Exactly the video I was looking for. We have the Truma TT2 and have to adapt by quickly wetting then washing and turning off shower, nice soapy lather then rinse off before cold. Takes a bit of getting used to but it’s luxury in our sprinter especially after a hike or few days in van travelling .
We've had our motorhome for a week now and I was thinking how could we possibly cope with 10 litres of hot water, now it makes sense, I don't have to fit a megaflow 250 litre cylinder like we have at home, just educate the wife in the right way to clean! Thanks for the information, very entertaining
Ha ha. Yes. 10 litres should give one a good enough shower. Prob be 40 mins before the next one. All about just being a bit savvy. Although 250litre mega flow sounds good 👍🏻
I've caravanned for 30 years and a point to note on these heaters. They were originally designed for and used in caravans where weight is the main consideration. 10 litres was deemed sufficient and has been for years. You cannot expect to shower like you do at home. Best way to use these is to turn on gas and mains, if you are hooked up. In this mode they can heat the water in 16 mins. Wet yourself in the shower, then stop the water, lather down and wash, then rinse off. If used in this way there is always sufficient water for two people and the heater will keep up in between. They are probably baffled, as with a very cold input you would soon feel the difference. To be able to get any kind of quick shower whilst on the road or away from facilities, is just a bonus really.
Just had my JP Vs installed, well, the electrics installed, still got to sort the diesel tank connect, the pump connect and the plumbing. Been searching for a clip to tell me about the shower time and also what water pump to connect, to cheers for this, quite useful. I will have to post once I finally get to use the little Showery® EcoFlow - Water Saving & Softening Shower Head, as it was the best I could find in terms of trial period, reputation, free deliver, added bonus they plant a tree for ever sale ;) but main point that attracted me was the claim ''The Showery® EcoFlow is equipped with 300 hundred laser-cut micro-holes that can save on your water consumption and increase the water flow'' the 3 pressure settings including the 'rain fall'' ie soft which should = most water saving setting, the 2nd point that sold me was its full of replaceable mineral stones that you can actually see in the neck of the head, ''mineral stones can reduce chlorine and fluoride, toxins, heavy metals, bacteria, pesticides, rust and odours in the shower water.. and the 'touch clean spray holes' ''anodised aluminium plate allows mineral residue to simply be wiped away'' and lastly the option between two versions, with or without a Stop button, oh and the 60 day risk free trial. cant wait to try it, hope to hell it holds up to the claims lol ps, what pump did you connect? Im thinking a very low pressure one would be best?
Great video fella. I must admit me and the Mrs are very much men n make do. We wet ourselves in the shower, turn off n lather up and then rinse off. A 10 litre tank will do the both of us 👍👍👍👍
Thanks mate. Yeah to be honest… I do the same just in case I do run out. You can feel the water losing temperature so you can make sure you finish before it’s cold 👍🏻👍🏻
All very logical but an absolute nightmare in reality, especially as her indoors assumes 'at home' performance. 10L is enough for me for 3 days. 2 days in Scotland for her and we will have no water. Thanks Bud. Loved the format by the way. You seem very relaxed and confident. Upbeat, slightly comical at a couple of places which reminded me of #BourbonMothWoodworking a little, and you of him. Subscribed!!!
I see @hughtube has just reviewed that. Water capacity still 10l and everything the same except fuel. And maybe heat output. Could also think about a 3lpm restrictor so you can’t use it too quick. Thanks for watching 👍🏻
I've been very interested in the Truma system for some time. However, almost impossible to get here in the USA. I did find a suitable alternative that operates very similar. General Components puts out a model called the wolf series and by all accounts, seems to like its going to serve our needs similarly. Have not hooked it up yet as we are still waiting for our van to arrive so fingers crossed🤞
I'm looking at various systems at the moment but I'd have to say truma system is poor, you get a lot more shower time from the Alde compact 3020. Yeah it's pricey but it's a good 5minute shower and heating is great too. Thanks for your video it's good info.
I have no affiliation with truma so I’m not in a position to prove anything etc. but if the truma has 10litres and the alde has 8.4 litres. How can it give a better shower? Thanks for watching.
@@urbanarkoverland no idea but thats the system in my caravan and its easy five mins shower ( thats on boost setting and 3kw.) plugged in to site mains. The Alde costs £2700 to buy which is a tad expensive.
@@richardockenden8669 spoke to the guy at alde today at overland show. He explained that it replenishes the the hit as you use it (to a certain extent) I have lengthy showers in mine mate. I think it’s awesome
Does the Truma not heat the water as your going too? If you're stodd there turning it off. Presumably as water is leaving the 10 litre tank, it is simultaneously filling up and continuing to heat?
@@urbanarkoverland Oddly yes if you want a better shower as it increases heating while in use. Here is a video from the US that shows what most owners are finding out. It is sad that it requires it, but give it a try and see how you like it. Use MIX 2 th-cam.com/video/PcDTCf-ODgc/w-d-xo.html
@@LifeIsAJourney4Us ha ha ha. Been a while that I’ve even watched this video I made. So I clicked on it. TH-cam then recommended that video in link. Just watched and new that you had too. All that will do is reheat it quicker. It won’t make it any hotter. You will use the water at the same speed. 10 litres at 63 degrees is always 10 litres at 63 degrees. The ability to reheat quicker is great. But I’m predominantly off grid. So hook up not an option
Save the world shower head🤣🤣 epic👍 What’s the best way to dial down the pressure in the system? Which shower head have you ended up sticking with buddy? Thanks for the info.
@@urbanarkoverland ah ok, but once it's started is it quiet? I currently have an old gas heater and boiler in my MH which are completely silent and I just fitted a compressor fridge which is slightly noisy. So if I upgrade I don't want added noise.
@@BobbyandJemima I mean. It has to blow warm air. So there is ‘slight’ fan noise I guess. It doesn’t bother me. And yes my fridge does bother me so I’m not one of those that doesn’t get bothered by noise ha
When air heating, does this alternate the output between high and low like a cheap Chinese diesel heater or does it automatically vary the pump rate to adjust heat output and stay consistent?
Hi. It starts a little higher to begin with then it just steady as you go. I’ve noticed if you ask it to be really high it will run harder. You can also select it to run harder too 👍🏻
@@MastaSquidge ha. I’ll try again. It seems like it blows at one temperature until the target temp is met. Although there is a setting for eco which would be less. Not sure I understand the question sorry
@@urbanarkoverland I'll try to explain better. It's kind of complex though to be honest. The cheap Chinese air heaters only have two fuel pump speeds by default with the automatic thermostat control. All the way low, and all the way high. The heat output and fan speed are essentially driven by the fuel delivery rate. This means it only has two levels of heat output (and thus fan speed), low, and insanely high. You can manually set the pump speed on them, but it doesn't self-adjust depending on temperature. With an aftermarket controller the pump speed can be directly controlled automatically based on temperature. So instead of 2 output levels you have roughly 40 levels of heat output. One for each 0.1hz you can adjust the pump rate from say 1hz to 5hz. My question is does this unit operate at one of 2 or 3 output levels for air heating or is it far more variable so that it doesn't need to constantly fluctuate between output levels as the night goes on?
@@MastaSquidge I’m gonna say not entirely sure. But it’s nothing like a diesel heater. You don’t even know it’s on. You have to put your hand near the vent to be sure. The fan speed has never been a question of mine. It does let go full bore and then down to nothing no
Hi. Yeah I’ve seen this done. But more hag than it’s worth. I can have a 5 minute shower. Totally suitable for a wash. We don’t live in the van. So it’s just a rinse to rid sun cream and insect spray after the day. That kind of thing. 👍🏻
@@theazzi Hi if you go to this guys vlog and search recirculating shower you will see his system Mispronounced Adventures I contacted him and his system is still going strong
Hi so how does the tank fill and stop at 10 litres? And how's hot water pumped out of the heater does the cold water feed push it out? Every tine yiu use cold water does it full the tank or is they some sort of stop cock in the tank Thanks
Hi mate. Yeah you kind of answered ya own question there pal 👍🏻 The whole van is pumped. However you choose. I ha e the inline shurflo. And literally as you open the hot it is replenished with cold as the pump kicks in. The pump kicking in also forces the cold through the boiler resulting in hot coming out the other end 👍🏻👍🏻
@@urbanarkoverland thank you, another question 😄 so how do you know the water tank is full and has 10 litres in. Am thinking of getting one of these but just want to fully understand before I commit to purchase
@@Fordmad90 because it is always full. So when you initially fill up…. You open a tap for example and you get air until the tank is full. Once it’s full…. It remains full. Always replenishing itself. To use a litre means a litre has pushed into it. Even when your cold tank runs out of water. That remains full. But you can’t use it without pushing cold in. Always full until you literally pull a lever to drain down. This is what you need to do I. The winter to prevent freezing up. So the day you fill your whole system…. If you have 10 litre boiler. 75 litre cold tank. You will use 85 litres.
If you're pumping nothing but straight hot water you're going to use up the supply much quicker. In reality, you're going to add cold water so you don't scald yourself...say, 70% hot, 30% cold. A hot shower, but tempered to be comfortable. As a result, the time will be extended. You should have done this test with the mix that's appropriate for a shower...I think you'd get another minute out of it. I read that "Boost" heats the water to 140 degrees...that's HOT. The normal setting is 110 degrees and even on a cold day that's gonna need at least a little cold water mixed in. IMO, the "perfect" temperature they should build these things for is 125 degrees...no "boost" needed. Not too hot, not to tepid.
You didn't mention mixing in cold...it appeared you were pumping straight hot. I'm picking up a new camper myself with this unit so I'll find out personally in about two weeks. Shorter showers might be worth it considering a typical propane hot water heater sounds like a jet engine when it's heating.@@urbanarkoverland
@@byronlemay2166 05:30 I absolutely did. I measured how much water it gives you at a temperature suitable for showering bi measure the time and the literage. Please watch a video before complaining. And especially when the creator says. Yes I did. Watch it again. The shower I use is blended to 38 degrees??????
Who's complaining? I bought a camper with one of these things that I'll be taking possession of shortly and I came here to see what your conclusion was regarding its performance. Obviously, I misinterpreted your technique...and for that I sincerely apologize.@@urbanarkoverland
Exactly the video I was looking for. We have the Truma TT2 and have to adapt by quickly wetting then washing and turning off shower, nice soapy lather then rinse off before cold. Takes a bit of getting used to but it’s luxury in our sprinter especially after a hike or few days in van travelling .
Def get a shower head that increases pressure but reduces volume 👍🏻👍🏻
This video made me reconsider my whole build. Cheers for making this video mate 👌👌
Glad it helped matey 👍🏻
We've had our motorhome for a week now and I was thinking how could we possibly cope with 10 litres of hot water, now it makes sense, I don't have to fit a megaflow 250 litre cylinder like we have at home, just educate the wife in the right way to clean! Thanks for the information, very entertaining
Ha ha. Yes. 10 litres should give one a good enough shower. Prob be 40 mins before the next one. All about just being a bit savvy. Although 250litre mega flow sounds good 👍🏻
I've caravanned for 30 years and a point to note on these heaters.
They were originally designed for and used in caravans where weight is the main consideration. 10 litres was deemed sufficient and has been for years.
You cannot expect to shower like you do at home.
Best way to use these is to turn on gas and mains, if you are hooked up. In this mode they can heat the water in 16 mins.
Wet yourself in the shower, then stop the water, lather down and wash, then rinse off.
If used in this way there is always sufficient water for two people and the heater will keep up in between.
They are probably baffled, as with a very cold input you would soon feel the difference.
To be able to get any kind of quick shower whilst on the road or away from facilities, is just a bonus really.
@@steveh3483 👍🏻
Good vid & info mate. TFS.
Nice one.
Just had my JP Vs installed, well, the electrics installed, still got to sort the diesel tank connect, the pump connect and the plumbing. Been searching for a clip to tell me about the shower time and also what water pump to connect, to cheers for this, quite useful. I will have to post once I finally get to use the little Showery® EcoFlow - Water Saving & Softening Shower Head, as it was the best I could find in terms of trial period, reputation, free deliver, added bonus they plant a tree for ever sale ;) but main point that attracted me was the claim ''The Showery® EcoFlow is equipped with 300 hundred laser-cut micro-holes that can save on your water consumption and increase the water flow'' the 3 pressure settings including the 'rain fall'' ie soft which should = most water saving setting, the 2nd point that sold me was its full of replaceable mineral stones that you can actually see in the neck of the head, ''mineral stones can reduce chlorine and fluoride, toxins, heavy metals, bacteria, pesticides, rust and odours in the shower water.. and the 'touch clean spray holes' ''anodised aluminium plate allows mineral residue to simply be wiped away'' and lastly the option between two versions, with or without a Stop button, oh and the 60 day risk free trial. cant wait to try it, hope to hell it holds up to the claims lol ps, what pump did you connect? Im thinking a very low pressure one would be best?
Great video fella. I must admit me and the Mrs are very much men n make do. We wet ourselves in the shower, turn off n lather up and then rinse off. A 10 litre tank will do the both of us 👍👍👍👍
Thanks mate. Yeah to be honest… I do the same just in case I do run out. You can feel the water losing temperature so you can make sure you finish before it’s cold 👍🏻👍🏻
All very logical but an absolute nightmare in reality, especially as her indoors assumes 'at home' performance. 10L is enough for me for 3 days. 2 days in Scotland for her and we will have no water. Thanks Bud. Loved the format by the way. You seem very relaxed and confident. Upbeat, slightly comical at a couple of places which reminded me of #BourbonMothWoodworking a little, and you of him. Subscribed!!!
Ah nice one. Thanks for that. Still learning. And hopefully will get better 👍🏻
good usable information that mate I'll be putting it in to practice
Thanks pal 👍🏻
This guys funny 😁 😂 with his explanations
Luxury. I could only dream of showering inside my camper.
Yeah I guess I forget how lucky we are to have any sort of inside shower. And how unlucky we could be to see you showering out the back of Edna 😂😂😂
@@urbanarkoverland piss off you were one of the first to get on my only fans.
@@Bugoutvehiclesuk stop ha ha ha
👌 thanks for this !! ❤
No probs
Great job very interesting info well done bud.stay safe all.👍🇬🇧🤘
Thanks pal 👍🏻👍🏻
You too 👍🏻
Nice, we have the new shower head and it has 3 settings in it and it was nice
Excellent stuff.
Vans looking great mate!🥶
Hello matey how’s tricks. Yeah mate it’s really getting there now. 👍🏻
Good content dude 👏 👌🏻
Thanks man 👍🏻
Nice review! 5m shower is pretty decent, we are thinking about getting the truma d6e (diesel version)
I see @hughtube has just reviewed that. Water capacity still 10l and everything the same except fuel. And maybe heat output. Could also think about a 3lpm restrictor so you can’t use it too quick.
Thanks for watching 👍🏻
I've been very interested in the Truma system for some time. However, almost impossible to get here in the USA. I did find a suitable alternative that operates very similar. General Components puts out a model called the wolf series and by all accounts, seems to like its going to serve our needs similarly. Have not hooked it up yet as we are still waiting for our van to arrive so fingers crossed🤞
Ah believe me. You have more stuff over there that I wish I could get my hands on than the other way around.
Good luck with it 👍🏻👍🏻
I'm looking at various systems at the moment but I'd have to say truma system is poor, you get a lot more shower time from the Alde compact 3020. Yeah it's pricey but it's a good 5minute shower and heating is great too. Thanks for your video it's good info.
I have no affiliation with truma so I’m not in a position to prove anything etc. but if the truma has 10litres and the alde has 8.4 litres. How can it give a better shower?
Thanks for watching.
@@urbanarkoverland no idea but thats the system in my caravan and its easy five mins shower ( thats on boost setting and 3kw.) plugged in to site mains. The Alde costs £2700 to buy which is a tad expensive.
@@richardockenden8669 spoke to the guy at alde today at overland show. He explained that it replenishes the the hit as you use it (to a certain extent)
I have lengthy showers in mine mate. I think it’s awesome
Exactly my thoughts
Does the Truma not heat the water as your going too? If you're stodd there turning it off. Presumably as water is leaving the 10 litre tank, it is simultaneously filling up and continuing to heat?
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In addition to boost, did you also set to mix using both electricity and LPG at same time? You need to do that along with boost.
Why do you NEED to do that. It’s an option yeah. But do you HAVE to?
@@urbanarkoverland Oddly yes if you want a better shower as it increases heating while in use. Here is a video from the US that shows what most owners are finding out. It is sad that it requires it, but give it a try and see how you like it. Use MIX 2
th-cam.com/video/PcDTCf-ODgc/w-d-xo.html
@@LifeIsAJourney4Us ha ha ha. Been a while that I’ve even watched this video I made. So I clicked on it. TH-cam then recommended that video in link. Just watched and new that you had too.
All that will do is reheat it quicker. It won’t make it any hotter. You will use the water at the same speed. 10 litres at 63 degrees is always 10 litres at 63 degrees.
The ability to reheat quicker is great. But I’m predominantly off grid. So hook up not an option
Once the 10ltrs as gone cold, how long to heat up the next 10 ltrs?
Depends on what setting. But about 40 minutes on gas
Save the world shower head🤣🤣 epic👍
What’s the best way to dial down the pressure in the system? Which shower head have you ended up sticking with buddy?
Thanks for the info.
I use the one that looks like it’s full of beans. And just don’t go crazy with the power 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks for the video. Do you find the system noisy? And also, you can heat space and water at the same time can't you?
Hi. When it kick in it’s a slight woosh.
Hot water takes priority i believe
But in heating mode the water gets hit as a big if a by product 👍🏻
@@urbanarkoverland ah ok, but once it's started is it quiet? I currently have an old gas heater and boiler in my MH which are completely silent and I just fitted a compressor fridge which is slightly noisy. So if I upgrade I don't want added noise.
@@urbanarkoverland ps. Thanks for your really quick response. All this help is invaluable.
@@BobbyandJemima I mean. It has to blow warm air. So there is ‘slight’ fan noise I guess.
It doesn’t bother me. And yes my fridge does bother me so I’m not one of those that doesn’t get bothered by noise ha
@@urbanarkoverland great. Thanks again x
When air heating, does this alternate the output between high and low like a cheap Chinese diesel heater or does it automatically vary the pump rate to adjust heat output and stay consistent?
Hi. It starts a little higher to begin with then it just steady as you go. I’ve noticed if you ask it to be really high it will run harder. You can also select it to run harder too 👍🏻
@@urbanarkoverland interesting. I'm not sure if that answers the question lol
Thanks for the quick reply though.
@@MastaSquidge ha. I’ll try again. It seems like it blows at one temperature until the target temp is met. Although there is a setting for eco which would be less.
Not sure I understand the question sorry
@@urbanarkoverland I'll try to explain better. It's kind of complex though to be honest.
The cheap Chinese air heaters only have two fuel pump speeds by default with the automatic thermostat control. All the way low, and all the way high. The heat output and fan speed are essentially driven by the fuel delivery rate.
This means it only has two levels of heat output (and thus fan speed), low, and insanely high.
You can manually set the pump speed on them, but it doesn't self-adjust depending on temperature.
With an aftermarket controller the pump speed can be directly controlled automatically based on temperature.
So instead of 2 output levels you have roughly 40 levels of heat output. One for each 0.1hz you can adjust the pump rate from say 1hz to 5hz.
My question is does this unit operate at one of 2 or 3 output levels for air heating or is it far more variable so that it doesn't need to constantly fluctuate between output levels as the night goes on?
@@MastaSquidge I’m gonna say not entirely sure. But it’s nothing like a diesel heater. You don’t even know it’s on. You have to put your hand near the vent to be sure. The fan speed has never been a question of mine. It does let go full bore and then down to nothing no
Look at fitting some filters and a recirculating shower. Then you can have a long shower
Hi. Yeah I’ve seen this done. But more hag than it’s worth. I can have a 5 minute shower. Totally suitable for a wash. We don’t live in the van. So it’s just a rinse to rid sun cream and insect spray after the day. That kind of thing. 👍🏻
Isn't it a problem to re heat the water that has been filtered, since I guess it isn't perfectly clean water?
@@theazzi Hi there once it passes the three filters before it gets to the heater the water is very clean
@@kenmackenzie7338 but then could the heater re heat in time?
@@theazzi Hi if you go to this guys vlog and search recirculating shower you will see his system Mispronounced Adventures I contacted him and his system is still going strong
How did you turn down the pressure, from the shower head or the pump?
The shower valve itself. It’s finding a balance between using too much water and still actually having an acceptable shower 👍🏻
Smart looking van mate!!
Out off curiosity are you just using a standard household shower valve or is it campervan/caravan one?
Hi mate. You in uk?
@@urbanarkoverland certainly am Manchester way! :)
@@halfjobhutton cool. Literally type in shower valve into eBay and you will see it. It’s household yes but popular in statics etc. 👍🏻
Hi so how does the tank fill and stop at 10 litres? And how's hot water pumped out of the heater does the cold water feed push it out? Every tine yiu use cold water does it full the tank or is they some sort of stop cock in the tank
Thanks
Hi mate. Yeah you kind of answered ya own question there pal 👍🏻
The whole van is pumped. However you choose. I ha e the inline shurflo. And literally as you open the hot it is replenished with cold as the pump kicks in. The pump kicking in also forces the cold through the boiler resulting in hot coming out the other end 👍🏻👍🏻
@@urbanarkoverland thank you, another question 😄 so how do you know the water tank is full and has 10 litres in. Am thinking of getting one of these but just want to fully understand before I commit to purchase
@@Fordmad90 because it is always full. So when you initially fill up…. You open a tap for example and you get air until the tank is full. Once it’s full…. It remains full. Always replenishing itself. To use a litre means a litre has pushed into it. Even when your cold tank runs out of water. That remains full. But you can’t use it without pushing cold in. Always full until you literally pull a lever to drain down. This is what you need to do I. The winter to prevent freezing up.
So the day you fill your whole system…. If you have 10 litre boiler. 75 litre cold tank. You will use 85 litres.
Yeah I understand now thank you so much for explaining i will get on and purchase one for my build 😊
Do you have LPG fitted then or do you only run when connected to 230? any reason for not using the diesel?
It is lpg and 240v. You can select either or. Or a mix 👍🏻
Didn’t really know about the diesel ones when I fitted it. But gas lasts ages anyway 👍🏻
@@urbanarkoverland thanks. The diesel is a lot more expensive. what else do you have run off of the LPG?
Your thumbnail says its not enough😂😂😂
Ha ha. 👍🏻👍🏻
What’s the sheer had called ? Trying to watch with 3 kids 😂
Just type in eco water saving in Amazon 👍🏻
Thank you. Can you use the truma as a heater with out putting water in it?
@@bobbyedwards6144 I wouldn’t no
Pretty much a navy shower.
Ha ha. Never heard that before. Guess you have a similar amount of space too 😂
If you're pumping nothing but straight hot water you're going to use up the supply much quicker. In reality, you're going to add cold water so you don't scald yourself...say, 70% hot, 30% cold. A hot shower, but tempered to be comfortable. As a result, the time will be extended. You should have done this test with the mix that's appropriate for a shower...I think you'd get another minute out of it. I read that "Boost" heats the water to 140 degrees...that's HOT. The normal setting is 110 degrees and even on a cold day that's gonna need at least a little cold water mixed in. IMO, the "perfect" temperature they should build these things for is 125 degrees...no "boost" needed. Not too hot, not to tepid.
I exactly did do that test? Rewatch it?
You didn't mention mixing in cold...it appeared you were pumping straight hot. I'm picking up a new camper myself with this unit so I'll find out personally in about two weeks. Shorter showers might be worth it considering a typical propane hot water heater sounds like a jet engine when it's heating.@@urbanarkoverland
@@byronlemay2166 05:30 I absolutely did. I measured how much water it gives you at a temperature suitable for showering bi measure the time and the literage.
Please watch a video before complaining. And especially when the creator says. Yes I did. Watch it again. The shower I use is blended to 38 degrees??????
Who's complaining? I bought a camper with one of these things that I'll be taking possession of shortly and I came here to see what your conclusion was regarding its performance. Obviously, I misinterpreted your technique...and for that I sincerely apologize.@@urbanarkoverland
Sorry
You don’t realise how many messages I get telling me what ‘I should have done’. And in this case I did ha