especially in the memory section that was uthopian as hell... When the price will drop let's get ready even for more isolation! (to be fair the price is lower then expected I don't get why people are freaked out, the tech is indeed impressive, especially if it's going to work as well as shown)
The thing I do appreciate about the 2-way passthrough is that it’s a visual cue to tell the people around you if you can see them or not. That’s a thing I’ve wanted to have for AirPods Pro and Max; Some visual that tells people around me if I’m in Noise Cancellation mode or not
I'm sorry, but this made me think of a scenario where I am sitting on an airplane and some rich dude next to me slowly looks over at me with his eyes on the screen, and this image is just so fucking creepy and hilarious lmao
@@KellyBergaminiyou automatically presumed only rich people will buy this 😂 When loads of content creators are going to buy this either on credit card or something
Look at it like this too if a person knows you can't see them then they'll start doing some fucky shit so maybe we not let ppl kno we can or can't see them...thts my 2cents
I've had the oculus for a while, it was revolutionary when I got it and I loved the idea of being able to have extra screens and a nice work environment. But quickly you realise your eyes get sweaty, hot and sore from using the device. The battery life isn't good. The device is heavy on your face. You look ridiculous and aren't going to wear it outside the house. I haven't used it in months. Will this device have the same pitfalls? Perhaps it will finally crack the VR market because of the loyalty of the fans, but the price point is so high, how many people can justify the price.
This is a first gen product to market, I don’t see it taking off in the consumer space but I do see it being very competitive in the enterprise space and government space. Specifically, being a strong competitor to Microsoft HoloLens. Give it a few generations to see where it really ends up going. I was a early adopter of the 1ST gen HTC vive and a few generations later cost game down and the product got soo much better One thing that apple is doing which is massive and gets me excited is the fact you can get custom prescriptions for the lens. As someone that wears glasses, it was one of the key factors that stopped me from using VR headsets since it requires me to put in contacts among other prep work.
A big hurdle for VR is when you have guests at your house. Game consoles, TV, even phones are all acceptable to use. But someone visiting doesn't want to sit there while you're in VR. The dad at the birthday is a perfect example. That is too socially unacceptable for now
I don't know how common people like me are but I've been waiting for a usable headset like this since I was a kid. I would pay any price no matter how expensive it is for me.
As a dad one of my regrets was always videoing the significant events of my kids instead of just watching them and being present so your comment on the ‘oddness’ of capturing events with the headset really hit home
I was very surprised they used that as an example. Instead of saying you can take 3D photo of some environment, things for art reference, car you want to buy to show someone in a cool way they used the worst example - sitting in that next to your kid instead of doing something with them. Who decided people will love it?
Yeah that was bizarre. How could you be staring at a display in front of your eyes while those significant events happen. I don't care how realistic the passthrough is, you are just not "present".
@@cyjanek7818 it to get people talking. Controversy is the best advertisement. Also you come out ahead of the critics, that will point something like this out and you can normalize it early on.
Yeah I’m sure it’s weird watching a parent with glasses starring at their kid… but I’m curious to see if the experience of the user feels more genuine. Since you’re not looking at a device, like a phone, but through it…
It's the coolest thing ever how MKBHD ends up beating everyone getting this video out first, and he's just calmly speaking like he's in no rush at all. Great team over there.
it's prerecorded and scheduled for upload - he was able to do that because he was invited to try it out so he knew what would be presented and then in the end the cutters just needed to add the official material once it was released.
I must have lived under the rock because I just found your channel, subed immediately and got to say I love your chilled and very scientific approach. Also you ask the right questions in your reviews and are not biased at all. Love it man, keep up the great work!
The fact it can copy whatever you're doing on your Mac (including complex tasks like video editing) and just transfer everything to the headset is probably the thing that feels most futuristic about this. It'd be so cool to move your work from screen to screen across devices like you see in Sci-fi shows
But what utility is there if it's already on your computer? It's just mirroring bro it's on occlus already or virtual desktop. All this will do is destroy any chance of a realistic home VR market with that price tag. Apple doesn't make games so what is the point of this thing?
@@thenickseditious of course Apple doesn't make games, so the other devices companies. You didn't watch the presentation? They introduced a Chinese gamer creater, they're open for developers to create or bring their games into it. Think before speaking
@@Mrlordfaso One of my friends has a Harley Davidson motorcycle ($25k) that he takes out a couple of times a year to ride. Another has a good size motorboat, (I guess? about the same price range) that he uses about the same amount. Other friends have RV's and 4 wheelers or mc's to go with.... and of course these are not the only toys they have either just the priciest. None of these guys are rich (US standards) and not even upper middle class. One friend who is upper middle class has an airplane...
I worked on the custom chip that handles the IR LED illuminators for eye-tracking. Of course, being an outside vendor, at the time we weren’t even allowed to know it was for eye-tracking! This was almost 2-years ago and it’s cool to see it come to fruition.
I love how you keep me engaged thru ur style of commentary like I feel you excitement and the way you speak feels like a normal convo that doesn’t tire my ears
These types of devices won't become mainstream until they are a lot cheaper. However, nothing has a low price when it first comes out. The device itself seems very impressive.
I'm really glad Apple gave you a demo because you're one of few reviewers who are qualified to grasp what this is and report on it accordingly. Thank you for the insight.
he gathered little to no techinical specifications, only detailing the miniscule and irrelevant software portion, again with very little knowledge on what to actually ask about. real tech savvy youtubers are never allowed to speak about things like this until they are releaaseus such that apple can control the media 100%. he literally gave nothing other than the expected addition of their patented mems lidar, which is 10's of thousands of dollars to purchase outside of apples patents. they got an amazingly useful patent for cars keeping people alive and hoarded it for themselves, for an ipad to scan rooms for no reason at all. they had to do something with it so they half assed some vr room support and made a rediculous product to prop it up. he did very little other than act as a platform for apple to broadcast.
Thats the problem, one of your friends or family will start wearing these around everyone. Will be made fun of for a while, then someone else will want to try it. Im starting a SubStack and writing an article...Just to respond to Apple Vision, our eyes are the windows to our soul. One company will own our thoughts, this is much more of a big deal than people think. The more elegent and seamless mixed reality becomes, the more hackable we become
people have said this about vr for decades already... rinse repeat. no, it's never going to be good and you're going to regret the 3.5 grand you shell out for this glorified Virtual Boy
@@marcus_lyn Never is a very long time. Personally I think AR, not VR, is the future. Things overlayed onto the real world, inevitably there'll b personalised ads on communal billboards ala Minority Report etc. Once this tech shrinks over the decades to be on a contact lens, who wouldn't want that sort of overlay of maps, messages, internet search based on what you're looking at etc?
Great explanation. It’ll be really fun to try out and experience it that first time. Can’t imagine I’d buy one and use it a lot though, not yet anyway.
2.67M subscribers but 26 likes? (first) _Actual comment:_ *_Honestly, I don't understand how the hand gestures are convenient. It's just not familiar._*
I believe in a few years when people are getting used to it and the technology isn’t that expensive anymore, it can become a pretty normal thing to own and use in a variety of ways
I was literally dying when they showed a father recording their kid's birthday in the presentation. Imagine being a kid blowing out candles and your father is wearing digital ski goggles ffs apple 💀😭
I think the proper way to do this is to use iPhone to record the 3D video and then view it with Vision Pro, seems iPhone is close to have(if not already) a 3D video capable hardware
But that's less the fault of Apple but rather a matter of context. If Apple says "the eye-tracking is novel, the best out there and the hand tracking works well", then we'd just perceive it as the sellers advertisement, whereas when Marques says it, we're inclined to believe it. And in fact it's a false dichotomy - Apple chooses who to give test-space to, so you ought to consider Marques review as part of Apple's advertising campagne just the same.
Hi marques would you suggest this gadget for the visually impaired it seems quite viable as windows can be as large and as close to a persons eye as they need however was wondering if I could get your take on if
I have realised this earlier & I would stick to it, no background music in your videos, no sfx, no crazy fonts or graphics moving around, yet I watch them till the end. Hats off to all you & your team for such amazing content.
Question: when others are releasing foldables, Apple announced a VR headset. 1. Does that mean Apple is not planning for a foldable anytime soon? 2. What will be the future of foldables now?
@@avnash09 Foldables are a gimmick because you have to take glass, which has the property of weakening when bent, and make it not have that property. its like making water that isnt wet. All Z flips fail around the 6 month to 9 month mark, the tech isnt there yet at all.
I think this is the first iteration of it, and it will start out as gimmicky for the select few who want to buy it and be like “hey, check this out!” Eventually, as they improve the tech (like they’ve done with iPods/iPhones) and people become more familiar with it and it shrinks in size/bulkiness, more people will use it as part of their daily routine. This improvement and innovation will probably happen much faster though since apple has the ability to hire and fund the best and brightest.
This is gonna change the game for stroke victims, ALS patients, and those with muscular deficiencies. It will open up the world of computing and allow huge swaths of people to communicate for the first time.
Not sure what "huge swaths" of people can afford it at $3500 lol, but I think the internet allows huge swaths of people to communicate, at a significantly cheaper price
This will either be Apple’s biggest failure or it’ll eventually change how we use technology forever and seeing Apple’s track record, it’ll probably be the latter. So excited to see what’s next and also hoping to see the SE or Air Version of this for maybe $1599?
A cheaper model is rumored to be in development. I believe this first gen model is really only meant for developers and some rich people. I think this is the future and will go the path of the iPhone. It’s so exciting that this exists. It will encourage so many other companies to produce products like this.
Yes, you nailed the creepy feeling. While the tech is undeniably cool, Apple's presentation of it being used in day-to-day life had some weird dehumanized undertones. The part showing dad filming the family literally gave me icky feelings. Thank you for another excellent product overview that provides context and analysis well beyond the "spec sheet rehash" that is so typical elsewhere.
I’ve watched several tech TH-camrs review of this, and yours is by far the best. You really do a good job describing the experience and what it would feel like to use it. It’s so easy to get caught in the hype and excitement, but you seem balanced while still clearly explaining what was exciting and standout. There was a lot of thought and introspection in how this came together
@@boneszy he was fairly balanced considering. I was expecting some hype for the butterfly or to explain how game changing 3d video would revolutionize how we capture memories, and he was spot on talking about how awkward it would be in practice. He compared them to existing VR and AR where Apple has a way of doing something that others are doing while acting like it’s totally unique. What Apple does is implement better, and the eye tracking is amazing, so not surprised he was a hyped about that
@@opinionated_take 6DOF means in a nutshell - 6 Degrees of freedom - Basically how the element ( also you ) moves inside a 3D space is being tracked and fully used. What we just saw is basically a person just sitting and doing something on a 2D flat screen just that the screen is projected in front of you through the headset. 6 DOF would be if the person would move in that space based on his headposition ( X Y axis and X, Z axis) and rotation. Its complicated but I hope I could clarify it to you :x
For the 1st Gen, as a rational consumer, I think I just gonna wait and see for the next gen to see how it goes. Anyway, the demostration is freaking stunning. The Future is now, and it's really expensive lol...
@@MB_speaking Anyway, the pricing is too high, and only one product. Because it's 1st gen, I don't think it's gonna be a big success. IMO it's just experimental.
I'm a 90's kid and I remember a teacher showing us that you could change the color of the screen on a Macintosh II that used a floppy disk by using hot keys and it absolutely blew our minds. Now we've got headsets that work by pinching the air. I keep forgetting that there's been 40 years of advancement.
Knowing where we are headed, I don't expect much to change. Braindrain, worsening economies, billionaires destroying the middle-class, tin foil hatters having political power and putting us in a worse readiness for the next big deadly supervirus, psychopathic leaders looking for a reason to throw a nuke, and media in general pushing everyone to isolate more (maybe good reason like with all the public shootings in the US). Companies are earning more but distributing less, technology is getting more complex and difficult to adopt, our netsec sectors are becoming less effective, and the reliability on mass produced products are creating huge problems since mass manufacturing quality is getting worse and worse everywhere. These big companies cannot keep up and manage producing for the demand without going to early AGI management systems that are still not reliable, and they are slowly pushing towards vacuuming up every penny of profit, pushing everyone under slave labor, and then leaving to go live in their Elysium-inspired fantasy land billionaire bubble.
I like the direction we are headed. I can’t STAND all these humans everywhere I go. We are WAY too over populated. Since I don’t really use technology it’ll be nice when everyone is always in their homes on the couch in their own little worlds. Then I can go enjoy nature and the outside world and not have billions of savage ass humans everywhere I go. Selfish? Maybe. But since humans can’t seem to get their reproduction under control I’ll take this work around!
You get it. That’s exactly what this. All the complainers will have one by gen 3. Remember when the watch first came out? Remember when the iPad first came out? Remember when the AirPods first came out? Now everyone has all these devices and want them like crack cocaine. The next 10 years is gonna be amazing for tech.
@@seanharris140 You really think this will be popular? I cant imagine ppl enjoying something this size glued to their eyeballs and most of the time on a cable.
The one thing that stood out for me after watching Apple's release video was that ridiculous use case of the dad recording a 3D video of his kids. I had the exact same reaction that Marques had: really? there's this precious moment unfolding right in front of you and you're choosing to experience it from behind an opaque plastic helmet? It's like how people pay hundreds of dollars to go to a concert and choose to view it through their smartphone display, only worse.
That's pretty normal for most peoples childhoods though, Id assume. Weather its a camcorder, headset, phone, etc, there's usually always one parent (typically the father) in the back filming everything, so they have a memory they can look back on later, at school plays, birthdays, etc. I'm actually shocked people find that strange.
Some people have spent their entire childhood being filmed by their parents in a way of another, nowadays they're even being posted online without their consent, so this headset in particular doesn't look like such a big deal in comparison
I just realized after finishing the video that 95 percent of the video there was no background music. I just think it proves that your explanation and analysis are very well explained and that it doesn't need music to make the video " better ".
My biggest question was about how multiple Vision Pro devices will interact with each other. What happens when two of these are together in the same room? Can you work on the same project together, in the same space? Can you have a 3D model of your friend sit on the couch next to you and watch the same movie together? How about when they're apart--can there be a scenario where you go to your friend's room across the country, you see each other, like in VRChat, and you can sit and have a conversation?
Finishing every video with "Thanks for watching" very grateful and very humble of you. It has been a pleasure to take take in your knowledge and information and thanks for that. Many of us will make a buying decision based on the unbaised info you provide here and we number in the millions.
M3 version will be the one to get whenever it comes. If it has hardware accelerated raytracing like 15 pro it will look absolutely phenomenal. Unreal engine will also work on vision pro, we are in for some truly amazing time in tech.
I think the key thing about the "two-way passthrough" creepy eyes is that, despite its uncanny valley potential, it very clearly communicates to *other people* that you can see them. It intuitively communicates that, despite the fact that i'm wearing a headset, im still able to have a conversation with you. With any other VR headset, having the headset on is basically saying "dont talk to me" It doesn't completely solve the VR isolation problem, but I can see it making a huge difference for using the headset at home or around others, even if it's kinda weird at first.
But the problem is its such a complicated solution when the easiest solution is to just remove the head set. Also, i have a feeling most people are gonna ask to person to remove it when talking to them. Its feels like its equivalent to a person hold a phone to the ear and saying "don't worry, I'm listening to you"
“Foundational to Apple Vision is that you’re not isolated from other people, they can see you and you can see them” Feels like a dig on what Meta was trying to achieve with the Metaverse 😂
It was my first concern... They are just addressing people's discomfort with being 'disconnected' from reality but deceiving consumers into normalizing this product. Not a dig at metaverse, more addressing a massive backlash that meta received because it was a problem for their product offering
I would love to get this for my disabled cousin when it comes out. I don't even mind the price tag (anything for people with disabilities is expensive unfortunately). He uses Apple's ecosystem because they have great accessibility options for someone one-armed and partially deaf like him. This would make his life just that more convenient.
Wow, that battery life is a deal breaker isn't it? Am I right in thinking that the headset has zero battery at all - you would have to put the device to sleep in order to swap out the battery? Curious to see if Apple would offer a 'power bundle' with two extra battery packs for an extra $500 - and that propriatary cable, good old Apple. Alternatively, everyone's going to be buying 20ft USB-C cables and creating trip hazards everywhere... ...Oh wait, the deal breaker is $3499 isn't it?
if you know anything about these kinda headsets, this is way cheaper than expected. There are PC VR headset with way less tech selling for 2-3k... This is a lovely push in the MR/VR/AR industry! Features we see here have been wanted for the last 10 years in the VR community. Trust me, I've been in VR since the Oculus Developer Kit 1 in 2013 I was 12 at the time The future is looking sweet for this tech! I may not get Apples headset, but now companies will want to compete and bring us an equivalent experience for a cheaper price, that is the bigger picture for us consumers!
oh no, a fanboi is upset lol I paid over 2k for my very first pair that were complete junk 6 months they released a better version cheaper. You cry about the battery pack which the headset does much more and better than any other headset on the market so ya it's going to be pricy. You should be happy cause this will only make other companies that do VR step up their game and make something better.
As kids we all joked about this happening, now it’s actually happening. This is next level futuristic type stuff. Kinda surreal when you think about it.
This is the kind of product that gets me so hyped up. Not just because it's super innovative but because you can tell the designers and engineers at Apple have worked extremely hard to package an insane amount of hardware into such a compact and elegant device. Directional audio, extremely high resolution visuals, eye tracking, an intuitive hand-based interface?!! It's so impressive that they pulled this off and innovated well beyond what their competitors have done. Kudos to the team at Apple that made this happen - super inspiring work.
While I was never bothered by the battery pack, It's grown on me to the point where I really like it. The cord reminds me of the classic earbuds look, and personally it feels kind of fashionable. I hope they keep this design choice; the less weight in the headset the better!
Now you point it out, it is actually pretty horrible to see the dad there - wearing the pro vision goggle ski-wear - recording the birthday cake part and his family not being able to see his face properly. There is always the risk with tech, where in an attempt to 'connect', it can actually get in the way and disconnect, creating an unnecessary block to experiencing real life in the present moment.
I am sure the next iPhone will include stereoscopic lenses to allow you to record 3D video/pics for viewing in Apple's newest headset. It will be another way to diffentiate it from this year's model.
That’s where our society is headed. Even when phones came, before that, people used to just eat when the food arrived as opposed to now, photoshoot for the dish.
they should make the outer screen customizable so you can put like googly eyes on the outside display so people will laugh when they look at you. or maybe something like pit viper sunglasses could be displayed on the front for that cheesy scifi look.
It's an isolating product that further removes us from in person contact. It appears you would get an incredibly immersive experience, but it would be just for you. My thought is, if you had an incredible experience, you would want to share that with others. That's why big screen tvs are so popular. Bottom line, I don't see the point of further isolating ourselves for self pleasure.
@@efaciler2462 That may be true in larges numbers - yes, but we have to continue to try to reach out to others. Fews problems are solved by deploying silence and inaction.
I feel like the best part of apple releasing a VR headset is it's gonna lead to much higher software support to all VR devices, Apple is great at popularizing certain tech and I feel like more componys are actually going to put the time in to develop more software. The quests biggest problem is the extremely lackluster appstore with really high prices (understandably, VR apps and games are expensive to develop for right now).
Yeah... at 3500$ dont expect many developers to jump on that bandwagon. Price alone makes it unatracctive to a lot of potentional apps, that need masses of users to be useful.
Not gonna lie, I'm super impressed on how they are delivering this technology. I wish the price was in a lower price point, but I understand why it's expensive.
For one it's not Meta, so it's not subsidized by some ad and data-selling business. And it also has the same chip that powers their Macs, plus a new R1 chip. And on top of that, it's a completely new device from Apple so there's the newness + Apple tax. So I ALMOST can feel the price tag is justified. I think $2500 would've been much more fair.
A completely whole new entire construction of next-generation interface into system. brilliant. if this goes into success well-integrated into our used daily "applications", to the future AI "applications", and much affordable than this one, it's would be a shock, like a ago, the IPhone entering into the information exchange method of society. like elonmusk saying, a new system into classical applications and spaces, making a step forward to it's form of information exchanging, yeah not literally breathtaking yet but if successfully integrated, it will be such brilliant breakthrough.
yeah crazy to see smartphones from early 2010s to now! I wonder what the vr/ar even the ai will be like in the 2030s, also to consider the more and more companies pursuing this technological advancements compared to 10+ years ago.
If you haven't owned VR yet, you can get Oculus quest 2 for like $300. Its very similar technology for a fraction of the price and still gonna wow most people when they try it for the first time.
@Overshot it will wow you and then you'll put it in a closet to gather dust because there's definitly not enough things to enjoy with vr. The only thing I might enjoy is resident evil and that isn't enough
I actually think the strategy to start with an extremely premium product will work out here. First priority is to make the most perfect VR/AR experience imaginable, and once that's done, worry about getting costs down and getting it to the masses. Everyone else is working the problem in the other direction and it's not really working.
But do people want this? We had the same with 3D Television. First models where highly expensive, the budget line later had a very short hype, but in the end nobody used it and short after it was abandoned from newer tv sets again. I think it's the same about VR/AR. It's just inconvenient in daily life and at work places, and does not offer anything that is better than what the current technology gives you. In the end, it's only a screen glued to your eyes and software that you already use on your "ancient" computer. And i doubt people will want to deal with the pain that you get when you even move less than already. Just using your eyes and fingers will weaken your body and that causes pain, what will make people keep distance from these items. Life is so much more than IT Nerds with unlimited money believe it is. Money aside, the nerds are just nerds, observing life, but not understanding, nor truly living it.
@@lars5288That’s the point of this headset. To bring new experiences to the masses. This first gen product won’t do that. It’s lineage will. This is simply a proof of concept. People said the same thing about early smartphones. Those were for nerds too. Now? Everyone has one. This could be different, but time will tell. Keep an open mind.
Agree completely. Start by showing what’s possible and then give options that take features off the list, all still grounded in the initial premium product so it feels like you’re getting a deal when you’re buying the cheaper model (which will still be a hefty chunk of change). Besides, people are used to Apple stuff being very expensive. It’s a proven part of their brand and business strategy. You won’t see an Apple product in the bargain bin.
yeah, if the rolled it out with zero content like allot of VR/Ar hardware that's when it wont matter. I feel like VR movies aren't going to land it, but live sports yes. Still who and what for.
This is the first video I've watched of Marcus, and i have to say your attention to the details of every product you review and the time you spend analysing every aspect is impressive - you earned another Subscriber 👍🏾
If a company can find a way to fit this tech into something only slightly larger than a regular pair of glasses then I could see this tech becoming the next mandatory piece of tech like smartphones did
That “find a way“ is not going to happen on anyone’s first-generation product. You gotta start somewhere. Year by year, this will gradually evolve into that over 10-15 years.
Best MKBHD video in a whole. Marcques’ face was lit up while taking about it. It was really the passion for tech shining through which has been missing with non innovating phones. He was honest, brutal and thoughtful. Loved it
when got paid by thousands of dollars from apple to do sponsored content bit as a tech masterpiece and seeing people like you falling to the bait he went for lighten up my face too. typical lol
@@paoooba he is the most unbiased tech reviewer in TH-cam tbh unlike iJustine which loves everything Apple regardless so much so she even got excited unboxing the overpriced Apple microfiber cleaning cloth 😂
Well honestly, first time I listen to one of your video. Clear, sharp, interesting, relevant, great job! Only thing... no need to ask to subscribe... as this should come naturally from just watching high quality content like yours. So I subscribed ;)
5 years is probably way to short, since We don’t have clear enough screens for people to want to wear them at all times. Maybe 10 more likely 15 but even more likely never, because google glass had huge push back. And so did the ray bans
It has its pitfalls right now but it really excites me as to what the tech will be like in 5-10 years. Apple entering VR/AR could really do stuff to this market
@@dropsey3007 are you happy going around hating anyone that is praising Apple for some of their products?,fanboys like you honestly needs to go out sometimes because it is honestly embarrassing and sad that some people act like you
So now my main question is can you sync up to other Vision Pros? Say you want to watch a movie together. This would also be genius for watching movies with people not there with you.
The part that is most appealing to me is that if you're on a flight or something, you can just block everyone out of your vision. That would be great for anyone who get uncomfortable around tons of people.
To me, this felt like the initial Apple Watch reveal. They gave it so many options of what it CAN be, then after a few years, they found out that people used it primarily for fitness and focused on that Edit: looking back at that keynote, there were features like glances, Digital Touch, those weird animated emojis, Force Touch etc that they kinda just threw out in the presentation like “hey, here’s an idea” then got rid of those features a few years later when no one used them
I'm curious who their customer-base for this is going to end up being for them to be able to do that. I want this to succeed but the price, which I do think is likely appropriate for what it is, is going to limit its audience obviously.
The Pro part of it was what hit me and I've only seen MKBHD actually say the same thing. It seems obvious they'll release an SE or lower end eventually once their manufacturing costs or whatever get lesser and build gets more refined. In v3 or so. The future is exciting. That's what got me excited about this product. Not like it's perfect. But the promise of what this will push others to do as well
The SE version without computing power (only basic notifications etc.) focused on content in conjunction with an Apple TV + remote, could be an idea. 100" TV with spacial audio.....
I don’t think we need to worry about no one buying it. There are tons of early adopter types with money to burn who can’t wait to get their hands on this, and Apple knows it.
I mean, the finger clicking and window browsing stuff is used almost the same in the Hololens for almost 10 years now. Hololens doesn't have eye tracking, you have to reach to the 3D Position of the window you wanna click in or use a pointer. So it's just the eye tracking from Sony's Playstation VR2 that makes it so you can click wherever you look
I have a 6th grade student with ALD that reads lips to understand what people are saying in class. We have a voice to text app on an iPad, but I'd love to see integrated captioning, with the AR, so he could still focus on the speaker without looking away to read the iPad. What I see here are possibilities! Love it Thanks for sharing.-Mark
For some reason I genuinely love how the battery is on a chord… it makes it seem retro… and it WILL look pretty retro in 10 years when the design has been improved. It looks like some old obscure gaming system
@@Patman128 true, similar to console controllers, imagine have like 2-3 battery packs charging at all times, then when it's about to die you just switch them out. Sounds so much more easier than having to recharge the whole headset.
I can see this being cool with a keyboard paired to it - allowing you to work as if you're on multiple large monitors while travelling on a plane for example. Would love to see it natively able to run CAD design software, and then view your work in a very convincing 3D VR environment.
@@LaurieMB Nah you get controllers included but it has hand tracking and you 👌 to select and scroll and you can pair physical keyboards and use voice commands
Who the fuck work on a airplane bro just rest and then work with your laptop. Do you think you are gonna become like robot in productivity just by wearing a scam vr with some cool 4k advertisement. I dont see any good in these augmented reality stuff, it will just damage our society more than it is already damaged. If you just ask yourself the reason why switching from phone and pc to these vr you will realize that it just encourage lazyness
Pretty impressed for a Gen 1. I remember the first Apple Watch and how far they’ve come with the Ultra. This Apple Vision Pro in its 4 or 5th generation is going to be insane.
I’m happy you said the thing about the 3D recordings. That’s spot on. Apple is marketing this as a product that assists in connecting to those around you but the idea of that dad having the headset on was just straight up depressing.
Yeah, because everyone at those kind of events totally isn't waving a phone in front of their eyes anyway. There's plenty of criticisms to leverage against this thing, but firstly why would you even need to wear it to record, and secondly the "it's bad for our face-to-face relationships" ship has long since sailed.
@@tahunuva4254 why wouldn’t you need to wear it to record? Also, it’s much easier to record things with your phone and still have your own vision unmediated. Also… has it sailed? I don’t think that’s true. My comments (and the video’s comments) on the sad nature of the 3d photo function are a shared sentiment right now which evidences the fact that it most certainly has not sailed.
@@skylergerald3546 Burden of proof is on you. If you think there's a reason you'd have to be wearing it, instead of holding it like any regular camera, then don't play coy, state it.
@@skylergerald3546 Im sorry but I gotta agree with Tahu here. I've seen people recording and faces planted into their iphones and ipads during big celebrations like a birthday party and they are essentially watching the whole thing through their screens. At least one you won't be as focused on getting everything in the frame and people will be able to see your eyes. It's the same if not better than it is now.
@@RedNuii I mean, I’m all for just not recording things at all and being tech free in experiencing life. Best practice perhaps is being smartphone free and just living your life in moments like these. Either way… it just seems to me that wearing a bulky headset seems moreso on the “removed from the moment” end of the spectrum imo
I feel like this is the push VR needed. Apple feels like it will take it to that next level by making the other companies bring new improvements to compete with them Edit to the angry people: A lot of you seem mad at the price but this isn’t aimed to be some kids birthday gift like the oculus quest (unless they rich) this wants to be something greater something revolutionary. When VR is perfected (still some years away) it will change the way we access the internet. Plus oculus quest is just VR if I’m correct Apple is making a VR/AR mixture headset. The only other AR headset I’m aware of is the Microsoft Holo2 and I believe it’s priced at the exact same price. The quest pro seems like more of a budget version and it’s what I would end up getting until I’d see these headsets reach a settling point
Let’s be honest, the rest of the market will follow suite like they did with the smartphone. I’m unsurprisingly surprised it took this long to make this reality but it’s true about what they say about Apple, they won’t bring a product to market until they can bring the best to the table. Still a bit disheartened it isn’t more streamlined like google glass.
Being able to walk around child hood homes and have memories of it would be amazing. Also real-estate, being able to do a house tour in vr before you even go to the property would be cool. They have some of that but it’s on a 2d screen or not very main stream.
I cant afford it and I'm also not a huge Apple fan though I can appreciate how good some of their tech is, especially UI/UX. But this is the first product in a really long time that actually made me excited. Not exactly because of this specific device, I'm sure it comes with loads of little problems that need to be solved before it is convenient without major drawbacks. I'm mostly excited because this is the first presentation of this AR/VR tech where everything is coherent and neatly integrated and I can tell how this will eventually be part of daily life and provide a cohesive experience. Depending on how they go about some aspects of it, I can definitely see myself dropping my smartphone/laptop in favor of this for most things that I do with them (e.g. browsing, reading, watching videos, videocalls). Only real exceptions would be coding for which I need a proper keyboard and messaging/navigation with my phone while on the road. Both can be done on significantly cheaper non-apple devices.
If Apple can build that 3D video memory feature into iPhones and iPads, meaning you can record the videos with a handheld device and then use the headset just for viewing, that could really be an amazing feature. Seems pretty easy to just add a 4th twin camera to the iPhone if you ask me. Edit: CALLED IT BOYS
Every iPhone and new iPad sold today has LIDAR sensors on the back for this exact purpose. Of course you can record 3D video. Stage Manager on Mac? Suddenly makes sense considering the ability to switch windows will be easier using Vision Pro. Apple has building towards this product for YEARS. For most people the LIDAR sensor was never used and Apple didn’t include it to just look at shitty 3D props on a coffee table. They can use the sensor information to combine all two/three existing cameras to render the 3D video.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we see this. Most (all?) iPhones are physically large enough to have the right interocular distance between lenses, and with the same image stabilization that we get on our iPhone videos now, you wouldn’t have to worry about excessive shake.
Agreed about the "wearing the headset to take 3d videos" thing. I wouldn't be surprised if future iPhone's camera setup will be used to take stereoscopic videos/images that can then be played on the headset!
Do you remember when wireless earbuds were weird? It used to look like people were talking to themselves or talking to you, when they weren’t? New tech ALWAYS SEEMS WEIRD till it is submerged into the day to day.
As much as it’s a complete product, it’s not necessarily a finished product. Generation 0 and 1 products especially in tech are pretty much always a test to see what works and what doesn’t too improve on in the future. I think as people use the vision pro and as data is gathered Apple will improve on it, and then reduce the price, maybe slim it down a bit, have it weigh less, more features etc
Yeah. I cant see any practical application for this right now, especially one thats worth 3500$. But as VR and AR progress past being just for gaming and begin being incorporated more and more into our daily lives, I can see these eventually becoming standard household items in the way laptops or TVs are now.
As a VR enthusiast starting with the Vive in 2017, I'm a bit lukewarm on the headset itself but excited to see tech giants making major investments to advance the AR/VR space.
I'm less than lukewarm on this dogshit, no controller option (YET lol it's apple were talking about) I could buy myself and 4 friends a valve index for this price! Why are people calling this revolutionary? Where is the other $2500 going, the outside oled display you can't even see while wearing?
@@TheKevphil I’d say 80-90% of the keynote focused on content consumption & family moments, only a small mention of productivity using offices in multi-screen environment, which makes the price tag bizarre… like how many average consumer is going to spend $3.5k to even try it? Even as someone who owns 10+ VR/AR glasses since 2017 and probably spent $10k on it total (custom built PC included) on VR/AR, I had an “oof” moment when I saw the price tag. Physical Apple store can do the convincing through demo but even then, the target audience is really small.
I kind of agree about the camera dad thing being weird, except that it’s already been affecting kids’ memories of foundational years - I remember my dad “hiding” behind a camcorder (as it felt to me), where recording it was more important than experiencing it. And that wasn’t new for VHS either… so I dunno. It’s not exactly great to make it even worse, but it’s not creating a whole new problem.
Good point. I also think people are too focused on how 'silly' the goggles look.The best usecases will be dedicated VR: training, simulations, games, virtual meetings (situations where you're fully immersed and not concerned about how you look with the headset on). And that's why it's not an amazing breakthrough, because many companies are already working on VR systems. Apple is not the first-mover in this space and competition will be stiff.
Everyone lives their lives through the viewfinder on their phone during memorable moments. Just enjoy your moment and stop worrying about sharing it with everyone else. Couldn't agree more with your comment.
@@GusFromDaysPast But we shouldn't live our lives through a viewfinder - and scientific studies show how badly that kind of thing is really affecting our connections with others. The most important and meaningful events of our lives are becoming disconnected.
If the VR headset can read the hand signs correctly there are so many possibilities for the gaming industry. Along with that wirelessly connecting your headset to the PC is a must. This could improve it's possibilities so much.
Not gonna lie I'm getting the strongest "real life Black Mirror" vibes I've ever had from this and it feels absolutely surreal
Also, Watching a guy take a photo of his kids playing, while wearing ski goggles in the presentation might be the bleakest thing I’ve ever seen.
This is as small as Apple could manage for now. I'm sure it will be refined in future versions
especially in the memory section that was uthopian as hell... When the price will drop let's get ready even for more isolation! (to be fair the price is lower then expected I don't get why people are freaked out, the tech is indeed impressive, especially if it's going to work as well as shown)
It's The Entire History of You.
yeah they will remotely activate the hidden c4 charges in them and kill everyone.
can't wait for them to pause ads when you close your eyes
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Bruh, I would just remove the headset at that point 😆
@@SasukexMinato the adverts would pause until you put it back on, Black Mirror shi
Nah blud getting more creative than Apple themselves😭😭
That’s already in the works.
This is a really great overview of Apple Vision Pro.
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The thing I do appreciate about the 2-way passthrough is that it’s a visual cue to tell the people around you if you can see them or not. That’s a thing I’ve wanted to have for AirPods Pro and Max; Some visual that tells people around me if I’m in Noise Cancellation mode or not
I'm sorry, but this made me think of a scenario where I am sitting on an airplane and some rich dude next to me slowly looks over at me with his eyes on the screen, and this image is just so fucking creepy and hilarious lmao
@@KellyBergaminiyou automatically presumed only rich people will buy this 😂
When loads of content creators are going to buy this either on credit card or something
Look at it like this too if a person knows you can't see them then they'll start doing some fucky shit so maybe we not let ppl kno we can or can't see them...thts my 2cents
@@kiidkif2009 I wouldn't want to be around people in a public setting completely immersed in VR anyway
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I've had the oculus for a while, it was revolutionary when I got it and I loved the idea of being able to have extra screens and a nice work environment. But quickly you realise your eyes get sweaty, hot and sore from using the device. The battery life isn't good. The device is heavy on your face. You look ridiculous and aren't going to wear it outside the house. I haven't used it in months. Will this device have the same pitfalls? Perhaps it will finally crack the VR market because of the loyalty of the fans, but the price point is so high, how many people can justify the price.
have you seen the quest 3?
Its absurd. But sets the stage for brands to set more competitive prices.
This is a first gen product to market, I don’t see it taking off in the consumer space but I do see it being very competitive in the enterprise space and government space.
Specifically, being a strong competitor to Microsoft HoloLens. Give it a few generations to see where it really ends up going.
I was a early adopter of the 1ST gen HTC vive and a few generations later cost game down and the product got soo much better
One thing that apple is doing which is massive and gets me excited is the fact you can get custom prescriptions for the lens. As someone that wears glasses, it was one of the key factors that stopped me from using VR headsets since it requires me to put in contacts among other prep work.
A big hurdle for VR is when you have guests at your house. Game consoles, TV, even phones are all acceptable to use. But someone visiting doesn't want to sit there while you're in VR.
The dad at the birthday is a perfect example. That is too socially unacceptable for now
I don't know how common people like me are but I've been waiting for a usable headset like this since I was a kid. I would pay any price no matter how expensive it is for me.
As a dad one of my regrets was always videoing the significant events of my kids instead of just watching them and being present so your comment on the ‘oddness’ of capturing events with the headset really hit home
I was very surprised they used that as an example. Instead of saying you can take 3D photo of some environment, things for art reference, car you want to buy to show someone in a cool way they used the worst example - sitting in that next to your kid instead of doing something with them.
Who decided people will love it?
First I was here first in the comments.
Yeah that was bizarre. How could you be staring at a display in front of your eyes while those significant events happen. I don't care how realistic the passthrough is, you are just not "present".
@@cyjanek7818 it to get people talking. Controversy is the best advertisement. Also you come out ahead of the critics, that will point something like this out and you can normalize it early on.
Yeah I’m sure it’s weird watching a parent with glasses starring at their kid… but I’m curious to see if the experience of the user feels more genuine. Since you’re not looking at a device, like a phone, but through it…
It's the coolest thing ever how MKBHD ends up beating everyone getting this video out first, and he's just calmly speaking like he's in no rush at all. Great team over there.
Fr And it's really paying off for him, 6.8 million views in 16 hours and he just hit 17 million subscribers
well, it's one of the very few people invited to the demo that acrually has tried other vr headsets and knows what their talking about
it's prerecorded and scheduled for upload - he was able to do that because he was invited to try it out so he knew what would be presented and then in the end the cutters just needed to add the official material once it was released.
@@PizzaRobin I don't think so. He was updating live on Twitter at the event.
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I must have lived under the rock because I just found your channel, subed immediately and got to say I love your chilled and very scientific approach. Also you ask the right questions in your reviews and are not biased at all. Love it man, keep up the great work!
The fact it can copy whatever you're doing on your Mac (including complex tasks like video editing) and just transfer everything to the headset is probably the thing that feels most futuristic about this. It'd be so cool to move your work from screen to screen across devices like you see in Sci-fi shows
The processing might still occur on the Mac but just display on the headset like an AirPlay display.
But what utility is there if it's already on your computer? It's just mirroring bro it's on occlus already or virtual desktop. All this will do is destroy any chance of a realistic home VR market with that price tag. Apple doesn't make games so what is the point of this thing?
Stop getting hyped bro. It’s apple. It’s just a glorified screen.
@@thenickseditious of course Apple doesn't make games, so the other devices companies. You didn't watch the presentation? They introduced a Chinese gamer creater, they're open for developers to create or bring their games into it. Think before speaking
Kidneys for sale !!!! kidneys for sake !!!
"It's a rich person's toy, and a developer's muse." Very well stated.
I guess it depends on what your definition of rich is... I know a lot of middle class folks who have many toys, some of which are way more than $3500.
@@-mike-8134 really like wich toys?
@@Mrlordfaso Boats, ATV's a lot of stuff that really will last longer than this will to be honest but still they are just toys too.
@@Mrlordfaso One of my friends has a Harley Davidson motorcycle ($25k) that he takes out a couple of times a year to ride. Another has a good size motorboat, (I guess? about the same price range) that he uses about the same amount. Other friends have RV's and 4 wheelers or mc's to go with.... and of course these are not the only toys they have either just the priciest. None of these guys are rich (US standards) and not even upper middle class. One friend who is upper middle class has an airplane...
@@michaelcatlett8979 you just compared a boat and an atv to a VR/AR headset.
I worked on the custom chip that handles the IR LED illuminators for eye-tracking. Of course, being an outside vendor, at the time we weren’t even allowed to know it was for eye-tracking! This was almost 2-years ago and it’s cool to see it come to fruition.
Ahahaha epic
It's cool you were made to work on a project without knowing how your work was going to be used????
amazing job my friend !
yeah sure pal. and i’m bill gates
Me too!
I worked on the m2 chip variebt, the IR and the iphone. I also worked on the space x ship, and ninebot scooter motor.
I love how you keep me engaged thru ur style of commentary like I feel you excitement and the way you speak feels like a normal convo that doesn’t tire my ears
These types of devices won't become mainstream until they are a lot cheaper. However, nothing has a low price when it first comes out. The device itself seems very impressive.
Nothing apple sells will ever have a low price new or otherwise.
it's a pro model. i think we should wait a year or two.
I bought a second hand iphone 10 for £50, ur point is invalid
iPhones used to cost a few hundred dollars now it’s a grand.
Ok..... So what? This is the same story for just about every tech product
I'm really glad Apple gave you a demo because you're one of few reviewers who are qualified to grasp what this is and report on it accordingly. Thank you for the insight.
You will own nothing and be happy in a pod with vr 😊
@@Anees- it's literally just a computer/phone on your face
@@Anees- sounds cool ngl
*apple fan
he gathered little to no techinical specifications, only detailing the miniscule and irrelevant software portion, again with very little knowledge on what to actually ask about. real tech savvy youtubers are never allowed to speak about things like this until they are releaaseus such that apple can control the media 100%. he literally gave nothing other than the expected addition of their patented mems lidar, which is 10's of thousands of dollars to purchase outside of apples patents. they got an amazingly useful patent for cars keeping people alive and hoarded it for themselves, for an ipad to scan rooms for no reason at all. they had to do something with it so they half assed some vr room support and made a rediculous product to prop it up. he did very little other than act as a platform for apple to broadcast.
What’s crazy is in about 5-10 years, this will look and work like a first gen iPhone looks like to us now
Thats the problem, one of your friends or family will start wearing these around everyone. Will be made fun of for a while, then someone else will want to try it. Im starting a SubStack and writing an article...Just to respond to Apple Vision, our eyes are the windows to our soul. One company will own our thoughts, this is much more of a big deal than people think. The more elegent and seamless mixed reality becomes, the more hackable we become
people have said this about vr for decades already... rinse repeat. no, it's never going to be good and you're going to regret the 3.5 grand you shell out for this glorified Virtual Boy
@@marcus_lyn Never is a very long time.
Personally I think AR, not VR, is the future. Things overlayed onto the real world, inevitably there'll b personalised ads on communal billboards ala Minority Report etc. Once this tech shrinks over the decades to be on a contact lens, who wouldn't want that sort of overlay of maps, messages, internet search based on what you're looking at etc?
@@Mububban23 exactly. The rate at which vr has been growing over the years I wouldn’t be surprised, especially with apple jumping in with AR.
Yeah, it's like an 8-track!...for your FACE!
The immersive recordings are going to be a heartbreaking but at the same time beautiful re-experience of those past loved ones.
Marquis is really the best in this stuff. The way he explains everything in a calming way with subtle jokes is second to none.
eh Linus Tech Tips definitely better but he's good
Lif Sony made this, he was going to say people won't be able to use it because is too high tech and no reason for customers to learn lol...
Agreed. Everything is well explained, you don't really need to see a review anywhere else.
Thought we were conspiracy theorists..
Hop off that pee pee bro
Great explanation. It’ll be really fun to try out and experience it that first time. Can’t imagine I’d buy one and use it a lot though, not yet anyway.
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*_Honestly, I don't understand how the hand gestures are convenient. It's just not familiar._*
I believe in a few years when people are getting used to it and the technology isn’t that expensive anymore, it can become a pretty normal thing to own and use in a variety of ways
you have to buy it ;)
This is spot on
@@random_person618 his subscribers are back home in India.. But the count will increase - it has only been 16m and 86 likes already.
I was literally dying when they showed a father recording their kid's birthday in the presentation. Imagine being a kid blowing out candles and your father is wearing digital ski goggles ffs apple 💀😭
Lol 😂
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I think the proper way to do this is to use iPhone to record the 3D video and then view it with Vision Pro, seems iPhone is close to have(if not already) a 3D video capable hardware
America is so high tech
Thanks!
Aww thanks!
You sold this Gadget waay better than Apple did. I honestly want it now!
agreed!
I'm at 45 seconds in and I agree 😂
But that's less the fault of Apple but rather a matter of context. If Apple says "the eye-tracking is novel, the best out there and the hand tracking works well", then we'd just perceive it as the sellers advertisement, whereas when Marques says it, we're inclined to believe it. And in fact it's a false dichotomy - Apple chooses who to give test-space to, so you ought to consider Marques review as part of Apple's advertising campagne just the same.
Hi marques would you suggest this gadget for the visually impaired it seems quite viable as windows can be as large and as close to a persons eye as they need however was wondering if I could get your take on if
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Aint gonna cap that DmvNerds hit different
frfr they gave me my summer back!
Yeah Marques just knows how to explain stuff.
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I have realised this earlier & I would stick to it, no background music in your videos, no sfx, no crazy fonts or graphics moving around, yet I watch them till the end. Hats off to all you & your team for such amazing content.
Question: when others are releasing foldables, Apple announced a VR headset.
1. Does that mean Apple is not planning for a foldable anytime soon?
2. What will be the future of foldables now?
Because the product is crazy bro
@@oOgreenpoisonOo Indeed 🫶
@@avnash09 Foldables are a gimmick because you have to take glass, which has the property of weakening when bent, and make it not have that property. its like making water that isnt wet. All Z flips fail around the 6 month to 9 month mark, the tech isnt there yet at all.
@@schizofennec tbh its not actual glass by some kind of plastic
I think this is the first iteration of it, and it will start out as gimmicky for the select few who want to buy it and be like “hey, check this out!” Eventually, as they improve the tech (like they’ve done with iPods/iPhones) and people become more familiar with it and it shrinks in size/bulkiness, more people will use it as part of their daily routine. This improvement and innovation will probably happen much faster though since apple has the ability to hire and fund the best and brightest.
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@@Sugaryn0vAwhats funny?
Or it just smashes right out the gate and it’s epic af. That’s what I’m hoping for even if it’s less then likely
@@bangedmybro"hire the best and brightest".... yeah Samsung
This is gonna change the game for stroke victims, ALS patients, and those with muscular deficiencies. It will open up the world of computing and allow huge swaths of people to communicate for the first time.
All without a brain implant!
David, i love what you said. Makes me inspired to work on that code.
Not sure what "huge swaths" of people can afford it at $3500 lol, but I think the internet allows huge swaths of people to communicate, at a significantly cheaper price
@@btchilluminti this is gen 1.
The price is huge something like that would be very very hard to afford for those people.
Can I just say - this genuinely seems like a breakthrough in communication technology for people with extremely limited mobility.
it will also break their wallets
It’s really not🫤…it’s a toy for the very wealthy.
Not if you don't have a thumb...
@@Droid-- i was thinking this 💀
This will ironically also make more people less and less mobile....Ready Player One here we come.
This will either be Apple’s biggest failure or it’ll eventually change how we use technology forever and seeing Apple’s track record, it’ll probably be the latter. So excited to see what’s next and also hoping to see the SE or Air Version of this for maybe $1599?
No matter how goofy something expensive looks, someone with too much money will buy it.
A cheaper model is rumored to be in development. I believe this first gen model is really only meant for developers and some rich people. I think this is the future and will go the path of the iPhone. It’s so exciting that this exists. It will encourage so many other companies to produce products like this.
always that one group of negative ppl that ruin a good thing...smh
This will fail just like VR has.
you realize other companies already have hmds? apple didnt invent shit....
I have just three things to teach: simplicity, patience, compassion. These three are your greatest treasures.
Yes, you nailed the creepy feeling. While the tech is undeniably cool, Apple's presentation of it being used in day-to-day life had some weird dehumanized undertones. The part showing dad filming the family literally gave me icky feelings. Thank you for another excellent product overview that provides context and analysis well beyond the "spec sheet rehash" that is so typical elsewhere.
THIS 😳
The Dads easy beard with the smoke filled room... Tells me Dad is a little obsessed with his new porn watching machine.
God I hate the word icky
Agreed. VR seems great for creating a very personal experience, but at the cost of isolation. Are we best suited for being plugged into the Matrix?
Except it will have an app platform and Apple doesn’t allow adult content on there.
I’ve watched several tech TH-camrs review of this, and yours is by far the best. You really do a good job describing the experience and what it would feel like to use it. It’s so easy to get caught in the hype and excitement, but you seem balanced while still clearly explaining what was exciting and standout. There was a lot of thought and introspection in how this came together
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Where from you
There's probably gonna be a negative comment here soon lmao
marques is well known to be under apples patronage
@@boneszy he was fairly balanced considering. I was expecting some hype for the butterfly or to explain how game changing 3d video would revolutionize how we capture memories, and he was spot on talking about how awkward it would be in practice. He compared them to existing VR and AR where Apple has a way of doing something that others are doing while acting like it’s totally unique. What Apple does is implement better, and the eye tracking is amazing, so not surprised he was a hyped about that
Was surprised how much of the content promoted was 2D instead of 3D or 6DOF. I hope they have TH-cam available on day one with 360 videos
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@@rshramik6550beat me to it
@@opinionated_take 6 degrees of freedom, i.e. stuff can rotate in all 3 axes and move around in all 3 axes
@@opinionated_take 6 Dimensional with Onlyfans included
@@opinionated_take 6DOF means in a nutshell - 6 Degrees of freedom - Basically how the element ( also you ) moves inside a 3D space is being tracked and fully used.
What we just saw is basically a person just sitting and doing something on a 2D flat screen just that the screen is projected in front of you through the headset. 6 DOF would be if the person would move in that space based on his headposition ( X Y axis and X, Z axis) and rotation.
Its complicated but I hope I could clarify it to you :x
Dude! Just wanted to say that I turn to you and "Jerry Rig Everything", for all tech related things. You're awesome bro 👊👊
For the 1st Gen, as a rational consumer, I think I just gonna wait and see for the next gen to see how it goes. Anyway, the demostration is freaking stunning. The Future is now, and it's really expensive lol...
Next generation gonna out in 10 years 😂
@@benzobenzobenzobenzo Noway, I think 4 years will be the longest product life that I can think of. IMO, 2 years for next gen.
Apple Pay’s huge for demo. It’s all marketing thing.
@@MB_speaking Anyway, the pricing is too high, and only one product. Because it's 1st gen, I don't think it's gonna be a big success. IMO it's just experimental.
@@modeagogo i really hope they hold those promises given in the WWDC. It was all CGI, but we will have to wait first.
It’s crazy how immersive and comprehensive his review is while keeping viewer attention. Good stuff!
That's what I was thinking. 14 min in and I was encapsulated by the video
you wanna kiss him?
@@whitedevil2 and?
@@nezzled let your imagination run wild, chief
@@whitedevil2 honestly just replied "and" because I had no context and I'm still confused
The potential for movie studios to work with Apple and make you feel like your actually in the movie would be absolutely insane
@SuperNostalgia. Is this the plot to the fantasy film you want to watch?
Yeah, the porn will be surreal
Name a single good movie made for apple tv+
@@Nemesiz00 Is there a plot to the porn film you want to watch?
Hopefully, they will never do this. VR movies, yes. Apple specific, hell no.
I'm a 90's kid and I remember a teacher showing us that you could change the color of the screen on a Macintosh II that used a floppy disk by using hot keys and it absolutely blew our minds. Now we've got headsets that work by pinching the air. I keep forgetting that there's been 40 years of advancement.
Just imagine this technology in another 10-15 years… absolutely insane what they’re able to accomplish now!!
You don't have to imagine, just watch Matrix and picture yourself in one of those pods.
@@FExpiate Luckily, that's not how the human brain works. The Matrix is scifi.
Knowing where we are headed, I don't expect much to change. Braindrain, worsening economies, billionaires destroying the middle-class, tin foil hatters having political power and putting us in a worse readiness for the next big deadly supervirus, psychopathic leaders looking for a reason to throw a nuke, and media in general pushing everyone to isolate more (maybe good reason like with all the public shootings in the US).
Companies are earning more but distributing less, technology is getting more complex and difficult to adopt, our netsec sectors are becoming less effective, and the reliability on mass produced products are creating huge problems since mass manufacturing quality is getting worse and worse everywhere. These big companies cannot keep up and manage producing for the demand without going to early AGI management systems that are still not reliable, and they are slowly pushing towards vacuuming up every penny of profit, pushing everyone under slave labor, and then leaving to go live in their Elysium-inspired fantasy land billionaire bubble.
@@FExpiate Do you base everything in your life off of fiction?
I like the direction we are headed. I can’t STAND all these humans everywhere I go. We are WAY too over populated. Since I don’t really use technology it’ll be nice when everyone is always in their homes on the couch in their own little worlds. Then I can go enjoy nature and the outside world and not have billions of savage ass humans everywhere I go. Selfish? Maybe. But since humans can’t seem to get their reproduction under control I’ll take this work around!
I need to see Marques wearing a Vision Pro and that Dyson mask at the same time
Straight out of Ready player one! 😁
This is starting to feel like we’re moving on to the next tech era. It’s exciting, looking forward to how this looks 6 years from now
You get it. That’s exactly what this. All the complainers will have one by gen 3. Remember when the watch first came out? Remember when the iPad first came out? Remember when the AirPods first came out? Now everyone has all these devices and want them like crack cocaine. The next 10 years is gonna be amazing for tech.
why 6 years? why not 5 or 7 ?
@@seanharris140 You really think this will be popular? I cant imagine ppl enjoying something this size glued to their eyeballs and most of the time on a cable.
@@MrArthys yeah, it's pretty much a vr headset without the need for controllers.
You only saying that because it’s Apple 😂
That 3D recording feature is wild, we're probably gonna see a lot of that in the future and it's gonna freak me out.
like braindances from cyberpunk lol
Black Mirror
As a tech lover, I’m super impressed and think the technology is amazing. As a human, I am afraid for our future.
And as a wallet, I’m afraid of the price tag.
Why?
It’s just a fking ar vr thing it’s nothing new for dooming human and stuff
@@asdfghjkl92213 Our phones already disconnect us from reality enough
@@asdfghjkl92213 Have you not seen how much life has changed since smartphones have become accessible for everyone?
The one thing that stood out for me after watching Apple's release video was that ridiculous use case of the dad recording a 3D video of his kids. I had the exact same reaction that Marques had: really? there's this precious moment unfolding right in front of you and you're choosing to experience it from behind an opaque plastic helmet? It's like how people pay hundreds of dollars to go to a concert and choose to view it through their smartphone display, only worse.
Is it much worse than Dad having a giant camcorder or film recorder on his shoulder sticking out 2 feet?
That's pretty normal for most peoples childhoods though, Id assume. Weather its a camcorder, headset, phone, etc, there's usually always one parent (typically the father) in the back filming everything, so they have a memory they can look back on later, at school plays, birthdays, etc.
I'm actually shocked people find that strange.
@@BattleBladeWarriorPeople just like to complain about new stuff
Some people have spent their entire childhood being filmed by their parents in a way of another, nowadays they're even being posted online without their consent, so this headset in particular doesn't look like such a big deal in comparison
Y’all complain about anything
There’s a reason Marques is at the top of this game. His enthusiasm is contagious. He’s so genuine.
The glazing and ball gargling is crazy
@@danceyrselfkleen why are you ball gargling fam
@@danceyrselfkleen L
@@danceyrselfkleen I agree. It's actually pathetic.
This guy reviews dope bleeding edge tech for a living. To have him this impressed, this thing must be the future.
Happy happy to see you !!! ❤️🙏🏻 love you so big & love all about Apple ❤️🙏🏻
This might offer very interesting possibilities for people like me with special sensory needs.
lol
That's a good point, my brother has become limited in a lot of what he can do but this might be something that can help. When/if becomes cheaper.
Technology is really cool
It's pretty cool! I wonder if it can explain the american economy right now though...
might help you stop masturbating so much,
I just realized after finishing the video that 95 percent of the video there was no background music. I just think it proves that your explanation and analysis are very well explained and that it doesn't need music to make the video " better ".
I don't know why would say such a thing. Music almost always make explanations worse in my experience.
NO@@magnetospin
I realized that while reading the comment. 😅
Tell me you’re a 13 year old tik tok kid without telling me that you watch subway surfers under every video
I completely sabotaged the approach by accident by playing music parallel from before I started the video and I found it very fitting until the end.
😅
My biggest question was about how multiple Vision Pro devices will interact with each other. What happens when two of these are together in the same room? Can you work on the same project together, in the same space? Can you have a 3D model of your friend sit on the couch next to you and watch the same movie together? How about when they're apart--can there be a scenario where you go to your friend's room across the country, you see each other, like in VRChat, and you can sit and have a conversation?
Looks like a worse hololens?
Let me answer all of those, No probably not
Man! I really like the examples you gave. That would definitely be a plus!
One step at a time buddy, first the device needs to work on its own.
Woah, that's a cool idea
Finishing every video with "Thanks for watching" very grateful and very humble of you. It has been a pleasure to take take in your knowledge and information and thanks for that. Many of us will make a buying decision based on the unbaised info you provide here and we number in the millions.
This guy might be the best product reviewer in the game. Once again, he killed it with his review.
Might be? He 100% is
Yes, he's a corporate asset.
For sure 100%. Anytime I have a question about a device I check his review and does not disappoint
what if u wear glasses
@@randomrazr then you probably lucky to keep your sanity. Like there's not enough living your life in the digital devices these days.
Apple was smart to let you test the Vision Pro. You communicate so well buddy.
bud
*Do u all use* -mabooks- ?
they didnt let him test one. Based on the ad and the release event, he made this video
@@biswajit07 he literally said he used it 10 seconds into the video
Of course they did. He had 30mins, that‘ exactly what he said.
What an insane piece of tech. Curious to see how much this is going to evolve in the next 10 years. 📱
Yep
Yea
Less and less people gonna buy it
Get smaller more powerful more gesture. more complex system.
@@9ico nope
M3 version will be the one to get whenever it comes. If it has hardware accelerated raytracing like 15 pro it will look absolutely phenomenal. Unreal engine will also work on vision pro, we are in for some truly amazing time in tech.
I think M4 rather than M3, but who knows
You did a far better job at selling it than Apple did at the keynote. Love how you had Mark to guest star for this.
Mark will cry :c
mark's a lil beta bish
mark's a lil meta bish
Giving Ready Player One vibes.
I think the key thing about the "two-way passthrough" creepy eyes is that, despite its uncanny valley potential, it very clearly communicates to *other people* that you can see them.
It intuitively communicates that, despite the fact that i'm wearing a headset, im still able to have a conversation with you. With any other VR headset, having the headset on is basically saying "dont talk to me"
It doesn't completely solve the VR isolation problem, but I can see it making a huge difference for using the headset at home or around others, even if it's kinda weird at first.
Thats very true! Especially if it actually updates your expression so if you raise/lower your brows, it matches that.
I low key like the 'not now chief, I'm in the zone' aspect of my quest 😅
What?
But the problem is its such a complicated solution when the easiest solution is to just remove the head set.
Also, i have a feeling most people are gonna ask to person to remove it when talking to them. Its feels like its equivalent to a person hold a phone to the ear and saying "don't worry, I'm listening to you"
Wish it was anything but eyes, lol. Make it cartoon pixely cute robot eyes, not that.
“Foundational to Apple Vision is that you’re not isolated from other people, they can see you and you can see them”
Feels like a dig on what Meta was trying to achieve with the Metaverse 😂
Metaverse, but with actual people 🤯
i don't want to see them
Lmao, they are using the device to solve a problem , the device creates
go outside and touch grass
@@maxdenusenko8989 💀💀💀
It was my first concern... They are just addressing people's discomfort with being 'disconnected' from reality but deceiving consumers into normalizing this product. Not a dig at metaverse, more addressing a massive backlash that meta received because it was a problem for their product offering
I would love to get this for my disabled cousin when it comes out. I don't even mind the price tag (anything for people with disabilities is expensive unfortunately). He uses Apple's ecosystem because they have great accessibility options for someone one-armed and partially deaf like him. This would make his life just that more convenient.
Wow, that battery life is a deal breaker isn't it? Am I right in thinking that the headset has zero battery at all - you would have to put the device to sleep in order to swap out the battery? Curious to see if Apple would offer a 'power bundle' with two extra battery packs for an extra $500 - and that propriatary cable, good old Apple. Alternatively, everyone's going to be buying 20ft USB-C cables and creating trip hazards everywhere...
...Oh wait, the deal breaker is $3499 isn't it?
if you know anything about these kinda headsets, this is way cheaper than expected. There are PC VR headset with way less tech selling for 2-3k... This is a lovely push in the MR/VR/AR industry! Features we see here have been wanted for the last 10 years in the VR community. Trust me, I've been in VR since the Oculus Developer Kit 1 in 2013 I was 12 at the time The future is looking sweet for this tech! I may not get Apples headset, but now companies will want to compete and bring us an equivalent experience for a cheaper price, that is the bigger picture for us consumers!
Chad vidIQ
They should have a power cord for watchibg movies
“Supple” cable 😂😂😂
oh no, a fanboi is upset lol I paid over 2k for my very first pair that were complete junk 6 months they released a better version cheaper. You cry about the battery pack which the headset does much more and better than any other headset on the market so ya it's going to be pricy. You should be happy cause this will only make other companies that do VR step up their game and make something better.
As kids we all joked about this happening, now it’s actually happening. This is next level futuristic type stuff. Kinda surreal when you think about it.
funny, how does technology is going to be outdated in just 10 years
My thoughts exactly
You are not alone, I bet if I’m gonna joke around today that we’re going to have a sunglass similar to this, I’ll be speechless one day
Crazy enough this maybe the "norm" in the future, something about it feels like maybe what everyone maybe using.
I used to be kids and always told my dad 😂😂
This is the kind of product that gets me so hyped up. Not just because it's super innovative but because you can tell the designers and engineers at Apple have worked extremely hard to package an insane amount of hardware into such a compact and elegant device. Directional audio, extremely high resolution visuals, eye tracking, an intuitive hand-based interface?!! It's so impressive that they pulled this off and innovated well beyond what their competitors have done. Kudos to the team at Apple that made this happen - super inspiring work.
Found the apple fan boy
@@deitrickorullian505 nah I'm an android user hahaha but I am a huge design geek
sounds like the holosense 2
Yeah, it's crazy that they let employees waste time and money on something that no one will buy.
@@Mquin02 hater alert 🚨🚨
While I was never bothered by the battery pack, It's grown on me to the point where I really like it. The cord reminds me of the classic earbuds look, and personally it feels kind of fashionable. I hope they keep this design choice; the less weight in the headset the better!
Battery on your head like the quest is terrible. Not just heavy for neck pain but the heat from battery is insane. Looking forward to this solution.
lol
But the 2hour battery backup is a downside
Gotta plug the headset to watch a full movie
Now you point it out, it is actually pretty horrible to see the dad there - wearing the pro vision goggle ski-wear - recording the birthday cake part and his family not being able to see his face properly. There is always the risk with tech, where in an attempt to 'connect', it can actually get in the way and disconnect, creating an unnecessary block to experiencing real life in the present moment.
I am sure the next iPhone will include stereoscopic lenses to allow you to record 3D video/pics for viewing in Apple's newest headset. It will be another way to diffentiate it from this year's model.
That’s where our society is headed. Even when phones came, before that, people used to just eat when the food arrived as opposed to now, photoshoot for the dish.
We are in 2023. We live online. Reality is secondary. The digital content matters more and lasts longer.
I think you’re overthinking this too much 🤣🤣
they should make the outer screen customizable so you can put like googly eyes on the outside display so people will laugh when they look at you. or maybe something like pit viper sunglasses could be displayed on the front for that cheesy scifi look.
This is one of those technologies where I’m not sure if I should be excited or terrified.
I think it’s the ai we should be afraid of
Why should you be afraid? It's just VR, be afraid of AI
Both.
You shouldn't be either, it's pointless
I am more afraid of the price
I was really impressed. Definitely not getting the first generation unit but I’m looking forward to see how it develops.
$20 this will be the first and only one when nobody buys this
I'll get the Chinese knockoff, I guess.
@@Needler13 I guess 20 is easy enough to lose...lol
Just watched your old vid from 9 months ago. Glad you jumped on this sooo quickly.
I hope so too..
That 3D recording feature is wild, we are gonna see a lot of that in the future and it’s gonna freak me out
The Lume Pad 2 already has this capability for taking 3-D pictures and making 3-D videos, as well as displaying such content.
It's an isolating product that further removes us from in person contact. It appears you would get an incredibly immersive experience, but it would be just for you. My thought is, if you had an incredible experience, you would want to share that with others. That's why big screen tvs are so popular. Bottom line, I don't see the point of further isolating ourselves for self pleasure.
Well, it’s a wet dream for home office / online meeting fans.
@@bingobongo1615 There are many other options that are free
Have you been around people as of late!? They are absolutely terrible
@@efaciler2462 That may be true in larges numbers - yes, but we have to continue to try to reach out to others. Fews problems are solved by deploying silence and inaction.
I feel like the best part of apple releasing a VR headset is it's gonna lead to much higher software support to all VR devices, Apple is great at popularizing certain tech and I feel like more componys are actually going to put the time in to develop more software. The quests biggest problem is the extremely lackluster appstore with really high prices (understandably, VR apps and games are expensive to develop for right now).
Yeah... at 3500$ dont expect many developers to jump on that bandwagon. Price alone makes it unatracctive to a lot of potentional apps, that need masses of users to be useful.
Ya good luck with apple not locking this down.
@@alexejvornoskov6580 It's actually extremely attractive, it's a new niche, that's created by apple.
@@anushgopalakrishnan its not created by apple 😂
@@Wxrldend It is wdym
Not gonna lie, I'm super impressed on how they are delivering this technology. I wish the price was in a lower price point, but I understand why it's expensive.
For one it's not Meta, so it's not subsidized by some ad and data-selling business. And it also has the same chip that powers their Macs, plus a new R1 chip. And on top of that, it's a completely new device from Apple so there's the newness + Apple tax. So I ALMOST can feel the price tag is justified. I think $2500 would've been much more fair.
Looks like they copied the quest pro, slapped on micro oled and a screen on front to charge and extra 2k
I’m not impressed most of it was a lot of 2D floating screens
@@tyronelannister9922 quest pro is a kid's toy compared to this, u can't compare the two common now
A completely whole new entire construction of next-generation interface into system. brilliant. if this goes into success well-integrated into our used daily "applications", to the future AI "applications", and much affordable than this one, it's would be a shock, like a ago, the IPhone entering into the information exchange method of society.
like elonmusk saying, a new system into classical applications and spaces, making a step forward to it's form of information exchanging, yeah not literally breathtaking yet but if successfully integrated, it will be such brilliant breakthrough.
SUPERB Review, as Always…There is NO ONE AS GOOD AS YOU on the net for the most comprehensive and user friendly reviews! ❤️from Montreal
Thank you Marques for always getting the tech instantly and leaving the highest quality review. Subbed since 2015 :)
Agree!!!
The JIO effect
Agree on the high quality but not a review of course
@@PointVisionHD yea I kinda meant overview
This is the first channel I ever subscribed to on TH-cam
I’m excited to see a 5th or 6th gen of this slimmed down and refined. It’s got me feeling like the early 2010s smartphone innovations
yeah crazy to see smartphones from early 2010s to now! I wonder what the vr/ar even the ai will be like in the 2030s, also to consider the more and more companies pursuing this technological advancements compared to 10+ years ago.
If you haven't owned VR yet, you can get Oculus quest 2 for like $300. Its very similar technology for a fraction of the price and still gonna wow most people when they try it for the first time.
@Overshot it will wow you and then you'll put it in a closet to gather dust because there's definitly not enough things to enjoy with vr. The only thing I might enjoy is resident evil and that isn't enough
@@overshot8331 if it has similarities to the oculus then why does the oculus cost $300 ?
@@ismo9529 I use my quest almost daily
I actually think the strategy to start with an extremely premium product will work out here. First priority is to make the most perfect VR/AR experience imaginable, and once that's done, worry about getting costs down and getting it to the masses. Everyone else is working the problem in the other direction and it's not really working.
But do people want this? We had the same with 3D Television. First models where highly expensive, the budget line later had a very short hype, but in the end nobody used it and short after it was abandoned from newer tv sets again. I think it's the same about VR/AR. It's just inconvenient in daily life and at work places, and does not offer anything that is better than what the current technology gives you. In the end, it's only a screen glued to your eyes and software that you already use on your "ancient" computer. And i doubt people will want to deal with the pain that you get when you even move less than already. Just using your eyes and fingers will weaken your body and that causes pain, what will make people keep distance from these items. Life is so much more than IT Nerds with unlimited money believe it is. Money aside, the nerds are just nerds, observing life, but not understanding, nor truly living it.
@@lars5288 3D TVs did not produce a new experience compared to regular 2D TVs but VR gaming produces a experience that is far different from 2D gaming
@@lars5288That’s the point of this headset. To bring new experiences to the masses. This first gen product won’t do that. It’s lineage will. This is simply a proof of concept. People said the same thing about early smartphones. Those were for nerds too. Now? Everyone has one. This could be different, but time will tell. Keep an open mind.
Agree completely. Start by showing what’s possible and then give options that take features off the list, all still grounded in the initial premium product so it feels like you’re getting a deal when you’re buying the cheaper model (which will still be a hefty chunk of change). Besides, people are used to Apple stuff being very expensive. It’s a proven part of their brand and business strategy. You won’t see an Apple product in the bargain bin.
yeah, if the rolled it out with zero content like allot of VR/Ar hardware that's when it wont matter. I feel like VR movies aren't going to land it, but live sports yes. Still who and what for.
This is the first video I've watched of Marcus, and i have to say your attention to the details of every product you review and the time you spend analysing every aspect is impressive - you earned another Subscriber 👍🏾
Yeah. his attention to detail is so good. Doesn't hurt that his voice is smooth like NPR.
@@meridianspodcast Haha, yes
great to know. Now , who’s this marcus guy ? i only heard about marques🤔 LOL
Very cool. First piece of tech I've ever seen where Marques has been truly shocked, in a good way.
He was more shocked at Google Starline. That video was only 2 weeks ago lol
@@iamwowed well what do you expect from an ifan? 😂😂😂
Yeah I didn't expect him to be so impressed with it lol, I'm curious how it turns out.
If a company can find a way to fit this tech into something only slightly larger than a regular pair of glasses then I could see this tech becoming the next mandatory piece of tech like smartphones did
There is a pair of glasses that do augmented reality or like a monitor but can’t remember the name
That “find a way“ is not going to happen on anyone’s first-generation product. You gotta start somewhere. Year by year, this will gradually evolve into that over 10-15 years.
@@timscoviac google glass
It will naturally evolve into just that, give it 5-10 years
Yeah this totally feels like the big brick with an antenna phase of phones
Best MKBHD video in a whole. Marcques’ face was lit up while taking about it. It was really the passion for tech shining through which has been missing with non innovating phones. He was honest, brutal and thoughtful. Loved it
He's just an Apple fanboy
@@paooobaYou’re just an Apple hater
MKBHD in hindi also mean Ma Ka Bhosda.
when got paid by thousands of dollars from apple to do sponsored content bit as a tech masterpiece and seeing people like you falling to the bait he went for lighten up my face too. typical lol
@@paoooba he is the most unbiased tech reviewer in TH-cam tbh unlike iJustine which loves everything Apple regardless so much so she even got excited unboxing the overpriced Apple microfiber cleaning cloth 😂
Well honestly, first time I listen to one of your video. Clear, sharp, interesting, relevant, great job! Only thing... no need to ask to subscribe... as this should come naturally from just watching high quality content like yours. So I subscribed ;)
5 years down the line, we might have normal glasses with a lot more features and a lot more cheaper , the pace we are progressing is impressive.
5 years is probably way to short, since We don’t have clear enough screens for people to want to wear them at all times.
Maybe 10 more likely 15 but even more likely never, because google glass had huge push back. And so did the ray bans
Moores law
Nah, this Sort of Innovation is pointless. Facing climate change we will have to start de-growth of the Economy and private companies like apple
It has its pitfalls right now but it really excites me as to what the tech will be like in 5-10 years. Apple entering VR/AR could really do stuff to this market
all they will do is have crap tech and more expensive than its rivals, only the apple zombies will be into this.
@@dropsey3007 it must really burn your ass that the iPhone outsells and out-benchmarks your cheap plastic android phone lol
@sfdntk Galaxy is s23 is now cheap 💀. Apple definitely outbenchmark the snap 8 gen 2 either 🤡
@@dropsey3007 are you happy going around hating anyone that is praising Apple for some of their products?,fanboys like you honestly needs to go out sometimes because it is honestly embarrassing and sad that some people act like you
@@sfdntk I would rather pay 1/5 of the price for 1/1 of the functionality, lmao.
So now my main question is can you sync up to other Vision Pros? Say you want to watch a movie together. This would also be genius for watching movies with people not there with you.
Interesting. I’m sure SharePlay will be implemented at some point.
Well I guess it’s purely software so they can add it whenever they want(if it isn’t already there)
That's what a TV is for
The movies are 3450 cheaper lol
@@artifishul I bet you’re an android user
The part that is most appealing to me is that if you're on a flight or something, you can just block everyone out of your vision. That would be great for anyone who get uncomfortable around tons of people.
To me, this felt like the initial Apple Watch reveal. They gave it so many options of what it CAN be, then after a few years, they found out that people used it primarily for fitness and focused on that
Edit: looking back at that keynote, there were features like glances, Digital Touch, those weird animated emojis, Force Touch etc that they kinda just threw out in the presentation like “hey, here’s an idea” then got rid of those features a few years later when no one used them
So... Porn then.
it is not for fitness though..
Yeah. Focused on Gaming for this one lol
@@jegbryrmegikke1 lmao imagine tho
I'm curious who their customer-base for this is going to end up being for them to be able to do that. I want this to succeed but the price, which I do think is likely appropriate for what it is, is going to limit its audience obviously.
The Pro part of it was what hit me and I've only seen MKBHD actually say the same thing. It seems obvious they'll release an SE or lower end eventually once their manufacturing costs or whatever get lesser and build gets more refined. In v3 or so. The future is exciting. That's what got me excited about this product. Not like it's perfect. But the promise of what this will push others to do as well
The SE version without computing power (only basic notifications etc.) focused on content in conjunction with an Apple TV + remote, could be an idea. 100" TV with spacial audio.....
@@reneehlert741 hell yeah, forget all computing and conections features I want to consume multimedia :D
The problem is there won’t be a next one if people don’t buy it. That’s the problem
I don’t think we need to worry about no one buying it. There are tons of early adopter types with money to burn who can’t wait to get their hands on this, and Apple knows it.
I don’t think I would be in their target audience but man this tech is absolutely surreal, one of the biggest leaps forward with AR!
You will eventually get sucked in
This tech is sht. Gonna make morons even more addictive.
I mean, the finger clicking and window browsing stuff is used almost the same in the Hololens for almost 10 years now.
Hololens doesn't have eye tracking, you have to reach to the 3D Position of the window you wanna click in or use a pointer. So it's just the eye tracking from Sony's Playstation VR2 that makes it so you can click wherever you look
i'm not sure what part of it seems like a leap to you :'D
Nothing in that box is new in any way
@@Rocknoob49 apple fans have been dying off, only the most hardcore remain. Unfortunately this is the hill they will die on.
Excellent review as usual Marcus. Thank you.
I have a 6th grade student with ALD that reads lips to understand what people are saying in class. We have a voice to text app on an iPad, but I'd love to see integrated captioning, with the AR, so he could still focus on the speaker without looking away to read the iPad. What I see here are possibilities! Love it Thanks for sharing.-Mark
For some reason I genuinely love how the battery is on a chord… it makes it seem retro… and it WILL look pretty retro in 10 years when the design has been improved. It looks like some old obscure gaming system
Yehhhh💓🙏🙏🙏
The 2 hour battery life is easier to swallow when you realize you can just... swap the battery packs.
Bluetooth battery next
@@Patman128 true, similar to console controllers, imagine have like 2-3 battery packs charging at all times, then when it's about to die you just switch them out. Sounds so much more easier than having to recharge the whole headset.
Man, people will suck off apple at every opportunity they get
I can see this being cool with a keyboard paired to it - allowing you to work as if you're on multiple large monitors while travelling on a plane for example. Would love to see it natively able to run CAD design software, and then view your work in a very convincing 3D VR environment.
You can literally do all of that today with Meta Quest for $300 (including the hand tracking)
@@jegorius Thanks - will look into it. I thought the quests needed the remotes in your hands?
@@LaurieMB Nah you get controllers included but it has hand tracking and you 👌 to select and scroll and you can pair physical keyboards and use voice commands
Who the fuck work on a airplane bro just rest and then work with your laptop. Do you think you are gonna become like robot in productivity just by wearing a scam vr with some cool 4k advertisement. I dont see any good in these augmented reality stuff, it will just damage our society more than it is already damaged. If you just ask yourself the reason why switching from phone and pc to these vr you will realize that it just encourage lazyness
@@jegorius what about battery life?
such a pleasure to watch this guy talk!
Pretty impressed for a Gen 1. I remember the first Apple Watch and how far they’ve come with the Ultra. This Apple Vision Pro in its 4 or 5th generation is going to be insane.
si infatti Insane è un aggettivo azzecched.
Typical Garbage from apple lacks innovation and just copying the competition. Just focus on iphone guys.
It won't survive that long the price and the fact that it's strapped to your face will prevent wide adoption people don't like shit on their faces
please all boycott this product.. the pricing is just ridiculous as hell
Still can't play games lol good ol apple products.
I’m happy you said the thing about the 3D recordings. That’s spot on. Apple is marketing this as a product that assists in connecting to those around you but the idea of that dad having the headset on was just straight up depressing.
Yeah, because everyone at those kind of events totally isn't waving a phone in front of their eyes anyway. There's plenty of criticisms to leverage against this thing, but firstly why would you even need to wear it to record, and secondly the "it's bad for our face-to-face relationships" ship has long since sailed.
@@tahunuva4254 why wouldn’t you need to wear it to record? Also, it’s much easier to record things with your phone and still have your own vision unmediated. Also… has it sailed? I don’t think that’s true. My comments (and the video’s comments) on the sad nature of the 3d photo function are a shared sentiment right now which evidences the fact that it most certainly has not sailed.
@@skylergerald3546 Burden of proof is on you. If you think there's a reason you'd have to be wearing it, instead of holding it like any regular camera, then don't play coy, state it.
@@skylergerald3546 Im sorry but I gotta agree with Tahu here. I've seen people recording and faces planted into their iphones and ipads during big celebrations like a birthday party and they are essentially watching the whole thing through their screens. At least one you won't be as focused on getting everything in the frame and people will be able to see your eyes. It's the same if not better than it is now.
@@RedNuii I mean, I’m all for just not recording things at all and being tech free in experiencing life. Best practice perhaps is being smartphone free and just living your life in moments like these. Either way… it just seems to me that wearing a bulky headset seems moreso on the “removed from the moment” end of the spectrum imo
I feel like this is the push VR needed. Apple feels like it will take it to that next level by making the other companies bring new improvements to compete with them
Edit to the angry people:
A lot of you seem mad at the price but this isn’t aimed to be some kids birthday gift like the oculus quest (unless they rich) this wants to be something greater something revolutionary. When VR is perfected (still some years away) it will change the way we access the internet.
Plus oculus quest is just VR if I’m correct Apple is making a VR/AR mixture headset. The only other AR headset I’m aware of is the Microsoft Holo2 and I believe it’s priced at the exact same price.
The quest pro seems like more of a budget version and it’s what I would end up getting until I’d see these headsets reach a settling point
Oh ok, Android pushed it to the limit where it is right now, now Apple revamps an already existing tech becomes the talk of the town.
@@csouvik21 apple sheep would buy a turd if it had apples logo on it
@@csouvik21 Marques just said that it’s the best VR that he ever used, why are you still wondering.
Really? At 3500 gs?
Let’s be honest, the rest of the market will follow suite like they did with the smartphone. I’m unsurprisingly surprised it took this long to make this reality but it’s true about what they say about Apple, they won’t bring a product to market until they can bring the best to the table. Still a bit disheartened it isn’t more streamlined like google glass.
Being able to walk around child hood homes and have memories of it would be amazing. Also real-estate, being able to do a house tour in vr before you even go to the property would be cool. They have some of that but it’s on a 2d screen or not very main stream.
I cant afford it and I'm also not a huge Apple fan though I can appreciate how good some of their tech is, especially UI/UX. But this is the first product in a really long time that actually made me excited. Not exactly because of this specific device, I'm sure it comes with loads of little problems that need to be solved before it is convenient without major drawbacks. I'm mostly excited because this is the first presentation of this AR/VR tech where everything is coherent and neatly integrated and I can tell how this will eventually be part of daily life and provide a cohesive experience. Depending on how they go about some aspects of it, I can definitely see myself dropping my smartphone/laptop in favor of this for most things that I do with them (e.g. browsing, reading, watching videos, videocalls). Only real exceptions would be coding for which I need a proper keyboard and messaging/navigation with my phone while on the road. Both can be done on significantly cheaper non-apple devices.
Yeah I really hope they allow us to connect an external keyboard/mouse for that office use situation 😅
In the keynote they showed someone using a physical KB/Mouse with it! So that's definitely a use case they've thought of.
Also, I saw a comment of someone earlier about that there needs to be apple pencil support, I think that would be a great tool for it.
@@humbleindian6303 I don't like apple, but you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about buddy, better stay silent lmao. Humble my ass.
Just wait for huawei or xiaomi come out with something similar for half the price
If Apple can build that 3D video memory feature into iPhones and iPads, meaning you can record the videos with a handheld device and then use the headset just for viewing, that could really be an amazing feature. Seems pretty easy to just add a 4th twin camera to the iPhone if you ask me.
Edit: CALLED IT BOYS
not really, the cameras would have to be spaced eye width apart.
The iphone 16 maybe
The cameras would have to be eye-width apart, and all the camera shake and quick movements from your hand would be nauseating. That's an awful idea.
Every iPhone and new iPad sold today has LIDAR sensors on the back for this exact purpose. Of course you can record 3D video.
Stage Manager on Mac? Suddenly makes sense considering the ability to switch windows will be easier using Vision Pro.
Apple has building towards this product for YEARS. For most people the LIDAR sensor was never used and Apple didn’t include it to just look at shitty 3D props on a coffee table. They can use the sensor information to combine all two/three existing cameras to render the 3D video.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we see this. Most (all?) iPhones are physically large enough to have the right interocular distance between lenses, and with the same image stabilization that we get on our iPhone videos now, you wouldn’t have to worry about excessive shake.
Agreed about the "wearing the headset to take 3d videos" thing. I wouldn't be surprised if future iPhone's camera setup will be used to take stereoscopic videos/images that can then be played on the headset!
Yeah, that looked depressing as fuck. On a phone tho? Sure, could be cool in its own right
Technically the iPhone already takes photos and videos with a depth map attached. You could look at Portrait mode photos in 3D already
@@OnIcePerspectives oh yeah good point
@@OnIcePerspectives Oh wow never knew that. I have a 12 mini so that's probably why, don't have the crazy camera stuff
Do you remember when wireless earbuds were weird? It used to look like people were talking to themselves or talking to you, when they weren’t? New tech ALWAYS SEEMS WEIRD till it is submerged into the day to day.
As much as it’s a complete product, it’s not necessarily a finished product. Generation 0 and 1 products especially in tech are pretty much always a test to see what works and what doesn’t too improve on in the future. I think as people use the vision pro and as data is gathered Apple will improve on it, and then reduce the price, maybe slim it down a bit, have it weigh less, more features etc
Yeah. I cant see any practical application for this right now, especially one thats worth 3500$. But as VR and AR progress past being just for gaming and begin being incorporated more and more into our daily lives, I can see these eventually becoming standard household items in the way laptops or TVs are now.
As a VR enthusiast starting with the Vive in 2017, I'm a bit lukewarm on the headset itself but excited to see tech giants making major investments to advance the AR/VR space.
watch the disney apple vr video. i thought it was nothing new, until I considered disney and the implications for vr
Same here. Still got my original HTC vive. I am not into apple ecosystem but it is a huge moment for AR/VR or "spacial computing".
Apple hardly mentioned VR. It was much more about business-related AR. Seems like mixed messages from Apple.
I'm less than lukewarm on this dogshit, no controller option (YET lol it's apple were talking about) I could buy myself and 4 friends a valve index for this price! Why are people calling this revolutionary? Where is the other $2500 going, the outside oled display you can't even see while wearing?
@@TheKevphil I’d say 80-90% of the keynote focused on content consumption & family moments, only a small mention of productivity using offices in multi-screen environment, which makes the price tag bizarre… like how many average consumer is going to spend $3.5k to even try it? Even as someone who owns 10+ VR/AR glasses since 2017 and probably spent $10k on it total (custom built PC included) on VR/AR, I had an “oof” moment when I saw the price tag. Physical Apple store can do the convincing through demo but even then, the target audience is really small.
I kind of agree about the camera dad thing being weird, except that it’s already been affecting kids’ memories of foundational years - I remember my dad “hiding” behind a camcorder (as it felt to me), where recording it was more important than experiencing it. And that wasn’t new for VHS either… so I dunno. It’s not exactly great to make it even worse, but it’s not creating a whole new problem.
Good point. I also think people are too focused on how 'silly' the goggles look.The best usecases will be dedicated VR: training, simulations, games, virtual meetings (situations where you're fully immersed and not concerned about how you look with the headset on). And that's why it's not an amazing breakthrough, because many companies are already working on VR systems. Apple is not the first-mover in this space and competition will be stiff.
True. Just look at sporting events today...everyone watching it through a screen instead of actually living it.
Everyone lives their lives through the viewfinder on their phone during memorable moments. Just enjoy your moment and stop worrying about sharing it with everyone else. Couldn't agree more with your comment.
so if someone records a video in 3d, with the headset, you could be walking around inside that video?
@@GusFromDaysPast But we shouldn't live our lives through a viewfinder - and scientific studies show how badly that kind of thing is really affecting our connections with others. The most important and meaningful events of our lives are becoming disconnected.
How well you articulated it. Didn't skip a minute. Great work, MKBHD.
That’s why he has 17M subs. Dude is a genius in his own right. And built his own success.
If the VR headset can read the hand signs correctly there are so many possibilities for the gaming industry. Along with that wirelessly connecting your headset to the PC is a must. This could improve it's possibilities so much.
only macs