ya it is a great pot thanks for mentioning where it originated it just seems as you said to id for ME and its usually just me so I passed on it and mors pot to got my own kit that has never failed and ill stick with it but its always a pleasure to see vids form you tom / kabaruser
Looking forward to the series. You have mentioned in a couple of videos about your students. Could you tell us a bit more about your classes or courses?
Your aluminum worries are mostly unfounded since the amount of it getting into food is so miniscule as to be safe. Copper is worse. Hard anodized aluminum is safe; iron is safe (though iron does get into your food but is not considered a problem); stainless steel is safe (but food burns on, hard to clean then). The pot you demonstrate is obviously a redesign of the Mors pot. And more expensive than that offered by fourdog.com. Flat lid is interesting.
The canteen stoves run about $20, so that makes the pot about $30, which is very comparable to the Mors pot. Many have said they liked everything about the Mors pot but the fact that it is aluminum.
are bushcrafters being led down the path to "gear snobs"? what do I mean by this? i'll tell you, look what has happened to duck and goose hunting, turkey hunting, deer hunting especially with a bow, back packing and camping particularly "ultra-lite", and don't forget fishing. every time an outdoor sport becomes popular, gets a show on tv , monthly magazines and social clubs like ducks unlimited what happens? the price of everything goes up and if you don't have the latest and greatest name brand or custom made equipment, well you're just not a part of the group. sadly it's happening to bushcraft now. with shows like dual survivor, bear grylls, survivorman, and popular YT channels bushcrafting is be coming big business and big money to those businesses. if you don't have a blind horse knife, gransfors bruks, wetterling axe, or a duluth pack you simply don't know what your talking about. those name brands are all excellent makers of quality items however do you need a $200.00 knife when a $30.00 gerber big rock camp knife works as well. or a $100 - $200.00 axe when an estwing $40.00 axe is every bit as good, or $300.00 pack when a $30.00 alice pack is just as good? so now we are being offered a $50.00 pot. it's used to boil water to rehydrate a meal or cook simple recipe's. I remember when a #10 coffee can could do the same thing. sorry for the rant but this is the path I see bushcraft going down which will price us out of the endeavor. at least you made a trade for your pot. thank you.
Like you mentioned: there are other options than the "advertised." Just because there are cars that cost $250,000 does't mean you can't find something for $20,000 that'll get you from point A to point B. Besides you're talking bushcrafting, build your own kit.
LOL. Sometimes you get what you pay for, but seldom when you are paying the inflated prices many well-known items command. Having humped loads in an Alice pack for many years I will challenge your assertion that it is "just as good" as a $300 pack. The Alice, other than being bombproof, has little to recommend it.
I retract my previous investigation I wouldn't have thought you had a school because your content seems to be geared toward the beginner who is starting on a tight budget Please send me info to become a student Thanks
Ive had my eye on that pathfinder bushpot. & will be picking it up when funds become available.. I'm not to keen on the stove ether.. It's not necessary for my neck of the wood. That bushpot is actually much nicer then the Mors Kochanski bushpot. Stainless steel & 8 cup capacity. The Mors pot is 7 cup capacity & aluminum..
Please, please, please, make a video of the pot boiling water and time it before you black it, and one after...just to show us the difference in times...Thank you!
Blackie- It's always good to see a new video from you! I am looking forward to your bush pot video series! I have started doing that, too; but only got one video of the series done: Hometown Chicken and Rice. I want one of the new SS pots, too!
Love your channel, Blackie !! Lots of practical, good 'ol country, camping wisdom. You have knowledge that many of the "newbies" can't touch. Keep up the good work. Stay safe.........and as William Collins says, "Take plenty of knives and plenty of band-aids." (Best wishes from the 67 years young Camp fire Kid)
liquidvic Almost all reputable publications follow a similar one to the following. I a nutshell, we ALL are exposed to aluminum through ingestion, inhalation, and other means (it's even allowed in drinking water) every day. Unless you already have a health problem that prevents you from eliminating it (peeing it away) it's not a problem www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxfaqs/TF.asp?id=190&tid=34
ok..show me any cooking pot or mug ..bowl or cup that does not say anodized..if it is safe..why then does if have to be coated to be allowed food safe statis??
blackoracle69 Almost none on the market say anodized except camping pots/cookware. IF!!! If it is anodized it will have a color (usually brown or black) I've anodized aluminum before. It's an electrical process that leaves a coating on the aluminum to protect it from corrosion (yes, aluminum will corrode) and make it slightly more non stick. It has absolutely nothing to do with "food safe" but anodizing is a reasonably common process on aluminum aircraft parts or flashlights (anodization is what gives your maglite it's color) It seemed like a new-ish marketing trend to offer it on camping gear to make it seem cooler and sell more.
it also stops you from ingesting the "" corrosion"' that you speak of..remember back in the day we scrubbed our aluminum pots with stainless steel pads..the put them back on the stove to cook lunch or dinner....thus it was not the aluminums fault..it will oxidize on it s own and form a film coating for lack of a better work..its was our cleaning..that caused us to ingest the aluminum dust left in the crack from our cleaning methods..just like if you take a soft aluminum pot and use sand to clean in a creek..you will scar up the inside..and in those scars the corrosion can take hold..so after sitting in the back pack 2 months waiting for our next camping trip we look inside say ok its still clean and cook in it..i fully agree with you..aluminum in it self is fully safe to eat out of..as long as you don't do as i discribed in the cleaning methoids
Loved the video, i would love that pot as well, very nice design and i like the stove, for i use small stoves like those alot. I have an aluminum german mess kit as well and i love it, tho i am always cautioned about it because of the metal. So thinking i'll go with stainless but my favorite kit is the german kit, but worried to use it incase.Thanks for letting us know about aluminum, they would ban them if they would harm you i would think, if their was proof ..
Outdoor/backpacking cookware should be light. It should also be out of a material that conducts heat well in order not to burn the food but actually cook it (i don't mean water boilers like jet boil etc, i mean real cookware). The only material that is lightweight enough while also being adequetaly conducive is aluminum.
Great review Friend. Can't wait for the cooking videos. Thanks for sharing...
Very good, Thank you very much
ya it is a great pot thanks for mentioning where it originated it just seems as you said to id for ME and its usually just me so I passed on it and mors pot to got my own kit that has never failed and ill stick with it but its always a pleasure to see vids form you tom / kabaruser
Looking forward to the series. You have mentioned in a couple of videos about your students. Could you tell us a bit more about your classes or courses?
I just bought one last week havent even got to play with it yet.. 120 oz size
Your aluminum worries are mostly unfounded since the amount of it getting into food is so miniscule as to be safe. Copper is worse. Hard anodized aluminum is safe; iron is safe (though iron does get into your food but is not considered a problem); stainless steel is safe (but food burns on, hard to clean then). The pot you demonstrate is obviously a redesign of the Mors pot. And more expensive than that offered by fourdog.com. Flat lid is interesting.
The canteen stoves run about $20, so that makes the pot about $30, which is very comparable to the Mors pot. Many have said they liked everything about the Mors pot but the fact that it is aluminum.
Your bushcraft channel is one of the very best on youtube. Thanks for all you do.
I like the zebra pot but also bought a big titan pot
Was that homeland security flying over?
3:00 the black helicopters found you.
largest helicopter base in us.. they are everywhere
are bushcrafters being led down the path to "gear snobs"? what do I mean by this? i'll tell you, look what has happened to duck and goose hunting, turkey hunting, deer hunting especially with a bow, back packing and camping particularly "ultra-lite", and don't forget fishing. every time an outdoor sport becomes popular, gets a show on tv , monthly magazines and social clubs like ducks unlimited what happens? the price of everything goes up and if you don't have the latest and greatest name brand or custom made equipment, well you're just not a part of the group. sadly it's happening to bushcraft now. with shows like dual survivor, bear grylls, survivorman, and popular YT channels bushcrafting is be coming big business and big money to those businesses. if you don't have a blind horse knife, gransfors bruks, wetterling axe, or a duluth pack you simply don't know what your talking about. those name brands are all excellent makers of quality items however do you need a $200.00 knife when a $30.00 gerber big rock camp knife works as well. or a $100 - $200.00 axe when an estwing $40.00 axe is every bit as good, or $300.00 pack when a $30.00 alice pack is just as good? so now we are being offered a $50.00 pot. it's used to boil water to rehydrate a meal or cook simple recipe's. I remember when a #10 coffee can could do the same thing. sorry for the rant but this is the path I see bushcraft going down which will price us out of the endeavor. at least you made a trade for your pot. thank you.
Like you mentioned: there are other options than the "advertised." Just because there are cars that cost $250,000 does't mean you can't find something for $20,000 that'll get you from point A to point B. Besides you're talking bushcrafting, build your own kit.
LOL. Sometimes you get what you pay for, but seldom when you are paying the inflated prices many well-known items command. Having humped loads in an Alice pack for many years I will challenge your assertion that it is "just as good" as a $300 pack. The Alice, other than being bombproof, has little to recommend it.
I should know by now to seek your advice before trolling around other channels. Very well done Mr. T.
I retract my previous investigation
I wouldn't have thought you had a school because your content seems to be geared toward the beginner who is starting on a tight budget
Please send me info to become a student
Thanks
The stove section is no longer available from the manufacturer.
I wasn't impressed with any of the Pathfinder cook wear . IMO much better options out there.
Can you name some? Im looking for a stainless bottle and nesting pot.
Olicamp Space saver mug, or glacier mug, Kleen canteen bottle
Great video. God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts.
wow you back in the old videos now lol
Ive had my eye on that pathfinder bushpot. & will be picking it up when funds become available.. I'm not to keen on the stove ether.. It's not necessary for my neck of the wood. That bushpot is actually much nicer then the Mors Kochanski bushpot. Stainless steel & 8 cup capacity. The Mors pot is 7 cup capacity & aluminum..
Please, please, please, make a video of the pot boiling water and time it before you black it, and one after...just to show us the difference in times...Thank you!
Great info thanks for sharing.
As far as the stove part, put the lid is it and it can be a lot like a plate/bowl.
Blackie you don't make videos for a couple months where were you
Not sure you'll answer this but what did you paint the out of the pot with.
looking forward to this series ... cheers blackie
The lid will let you use it like a Dutch Oven nice.
Blackie- It's always good to see a new video from you! I am looking forward to your bush pot video series! I have started doing that, too; but only got one video of the series done: Hometown Chicken and Rice. I want one of the new SS pots, too!
Good job Blackie . I can't wait to see you use the Trangia pot again.
Love your channel, Blackie !! Lots of practical, good 'ol country, camping wisdom. You have knowledge that many of the "newbies" can't touch.
Keep up the good work. Stay safe.........and as William Collins says, "Take plenty of knives and plenty of band-aids." (Best wishes from the 67 years young Camp fire Kid)
Awesome, thank you!
I like the look of the pot a great deal. Nice first look!
There goes the helicopter passing by....again. lol
could you use the BP stove to grill meat on?
Hey blackie, where are you living? I'm in southern Ohio, a little west of Dave canturberry
i am in LA..lower alabama
looking forward to the series! thanks for posting.
64 ozs
Contrary to popular belief; aluminum is NOT toxic!
I'm not challenging what you're saying but can you provide any evidence of this either way?
liquidvic
Almost all reputable publications follow a similar one to the following. I a nutshell, we ALL are exposed to aluminum through ingestion, inhalation, and other means (it's even allowed in drinking water) every day. Unless you already have a health problem that prevents you from eliminating it (peeing it away) it's not a problem www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxfaqs/TF.asp?id=190&tid=34
ok..show me any cooking pot or mug ..bowl or cup that does not say anodized..if it is safe..why then does if have to be coated to be allowed food safe statis??
blackoracle69
Almost none on the market say anodized except camping pots/cookware. IF!!! If it is anodized it will have a color (usually brown or black) I've anodized aluminum before. It's an electrical process that leaves a coating on the aluminum to protect it from corrosion (yes, aluminum will corrode) and make it slightly more non stick. It has absolutely nothing to do with "food safe" but anodizing is a reasonably common process on aluminum aircraft parts or flashlights (anodization is what gives your maglite it's color) It seemed like a new-ish marketing trend to offer it on camping gear to make it seem cooler and sell more.
it also stops you from ingesting the "" corrosion"' that you speak of..remember back in the day we scrubbed our aluminum pots with stainless steel pads..the put them back on the stove to cook lunch or dinner....thus it was not the aluminums fault..it will oxidize on it s own and form a film coating for lack of a better work..its was our cleaning..that caused us to ingest the aluminum dust left in the crack from our cleaning methods..just like if you take a soft aluminum pot and use sand to clean in a creek..you will scar up the inside..and in those scars the corrosion can take hold..so after sitting in the back pack 2 months waiting for our next camping trip we look inside say ok its still clean and cook in it..i fully agree with you..aluminum in it self is fully safe to eat out of..as long as you don't do as i discribed in the cleaning methoids
Loved the video, i would love that pot as well, very nice design and i like the stove, for i use small stoves like those alot. I have an aluminum german mess kit as well and i love it, tho i am always cautioned about it because of the metal. So thinking i'll go with stainless but my favorite kit is the german kit, but worried to use it incase.Thanks for letting us know about aluminum, they would ban them if they would harm you i would think, if their was proof ..
Looks a lot like river behind u just a lil wider
its a wild creek in lower alabama..many good times there
BLACKIE THOMAS what’s the date
the ga bushcraft event will be the first weekend of nov
I like,the msr titan pot
I’m in sc an have land on lynches river
nice..i will be going to the georgia bushcraft event..are you..we could meet
BLACKIE THOMAS what’s the dates an location
Outdoor/backpacking cookware should be light. It should also be out of a material that conducts heat well in order not to burn the food but actually cook it (i don't mean water boilers like jet boil etc, i mean real cookware). The only material that is lightweight enough while also being adequetaly conducive is aluminum.