Is the media actively working to undermine the Government?
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- Sean Plunket speaks to Robert MacCulloch - Is the media actively working to undermine the Government?
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We need to organise a protest - we can't have a publicly funded broadcaster acting as an unelected political party!
but they did before the election, totally pro luxon
@@gregsmith2164 nice one Greg.
@@gregsmith2164🤣🤣🤣. Good one.
Oh you are being serious, how sad.
The solution is so simple:
Don't fund them. Duh.
@@gregsmith2164 Don't think you were right there... watched non stop and their bias against Luxton and a coalition was pushed until the very end..
Their coverage of the recent protests is all the proof you need.
Which ones ? Brian Tamaki and his storm troopers ? The lunatic anti vax fringe occupation of the parliament grounds ?
Proof of what exactly?
Take off your tinfoil hat - you demoralised yourself with your own research😂
Like the coverage of the anti vax protest?
So correct TV1 report on the TPM protest was presented like a promo for TPM.
Disgraceful NZ media!
Absolutely
Propagandists- defund NZ MSM and repay journalism funds to taxpayer.
Yet here you are on bitter and twisted Plunket's show ... A man surrounded by other washed up ' media stars ' and financed by the shadowy squillionairs the Wright family ...
especially tvnz
Make Winston the minister of broadcasters stop the corruption
If I could agree with you on a loud-speaker, I would.... it's the best answer by far!
Oh hell yea give winnie the media portfolio, he will clean them out,
He is a liar arrogant and only cares about power not the people nor the real difficulties the nation faces he should be concerned with improving the lives of ordinary kiwis not defaming the media who put him in power for what I ask to what end
He should be the Prime minister
Imagine the howls! I interviewed Winston numerous times and the newsroom always manipulated the footage to make it say something different to reality.
“Defund the media”
It needs to be funded- but in whole, aswel as being guaranteed, that way they won't have to pander for access to politicians, or concern themselves with who's toes get stood on. Abc in aussie is state owned which means government control funding- not a free media, if we can have the military budgets we do in the west, then we can afford what is effectively a public watchdog for tyrannical leaders. ...used to be so😒
How true. It is so blatantly obvious. Get rid of TVNZ 1
WHY stop there? Media on radio have attacked govt for the last six years, nobody said a word
Just stop watching or reading anything biased. I do not watch tv 1or 3 I do not read article’s written by Tova or jesica.
It’s called voting with your feet. Or in this case eyes 👀
Are you saying to silence any media that you disagree with?
That's pretty totalitarian of you.
@@liamansell-douglas5706 - you noticed, huh? They sound a lot like Trump's mob, don't they.
@@liamansell-douglas5706media should be reporting facts, not their biased slant
The government on behalf of us should get rid of msm, we want them out
Yes
No. Stop consuming their product.
Back to the story:
I am glad to hear the professor say this, I thought I was loosing my marbles.
I have modified the way I consume media. I treat every article like advertising. I used to get caught out, early 2000’s, by talkback radio style advertising where adverts were styled as an interview.
Before I read any article on anything I have a conversation with myself, “This will reflect what the writer’s bias.”
Stuff and MSN have made it easy for us. They have signed a charter that they support some ideologies and oppose others and debate will not move their dial on their TRUTH. After-all “97% of scientists” agree with them.
ESG has resulted in the biggest transfer of wealth ….. to the wealthy on the basis that those in need will benefit. Unfortunately, the wealth transfer was not efficient and concentrated more wealth in the hands of the already wealthy. Mainstream media continues to be fans.
TVNZ and RNZ should be privatised. The NZ on air should be discontinued. All the public money enables this left wing activism by the media.
that is actually silly
i agree..probably a bot...@Gavin-sc8hy
Protest by turning off the TV and cancel your newspapers. Improves your life substantially
Yeah just ignore the issues that will solve it 🤡
The issue is the mainstream media. Cutting off their funding is not ignoring the issue, it’s sorting it out.
I turned off 5 years ago, no more public funding for the traitors of New Zealand democracy.
Who really owns the msm?black Rock, ESG?
Yes i am inclined to agree, took me a while to wean myself off TVNZ news, in fact all TVNews,prior to 2017 i had been okay with the regular 6 pm fare,but that all changed, finally switched off Jan this year, and you're so right, ones well-being improves immensely.
Nothing tells you we have finally elected a good government more than when the media looks to oust them
It's all lies these are the people who put this arrogant self serving cabal in power not you the voting public ..don't defame the people that put you there
4th estate has misinterpreted their output eh! You nailed it! Think we have all learnt a lot lately 😊
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What government are you calling good? You've elected a racist government who is going after the workers as well as Maori. Well done you, if you elected "Do Nothing Reti".
The government need to get rid of the tvnz staff and rebuild the network with unwoke journalists, editors.
We are all sick of listening to their nonsense each night, given breath to the most minor party’s and stirring up antisemitism and racism
you mean make it right wing so you will be comfortable ? Act and NZ 1st are minor parties
I stopped listening to them during Covid when Ardern said her government was the single source of truth and they all went along with it after the donation, a sarcastic person might say bribe, to promote misinformation and Labour's propaganda.
@@gregsmith2164No we insists on non bias reporting and not the extreme communist bent journalism we are getting now where some little TV1 & RNZ media reporter decides to campaign against the government the majority of NZ has voted for.... these little wannabe journos are under the same obligations as all civil servants who have to work with whatever government the people have voted in... otherwise they are dismissed. The majority of NZ brought in this change of government and it is their right to receive non bias journalism.
The government is the problem it's self. What a load of rubbish you guys talk.
@@gregsmith2164 right is right and left is wrong!
A classic example was the media’s bent during the Posie Parker debacle. Appalling.
The msm even edited video to misrepresent Posie Parker.
Take the money away see how long they last
Remove the funding and create a 'sink or swim', let the Kiwi public decide who is worthwhile following.
This is why comments are turned off in their streams. They know that we will hold them to account for the BS that constantly spews from their coverage of any news event that doesn't meet their narrative. Money talks, take their funding.
Don’t read anything that the comments are turned off
I like to go in the places where the comments are turned on sometimes, just so I can hear the most ignorant people in New Zealand telling us about their badly-spelled dreams for a brutal right-wing future.
Yep they are too gutless to allow comments.
@@AnthonyFlack It's gonna be a beautiful right wing future 😃
@@schlookieThere is very little future with Labour because they always fail.
Not if you defund them with tax payers money
Defund and pull their broadcasting license if they continue.
Isn't it amazing that in the comment section both on TV1 and Media Hub comments are by default are not allowed! I think they'd get such negative feedback in the comments it would be embarrassing!
When comments are turned off I hit the thumbs down button.
Exactly . When I get grubby socialists making replies to my
Comments etc I say why don’t you
Make a comment on the Hub, one news , and the Heralds channels !! .
And the reason Stuff withdrew from Twitter, they couldn’t take the blowback.
Well of course! For them it is not about sharing the news and getting feedback from the public - we're expected to only shut our mouths and swallow the propaganda like good little serfs.
I'm embarrassed every day for my country now. The government has started talking like you lot. Down with experts! FREEDUMB
All New Zealanders need to support this new Government as this will be good for all. don't let communism win!
But fascism is OK? Because this is what this coalition is.
@@cweednz explain your theory...
@@cweednz bullshit , they won because people voted ,get over it , the left wing ran this country into the ground with no back up plan , we have a long road a head to fix it , and to fix it cuts need to be made , they are not dictators , if the greens had it their way they would tax everything and boy would we pay
Tvnz always turn there comments off because they don't want to see the backlash
I have definitely noticed the MSM have been extremely biased with their reporting for a long time, making it almost impossible to watch anymore. The trouble is some people do still watch it, and I believe it is influencing this divisiveness in NZ that is completely wrong and unnecessary. It is giving a very loud and ugly voice to radical and violent opinions, and making it seem that kind of rhetoric is not only the norm but the "right" opinion - and if you disagree you have the "wrong" opinion. I think at the heart of it, it must be the kinds of people they are employing. I imagine a more balanced individual, or someone who supported National, Act or NZ First wouldn't even be considered for the job in MSM in the first place. So we only get this one-sided view, that feels very dangerous, and is not able to be challenged by the public because they kept the comments section turned off.
you seem to overlooking the extreme bais the msm showed towards the right wing leading up to the election. Did you miss that ?
Wise post
Well said. No opposing views accepted. Just labeled as wrong or crazy or ignored.
@@gregsmith2164 greg... you really must be the life of the party 😂🤣🤣
Yes the biggest problem is getting the 6:00pm news watchers out of their comfort zones.
This has confirmed what I believed to be true coming from someone who has the credentials to back himself up. Thanks Sean & Rob.
Do you have a “Hammer & Sickle “ embroidered on your shirt?
Comrade
Luckily, we have been able to watch the behaviour of the American MSM over the past seven years and it is easy to recognise the same playbook being used here.
I haven't watched TV for over 2 year's I got sick of the lie's and propaganda these people in media take the public for fool's
This guy's different! He's not a woke lefty good on him.
People that use terms like ' woke leftiy ' invoke images of tinfoil hat wearing consumers of right wing conspiracy hokum ...
And it's hard to be so in the universities where having a contrary view to the left - woke narratives is very career limiting. He must be good at his job.
@@rod-contracts1616 You have never actually attended a university have you Sparky ?
Yes. They are hard places to be if you don't agree and go along with the narrative. @@rod-contracts1616
@@weehudyy You are making a statement that you have no idea about, do you? Loser.
When Jacinda got elected there was a honeymoon period of about 6 years. In fact it's still going on.
This global woke movement is more than a little bit chilling.
not as chilling as the US led moves to silence anyone they dont like in the Media completely
The fact you think there's a "global woke movement" is heart warming - that a grown adult could still believe in fairy stories and things that go bumb in the night is just so endearing. Go on, tell us all about BLM and antifa - you know you want to!
That's just a term used by those with limited intellect.
They should stay in the paddock.
but the other side would say the same about the global right wing movement
If you use banks, credit cards or multinational businesses the YOU are part of the global movement
That moment was another nail in our universities coffin. Now the international students they depend on will not pay for degrees from a joke country. The activists run universities have been given enough rope and are now jiggling at the end of it.
Take the money away, let them work an earn, and watch how long they last
That's right, let them go back to England with their English and do some actual work their who obviously still consider themselves English, what a bunch of nutcases
This podcast needs to be shared with as many people as possible to get maximum exposure
Corporate Media ratings must be in the bog who actually watches, listens to their BS rhetoric. Winston has a TM of holding our so called Media accountable for a misinforming nature and bias. To cutout that nefarious behavior in that establishment.
Yep and that's why they always really have it in for him and discredit him at every opportunity.
Watchng Ryan internview the protesters, it was embarrassing, he had such a gleam in his eye and was obviously thoroughly enjoying ranking up the situation.
Horrendous "journalism" and not neutral by any stretch, going so far as to even put words into the protest leader's mouth!!!
Why is there no repercussions for fomenting sedition / insurrection ??
He needs to be sacked he’s not a journalists A..hole.
Robert MacCulloch, thanks for speaking up!
I don’t even watch main stream media anymore.this channel is my only source of news .thank goodness for this channel
bit narrow don't you think ? quite an small echo chamber
Better a small truth than a big lie.
@@gregsmith2164 You say this with your own experience right . They say 'Take one to know" '
It's a Safe Space for wokophobes@@gregsmith2164
@@gregsmith2164 nah just don’t want to listen to there bullshit freedom of choice is a wonderful thing
Well done Sean 👏🙌. Wow! So great that you could get Professor Robert MacCulloch on your show! If there’s anyone in NZ that we should listen to, it’s Prof Robert MacCulloch! 👍👍
Yes, very credible given the universities are extremely woke and left leaning.
Your guest is correct, NZ public (those who care), have had the same view as Robert for more than 2 years. MSM has contributed in a big way to divisive sentiment. It's obvious that the democratically elected new gvt is going to have to create some space and rules around public announcements for broadcasting throughout NZ not censorship of facts, but wording used.
How come when I click agree it goes from 21 to 20 who is doing this
Or don't fund them
Agree Andrea... in fact the video clip of Ardern boasting to Biden how she controlled what the NZ public were told about her vaccine... she openly told him proudly she brought the msm and then could control what the public were being told! This video clip, which is still out on the net, should be re-visited and replayed - there is no denying what she said and her intentions. The press has been controlled by Labour for the past 5+ years.
The media do this no matter who's in power 🤷♂️
Treason!
Sedition at least
we need more exposure of this
The news writers can be replaced by employing impartial content writers, I often think that the news presenters reading from an auto cue think to themselves...this is wrong ...I can't read or don't believe that, so I will question the validity of what I am responsible for saying.......where are those people oh yes still employed adding to the problem.
Read the dominion for the first time in ages today. May as well have been Pravda ... will go back to totally ignoring them
Friends don't let friends watch mainstream media!
Not letting a friend watch mainstream media, priceless!
Did you see that guy Matti throwing a leftie fit shouting and calling his invited guest a liar, on his interview a while back 😅you couldn’t help laughing he was so transparently biased.
What else can you expect from one of the rainbow 🌈 wok
Such a sheila.
Is is a man woman isn't he
Matty is an amateurish little media guy so biased
Just a little rainbow weather man. Dei is wrecking 'old' media.
Maybe time for a new act to stop bias broadcasting with very heavy fines for false reporting.
Difficult. Difficult. Same words mean different things to different people.
Media needs to be neutral and focus on facts not opinions.
Labour govt gave nz media $55,000,000 grant that was made available over a period of 3 years beginning in 2020 .
Cool! So the MSM's taxpayer funded gravy train hits the end stops at the end of the line in a few weeks time, we hope?
For covid not for their election campaign like national did 😂
@@Maariu01what ever😂
i havent watced the news on TV1 OR 3 SINCE the mosque shootings.SKY NEWS AND EVEN YOU TUBE ARE MORE RELIABLE
@@Maariu01Even MORE disgraceful. It's little wonder now the hysterical INCESSANT comms or rather PROPAGANDA that occurred. I commented on it from day 1 and what a horrific amount it must be costing US. Utterly disgusting.
I want to see NZ Media Council Principles rewritten and the Council membership reviewed to ensure unbiased reporting. Having taken complaints to the Council twice I have discovered that there is no ability to hold media to account over biased opinion pieces which make up probably 80-90 percent reporting these days. As a result biased media can basically mount propaganda campaigns and there is no ability to hold them to account.
That's because opinion pieces are free speech. We don't have to agree but we do have to support their right to publish
If you go to the media council you revoke your legal action option. Not legal to take away legal rights
The right to publish propaganda and mislead . Emptyhead.@@MartinCraig-zt2sv
When networked media apparently adopts a particular stance and only publishes numerous cheap poorly researched opinions from one side it amounts to a propaganda campaign. For democracy to address the issues facing us all people need factual information presenting all sides of an argument. @@MartinCraig-zt2sv
Also msm need to be held accountable and taken through the courts, there is more than enough evidence, take them down, and get rid of tv1 etc
Increase taxes on mainstream media and offer incentives to private companies. Starve mainstream media of any government funding. It’s gone on for long enough
Really sad and disappointing theyre blantantly taking sides
Thank goodness its a step towards restoring my faith in Auckland University.
Why would a young person go to university and at the end of their woke training only have a massive student loan, there are plenty if appenshisp that paye a shit lot of money to these young people ,you get paid as you study,also you ear a great income
We MUST defund TV1. Simply get rid of it. The State has no business being in the television business.
let them go, they only shame themselves, and people will see them for who they are, and switch off to them, and once people switch off, they are gone. Also as the present government grows in confidence, they will realise they do not need to speak with people who do not give them a fair go, great interview thank you Robert
I’m not so sure. I have a friend who swallows their bullshit hook, line and sinker, prodded on by his moron of a wife. Their are so many people like them who refuse to believe they are having the wool pulled over their eyes.
I've been commenting a lot on this on some Main Stream media TH-cam videos (When they actually allow comments), particularly the reports concerning the protests that happened the other day. The reports are full of "Anti-Maori" and "Racist Policies" accusations from the reporters and the people being interviewed, at no point did they mention what these policies are in detail. So I asked in the comments what those policies are, there was ONE person that actually answered the question and the rest was pure speculation and biased opinions with no actual argument behind them. This is what they are doing when they frame everything using the Racism narrative, people don't actually understand the policies they are accusing of being racist but they just hear the word and assume that they are. ACTs Treaty of Waitangi principle changes are the least racist thing I've seen from any of the parties so far to be honest, they are all about implementing equality for everyone and ensuring everyone has the same rights. It's disgusting in my opinion, the media are meant to be the middle man between the politics and the people, but they are creating their own version of politics to suit their own agenda.
Actually explaining the policies would be "work", and that's hard. Much easier to go a get a few sound bites from their Lefty mates in Labour, the Greens and the Maori Party.
No analysis, whatsoever. They don't even explain what the policies are. Quick sound bite, and off to get the dissing comments.
I remember one reporter, smiling as she reported on the balcony of parliament, that, overnight the protesters had been, tortured, by the music and the sprinklers. 🙏🇳🇿NZ
#defundthemedia
Whoever writes the short ditties with photos on my TV when I listen to National Radio (rarely these days) is an out and out Labour/Green/Maori activist! This needs looking into. I'd prefer photos of flora and fauna.
love the latest one with the maori flag looking to swamp the useless 3. Priceless.
a agree with 100% of what he has said
Why can't they just report things with no opinion on the matter.. every phrase is put in a way to try make you feel bad for supporting our own democratically elected government. Didn't see this sort of behaviour after Winston went with labour in 2017. Grow up
Why can't they report the news? Well, thats a very conservative idea. They are much more Progressive now - the peons need to be told what to think.
The NZ media has given the opposition leader in this period of post-election more airtime than ever before. Every policy and utterance by a Coalition MP has been attacked while Hipkins gets to freely give his two cents worth. This is blatant favoritism from a left leaning, one-sided media.
They neglect to even try and explain what the policy is, and they quickly switch to what Labour and Maori party politicians think of it. Ridiculous. Explain it first - do your damn job.
Dear Sean, Of course they are! They sincerely think they are the "correct thinking ones". As Thoams Sowell could say, "They are the Annointed and we are the Benighted". Or, as C.S. Lewis puts it: “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the (believed) good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
What? Would all the natural yoghurt knitters and tree huggers do something to undermine a sensible, practical Government that wants "Kiwi NOT Iwi"? You betcha.
The most fun part of the election has been the unhinged reactions of the NZ media fools.
Considering how soft the msm were about Winston’s comment on bribery, showed all I needed to see
Isn't that what CNN and other media outlets tried to do with Trump
Tried to? It’s been nuclear for some time now!!
Poor Trump! The media was all going about his lies, fraud, criminal trials, rape, insurrection etc and never about his lovely smile.
RE James Meager: What a brilliant maiden speech!! This man is just the type of MP that national has been lacking for too long, we may well be looking at a future Prime Minister, unless of course the woke element within the nats management moves to derail his thinking as has happened to some in the recent past...?
On Hoskings at around 7.10am Chris Cahill, the Police Assn President , made a clear and repeated call for the same sort of "Expectations" Letter" is Publicly sent to all Civil Service CEO's... YES Yes! this is a great idea and if it is enacted it will be the coalition playing an extremely powerful hand .
Those who followed Yes Minister / Yes Prime Minister will no doubt recall the episode where Humphrey is Gazumped by Hacker "Because its already been announced as policy...." Brilliant.
I hope to god that this clever strategy is not just me imagining such machinations
Editors are the ones you need to focus on
There are amazing writers in this country that have left due to editors
Owners.
Sounds like what they did to trump . Corrupt media does show
Is it a requirement that newspapers in New Zealand have to be Licensed to operate ? And are there any rules or obligations they must follow to be so licensed ? If not. Why not ? And if so is there a complaint procedure in the case of the breach of any such rules or obligations ? If so who are they ? And how does one make a complaint ?
No requirement to be licensed. No requirement for the staff to be trained either, as can clearly be seen in the standard of most NZ media. The BSA does exist and the courts exist for tort harm.
Why should we need anythng else? Only thing that might be useful would be a requirement that statements be clearly (and I mean CLEARLY) differentiated between "news" and "opinion" when the talking heads say something, and make failure on those fronts (both of notation and content) an offence for the BSA to be ab;e to act on. Will put a lot of the right & left wing nutters out of business, and cut down on the mis-information vomited up on right wing media.
How can we stop this ?
Without doubt they are it’s bloody disgusting
Jack Tame is a classic for this, a Jacinda Groupie. Winston is right, agree with the comment that he should run broadcadting and clean out the liars.
He is a Marxist extremist, anti-freedom, pro people control.
It's good to have comments on, now at the beginning of and news bulletin I always first look to see it comments are turned on, off not I skip it. Main stream media always have it turned off, what are they frightened of.
People calling them out for not doing their job?
Yes it goes deeper than that I think
The msm has gone woke
They make the news instead of reporting it !!
Everybody has gone woke!
Yes you can see it is a subtle constant attack.
Not so subtle but constant yes!!
Absolutely it’s so bloody obvious
This man is very wise. Im glad people are finally seeing this problem with our rotten media. Good interview, thank you.
Winston said what we all think, Kudos to Mr Winston
Rob is correct. TVNZ and RNZ are biased. I heard an interview on RNZ this afternoon of the freshly minted Transport Minister, Simeon Brown being given no chance to explain his solution of a replacement Auckland harbour crossing. He was expected to say exactly what type of crossing would replace the harbour bridge and how much it would cost. No matter how much he tried to explain that he was still waiting for advice (he's only been minister for 9 days) the interviewer insisted he gave an immediate answer with a full costing. Unlike the previous government who promised the world, but without doing any costings, he was not prepared to do the same. Cleanser RNZ will no give the new cooitition government an honeymoon period at all. Shame on Radio New Zealand. Winny for Minister of Broadcasting!!!!!
the government just needs to give them the cold turkey treatment - cut their funding and open the media to the market to expose itself and discover where the public place their attention. The only way to get a free and fair unbiased media. Most people I know have turned off Tv and RNZ news anyway.
Jenna Lynch mob doesn't even try to hide her contempt for the new government. She was making noise before they were even sworn in.
Simple answer to the heading is yes, we can all see it to be true.
If the majority of the people do not watch it or read it then it cannot be called main stream media.
Make Winnie the minister for broadcasting, privatise all the media and sort these left wing clowns out
It's like someone saying: I was always wondering if the press is extremely left wing. And she/he says, I got it now!
Trumps whole term had an article everyday about bad orange man..
Absolutely
Great interview. Praying for New Zealand. Our Government. Blessing on you.Keep promoting
balanced discussion. John
Why does any public money even need to go on boadcasting?
yes it is, on the main news last night anti govt stories occupied double the space of the govt spokesman
I could not agree more!
Thank god for the platform 🙏
Time for the defunding of nz media to start, renege on the contracts of the previous govt because of blatant bias, and misleading misinformation..
Congratulations you’re becoming the leader of news in New Zealand 🇳🇿
This is so interesting and scary at the same time. And our media wonder why they have lost the support of the public.
How is this even a question - its undeniable
Similar situation to the us media relentlessly going after a certain president of recent times.
and rightly so
I imagine there are business/organisations that have access to AI systems that can identify bias from the media by simply processing written and spoken word both before, during and after the election. I don’t have doubt at all that bias is alive and well in NZ
Let's throw out the corrupt media.
Well they sure aren't helping. Instead of supporting the country all they do is negative reporting
Hi, I am so pleased I promoted NZ First to so many people, my feedback from them is very positive about the coalition and its competent agenda.
Attention Deputy Primister Winston Peters. I wish to push my agenda on the Marsden Point rebuild as we need our petrochemical production if we are going to be a first-world country. All food in our supermarkets and roading has a fossil fuel element to it. I would push for China to be the contractor in this endeavor as they have a successful professional and proven track record of quality infrastructure projects internationally, on time, and within budget. We need a sober view of China's human rights issues that are falsely claimed to be by Western propaganda. China respects the sovereignty of all nations The US bombs and China builds! China wants to trade not war and will be the dominant economic superpower. There are over a thousand petrochemicals we use unknowingly.
Historically, the destruction of Marsden Point was a politics of tyranny.
Either we import the oil or the petrol. Our own oil cannot processed at Marsden point.
Its the Petrochemicals that are important@@barneyboy2008
Media influence is pernicious. I recall the way it worked in Murdoch's papers in Australia......."the lens of wokeness" has a certain ring. It becomes entrenched of course.....
Of course they are. They still have dolleros coming in for a while thanks to the Liebour Grubbment. After that their lollybag from labour drops off.
Where is the investigation?