Slay the Spire - Northernlion Plays - Episode 361 [Pivot]

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  • @macaddct1984
    @macaddct1984 5 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    9:38
    NL: We *finally* got all three key pieces
    “Finally”?! You got them at the earliest opportunity possible!

  • @thebombdiggity3941
    @thebombdiggity3941 5 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    SAPPHIRE KEY OVER VAJRA IM DONE

    • @Equited
      @Equited 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I thought that with his love for reaper there would be no way that he'd pass up the extra strength. How foolish was I.

    • @timbo3286
      @timbo3286 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      hey he also thinks an Upgrade on reaper is GOOD. Get one point of strength(like vajra) and you basically HAVE an upgraded reaper(actually even better as you can just keep increasing it using limit break)

    • @Avoncarstien
      @Avoncarstien 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wonder if he's doing it on purpose at this point

  • @racturegaming5825
    @racturegaming5825 5 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    You do in fact have an Ironclad win

    • @fallouthirteen
      @fallouthirteen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That was literally his first win wasn't it? Does NL have to be wrong about everything when it comes to this game?

  • @clapamonga3931
    @clapamonga3931 5 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    You do have an Ironclad win

    • @falsedragon7104
      @falsedragon7104 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And only one Silent win if I remember correctly

  • @TheEborden
    @TheEborden 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Oh boy 8 minutes in and I can see this already going badly. Egghead chose the ruby key instead of an upgrade on the first floor right before an elite fight and the sapphire key instead of Vajra AS THE IRONCLAD.

    • @TheEborden
      @TheEborden 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Which is also surprising cause on a previous run NOT as the ironclad he chose to take Girya over the spoon when he had some insane exhaustibles. Strength as the Ironclad? Nah. Strength in a build that relies on storm on its major damage dealer? Sign me right up! Are you okay egg?

  • @OzeR171
    @OzeR171 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    So there’s been a lot of episodes where nl makes some bad mistakes, but I’m pretty sure he screwed up in every available spot available

  • @Tranchera
    @Tranchera 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "We finally got all three keys" literally the earliest he could get them 9 minutes into the video.

  • @thebungler8150
    @thebungler8150 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    *P l e a s e* stop prioritizing key pieces

  • @youburntmytoast4478
    @youburntmytoast4478 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    NL didn't you win with the Ironclad first?

  • @CrymsynMoon
    @CrymsynMoon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    1) Reaper is not a good card to upgrade. It is in fact one of the worst cards to upgrade for the IronClad. 1 damage. The upgrade gives 1 damage! The upgrade is completely meaningless.
    2) No one is saying Vajra is a bad relic. Sure, if your deck completely avoids playing attacks, its not very helpful. But its great in the majority of decks, and especially considering all of your IronClad play seems to worship Reaper, you want strength. Stop the damn straw-man arguments.
    3) Stop worrying about removing that Parasite. It's one of the most benign curses and it actively penalizes removal. Not to mention the multiple True Grits.
    4) The writhing mass's "weak" attack comes with vulnerable and weakness. I don't even think you noticed. Getting vulnerable followed by a heavy attack can be brutal. Switching him to the debuff attack everytime can be dangerous if you get a bad draw.

    • @blakebastidas5885
      @blakebastidas5885 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is very annoying that every episode it's the exact same deck types and exact same words use every time
      Reaper
      Thicc deck
      Thin deck daddy
      Always takes the sameish cards even if it doesn't work in the deck really at all
      My dude have some zane its the 361th episode my dude do something diffrent
      Reaper only good time to upgrade it is legit if it's like the last card the 1 damage don't do much. That honestly getting meat on the bone or the starting relic is better then the 1 damage will ever heal in total. I can't watch them anymore, I just listen so I don't get hurt by blindness.

  • @macaddct1984
    @macaddct1984 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It’s a little risky, but instead of removing Pain, he could have bought Rupture and kept Pain. It might have worked with all his Reapering

    • @diegomaynez1425
      @diegomaynez1425 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sir you're correct, risky,but the best kind of correct

    • @whyofcoursenot3507
      @whyofcoursenot3507 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow i never thought of that

    • @MrJonny-rj9jr
      @MrJonny-rj9jr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ive done a deck like this one before , didnt get the reaper but instead demon blood relic and magic flower , i was healing 15 after every fight , it was a awesome deck , but the lack of defense can screw ya

  • @nicholasbeshel813
    @nicholasbeshel813 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Is Egg okay? Hes been playing better but this episode feels like a 3 month regression.

    • @frking100
      @frking100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What do you mean better? He got to ascension 17 and now struggles to make it to floor 3 boss and just dies to the heart unless he's got a godlike run and hasn't thrown

    • @nicholasbeshel813
      @nicholasbeshel813 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@frking100 that's what I was talking about.

  • @Freakei
    @Freakei 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    The bomb is pretty good NL. Especially stacked.

    • @MehYam2112
      @MehYam2112 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Compare it to playing Demon Form and waiting three turns. Definitely in the ballpark, maybe even better.

    • @Schindlabua
      @Schindlabua 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Demon Form is play once and forget but the Bomb feels like you need to construct the deck around it a bit more.

  • @jaldinsicon
    @jaldinsicon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    45:05 LMFAO the upgrade sound continued the song

  • @Jenny-tx4po
    @Jenny-tx4po 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This episode is like one of those okd Christmas movies where the old crumudgon slowly comes back around to the christmas spirit, except it's NL with the bomb.

  • @IBlack04
    @IBlack04 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love this egg. Cracked as he may be.

  • @thygreatestpog9576
    @thygreatestpog9576 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    “you know this is actually kinda nice”
    2 minutes left of video
    this ain’t it egg

    • @BIGhappyG33
      @BIGhappyG33 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Jason, show me feet!

  • @MrPranz103
    @MrPranz103 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I lost my mind when he had bomb and dosent take apparition... why do I make myself suffer before starting my day?! I love pain the pain I guess

  • @kwasichan722
    @kwasichan722 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I think you should keep playing with the defect as you've won with the other two

    • @kwasichan722
      @kwasichan722 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I said this and immediately realised it was a terrible idea

    • @mdb45424
      @mdb45424 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kwasichan722 My first real win was with the defect, its op as hell one you get a bit of healing

    • @Teal_.
      @Teal_. 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mdb45424 feels like defect has the hardest time against the heart to me but might just be me

    • @mdb45424
      @mdb45424 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Teal_. defect can easily go infinite ;3, thats pretty much how I won, I got the artifact that lets you draw a card when your hand is empty. with that I went with alot of claws and other free cards

  • @1337Question
    @1337Question 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    You did win with the Ironclad and silent. Also it's not Vaira, it's VaJra

    • @Jacob-sb3su
      @Jacob-sb3su 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No its Vaira.

    • @1337Question
      @1337Question 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jacob-sb3su No it has a J in it.

    • @vulpezerdavulcan9055
      @vulpezerdavulcan9055 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which are often pronounced like “i”s

    • @1337Question
      @1337Question 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vulpezerdavulcan9055 When has a J ever sounded like an i? Is it only in Canada? Google the Pronunciation then, it's vuhj-ruh.

    • @Xeroxias
      @Xeroxias 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Every source I've found uses the j sound. Although, if you really want to get into it, a proper Sanskrit pronunciation is evidently "Waj-ra"

  • @Jacob-sb3su
    @Jacob-sb3su 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    38:45
    So wait. He first thinks Reaper is exhausted, tries to exhume it, and then realizes its not exhausted.
    HE THEN HEADBUTTS, AND LOOKS FOR EXHUME, BECAUSE HE THINKS REAPER IS EXHAUSTED. EVEN AFTER USING EXHUME.
    Then, the cherry that tops this delicious egg sundae? He headbutts a card back that is RIGHT NEXT TO REAPER.

    • @viniciuscavequi4652
      @viniciuscavequi4652 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is the Slay the Spire version of the pot play

  • @Stand_By_For_Mind_Control
    @Stand_By_For_Mind_Control 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow I've never seen such a regression to the mean on the 3rd act like that. You absolutely shit your brain on that entire floor.

  • @frederiklund2022
    @frederiklund2022 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    STOP TAKING REAPER WHEN YOU HAVE NO STRENGTH

  • @noszelias
    @noszelias 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    NL, you have 2 upgraded true grids, why do you take cursed key over mark of pain?

  • @O-M-0
    @O-M-0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    27:03 Panacea might have been a nice choice for Ironchad, it makes Flex into a strength buff that lasts the whole combat instead of just one turn by blocking the "strength down" part. Upgrade both cards and that's 8 strength every combat for a low cost of 0 energy, and a nice starting point for Limit Break and Reaper.

    • @bentleytcoleman
      @bentleytcoleman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I mean, it’s a neat combo, but in practice it’s pretty underwhelming. It rarely works out smoothly, and half the time you’ll end up drawing flex before panacea, meaning you’ll have to cycle back around to flex in order to get the permanent buff or headbutt it back. Plus if you aren’t able to play panacea -> flex -> flex quickly enough, enemies will often just remove the artifact charges with their debuffs. Basically it’s like a janky and unreliable version of spot weakness.

  • @thomasjupp942
    @thomasjupp942 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Will Northernion lateLion continue his ascendancy over the malicious spire?
    nah

  • @What-sf5ey
    @What-sf5ey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bomb is super good what do you mean egg boi

  • @jessrandyss
    @jessrandyss 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Slow is fast, slow is fast.
    Oh, we're taking a super aggressive path first floor"
    Egg.
    Please.

  • @bentleytcoleman
    @bentleytcoleman 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    33 cards, that’s roughly the number of cards I’ll have by the end of an ascension 20 run. Just get more card draw if you are having low card quality issues. Cycle through the garbage and exhaust them whenever possible. And get more familiar with the various corruption deck strategies.

  • @maxmach4361
    @maxmach4361 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    11:20 Egg, with Bomb and Reaper that fight could not only end without taking damage, but even with gaining extra HP..

  • @ExemplarKyle
    @ExemplarKyle 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:14 *SCREAMS INTERNALLY*

  • @Smithy1294
    @Smithy1294 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You do have an Ironclad win you egg

  • @JoshRPGG
    @JoshRPGG 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tyler Perry's House of Payne used to air on the channel that became Peachtree. (You said TBS right after I wrote this, that's the one. This comment was rendered useless)
    Mark of Pain.. house of payne. I gotcha back.
    Also, glad you are looking at some of the Status/exhaust stuff a bit more now. Could always try taking a couple.

  • @d2r123
    @d2r123 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok, here's both the reason why a thin deck is king and why it also doesn't matter
    if you draw 5 cards every turn and you own 5 betterstrikes and 5 betterdefends, it is inevitable that you will eventually draw nothing but strikes when the enemy is attacking and that you will draw nothing but defends while the enemy is scaling in some way. Building the deck in any way that doesn't contain 4 non-draw cards at most along with the fuel for an infinite/massive combo with scaling stats means that you will eventually take damage on a first turn or some other turn if you fight for long enough.
    If you have a 50 card deck with 17 defends, there is a reasonable chance that you get no defends or only defends.
    If you let your opponent scale without punishment or if you let them hit you occasionally, you will eventually lose, right?
    No.
    Many cards carry over value between turns. Some cards also function as both attack and defends or both as attacks and scaling sources or as defends and scaling sources or as any of the above and also mill cards. If you have 1 blur for every 5 non-draw cards in your deck and you play every blur you draw, you will roll block over every turn after you draw through all your cards once. If you have a bunch of powers, your deck will get thinner as the rounds go on and you will draw your skills and attacks more regularly and use them for greater effect. If you use flying knees in a deck with any draw, the extra energy will stand a good chance of translating into extra chances to play attacks and skills, meaning that you have a smaller chance of being left with an inappropriate hand. This also means that you will be able to stuff more powers in your deck as the deck gets larger while having a lesser risk of only drawing powers. There are many cards which do better specifically under these conditions such as perfected strike, high-value exhaustible cards which would otherwise leave your deck under-powered after you used them, energy generating cards, cards which actually count your pile size like stack, aggregate, and mind blast, or cards which effectively create dead cards like turbo, overclock, immolate, and reckless charge, and search cards of any kind. Having a huge deck means you can get away with large numbers of repair cards such as self repair and reaper. The only character who doesn't immediately look like he benefits from large decks is the silent, but with his many powerful card-milling and drawing synergies available and with both footwork and after image, large decks are actually very easy to make work for him. After the fourth turn, it wouldn't be surprising to generate enough block without ever playing a block.
    But you will still get hit.
    That's fine. That's why you have more than one hp.
    tldr: bring back 50 card decks with draw and energy cards egg, it worked for you in the past and it can work now.

  • @elzipper716
    @elzipper716 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    45:13 I've won runs with 40+ card decks! The deck size does not matter as long as it's composition is balanced and synergises with your relics!

    • @SamuraiFoochs
      @SamuraiFoochs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So it's... not size, but how you use it? :)

  • @halfwing3306
    @halfwing3306 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Seeing Red without card draw = always bad. Always.

    • @halfwing3306
      @halfwing3306 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jpryan90 Ice cream just acts like card draw in that specific case. 5 new cards next turn.

  • @EpicNade
    @EpicNade 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey NL Metamorphosis and Chrysalis can be pretty good, maybe consider taking them sometime for the zane

  • @danielstastny5307
    @danielstastny5307 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    next time you can check for unlocked beta art on that class when your not sure if you have won with that class

  • @guywhocomments1393
    @guywhocomments1393 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay I believe you guys, but when was this mythical Ironclad win against the heart? I saw him run a really nice Impervious/Juggernaut deck and die. I went back to ep.354 and couldn't find it. Did he win as part of a super-subscriber stream, or the November SS?

  • @ashardalondragnipurake
    @ashardalondragnipurake 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    27:59 so we might as well play the card before upgrading it for no apparent reason

  • @KeepoKreepo
    @KeepoKreepo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Get's home from a night out on the lash and NL gets Hooba stuck in my head. Yo boi gonna be up all night feeling shity cause he not a perfect person.....

  • @mp3545
    @mp3545 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Takes Sapphire Key over Vajra ON THE FIRST FUCKING FLOOR WHEN HE HAS REAPER.
    #triggered

  • @J_God_Yamaxanadu
    @J_God_Yamaxanadu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    take apparition egg its literally -60 damage against the boss in the vast majority of situations

  • @herebejamz
    @herebejamz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I SWEAR I WITNESSED AN IRONCLAD WIN FROM YOU WHAT ARE YOU SAYING YOU MADMAN!?!?!

  • @mishking9547
    @mishking9547 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It ANGERS me how much he ignores Anger~

  • @m-rots
    @m-rots 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Egg memory is scrambled.

  • @ThatOneIrishFurry
    @ThatOneIrishFurry 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The amount of missplays it hurts

  • @daveywavey3853
    @daveywavey3853 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, just started watching this channel, never seen so much hate in the comments lol. Is it because hes been playing a while and still makes tons if mistakes? Just curious

  • @fdsrdyzx
    @fdsrdyzx 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Am I the only one who thought about Friends based on the title of this episode?

  • @kwasichan722
    @kwasichan722 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The run was screwed from the start

  • @izerix
    @izerix 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With bomb use a lot of blocks

  • @spirtjam
    @spirtjam 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    NL this run screamed strength build from the start and you tried to force a block deck 😭😭

  • @aidenmaskell9816
    @aidenmaskell9816 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not sure about not having an ironclad win chief

  • @nick.c6969
    @nick.c6969 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tbh my opinion ironclad is the best class

  • @spirtjam
    @spirtjam 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crying for pain rupture 😭😭😭

  • @hypervictini
    @hypervictini 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Ryan!

  • @thebebopbengal8273
    @thebebopbengal8273 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow

  • @_TheNormalGuy_
    @_TheNormalGuy_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    late egg

  • @user-vy2jr6pb1z
    @user-vy2jr6pb1z 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    ive seen a boy win a run with 3 bombs

  • @epicsnail14
    @epicsnail14 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This episode is sponsored by GWAR

  • @bruhbruh-uv5fl
    @bruhbruh-uv5fl 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Armaments is good and all but only when you have a thick deck and can’t upgrade most of the stuff. Imo the egg is over worshipping this bloody card and doing so is screwing up any potential synergy out there

    • @frking100
      @frking100 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Armaments is pure gold most of the times it nets you 3 more block or dmg for 1 energy and an extra 5 block on top of it. It is basically a flex and 1 turn dexterity inside a basic deck in a better deck is just amazing.

  • @MattFellin
    @MattFellin 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Slowed down, made good decisions
    As a result, even with a jank deck and somewhat weird selection, you made it all the way to third floor and survived many difficult turns
    So next episode we're back to speedrunning, right?
    Also, NL, please, AT LEAST FOR THE SAPPHIRE KEY - You are guaranteed at least 3 choices; if you would rather take the relic on the first floor, TAKE IT. You still have 2 more 100% chests you can pass up to take it.

    • @jamma246
      @jamma246 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      _ "Slowed down, made good decisions"_
      wat

  • @williama842
    @williama842 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    An hour late, little disappointed

  • @jaja-2740
    @jaja-2740 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    How is NL so moronic at this game? Literally explains why a card is good, and then doesn’t take it

  • @brian3634
    @brian3634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jesus this hurt to watch. So many misplays.

  • @breadbaskets2772
    @breadbaskets2772 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That deck was trash

  • @ogrejd
    @ogrejd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ick. There he goes with the "thin the deck at all costs" again.
    Hint: True Grit ain't that good outside of Dead Branch decks.

    • @TDudePro
      @TDudePro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ogrejd True Grit is actually amazing in most decks. It lets you take curses, exhaust statuses, and spend gold to buy things at shops rather than removing. It’s an excellent card.

    • @frking100
      @frking100 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Upgraded true grit is super good as you can have curses/burns/wounds/dazes and just burn them out