Can Milwaukee's New M18 Beat the Rest??? Compact Drill Showdown!
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- How does Milwaukee's Brand New Compact Drill Driver stack up against the rest?
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Great video! I was trying to decide between Dewalt and Milwaukee compact combo kits so this video (and the previous one) was a huge help!
Glad it was helpful!
So I just wanted to say that for a 51 year old adult who is seriously getting into Woodworking/Cabinetry for the first time in his life,. This channel has been one of, if not, the best of the Tool Review outlets that I have been watching! Thank you!
It's so refreshing to listen to someone who sounds educated and decides to go into relevant data with actual facts and figures instead of hearing all of that fuff!
Each time, I come away more informed and educated after watching your videos. It's such a relief instead of hearing the same brainless meatball analogies by some of these other Pom-Pom waving other channels.
Subbed and will be viewing your videos as much as possible. Please, keep up the great work! Thank you!
Thank you. I appreciate the support and I am glad you are enjoying it.
Good comment! This Gentleman is no nonsense, and unbiased, and responds to comments. Pass this along to those You know. Thanks! Enjoy your venture into new territory, and please be safe.
Thanks George!
Great video thanks. I’ve just ordered the Metabo HPT due to its nice build quality and ergonomics coupled with the kickback function as of course non of these drills have side handles.
I keep forgetting to mention the RFC as they call it on camera. It’s the only one of the bunch that had it. Glad you liked it.
Great testing as usual- I picked up the Metabo HPT and love it . The overall feel is high quality, powerful and comfortable. The chuck is very secure and locks down much better than my other drills. I've not had a single bit slip out of it yet. Overall pleasure to use, for the kit price it'll be tough to beat. It's been my go to driver since I picked it up.
Glad you are happy with. It’s a nice kit and usually has the best price here.
Good comment, and I’m glad you’re enjoying your new drill. I have to say, and being a Metabo HPT fan and user, I was a little underwhelmed by the new drill. It still has that insipid ‘loose’ FWD/REV switch. Seriously Metabo? That new triple hammer is sure nice. I love my 18 volt triple hammer. take care
@@georgedavall9449agreed! Also mine does a high frequency pitch when running :(
Liked your review as usual. Don’t know how I missed this one, especially since I have the Milwaukee brushless combo here.
I had the previous brushless set with hammer function, which turned out to be my go to tools.
Time will tell if the latest set will fill the void. Gave the previous set to my nephew, for his new house.
I have the Makita XGT combo for my big guns. But sometimes they are just that. Even though hand held with the 4.0 ah battery it’s a workout.
My other combo Dewalt 800 drill and 350 impact is like peanut butter and jelly, it just goes together. DeWalt did their job here. IMHO. lol 😁
Thanks Greg.
Excellent video! Tight presentation of what some other channels have turned into a waffling 24-minute clusterf@#k. Your OTJ 'Tuber time is definitely showing, here.
Intro and closing dialog is crisp & thorough; no wasted time or extraneous digressions. Same goes for the basic staging, which made for a *very* clean result in editing.
Also, a big thank-you for *cutting the gain on your theme music*, throughout. Lol I wish more YTers would figure out that loud, 'busy' BG music adds ZERO to a video. 🙄
All of which reminds to ask...please consider doing a video on two closely related subjects that every other 'tool geek' YT channel has almost entirely ignored, to date.:
- Basics of speed vs torque for your chosen screw types and typical applications.
- Why the specific brand/model of spade bit & auger? Your favorite? Best sellers?
As to specifics, same goes for the screws. I mean, are those brands/models the gold standards of the timber framing industry? Enquiring minds want to know, dude. Lol
Keep up the good work!
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Thanks. I appreciate the feedback. I’ll put the idea with behind the scenes details on my list of ideas!
Do you feel the Metabo was louder than the rest? Got mine today and had to throw on hearing protection. Maybe the frequency is just higher. Interested to hear your thoughts. Great video! Subbed
I don’t know that anything jumped out at me.
Thanks for the new clip
The new 3 speed compact impact driver From Milwaukee M18 3651-20 i just have seen clip from Ohio and a little disappointed when it still a physical switch but still impress how the small and the strength in class
I get what you are saying. I kind of like the old mechanical switch at times. Plus I would guess it keeps the cost down.
The dcd800 is in the compact category, the dcd794 is the low cost version
I consider it a compact premium version. Yes the atomic is underpowered here but the 800/805 is in a different class power wise in my opinion.
I’m not familiar with the DCD794, but my local Lowe’s had a DCD793 on demo, with a box of screws so customers could ‘play,’ and I rather liked it. The chuck was TRUE! Believe it or not!
The 794 maybe at Home Depot? I’m with ‘Tinker with Tools,’ on DeWalt’s ridiculous number of models in a lineup. It’s cornflusing! 😆
@@georgedavall9449 the 793 is the Lowe’s version but it seems to be just a little bit longer.
@TinkerWithTools another channel just showed the new milwaukee outperforming the dcd800 with a self feeding paddle bit. I couldn't believe it. Both had standard 2ah batteries. I thought the dewalt would take it and I'm team red. Now I gotta know!
you have the best tool review channel on youtube !
Thanks!
That Flex is an absolute monster, I don't think it bogged down once. I did buy the new compact Milwaukee kit, I'm more interested in the Impact than the drill. I am surprised about how the Drill performs. The Impact is awesome, the head is way smaller than my Gen 2 M12 Fuel Impact. It's crazy, if they slammed that new compact impact in an m12 format I believe it would be the smallest impact Milwaukee offers, as it stands now it is the smallest Impact they have. Hopefully the new forge batteries coming out are more compact than the standard Red Lithium batteries, kind of like Dewalts Powerstack vs their normal batteries.
The forge batteries they have announced so far are bigger capacity batteries. I am hopeful that they will come out with a small form factor battery but that’s just my hope and not any rumor I have heard
Beware the ‘seeping battery’ syndrome!
@@TinkerWithTools Yeah, where does Milwaukee come up with some of these names? 😂
The Milwaukee really outperforms what you would expect, but the Flex is just a miniature beast.
Not sure how the Flex would do when pitted against the Milwaukee M18 Fuel.
@@louisd95714 If you’re referring to the compact flex, the Milwaukee fuel would destroy it. It’s that simple. The Milwaukee fuel is comparable to the flex, full-size turbo, hammer drill, so comparing it to this compact model wouldn’t even be fair.
@@DiligentDave1966 OK, thank you for your reply. It's always nice to know when a tool purchase is a good one. :)
@@louisd95714 I’m not trying to promote my channel, by any means, but I did a video testing the Milwaukee 2904. I actually ended up, preferring, and keeping, the high torque Ridgid hammer drill.
id love to see the compact drills go up against the premium impacts, as far as weight goes they are all just about the same and even some of the lengths are similar. If i am carrying just one all day i'd like to know which one is the best for general drilling/fastening.
A impact isn’t good for drilling even though it’s possible. On the flip side a hammer drill won’t work on nuts and bolts. These cannot be combined into one tool.
I don’t know if you are going to get that comparison from me simply because I hate using impacts for drilling. Maybe I’ll do a short on it though.
@@TinkerWithTools drilling isnt my fav. with impacts either but if im up in rafters working im not gonna carry both.
@@markm0000 Hi mark, no disrespect, but I have to kinda agree/ disagree with you. I hear ya on the drilling with impacts, but it can be done. Makita makes some of the best hex shank drill bits, very true. The problem with impacts is they tend to spin the bit too fast, and the collets, by nature of their design, will allow a lot of oscillation in the bit. I am mainly referring to ‘jobber bits.’ Some of the auger and spade bits seem to do Ok with an impact, but I personally would prefer a drill.
I have used a stout drill to run in some lags and ‘nuts and bolts,’ as You said. But yes, on larger lags and such, an impact wrench is actually called for. Might save the ole’ wrist at that! Some structural screws actually discourage the use of an impact to run the fasteners in, i. E. Simpson, etc. I think that mainly applies to joist hanger fasteners?
I worked in the Trades in another ‘Season of Life,’ with years of experience, and I first used a Dewalt 12.0 volt NiCd impact, like circa 2001/2002. Only mentioned this as I’m speaking from experience. Of course YMMV. But I agree 100%, that One tool cannot do it all! Peace
Thanks for clarifying the decision to include the Ridgid subcompact drill in with the compact drill comparison, it makes sense. Shame on Ridgid for being misleading.
I don’t necessarily view it as misleading. Their product line has been out longer than most of these and others just decided to go with compact.
@@TinkerWithTools Maybe it because when I see the word "subcompact" I immediately associate/compare it with the Makita line subcompact tools. To my knowledge, they were one of the first tool brands to use that terminology. Which to me means: small and light weight (12 volt size): 18 volt run time, but not a powerful as the larger 18 volt tools.
Yeah all of these fit that description as well. But unlike that makita line up these all deliver more than enough performance for a lot of tasks.
@@abelesparza6059The ridgid is the smallest of all these. Not the shortest in length but it is the lightest and all the smallest in circumference. The Dewalt is absolutely fat. So is the metabo. How could they be in the compact catagory. What do you mean shame on Ridgid? Do your homework a go to a store and handle all these. I have. Ridgid is the smallest here. Just look at it compared to the others in the this video especially when he has them lined up and giving his last thoughts. The only thing that is smaller is the tiny makita and the last generation ridgid subcompact. The makita is so weak its not worth having. Also other channels have showed that out of all of these compact drills the ridgid gets the biggest power boost going up to the next powerful batrery. The ridgid 2.0 max output battery gives this thing like 35 percent more power with the same size battery. So the best power per size, weight, cost, warranty, is the Ridgid. There are sights that have put every size battery on these compacts and the most powerful were the flex, Milwaukee and Ridgid.
Would like to see if put dewalt Powerstack battery makes any difference.
I have a short that shows this on this drill. Basically I saw about an 8% increase in the task that was done. Yes it would make a small impact but it’s not going to change the order of the results. That would end up being maybe a few seconds closer than it was but likely still in last place. But by that same logic, we can put high output on Milwaukee and stacked lithium on flex and probably improve their times as well.
Just recently found your page and I'm enjoying the content. Was looking into buying some new tools and although Ridgid doesn't win in any of their lines vs Flex or Mikita, I ultimately chose Ridgid over the others. Love the Flex's power, and the Mikita has tools galore. Ridgid offered 2 free tools with their new high torque combo kit. Flex didnt offer any free tools with their combo kit, Mikita did, but their's was higher priced and stand alone tools are priced higher than Ridgid. Flex doesn't offer outdoor tools for yard work, at this time anyway, which was also a selling point for choosing Ridgid over them. It was a tough decision but I can go from wood working to yard work with Ridgid and with better deals than Mikita or Flex.
That's the betst hing about tools today, you can make the choice that works best for you. Ridgid has some nice tools. i havne't been a fan of their sub compacts but their High Torque and four mode impact work great!
good video, for the size of the metabo and the flex you could have added the dewalt dcd800 to the pile.
Yeah, it's been a frequent comment. I actually did test it that night and ultimately didn't include it in the video because it was a pretty unfair comp when it come to a lot of the testing. I have several other videos where I put it up against some of the dewalt drills here and even against other higher peforming drills from milwaukee and such.
The Metabo HPT combo is $129 at Lowe’s right now.
Probably the slow ramp up on the RIdGid would help to reduce cam outs on phillps fasteners.
I think it's possible. From my perspective, give me a good trigger and let me moderate the speed. But I totally understand if people prefer that.
I got the dcd777 and it’s a good drill but man it’s just so long I can’t get it into tight spots. I need to upgrade but I want the dcd794 with a metal chuck.
Well, then the dcd800 is your tool. Yes, the dcd794 is more compact, though it has no metal chuck and no option for one. But the 800 is still seriously compact, even more than its predecessor the dcd791, which in itself is still more compact than your dcd777. And the 800 has the all metal chuck.
@@Kara3405 thanks 🙏🏻
@@markm0000I also have the 777. If you’re looking for a comparable compact, I’d recommend the 708 atomic.
I’ve actually done a couple of head to head comparisons, and they are really comparable in terms of performance, but the 708 is definitely more compact.
I just thought I'd post an update. I got the Flex compact drill, and it is too heavy for a compact drill. I tried the M12, and the drill seemed weak. I tried the Ridgid subcompact, and the drill is great with a max output battery. However, the impact driver is weak. I might try the M18 compact next.
The flex has the 24v battery hanging off it and that will always feel like an anchor on such a small tool.
@@TinkerWithTools I found that the groove under the trigger digs into my knuckle just like the full size version. I think it’s because the knuckle on my middle finger is messed up, ergonomics is just as important as power to me.
Can you replace the dcd794 chuck with a metal one? That would be a cool video for each of these drills that have plastic chucks.
Responding to both of you comments with this one. The metal Chuck would be nice and I am sure you can replace it but I haven’t ever done it. The closest thing out of the box would be the DCD800. It’s a more premium version than these drills and big bump in power but it’s a solid well built drill. Probably my favorite drill out today.
I’ll have to try replacing one at some point and see how it goes.
@@TinkerWithTools thanks 😊
@@TinkerWithToolsidk if this is true about the atomic, but the 12v xtreme drill you actually have to take apart to replace the chuck apparently. According to what I've heard, they don't even use a reverse thread screw on the 3/8 plastic chuck. What they do is just really torque it down, and trying to remove it the normal way would screw up the gear box. They said to take it apart, put the shaft in a vice,and then bust the chuck off. I can link the video talking about it if you are interested.
Yeah I was looking at it today. Seems like more work that I would care to do if I am being honest. I wish they would make it more standard but from what I can tell most of their drills are that way.
I would like to see the Makita LXT sub compact drill be included in this group.
I’ve considered buying it but ultimately haven’t simply because of how outmatched the drill is compared to the others in this group. It’s down 150 in-lbs of the lowest drill in this group. I wish they would update it with a gen 2 at this point.
Metabo serious performance considering 2 ah battery.
According to a different video it had a max torque of 161 inch pounds with 2 ah and 220 with 5ah so nice knowing it has more on tap if neccesary
One more for the books! 👍🙏✌
Thanks George!
I was really attached to my 7 year old DeWalt DCD777 until the clutch burned out in the lower speed range. I replaced it with the Milwaukee Compact Brushless Drill Driver 3601-20. I' was having buyers remorse until I saw your comparisons. I have not used the drill yet and I'm wondering how it stacks up to the 20 Volt older DeWalt technology. Thanks
Having owned the DCD777 previously (it was actually my first TH-cam review - really stiff performance by me) I would say that the Milwaukee would blow it out of the water. The 777 wasn't a bad drill but the 799 and most of the drills here are a better and more compact drill. If I were picking one in the Dewalt lineup, I would find a way to get the DCD800 and that will really blow most of these and the 777 away. My love affair with that drill is no secret.
@@TinkerWithTools My Remorse is because I have a hard case which holds the drill, Charger and Batteries. It also has room to keep screws, bits and some other accessories. Some would say I don't like change but having this room in a hard case has me spoiled over having to dig around in a bag for STUFF. Somehow I scored the Milwaukee Compact Drill Driver, Impact gun, 2 batteries, charger and bag for $99.00 at Home Depot and could not pass on the deal. Thanks for your comments.
That’s a steal of a deal but I get the love for the hard case that works so well. One of the new Metabo impacts came in a case that had some additional storage in it and it’s really nice!
I believe it was not fear comparison - Milwaukee and Flex from compact class, others competitions from subcompact.
For example, you need use dcd800 model from DeWalt.
The only tool here referred to has sub compact would be the Ridgid. The DCD800/805 is roughly 1/2” longer than even the longest drill here. I love that drill and it’s great but it’s not product DEWALT designed to compete with these drills.
@@TinkerWithTools you mean that only AEG/Ridgid claim they tool subcompact.
Actually Milwaukee has only full-size and compact drill, Flex fresh player on the market and they available online in 24 volt what not comparable whit other, DeWalt has full-size, compact and something that they call atomic, Metabo/Hikoki has full-size, compact and something just a little bit smaller that compact - how we call tis smaller version? Bosch doesn't have subcompact, but if you look to the they brand new drill you definitely cau say this is full-size, this compact and this definitely subcompact in this line of products.
1/2 mean it's not compact compare his big brother dcd 999? My old dcd 760 was mach more longer, but it was compact.
Do a video with the new flex mid torque vs Milwaukees new mid torque
I don’t have either of them but ill add it to the future video list.
Which one was the nicest/smoothest/quietest to use?
None of them are bad to use. The Metabo HPT is nice to use and well balanced but none of them are all that bad.
@@TinkerWithTools the Metabo Hpt sounds very loud in the video, the Ridgid sounds very quiet, is it so?
Typically, smoothest, refined and best triggers are from Makita and Bosch. Across the line of tools.
The Metabo measures 87db in speed 2, the Ridgid just shy of 84db. But there is a 250 rpm difference in their top speeds. For comparison I put another drill with 2000 rpm top speed to test and it also was 87db.
The Metabo HPT trigger is a little less responsive then the Milwaukee and DEWALT but the Ridgid has the (in my opinion) awful slow ramp up in its RPM so it feels like you are waiting to get down to business.
Out of them HPT would get my money.Don’t own any of there cordless but corded several. They have held up great on the job for years they are the old school Hitachi tools .
It’s a nice kit. The impact driver is pretty darn nice and much better than I thought it would be. Overall really nice tools.
That flex is mean. But, I'd be worried about heat. Alot of them flexs get hot af
So, I’ve decided I need to do a three way hammer drill comparison. I’m gonna test the turbo Flex, the Dewalt DCD999 and the gen 4 Milwaukee.
The quick eject Flex impact driver has quirks that are already kinda annoying me.
I don’t think Dewalt makes the best compact drill out of the three brands, but I do like the ergonomics and trigger control even though the 999 is a pretty heavy drill.
I'll be excited to watch that test!
@@TinkerWithTools All three have pros and cons. I like the grip of the Flex the best, but the area between the plastic and rubber under the trigger starts to dig into my knuckle after a few minutes.
The Flex impact driver has a weird trigger. If I squeeze it really fast, it seems like it’s cutting out. Probably just a ramp up, but it also seems to get warm pretty quickly. I think it might also be a little too powerful.
The Dewalt has the next best grip, and great trigger control, but it is also heavy. I think the big body will help prevent overheating, which is a good thing.
The Dewalt is possibly the least powerful of the three, and I’m too keen on the compact Dewalt drills. Dewalt impact drivers are not the best either.
The Milwaukee has probably the best power to weight ratio, but I wish it had a little more material under the trigger. The grip could also be more aggressive, and I don’t care for the weird auxiliary handle design.
If the Dewalt can accomplish the task, I might take Flex out of the equation.
I’ll be sure to tag your channel in the description when I post the video.
The gen 4 Milwaukee handle is bad but the gen 3 was more like what you see from the flex. I just use my gen 3 handle. They redesigned so it would fit in the hard case I think. Not saying that was worth it but I think it’s the reason.
@@TinkerWithTools I wish I could get ahold of a gen 3 handle, but it’s not a deal breaker.
@@TinkerWithTools I will post the video, but I returned the Flex. Someone convinced me to try out the ridgid combo, so I’m probably gonna do that.
Flex just keeps Flexing! All I ever see from the plethora of tool testers is constant wins in all categories, yet somehow people keep hating on them. Got to love the brand loyalists and the blinders on their heads. LOL....
Flex makes some good quality powerful tools. I don’t always prefer them in terms or ergonomics compared to other brands but for the most part the know how to do performance.
Is the dcd793 comparable to this dcd794?
Yes. Same motor but different size.
You're Welcome Sir! 👍✌😊
Milwaukee really does a good job on their lower tier tools.
I have owned their entry level brushed tools as well and those tools even have a decent quality build. It’s part of what was appealing to me about Milwaukee in general.
Gosh, I wonder how much better the Flex would perform with the 3.5 amp stacked lithium battery.
Its improved but they would all improve on a better battery. I believe I did some testing on that video with the dedicated flex drill video
Flex tools are beast, I have the big one, that thing is over power, but is great, is a big deal
I have the Metabo, Flex, and Rigid. Rigid is my favorite by far. The grip is superior and the vibration is low. I have not experienced the slow ramp up, or least have not noticed it. It also hangs easily from the belt clip so I can take it to the roof easily without getting it bogged down. It is definitely a take anywhere tool.
The Flex is awesome, but runs hot and I have it overheat on me a few times. Maybe too much power. I definitely would not take it to a job site if I had to rely on it all day.
The Metabo is pretty good, but I would not call it superior or anything.
Ridgid is known for the slow ramp up. It’s intentional to prevent cam out.
What's your overall opinion of the compact Milwaukee drill?
Really nice and compact. Would love to see Milwaukee come out with a compact forge battery to pair with it like the 1.7ah powerstack. The chuck isn't as nice as on their fuel products (it's a little slippery in my opinion) but overall it's a nice compact drill.
@@TinkerWithTools I heard it gets pretty hot.
Yes it will get hot. Anything with that size and power combo will. I wouldn’t recommend it for someone’s only drill if they are doing predominantly larger tasks but for smaller stuff it’s well suited.
@@TinkerWithTools I almost always wear gloves when I’m using power tools, so I get a pretty good grip on the chuck.
All Ridgid drills are known for the slow ramp up, as far as I know.
It’s intentional to prevent cam out.
Yeah, you can tell me it's a feature but personally I find it annoying.
@@TinkerWithTools I’m not saying it’s not annoying. I’m just saying that Ridgid fans that are used to it say that it’s a feature.
I, personally, don’t like using a drill to drive Phillips screws because I’m not used to it. I will use it all day for Torx screws, though. With the clutch set to 15, my DCD777 drives Torx screws very nicely.
The 708 is about the same.
I really dislike Phillips screws... Torx is where it's at.
Good video as always
Would have liked to see how the DCD805 stacked up, it’s very compact
Thanks. As for the 805 it’s a completely different class of drill Plus it’s almost a mtn inch longer than the flex. Love the drill but not a comparable product to these in my opinion.
I would like to see a compact drill much smaller than these. If you need power you can just use a bigger drill
While some of these aren’t the most compact drill I am not sure how much more compact you can get than something like the Milwaukee.
Only Flex and Milwaukee completed the 1” speed demon in speed two.
Great video's But you show specs for way to short of a period. Try listing them for like another 10 seconds each time you show them.
Thanks and I appreciate the feedback.
I use the PAUSE button. not just this channel but any other where I need more time. In other situations you can Decrease or Increase the playback speed in settings for the individual videos
I’ve seen other videos of the Milwaukee, and it performs very well.
The Milwaukee compact set is much more impressive in person that it seemed it would be on paper and it's really compact.
@@TinkerWithTools I think the drill really shines, but the impact driver seems to get hot, from the videos I’ve seen.
I think if you are looking to use it heavy duty, it's small size will of course get hot. so I guess it depends on what you are buying it for. If you are going to be using it repeatedly enough for it to get hot frequently, I would likely recommend you go with a more professional impact anyway. I think that the common people buying the lower priced Milwaukee's are either buying it as a compact second impact or aren't using it in a professional setting. With that said, the Fuel impact will also get hot under heavy use.
Dewalt makes some powerful tools but their longevity and durability suck, at least at the industrial level with an oily environment. Milwaukee definitely outlasts them by years.
And you to can also own this milwakee tool for 3 times the price that do the same job
Give the milwaukee a 3.0HO battery and lets see it against the flex. The batteries would be more comparable in size.
I tested on the 3.0 on the initial video. It does get a bump in power. Maybe I’ll buy them against each other on a short.
Good point- the Flex is a very powerful, yet heavy unit due to the battery. Would be interesting to test the Milwaukee and Metabo equipped with batteries that made them the same weight as the Flex.The Metabo with the Multivolt attached becomes a monster.
Look like Milwaukee hopping on that compact Bandwagon Ship... LoL ill just stick to my M12 fuel.
I think it was time to replace their brushless non fuel tools and the market has really shifted since they last released. Not everyone wants to be M12 too so they can fill the need for small tools here.
Dewalt DCD 800 should be there instead of dcd 794!
I love the 800 but I feel like it’s more premium drill that the rest here. Price and power wise the 794 is the more direct comparison.
@@TinkerWithTools thanks! Makes sense ! I will buy either the M18 or the 794 then. (Personal use) and a the ewalt dch 172 for drilling but probably no impact driver. ( or maybe the the one that come with the M18 sub compact pack)
Make now mistake, the DCD800 is a better drill. If the 794 is on sale for $99 still where you are, then the price difference is greater but if the price difference is minimal then I would go 800 personally. I just think it's more powerful and robust than a lot of these drills and therefore not direct comparison.
@@TinkerWithTools thanks. I'll keep that on mind. I wanted the Makita xph16 original but still too big for me. Looks like it's going the DCD800 or the M18 BLDDRC.👍
😕 'Promosm'
You forgot makita
Didn’t forget so much as purposely omit. The makita subcompact is an older tool at this point. It would have been the longest drill of this bunch and would have roughly half the power of the the top tool in this group. Given those factors I just haven’t chosen to invest in their sub compact range at this point.
I wonder how much better the Atomic would do with a Power Stack battery on it , those 2.0ah batteries are garbage , imo .....👍🖖
I’ve done a short on it previously. Yes it will perform better but it’s not so much that it changes the conclusion.
@@TinkerWithTools So performance wise I'll just stick with my XR DCF800 Drill ....Thanks .... 👍🖖
The 2ah are decent with light loads and a smaller battery is nice to be able to fit into tight spots and it’s less weight to move around all day.
Yeah performance wise it’s a much better drill.
I’ve moved to the power stacks for that type of task most of the time for much the same reasons. The size is even smaller but you get more of a punch like a 5ah battery.
The clutch selector ring on the Milwaukee feels like cheap quality. The M12 version is better.
It's of lesser materials than the Fuel models for sure. But comparing to other brands, I don't think it feels poor quality necessarily. Just not premium either.
@@TinkerWithTools The ring on the Flex compact feels like it’s better quality than the Milwaukee version.
They’re both great drills for their size, though, and either one would make a great addition to whichever hammer drill combo I decide on.
I like how you left out Makita and please don’t ever include it on your next test. The Makita subcompact gen 2 is by far the worst due to the lack of effort of improving on anything. Certainly not the most compact or any performance show off in any category.
Yeah that tool is badly in need of an update. I don’t see myself buying it anytime soon.
@@TinkerWithTools every now and then there’s a deal where you can get it around 150, but what I did is get the hammer drill and an impact driver kit (not sure if it came with a 2.0) separately. What drove me insane is that impact driver was only 1/16 shorter than the previous gen and the hammer drill just felt bulky at the base. What ultimately killed it for me is that the hammer drill just didn’t have any power when I needed it. The Makita impact driver was actually longer than the Kobalt XTR if not about the same in length. If Kobalt made a subcompact line and that’s a big what if, I think it would crush Makita without a doubt.
@@ProxyFinal Good points Gentlemen, but I will tell you from experience, the First GEN 18 VOLT Makita Subcompact impact driver may be long, but it is thin. I bought one some time ago, as it was on clearance, and the battery and fast charger alone were more than the total cost. I tried it a few times, and did NOT like it. THEN, I had to get into some narrow stud spacing on a bath remodel, and the thin little impact fit! Also, I just ran several hundred feet of PEX in my basement (retrofit) and I had to install the plastic hangers, with 3/4 inch screws, and I put the Makita in the assist mode, and it was great. Now that little black impact is one of my favs, up there with my triple hammer, and M18 Surge! Peace. Stay safe
I had the 12v brushed drill and impact that are pretty much the same size but down on power to those. They aren’t bad tools in that they are nice to use but they are lacking on power compared to the competition. The subcompact is a lot of the same. The narrow part of it I get but if you want narrow you should really see the new M18 compact impact in person.
@@georgedavall9449 i never had any problem with it being narrow, but seeing what other brands are able to achieve I just don’t understand why they weren’t able to downsize the length for gen 2. It’s literally lazy design. Also don’t like how they Gen 1 and 2 look roughly the same. My criticism is geared towards Gen 2 rather than Gen 1
Where is makita
I don’t currently own the Makita sub compacts. With that said even the more recently updated subcompact models will not be very comparable in power and speed to these models. For some that won’t matter but it’s the main reason that I haven’t bought them.
That the wrong dewalt 😡😡😡😡😡
Definitely. Should have been the 805.
All Dewalts are wrong
@@NorwegianViking86you’re tripping dewalt is the og of drills and great quality
Dewalts are perfect for those weekend warriors out there, don't knock them because they are clearly made for more casual hobbyists
@@NorwegianViking86
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Nope, and I own Milwaukee tools.
This Milwaukee is junk. I had two defective kits in a row right out of the box. I’m moving on to another brand since Milwaukee can’t seem to make a simple drill work.
1st had a bad battery. I was already mad that a new tool is not functional but I returned it to give them another chance. Second shows up and is even worse than the first one . I noticed the trigger was flopping and literally comes off the drill. I looked and it’s broke on the back side. The battery was bad on this one also and not only that something was hissing when I tried to charge it. Absolute junk. The overall build quality on these kits are not the same as my other Milwaukee stuff. Even the plastic looks cheaper. The batteries don’t even lock in the charger good like my other kits. I don’t what the deal is with these but they are aweful and seem like very low quality or even fakes. I didn’t purchase on eBay or amazon or some sketchy website I purchased on Home Depot’s own website and my local Home Depot even shipped the second replacement direct to my house.
Sorry to hear you have had bad luck. What other brands are you considering?
Idk even know at this point. I’m already invested in soemthing like 7 Milwaukee tools for work and my. Drill chuck is going out so I needed a new drill and wanted a more compact drill. This unfortunately is not a good one. I’ll have to check and see if maybe there is another option. I really like Makita and I’ve never had a single problem out my Makita tools they just don’t have a good line up for my job. If I don’t find another Milwaukee option I may have to at least switch my drill over to Makita,Metabo or Flex.
I find myself really loving the Metabo HPT mid tier drill. Good balance and trigger. Decent power.
I didn't have that problem with my 2 tool kit form Home Depot in-person store. The batteries could sit better in the charger I will concede.
@@Crystals_and_Witchcraft I decided to keep looking and I found a similar kit on acme tools. It’s the same compact drill charger and 2 batteries instead of one. This kit is fine no problems with it. The detent where the batteries lock in the charger feel normal and the batteries charge. Somethings definitely up with that Home Depot kit for some reason.
Why aren’t you using the Dewalt dcd805 as it’s from the compact range and better than the one your testing against
With the 800/805 they are in a different class power wise than these tools. And then with the 805 it’s almost an inch longer than the longest drill here. So
While they are compact for more premium drills i feel these are in a different class.