Con Te Partira Jacinda did you really care about 3 Waters and what was going on with Mahuta and co, it is really disgusting that this sort of garbage is going on in the back ground as the words say its time to say goodbye to all of this bs
Thank you Sean, Muriel is my favourite political commentator by a country mile. Great to hear her voice and views first hand and uncensored. You hit the nail on the head when you say we're being co-governed already. Democracy has been subverted by stealth, by Maori. Where this will end up taking Kiwi's worries the hell out of me.
@@iankinnell5643 nah!we are talking mythical fairies here,maybe after a night of magic mushrooms or some some rancid Tui pale ale ,but nah! No indigenous,Maori,arrived on a waka,a lot of real pre maori habitation has been buried,by Marxist Maori so called academics.
There is simply no longer a need for the treaty, its relevance and worth has long since past. To grow up and embrace opportunity in New Zealand is equal at every level of society
Absolutely not. If we tried that, we would have the US trying to influence it for their benefit. It is bad enough they try to ignore it now.@@moniquebode1655
My GP when asked about how she finds the new Health system she said it is very confusing and she never knows who she is talking to and, she also cannot speak Te Reo. As a retired trained nurse this is extremely dangrous for our health system.
My Daughter is Indian working in the health system,& finds it works well,She can't & hasn't needed to speak Te Reo,interesting to note 2 very different outcomes.
Interesting to listen to. The media should not be government funded. Maori, are about 17% of the population, therefore should only have 17% of the say, not 50% or co government. There should only be one hospital system, not one racially divided. Having watched a clip yesterday where two girls were asked about the new prime minister they didn’t seem to know much about what was going on, I think they were helped out a bit and replied if he’s Labour he must be good. The voting age must not be lowered. But these are just my opinions. Have a good day everyone.
@@adsdft585 of course the voting age discriminates those aged 16 to 18. What I am saying is that the voting age should not be lowered because most people younger than 18 are too immature to have a sensible opinion on political matters. I have not heard any discrimination argument about lowering the driving age, probably for the same reason that I have just suggested, yet the legal driving age does also discriminate those under that age, however, having most younger people driving would just be stupid. Left leaning politicians like the idea of a lower voting age as most in the 16 to 18 age would probably vote for them. When I was young I liked some of the Marxist and socialist ideas a lot. However, by the time that I was 21 and could vote I realised that most far left socialist ideas were unworkable and cost the taxpayers, by then me, too much. You can’t put an old head on young shoulders.
Today is a truly Great Day because the Chief Racist / Chip Wrapper has resigned- although unfortunately it will be with us for another few weeks! Break out the Buibbly and rejoice.
No, there are far bigger bombs waiting to be dropped. 3 Waters Mandate court cases Non Covid related excess deaths Mahoota scandal Or She's been rolled by the Maori govt - sorry, caucus for dragging her feet.
A collection of a pile of crap that she was sitting on top of of. She couldn't back track on her projects and the Labour management told her to pack her bags. I also think by the looks of her that she has a few issues mentally that were affecting her judgement calls.
it s highly possible shed come to the realisation her extremist syncophantic social engineering agenda was spinning out of control. A certain caucus was in effect dictating to her and her inner circle what should be done bruisng her ego and carefully crafted image so much so she has deserted the ship leaving the cabin boy to command and steer it-aided by the chequebook corgi and a diet of sausage rolls.
winston peters LOL yea right he sold us out ...this guy is a shill also, did you not see david seymors 'reaction' ..absolute clown show has everyone forgotten about david seymors Terrible 'rap' video singing about mens private aparts and what would happen if we didnt take a certain you know what? NZ is backwards over 50% transformer rainbow warriors in parliament now .
Creating apartheid that has all the elite Maori has wanted. We are what 5.5 million people having two governances, we already have a health system that is now Maori and others, we cannot afford this. yes Muriel you are right. Unless we push back and push hard
... and what is "Maori"? If you are 1/8th Maori are you more Maori or Pakeha, or does someone just get to decide? Can I self-identify as Maori at 1/32? With continued intermarriage and integration is there any real point to this 'co-governance'? How can this separatist view, and operation, continue to function into the future?
Wiremu,is bewildered, who drinks the KoolAid Labour party ,Mahuta mafia propaganda & believes TOW $$$ will shower down on him one day...nah! Wiremu,not going to happen.
Maybe we could split the country in half. One area can live in a Left Wing Apartheid paradise while the rest of us can live in another part and get on with our lives.
Just because Sean is right on this issue about maori and the rest of us being 2 classes of citizens, we shouldn't forget that he supports 2 classes of citizens, just around jab status rather than race
Sure does - and it is quite disappointing that he can’t see that those against government overreach of a legitimate point. He can disagree but his dismissal out of hand does not make him a decent real journalist. I would be making a financial contribution to The Platform if not for that
Just because Mr Plunket is wrong about other issues, doesn't negate the fact that he is right on this one, use your intellect and deal with issues as they are....no one is perfect right?!?!?!
Kiaora. Im a nz maori believe me the only preferential treatment me and my family have recieved since that document noticably detrimental back to evil old days. Its intention was to devide because thats all it accomplished.
One person, one vote. Individuals and that's any ethnicity, who prove through time that they are representing all citizens of NZ can put themselves up for election. Thats democracy. You get to represent because the people put you in government to advance the people of NZ you get there by good character not race.
@@adsdft585 No, but all our MP's need to be working more effectively, less radical more substance.....everyone needs systems to be working more efficiently for the tax dollar to have an impact, someone suggested an audit of MP's...good idea.
Good grief...this country is so far gone now its unbelievable. Even if Nat/Act gert in, in 2023, you can imagine the hoohaa and racial claptrap that will be going on by the allegedly dissafected (((...Spain beckons....im about sick of apartheid NZ....
and making housing even less affordable(if that's possible), increasing homelessness, increasing child poverty, increasing suicide stats, putting tens of thousands of businesses out of action, and my pet peeve, signing the tppa she promised not to.
and main stream media cater to the govt, by having their comment section turned off so the don't get negative comments, it goes to show how weak the main stream media is,
It seems it's too much, too late. I guess this was the intention all along. Question is; whose idea was it to engineer what is now an obviously concerted and coordinated approach to overthrow democracy in New Zealand?
NZ has just announced that their klaus schwab trained UN/WEF/elitist's corporate govt PM is to retire. what was her input into all of this since she was first elected PM in 2017?
Just carrying he baton until the time to pass it on. Same as any PM, no matter the colours they fly. They are all just useful idiots to the powers that be.
Well this means that we never completed the Maori wars. So we must be in a rest period. Like the Korean war. When do we recommence. Because this paper is bringing arpartied.
Yeah Kia-Ora ur right you lost the war with us up North then y'all went crawling to our enemies then shetted on them when they were helping y'all then you fullas paid all of them a settlement in the 100's of millions your useless at making laws n fighting wars how bout you fullas STFU THE TREATY IS A FRAUD COZ YALL BREACHED IT ON THE FIRST DAY IDIOT
Amazing that Sean is so vocal on this issue, but choses to discriminate against those that are questioning the efficacy of a certain vaccine! Seems strange to me🙄
Don't the courts need to decide whether Maori ceded sovereignty or not according to the ORIGINAL Treaty document? Perhaps a group could seek a declaration from the court that Maori DID in fact cede sovereignty to the Crown.
and No talk Of the radio spectrum being 'given' (sold) to Maori and who they are partnering with (huawei) why is no one talking about this? really puts all this treaty crap to bed if you ask me, some (most) won't see it, Be a maori cell phone shop soon, Maori internet service providers, Maroi only doctors/health systems (already in the works) Maori only supermarkets...heck here it comes
LOOK AT THE ATTITUDE OF THE AVERAGE MAORI TO WORK AND EDUCATION AND PERSONAL HEALTH, WHO IS TO BLAME???????? HAS ANYONE MADE THEM HAVE THIS ATTITUDE?????????????
look at the radio spectrum they've been given a heap of it (sold) and partnered with huawei...here comes maori cellphones and isps! no ones talking about it
This,could easily push new Zealand into an apathied country,with 16% of the ethnic population suffering against the 84% which nobody wants.A divisive country normally ends up hitting the skids,it's just when & where.
Can you imagine all the nodding dogs sitting around the table smiling at how clever they are and how magnanimous to one part of NZ society they are being...sheesh!
Yes I can actually! 😂 you get that group think a lot, in gov jobs as I have witnessed. We become a very non confrontational society with people who don’t want to ‘rock the boat’ in a very kiwi fashion…she’ll be roight even when the most absurd ideas are being pushed through!
If nz were to turn into a failed socialist state, these woke highly ‘educated’ types would be the first to leave, and leave us to fix the country as they live in aus or London…
It's worth noting that at the bottom of page 6 of the document, it criticises the use of the word "Maori" as an adjective. Perhaps strictly following THAT rule would solve this whole problem. Maori politicians, Maori leaders, Maori journalists, Maori consultants, etc, would quickly hate that.
Sorry but how can you govern NZ based on Maori (people with mixed blood .. not just Maori) and then rest. 2 classes of citizens? A divide state / police / governing / education system etc. etc? NZ is too small and if we are ever going to compete with the world then sure we are stronger as 1 country / 1 people (regardless of ethnic race / religion / upbringing / or belief). Also, its not the Governments money - the funds come from tax payers and should not be used to fund the media to push a political narrative.
Well done Muriel more common sense, pity is not so common now, if this Māori bullshit is not nipped in the bud, we’re finished as a country.. Venezuela here we come and worse
Q: Did Queen Victoria Sign the Treaty? Q: Did Te Kani A Takirau Sign the Treaty? The Treaty has already been broken how many times? And now, some people want to get rid of the Treaty? Before the Treaty was Signed by the British Governors and some Maori Chiefs (Not all, especially not the Paramount Ariki Chief Te Kani A Takirau). New Zealand was Maori Land. May GOD ALMIGHTY sought this all out and sweep NZ clean as He wants. And may the Truth set NZ'ders FREE and UNITE both Maori and Pakeha People.
We are one nation and one people. We New Zealanders are all one people no matter what your creed, colour, race or religion, it is citizenship that defines a New Zealander not the segment of immigrants that brought and practiced aggressive tribalism & warfare in this country before the European settlers from Northern Hemisphere arrived and established the principles of law and order in this island nation. Tribalism with all its nasty ways was not peaceful. There are numerous accounts tribal warfare, tribes conquering other tribes, killing, enslaving and far worse accounts of what happened to the members of other tribes. Tribism does not work in Africa, it does not work in the Middle East, it did not work in Zambia, Burma, South Africa its not working between Russia & Ukraine. Whether black, white, brown, yellow or red tribalism has not worked and does not work. Is regards to unity it also does not matter what color you are or what mixer of DNA runs in viens. Tribalism does not work primarily because the lowest common denominator of our human race is greed. From the beginning of the human race when it was more like an uncivilised animal kingdom when the conquers took all they could from other tribes to grow their empires. Some of mankind have matured since then, accepted the need for the rule of fair laws, developed written languages as in New Zealand by using the A to Z of the alphabet and the shared teachings of the accepted English international language. There were European settlers prior to the Treaty that those settlers, Scottish, Welsh, , French wanted to get away from the English and the French systems of governance, they were not invited to sign the treaty that various tribal chiefs signed. New Zealand needs peace more than any other time in its history since tribal warfare was common practice in this country. We have had a truely multi cultural population even before the vast number of different cultures established in New Zealand and became citizens. I personally have the blood of 4 cultural identites running through my viens, I am a adopted bitsa that was put into a NZ government Maori school grandmother
looks like it is a co goverment is right.The maori caucus said they are meeting on saturday a day before the other caucus is meeting after jacindas resignation
In three or four generations, the majority of people in NZ will qualify as Maori under the 1974 Treaty of Waitangi Act. They may not, of course- but in theory they could band together and outvote everybody else. Then- who would be in charge?
Precisely. The Treaty fully protects both peoples. The thing is, it has not been fully respected, or implemented with that Treaty. The Waitangi Tribunal is the main voice in this field. As for He Puapua, it was always a look into what Maori thought UNDRIP should mean for them, and luckily, it is always framed in the Treaty. It is a totally different story if Maori went with the 1835 Treaty. For everyone else, UNDRIP clearly goes into intricate detail what it means for Article 2 of that Treaty, and where the state stands, and that document mentions it. How that is met could simply mean an Upper House that deals with that, and simply including Maori input, using Maori MPs. This document also includes tribes totally destroyed by the New Zealand Trading Company. Which Geneva indicated was an occupation under international law, and they are a ticking time bomb that will destroy this nation in violence, if their voices are ignored much further. At the end of the day, this mess is what happens when authority and democracy both ignored and restricted Maori over all these years since it was first signed into existence.
@@shauntempley9757 Well said- and thanks... ...I am sure there is a deal- which 80% or 90% of us will heartily support- which would take the form of a constitution... ...bid farewell to Britain, while maintaining our diplomatic and cultural links. We have no land borders- which is an asset.... I am sure there is enough goodwill buried here to achieve this.
which version of the treaty are you talking about? the original one swept under the rug..or the one edited several times to sweeten up the 'chiefs' at the time who understood no english...sean talks about the 'woke' .but completley missed that , you go hard and get that government money your missing out on , lol media cracks me up all about the $
Maori knew exactly what the Treaty was. To discredit them is demeaning and arrogant. Read the 1860 Kohimaramara transcripts if you don’t believe me. In it you can see the chiefs own words of how the Treaty was going 20 years on.
This shows that the dangers of educating for some with an agenda, use the language that colonisation has bought. It’s created some untruth dissent dividing this country It’s disturbing , destructive and it’s costing the majority who invested the most, into this country IMO
Because in the eyes of the extremist maoris that is only a very very minute bit of reconciliation no amount of $ or brown nosing will ever be good enough
The Maori fringe don't want full and final settlement they want an ongoing gravytrain like Willy Jackson has his snout in. There is lots of good Maori too who just get on with it and dont like this nonsense spouted by a few
@@iankinnell5643 unfortunately you're probably right, but will be interesting to see how much further support they get from Labour now Jacinda will be gone from 7 Feb
So the danger when speaking about something else, like the Treaty of Waitangi, when you mean to say something else... is that things can go awfully bad in fraction of second. Fail. See you next semester.
getting OCD looking at your masonic checkerboard red wall....did the tiler get lazy and fall asleep doing the right hand side? it's all crooked , gaps,/not straight...drives my OCD nuts ...nice symbology though..the pyramid,the name, checkerboard wall(fix the right side it looks bad lol) and clearly intervewing shills
@@derekjohnson3595 yep and went to pakeha university and became a judge in a pakeha judicial system which is exactly why he has more weight behind his position - pack of dummies
Oh and Maori should be more like you aye Sean. Ever since the Pakeha arrived Maori have had to try and fit into their own country. But the Pakeha would only allow us to fit in so much so they put up the blocks to keep us in our place. Didn't want to share their knowledge with us etc. etc. That's what the Pakeha have been doing ever since they arrived.
No true. Maori elders wanted the children to be educated. New Zealand 🇳🇿 is blessed to be able to speak English and be understood in and amongst many Nations. How awesome is that. I’m grateful. 😊
@wiremu 123 Incorrect.. Maori would have been wiped out by the French or still be running around in grass skirts killing and eating each other if not for the treaty
@@hoanateaika8111it was wrong that maori were punished for speaking their language, but the blame for it dying out is on maori. There was nothing to stop maori being spoken in homes and on the marae. Many cultures speak the language of the country they live in, as well as their own…
Paul you are determined to maintain the attitude that the British had a right to travel the world and invade nations and take land and occupy it and resources. The very reason Maori needed a treaty so as not to be treated like flora and fauna as was the case in Australia. Take the position of an invader and consider why we are discussing a treaty with the British hundreds of years later.. The so called re-write is just an indication of Maori rights and dignity. The real radicals are kiwis who have benifitted from colonisation across the globe.
Um, I think you may find Maori wanted to stop being hunted, killed, enslaved, raped, eaten by their fellow countrymen, the easiest way to achieve this goal was to be protected under the same crown law that protected the English. Stop making stuff up.
"you are determined to maintain the attitude that the British had a right to travel the world and invade nations and take land and occupy it and resources". You could ask the exact same of pre European And post European Maori, or doesn't this fit your woke agenda?
@@loop1479 dream on. The British invaded almost every nation on earth. Pilaged and defiled communities everywhere. It was in fact the British that wanted a treaty to ensure Maori did not create an agreement with the French first.
Fantastic news Jacinda is standing down.
Such a relief.
But is the damage already done…
@@prichard2151 yes, the horse has bolted💨
It's never to late to change things.
Con Te Partira Jacinda did you really care about 3 Waters and what was going on with Mahuta and co, it is really disgusting that this sort of garbage is going on in the back ground as the words say its time to say goodbye to all of this bs
Thank you Sean, Muriel is my favourite political commentator by a country mile. Great to hear her voice and views first hand and uncensored.
You hit the nail on the head when you say we're being co-governed already. Democracy has been subverted by stealth, by Maori.
Where this will end up taking Kiwi's worries the hell out of me.
Same here
"Democracy has been subverted by stealth, by" government and the UN.
Move
@@Hup-x1y nope
@@Hup-x1y zNz Is for everybody. No radicals pls
ONLY A FOOL WILL VOTE LABOUR.
I think all members and shareholders of the mainstream media will vote labour 110%
Unfortunately, there are a lot of fools around. Many people just can't think for themselves.
They do.
and there are a hell of a lot of fools in this country unfortunately
@@robstrickland166 At least their numbers are dropping now and by the end of their term there will be even less.
LABOUR MAKING US A TWO TIER ,MAORI AND THE REST. MAORI ARE NOT INDIGENOUS,THEY ARE MIGRANTS.
Exactly Patupairehe where here first
Not,even 16% & most of that number don't agree with these actions.Please,explain how this works ?
@@iankinnell5643 nah!we are talking mythical fairies here,maybe after a night of magic mushrooms or some some rancid Tui pale ale ,but nah! No indigenous,Maori,arrived on a waka,a lot of real pre maori habitation has been buried,by Marxist Maori so called academics.
100% ARGREED!!
Yes , they are migrants , like the rest of us , and this is something we need to keep saying .
There is simply no longer a need for the treaty, its relevance and worth has long since past. To grow up and embrace opportunity in New Zealand is equal at every level of society
Neva been honored, ,
Honour the treaty❤
We need to write our own Treaty where it's fair and just fir alll NZees
Absolutely not. If we tried that, we would have the US trying to influence it for their benefit.
It is bad enough they try to ignore it now.@@moniquebode1655
AHH?, you definitely clowning lol
I agree Steve. Maori need to take it up with the UK I'm sure Prince Charles will honor it
Great news, Cindy has just resigned, will leave as PM in early February, election in October.
The horse has bolted💨
Big job for someone to clean out the stable
Muriel and you, Sean, highlight some important points including the idea that the media is more powerful than any government.
She was the only politician I know of who stood up for Fathers. She promoted Shared Care and for that, she'll forever have my support.
My GP when asked about how she finds the new Health system she said it is very confusing and she never knows who she is talking to and, she also cannot speak Te Reo. As a retired trained nurse this is extremely dangrous for our health system.
My Daughter is Indian working in the health system,& finds it works well,She can't & hasn't needed to speak Te Reo,interesting to note 2 very different outcomes.
Interesting to listen to. The media should not be government funded. Maori, are about 17% of the population, therefore should only have 17% of the say, not 50% or co government. There should only be one hospital system, not one racially divided. Having watched a clip yesterday where two girls were asked about the new prime minister they didn’t seem to know much about what was going on, I think they were helped out a bit and replied if he’s Labour he must be good. The voting age must not be lowered. But these are just my opinions. Have a good day everyone.
If the law and the courts have said the voting age discriminates to those age 16 to 18. What law should be changed?
@@adsdft585 of course the voting age discriminates those aged 16 to 18. What I am saying is that the voting age should not be lowered because most people younger than 18 are too immature to have a sensible opinion on political matters. I have not heard any discrimination argument about lowering the driving age, probably for the same reason that I have just suggested, yet the legal driving age does also discriminate those under that age, however, having most younger people driving would just be stupid. Left leaning politicians like the idea of a lower voting age as most in the 16 to 18 age would probably vote for them. When I was young I liked some of the Marxist and socialist ideas a lot. However, by the time that I was 21 and could vote I realised that most far left socialist ideas were unworkable and cost the taxpayers, by then me, too much. You can’t put an old head on young shoulders.
@@adsdft585 Perfectly correct, give voting rights to preschool upwards. Moron.
correct legal terminology is crucial. "citizen of New Zealand" the only right identity must be apply on any of us.
Today is a truly Great Day because the Chief Racist / Chip Wrapper has resigned- although unfortunately it will be with us for another few weeks!
Break out the Buibbly and rejoice.
who?
@@defaultname01 exactly 😂
The horse has bolted💨
Asked hairdresser if she missed her homeland of South Africa she said no as it was becoming just like the homeland she left 2 years ago…say no more…
National party needs to get a backbone and call out this creeping apartheid
Isn't Muriel a breath of fresh air!
Muriel Newman has been a straight and sensible voice since 1995, when she began campaigning for the newly formed ACT Party.
It would be interesting to see how this ties in with the Critical Race Theory being taught under the guise of history in New Zealand schools.
N the criminal race stealing indigenous lands globally
Sad that millions of New Zealanders are not listening to this scary stuff...Where is the National party contribution on this?
Same as on the coff, they are part of it. Surprise.
Do you think the timing of Jacinda's shock resignation today (19th Jan 2023) is in anyway related to the cover being blown of this subject??
No, there are far bigger bombs waiting to be dropped.
3 Waters
Mandate court cases
Non Covid related excess deaths
Mahoota scandal
Or
She's been rolled by the Maori govt - sorry, caucus for dragging her feet.
Possibly. But she has done many other tyrannical things, too. So, it's a combination of all of these matters that made her run for her life.
A collection of a pile of crap that she was sitting on top of of. She couldn't back track on her projects and the Labour management told her to pack her bags. I also think by the looks of her that she has a few issues mentally that were affecting her judgement calls.
Or could it have something to do with a court appearance in Whangarei?
it s highly possible shed come to the realisation her extremist syncophantic social engineering agenda was spinning out of control. A certain caucus was in effect dictating to her and her inner circle what should be done bruisng her ego and carefully crafted image so much so she has deserted the ship leaving the cabin boy to command and steer it-aided by the chequebook corgi and a diet of sausage rolls.
I would love to vote for Dr Muriel Newman as our MP…..sadly she told me I’m not able too😢
Maybe we need to form a "Bring Back Muriel" Group.
Sean, would love to hear/see Winston Peters on this
winston peters LOL yea right he sold us out ...this guy is a shill also, did you not see david seymors 'reaction' ..absolute clown show has everyone forgotten about david seymors Terrible 'rap' video singing about mens private aparts and what would happen if we didnt take a certain you know what? NZ is backwards over 50% transformer rainbow warriors in parliament now .
He will say what everyone wants to hear, but mean none of it - he wants to get back over that threshold remember.
🥴
Hell, yes!
Why exactly? Can you not accurately predict his every word? I sure as hell can. PREDICTABLE.
Creating apartheid that has all the elite Maori has wanted. We are what 5.5 million people having two governances, we already have a health system that is now Maori and others, we cannot afford this. yes Muriel you are right. Unless we push back and push hard
Can you suggest why we have a Minister of Maori Affairs?
people will very quickly be called the "r" word.
Exactly on point...
... and what is "Maori"? If you are 1/8th Maori are you more Maori or Pakeha, or does someone just get to decide? Can I self-identify as Maori at 1/32? With continued intermarriage and integration is there any real point to this 'co-governance'? How can this separatist view, and operation, continue to function into the future?
Wiremu,is bewildered, who drinks the KoolAid Labour party ,Mahuta mafia propaganda & believes TOW $$$ will shower down on him one day...nah! Wiremu,not going to happen.
Do you know what kaupapa Maori is? If you don't then you probably aren't very Maori.
Extreme right-wing clap trap 😊
Maybe we could split the country in half. One area can live in a Left Wing Apartheid paradise while the rest of us can live in another part and get on with our lives.
Great idea, so long as where I am living is not in the woke lefties side!
Could we have a discussion on what Co- Governance means and the effect this will have on the Democratic basis of "One person ONE Vote?
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Honour the treaty , , ,not the debt that past n present governments own
Just because Sean is right on this issue about maori and the rest of us being 2 classes of citizens, we shouldn't forget that he supports 2 classes of citizens, just around jab status rather than race
The govt is all a part of these divisive ideas, it will be good when people start realising this
Yup.
Yep, hypocrisy right there
Sure does - and it is quite disappointing that he can’t see that those against government overreach of a legitimate point. He can disagree but his dismissal out of hand does not make him a decent real journalist. I would be making a financial contribution to The Platform if not for that
Just because Mr Plunket is wrong about other issues, doesn't negate the fact that he is right on this one, use your intellect and deal with issues as they are....no one is perfect right?!?!?!
Treasonous behaviour by the 4th Estate.
Government
Kiaora. Im a nz maori believe me the only preferential treatment me and my family have recieved since that document noticably detrimental back to evil old days. Its intention was to devide because thats all it accomplished.
I knew we were really in trouble when the government stood back and let Iwi form road blocks during covid.
One person, one vote. Individuals and that's any ethnicity, who prove through time that they are representing all citizens of NZ can put themselves up for election. Thats democracy. You get to represent because the people put you in government to advance the people of NZ you get there by good character not race.
Simple. Co Governance is war on our democracy.
@@whatthe6532 yes it is
So are you suggesting the removal of the 7 Maori seats in parliament ?
@@adsdft585 No, but all our MP's need to be working more effectively, less radical more substance.....everyone needs systems to be working more efficiently for the tax dollar to have an impact, someone suggested an audit of MP's...good idea.
@@adsdft585 that’s a great idea
Good grief...this country is so far gone now its unbelievable. Even if Nat/Act gert in, in 2023, you can imagine the hoohaa and racial claptrap that will be going on by the allegedly dissafected (((...Spain beckons....im about sick of apartheid NZ....
You think national is any different to labour? misguided.
Facts love this guy
Burn the Treaty.
Ive just heard that the witch has resigned - best news in last 6 years :))
The horse has bolted💨
Its not Wellington is Wokeington.
i warned in 1984. I saw all the signs armed with my B.A. degree. The sheep did not.He who laughs last laughs best.
Ardern's greatest achievement is the introducing and growing of Apartheid in N.Z.
and making housing even less affordable(if that's possible), increasing homelessness, increasing child poverty, increasing suicide stats, putting tens of thousands of businesses out of action, and my pet peeve, signing the tppa she promised not to.
and main stream media cater to the govt, by having their comment section turned off so the don't get negative comments, it goes to show how weak the main stream media is,
Can't have an informed public, or a counter argument.
All because Maori colonised NZ 400 years before the English.
Before the 'British' .
It seems it's too much, too late. I guess this was the intention all along. Question is; whose idea was it to engineer what is now an obviously concerted and coordinated approach to overthrow democracy in New Zealand?
Geof Mcdonald's book shadows over New Zealand has the answer.
The UN, then the final push by none other than the qween of virtue signaling, ms WEF young global leader herself
JACINDA AN BLACKROCK WHO ELSE
NZ has just announced that their klaus schwab trained UN/WEF/elitist's corporate govt PM is to retire. what was her input into all of this since she was first elected PM in 2017?
Just carrying he baton until the time to pass it on. Same as any PM, no matter the colours they fly. They are all just useful idiots to the powers that be.
Well this means that we never completed the Maori wars. So we must be in a rest period. Like the Korean war. When do we recommence. Because this paper is bringing arpartied.
Yeah Kia-Ora ur right you lost the war with us up North then y'all went crawling to our enemies then shetted on them when they were helping y'all then you fullas paid all of them a settlement in the 100's of millions your useless at making laws n fighting wars how bout you fullas STFU THE TREATY IS A FRAUD COZ YALL BREACHED IT ON THE FIRST DAY IDIOT
Already here. Health system has already had their orders.
Having undermined democracy and spent all the money, ardern resigns. What can one say.
Well said.👏👏
And turning $800,000 into tens of millions
Now jacindas got lots of free time, she should go and have a holiday in a state house in rotorua.
Amazing that Sean is so vocal on this issue, but choses to discriminate against those that are questioning the efficacy of a certain vaccine! Seems strange to me🙄
Sean is as racist as they come, that's why he lost his job, oh by the way Muriel's real colours are showing as she's as bad as Sean.
@@MrWillt100 Whatevs
Don't the courts need to decide whether Maori ceded sovereignty or not according to the ORIGINAL Treaty document? Perhaps a group could seek a declaration from the court that Maori DID in fact cede sovereignty to the Crown.
Where are the Coalition on this topic?
and No talk Of the radio spectrum being 'given' (sold) to Maori and who they are partnering with (huawei) why is no one talking about this? really puts all this treaty crap to bed if you ask me, some (most) won't see it, Be a maori cell phone shop soon, Maori internet service providers, Maroi only doctors/health systems (already in the works) Maori only supermarkets...heck here it comes
New Zealand is going down the gurgler. I'm pulling all my money out...already live overseas !
If you're in a UN aligned country, it's coming or already there.
Good to hear you are living overseas,it creates more space for me,I actually am very comfortable with things the way they are.
And now JabsInYa is quitting. So now what's coming our way, that she's getting out of the way for?
Grant Robertson 🥴
Great comment - so true, I wonder where she will pop up next!
@@rachelabbott9393
With tony blair?
LOOK AT THE ATTITUDE OF THE AVERAGE MAORI TO WORK AND EDUCATION AND PERSONAL HEALTH, WHO IS TO BLAME???????? HAS ANYONE MADE THEM HAVE THIS ATTITUDE?????????????
look at the radio spectrum they've been given a heap of it (sold) and partnered with huawei...here comes maori cellphones and isps! no ones talking about it
This,could easily push new Zealand into an apathied country,with 16% of the ethnic population suffering against the 84% which nobody wants.A divisive country normally ends up hitting the skids,it's just when & where.
Can you imagine all the nodding dogs sitting around the table smiling at how clever they are and how magnanimous to one part of NZ society they are being...sheesh!
Yes I can actually! 😂 you get that group think a lot, in gov jobs as I have witnessed. We become a very non confrontational society with people who don’t want to ‘rock the boat’ in a very kiwi fashion…she’ll be roight even when the most absurd ideas are being pushed through!
If nz were to turn into a failed socialist state, these woke highly ‘educated’ types would be the first to leave, and leave us to fix the country as they live in aus or London…
stop handing these special people billions and assets,..RECOVER it ALL.
The link was missing this morning (for a while).
There is nothing in the treaty about cogovernance. Sovereignty was only agreed for the chiefs over their own tribes.
Yes we are special and thankyou not that the Treaty has anything to do with platform
It's worth noting that at the bottom of page 6 of the document, it criticises the use of the word "Maori" as an adjective.
Perhaps strictly following THAT rule would solve this whole problem. Maori politicians, Maori leaders, Maori journalists, Maori consultants, etc, would quickly hate that.
Who gave Tangatawhenua the name Maori, 🤔
This is the real reason
We were "rusted on" Radio National Listeners and now no longer turn it on........
Sorry but how can you govern NZ based on Maori (people with mixed blood .. not just Maori) and then rest. 2 classes of citizens? A divide state / police / governing / education system etc. etc? NZ is too small and if we are ever going to compete with the world then sure we are stronger as 1 country / 1 people (regardless of ethnic race / religion / upbringing / or belief). Also, its not the Governments money - the funds come from tax payers and should not be used to fund the media to push a political narrative.
Worked not bad in South Africa until all the bleeding hearts meddled. Look at the shithole now. But then they are tribal over there.
we are not "kiwi" we are humans
Souls having a human experience💨🤍
If pls God forbid but when the elements reveal the true face of destruction, without a word of lie the indigenous will be there for you...
Well done Muriel more common sense, pity is not so common now, if this Māori bullshit is not nipped in the bud, we’re finished as a country.. Venezuela here we come and worse
Another thought... Are we heading towards the reason that inspired the Fiji coup? (that our Government opposed...)..
Yes, but the ethnic Fijians were in the minority. That would make them more like Maori.
Q: Did Queen Victoria Sign the Treaty?
Q: Did Te Kani A Takirau Sign the Treaty?
The Treaty has already been broken how many times? And now, some people want to get rid of the Treaty?
Before the Treaty was Signed by the British Governors and some Maori Chiefs (Not all, especially not the Paramount Ariki Chief Te Kani A Takirau).
New Zealand was Maori Land.
May GOD ALMIGHTY sought this all out and sweep NZ clean as He wants. And may the Truth set NZ'ders FREE and UNITE both Maori and Pakeha People.
We are one nation and one people. We New Zealanders are all one people no matter what your creed, colour, race or religion, it is citizenship that defines a New Zealander not the segment of immigrants that brought and practiced aggressive tribalism & warfare in this country before the European settlers from Northern Hemisphere arrived and established the principles of law and order in this island nation. Tribalism with all its nasty ways was not peaceful. There are numerous accounts tribal warfare, tribes conquering other tribes, killing, enslaving and far worse accounts of what happened to the members of other tribes. Tribism does not work in Africa, it does not work in the Middle East, it did not work in Zambia, Burma, South Africa its not working between Russia & Ukraine. Whether black, white, brown, yellow or red tribalism has not worked and does not work. Is regards to unity it also does not matter what color you are or what mixer of DNA runs in viens. Tribalism does not work primarily because the lowest common denominator of our human race is greed. From the beginning of the human race when it was more like an uncivilised animal kingdom when the conquers took all they could from other tribes to grow their empires. Some of mankind have matured since then, accepted the need for the rule of fair laws, developed written languages as in New Zealand by using the A to Z of the alphabet and the shared teachings of the accepted English international language. There were European settlers prior to the Treaty that those settlers, Scottish, Welsh, , French wanted to get away from the English and the French systems of governance, they were not invited to sign the treaty that various tribal chiefs signed. New Zealand needs peace more than any other time in its history since tribal warfare was common practice in this country. We have had a truely multi cultural population even before the vast number of different cultures established in New Zealand and became citizens. I personally have the blood of 4 cultural identites running through my viens, I am a adopted bitsa that was put into a NZ government Maori school grandmother
not any more
Sovereignty WAS ceded. Article One, essentially. It should not be difficult.
NZ Stockmarket will have fun.
Superannuation???
Was meant to be a partnership between Maori and Pakeha. Not a takeover by pakeha
looks like it is a co goverment is right.The maori caucus said they are meeting on saturday a day before the other caucus is meeting after jacindas resignation
The treaty means whatever the maori radicals want it to mean at the time.
And the racist, woke whiteys
Im over it sean stop adding to the fire please
Please tell me how to spell He Po a Po a? and where I can read this stuff.
In three or four generations, the majority of people in NZ will qualify as Maori under the 1974 Treaty of Waitangi Act. They may not, of course- but in theory they could band together and outvote everybody else. Then- who would be in charge?
Precisely. The Treaty fully protects both peoples. The thing is, it has not been fully respected, or implemented with that Treaty. The Waitangi Tribunal is the main voice in this field.
As for He Puapua, it was always a look into what Maori thought UNDRIP should mean for them, and luckily, it is always framed in the Treaty. It is a totally different story if Maori went with the 1835 Treaty.
For everyone else, UNDRIP clearly goes into intricate detail what it means for Article 2 of that Treaty, and where the state stands, and that document mentions it. How that is met could simply mean an Upper House that deals with that, and simply including Maori input, using Maori MPs.
This document also includes tribes totally destroyed by the New Zealand Trading Company. Which Geneva indicated was an occupation under international law, and they are a ticking time bomb that will destroy this nation in violence, if their voices are ignored much further.
At the end of the day, this mess is what happens when authority and democracy both ignored and restricted Maori over all these years since it was first signed into existence.
@@shauntempley9757 Well said- and thanks... ...I am sure there is a deal- which 80% or 90% of us will heartily support- which would take the form of a constitution... ...bid farewell to Britain, while maintaining our diplomatic and cultural links. We have no land borders- which is an asset.... I am sure there is enough goodwill buried here to achieve this.
There certainly is. It just needs to be listened to, and the public to look into what the Waitangi Tribunal has spoken on.@@Dave183
Good riddance donkey dentures 🐴🤣😂
Not the "Flavour of the Month" but the Flavour of the decade perhaps.......
Sean when you're talking, relax! Looks like you're trying to snap one off 😅
National doesn't want to know, Labour: The Only Party is ACT or possibly NZ First.
And who started all this separation in New Zealand ? We aui know dont we.
which version of the treaty are you talking about? the original one swept under the rug..or the one edited several times to sweeten up the 'chiefs' at the time who understood no english...sean talks about the 'woke' .but completley missed that , you go hard and get that government money your missing out on , lol media cracks me up all about the $
Maori knew exactly what the Treaty was. To discredit them is demeaning and arrogant. Read the 1860 Kohimaramara transcripts if you don’t believe me. In it you can see the chiefs own words of how the Treaty was going 20 years on.
This shows that the dangers of educating for some with an agenda, use the language that colonisation has bought. It’s created some untruth dissent dividing this country
It’s disturbing , destructive and it’s costing the majority who invested the most, into this country
IMO
How about we settle all outstanding Treaty Issues - then Maori have all the compensation they are satisfied with - shouldn't that be end of story!
Because in the eyes of the extremist maoris that is only a very very minute bit of reconciliation no amount of $ or brown nosing will ever be good enough
The Maori fringe don't want full and final settlement they want an ongoing gravytrain like Willy Jackson has his snout in. There is lots of good Maori too who just get on with it and dont like this nonsense spouted by a few
@@iankinnell5643 unfortunately you're probably right, but will be interesting to see how much further support they get from Labour now Jacinda will be gone from 7 Feb
Its the ' Never Ending Story' but minus the happy ending
@@jeannibarber1799
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OMG
So the danger when speaking about something else, like the Treaty of Waitangi, when you mean to say something else... is that things can go awfully bad in fraction of second. Fail. See you next semester.
same dhit as police1o 7
Use really want the majority of everything,aye that's why the indigenous don't get a chance because you always want the big piece...
Thank God Jacinda has Gone!
What a shame she went,now welcome to National/Act/NZF a true coalition of Chaos
What's wrong with 50/50,?aye?
getting OCD looking at your masonic checkerboard red wall....did the tiler get lazy and fall asleep doing the right hand side? it's all crooked , gaps,/not straight...drives my OCD nuts ...nice symbology though..the pyramid,the name, checkerboard wall(fix the right side it looks bad lol) and clearly intervewing shills
Maybe civil conflict he New Zealand
God gave Aotea-roa to indigenous not England or whoever,pls ....
Get Sir Eddie Durie on your show you lightweight
Is he the one with the pakeha knighthood.
@@derekjohnson3595 yep and went to pakeha university and became a judge in a pakeha judicial system which is exactly why he has more weight behind his position - pack of dummies
To be fair the center for political research sounds a bit dodgy too.
Have you visited it? Or just blowing hot air?
sean plunket ideals : if i pay your salary, that means i've brought your morals and paid for your silence. what a knob lol
He's New version of kapton Cook lol,he thinks he all.. being in his given position..
white wash tripe
Maori BS
Oh and Maori should be more like you aye Sean. Ever since the Pakeha arrived Maori have had to try and fit into their own country. But the Pakeha would only allow us to fit in so much so they put up the blocks to keep us in our place. Didn't want to share their knowledge with us etc. etc. That's what the Pakeha have been doing ever since they arrived.
No true.
Maori elders wanted the children to be educated.
New Zealand 🇳🇿 is blessed to be able to speak English and be understood in and amongst many Nations. How awesome is that.
I’m grateful. 😊
@@vanessamay3689 no, Māori had their language beaten out of them in native schools. You need to research true history.
@wiremu 123 Incorrect.. Maori would have been wiped out by the French or still be running around in grass skirts killing and eating each other if not for the treaty
Bollocks. How well did Maori fit with Maori of different tribes. The same is true today.
@@hoanateaika8111it was wrong that maori were punished for speaking their language, but the blame for it dying out is on maori. There was nothing to stop maori being spoken in homes and on the marae. Many cultures speak the language of the country they live in, as well as their own…
who is this random so called biased colonial Dr???
you sound a little biased yourself
Paul you are determined to maintain the attitude that the British had a right to travel the world and invade nations and take land and occupy it and resources. The very reason Maori needed a treaty so as not to be treated like flora and fauna as was the case in Australia. Take the position of an invader and consider why we are discussing a treaty with the British hundreds of years later.. The so called re-write is just an indication of Maori rights and dignity. The real radicals are kiwis who have benifitted from colonisation across the globe.
Um, I think you may find Maori wanted to stop being hunted, killed, enslaved, raped, eaten by their fellow countrymen, the easiest way to achieve this goal was to be protected under the same crown law that protected the English. Stop making stuff up.
"you are determined to maintain the attitude that the British had a right to travel the world and invade nations and take land and occupy it and resources". You could ask the exact same of pre European And post European Maori, or doesn't this fit your woke agenda?
@@loop1479 dream on. The British invaded almost every nation on earth. Pilaged and defiled communities everywhere. It was in fact the British that wanted a treaty to ensure Maori did not create an agreement with the French first.