight..
That's a really good idea for a fantasy card and plausible to boot. too bad somehow Savage was too old for Vince by IX yet Hogan wasn't
I'm new to this channel and am LOVING it. Their back and forths are super funny and the overall knowledge dropped is top tier.
I have heard a lot and this is the 2nd one i have heard of them going it it
I was 5 ... And unfortunately the first mania I remember watching live is 9. I obviously @ 5 still thought it was real. Bret became the man to me. As a kid you are rooting for all the baby face characters Hogan was still one of my favorites but I was 5. Bret was the guy to me. I grew up knowing Bret more than Hogan being on TV. So when Hogan closed with ending it was like this feeling I’d now describe like... You started the night at the bar in a really good conversation with a 9. But at 2 am you leave with a 5...
I was born in 88. I had two guys growing up, Stone Cold Steve Austin and Sting. Those two were my guys when it came to wrestling. Steve Austin will always be the GOAT imo
Hulk did go overseas in July and August for a Euro Tour to face Yokozuna (as champ) in Vienna, Dortmund, Offenbach, Munich (sell out), Berlin, Edinburgh, London, Toulon, and Sheffield (his final WWF match).
he lost at kor that's in june typically so did he win another championship that im not aware of?
Haha I’m rolling here, Conrad totally owned Bruce in this one. Worth a listen!
Bobby Heenan arguing during the Piper/Hart match was classic.
17:48 - If Conrad ever makes a WWE appearance this will be his entrance music.
“I will be happy to return the....”
HAHAHAHAHA
“That doesn’t work for me, brother!”
Hogan was on that tour. I saw him in Berlin.
Yeah, Conrad has admitted he fucked this one up. This is an old show.
Ok, I didn't listen until end, to be honest.
To make it complete: He won in an awful house show bout over Yokuzuna by count out. Even as a kid I was disappointed by the match. Ten minutes of kicking, punching, rest holds, choking and hulking up. ;-)
@@jeffreyriley8742 where and when did conrad admit this?
Dave Winfrey I don't remember but he did.
Where does he admit this?
Hulk’s favourite phrase backstage: ”that don't work for me brother!”.
“It’s in my contract brother!”
I heard a story that Hogan once told a truth.
Did Hogan tell you that?
He was lying.
Did Beefcake tell it
And another thing Bruce! You think WRESTLEMANIA 8 was 1 of the worst!! Are you fucking kidding me?? 3 AMAZING matches that say you are wrong. TAKER VS THE SNAKE! HOTROD VS HITMAN AND FLAIR VS SAVAGE!!!
OH & even though SID VS HOGAN was the visuals CRAP as kid to see the skinny ass not so ULTIMATE WARRIOR run in & return was awesome!!
@@aaronfell1816 yeah 8 was okay, worst is either 9 or 11.
Mania 4 was awful too
July 29th Hogan vs Yoko in Germany, it's on TH-cam look it up
th-cam.com/video/7PCxh09Yzt0/w-d-xo.html
Hulk didn't have the belt.
Grant Boughamer yeah he would have lost it already at KOTR at that point
JESSEWOLF1 you’re right there’s a few European dates where he beat Yokozuna by DQ. All in July 1993.
A match I'd never want to watch
This was one time where Bret should have refused to do the job
Loyality to Vince and love for the business screwed Bret, Vince was right. "Bret screwed Bret"
Just heard he didn't take diesels powerbomb in the cage match when taker popped out of the ring and drug Nash under
@@MaynardOwns Because it would have made no sense for the champion to be beaten and defeated in the middle of the ring just before going into a one hour iron man match at the biggest event of the year to pass the torch the the next top guy just so Undertaker & Diesel's non main event, non title match would have "looked better"...the whole "Bret refused to take my finisher" bullshit is just Nash being a mark for himself...and just for the record, not one other person has come out and backed that story up
@@MaynardOwns He was going to main event Mania as a face. He wanted him to look weak?
@@acidmack1041 yeah I agree. I think I left a detailed comment somewhere trying to workout the pros and cons of both sides of this alleged refusal to take powerbomb. Can't remember what my thoughts were exact but I do know came to the conclusion that Bret did the right thing not taking the bump.
I don’t care what anyone says. I watched the event live. Anyone who says anything bad about Hulk because of the finish clearly wasn’t watching wrestling in 1993. The crowd erupted and it was one of the biggest pops in wrestling history.
Everyone likes to put their spin on it, but at the time, I can’t remember ever being so excited about a finish to a match. Never before had the championship changed hands two times in one night, and it certainly never happened at WrestleMania.
Tbh as kid back then. I was happy hulk won the belt. But now in hindsight, should of been yoko/Bret moment
Yeah same!
True. though I think even that early I had become a big Bret fan. I think if he had left with the belt I would have been happy. But at the time I did cheer when Hogan won the belt. Different now of course.
WM9 ending with Hogan scooping a sneak win left such a sour note
Yeah and WM 9 was already horrendously booked and that was the cherry on the cake.
I love this bit of the Conrad-Bruce argument
Bruce: "do you have my book there"?
Conrad: "Your book says Hogan wasn't there"
Bruce: "I don't believe you"
Conrad: "HAHAHA"!
The original plan I always heard was Bret was going to beat Yoko where the match would be in the middle of WM and Hogan and Beefcake were going to win the tag titles which would be the last match.
It's rumoured that Hogan threatened to no show unless he got the belt back.
Even tho the guy who holds the World Title is a work, I can feel Bret on feeling some type of way about this situation. Was a terrible finish for a WrestleMania main event. If they wanted to hot shot the title to Hogan, they certainly could have done it a much better way. My two cents.
This is purely speculative on my part, but it's entirely possible that they are both right. Hogan DID work on the European tour in the summer of 1993, after he had dropped the belt to Yoko. When did those tickets go on sale? Probably before Hogan had lost the title. So, if the idea was to help sell tickets by making Hogan WWF Champion, even though he would end up dropping the belt before the tour actually took place, that is entirely plausible.
28:41 Bruce is such a natural yes-man that he needs to have a host who mocks and berates him on his own show for him to be in his comfort zone.
That talk about the European tour was classic😆. So funny
Conrad's laugh is so infectious.
wrestlemania 9 was one of my personal favorites because it was my first it has a special place in my heart ❤😊
Love.when bruce talks out his ass lmao
Vince: Jump.
Bruce: Off which cliff, Sir?
And I heard that in Prichard's Heyman impression!
WRESTLEMANIA 8 is one of the best ever!
You know I can go the rest of my days rewatching wrestling from 92 to 99 and be content with that. This wrestling today I just can’t do it. I’ve tried. It’s too much forcing myself.
Once again Bruce is right and Conrad had bad info. How does Conrad keep his job?
He is literally saying "Rumors and Dave Meltzer say this... What actually happened Bruce?"
Internet led him astray. NOT the first time this has happened with people believing the information they found on the internet.
James Richardson exactly plus Conrad knows the deal he brings up the b.s. rumor & innuendo so it can be finally put to rest. Not because he's got the wrong info. Am I right? Or am I right? We're right. Right?.
Keep his job? It’s a podcast
Bruce fails to realize that Vince worked him. The European tour was a bullshit excuse made to explain why that stupid WM 9 finish had to happen.
Best Wrestling Podcast on the Net by far!!!!
Even Shawn was pissed Bret was getting screwed over 😂
I love the fact that they argue like family🔥🤘🏿
could it be that Bruce and Vince put the title on Hogan for the euro tour then hogan bailed out making the title switch pointless lol
Just a bullshit excuse Prichard can give for Vince bowing down to Hogan once again.
I know that photos of Bret and Hogan with the belt on the beach existed. I used to have from a PWI magazine
Yup I think the build up was in several wrestling magazines. Just googled some images and found them. So that proves that was the original idea and then Hogan backed out of it.
Bret > Hulk!!
I went to a show in England in 1993. Main event was Yokozuna v Hulk Hogan. However the champion was Yokozuna. So the tour he's talking about must have been after King of The Ring.
WM 8 was awesome
I thought so
piper and hart was the best match of Wm 8
Is it entirely possible that they put the title on Hogan for the European tour and then Hogan pulled something to get out of going? Hogans a pretty busy guy and he also seems like the type that won't do something if it doesn't benefit him in some way.
Overall, it seems a little silly to argue with someone who was actually there because some random internet site says something differently. WWE was a private company back in '93, things like house shows weren't shared, so unless someone who worked for WWE in '93 is writing that site it's pretty fair to assume that there is probably a fair amount of information that's either skewed or missing.
Exactly. Because there's also Bret's account, that Summer Slam 93 was to be him against Hogan in a passing of the torch moment. They did promo shooting for that, allegedly a poster existed and WWF magazine reported on such a match (in a "who would win" scenario). If Bret got that right (or even the "back to Yoko on KotR" wasn't the plan from the beginning), it would have made sense to put the belt on Hogan for the July tour. He would have been champion. then things were changed before KotR, putting Bret against Lawler and Hogan moving out.
Bruce still kayfabes. Very often. Sometimes its obvious and sometimes its not. Pretty much any time he goes into "I was there, they weren't", he's in a corner.
@@str.77 Hogan made a bit significant in 93 but it was the same situation with Austin in 02
@@superlex611 what do you mean by that?
@@str.77 Austin was less involved in main event storyline
conrad comes off like he was trying to catch bruce in something. its obv that was the idea and vince changed his mind so he lost the title earlier than he was expected. oh whats the big conspiracy?? so bruce remembers the meetings about Hogan and the European tours and then vince changed his mind. so its bruce fault? what is he trying to catch bruce in?
Yeah and remember, Bruce has to remember this shit from 26 years ago! If Bruce knew back in 1993 that one day he would be on something called a “podcast” being interviewed about all of this, I’m sure he would make sure to remember every detail lol
Jose Reyes
The big conspiracy is that it looks like they made up any old excuse just to put the title on hogan as fast as possible. That wouldnt have sat well with other wrestlers.
A lot of people, myself included, just want the truth. "Hulk thought Bret was too small BROTHER and BROTHER he wouldn't give Bret Hart a chance, BROTHER." That's the truth. I'm sure Vince had his head up his ass too, but ultimately everyone knows Hulk had a hand in fucking Bret (and Yoko, really). We just want the truth, but Bret Hart must have shit in Bruce's toilet, and Shawn Michaels must have unclogged it, because the fat fuck seems to hate Bret for whatever reason and just won't tell the truth.
Is there such a thing as a bad Bret hart match ?????
Yes. His match against Bob Backlund at Wrestlemania 11. Even Bret admitted it was one of his worst ever matches.
That submission match was a terrible idea....not Bret's fault (I'm sure you already knew that, but just thought I'd throw that out there). Also, Bret's "match" with McMahon at WM 26 was embarrassing and never should have happened...but I don't think that match should count towards his career. Other than those, Bret was involved in some of the most historic matches and is my favorite of all time.
Agree completely... Bret's two worst matches were WrestleMania 11 (with Roddy Piper's constant "Whaddy say?") and WrestleMania 26 (the match of 10,000 chair shots).
It was Bret's worst full WM match (not counting vs. Bolsheviks and vs. Vince) but even though it wasn't a bad match. Just way below his usual standard. I'd rather rewatching this submission match than the final matches of WM 33 or 34.
Yes.. every single one
It was exciting to watch Bret. He could actually execute wrestling moves.
too bad he doesn't have the charisma of a Hogan, Rock, Austin, Flair, Sting, Warrior, Macho Man etc
We Worldwide!
Yet id rather watch his in ring performance than any of those guys you named. Short maybe the rock on a good day
@@DmanDiceKing of the Ring was to showcase Bret Hart to keep his status strong as a main eventer
@@DmanDice And yet bret is a worse draw then all of them.
@@jb0609 not in canada and outside the us. Bret was a huge draw in many other countries but the us wanted exciting and controversial storylines.
I thought Wrestlemania 9 was nowhere near the worst, and quiet liked it. The idea that it's the worst, is generally the opinion of the Meltzer marks and Indy marks. The ending as a one off, at that time was great, because you thought Hogan, who was still most people's favourite wrestler was leaving/having very little to do with the WWE, so it was an awesome moment to see him win the title back.
The outdoor Arena in Las Vegas I thought was also cool. The only negative I'd have about the event was, a few too many matches ended in DQs.
The last few Wrestlemania's have easily been worse than Wrestlemania 9. They've been painfully long to watch at 5+ hours, and most wrestlers we don't really care about, and the main events with Roman Reigns (whom I don't mind) as a face been boo'd by the crowd, versing another heel, has meant the mainevent's of the last few years have been completely flat and downers.
Listening to this and remembering the glory days of the Pod 🤣
I love how so many people are on here saying "Bruce was wrong and got exposed." Well, Hogan was on that tour and Conrad has since admitted being wrong. Bruce had some of the details wrong but Hogan did wrestle Yoko on a house show on that tour. I'm pretty sure Bruce would know since he worked for the company during that time. I like both of these guys and they do a tremendous job, I just don't get why so many people are saying Bruce is wrong on this when there is proof that Hogan was on that tour. Just takes a little research
PLEASE tell me where I can see Conrad admitting he's wrong over this
I went to a European tour, and it was in July of 93! In the UK at Earl’s Court, so I can confirm he was there on that one! It was after he dropped the title to Yoko though, so perhaps is the confusion here!? Lol it was! Never the less I believe this was one of his last WWF appearances.
I love the barbs between u guys!
I'm going to listen to the KOTR episode soon. That should be one juicy episode.
It's hard to believe that there was no intention or support for the Hogan VS Hart match when the official WWF Magazine ran a big (kayfabe) feature after 'Mania hyping that very match. There were even interviews. I remember a dramatic silhoutte shot of a posing Hogan and the quote "but what about the Hulkster's heart?" to which Bret responded with something along the line of "what's my name?".
Read it as a kid, was totally excited for it, never happened.
But we got Thunder in Paradise, so....
What episode of 'Something To Wrestle With Bruce Prichard' was this clip from, again?...
Wrestlemania 9.
@@bdot187um- That's what I figured...
Thank you for the memory refresher.
I'll have to go back onto TH-cam & find that whole episode, now because I haven't listened to it in a long time.
@@tthomaselli2 don't mention it.
This is hilarious!!! Conrad's laugh sent me into an overdrive of tears.
Thunder in Paradise that is a title i haven't heard in a long time that is how good it was that i forgot that the show was real
They put the belt on Hogan because of the WWF going on tour. The European tour. Hulk was a bigger draw, and that's why they did it. Vince said that.
Bro, after the Bret vs Bulldog match at SummerSlam in the UK, Bret was WAY more over in Europe than Hogan was
@@jayfresco2118 at that time
Except Hogan never worked the European tour.
@@bryanclark1246 wrong, in England
alex kanyima Did you not listen to this video clip?
Conrad even confirms for Bruce that Hogan wasn’t on the tour.
Now, Vince’s reasoning could’ve still had to do with the tour, and thinking Hogan would be on it, but the fact remains that Hogan was NOT on that tour.
For some reason, the guy who knows he was screwed by Vince has a hard time believing Hogan’s tears and implications that Vince was trying to ruin what- by Bret’s own admission- was an excellent reputation amongst the boys.
Baffling.
I bought a chocolate bar because I wanted to eat it but when I got home I forgot about it and didn't eat it.
But why did you buy it?
To eat it.
But you didn't eat it.
I know, but that was the reason.
Good, simple comparison
Love it 👏👏😂😂😂
I love the chemistry 🧪 between these two.
Lol what?
@@FatMenace yeah the good cop, bad cop chemistry.. Its gold and interesting instead of 2 dudes agreeing with each other all day
“Doesn’t work for me brother” ...Hulk Hogan
Why this is an argument so many years later shows how much we loved that era.
Hogan pinning Yoko at WM IX was the biggest crowd reaction of the night.
There was a European tour in early August of 93 that Hogan wrestled in.
First of all, why do they even have hogan come out protesting.
Makes sense to me lol
Because Hogan needed to go over brother.
What was the buy-rate for the encore showings? Just curious if the decision from Vince was worth it.
DirecTV was launched in 1994.
Daniel Bryan vs big show for the title; Cena comes out after the match ends and finishes off show for the title
When Bruce says that either Wrestlemania 8 or 9 is the worst Wrestlemania, I wonder if he is basing that off the main event only. I can see 8 (with the Hogan-Sid DQ finish) and 9 (with the short Bret-Yoko and shorter Hogan-Yoko) being the worst main events... but Wrestlemania 8 had two really strong matches in Piper-Hart and Flair-Savage, as well as Undertaker-Roberts, which was Taker's first huge win as a babyface.
Hulk was advertised for the European Tour to face Yoko, but then pulled out and Duggan wrestled Yoko instead.
Wrestlemania 8 was fantastic aside from the main.
Absolutely, WrestleMania 8 is one of my all-time favorite WrestleManias.
Hogan didn't pull out, he wrestled on the July tour.
Worst main event? That wasn't even true when you wrote it, before WM34's so-called main event stole the cake as WM 33's was way beneath Bret vs. Yoko.
the best match on wrestlemania 9 was Michael's vs tatanka and in 8 was Bret vs piper and savage vs flair.. but 9 really did suck
@@jonsnipe5484 it really suck, because if you look at the card the talent was there but where there ever place everybody and how it booked
I was at the April show in Sheffield and Hogan was not there. It was a televised event and Yokozuna didn't wrestle a scheduled match, but did an in ring interview with Mr Fuji and Bobby Heenan about losing the belt a week earlier. He ended up wrestling a dark match after the TV broadcast had ended against Jim Duggan, who had also main evented against Lex Luger.
Bret vs Yoko could of easily headlined the European tour. Hogan was not necessary.
“Well, you hurt my friends, and you hurt my pride…” BROTHER!🇺🇸🎶
this match was the point where I ended my childhood love for Hogan and began to hate him
Bret dropping the belt at WM9 did suck, but it was the best thing for him over the next year. They were able to make Yoko an absolute monster and he had amazing feuds King and Owen before finally slaying the monster.
Yeah but 1993 was a slow bad year for professional wrestling in the WWE I think this is where I started to look at WCW more when I was running it's syndicated shows on regular TV here in Detroit and some of it Saturday night's main event
Ooooh weeee! Dammit man... Nobody holds these smarmy wrestling careerists accountable and isn't afraid to call bullshit on them better than Conrad!
Fuckin love Conrad!
I lost it after this point 29:48 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
WM8 was awesome btw
Hogan did have matches with Yokozuna in July of 1993. There is a match in July 30 in Germany.
Play 28:29 at .25 speed for Conrad Wheezing
MTRZGaming dude. That was hilarious
You glorious bastard you😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Which books are Bruce referring to? Has he written a year by year summary of WWE? I really doubt it, but it would be great to look at, plus color.
Bret harts book
I feel bad for the interviewee; he didn't seem to be ducking or lying to me...
james barrett jr don’t feel bad for Conrad. He’s the shit. Best interview in the wrestling biz.
Bruce "The Artful Dodger" Pritchard duck or lie? NEVER!
@@Cknumber01 I hope you got a lil something something from BoxOfGimmicks.com for your #rightthink
I love these stories guys👍👍😁😁😁😁
Mania 9 should of been Bret beating Savage and Yoko beating Hogan. Also on the card should of been Steiner's vs Money Inc for tag titles, Undertaker vs Lex Luger and Razor Ramon vs Bam Bam Bigelow. They also should of saved FLair/Perfect loser leaves WWF match for Mania 9 and not wasted it a few weeks earlier on a low rated RAW. WORST BOOKED MANIA EVER!
Totally agree!
@@ultimog3739 but it could have worked
I think hogan should have heated yoko then lead in to hogan vs Bret at summer slam.But randy savage vs bret would have been better at 9.
@@jimkirby6626 but looking back how it is possible to make Randy Savage winning the Royal Rumble in 1993 by throwing Yoko off the top rope ?
alex kanyima He could have knocked him out like Luger did at summerslam 93.Or get him a chokehold close to top rope like Chris Benoit did with big show..Or do this have everyone in the ring gang up on Yoko and toss him out ahead of time and have savage and backlund be the last two and go at it
What probably happened was Hogan was supposed to go on the April Europe tour but a conflict came up with the Thunder in Paradise pilot filming, so they negotiated he stay on and do the July tour (but not appear on TV) after dropping the title.
Not all the negative Hogan stories are true, but he is known for refusing to work with Bret Hart.
didn't he do Bret a favor with this decision tho?
Brett was too small. Not realistic. Hulk wanted to protect his reputation
Bruce you are awesome!!!
I never understood Bret's beef here. It was Vince's decision, and he gave Bret a strong run with the belt.
It would have been a lot better letting Yoko run with it for a long time, instead of doing the whole Hogan run in at the end of Mania.
He seems to be just like hbk not wanting to get rid of that belt
It was terrible business. It only helped Hogan.
@@theresabreaud No, Shawn was a prick and Bret was always about the business. Vince made a bad business move and let Hogan call the shots.
I was a huge Hulkamaniac and still was at this point, but I was also a huge Bret fan. Even as a 8-9 year old kid, I was wondering WTF was this bs?